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Sunday, 29.07.2012.

12:28

“Irish-English settlement may offer model for Kosovo”

Elements of the Irish-English settlement may offer a model for how a Kosovo-Serbia deal might be made, says ex-UN Representative in Kosovo Gerard Gallucci.

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choke on your tears

pre 11 godina

How have all those 'other' plans by Serbs and their friends worked so far?
(cry me a river, 29 July 2012 15:06)

all being planned. and when an ultimatum is put in front of thaci to sign, he'll do it. whether its the two germanies model, the brcko model, the south tyrol model, or the serbia-kosovo federation model. kosovo is going nowhere as long as it stubbornly refuses to compromise.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

I meant to write: In America, the Democrats could easily not only just lose, but be decimated, and America would be wise to scrap the Kumanovo agreement, and Germany would be wise to otder its Puppet of Lithuania to implement the SAA Agreement.

One of Highest Principles of Democracy is that a new Parliament is not bound by what the Old Parliament did.

This is the Principle that Validates the New Parliament to shelve, amend, or bin the Tadic Agreement, and if Seebia joibs the European Union, it Will Be on Serbia’s Terms and Conditions.

Mark

pre 11 godina

“Ireland won its independence but initially remained associated with the British crown. The Protestant majority in Northern Ireland was allowed to opt out of independent Ireland and remain part of Great Britain. The Republic of Ireland maintained a claim on the north for some decades and still has its tricolor flag that includes orange for the Protestants,”

So Kosovo is Ireland and Presevo Valley is Northern Ireland. There is nothing to solve.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Ironically, the same kind of nasty behavior and attitude of the Serbs was the reason for the current situation of having no control over Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 July 2012 14:26)
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Not to worry Commie, we had the same attitude against the NAZIs and their partners in crime (Albanians) but still came out victorious. And you are correct, we have the same attitude against the NATO death machine and partners in crime (Albanians). Nothing has changed.

Anyway, what some people seem to forget is that Northern Ireland and the whole of the UK suffered decades of instability and terrorist attacks. Even to this day the peace is shaky. It doesn't seem like a good model to me.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

The Olympics are on are the moment, amd thr American Election Canpaign is on at the moment, and this is the time to put the the Tadic Agreement in the bin.

It is best to write to the United Nations, Obama and Merkel, and to the Kosovo Albanian Leadership, and keep writing to them until you get an answer from them in writing.

In America, the Democrats could easily boy only just lose, but be Decimated, and they wouyld be wise to scrap the Kumanovo agreement, and Fwermany would be eise to otder its Puppet of Lithuania to implement the Saa Agreement.

Serbia would be wise not to waste any time, and to do what I suggest as soon as possible, because this Opportunity will not ne here long with the Olympics, and the American Election, and the Written Record set up for the next German Election.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"But you wouldn't even accept North Kosovo something you cannot ever control to be on the table.

This type of nasty behavior and overvaluing your worth to the West is exactly what will leave you with 0% of sovereignty over Kosovo i Metohija when your sponsors go home."
(Ari Gold, 29 July 2012 12:49)

Ironically, the same kind of nasty behavior and attitude of the Serbs was the reason for the current situation of having no control over Kosovo.

Reader

pre 11 godina

Oh another so-called model from another place. Take some event, call it a model and try to sell it without regard of its context. I personally like the Serbian-Ottoman Empire model better. Full independence without losing time with 'over my dead body' politicians.

T

pre 11 godina

The solution lies in compromise which is why I like this plan.
But can reasoning and logic prevail over stubbornness and foolish pride?
I guess time will tell.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

According to Gallucci, this suggests the outlines for a possible agreement between Serbia and Kosovo: Serbian recognition of the independence of Kosovo as an associated state and Kosovo acceptance of the north opting out of its independence to remain part of Serbia.

I'd agree to this (for the sake of peace not because you guys deserve even an inch of sovereignty over any part of Serbia) if you added Strpce, Gracanica and possibly one more enclave and special status for monasteries.

North Kosovo is not a compromise. That is a part Pristina does not have the physical capacity to ever control. You simply are not strong enough and will never be. The West is clearly not willing to commit a genocide of 40,000 Serbs for your sick dreams and again I repeat you are not strong enough too.

But you wouldn't even accept North Kosovo something you cannot ever control to be on the table.

This type of nasty behavior and overvaluing your worth to the West is exactly what will leave you with 0% of sovereignty over Kosovo i Metohija when your sponsors go home.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

According to Gallucci, this suggests the outlines for a possible agreement between Serbia and Kosovo: Serbian recognition of the independence of Kosovo as an associated state and Kosovo acceptance of the north opting out of its independence to remain part of Serbia.

I'd agree to this (for the sake of peace not because you guys deserve even an inch of sovereignty over any part of Serbia) if you added Strpce, Gracanica and possibly one more enclave and special status for monasteries.

North Kosovo is not a compromise. That is a part Pristina does not have the physical capacity to ever control. You simply are not strong enough and will never be. The West is clearly not willing to commit a genocide of 40,000 Serbs for your sick dreams and again I repeat you are not strong enough too.

But you wouldn't even accept North Kosovo something you cannot ever control to be on the table.

This type of nasty behavior and overvaluing your worth to the West is exactly what will leave you with 0% of sovereignty over Kosovo i Metohija when your sponsors go home.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Ironically, the same kind of nasty behavior and attitude of the Serbs was the reason for the current situation of having no control over Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 July 2012 14:26)
--
Not to worry Commie, we had the same attitude against the NAZIs and their partners in crime (Albanians) but still came out victorious. And you are correct, we have the same attitude against the NATO death machine and partners in crime (Albanians). Nothing has changed.

Anyway, what some people seem to forget is that Northern Ireland and the whole of the UK suffered decades of instability and terrorist attacks. Even to this day the peace is shaky. It doesn't seem like a good model to me.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"But you wouldn't even accept North Kosovo something you cannot ever control to be on the table.

This type of nasty behavior and overvaluing your worth to the West is exactly what will leave you with 0% of sovereignty over Kosovo i Metohija when your sponsors go home."
(Ari Gold, 29 July 2012 12:49)

Ironically, the same kind of nasty behavior and attitude of the Serbs was the reason for the current situation of having no control over Kosovo.

T

pre 11 godina

The solution lies in compromise which is why I like this plan.
But can reasoning and logic prevail over stubbornness and foolish pride?
I guess time will tell.

Reader

pre 11 godina

Oh another so-called model from another place. Take some event, call it a model and try to sell it without regard of its context. I personally like the Serbian-Ottoman Empire model better. Full independence without losing time with 'over my dead body' politicians.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

I meant to write: In America, the Democrats could easily not only just lose, but be decimated, and America would be wise to scrap the Kumanovo agreement, and Germany would be wise to otder its Puppet of Lithuania to implement the SAA Agreement.

One of Highest Principles of Democracy is that a new Parliament is not bound by what the Old Parliament did.

This is the Principle that Validates the New Parliament to shelve, amend, or bin the Tadic Agreement, and if Seebia joibs the European Union, it Will Be on Serbia’s Terms and Conditions.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

The Olympics are on are the moment, amd thr American Election Canpaign is on at the moment, and this is the time to put the the Tadic Agreement in the bin.

It is best to write to the United Nations, Obama and Merkel, and to the Kosovo Albanian Leadership, and keep writing to them until you get an answer from them in writing.

In America, the Democrats could easily boy only just lose, but be Decimated, and they wouyld be wise to scrap the Kumanovo agreement, and Fwermany would be eise to otder its Puppet of Lithuania to implement the Saa Agreement.

Serbia would be wise not to waste any time, and to do what I suggest as soon as possible, because this Opportunity will not ne here long with the Olympics, and the American Election, and the Written Record set up for the next German Election.

Mark

pre 11 godina

“Ireland won its independence but initially remained associated with the British crown. The Protestant majority in Northern Ireland was allowed to opt out of independent Ireland and remain part of Great Britain. The Republic of Ireland maintained a claim on the north for some decades and still has its tricolor flag that includes orange for the Protestants,”

So Kosovo is Ireland and Presevo Valley is Northern Ireland. There is nothing to solve.

choke on your tears

pre 11 godina

How have all those 'other' plans by Serbs and their friends worked so far?
(cry me a river, 29 July 2012 15:06)

all being planned. and when an ultimatum is put in front of thaci to sign, he'll do it. whether its the two germanies model, the brcko model, the south tyrol model, or the serbia-kosovo federation model. kosovo is going nowhere as long as it stubbornly refuses to compromise.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"But you wouldn't even accept North Kosovo something you cannot ever control to be on the table.

This type of nasty behavior and overvaluing your worth to the West is exactly what will leave you with 0% of sovereignty over Kosovo i Metohija when your sponsors go home."
(Ari Gold, 29 July 2012 12:49)

Ironically, the same kind of nasty behavior and attitude of the Serbs was the reason for the current situation of having no control over Kosovo.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

According to Gallucci, this suggests the outlines for a possible agreement between Serbia and Kosovo: Serbian recognition of the independence of Kosovo as an associated state and Kosovo acceptance of the north opting out of its independence to remain part of Serbia.

I'd agree to this (for the sake of peace not because you guys deserve even an inch of sovereignty over any part of Serbia) if you added Strpce, Gracanica and possibly one more enclave and special status for monasteries.

North Kosovo is not a compromise. That is a part Pristina does not have the physical capacity to ever control. You simply are not strong enough and will never be. The West is clearly not willing to commit a genocide of 40,000 Serbs for your sick dreams and again I repeat you are not strong enough too.

But you wouldn't even accept North Kosovo something you cannot ever control to be on the table.

This type of nasty behavior and overvaluing your worth to the West is exactly what will leave you with 0% of sovereignty over Kosovo i Metohija when your sponsors go home.

Mark

pre 11 godina

“Ireland won its independence but initially remained associated with the British crown. The Protestant majority in Northern Ireland was allowed to opt out of independent Ireland and remain part of Great Britain. The Republic of Ireland maintained a claim on the north for some decades and still has its tricolor flag that includes orange for the Protestants,”

So Kosovo is Ireland and Presevo Valley is Northern Ireland. There is nothing to solve.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Ironically, the same kind of nasty behavior and attitude of the Serbs was the reason for the current situation of having no control over Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 July 2012 14:26)
--
Not to worry Commie, we had the same attitude against the NAZIs and their partners in crime (Albanians) but still came out victorious. And you are correct, we have the same attitude against the NATO death machine and partners in crime (Albanians). Nothing has changed.

Anyway, what some people seem to forget is that Northern Ireland and the whole of the UK suffered decades of instability and terrorist attacks. Even to this day the peace is shaky. It doesn't seem like a good model to me.

Reader

pre 11 godina

Oh another so-called model from another place. Take some event, call it a model and try to sell it without regard of its context. I personally like the Serbian-Ottoman Empire model better. Full independence without losing time with 'over my dead body' politicians.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

The Olympics are on are the moment, amd thr American Election Canpaign is on at the moment, and this is the time to put the the Tadic Agreement in the bin.

It is best to write to the United Nations, Obama and Merkel, and to the Kosovo Albanian Leadership, and keep writing to them until you get an answer from them in writing.

In America, the Democrats could easily boy only just lose, but be Decimated, and they wouyld be wise to scrap the Kumanovo agreement, and Fwermany would be eise to otder its Puppet of Lithuania to implement the Saa Agreement.

Serbia would be wise not to waste any time, and to do what I suggest as soon as possible, because this Opportunity will not ne here long with the Olympics, and the American Election, and the Written Record set up for the next German Election.

T

pre 11 godina

The solution lies in compromise which is why I like this plan.
But can reasoning and logic prevail over stubbornness and foolish pride?
I guess time will tell.

choke on your tears

pre 11 godina

How have all those 'other' plans by Serbs and their friends worked so far?
(cry me a river, 29 July 2012 15:06)

all being planned. and when an ultimatum is put in front of thaci to sign, he'll do it. whether its the two germanies model, the brcko model, the south tyrol model, or the serbia-kosovo federation model. kosovo is going nowhere as long as it stubbornly refuses to compromise.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

I meant to write: In America, the Democrats could easily not only just lose, but be decimated, and America would be wise to scrap the Kumanovo agreement, and Germany would be wise to otder its Puppet of Lithuania to implement the SAA Agreement.

One of Highest Principles of Democracy is that a new Parliament is not bound by what the Old Parliament did.

This is the Principle that Validates the New Parliament to shelve, amend, or bin the Tadic Agreement, and if Seebia joibs the European Union, it Will Be on Serbia’s Terms and Conditions.