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Wednesday, 22.08.2012.

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“Kosovo status cannot be resolved outside UNSC”

Serbian PM Ivica Dačić stressed at the UNSC session Tuesday that any solution for the Kosovo issue that did not have the consent of the UNSC was unacceptable.

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onlyme

pre 11 godina

I found your comments disappointing considering that you come form the same region as I come from yet you hope of stagnation, unemployment, anarchy and miserable living conditions. I think that pretty much sums up the Serb policy towards Kosovo but don’t forget everything is interconnected and somehow in one way or another it affects us all.
I agree about the cost imposed on the EU and that is precisely the reason why the EU and international community is working very hard to complete transition period for supervised independence. So I hope you understand what I mean by this Serb duplicity policy of block and stall on one side and on the other side pleading to the international community not to downsize UNMIK which it has already done. This is not going to work for long and Serbia is losing time by living in denial and Kosovo is tied to it.

sj

pre 11 godina

(onlyme, 23 August 2012 17:16)
The west is facilitating these talks because it is running out of cash to keep all those rule of law people in Kosovo as it costs about $1 billion per year to keep troops police administrators in that region and Brussels know that if they leave now Kosovo would descend into anarchy. The west wants to allow free movement of Albanians before it explodes in their faces and they get targeted for the miserable living conditions in a free and democratic country.
The Serbs in the South have to be very quiet because the west would turn a blind eye to their expulsion by the Albanians. How could you let these Serbs complain about living conditions when the west has brought Utopia to that region. .
You tell me how many western companies have announced their relocation to Kosovo? NOT ONE!!!!! So how is Kosovo going to prosper? What EU money for ever and a day? Kosovo CANNOT stand on its own two feet so the western clowns want Belgrade to recognize it than allow the Albanians to look for work in Serbia proper and then ask Belgrade to contribute to propping up the Pristina regime, democratically of course.
Belgrade has adopted the best policy towards Pristina resulting in stagnation. I can assure you that the Albanians suffer more than the Serbs in Kosovo as it has up to 80% unemployment and the EU is losing it fight against disintegration of Europe … you can guess what happens next.

onlyme

pre 11 godina

I think you misunderstood me when you said it’s a done deal. My point eluded to the fact that comments form Mr Dačič suggest undoing all the progress that UNMIK, KFOR and EULEX have done in establishing rule of law and self-governance by Kosovars. Self-determination, sovereignty and independence are not abstract things, they are continual ongoing processes and struggles that take time.
The West is not trying to make Serbia or Kosovo do anything but merely show the standards and conditions a prosperous nation should adopt if it aspires to be a democratic thriving nation. And not deny others existence like what current Serbian policy is doing to Kosovo. The West is facilitating and sponsoring the negotiations as it’s a mutual interest to strengthen and give back dignity to the whole region. I used that term for south Kosovo Serbs as I sincerely believe that there is nothing hampering their advances as a community with the exception of Belgrade policy which is drawing them backwards by making indirect threats, stalling integration, leaving them frightened in their own homes. I know that some of the Serb community suffers but I sincerely believe that the majority cause is directly due to overall Belgrade policy toward Kosovo (which is complete annihilation and ignorant “you dont exist attitude”).

sj

pre 11 godina

(onlyme, 23 August 2012 11:40)
You trying too hard to convince yourself that it’s a done deal. Otherwise you would not be leaving your comments on this website nor would the glorious west try “reconciliation” between the Serbs and Kosovo Albanians.
Get this through your extremely thick heads. The EU will not allow Albanians to move freely throughout Europe looking for work so they are trying to open the door to Belgrade. As industry opens up in Serbia, and it is doing just that, the west hopes to get Serbia to allow the Albanian rabble to look for work, but hey I could be wrong and you can enlighten us by telling what western industry has announced its relocation to an independent Kosovo.
Love that bit about Serbs in south Kosovo live like Dukes. Pure magic. You must be in advertising to come up with that one.
If Kosovo was independent the west would not be wasting time with Belgrade trying to get agreements out of the Serbs – you can only keep fooling yourself, but whatever turns you on.

onlyme

pre 11 godina

Dick Marty’s allegations have been so far unfounded, smear propaganda with no hard evidence being put forward
Mr Dačič said to work with Fifth Committee of the GA i.e. Jeremic ensuring additional UN funds to Kosovo, this talk is cheap, tacky, day-dreaming once again showing the secret agenda, the Serb main motive to keep Kosovo segregated and isolated stirring up inter-ethnic friction
According to Mr Dačič the reconfiguration of EULEX is unlawful and there is a need to beef-up the UNMIK presence in the province. What he fails to notice is that UNMIK has been downsizing and working to train/make competent the local government (government of Kosovo) and have been handing power and authority progressively for years
EU mediated agreements are status neutral EULEX status-neutrality was the only route for EULEX to get operational in Kosovo
The reconfiguration of EULEX and downsizing of UNMIK are a disturbing news for the day-dreaming Serb politician hoping to “get Kosovo back”. the only life support for them remains the sovereignty card that most of EU and US disregard as mainly originates from outdated Yugoslav ideology
Serbs need to once and for all wake up from this dreadful dream and accept reality. Serbs in south Kosovo live like Dukes. Kosovo is independent.
Lasting peace is ensured by reconciliation self-governance, law and justice effectively ending one-sided Serb oppression and domination. Normalisation and regional reconciliation is achieved by recognition.

justhetruth

pre 11 godina

Trust me I have being there live there and walk from there people in the Balkan can't achieve and can't do nothing for they future ,always for them will exist YESTERDAY there is no TOMORROW...I just feel sorry for innocent people no matter ethnicity being victim of the AMATEURS

some truth for blind folks

pre 11 godina

Timing:
Serbia needs to solve it NOW to get EU. Kosovo is not in rush.

Politics:
Before last elections Kosovo was under pressure to make deals in order to save Tadic coalition. Now they are not!

Economy:
Serbia is in deep crisis. Kosovo is not. Kosovo was already in deep crisis before. Nothing changed in the meantime.

Geopolitic:
Nobody cares to who Serbia belongs. Geographically irrelevant to NATO or to Russia. Serbia is already surrounded from NATO members. Russia needed Serbia only for southstream pipeline and they already got it. All they need will get it for free. Only using veto. For how long?!
Serbia thinks to be the "most relevant factor" in the Balkans. This is only a Serbian dream. Geopolitically important is Bulgaria, Romania, Greece and Turkey. The rest is nothing! Kosovo included. Serbia doesn't have good relationship with any of his neighbors, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia or Hungaria. Just with Bulgaria but it is not considered a friend country. Just acceptable relations. To be the main factor country in the balkans you must have something the others needs. Do you?! What is it?!

Good luck in these talks!

icj1

pre 11 godina

administered by the UN under UNSC resolution 1244.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Exactly, and thus independent from Serbia since 1999
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You can ignore the law all you want, but it will not work.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Indeed, ignoring the law would not work. That’s why KiM declared independence in accordance with international law.
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How did the Olympic team from the independent nation of KiM do this summer?
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

The same as it would have done if Kosovo were to be under Serbia… :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

The status of Kosovo was not resolved outside of the UN. Pristina proclaimed a UDI, which was not illegal in international law, but did not mean that KiM actually at that point became an independent Albanian State.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

You are absolutely correct… Kosovo was independent from Serbia since 1999 – didn’t become independent from Serbia in 2008.
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Why is that so hard for some folks to understand? I can proclaim to be the King of Siam tomorrow, it is not illegal
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

That’s debatable. We need to analyze what the international law says about proclaiming to be the King of Siam and then decide whether that’s legal or illegal. Until the ICJ says that proclaiming to be the King of Siam is not illegal under international law, we’ll never know with certainty :)
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but will people actually bow to me there, is another matter.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Bowing or not bowing has nothing to do with declarations of independence.

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

Ian..ten years ago there were no Kosovars..there still arent. there are Serbs and Albanians. Use common sense. Its a fake state..where the albanian politicians use that term to the world..in defending an illegal proclamation. go to Kosovo and Metohija..ask twenty people what they are. They will not say kosovar..nor does any albo there want to be called that. they waive albanian flags and call themselves albanians. Us Serbs call ourself Serbs..yet cant waive a Serb flag. because that is considered nationalistic??!! Horrible..so please refrain from using false, unapplicable, and thought up fake terms for people that call themselves and each other everything but that. ALBANIANS SHOULD remain albos..living in the state of Serbia. bottom line.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"There is no orchestrated campaign of intimidation. Attacks on Serb community stem from annihilated family members of the war victims oath-ed to pursue revenge but more significantly as a direct result of Serbian government attitude towards Kosovo. "
(onlyme, 22 August 2012 16:32)

Yes, there's no orchestrated campaign. Attack on Serbs (which unfortunately even includes murdering them) stems from Kosovo Albanian criminals who usurped property, houses and apartments owned by Serbs and who don't like the legitimate owners to come back or claim their property. Their behavior is encouraged by impunity when it comes to crimes against Serbs.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Yes Kosovo unilaterally resolved the status and Serbia is starting to accept this. And yes the UDI (aka reading a letter stating their intentions) didn't physically make Kosovo an independent state, the Kosovo Assembly independently assuming lots of powers from the UK which it previously didn't have and independently establishing governmental institutions physically made Kosovo Independent. This is what is known as reality.

Yes a document written in 1999 can say that "Kosovo is administrated by the UN", but it doesn't make it reality; why is that so hard for you to understand?
Kosovo has been functioning as a state for over four years now, having a bloke sitting at the UN won't change things on the ground; things won't be any different. Reality will remain the same. No-one is ignoring law, everything is in line with the law.

I think I might answer your question about the Olympics with a question. How did the non-independent states of Cook Islands, Hong Kong, UK Virgin Isles, US Virgin Isles, Cayman Isles, American Samoa, Puetro Rico ect do at the Olympics?

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Kosovo's status was resolved outside the UNSC in line with international law over four years ago - Ian
The status of Kosovo was not resolved outside of the UN. Pristina proclaimed a UDI, which was not illegal in international law, but did not mean that KiM actually at that point became an independent Albanian State. Why is that so hard for some folks to understand? I can proclaim to be the King of Siam tomorrow, it is not illegal, but will people actually bow to me there, is another matter. Sorry, Ian, when KiM gets its own UN seat, then it will the a nation amongst equals - for now, it is still Serbia's southern province, administered by the UN under UNSC resolution 1244. You can ignore the law all you want, but it will not work. How did the Olympic team from the independent nation of KiM do this summer?

onlyme

pre 11 godina

A lot of 200.000 non-Albanians that fled Kosovo were involved in crimes against Albanians. Some of them were refugees themselves from Bosnia. a present to Kosmet from Slobo. Kosovo government is not doing enough and needs EU support to ensure Kosovars (Serb, Albanian) are returned to their homes.

There is no orchestrated campaign of intimidation. Attacks on Serb community stem from annihilated family members of the war victims oath-ed to pursue revenge but more significantly as a direct result of Serbian government attitude towards Kosovo. Denying Kosovo existence.
Secret service activities are also not excluded considering the killings in Talinovac were of the two humble Serbs living there for years and have been known employees of Kosovo authorities. There are other cold-blooded killing that take place and such murderers must be punished and put to shame. Disagreements aside, when such killings occur most Kosovars are saddened by the news, regardless of what some Serbs might think.

Wayne

pre 11 godina

Wow, marking Serb cars with certain license plate numbers/letters - why not just paint a target on the Serb cars?
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 14:29)

Having eg PR or no lincese plate is for sure much better...
Is there a link to that great source available? To me it all sounds Greek:
http://www.diadikasia.gr/0000000000/index.html

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Kosovo's status was resolved outside the UNSC in line with international law over four years ago and Serbia day-by-day is coming to terms with this but feels the need to drag it out, which is having a negative affect on the daily lives of all Kosovars.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

I don't see anything that Dacic said as being inflammatory, out of line. He is simply looking out for the well being of the remaining Serb population in KiM, and the Serbian State's interests. Wow, marking Serb cars with certain license plate numbers/letters - why not just paint a target on the Serb cars? It would be a lot easier for the Albanian snipers and rock throwers to spot. But not be alarmed, the Snake said the Serbs are safe in KiM. He wouldn't lie now, would he? Not a man of his impeccable character.

onlyme

pre 11 godina

Nothing new the old schizophrenic policies filled with double standards projecting willingness and flexibility on the surface filled with steel rigid stances at grass root level. Different words for different audiences. I see no improvement with blocking tactics not allowing Kosovo accede to international organisations claiming Yugoslav sovereignty for the Serbian state denying mere existence of Kosovo and its people.
Politically and ethnically motivated smears inciting ethnic segregation in an already segregated Kosovo society, not promoting peace and tolerance in my opinion.
Making anti-Semitic links with disallowed Serb licence plates. This is not good new for anybody in Kosovo. But then will they notice it. It’s music to their ears for one community. blood boiling for the other. This is how we solve problems and do dialogue in the Balkans.

Jovan

pre 11 godina

@ben: no, because there are TWO permanent members with a veto-right. like it or not, but you are doomed to fail.

as for this NGO´s info on Serbs being marked... it only shows that the K-albanian "heroes" who are acting the role of "poletitians" in Priština simply show off their inclination to nazi-methods... well, but who would be surprised, just remember the fathers and grandfathers of todays K-albanians were siding with the Nazi´s.

miles

pre 11 godina

Unfortunately the Americans and Brits were probably listening to their iplayers at the time.

Dacic is wasting his breath on these people. Truth, justice equality and above all facts pale into insignificance when power and profits are at stake.

Thankfully Serbia has China, Russia and India on its side, and they are starting to flex their muscle against the Imperialists.

Time is on her side.

miles

pre 11 godina

Unfortunately the Americans and Brits were probably listening to their iplayers at the time.

Dacic is wasting his breath on these people. Truth, justice equality and above all facts pale into insignificance when power and profits are at stake.

Thankfully Serbia has China, Russia and India on its side, and they are starting to flex their muscle against the Imperialists.

Time is on her side.

Jovan

pre 11 godina

@ben: no, because there are TWO permanent members with a veto-right. like it or not, but you are doomed to fail.

as for this NGO´s info on Serbs being marked... it only shows that the K-albanian "heroes" who are acting the role of "poletitians" in Priština simply show off their inclination to nazi-methods... well, but who would be surprised, just remember the fathers and grandfathers of todays K-albanians were siding with the Nazi´s.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Kosovo's status was resolved outside the UNSC in line with international law over four years ago and Serbia day-by-day is coming to terms with this but feels the need to drag it out, which is having a negative affect on the daily lives of all Kosovars.

onlyme

pre 11 godina

A lot of 200.000 non-Albanians that fled Kosovo were involved in crimes against Albanians. Some of them were refugees themselves from Bosnia. a present to Kosmet from Slobo. Kosovo government is not doing enough and needs EU support to ensure Kosovars (Serb, Albanian) are returned to their homes.

There is no orchestrated campaign of intimidation. Attacks on Serb community stem from annihilated family members of the war victims oath-ed to pursue revenge but more significantly as a direct result of Serbian government attitude towards Kosovo. Denying Kosovo existence.
Secret service activities are also not excluded considering the killings in Talinovac were of the two humble Serbs living there for years and have been known employees of Kosovo authorities. There are other cold-blooded killing that take place and such murderers must be punished and put to shame. Disagreements aside, when such killings occur most Kosovars are saddened by the news, regardless of what some Serbs might think.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

I don't see anything that Dacic said as being inflammatory, out of line. He is simply looking out for the well being of the remaining Serb population in KiM, and the Serbian State's interests. Wow, marking Serb cars with certain license plate numbers/letters - why not just paint a target on the Serb cars? It would be a lot easier for the Albanian snipers and rock throwers to spot. But not be alarmed, the Snake said the Serbs are safe in KiM. He wouldn't lie now, would he? Not a man of his impeccable character.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Kosovo's status was resolved outside the UNSC in line with international law over four years ago - Ian
The status of Kosovo was not resolved outside of the UN. Pristina proclaimed a UDI, which was not illegal in international law, but did not mean that KiM actually at that point became an independent Albanian State. Why is that so hard for some folks to understand? I can proclaim to be the King of Siam tomorrow, it is not illegal, but will people actually bow to me there, is another matter. Sorry, Ian, when KiM gets its own UN seat, then it will the a nation amongst equals - for now, it is still Serbia's southern province, administered by the UN under UNSC resolution 1244. You can ignore the law all you want, but it will not work. How did the Olympic team from the independent nation of KiM do this summer?

onlyme

pre 11 godina

Nothing new the old schizophrenic policies filled with double standards projecting willingness and flexibility on the surface filled with steel rigid stances at grass root level. Different words for different audiences. I see no improvement with blocking tactics not allowing Kosovo accede to international organisations claiming Yugoslav sovereignty for the Serbian state denying mere existence of Kosovo and its people.
Politically and ethnically motivated smears inciting ethnic segregation in an already segregated Kosovo society, not promoting peace and tolerance in my opinion.
Making anti-Semitic links with disallowed Serb licence plates. This is not good new for anybody in Kosovo. But then will they notice it. It’s music to their ears for one community. blood boiling for the other. This is how we solve problems and do dialogue in the Balkans.

icj1

pre 11 godina

administered by the UN under UNSC resolution 1244.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Exactly, and thus independent from Serbia since 1999
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You can ignore the law all you want, but it will not work.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Indeed, ignoring the law would not work. That’s why KiM declared independence in accordance with international law.
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How did the Olympic team from the independent nation of KiM do this summer?
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

The same as it would have done if Kosovo were to be under Serbia… :)

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Yes Kosovo unilaterally resolved the status and Serbia is starting to accept this. And yes the UDI (aka reading a letter stating their intentions) didn't physically make Kosovo an independent state, the Kosovo Assembly independently assuming lots of powers from the UK which it previously didn't have and independently establishing governmental institutions physically made Kosovo Independent. This is what is known as reality.

Yes a document written in 1999 can say that "Kosovo is administrated by the UN", but it doesn't make it reality; why is that so hard for you to understand?
Kosovo has been functioning as a state for over four years now, having a bloke sitting at the UN won't change things on the ground; things won't be any different. Reality will remain the same. No-one is ignoring law, everything is in line with the law.

I think I might answer your question about the Olympics with a question. How did the non-independent states of Cook Islands, Hong Kong, UK Virgin Isles, US Virgin Isles, Cayman Isles, American Samoa, Puetro Rico ect do at the Olympics?

Wayne

pre 11 godina

Wow, marking Serb cars with certain license plate numbers/letters - why not just paint a target on the Serb cars?
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 14:29)

Having eg PR or no lincese plate is for sure much better...
Is there a link to that great source available? To me it all sounds Greek:
http://www.diadikasia.gr/0000000000/index.html

icj1

pre 11 godina

The status of Kosovo was not resolved outside of the UN. Pristina proclaimed a UDI, which was not illegal in international law, but did not mean that KiM actually at that point became an independent Albanian State.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

You are absolutely correct… Kosovo was independent from Serbia since 1999 – didn’t become independent from Serbia in 2008.
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Why is that so hard for some folks to understand? I can proclaim to be the King of Siam tomorrow, it is not illegal
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

That’s debatable. We need to analyze what the international law says about proclaiming to be the King of Siam and then decide whether that’s legal or illegal. Until the ICJ says that proclaiming to be the King of Siam is not illegal under international law, we’ll never know with certainty :)
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but will people actually bow to me there, is another matter.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Bowing or not bowing has nothing to do with declarations of independence.

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

Ian..ten years ago there were no Kosovars..there still arent. there are Serbs and Albanians. Use common sense. Its a fake state..where the albanian politicians use that term to the world..in defending an illegal proclamation. go to Kosovo and Metohija..ask twenty people what they are. They will not say kosovar..nor does any albo there want to be called that. they waive albanian flags and call themselves albanians. Us Serbs call ourself Serbs..yet cant waive a Serb flag. because that is considered nationalistic??!! Horrible..so please refrain from using false, unapplicable, and thought up fake terms for people that call themselves and each other everything but that. ALBANIANS SHOULD remain albos..living in the state of Serbia. bottom line.

some truth for blind folks

pre 11 godina

Timing:
Serbia needs to solve it NOW to get EU. Kosovo is not in rush.

Politics:
Before last elections Kosovo was under pressure to make deals in order to save Tadic coalition. Now they are not!

Economy:
Serbia is in deep crisis. Kosovo is not. Kosovo was already in deep crisis before. Nothing changed in the meantime.

Geopolitic:
Nobody cares to who Serbia belongs. Geographically irrelevant to NATO or to Russia. Serbia is already surrounded from NATO members. Russia needed Serbia only for southstream pipeline and they already got it. All they need will get it for free. Only using veto. For how long?!
Serbia thinks to be the "most relevant factor" in the Balkans. This is only a Serbian dream. Geopolitically important is Bulgaria, Romania, Greece and Turkey. The rest is nothing! Kosovo included. Serbia doesn't have good relationship with any of his neighbors, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia or Hungaria. Just with Bulgaria but it is not considered a friend country. Just acceptable relations. To be the main factor country in the balkans you must have something the others needs. Do you?! What is it?!

Good luck in these talks!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"There is no orchestrated campaign of intimidation. Attacks on Serb community stem from annihilated family members of the war victims oath-ed to pursue revenge but more significantly as a direct result of Serbian government attitude towards Kosovo. "
(onlyme, 22 August 2012 16:32)

Yes, there's no orchestrated campaign. Attack on Serbs (which unfortunately even includes murdering them) stems from Kosovo Albanian criminals who usurped property, houses and apartments owned by Serbs and who don't like the legitimate owners to come back or claim their property. Their behavior is encouraged by impunity when it comes to crimes against Serbs.

justhetruth

pre 11 godina

Trust me I have being there live there and walk from there people in the Balkan can't achieve and can't do nothing for they future ,always for them will exist YESTERDAY there is no TOMORROW...I just feel sorry for innocent people no matter ethnicity being victim of the AMATEURS

onlyme

pre 11 godina

Dick Marty’s allegations have been so far unfounded, smear propaganda with no hard evidence being put forward
Mr Dačič said to work with Fifth Committee of the GA i.e. Jeremic ensuring additional UN funds to Kosovo, this talk is cheap, tacky, day-dreaming once again showing the secret agenda, the Serb main motive to keep Kosovo segregated and isolated stirring up inter-ethnic friction
According to Mr Dačič the reconfiguration of EULEX is unlawful and there is a need to beef-up the UNMIK presence in the province. What he fails to notice is that UNMIK has been downsizing and working to train/make competent the local government (government of Kosovo) and have been handing power and authority progressively for years
EU mediated agreements are status neutral EULEX status-neutrality was the only route for EULEX to get operational in Kosovo
The reconfiguration of EULEX and downsizing of UNMIK are a disturbing news for the day-dreaming Serb politician hoping to “get Kosovo back”. the only life support for them remains the sovereignty card that most of EU and US disregard as mainly originates from outdated Yugoslav ideology
Serbs need to once and for all wake up from this dreadful dream and accept reality. Serbs in south Kosovo live like Dukes. Kosovo is independent.
Lasting peace is ensured by reconciliation self-governance, law and justice effectively ending one-sided Serb oppression and domination. Normalisation and regional reconciliation is achieved by recognition.

sj

pre 11 godina

(onlyme, 23 August 2012 17:16)
The west is facilitating these talks because it is running out of cash to keep all those rule of law people in Kosovo as it costs about $1 billion per year to keep troops police administrators in that region and Brussels know that if they leave now Kosovo would descend into anarchy. The west wants to allow free movement of Albanians before it explodes in their faces and they get targeted for the miserable living conditions in a free and democratic country.
The Serbs in the South have to be very quiet because the west would turn a blind eye to their expulsion by the Albanians. How could you let these Serbs complain about living conditions when the west has brought Utopia to that region. .
You tell me how many western companies have announced their relocation to Kosovo? NOT ONE!!!!! So how is Kosovo going to prosper? What EU money for ever and a day? Kosovo CANNOT stand on its own two feet so the western clowns want Belgrade to recognize it than allow the Albanians to look for work in Serbia proper and then ask Belgrade to contribute to propping up the Pristina regime, democratically of course.
Belgrade has adopted the best policy towards Pristina resulting in stagnation. I can assure you that the Albanians suffer more than the Serbs in Kosovo as it has up to 80% unemployment and the EU is losing it fight against disintegration of Europe … you can guess what happens next.

onlyme

pre 11 godina

I found your comments disappointing considering that you come form the same region as I come from yet you hope of stagnation, unemployment, anarchy and miserable living conditions. I think that pretty much sums up the Serb policy towards Kosovo but don’t forget everything is interconnected and somehow in one way or another it affects us all.
I agree about the cost imposed on the EU and that is precisely the reason why the EU and international community is working very hard to complete transition period for supervised independence. So I hope you understand what I mean by this Serb duplicity policy of block and stall on one side and on the other side pleading to the international community not to downsize UNMIK which it has already done. This is not going to work for long and Serbia is losing time by living in denial and Kosovo is tied to it.

sj

pre 11 godina

(onlyme, 23 August 2012 11:40)
You trying too hard to convince yourself that it’s a done deal. Otherwise you would not be leaving your comments on this website nor would the glorious west try “reconciliation” between the Serbs and Kosovo Albanians.
Get this through your extremely thick heads. The EU will not allow Albanians to move freely throughout Europe looking for work so they are trying to open the door to Belgrade. As industry opens up in Serbia, and it is doing just that, the west hopes to get Serbia to allow the Albanian rabble to look for work, but hey I could be wrong and you can enlighten us by telling what western industry has announced its relocation to an independent Kosovo.
Love that bit about Serbs in south Kosovo live like Dukes. Pure magic. You must be in advertising to come up with that one.
If Kosovo was independent the west would not be wasting time with Belgrade trying to get agreements out of the Serbs – you can only keep fooling yourself, but whatever turns you on.

onlyme

pre 11 godina

I think you misunderstood me when you said it’s a done deal. My point eluded to the fact that comments form Mr Dačič suggest undoing all the progress that UNMIK, KFOR and EULEX have done in establishing rule of law and self-governance by Kosovars. Self-determination, sovereignty and independence are not abstract things, they are continual ongoing processes and struggles that take time.
The West is not trying to make Serbia or Kosovo do anything but merely show the standards and conditions a prosperous nation should adopt if it aspires to be a democratic thriving nation. And not deny others existence like what current Serbian policy is doing to Kosovo. The West is facilitating and sponsoring the negotiations as it’s a mutual interest to strengthen and give back dignity to the whole region. I used that term for south Kosovo Serbs as I sincerely believe that there is nothing hampering their advances as a community with the exception of Belgrade policy which is drawing them backwards by making indirect threats, stalling integration, leaving them frightened in their own homes. I know that some of the Serb community suffers but I sincerely believe that the majority cause is directly due to overall Belgrade policy toward Kosovo (which is complete annihilation and ignorant “you dont exist attitude”).

miles

pre 11 godina

Unfortunately the Americans and Brits were probably listening to their iplayers at the time.

Dacic is wasting his breath on these people. Truth, justice equality and above all facts pale into insignificance when power and profits are at stake.

Thankfully Serbia has China, Russia and India on its side, and they are starting to flex their muscle against the Imperialists.

Time is on her side.

Jovan

pre 11 godina

@ben: no, because there are TWO permanent members with a veto-right. like it or not, but you are doomed to fail.

as for this NGO´s info on Serbs being marked... it only shows that the K-albanian "heroes" who are acting the role of "poletitians" in Priština simply show off their inclination to nazi-methods... well, but who would be surprised, just remember the fathers and grandfathers of todays K-albanians were siding with the Nazi´s.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Kosovo's status was resolved outside the UNSC in line with international law over four years ago - Ian
The status of Kosovo was not resolved outside of the UN. Pristina proclaimed a UDI, which was not illegal in international law, but did not mean that KiM actually at that point became an independent Albanian State. Why is that so hard for some folks to understand? I can proclaim to be the King of Siam tomorrow, it is not illegal, but will people actually bow to me there, is another matter. Sorry, Ian, when KiM gets its own UN seat, then it will the a nation amongst equals - for now, it is still Serbia's southern province, administered by the UN under UNSC resolution 1244. You can ignore the law all you want, but it will not work. How did the Olympic team from the independent nation of KiM do this summer?

Ian, UK

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Kosovo's status was resolved outside the UNSC in line with international law over four years ago and Serbia day-by-day is coming to terms with this but feels the need to drag it out, which is having a negative affect on the daily lives of all Kosovars.

ecoman

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I don't see anything that Dacic said as being inflammatory, out of line. He is simply looking out for the well being of the remaining Serb population in KiM, and the Serbian State's interests. Wow, marking Serb cars with certain license plate numbers/letters - why not just paint a target on the Serb cars? It would be a lot easier for the Albanian snipers and rock throwers to spot. But not be alarmed, the Snake said the Serbs are safe in KiM. He wouldn't lie now, would he? Not a man of his impeccable character.

onlyme

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A lot of 200.000 non-Albanians that fled Kosovo were involved in crimes against Albanians. Some of them were refugees themselves from Bosnia. a present to Kosmet from Slobo. Kosovo government is not doing enough and needs EU support to ensure Kosovars (Serb, Albanian) are returned to their homes.

There is no orchestrated campaign of intimidation. Attacks on Serb community stem from annihilated family members of the war victims oath-ed to pursue revenge but more significantly as a direct result of Serbian government attitude towards Kosovo. Denying Kosovo existence.
Secret service activities are also not excluded considering the killings in Talinovac were of the two humble Serbs living there for years and have been known employees of Kosovo authorities. There are other cold-blooded killing that take place and such murderers must be punished and put to shame. Disagreements aside, when such killings occur most Kosovars are saddened by the news, regardless of what some Serbs might think.

onlyme

pre 11 godina

Nothing new the old schizophrenic policies filled with double standards projecting willingness and flexibility on the surface filled with steel rigid stances at grass root level. Different words for different audiences. I see no improvement with blocking tactics not allowing Kosovo accede to international organisations claiming Yugoslav sovereignty for the Serbian state denying mere existence of Kosovo and its people.
Politically and ethnically motivated smears inciting ethnic segregation in an already segregated Kosovo society, not promoting peace and tolerance in my opinion.
Making anti-Semitic links with disallowed Serb licence plates. This is not good new for anybody in Kosovo. But then will they notice it. It’s music to their ears for one community. blood boiling for the other. This is how we solve problems and do dialogue in the Balkans.

Comm. Parrisson

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"There is no orchestrated campaign of intimidation. Attacks on Serb community stem from annihilated family members of the war victims oath-ed to pursue revenge but more significantly as a direct result of Serbian government attitude towards Kosovo. "
(onlyme, 22 August 2012 16:32)

Yes, there's no orchestrated campaign. Attack on Serbs (which unfortunately even includes murdering them) stems from Kosovo Albanian criminals who usurped property, houses and apartments owned by Serbs and who don't like the legitimate owners to come back or claim their property. Their behavior is encouraged by impunity when it comes to crimes against Serbs.

Momcilo

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Ian..ten years ago there were no Kosovars..there still arent. there are Serbs and Albanians. Use common sense. Its a fake state..where the albanian politicians use that term to the world..in defending an illegal proclamation. go to Kosovo and Metohija..ask twenty people what they are. They will not say kosovar..nor does any albo there want to be called that. they waive albanian flags and call themselves albanians. Us Serbs call ourself Serbs..yet cant waive a Serb flag. because that is considered nationalistic??!! Horrible..so please refrain from using false, unapplicable, and thought up fake terms for people that call themselves and each other everything but that. ALBANIANS SHOULD remain albos..living in the state of Serbia. bottom line.

icj1

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The status of Kosovo was not resolved outside of the UN. Pristina proclaimed a UDI, which was not illegal in international law, but did not mean that KiM actually at that point became an independent Albanian State.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

You are absolutely correct… Kosovo was independent from Serbia since 1999 – didn’t become independent from Serbia in 2008.
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Why is that so hard for some folks to understand? I can proclaim to be the King of Siam tomorrow, it is not illegal
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

That’s debatable. We need to analyze what the international law says about proclaiming to be the King of Siam and then decide whether that’s legal or illegal. Until the ICJ says that proclaiming to be the King of Siam is not illegal under international law, we’ll never know with certainty :)
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but will people actually bow to me there, is another matter.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Bowing or not bowing has nothing to do with declarations of independence.

Ian, UK

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(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Yes Kosovo unilaterally resolved the status and Serbia is starting to accept this. And yes the UDI (aka reading a letter stating their intentions) didn't physically make Kosovo an independent state, the Kosovo Assembly independently assuming lots of powers from the UK which it previously didn't have and independently establishing governmental institutions physically made Kosovo Independent. This is what is known as reality.

Yes a document written in 1999 can say that "Kosovo is administrated by the UN", but it doesn't make it reality; why is that so hard for you to understand?
Kosovo has been functioning as a state for over four years now, having a bloke sitting at the UN won't change things on the ground; things won't be any different. Reality will remain the same. No-one is ignoring law, everything is in line with the law.

I think I might answer your question about the Olympics with a question. How did the non-independent states of Cook Islands, Hong Kong, UK Virgin Isles, US Virgin Isles, Cayman Isles, American Samoa, Puetro Rico ect do at the Olympics?

icj1

pre 11 godina

administered by the UN under UNSC resolution 1244.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Exactly, and thus independent from Serbia since 1999
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You can ignore the law all you want, but it will not work.
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

Indeed, ignoring the law would not work. That’s why KiM declared independence in accordance with international law.
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How did the Olympic team from the independent nation of KiM do this summer?
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 16:51)

The same as it would have done if Kosovo were to be under Serbia… :)

Wayne

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Wow, marking Serb cars with certain license plate numbers/letters - why not just paint a target on the Serb cars?
(ecoman, 22 August 2012 14:29)

Having eg PR or no lincese plate is for sure much better...
Is there a link to that great source available? To me it all sounds Greek:
http://www.diadikasia.gr/0000000000/index.html

some truth for blind folks

pre 11 godina

Timing:
Serbia needs to solve it NOW to get EU. Kosovo is not in rush.

Politics:
Before last elections Kosovo was under pressure to make deals in order to save Tadic coalition. Now they are not!

Economy:
Serbia is in deep crisis. Kosovo is not. Kosovo was already in deep crisis before. Nothing changed in the meantime.

Geopolitic:
Nobody cares to who Serbia belongs. Geographically irrelevant to NATO or to Russia. Serbia is already surrounded from NATO members. Russia needed Serbia only for southstream pipeline and they already got it. All they need will get it for free. Only using veto. For how long?!
Serbia thinks to be the "most relevant factor" in the Balkans. This is only a Serbian dream. Geopolitically important is Bulgaria, Romania, Greece and Turkey. The rest is nothing! Kosovo included. Serbia doesn't have good relationship with any of his neighbors, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia or Hungaria. Just with Bulgaria but it is not considered a friend country. Just acceptable relations. To be the main factor country in the balkans you must have something the others needs. Do you?! What is it?!

Good luck in these talks!

onlyme

pre 11 godina

Dick Marty’s allegations have been so far unfounded, smear propaganda with no hard evidence being put forward
Mr Dačič said to work with Fifth Committee of the GA i.e. Jeremic ensuring additional UN funds to Kosovo, this talk is cheap, tacky, day-dreaming once again showing the secret agenda, the Serb main motive to keep Kosovo segregated and isolated stirring up inter-ethnic friction
According to Mr Dačič the reconfiguration of EULEX is unlawful and there is a need to beef-up the UNMIK presence in the province. What he fails to notice is that UNMIK has been downsizing and working to train/make competent the local government (government of Kosovo) and have been handing power and authority progressively for years
EU mediated agreements are status neutral EULEX status-neutrality was the only route for EULEX to get operational in Kosovo
The reconfiguration of EULEX and downsizing of UNMIK are a disturbing news for the day-dreaming Serb politician hoping to “get Kosovo back”. the only life support for them remains the sovereignty card that most of EU and US disregard as mainly originates from outdated Yugoslav ideology
Serbs need to once and for all wake up from this dreadful dream and accept reality. Serbs in south Kosovo live like Dukes. Kosovo is independent.
Lasting peace is ensured by reconciliation self-governance, law and justice effectively ending one-sided Serb oppression and domination. Normalisation and regional reconciliation is achieved by recognition.

sj

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(onlyme, 23 August 2012 11:40)
You trying too hard to convince yourself that it’s a done deal. Otherwise you would not be leaving your comments on this website nor would the glorious west try “reconciliation” between the Serbs and Kosovo Albanians.
Get this through your extremely thick heads. The EU will not allow Albanians to move freely throughout Europe looking for work so they are trying to open the door to Belgrade. As industry opens up in Serbia, and it is doing just that, the west hopes to get Serbia to allow the Albanian rabble to look for work, but hey I could be wrong and you can enlighten us by telling what western industry has announced its relocation to an independent Kosovo.
Love that bit about Serbs in south Kosovo live like Dukes. Pure magic. You must be in advertising to come up with that one.
If Kosovo was independent the west would not be wasting time with Belgrade trying to get agreements out of the Serbs – you can only keep fooling yourself, but whatever turns you on.

onlyme

pre 11 godina

I think you misunderstood me when you said it’s a done deal. My point eluded to the fact that comments form Mr Dačič suggest undoing all the progress that UNMIK, KFOR and EULEX have done in establishing rule of law and self-governance by Kosovars. Self-determination, sovereignty and independence are not abstract things, they are continual ongoing processes and struggles that take time.
The West is not trying to make Serbia or Kosovo do anything but merely show the standards and conditions a prosperous nation should adopt if it aspires to be a democratic thriving nation. And not deny others existence like what current Serbian policy is doing to Kosovo. The West is facilitating and sponsoring the negotiations as it’s a mutual interest to strengthen and give back dignity to the whole region. I used that term for south Kosovo Serbs as I sincerely believe that there is nothing hampering their advances as a community with the exception of Belgrade policy which is drawing them backwards by making indirect threats, stalling integration, leaving them frightened in their own homes. I know that some of the Serb community suffers but I sincerely believe that the majority cause is directly due to overall Belgrade policy toward Kosovo (which is complete annihilation and ignorant “you dont exist attitude”).

onlyme

pre 11 godina

I found your comments disappointing considering that you come form the same region as I come from yet you hope of stagnation, unemployment, anarchy and miserable living conditions. I think that pretty much sums up the Serb policy towards Kosovo but don’t forget everything is interconnected and somehow in one way or another it affects us all.
I agree about the cost imposed on the EU and that is precisely the reason why the EU and international community is working very hard to complete transition period for supervised independence. So I hope you understand what I mean by this Serb duplicity policy of block and stall on one side and on the other side pleading to the international community not to downsize UNMIK which it has already done. This is not going to work for long and Serbia is losing time by living in denial and Kosovo is tied to it.

justhetruth

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Trust me I have being there live there and walk from there people in the Balkan can't achieve and can't do nothing for they future ,always for them will exist YESTERDAY there is no TOMORROW...I just feel sorry for innocent people no matter ethnicity being victim of the AMATEURS

sj

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(onlyme, 23 August 2012 17:16)
The west is facilitating these talks because it is running out of cash to keep all those rule of law people in Kosovo as it costs about $1 billion per year to keep troops police administrators in that region and Brussels know that if they leave now Kosovo would descend into anarchy. The west wants to allow free movement of Albanians before it explodes in their faces and they get targeted for the miserable living conditions in a free and democratic country.
The Serbs in the South have to be very quiet because the west would turn a blind eye to their expulsion by the Albanians. How could you let these Serbs complain about living conditions when the west has brought Utopia to that region. .
You tell me how many western companies have announced their relocation to Kosovo? NOT ONE!!!!! So how is Kosovo going to prosper? What EU money for ever and a day? Kosovo CANNOT stand on its own two feet so the western clowns want Belgrade to recognize it than allow the Albanians to look for work in Serbia proper and then ask Belgrade to contribute to propping up the Pristina regime, democratically of course.
Belgrade has adopted the best policy towards Pristina resulting in stagnation. I can assure you that the Albanians suffer more than the Serbs in Kosovo as it has up to 80% unemployment and the EU is losing it fight against disintegration of Europe … you can guess what happens next.