New conditions related to Kosovo "impossible"

as I suspected Zoran, you most probably lose yourself in pointless fairy tales about Serbian knights and most likely believe nonsense like how the honorable Serb stood up to the Turkish yoke and defended the rest of Europe from Islamic tyranny. sunshine, come to Prishtina and see how much of it is Serbia :-) in the meantime carry on reading garbage sites like slobodan-milosevic.org or other 1389 nonsense. oh and do not stop believing that the break up of Yugoslavia was a German conspiracy, it sure as hell helps you from facing the horrid truth as well as the obvious one, that your people killed that entity to begin with. Živela eh?

It seems Germany has finally shown its ugly head as the architect of the destruction of Yugoslavia. We've been there before and we will smile and nod during occupation but it will all come to an end and the end is in sight. The NATO death machine has made a complete mess of this world and people are beginning to stand up. The Chinese to the Japanese, the Arabs to the US and Serbs to NATO.

Here is a clear message to my dear K*-Albanians, Germans and so on. This is from the people, not the politicians. Oj Kosovo, Kosovo...what a beautiful song! Check -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wtuUnCSvcE

The problem as I see it is that before a date for talks can be given the EU will want to know the borders of the country with which they will be talking. If 22 countries believe that a Serbian application for membership does not include Kosovo and 5 believe that it does then the issue is with the EU not Serbia; Serbia has one clear position, certainly within government, whereas the EU does not. All talk of contractual arrangements misses this point and the speaker and his German colleagues would be better off addressing the above issue within the EU before imposing conditions on Serbia.
(ned taylor, 14 September 2012 11:18)

And Serbia needs the support of the 22 EU member states who recognise Kosovo, for Serbia to enter the EU. Every single member has to ratify Serbia's membership and they can say that they won't ratify Serbia's membership until Serbia recognises Kosovo. So in other words Sod the 5 who don't recognise Kosovo.

And how long do you think it'll be before 5 becomes 4? Then 4 becomes 3 and so on.

Germany needs to remember what happened the last two times it tried to bully Serbia...

(ned taylor, 14 September 2012 11:18)
Got news for you ned, shame you did not know it. Everything Serbia has done to date to enter the EU, has been sans Kosovo. It is not included in any agreement to date. Your visa liberalization, your SAA, all talks do not in any way reference a claim on Kosovo.
Serbia without Kosovo is not a new concept.

@ Zoran

Stop blaming Germany(western world) for serbia's failure in the past. Germany didn't tell milosevic to say that back in 1989 in Gazimestan and start all the mess OK. Serbia itself is a failed state and Germany's 7 EU conditions for Serbia are the death sentence:)

All these brave Serbian here seems to learn from our dictator Hoxha that said that Albania can defend itself both by NATO and Warsaw Treaty. Fortunately, it is a past time for Albania.

here we go again fight, combat etc

Ian, Serbs voted out the "no alternative to EU" sellouts. In other words, the desire to join the EU is diminishing, which is also shown in surveys (less than 50% I believe). So basically, you can keep your rotten EU carrot, it stinks!

The way things are going in the EU, it looks like you'll be getting a few extra members for free. It's called the "Kosova"* precedent. You know, EU members Catalonia, Scotland, Wales....

But at the end of the day, no Serbia in EU = no "Kosova"* in the EU. Your problem here is that K*-Albanians have a strong desire to join, not the Serbs.

Živela eh?
(Nikolle, 14 September 2012 12:16)
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Oh Nikolle, I know you love my videos. Here are a few more for you. A good sign of what's to come.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GHfJzqlz54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYbVKxShJ5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyj5jdxn56I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZDS0cBMRhw

You should know that Germany always messes up Europe whenever it takes the helm... This time (the last one) is no different.

The problem as I see it is that before a date for talks can be given the EU will want to know the borders of the country with which they will be talking. If 22 countries believe that a Serbian application for membership does not include Kosovo and 5 believe that it does then the issue is with the EU not Serbia; Serbia has one clear position, certainly within government, whereas the EU does not. All talk of contractual arrangements misses this point and the speaker and his German colleagues would be better off addressing the above issue within the EU before imposing conditions on Serbia.

And how long do you think it'll be before 5 becomes 4? Then 4 becomes 3 and so on.
(Ian, UK, 14 September 2012 12:33)

You need therapy, you seem to care more for Serbs and Serbia than Albanians do and that is saying a lot. Again what a large portion of Serbs (dare I say majority) think is to hell with the EU. If Greece, Bulgaria and Romania are not enjoying life in the EU then why would Serbia. We should never join the EU even if Kosovo i Metohija was not an issue much less now.

(ned taylor, 14 September 2012 14:15)

You're correct about unanimity, all 27 (soon to be 28) members have to agree to Serbia's membership aka there has to be unanimity. And certain members will only agree to Serbia's membership once Serbia does what they want, ie recognise Kosovo. So there won't be unanimity for Serbia's membership until Serbia recognises Kosovo.

Was there unanimity when France vetoed the UK's membership? Was there unamity when Morroco's membership was blocked? Unanimity isn't needed to block (what you call 'stall') memberhip.

Yes the current government in Belgrade thinks it is choosing Kosovo before the EU. But Serbia has two options. 1) Have EU membership and not have Kosovo. 2) Not have EU membership and not have Kosovo. That is reality.

@ Zoran Everyone in Scotland and Wales are really really jealous of Kosovo and everyone knows Nikolic and co are EU badgers chasing the EU's carrot; now go back to your silly Youtube videos.

@ Zoran, thank you for those videos. Now i know for a fact that you got issues. I truly hope that you are young and that you have a long and helthy life because i want you to be present and see that Kosova will never again be under serbian authority and by the time you get old just before its time for you to hit the bucket you will see that there are no serbs left in Kosova. And thats a promise Zoran.

Serbia itself is a failed state and Germany's 7 EU conditions for Serbia are the death sentence:)
(Nelli_Canada, 14 September 2012 13:41)
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So one of those conditions is for Serbia to find those who attacked the German embassy in Belgrade? Aha, well, German embassies are being attacked all around the world along with the UK and US. Why is that I wonder? Check -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19602177

Is it because of an anti-Islam film or because the world has had enough of NATO and NAZIs and ZIONists?

News of the Day: I knew full well about the SAA as I was involved in negotiating its terms both in Serbia and Bosnia. It is one thing to apply an agreement to one part of a terrority it is another to determine what part of that territory is applying for EU membership. A number of posters on this site seem to be under the impression that I am supportive of the Serbs in these discussions; I am not. I am in no-one's camp but find myself increasingly frustrated that an organisation that cannot agree amongst itself is happy to hand out 'orders' to others.

@ Zoran Everyone in Scotland and Wales are really really jealous of Kosovo and everyone knows Nikolic and co are EU badgers chasing the EU's carrot; now go back to your silly Youtube videos.
(Ian, UK, 14 September 2012 15:14)
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Here you go Ian, some more "silly" videos just for you ... to hopefully help you understand what's more important to Serbs ... KiM or some Euro-Atlantic boot licking ...

What's funny is that you and your German buddies are wasting effort on hypothetical questions that won't be considered for at least another 8 years, when the EU probably won't even exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrc5eSVprds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7JMtBZdNqg

I like the second one.

just before its time for you to hit the bucket you will see that there are no serbs left in Kosova. And thats a promise Zoran.
(Nori, 14 September 2012 14:55)
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You are proud of this statement? Spoken like a true Albanian.
Tell us who will you leave alone in "Kosova" after you get it all for yourself? Is there a group there you actually have not tried to run out?
This is precisely why Milosevic went into Kosovo. It's people like you who deserved a big arse kicking. He made a mistake in not getting all his ducks in the row but his idea was fabulous.

Ian UK: Two things. Number 1, when unanimity is required for any decision it is not a case of 'sod the five' or any other number of countries, just one can stall things; for a change it's not the Dutch! Number 2, when the scenario that you paint comes to fruition, ie that 5 becomes 4 becomes 3 and so forth, we will then have the unananimous position required. I would be happy either way and would welcome both Serbia and Kosovo to the EU if that's what they and the EU want. You are right of course that 22 can stall Serbia's application but from what I have heard from Belgrade the government is (currently) prioritising Kosovo over EU membership. That is the democratic choice of the people of Serbia and whether one agrees with that position or not it is theirs alone to take.

(sergei, 14 September 2012 20:23)

I completely agree with you.

There is a strong interest by Jews, particularly Israeli Jews to strengthen relations with Serbia and Serbs. In fact, Israels strongest ally in the Balkans is arguably Republika Srpska which has kept Bosnia from voting for pro Palestinian causes in the UN.

In the Jerusalem Post there were two editorials about Jews bringing Serbia closer because as the piece put, no country is more similar to Israel on this planet than Serbia. A different piece that came out on the Jerusalem Post was about how Serbia MUST rewrite a historic wrong in betraying General Draza Mihajlovic and renounce its communist past. I am in full agreement with that.

Israel should be Serbia's second closest ally in this world. No two countries are completely surrounded by enemies which are hell bent on destroying it. Serbia should offer a military base or at very least a advance surveillance center for countering the spread of Jihadism in the region.

I can't imagine them saying no. What country that is near to that many Muslims would offer Israel such an opportunity. And also a stronger relationship with Israel can be used as a lobby to get the old 90's era psychopathic policy makers in the West to fly away already and leave Serbia alone.

To hell with the EU already. Russia, Israel and China need to be Serbia's three main foreign policy pillars. The West will come around in time.

You really had to go there Zoran? What have the Jews done to you?
(sergei, 14 September 2012 20:23)
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If I wanted to say Jews I would have but I didn't. I said Zionists for a reason as they have also done quite a lot of damage to Serbia. The US media, which they control, has been unending in its hostility towards Serbia and Serbs.

So Jews in general support Serbia. I have no issue with that but Zionist in general do not support us. Also, I support the Palestinians in their fight for freedom. They are suffering the same kind of genocide as Serbs in KiM all with the backing of chief land snatcher the US of A.

yes Peggy, it is always other peoples fault. never the noble Serbs who have never done any harm to anyone :-)

Is it because of an anti-Islam film or because the world has had enough of NATO and NAZIs and ZIONists?
(Zoran, 14 September 2012 15:21)

You really had to go there Zoran? What have the Jews done to you? They shared your fate in the '40's and do in Kosovo today. Yes, I know the role they played under the Turks, which still doesn't add up to a tiny fraction of what Muslim Serb converts did to their brothers. Has Kosovo and Bosnia not thought you who the real enemy is? And in the last 60 - 70 years, it is the Jews, particularly Zionist Jews, who have lead the fight against that enemy. Hell, no one on this site is more pro-Serbian than our friend Ari Gold.

Germany didn't tell milosevic to say that back in 1989 in Gazimestan and start all the mess OK. Serbia itself is a failed state and Germany's 7 EU conditions for Serbia are the death sentence:)
(Nelli_Canada, 14 September 2012 13:41)
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No, Germany did not tell Milosevic to say anything, but Germany DID tell your lot to start problems way back with a promise of help.
You and only you are guilty for what happened in Kosovo. You started the mess, not Milosevic who was only reacting to all the terror you inflicted on the Serbs.
Milosevic didn't do it right, but the idea was right.

You are proud of this statement? Spoken like a true Albanian.
Tell us who will you leave alone in "Kosova" after you get it all for yourself? Is there a group there you actually have not tried to run out?
This is precisely why Milosevic went into Kosovo. It's people like you who deserved a big arse kicking. He made a mistake in not getting all his ducks in the row but his idea was fabulous.
(Peggy, 15 September 2012 02:50)

Well im as albanian as one gets, and certainly im prud of that statment. And from my point of wiew its not that strange of an ide since Serbs slaughtered a substatial part of my family burnt my home etc etc, and you still having hard time deciding in whos to blaim for what happend, theres no point in getting in to that argument since we will never agree? But you should know that i was born in KosovA in 1980 and i actually know first hand what was going on there. You should be happy that my wish is to only chase you out of KosovA and nothing else. Everyone else is welcome in Kosova exept Serbs or Russians for that matter since your are the same. And thats a promise to you to Peggy!

Sergei: I have no enemies. My country has made plenty of them over the years but I do not feel obliged to join in with the hatred. Britain was at war with Germany less than 70 years ago and yet we have put the past behind us and tried to move on. For the sake of the Balkans perhaps others could give this a try on all sides.

oh brilliant, B92 never fails to attarct religious nutcases. Constantinople? you mean Instabul right?

Ian: I took your comment regarding the 'five' to be in relation to Kosovo not Serbia but yes of course one country can block membership and will likely do so with Serbia and with Kosovo too should the latter decide to make an application. As things stand neither join and I don't see that as a great loss to either country. Unfortunately for Britain the French changed their minds......

Nori

We'll be back in our KosovO in force some day and chase you to Albania where you are from. I promise YOU Nori.

Good night sleep tight don't let the albobugs bite!!

Zoran;

While I won't dignify some of what you said by commenting on it (Zionists control the US media and shape US opinion of Serbia) I will say this. The same religio-nationalist ethos that obliged the Islamic state to invade and occupy Jerusalem and the Holly Land under Omar ibn Hattab in 634, obliged it to do likewise to Serbia under Murad in 1389. The same dynamic of occupation and sharia law created a collaborationist ruling class of converts in Bosnia, Albania, and the Valley of Jordan. Same process in India and Africa and so, with the accompanying slaughter and enslavement. You chose the enemies you wish. I know mine and will support who ever stands against them, whether its in Pristina , Sarajevo, Jerusalem, Grozny, Alexandria, Kashmir, Xinjiang, and one day, God willing, Constantinople.

@ its not me its them

"B92 maintains the right to choos which comments to publish"! I guess thats why you never got my answer, well your loss i guess :)!

@Ari Gold: Israel is very pragmatic and not so emotional like you here...some Serbs or better Yugoslavs had played a role in the history of Israel or better IDF, Serbia is today of no importance: it has nothing to offer to a high-tech country like srael and it is very poor (not of interest for investments), i you see Greece with its geo-strategic position Israel has real interests...also the Albanians are playing the "jewish card" and some of their supporters are of jewish origin...so be more realistic and by the way: all the best for 5773

It seems Germany has finally shown its ugly head as the architect of the destruction of Yugoslavia. We've been there before and we will smile and nod during occupation but it will all come to an end and the end is in sight. The NATO death machine has made a complete mess of this world and people are beginning to stand up. The Chinese to the Japanese, the Arabs to the US and Serbs to NATO.

Here is a clear message to my dear K*-Albanians, Germans and so on. This is from the people, not the politicians. Oj Kosovo, Kosovo...what a beautiful song! Check -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wtuUnCSvcE

as I suspected Zoran, you most probably lose yourself in pointless fairy tales about Serbian knights and most likely believe nonsense like how the honorable Serb stood up to the Turkish yoke and defended the rest of Europe from Islamic tyranny. sunshine, come to Prishtina and see how much of it is Serbia :-) in the meantime carry on reading garbage sites like slobodan-milosevic.org or other 1389 nonsense. oh and do not stop believing that the break up of Yugoslavia was a German conspiracy, it sure as hell helps you from facing the horrid truth as well as the obvious one, that your people killed that entity to begin with. Živela eh?

Germany needs to remember what happened the last two times it tried to bully Serbia...

The problem as I see it is that before a date for talks can be given the EU will want to know the borders of the country with which they will be talking. If 22 countries believe that a Serbian application for membership does not include Kosovo and 5 believe that it does then the issue is with the EU not Serbia; Serbia has one clear position, certainly within government, whereas the EU does not. All talk of contractual arrangements misses this point and the speaker and his German colleagues would be better off addressing the above issue within the EU before imposing conditions on Serbia.
(ned taylor, 14 September 2012 11:18)

And Serbia needs the support of the 22 EU member states who recognise Kosovo, for Serbia to enter the EU. Every single member has to ratify Serbia's membership and they can say that they won't ratify Serbia's membership until Serbia recognises Kosovo. So in other words Sod the 5 who don't recognise Kosovo.

And how long do you think it'll be before 5 becomes 4? Then 4 becomes 3 and so on.

The problem as I see it is that before a date for talks can be given the EU will want to know the borders of the country with which they will be talking. If 22 countries believe that a Serbian application for membership does not include Kosovo and 5 believe that it does then the issue is with the EU not Serbia; Serbia has one clear position, certainly within government, whereas the EU does not. All talk of contractual arrangements misses this point and the speaker and his German colleagues would be better off addressing the above issue within the EU before imposing conditions on Serbia.

@ Zoran

Stop blaming Germany(western world) for serbia's failure in the past. Germany didn't tell milosevic to say that back in 1989 in Gazimestan and start all the mess OK. Serbia itself is a failed state and Germany's 7 EU conditions for Serbia are the death sentence:)

Živela eh?
(Nikolle, 14 September 2012 12:16)
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Oh Nikolle, I know you love my videos. Here are a few more for you. A good sign of what's to come.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GHfJzqlz54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYbVKxShJ5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyj5jdxn56I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZDS0cBMRhw

You should know that Germany always messes up Europe whenever it takes the helm... This time (the last one) is no different.

Ian, Serbs voted out the "no alternative to EU" sellouts. In other words, the desire to join the EU is diminishing, which is also shown in surveys (less than 50% I believe). So basically, you can keep your rotten EU carrot, it stinks!

The way things are going in the EU, it looks like you'll be getting a few extra members for free. It's called the "Kosova"* precedent. You know, EU members Catalonia, Scotland, Wales....

But at the end of the day, no Serbia in EU = no "Kosova"* in the EU. Your problem here is that K*-Albanians have a strong desire to join, not the Serbs.

And how long do you think it'll be before 5 becomes 4? Then 4 becomes 3 and so on.
(Ian, UK, 14 September 2012 12:33)

You need therapy, you seem to care more for Serbs and Serbia than Albanians do and that is saying a lot. Again what a large portion of Serbs (dare I say majority) think is to hell with the EU. If Greece, Bulgaria and Romania are not enjoying life in the EU then why would Serbia. We should never join the EU even if Kosovo i Metohija was not an issue much less now.

All these brave Serbian here seems to learn from our dictator Hoxha that said that Albania can defend itself both by NATO and Warsaw Treaty. Fortunately, it is a past time for Albania.

Serbia itself is a failed state and Germany's 7 EU conditions for Serbia are the death sentence:)
(Nelli_Canada, 14 September 2012 13:41)
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So one of those conditions is for Serbia to find those who attacked the German embassy in Belgrade? Aha, well, German embassies are being attacked all around the world along with the UK and US. Why is that I wonder? Check -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19602177

Is it because of an anti-Islam film or because the world has had enough of NATO and NAZIs and ZIONists?

(ned taylor, 14 September 2012 11:18)
Got news for you ned, shame you did not know it. Everything Serbia has done to date to enter the EU, has been sans Kosovo. It is not included in any agreement to date. Your visa liberalization, your SAA, all talks do not in any way reference a claim on Kosovo.
Serbia without Kosovo is not a new concept.

News of the Day: I knew full well about the SAA as I was involved in negotiating its terms both in Serbia and Bosnia. It is one thing to apply an agreement to one part of a terrority it is another to determine what part of that territory is applying for EU membership. A number of posters on this site seem to be under the impression that I am supportive of the Serbs in these discussions; I am not. I am in no-one's camp but find myself increasingly frustrated that an organisation that cannot agree amongst itself is happy to hand out 'orders' to others.

@ Zoran, thank you for those videos. Now i know for a fact that you got issues. I truly hope that you are young and that you have a long and helthy life because i want you to be present and see that Kosova will never again be under serbian authority and by the time you get old just before its time for you to hit the bucket you will see that there are no serbs left in Kosova. And thats a promise Zoran.

@ Zoran Everyone in Scotland and Wales are really really jealous of Kosovo and everyone knows Nikolic and co are EU badgers chasing the EU's carrot; now go back to your silly Youtube videos.
(Ian, UK, 14 September 2012 15:14)
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Here you go Ian, some more "silly" videos just for you ... to hopefully help you understand what's more important to Serbs ... KiM or some Euro-Atlantic boot licking ...

What's funny is that you and your German buddies are wasting effort on hypothetical questions that won't be considered for at least another 8 years, when the EU probably won't even exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrc5eSVprds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7JMtBZdNqg

I like the second one.

(sergei, 14 September 2012 20:23)

I completely agree with you.

There is a strong interest by Jews, particularly Israeli Jews to strengthen relations with Serbia and Serbs. In fact, Israels strongest ally in the Balkans is arguably Republika Srpska which has kept Bosnia from voting for pro Palestinian causes in the UN.

In the Jerusalem Post there were two editorials about Jews bringing Serbia closer because as the piece put, no country is more similar to Israel on this planet than Serbia. A different piece that came out on the Jerusalem Post was about how Serbia MUST rewrite a historic wrong in betraying General Draza Mihajlovic and renounce its communist past. I am in full agreement with that.

Israel should be Serbia's second closest ally in this world. No two countries are completely surrounded by enemies which are hell bent on destroying it. Serbia should offer a military base or at very least a advance surveillance center for countering the spread of Jihadism in the region.

I can't imagine them saying no. What country that is near to that many Muslims would offer Israel such an opportunity. And also a stronger relationship with Israel can be used as a lobby to get the old 90's era psychopathic policy makers in the West to fly away already and leave Serbia alone.

To hell with the EU already. Russia, Israel and China need to be Serbia's three main foreign policy pillars. The West will come around in time.

Ian UK: Two things. Number 1, when unanimity is required for any decision it is not a case of 'sod the five' or any other number of countries, just one can stall things; for a change it's not the Dutch! Number 2, when the scenario that you paint comes to fruition, ie that 5 becomes 4 becomes 3 and so forth, we will then have the unananimous position required. I would be happy either way and would welcome both Serbia and Kosovo to the EU if that's what they and the EU want. You are right of course that 22 can stall Serbia's application but from what I have heard from Belgrade the government is (currently) prioritising Kosovo over EU membership. That is the democratic choice of the people of Serbia and whether one agrees with that position or not it is theirs alone to take.

(ned taylor, 14 September 2012 14:15)

You're correct about unanimity, all 27 (soon to be 28) members have to agree to Serbia's membership aka there has to be unanimity. And certain members will only agree to Serbia's membership once Serbia does what they want, ie recognise Kosovo. So there won't be unanimity for Serbia's membership until Serbia recognises Kosovo.

Was there unanimity when France vetoed the UK's membership? Was there unamity when Morroco's membership was blocked? Unanimity isn't needed to block (what you call 'stall') memberhip.

Yes the current government in Belgrade thinks it is choosing Kosovo before the EU. But Serbia has two options. 1) Have EU membership and not have Kosovo. 2) Not have EU membership and not have Kosovo. That is reality.

@ Zoran Everyone in Scotland and Wales are really really jealous of Kosovo and everyone knows Nikolic and co are EU badgers chasing the EU's carrot; now go back to your silly Youtube videos.

here we go again fight, combat etc

You really had to go there Zoran? What have the Jews done to you?
(sergei, 14 September 2012 20:23)
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If I wanted to say Jews I would have but I didn't. I said Zionists for a reason as they have also done quite a lot of damage to Serbia. The US media, which they control, has been unending in its hostility towards Serbia and Serbs.

So Jews in general support Serbia. I have no issue with that but Zionist in general do not support us. Also, I support the Palestinians in their fight for freedom. They are suffering the same kind of genocide as Serbs in KiM all with the backing of chief land snatcher the US of A.

Ian: I took your comment regarding the 'five' to be in relation to Kosovo not Serbia but yes of course one country can block membership and will likely do so with Serbia and with Kosovo too should the latter decide to make an application. As things stand neither join and I don't see that as a great loss to either country. Unfortunately for Britain the French changed their minds......

Nori

We'll be back in our KosovO in force some day and chase you to Albania where you are from. I promise YOU Nori.

Good night sleep tight don't let the albobugs bite!!

just before its time for you to hit the bucket you will see that there are no serbs left in Kosova. And thats a promise Zoran.
(Nori, 14 September 2012 14:55)
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You are proud of this statement? Spoken like a true Albanian.
Tell us who will you leave alone in "Kosova" after you get it all for yourself? Is there a group there you actually have not tried to run out?
This is precisely why Milosevic went into Kosovo. It's people like you who deserved a big arse kicking. He made a mistake in not getting all his ducks in the row but his idea was fabulous.

Germany didn't tell milosevic to say that back in 1989 in Gazimestan and start all the mess OK. Serbia itself is a failed state and Germany's 7 EU conditions for Serbia are the death sentence:)
(Nelli_Canada, 14 September 2012 13:41)
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No, Germany did not tell Milosevic to say anything, but Germany DID tell your lot to start problems way back with a promise of help.
You and only you are guilty for what happened in Kosovo. You started the mess, not Milosevic who was only reacting to all the terror you inflicted on the Serbs.
Milosevic didn't do it right, but the idea was right.

yes Peggy, it is always other peoples fault. never the noble Serbs who have never done any harm to anyone :-)

You are proud of this statement? Spoken like a true Albanian.
Tell us who will you leave alone in "Kosova" after you get it all for yourself? Is there a group there you actually have not tried to run out?
This is precisely why Milosevic went into Kosovo. It's people like you who deserved a big arse kicking. He made a mistake in not getting all his ducks in the row but his idea was fabulous.
(Peggy, 15 September 2012 02:50)

Well im as albanian as one gets, and certainly im prud of that statment. And from my point of wiew its not that strange of an ide since Serbs slaughtered a substatial part of my family burnt my home etc etc, and you still having hard time deciding in whos to blaim for what happend, theres no point in getting in to that argument since we will never agree? But you should know that i was born in KosovA in 1980 and i actually know first hand what was going on there. You should be happy that my wish is to only chase you out of KosovA and nothing else. Everyone else is welcome in Kosova exept Serbs or Russians for that matter since your are the same. And thats a promise to you to Peggy!

Zoran;

While I won't dignify some of what you said by commenting on it (Zionists control the US media and shape US opinion of Serbia) I will say this. The same religio-nationalist ethos that obliged the Islamic state to invade and occupy Jerusalem and the Holly Land under Omar ibn Hattab in 634, obliged it to do likewise to Serbia under Murad in 1389. The same dynamic of occupation and sharia law created a collaborationist ruling class of converts in Bosnia, Albania, and the Valley of Jordan. Same process in India and Africa and so, with the accompanying slaughter and enslavement. You chose the enemies you wish. I know mine and will support who ever stands against them, whether its in Pristina , Sarajevo, Jerusalem, Grozny, Alexandria, Kashmir, Xinjiang, and one day, God willing, Constantinople.

Is it because of an anti-Islam film or because the world has had enough of NATO and NAZIs and ZIONists?
(Zoran, 14 September 2012 15:21)

You really had to go there Zoran? What have the Jews done to you? They shared your fate in the '40's and do in Kosovo today. Yes, I know the role they played under the Turks, which still doesn't add up to a tiny fraction of what Muslim Serb converts did to their brothers. Has Kosovo and Bosnia not thought you who the real enemy is? And in the last 60 - 70 years, it is the Jews, particularly Zionist Jews, who have lead the fight against that enemy. Hell, no one on this site is more pro-Serbian than our friend Ari Gold.

Sergei: I have no enemies. My country has made plenty of them over the years but I do not feel obliged to join in with the hatred. Britain was at war with Germany less than 70 years ago and yet we have put the past behind us and tried to move on. For the sake of the Balkans perhaps others could give this a try on all sides.

oh brilliant, B92 never fails to attarct religious nutcases. Constantinople? you mean Instabul right?

@ its not me its them

"B92 maintains the right to choos which comments to publish"! I guess thats why you never got my answer, well your loss i guess :)!

@Ari Gold: Israel is very pragmatic and not so emotional like you here...some Serbs or better Yugoslavs had played a role in the history of Israel or better IDF, Serbia is today of no importance: it has nothing to offer to a high-tech country like srael and it is very poor (not of interest for investments), i you see Greece with its geo-strategic position Israel has real interests...also the Albanians are playing the "jewish card" and some of their supporters are of jewish origin...so be more realistic and by the way: all the best for 5773