Kosovo Serbs request to take part in dialogue

Kosovo Assembly MP Rada Trajković says it is hard for Kosovo Serbs to take part in the talks with the platform offered by Kosovo leaders bearing in mind that they do not agree on many things. She added that it was therefore necessary to reach an agreement between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo first.

Trajković said that Serbs should take part in the dialogue in order to ensure their survival in Kosovo.

“Serbs from Kosovo and Metohija should primarily take care of the interests of Serbs and solutions that will allow a functional and permanent survival in these parts,” she explained.

Rada is right, bc, K-Serbs should address all their problems towards Prishtina and not Belgrade. Belgarde boot is long gone and is out of the reach of Prishtina.

They should be part of the dialogue but in talks between North Kosovo and Pristina, not between Belgrade and Pristina.

So basically serbs are telling belgrade that it isn't/doesn't represent them.

As far as the talks -- these are at state level between Kosovo-Serbia. If we ever have some sort of reconciliation talks between our nations of people then yes you can be involved.

Sincerely,

" it was therefore necessary to reach an agreement between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo first. "

I quite like this. K-Serbs are Kosovars just as K-Albanians. They need to solve their issues at home before talking to neighbours.

"Representatives of Kosovo Serbs believe they should take part in the announced political talks between Belgrade and Priština, Radio Free Europe has reported. They claim that they would that way prevent solutions that would cause them even bigger problems from being reached"

I'm perplexed... the traitorous government of Tadic is no longer in power so what's their concern ?!

"As far as the talks -- these are at state level between Kosovo-Serbia. If we ever have some sort of reconciliation talks between our nations of people then yes you can be involved. "
(KOSO, 19 August 2012 15:42)

How can these talks be 'state level' when Kosovo is not a state? This is obvious for everyone! Ever wondered why these talks are officially called 'Belgrade-Pristina dialogue' and not 'Serbia-Kosovo dialogue'? Think about it :)

(little hint: it's like with the * = without prejudice to the status)

This is fine as long as the Albanians of Preševo Valley are included in the talks as I assume territory swapping will be involved.

Ever wondered why these talks are officially called 'Belgrade-Pristina dialogue' and not 'Serbia-Kosovo dialogue'? Think about it :)

They chose to go based on their capital cities rather than States.
Is that too hard for you to comprehend? Think About it.

You ARI and PEGGY, whenever you guys post any comments, they're usually too funny to miss.

How can these talks be 'state level' when Kosovo is not a state? This is obvious for everyone! Ever wondered why these talks are officially called 'Belgrade-Pristina dialogue' and not 'Serbia-Kosovo dialogue'? Think about it :)

(little hint: it's like with the * = without prejudice to the status)
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 August 2012 20:26)

If Kosova is not a state than Serbia is not state for sure. Do you know another state in the world that can not build it's institutions or exercize it's authority or to simplify to send a single police in 15% of it's territory?
Be sure tha Serbia is a state before you say Kosova is not a state :)

K Serbs should hold a dialogue with Belgrade Serbs on who should hold a dialogue with Prishtina.
Just make up your mind already, one way or another and move on.

Dori, Serbia is a state whose southern province is under international occupation. Hungarian parts of Transylvania are still in Romania
(Anonymoose, 20 August 2012 12:57)
Dear you are too confused, international occupation!!! International agreements!!! Hungarian parts…Transylvania…Vojvodina!!!.
You are trying to enter in a debate when you don’t have arguments.
I have a lot of arguments, but I put only one.
Kosova is in situation that is today after 1 century of Apartheid regime(the regime when minority colonize and rule the majority with a military oppression) . Milosevic (the last Serb Apartheid) didn’t succeed and lose the war and the territory. The ethnic composition of Kosova has two option a) apartheid build by 5 % Serb minority b) or democracy build from 95 % Albanian majority. Which one you prefer? I prefer the second one.

They should be part of the dialogue but in talks between North Kosovo and Pristina, not between Belgrade and Pristina.
(a New Day, 19 August 2012 19:31)

Completely agree. Though that this point if you're pro-"Kosova" you might want Belgrade to be calling the shots since they'd more likely than not sell the K-Serb population up the river for a few concessions. Deal with northern Mitrovica or Gracanica directly and Pristina's got a far larger headache :)

Let me guess, the conference will be held in Munich, too.

Completely agree. Though that this point if you're pro-"Kosova" you might want Belgrade to be calling the shots since they'd more likely than not sell the K-Serb population up the river for a few concessions. Deal with northern Mitrovica or Gracanica directly and Pristina's got a far larger headache :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 August 2012 01:30)
Maybe, maybe not. I am not saying that the talks between Belgrade and Pristina should not proceed, I am just saying that adding North Kosovo as a third party is not wise in the fact the only reason they want to go is to BLOCK all agreements which is neither in the interest of Belgrade nor Pristina.
A separate set of talks between the representatives of North Kosovo and Pristina would be a beginning, headache yes, but actually less of one than today.

Dori, Serbia is a state whose southern province is under international occupation. Hungarian parts of Transylvania are still in Romania, doesn't mean that Hungary is not a state. Kosovo is not a state because international agreements, made with the same people who occupy Serbia's southern province, explicitly state that Kosovo is a province within Serbia. Serbia is also a member of the UN in which member states are guaranteed that their territorial integrity well be respected. That isn't to say Kosovo shouldn't have autonomy and joint serb and Albanian structures, equal rights, etc but you cannot throw out international law and due process if you expect to be a state and recognized as such by the very community you are trying to snub to ram through this UDI

Logical thinking when they concerned, should be involved in negotiations!

You are trying to enter in a debate when you don’t have arguments.
[...]
The ethnic composition of Kosova has two option a) apartheid build by 5 % Serb minority b) or democracy build from 95 % Albanian majority. Which one you prefer? I prefer the second one.
(dori tirana, 20 August 2012 16:49)

I'm debunking your argument that Serbia is not a state because it does not have full control over its occupied southern province of Kosovo. It was you who is making the claim.

And how did that ethnic composition come to be, I wonder? Albanians lost jobs in the 90s due to prejudiced policies to preserve the jobs of Serbs during the economic sanctions against Serbia, forced to flee the conflict of the late 90s, but Serbs have been driven out for decades by Albanians. Albanians beat the elderly, set Serb houses on fire and murder returnees now that they are in control. It's ethnic cleansing, just officially sanctioned by NATO and the EU. 99% Albanian and 1% other is acceptable for EU standards of "multi-ethnic".

I prefer a Kosovo that operates within the confines of international law and lives up to UNSC resolution 1244, allowing for returnees to return safely and for an agreed upon number of Serbian police to return to Kosovo as part of a multi-ethnic Kosovo police force in an autonomous province of Kosovo.

Dori, since you're very adamant that kosovo's udi from is unique, then it would not make sense to compare Serbia to other states as this uniqueness you speak of explicitly invokes Serbia.
So since Serbia is internationally recognized by the all international political, sporting, banking and criminal organizations where as Kosovo is not, it leads one to a clear conclusion that is contrary to your opinion, one might just conclude your opinions as useless, wrong or intended to inflame.

"but you cannot throw out international law and due process if you expect to be a state and recognized as such..."

Are you referring to Serbia in 1998-9?

So basically serbs are telling belgrade that it isn't/doesn't represent them.

As far as the talks -- these are at state level between Kosovo-Serbia. If we ever have some sort of reconciliation talks between our nations of people then yes you can be involved.

Sincerely,

They should be part of the dialogue but in talks between North Kosovo and Pristina, not between Belgrade and Pristina.

Kosovo Assembly MP Rada Trajković says it is hard for Kosovo Serbs to take part in the talks with the platform offered by Kosovo leaders bearing in mind that they do not agree on many things. She added that it was therefore necessary to reach an agreement between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo first.

Trajković said that Serbs should take part in the dialogue in order to ensure their survival in Kosovo.

“Serbs from Kosovo and Metohija should primarily take care of the interests of Serbs and solutions that will allow a functional and permanent survival in these parts,” she explained.

Rada is right, bc, K-Serbs should address all their problems towards Prishtina and not Belgrade. Belgarde boot is long gone and is out of the reach of Prishtina.

"As far as the talks -- these are at state level between Kosovo-Serbia. If we ever have some sort of reconciliation talks between our nations of people then yes you can be involved. "
(KOSO, 19 August 2012 15:42)

How can these talks be 'state level' when Kosovo is not a state? This is obvious for everyone! Ever wondered why these talks are officially called 'Belgrade-Pristina dialogue' and not 'Serbia-Kosovo dialogue'? Think about it :)

(little hint: it's like with the * = without prejudice to the status)

" it was therefore necessary to reach an agreement between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo first. "

I quite like this. K-Serbs are Kosovars just as K-Albanians. They need to solve their issues at home before talking to neighbours.

"Representatives of Kosovo Serbs believe they should take part in the announced political talks between Belgrade and Priština, Radio Free Europe has reported. They claim that they would that way prevent solutions that would cause them even bigger problems from being reached"

I'm perplexed... the traitorous government of Tadic is no longer in power so what's their concern ?!

Dori, Serbia is a state whose southern province is under international occupation. Hungarian parts of Transylvania are still in Romania, doesn't mean that Hungary is not a state. Kosovo is not a state because international agreements, made with the same people who occupy Serbia's southern province, explicitly state that Kosovo is a province within Serbia. Serbia is also a member of the UN in which member states are guaranteed that their territorial integrity well be respected. That isn't to say Kosovo shouldn't have autonomy and joint serb and Albanian structures, equal rights, etc but you cannot throw out international law and due process if you expect to be a state and recognized as such by the very community you are trying to snub to ram through this UDI

This is fine as long as the Albanians of Preševo Valley are included in the talks as I assume territory swapping will be involved.

Dori, Serbia is a state whose southern province is under international occupation. Hungarian parts of Transylvania are still in Romania
(Anonymoose, 20 August 2012 12:57)
Dear you are too confused, international occupation!!! International agreements!!! Hungarian parts…Transylvania…Vojvodina!!!.
You are trying to enter in a debate when you don’t have arguments.
I have a lot of arguments, but I put only one.
Kosova is in situation that is today after 1 century of Apartheid regime(the regime when minority colonize and rule the majority with a military oppression) . Milosevic (the last Serb Apartheid) didn’t succeed and lose the war and the territory. The ethnic composition of Kosova has two option a) apartheid build by 5 % Serb minority b) or democracy build from 95 % Albanian majority. Which one you prefer? I prefer the second one.

They should be part of the dialogue but in talks between North Kosovo and Pristina, not between Belgrade and Pristina.
(a New Day, 19 August 2012 19:31)

Completely agree. Though that this point if you're pro-"Kosova" you might want Belgrade to be calling the shots since they'd more likely than not sell the K-Serb population up the river for a few concessions. Deal with northern Mitrovica or Gracanica directly and Pristina's got a far larger headache :)

How can these talks be 'state level' when Kosovo is not a state? This is obvious for everyone! Ever wondered why these talks are officially called 'Belgrade-Pristina dialogue' and not 'Serbia-Kosovo dialogue'? Think about it :)

(little hint: it's like with the * = without prejudice to the status)
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 August 2012 20:26)

If Kosova is not a state than Serbia is not state for sure. Do you know another state in the world that can not build it's institutions or exercize it's authority or to simplify to send a single police in 15% of it's territory?
Be sure tha Serbia is a state before you say Kosova is not a state :)

Logical thinking when they concerned, should be involved in negotiations!

Let me guess, the conference will be held in Munich, too.

Ever wondered why these talks are officially called 'Belgrade-Pristina dialogue' and not 'Serbia-Kosovo dialogue'? Think about it :)

They chose to go based on their capital cities rather than States.
Is that too hard for you to comprehend? Think About it.

You ARI and PEGGY, whenever you guys post any comments, they're usually too funny to miss.

K Serbs should hold a dialogue with Belgrade Serbs on who should hold a dialogue with Prishtina.
Just make up your mind already, one way or another and move on.

Completely agree. Though that this point if you're pro-"Kosova" you might want Belgrade to be calling the shots since they'd more likely than not sell the K-Serb population up the river for a few concessions. Deal with northern Mitrovica or Gracanica directly and Pristina's got a far larger headache :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 August 2012 01:30)
Maybe, maybe not. I am not saying that the talks between Belgrade and Pristina should not proceed, I am just saying that adding North Kosovo as a third party is not wise in the fact the only reason they want to go is to BLOCK all agreements which is neither in the interest of Belgrade nor Pristina.
A separate set of talks between the representatives of North Kosovo and Pristina would be a beginning, headache yes, but actually less of one than today.

You are trying to enter in a debate when you don’t have arguments.
[...]
The ethnic composition of Kosova has two option a) apartheid build by 5 % Serb minority b) or democracy build from 95 % Albanian majority. Which one you prefer? I prefer the second one.
(dori tirana, 20 August 2012 16:49)

I'm debunking your argument that Serbia is not a state because it does not have full control over its occupied southern province of Kosovo. It was you who is making the claim.

And how did that ethnic composition come to be, I wonder? Albanians lost jobs in the 90s due to prejudiced policies to preserve the jobs of Serbs during the economic sanctions against Serbia, forced to flee the conflict of the late 90s, but Serbs have been driven out for decades by Albanians. Albanians beat the elderly, set Serb houses on fire and murder returnees now that they are in control. It's ethnic cleansing, just officially sanctioned by NATO and the EU. 99% Albanian and 1% other is acceptable for EU standards of "multi-ethnic".

I prefer a Kosovo that operates within the confines of international law and lives up to UNSC resolution 1244, allowing for returnees to return safely and for an agreed upon number of Serbian police to return to Kosovo as part of a multi-ethnic Kosovo police force in an autonomous province of Kosovo.

Dori, since you're very adamant that kosovo's udi from is unique, then it would not make sense to compare Serbia to other states as this uniqueness you speak of explicitly invokes Serbia.
So since Serbia is internationally recognized by the all international political, sporting, banking and criminal organizations where as Kosovo is not, it leads one to a clear conclusion that is contrary to your opinion, one might just conclude your opinions as useless, wrong or intended to inflame.

"but you cannot throw out international law and due process if you expect to be a state and recognized as such..."

Are you referring to Serbia in 1998-9?