"Serbian institutions will remain in Kosovo"

Adrian, negotiations does not mean making all concessions to one side, and nothing for the other. The Serbs in N. KiM do not recognize the authority from Pristina, and want to govern themselves. Albanians wanted independence from Belgrade, I think the majority Serbs in the North deserve the same privilege, don't you? Since you enjoy name calling, do you possibly think there may be some cretins in Pristina? Let's be fair, and look at both sides objectively. The Kosovo Albanians have not made any real compromises, have they? They simply stand behind the aprons of their Western backers, and shout give me, give me.

Thank God limp Tadic is gone. I like the tone of this new government. I'm not expecting everything to go our way but negotiating with a backbone means we'll go a lot further.

What Tadic did was just one huge sell-out. Lets hope he is now history and that the DS clean up their act and remove that traitor. Also, lets see if SuNATOvac gets done for corruption as he surely should. Serbia needs to dump the rubbish and to show those fools who voted for it what a mistake they made.

I guess the best way to defent is to offend! I can't see how by appointing this cretin will help in any shape or form to reach an agreement between KS and SRB.

Thank God limp Tadic is gone. I like the tone of this new government. I'm not expecting everything to go our way but negotiating with a backbone means we'll go a lot further.
(Zoran,2 August 2012 13:02)

I like the tone of this government too. With Serbian people like him and like Milloshevic Albanian cause is secure.

That is why it is so important that EU must listen president Ahtisairi's advise to openly and officially condition Serbia's bid to join EU or Russia. Serbia with current leadersip is a threat to stability in the Balkans.

Adrian, negotiations does not mean making all concessions to one side, and nothing for the other. The Serbs in N. KiM do not recognize the authority from Pristina, and want to govern themselves. Albanians wanted independence from Belgrade, I think the majority Serbs in the North deserve the same privilege, don't you? Since you enjoy name calling, do you possibly think there may be some cretins in Pristina? Let's be fair, and look at both sides objectively. The Kosovo Albanians have not made any real compromises, have they? They simply stand behind the aprons of their Western backers, and shout give me, give me.
(ecoman, 2 August 2012 12:51)

Be real first. The Serbs in the north cant have independence because the Serb constitution prohibits it. It's one of those deals where you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Plenty of compromises we have done. Of course withe west since talking with the Serbs is as effective as talking to a wall. For example, we gave up unification with Albania. We agreed to be governed by the west for a period of time before those authorities are transferred to us. We could have been suicidal like the Serbs and stay strong about an all or nothing deal. As a society we're more flexible, while you are hardcore myth believers.

...I cannot change the Constitution. The Constitution and laws oblige us to organize the elections in the entire territory of Serbia. It says clearly that the province of Kosovo and Metohija is an integral part of Serbia’s territory and that obligations of all state organs stem from that position,” the Office for Kosovo head pointed out....

I totally agree with u,if u would have asked the opinion of people of Kosova when u made the Constitution.Their opinion was ingored.So your claim is false.

According to B92 Serbia's public debt is 54.7% of GDP at end of June 2012. However, this debt at the and of 2011 45.1 percent of GDP.

Now figure this yourself, before you finance obsolete institutions in Kosovo.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/business-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=08&dd=01&nav_id=81568

@ ecoman

Well you obviously haven't really been following what's been happening in the past 3 years of 'negotiations' between KS and SRB.
Pristina has made numerous upsettin concessions (thanks to cretins in Pristina, yes I agree with you that we have cretins too, probably even more than Belgrade!)starting from the humiliating way in which Kosova will be represented in international meetings: with an asterix to its name just to avoid offending countries who do not recognize its independence!!!
Not to mention other mindless concessions regarding cadastral matters; missing individuals from the war; etc etc!

Commenting on the fact that influential Western states were asking Belgrade to abolish its institutions in Kosovo, Vulin said that the Serbian Constitution clearly defined Kosovo as a part of the state.

So, you are The man that will never be able to step a foot on Prishtina. What position are you holding, again?
Even your VS can not give you a ride to Kosova.

here we go again, another mini-milosevic at the helm of the throne
when will the Serbs wake up from this dreadful dream
they want legitimacy over a nation they've massacred
we go nowhere with this stance
and the worste thing is that he is supported
that tells you how much Serbian policies have changed since Slobo was here

Holy superhero, a man with balls! Who is this guy Batman?

It is as if some of these Serb politicians have selective hearing and selective sight. wake up and smell the roses. smell the new reality. when will Serbia learn that the years of war, domination and one-race supremacy are long gone. Now it's all about democracy, tolerance, multiculturalism, integration, respecting your neighbours. Otherwise you're free to start the Yugoslav wars all over again.

Ardi, please stop sounding so tough, while standing behind the apron of KFOR. Serbia understands that KFOR will not allow Serbian politicians to enter much of Kosovo, as it would be an extreme security issue. There are more important issues to address in this conflict between Belgrade and Pristina, than setting foot in Albanian dominated parts of KiM. How about if KFOR left tomorrow, would you still be so tough, Ardi?
(ecoman, 2 August 2012 18:44)

Wrong once again. It is not KFOR, but rather Kosova government that gives orders to KFOR and KP.

“There are parallel institutions in Kosovo but they are funded by Priština and not by Belgrade. For us, there are only legal Serbian institutions and they will not be abolished,” Vulin told weekly Vreme.

Well said, and about time someone said it. But to be fair, these legitimate institutions are going to have to be funded and properly maintained. Saying it doesn't do anything since the previous government out all their weight only behind the north and left the areas south of the Ibar adrift.

Ardi, please stop sounding so tough, while standing behind the apron of KFOR. Serbia understands that KFOR will not allow Serbian politicians to enter much of Kosovo, as it would be an extreme security issue. There are more important issues to address in this conflict between Belgrade and Pristina, than setting foot in Albanian dominated parts of KiM. How about if KFOR left tomorrow, would you still be so tough, Ardi?

This is the only way serbs will be able to remain in Kosovo. At least in the north serbs are pretty much left alone. Here we don't have to read about attacks on serbs or their property. Should they integrate it will be as it is in the south. Sad but true. There are individual albanians who are ok but as a whole, I'm sorry to say, but they are not ready to run a society by democratic means. Attacks on serbs 13 years after the war ended are so frequent that at times you think the war is still on.

"Be real first. The Serbs in the north cant have independence because the Serb constitution prohibits it". - J
J, maybe you haven't been following what the Serbs in N. KiM have been saying since Pristina's UDI. They do not want independence from Serbia, they are a part of Serbia. They simply do not accept any kind of authority from Pristina, as they do not recognize them at all. I think all of that falls in line with the Serbian constitution. Please stop acting dumb, or are you acting?

“I never said it would be easy. It is not pleasant. But it is the only possibility. I cannot change the Constitution. The Constitution and laws oblige us to organize the elections in the entire territory of Serbia. It says clearly that the province of Kosovo and Metohija is an integral part of Serbia’s territory and that obligations of all state organs stem from that position,” the Office for Kosovo head pointed out.

Well, the Serbian constitution didn't say that until several years ago. If Serbia changed it once, they can change it again! Constitutions can and should be changed to remain relevant in a constantly changing world.

Constitutions can and should be changed to remain relevant in a constantly changing world.
(Glenn, 3 August 2012 14:25)

Well, that does not apply to Serbia... they like to be in 1389 there :)

" The Constitution and laws oblige us to organize the elections in the entire territory of Serbia. It says clearly that the province of Kosovo and Metohija is an integral part of Serbia’s territory and that obligations of all state organs stem from that position,” the Office for Kosovo head pointed out."

Well, the head of the office is still a novice and has not been informed yet that what Serbia's or Zimbabwe's Constitution says about Kosovo is irrelevant. There is a Resolution with number 1244 that the UNSC approved in 1999 that governs Kosovo, not the Constitution of any country. It's UNMIK which decides when legal elections are held for Kosovo in accordance with 1244 (of course, the diaspora of other countries is free to vote for the national elections of those countries as they did earlier in the year).

It is sad how the goverment in serbia make false statments like this the reality on the ground is diferent there are not such as serbian istitutions since 1999 in kosovo exept some thugs in north, anyone who want to see for themselves they are welcome to visit.

well, it is not only the constitution of course, history, international law, and even moral values are on Serbia´s side when it comes to southern Serbia.

so, all our dear k-albanian friends can do is barking a while, like the dogs in downtown-priština, but that´s it in the essence, since they are only lapdogs of the US.

and dogs tend to bark quite loud, if they feel secure behind a fence...

Attacks on serbs 13 years after the war ended are so frequent that at times you think the war is still on.
(MikeC, 2 August 2012 22:02)


MikeC,

As far as the Serbs are concerned, the war is still on.(See some of your own previous comments.) Just as negotiations are still on, also, as far as the Serbs are concerned, but no one else. Like any outcome that the Serbs are dissatisfied with, they always fantasize that the outcome of any event can somehow be changed.

That is why it is so important that EU must listen president Ahtisairi's advise to openly and officially condition Serbia's bid to join EU or Russia. Serbia with current leadersip is a threat to stability in the Balkans.

I guess the best way to defent is to offend! I can't see how by appointing this cretin will help in any shape or form to reach an agreement between KS and SRB.

Adrian, negotiations does not mean making all concessions to one side, and nothing for the other. The Serbs in N. KiM do not recognize the authority from Pristina, and want to govern themselves. Albanians wanted independence from Belgrade, I think the majority Serbs in the North deserve the same privilege, don't you? Since you enjoy name calling, do you possibly think there may be some cretins in Pristina? Let's be fair, and look at both sides objectively. The Kosovo Albanians have not made any real compromises, have they? They simply stand behind the aprons of their Western backers, and shout give me, give me.
(ecoman, 2 August 2012 12:51)

Be real first. The Serbs in the north cant have independence because the Serb constitution prohibits it. It's one of those deals where you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Plenty of compromises we have done. Of course withe west since talking with the Serbs is as effective as talking to a wall. For example, we gave up unification with Albania. We agreed to be governed by the west for a period of time before those authorities are transferred to us. We could have been suicidal like the Serbs and stay strong about an all or nothing deal. As a society we're more flexible, while you are hardcore myth believers.

here we go again, another mini-milosevic at the helm of the throne
when will the Serbs wake up from this dreadful dream
they want legitimacy over a nation they've massacred
we go nowhere with this stance
and the worste thing is that he is supported
that tells you how much Serbian policies have changed since Slobo was here

Thank God limp Tadic is gone. I like the tone of this new government. I'm not expecting everything to go our way but negotiating with a backbone means we'll go a lot further.

What Tadic did was just one huge sell-out. Lets hope he is now history and that the DS clean up their act and remove that traitor. Also, lets see if SuNATOvac gets done for corruption as he surely should. Serbia needs to dump the rubbish and to show those fools who voted for it what a mistake they made.

Thank God limp Tadic is gone. I like the tone of this new government. I'm not expecting everything to go our way but negotiating with a backbone means we'll go a lot further.
(Zoran,2 August 2012 13:02)

I like the tone of this government too. With Serbian people like him and like Milloshevic Albanian cause is secure.

...I cannot change the Constitution. The Constitution and laws oblige us to organize the elections in the entire territory of Serbia. It says clearly that the province of Kosovo and Metohija is an integral part of Serbia’s territory and that obligations of all state organs stem from that position,” the Office for Kosovo head pointed out....

I totally agree with u,if u would have asked the opinion of people of Kosova when u made the Constitution.Their opinion was ingored.So your claim is false.

Adrian, negotiations does not mean making all concessions to one side, and nothing for the other. The Serbs in N. KiM do not recognize the authority from Pristina, and want to govern themselves. Albanians wanted independence from Belgrade, I think the majority Serbs in the North deserve the same privilege, don't you? Since you enjoy name calling, do you possibly think there may be some cretins in Pristina? Let's be fair, and look at both sides objectively. The Kosovo Albanians have not made any real compromises, have they? They simply stand behind the aprons of their Western backers, and shout give me, give me.

According to B92 Serbia's public debt is 54.7% of GDP at end of June 2012. However, this debt at the and of 2011 45.1 percent of GDP.

Now figure this yourself, before you finance obsolete institutions in Kosovo.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/business-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=08&dd=01&nav_id=81568

Ardi, please stop sounding so tough, while standing behind the apron of KFOR. Serbia understands that KFOR will not allow Serbian politicians to enter much of Kosovo, as it would be an extreme security issue. There are more important issues to address in this conflict between Belgrade and Pristina, than setting foot in Albanian dominated parts of KiM. How about if KFOR left tomorrow, would you still be so tough, Ardi?
(ecoman, 2 August 2012 18:44)

Wrong once again. It is not KFOR, but rather Kosova government that gives orders to KFOR and KP.

@ ecoman

Well you obviously haven't really been following what's been happening in the past 3 years of 'negotiations' between KS and SRB.
Pristina has made numerous upsettin concessions (thanks to cretins in Pristina, yes I agree with you that we have cretins too, probably even more than Belgrade!)starting from the humiliating way in which Kosova will be represented in international meetings: with an asterix to its name just to avoid offending countries who do not recognize its independence!!!
Not to mention other mindless concessions regarding cadastral matters; missing individuals from the war; etc etc!

Ardi, please stop sounding so tough, while standing behind the apron of KFOR. Serbia understands that KFOR will not allow Serbian politicians to enter much of Kosovo, as it would be an extreme security issue. There are more important issues to address in this conflict between Belgrade and Pristina, than setting foot in Albanian dominated parts of KiM. How about if KFOR left tomorrow, would you still be so tough, Ardi?

Holy superhero, a man with balls! Who is this guy Batman?

This is the only way serbs will be able to remain in Kosovo. At least in the north serbs are pretty much left alone. Here we don't have to read about attacks on serbs or their property. Should they integrate it will be as it is in the south. Sad but true. There are individual albanians who are ok but as a whole, I'm sorry to say, but they are not ready to run a society by democratic means. Attacks on serbs 13 years after the war ended are so frequent that at times you think the war is still on.

“There are parallel institutions in Kosovo but they are funded by Priština and not by Belgrade. For us, there are only legal Serbian institutions and they will not be abolished,” Vulin told weekly Vreme.

Well said, and about time someone said it. But to be fair, these legitimate institutions are going to have to be funded and properly maintained. Saying it doesn't do anything since the previous government out all their weight only behind the north and left the areas south of the Ibar adrift.

"Be real first. The Serbs in the north cant have independence because the Serb constitution prohibits it". - J
J, maybe you haven't been following what the Serbs in N. KiM have been saying since Pristina's UDI. They do not want independence from Serbia, they are a part of Serbia. They simply do not accept any kind of authority from Pristina, as they do not recognize them at all. I think all of that falls in line with the Serbian constitution. Please stop acting dumb, or are you acting?

Commenting on the fact that influential Western states were asking Belgrade to abolish its institutions in Kosovo, Vulin said that the Serbian Constitution clearly defined Kosovo as a part of the state.

So, you are The man that will never be able to step a foot on Prishtina. What position are you holding, again?
Even your VS can not give you a ride to Kosova.

It is as if some of these Serb politicians have selective hearing and selective sight. wake up and smell the roses. smell the new reality. when will Serbia learn that the years of war, domination and one-race supremacy are long gone. Now it's all about democracy, tolerance, multiculturalism, integration, respecting your neighbours. Otherwise you're free to start the Yugoslav wars all over again.

" The Constitution and laws oblige us to organize the elections in the entire territory of Serbia. It says clearly that the province of Kosovo and Metohija is an integral part of Serbia’s territory and that obligations of all state organs stem from that position,” the Office for Kosovo head pointed out."

Well, the head of the office is still a novice and has not been informed yet that what Serbia's or Zimbabwe's Constitution says about Kosovo is irrelevant. There is a Resolution with number 1244 that the UNSC approved in 1999 that governs Kosovo, not the Constitution of any country. It's UNMIK which decides when legal elections are held for Kosovo in accordance with 1244 (of course, the diaspora of other countries is free to vote for the national elections of those countries as they did earlier in the year).

“I never said it would be easy. It is not pleasant. But it is the only possibility. I cannot change the Constitution. The Constitution and laws oblige us to organize the elections in the entire territory of Serbia. It says clearly that the province of Kosovo and Metohija is an integral part of Serbia’s territory and that obligations of all state organs stem from that position,” the Office for Kosovo head pointed out.

Well, the Serbian constitution didn't say that until several years ago. If Serbia changed it once, they can change it again! Constitutions can and should be changed to remain relevant in a constantly changing world.

well, it is not only the constitution of course, history, international law, and even moral values are on Serbia´s side when it comes to southern Serbia.

so, all our dear k-albanian friends can do is barking a while, like the dogs in downtown-priština, but that´s it in the essence, since they are only lapdogs of the US.

and dogs tend to bark quite loud, if they feel secure behind a fence...

It is sad how the goverment in serbia make false statments like this the reality on the ground is diferent there are not such as serbian istitutions since 1999 in kosovo exept some thugs in north, anyone who want to see for themselves they are welcome to visit.

Constitutions can and should be changed to remain relevant in a constantly changing world.
(Glenn, 3 August 2012 14:25)

Well, that does not apply to Serbia... they like to be in 1389 there :)

Attacks on serbs 13 years after the war ended are so frequent that at times you think the war is still on.
(MikeC, 2 August 2012 22:02)


MikeC,

As far as the Serbs are concerned, the war is still on.(See some of your own previous comments.) Just as negotiations are still on, also, as far as the Serbs are concerned, but no one else. Like any outcome that the Serbs are dissatisfied with, they always fantasize that the outcome of any event can somehow be changed.