"Kosovo special units" raid offices of Serbian bank

right thing to do, they are in Koovo, and need a liecence to operate, like in any other country as well. I assume they also never paid taxes. What did they think they were doing, Something that would have happened in any other country, so what is the big news about it? that is not even worth reporting. They violeted the law, and sure they were shut down.

Willi, stop being a jerk, on a daily basis. BTW, what kind of a name is willi for an Albanian? You know that the Serbs in KiM do not recognize the authorities in Pristina, so why would they have a license from a place they do not acknowledge? We keep going back and forth here, on a daily basis, Albanians say KiM is independent, Serbs, and most world countries, say no you are not. So why are you acting dumb, willi? Kosovo is not, as you put it, like any other nation in the world.

What took them so long?

"Kosovo special units" LOL! The correct term is terrorist sponsored bank robbers.

"Kosovo special units" LOL! The correct term is terrorist sponsored bank robbers.
(Zoran, 27 July 2012 14:59)

You can call this unit whatever you want. For me this is legitimate Special Police Force of my country Kosovo.
The only reason why this particular bank has been raided for no other reason than failure to obtain the required licence for operation in Kosovo. FYI, the Central Bank of Kosovo (CBK) has been founded by UNMIK in 2000. The UNMIK regulation requires that any physical person or company must obtain the licence from CBK prior to commencing any financial activity.
The ROSU operation is fully in compliance with resolution 1244 which Serbia so "faithfully respects".
One that asks why ROSU has raided this Dunav Bank, should also asks why ROSU has not raided "Beogradska Banka AD" which operates in Gracanica and Strpce. The answer is simple. Beogradska Banka AD has the licence from CBK.
Therefore there is no reason for concern. Wild West 90's in Kosovo when Serbs have treated Kosovo like jungle are gone forever.

grow a pair and come to Mitrovica..not some poor enclave that cannot even get medical supplies

@ecoman: don´t take him too serious, he´s just another K-albanian who has not the guts to write under an albanian nick-name...

as for the article: albanian chest-beating. nothing else. they simply know that they have no power whatsoever. but with actions like these those actors in Priština who are playing "poletician", like one of our dear k-albanian friends used to write it a few days ago, they are only trying to distract from that very obvious fact.

I'm amazed how slow are the Kosova's institutions in implementing the law.

In Gracanica- 20 min of drive from the capital Prishtina someone can open a bank branch and operate without any license and no one disturbs them. No one gets arrested. Where in the world you can do such a thing???

I want people being arrested, being brought to justice and jailed for years. This is what I would get in EU if I do such a thing and this is what crooks should get in Kosova as well.

Serbs should take a page from the old KLA game book. They terrorized Serbian institutions, police forces, and ordinary citizens - Serbs should start doing the same. The KLA were freedom fighters, right? Well, high time Serbs fought back for their freedom. Terror only responds to terror, and obviously this is all that Thaci knows.

Serbs should take a page from the old KLA game book. They terrorized Serbian institutions, police forces, and ordinary citizens - Serbs should start doing the same. The KLA were freedom fighters, right? Well, high time Serbs fought back for their freedom. Terror only responds to terror, and obviously this is all that Thaci knows.
(ecoman, 27 July 2012 16:10)

Well ecoman, we did last year..

in fact the KLA are just sour they were defeated this time last year when one of them was murdered
they raid a bank in a enclave.

Like I said, come to Mitrovica so you can be met with further defeats.

Therefore there is no reason for concern. Wild West 90's in Kosovo when Serbs have treated Kosovo like jungle are gone forever.
(Simpatiku, 27 July 2012 15:55)
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LOL! You call this action civil? "Kosova"* is the wild west and this is just another provocation that proves it.

I would have thought a registrar somewhere could search for licenses and then going through the proper channels (i.e. UNMIK) to clear this with the bank. That is civil but somehow sending in a mob of bank robbers is justified? Yes, K*-Albanians exposing themselves day by day. Nothing new here.

My goodness, Albanians need that much disproportionate force just to steal things these days?

right thing to do, they are in Kosovo, and need a liecence to operate, like in any other country as well. I assume they also never paid taxes. What did they think they were doing, Something that would have happened in any other country, so what is the big news about it? that is not even worth reporting. They violeted the law, and sure they were shut down.
(Willi Pfaff, 27 July 2012 13:20)

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries.

Good old Willie said, "right thing to do, they are in Koovo, and need a liecence to operate, like in any other country as well. I assume they also never paid taxes. What did they think they were doing, Something that would have happened in any other country, so what is the big news about it? that is not even worth reporting. They violeted the law, and sure they were shut down."

Would you do a better job writing in your German ... Koovo?

willie, you sit on your white arse in Offenbach hiding behind this promoting of peace in the Balkans while you take every opportunity to spew your chronic bias against Serbs.

Talking out of both sides of your mouth makes you a hypocrite, willie.

So why are you acting dumb, willi?
(ecoman, 27 July 2012 14:08)

IMHO Willi doesn't acting dumb, he IS dumb.

They operating ilegally they should be arrested and imprisonment why politisizing this issue this nis a technical issue that the authorities needs to deal with.

LOL This is to all sides:

Before '89 Kosovo/a had a president, parliament, and its own govt. bodies. Even as province and not as a republic as it currently is striving for.

When I see serbs conveying their views that its serbia and not kosovo/a its a bit amusing. Prior to '89 albanians and serbs made their own laws and legislation on a state level (province). At the federal level things were done in belgrade and he president of Kosovo/a was president of Yugoslavia as that is how the system was set up as you all know.

Today you have a system where its basically the same as pre '89 and people are aguing about allegiance and not about the law. If the elected Kosovo/a authorities will clamp down on all banks that do not have licenses then they must do so across the board. Even if they are albanian banks and not just serbian.

Prior to '89 every serb in kosovo/a had to go to Prishtina to get any form of license. So what is the difference today? Because of hatred and animosity people don't want to go to the other side to get a license. That is pure ignorance and childlike. And it applies to Albanians as well. A compromise can be made but no one wants it yet till their forced by others to do so and that is usually by outsiders. Grow up everyone and think of working together as you all did not so long ago.

@Zoran lol you have no idea of what the reality is. UNMIK have 3 personnel left in Kosovo(a) and one of them is the head of the administration for Kosovo(a)

@Simpatiku bravo, facts count.

All the rest of you haters and war mongrels. Get a life. Donate to charity. Do whatever you think it would benefit human beings instead of getting caught on the status dilemma.

I would have thought a registrar somewhere could search for licenses and then going through the proper channels (i.e. UNMIK) to clear this with the bank. That is civil but somehow sending in a mob of bank robbers is justified? Yes, K*-Albanians exposing themselves day by day. Nothing new here.
(Zoran, 27 July 2012 16:38)

The proper channel in this case is CBK. CBK did not have any application for licence received from Dunav Bank. This bank is operating in Kosovo for years without licence. Toleration was long enough.
No need for nervousness.

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries.
(aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

If they do not recognize Prishtina authority, then they can not operate in Kosovo period. The majority of Kosovo population recognizes Kosovo's independence and therefore expects the Government to act in that spirit.

grow a pair and come to Mitrovica..not some poor enclave that cannot even get medical supplies
(Ari Gold, 27 July 2012 15:26)

They need a fair fight. They tried something like that last year and got sorely beaten. The best they can do now is point guns someone else paid for them to have at bank tellers, postmen, children, old people, monks, empty churches and cows and only when they outnumber them 5 to 1. Don't worry though. Another ugly statue of some shirtless Illyrian warrior will be erected in Pristina to mark this historic day for myself and ben to get excited over.

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries. (aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

Is almost half of countries that do recognise Kosovo and those are all west democratic countries included. As for the banks I guaranty you they will recognise now. Unless they decide to be gone.

The comments of the serb nationals just show once more how derailed they are. They twist and change things in a way so it fits into their believes. They think they can do whatever they want, law only applies to others, in this case Kosovors, but they can do whatever they want. Unreal, and u just disqualifies everything you guys are saying. U don't even realize how absurd you are to anybody else in the world who reads this stuff. As I said before, you are Serbia's worst enemies.

You know that the Serbs in KiM do not recognize the authorities in Pristina, so why would they have a license from a place they do not acknowledge?
(ecoman, 27 July 2012 14:08)

That's a very interesting strategy I had not thought about... tomorrow I'll go to rob a bank and when the police arrives I'll simply tell them I do not recognize them and I'll be free to go. I'll become rich very quickly - how could I be so stupid to not have thought about that before :)

"In Gracanica- 20 min of drive from the capital Prishtina someone can open a bank branch and operate without any license and no one disturbs them. No one gets arrested. Where in the world you can do such a thing??? "
(ben, 27 July 2012 15:46)

I think it's more like that: This bank existed and operated much longer than this self-proclaimed state of Kosovo.

What about: Somewhere in Europe, a bunch of people whose names have been on CIA terrorist lists, former warlords and mafia clan kingpins which call themselves 'representatives of the people' proclaim an own state.

They invent new laws and regulations, and confiscate property of legal owners. And in this new 'mafia state', the drug mafia can operate freely, no one disturbs them, they managed to turn this place into Europe's main drug hub, they are protected by state officials and tolerated by the 'police' (which is made of former 'freedom fighters' who themselves were financed by the very same drug mafia years ago). Other illegal activities like human trafficking and extracting organs of victims from countries far away who were trapped into a 'hospital' which was located in the middle of this 'captial' Pristina.

They invent new laws and regulations, and confiscate property of legal owners. And in this new 'mafia state', the drug mafia can operate freely, no one disturbs them,
(Comm. Parrisson, 28 July 2012 15:29)

Please Commie, make up your mind: I thought this mafia state was run by UNMIK based on UNSCR 1244. How could they invent new regulations if they still were under UNSCR 1244?

So according to some people that Kosovo's elite "popo" unit (ROSU) acted like a bunch of thieves or thugs rather than cops or professional cops when raiding this bank?

Speaking of popo and even though I'm not trying to sound cheesy but since I mentioned months ago about that word being an American nickname or rare American nickname for police and 'po' meaning 'yes' in Albanian is there any possibility that "popo" will the newest word to be part of the Albanian vocabulary even if it "runs the risk" of still being interpreted as "yesyes" therefore causing some Albanians to feel that Americans have weird or funny nicknames for police (potentially Albanian adults are more likely to find the word popo weird but more likely Albanian youngsters will find Americans so funny to nickname police "popo" and therefore burst out laughing.)Finally just so that you know that from the looks of things that Americans don't nickname criminals "jojos" (jo means no in Albanian)so therefore I don't suggest that criminals be nicknamed "jojos" although who knows? there could be a new Albanian proverb that states that "if you should choose to live a life of a "jojo" than you'll be punished by "popo".Weird but a funny proverb.

Albanians trying it on again. Trying to take the heat off the horrible living conditions in Kosovo, but Belgrade is smart and will leave it as is and watch as the Albanians live in their own filth and misery.

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries.
(aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

Most of the world countries means about 97 countries.... I searched all possible sources but could only find about 20 countries which have said that they do not recognize Kosovo. I would be very interested if you could list those 97 countries which have said that they do not recognize Kosovo. Not that I don't trust you, but I trust more what those countries say, not what you say for them :)
(icj1, 28 July 2012 05:07)

There is a country with the name "bla-bla-bla" nearby my house. Don't you believe me? Then find out a single country which says it doesn't recognize the country "bla-bla-bla".

Trying to take the heat off the horrible living conditions in Kosovo, but Belgrade is smart and will leave it as is and watch as the Albanians live in their own filth and misery.
(sj, 28 July 2012 10:24)

Indeed, because there is nothing that Belgrade can do. Kosovo residents (Serbs or Albanians alike) don't care what Belgrade says because they are independent from Belgrade.

They need a fair fight. They tried something like that last year and got sorely beaten. The best they can do now is point guns someone else paid for them to have at bank tellers, postmen, children, old people, monks, empty churches and cows and only when they outnumber them 5 to 1. Don't worry though. Another ugly statue of some shirtless Illyrian warrior will be erected in Pristina to mark this historic day for myself and ben to get excited over.
(Willi Phart, 27 July 2012 19:19)

This is something I did not write, just to point this out, and I think this is disgusting. Somebody used my name to have this posted ...

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries.
(aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

Most of the world countries means about 97 countries.... I searched all possible sources but could only find about 20 countries which have said that they do not recognize Kosovo. I would be very interested if you could list those 97 countries which have said that they do not recognize Kosovo. Not that I don't trust you, but I trust more what those countries say, not what you say for them :)

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries. (aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

Is almost half of countries that do recognise Kosovo and those are all west democratic countries included. As for the banks I guaranty you they will recognise now. Unless they decide to be gone.

Albanians+theft=traditional.

folks, you are giving too much attention to this bankrobbery by albanian "special units"... ( masked chicken thieves would fit better )!

what I find rather amusing is that some of our dear k-albanian friends aren´t getting tired to write mantra-like about being "independent", even if they very likely do know that this is only nonsense.

@ICJ: Serbia can do a lot, but the time is not right, that´s what you fail to see. but just go on with your independence-babbling, it is entertaining though... after you disqualified yourself in regard to the implications of the ICJ-"ruling", now you are beating the big drum for "independence"... =)

but let´s be serious: there is no independence for you. you are currently enjoying protection by a third party. and you heavily DEPEND on foreign help. so, writing about independence actually is such a shameful thing for a k-albanian that one cannot find words to describe this self-humiliation..

"business as usual"...

Looks like a deal went sour for Hash with one of his 'business' associates so he decided to rob a bank to recoup his losses.

You have to admire the sheer brass neck of it.

@ICJ: Serbia can do a lot, but the time is not right, that´s what you fail to see.
(Jovan, 29 July 2012 10:30)

Sure… Let us know when the time is right. Hopefully we are still around to see it LOL
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but just go on with your independence-babbling, it is entertaining though... after you disqualified yourself in regard to the implications of the ICJ-"ruling", now you are beating the big drum for "independence"... =)
(Jovan, 29 July 2012 10:30)

Yes, I disqualified myself in regard to the implications of YOUR ruling which unfortunately did not contain the same words as the ICJ ruling :)
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but let´s be serious: there is no independence for you. you are currently enjoying protection by a third party. and you heavily DEPEND on foreign help. so, writing about independence actually is such a shameful thing for a k-albanian that one cannot find words to describe this self-humiliation..
(Jovan, 29 July 2012 10:30)

Kosovo is happy to be dependent even from the devil, as long as it is independent (as it is now) from Serbia! If you are happy with that too, then it is great – everybody is happy and nothing to argue about

I have a better idea: Why not to it like that: Proclaim 'independence', claim that you don't recognize the state the bank is located in, and tell the bank owners that this bank is on the territory of your state from now on. Invent some new some conditions and laws. Now, find some of your clan mates, call this bunch of highly qualified people a 'special police unit' and confiscate the bank assets. Sounds even smarter than an ordinary robbery, don't you think? Any similarities to things that happened in reality are totally unintended :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 July 2012 13:28)

That’s an excellent idea… the only difficulty with its implementation is that I need to convince the ICJ that the first act (of the chain of events you described) is legal, otherwise all the subsequent acts that are based on it would be illegal. I’d need to find somebody like Vuk to help - but unfortunately he is no longer around :)

It seems to me that some of you are accusing ROSU of police brutality so there's something I want to point out which I don't feel is totally off topic.

From what I see on t.v. that in United States that when a law enforcement vehicle is involved in a high speed chase or "hot pursuit" and if the fleeing suspect isn't yielding meaning that the suspect refuses to stop his or her vehicle that as a last resort the city,state police,sheriff and/or highway patrol(depending which authority figures are involved chasing a suspect) can perform what Americans call the "pit maneuver"(pit stands for pursuit intervention technique and/or pursuit immobilizing technique)where a law enforcement vehicle essentially nudges a suspect's vehicle (but sometimes rams into a suspect's vehicle) where the end result is occasionally the suspect's vehicle is sent spinning around or at times flips over or simply bumps into an innocent driver's vehicle.)In fact somewhere in the U.S. a cop car "pitted" a suspect's motorcycle,so therefore and to get to the point if Kosovar-Albanian cops committed the "pit maneuver" would they get accused of police brutality?Yes or no? In my opinion under some circumstances it wouldn't be police brutality.

There is a country with the name "bla-bla-bla" nearby my house. Don't you believe me? Then find out a single country which says it doesn't recognize the country "bla-bla-bla".
(aaayyy, 28 July 2012 16:57)

I'm not claiming that there are any countries which said that they don't recognize the country "bla-bla-bla".

But you DID CLAIM that there are, at least, 97 countries which said that they don't recognize Kosovo. I'm still impatiently waiting for you to list those countries to support your claim...

"That's a very interesting strategy I had not thought about... tomorrow I'll go to rob a bank and when the police arrives I'll simply tell them I do not recognize them and I'll be free to go. I'll become rich very quickly - how could I be so stupid to not have thought about that before :)"
(icj1, 28 July 2012 05:02)

I have a better idea: Why not to it like that: Proclaim 'independence', claim that you don't recognize the state the bank is located in, and tell the bank owners that this bank is on the territory of your state from now on. Invent some new some conditions and laws. Now, find some of your clan mates, call this bunch of highly qualified people a 'special police unit' and confiscate the bank assets. Sounds even smarter than an ordinary robbery, don't you think? Any similarities to things that happened in reality are totally unintended :)

My God you must be the greatest simpleton on this planet to believe that Belgrade can’t do anything.
(sj, 29 July 2012 02:06)

You are correct… I am as great a simpleton as the Serbs in North Kosovo who believe that Belgrade can’t do anything; that’s why they don’t obey Belgrade.
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They can choke the living daylights out of Kosovo by closing all access and then your people can drive around into Macedonia then Bulgaria then Romania then Hungary… or they can go to Albania and swim across to Italy and that would only be the starters.
(sj, 29 July 2012 02:06)

Sure, Belgrade can go ahead and choke the living daylights out of Kosovo; I’m impatiently waiting that happening LOL
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The only time Kosovo will be indepednant is when Belgrade recognizes it and hell will freeze over before that happens.
(sj, 29 July 2012 02:06)

Of course, Kosovo will be independent for Belgrade when Belgrade says so, Kosovo will be independent for Zimbabwe when Zimbabwe says so, etc., etc… so your point was ?!
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Oh how is the summer harvest going?
(sj, 29 July 2012 02:06)

Excellent, in the company of my Malaysian friend learning some global economic and political secrets from high level meetings LOL

Kosovo is happy to be dependent even from the devil, as long as it is independent (as it is now) from Serbia! If you are happy with that too, then it is great – everybody is happy and nothing to argue about
(icj1, 29 July 2012 17:09)

excellent comment, as always. Although you missed one point: Jovan doesn't talk to you and to none of us. He has his crystal ball to talk to. It's a special and very personal link.

This is something I did not write, just to point this out, and I think this is disgusting. Somebody used my name to have this posted ...
(Willi Pfaff, 29 July 2012 08:52)

Don’t worry Willi we know that such an unarticulated and insulting comment and nickname can be only from some Serbian intellectuals posting here.

Indeed, because there is nothing that Belgrade can do. Kosovo residents (Serbs or Albanians alike) don't care what Belgrade says because they are independent from Belgrade.
(icj1, 28 July 2012 17:18)
My God you must be the greatest simpleton on this planet to believe that Belgrade can’t do anything. They can choke the living daylights out of Kosovo by closing all access and then your people can drive around into Macedonia then Bulgaria then Romania then Hungary… or they can go to Albania and swim across to Italy and that would only be the starters. The only time Kosovo will be indepednant is when Belgrade recognizes it and hell will freeze over before that happens.
Oh how is the summer harvest going?

Hey, Vuk is still alive, and I heard he just lost his job. Maybe, with a good offer, he would agree to help you? Though I don't think it's needed, the ICJ's argumentation was very general, not special for this 'case sui generis'. So I think your UDI would be perfecly legal (as long as you are not an official who is bound to some UN resolution) :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 July 2012 20:27)

Unfortunately the ICJ said that "the declaration of independence of Kosovo adopted on 17 February 2008 did not violate international law". Damn those judges who limited it to Kosovo only and to one date only.

But I do have a brilliant idea... I can call my state "Kosovo" and backdate the declaration to 17 Feb 2008. In that case it would be covered by ICJ's decision. Just don't mention it around otherwise somebody will come to understand that I falsified the date LOL

"I’d need to find somebody like Vuk to help - but unfortunately he is no longer around :)"
(icj1, 29 July 2012 17:10)

Hey, Vuk is still alive, and I heard he just lost his job. Maybe, with a good offer, he would agree to help you? Though I don't think it's needed, the ICJ's argumentation was very general, not special for this 'case sui generis'. So I think your UDI would be perfecly legal (as long as you are not an official who is bound to some UN resolution) :)

right thing to do, they are in Koovo, and need a liecence to operate, like in any other country as well. I assume they also never paid taxes. What did they think they were doing, Something that would have happened in any other country, so what is the big news about it? that is not even worth reporting. They violeted the law, and sure they were shut down.

Willi, stop being a jerk, on a daily basis. BTW, what kind of a name is willi for an Albanian? You know that the Serbs in KiM do not recognize the authorities in Pristina, so why would they have a license from a place they do not acknowledge? We keep going back and forth here, on a daily basis, Albanians say KiM is independent, Serbs, and most world countries, say no you are not. So why are you acting dumb, willi? Kosovo is not, as you put it, like any other nation in the world.

"Kosovo special units" LOL! The correct term is terrorist sponsored bank robbers.

"Kosovo special units" LOL! The correct term is terrorist sponsored bank robbers.
(Zoran, 27 July 2012 14:59)

You can call this unit whatever you want. For me this is legitimate Special Police Force of my country Kosovo.
The only reason why this particular bank has been raided for no other reason than failure to obtain the required licence for operation in Kosovo. FYI, the Central Bank of Kosovo (CBK) has been founded by UNMIK in 2000. The UNMIK regulation requires that any physical person or company must obtain the licence from CBK prior to commencing any financial activity.
The ROSU operation is fully in compliance with resolution 1244 which Serbia so "faithfully respects".
One that asks why ROSU has raided this Dunav Bank, should also asks why ROSU has not raided "Beogradska Banka AD" which operates in Gracanica and Strpce. The answer is simple. Beogradska Banka AD has the licence from CBK.
Therefore there is no reason for concern. Wild West 90's in Kosovo when Serbs have treated Kosovo like jungle are gone forever.

grow a pair and come to Mitrovica..not some poor enclave that cannot even get medical supplies

@ecoman: don´t take him too serious, he´s just another K-albanian who has not the guts to write under an albanian nick-name...

as for the article: albanian chest-beating. nothing else. they simply know that they have no power whatsoever. but with actions like these those actors in Priština who are playing "poletician", like one of our dear k-albanian friends used to write it a few days ago, they are only trying to distract from that very obvious fact.

I'm amazed how slow are the Kosova's institutions in implementing the law.

In Gracanica- 20 min of drive from the capital Prishtina someone can open a bank branch and operate without any license and no one disturbs them. No one gets arrested. Where in the world you can do such a thing???

I want people being arrested, being brought to justice and jailed for years. This is what I would get in EU if I do such a thing and this is what crooks should get in Kosova as well.

Serbs should take a page from the old KLA game book. They terrorized Serbian institutions, police forces, and ordinary citizens - Serbs should start doing the same. The KLA were freedom fighters, right? Well, high time Serbs fought back for their freedom. Terror only responds to terror, and obviously this is all that Thaci knows.

What took them so long?

Serbs should take a page from the old KLA game book. They terrorized Serbian institutions, police forces, and ordinary citizens - Serbs should start doing the same. The KLA were freedom fighters, right? Well, high time Serbs fought back for their freedom. Terror only responds to terror, and obviously this is all that Thaci knows.
(ecoman, 27 July 2012 16:10)

Well ecoman, we did last year..

in fact the KLA are just sour they were defeated this time last year when one of them was murdered
they raid a bank in a enclave.

Like I said, come to Mitrovica so you can be met with further defeats.

grow a pair and come to Mitrovica..not some poor enclave that cannot even get medical supplies
(Ari Gold, 27 July 2012 15:26)

They need a fair fight. They tried something like that last year and got sorely beaten. The best they can do now is point guns someone else paid for them to have at bank tellers, postmen, children, old people, monks, empty churches and cows and only when they outnumber them 5 to 1. Don't worry though. Another ugly statue of some shirtless Illyrian warrior will be erected in Pristina to mark this historic day for myself and ben to get excited over.

Therefore there is no reason for concern. Wild West 90's in Kosovo when Serbs have treated Kosovo like jungle are gone forever.
(Simpatiku, 27 July 2012 15:55)
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LOL! You call this action civil? "Kosova"* is the wild west and this is just another provocation that proves it.

I would have thought a registrar somewhere could search for licenses and then going through the proper channels (i.e. UNMIK) to clear this with the bank. That is civil but somehow sending in a mob of bank robbers is justified? Yes, K*-Albanians exposing themselves day by day. Nothing new here.

So according to some people that Kosovo's elite "popo" unit (ROSU) acted like a bunch of thieves or thugs rather than cops or professional cops when raiding this bank?

Speaking of popo and even though I'm not trying to sound cheesy but since I mentioned months ago about that word being an American nickname or rare American nickname for police and 'po' meaning 'yes' in Albanian is there any possibility that "popo" will the newest word to be part of the Albanian vocabulary even if it "runs the risk" of still being interpreted as "yesyes" therefore causing some Albanians to feel that Americans have weird or funny nicknames for police (potentially Albanian adults are more likely to find the word popo weird but more likely Albanian youngsters will find Americans so funny to nickname police "popo" and therefore burst out laughing.)Finally just so that you know that from the looks of things that Americans don't nickname criminals "jojos" (jo means no in Albanian)so therefore I don't suggest that criminals be nicknamed "jojos" although who knows? there could be a new Albanian proverb that states that "if you should choose to live a life of a "jojo" than you'll be punished by "popo".Weird but a funny proverb.

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries.
(aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

If they do not recognize Prishtina authority, then they can not operate in Kosovo period. The majority of Kosovo population recognizes Kosovo's independence and therefore expects the Government to act in that spirit.

So why are you acting dumb, willi?
(ecoman, 27 July 2012 14:08)

IMHO Willi doesn't acting dumb, he IS dumb.

Good old Willie said, "right thing to do, they are in Koovo, and need a liecence to operate, like in any other country as well. I assume they also never paid taxes. What did they think they were doing, Something that would have happened in any other country, so what is the big news about it? that is not even worth reporting. They violeted the law, and sure they were shut down."

Would you do a better job writing in your German ... Koovo?

willie, you sit on your white arse in Offenbach hiding behind this promoting of peace in the Balkans while you take every opportunity to spew your chronic bias against Serbs.

Talking out of both sides of your mouth makes you a hypocrite, willie.

My goodness, Albanians need that much disproportionate force just to steal things these days?

They operating ilegally they should be arrested and imprisonment why politisizing this issue this nis a technical issue that the authorities needs to deal with.

right thing to do, they are in Kosovo, and need a liecence to operate, like in any other country as well. I assume they also never paid taxes. What did they think they were doing, Something that would have happened in any other country, so what is the big news about it? that is not even worth reporting. They violeted the law, and sure they were shut down.
(Willi Pfaff, 27 July 2012 13:20)

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries.

I would have thought a registrar somewhere could search for licenses and then going through the proper channels (i.e. UNMIK) to clear this with the bank. That is civil but somehow sending in a mob of bank robbers is justified? Yes, K*-Albanians exposing themselves day by day. Nothing new here.
(Zoran, 27 July 2012 16:38)

The proper channel in this case is CBK. CBK did not have any application for licence received from Dunav Bank. This bank is operating in Kosovo for years without licence. Toleration was long enough.
No need for nervousness.

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries. (aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

Is almost half of countries that do recognise Kosovo and those are all west democratic countries included. As for the banks I guaranty you they will recognise now. Unless they decide to be gone.

@Zoran lol you have no idea of what the reality is. UNMIK have 3 personnel left in Kosovo(a) and one of them is the head of the administration for Kosovo(a)

@Simpatiku bravo, facts count.

All the rest of you haters and war mongrels. Get a life. Donate to charity. Do whatever you think it would benefit human beings instead of getting caught on the status dilemma.

LOL This is to all sides:

Before '89 Kosovo/a had a president, parliament, and its own govt. bodies. Even as province and not as a republic as it currently is striving for.

When I see serbs conveying their views that its serbia and not kosovo/a its a bit amusing. Prior to '89 albanians and serbs made their own laws and legislation on a state level (province). At the federal level things were done in belgrade and he president of Kosovo/a was president of Yugoslavia as that is how the system was set up as you all know.

Today you have a system where its basically the same as pre '89 and people are aguing about allegiance and not about the law. If the elected Kosovo/a authorities will clamp down on all banks that do not have licenses then they must do so across the board. Even if they are albanian banks and not just serbian.

Prior to '89 every serb in kosovo/a had to go to Prishtina to get any form of license. So what is the difference today? Because of hatred and animosity people don't want to go to the other side to get a license. That is pure ignorance and childlike. And it applies to Albanians as well. A compromise can be made but no one wants it yet till their forced by others to do so and that is usually by outsiders. Grow up everyone and think of working together as you all did not so long ago.

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries. (aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

Is almost half of countries that do recognise Kosovo and those are all west democratic countries included. As for the banks I guaranty you they will recognise now. Unless they decide to be gone.

Trying to take the heat off the horrible living conditions in Kosovo, but Belgrade is smart and will leave it as is and watch as the Albanians live in their own filth and misery.
(sj, 28 July 2012 10:24)

Indeed, because there is nothing that Belgrade can do. Kosovo residents (Serbs or Albanians alike) don't care what Belgrade says because they are independent from Belgrade.

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries.
(aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

Most of the world countries means about 97 countries.... I searched all possible sources but could only find about 20 countries which have said that they do not recognize Kosovo. I would be very interested if you could list those 97 countries which have said that they do not recognize Kosovo. Not that I don't trust you, but I trust more what those countries say, not what you say for them :)

Albanians trying it on again. Trying to take the heat off the horrible living conditions in Kosovo, but Belgrade is smart and will leave it as is and watch as the Albanians live in their own filth and misery.

Albanians+theft=traditional.

"That's a very interesting strategy I had not thought about... tomorrow I'll go to rob a bank and when the police arrives I'll simply tell them I do not recognize them and I'll be free to go. I'll become rich very quickly - how could I be so stupid to not have thought about that before :)"
(icj1, 28 July 2012 05:02)

I have a better idea: Why not to it like that: Proclaim 'independence', claim that you don't recognize the state the bank is located in, and tell the bank owners that this bank is on the territory of your state from now on. Invent some new some conditions and laws. Now, find some of your clan mates, call this bunch of highly qualified people a 'special police unit' and confiscate the bank assets. Sounds even smarter than an ordinary robbery, don't you think? Any similarities to things that happened in reality are totally unintended :)

You know that the Serbs in KiM do not recognize the authorities in Pristina, so why would they have a license from a place they do not acknowledge?
(ecoman, 27 July 2012 14:08)

That's a very interesting strategy I had not thought about... tomorrow I'll go to rob a bank and when the police arrives I'll simply tell them I do not recognize them and I'll be free to go. I'll become rich very quickly - how could I be so stupid to not have thought about that before :)

They invent new laws and regulations, and confiscate property of legal owners. And in this new 'mafia state', the drug mafia can operate freely, no one disturbs them,
(Comm. Parrisson, 28 July 2012 15:29)

Please Commie, make up your mind: I thought this mafia state was run by UNMIK based on UNSCR 1244. How could they invent new regulations if they still were under UNSCR 1244?

Looks like a deal went sour for Hash with one of his 'business' associates so he decided to rob a bank to recoup his losses.

You have to admire the sheer brass neck of it.

It seems to me that some of you are accusing ROSU of police brutality so there's something I want to point out which I don't feel is totally off topic.

From what I see on t.v. that in United States that when a law enforcement vehicle is involved in a high speed chase or "hot pursuit" and if the fleeing suspect isn't yielding meaning that the suspect refuses to stop his or her vehicle that as a last resort the city,state police,sheriff and/or highway patrol(depending which authority figures are involved chasing a suspect) can perform what Americans call the "pit maneuver"(pit stands for pursuit intervention technique and/or pursuit immobilizing technique)where a law enforcement vehicle essentially nudges a suspect's vehicle (but sometimes rams into a suspect's vehicle) where the end result is occasionally the suspect's vehicle is sent spinning around or at times flips over or simply bumps into an innocent driver's vehicle.)In fact somewhere in the U.S. a cop car "pitted" a suspect's motorcycle,so therefore and to get to the point if Kosovar-Albanian cops committed the "pit maneuver" would they get accused of police brutality?Yes or no? In my opinion under some circumstances it wouldn't be police brutality.

"In Gracanica- 20 min of drive from the capital Prishtina someone can open a bank branch and operate without any license and no one disturbs them. No one gets arrested. Where in the world you can do such a thing??? "
(ben, 27 July 2012 15:46)

I think it's more like that: This bank existed and operated much longer than this self-proclaimed state of Kosovo.

What about: Somewhere in Europe, a bunch of people whose names have been on CIA terrorist lists, former warlords and mafia clan kingpins which call themselves 'representatives of the people' proclaim an own state.

They invent new laws and regulations, and confiscate property of legal owners. And in this new 'mafia state', the drug mafia can operate freely, no one disturbs them, they managed to turn this place into Europe's main drug hub, they are protected by state officials and tolerated by the 'police' (which is made of former 'freedom fighters' who themselves were financed by the very same drug mafia years ago). Other illegal activities like human trafficking and extracting organs of victims from countries far away who were trapped into a 'hospital' which was located in the middle of this 'captial' Pristina.

They don't recognize Prishtina authority, neither do the most world countries.
(aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:20)

Most of the world countries means about 97 countries.... I searched all possible sources but could only find about 20 countries which have said that they do not recognize Kosovo. I would be very interested if you could list those 97 countries which have said that they do not recognize Kosovo. Not that I don't trust you, but I trust more what those countries say, not what you say for them :)
(icj1, 28 July 2012 05:07)

There is a country with the name "bla-bla-bla" nearby my house. Don't you believe me? Then find out a single country which says it doesn't recognize the country "bla-bla-bla".

folks, you are giving too much attention to this bankrobbery by albanian "special units"... ( masked chicken thieves would fit better )!

what I find rather amusing is that some of our dear k-albanian friends aren´t getting tired to write mantra-like about being "independent", even if they very likely do know that this is only nonsense.

@ICJ: Serbia can do a lot, but the time is not right, that´s what you fail to see. but just go on with your independence-babbling, it is entertaining though... after you disqualified yourself in regard to the implications of the ICJ-"ruling", now you are beating the big drum for "independence"... =)

but let´s be serious: there is no independence for you. you are currently enjoying protection by a third party. and you heavily DEPEND on foreign help. so, writing about independence actually is such a shameful thing for a k-albanian that one cannot find words to describe this self-humiliation..

"business as usual"...

The comments of the serb nationals just show once more how derailed they are. They twist and change things in a way so it fits into their believes. They think they can do whatever they want, law only applies to others, in this case Kosovors, but they can do whatever they want. Unreal, and u just disqualifies everything you guys are saying. U don't even realize how absurd you are to anybody else in the world who reads this stuff. As I said before, you are Serbia's worst enemies.

Indeed, because there is nothing that Belgrade can do. Kosovo residents (Serbs or Albanians alike) don't care what Belgrade says because they are independent from Belgrade.
(icj1, 28 July 2012 17:18)
My God you must be the greatest simpleton on this planet to believe that Belgrade can’t do anything. They can choke the living daylights out of Kosovo by closing all access and then your people can drive around into Macedonia then Bulgaria then Romania then Hungary… or they can go to Albania and swim across to Italy and that would only be the starters. The only time Kosovo will be indepednant is when Belgrade recognizes it and hell will freeze over before that happens.
Oh how is the summer harvest going?

There is a country with the name "bla-bla-bla" nearby my house. Don't you believe me? Then find out a single country which says it doesn't recognize the country "bla-bla-bla".
(aaayyy, 28 July 2012 16:57)

I'm not claiming that there are any countries which said that they don't recognize the country "bla-bla-bla".

But you DID CLAIM that there are, at least, 97 countries which said that they don't recognize Kosovo. I'm still impatiently waiting for you to list those countries to support your claim...

My God you must be the greatest simpleton on this planet to believe that Belgrade can’t do anything.
(sj, 29 July 2012 02:06)

You are correct… I am as great a simpleton as the Serbs in North Kosovo who believe that Belgrade can’t do anything; that’s why they don’t obey Belgrade.
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They can choke the living daylights out of Kosovo by closing all access and then your people can drive around into Macedonia then Bulgaria then Romania then Hungary… or they can go to Albania and swim across to Italy and that would only be the starters.
(sj, 29 July 2012 02:06)

Sure, Belgrade can go ahead and choke the living daylights out of Kosovo; I’m impatiently waiting that happening LOL
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The only time Kosovo will be indepednant is when Belgrade recognizes it and hell will freeze over before that happens.
(sj, 29 July 2012 02:06)

Of course, Kosovo will be independent for Belgrade when Belgrade says so, Kosovo will be independent for Zimbabwe when Zimbabwe says so, etc., etc… so your point was ?!
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Oh how is the summer harvest going?
(sj, 29 July 2012 02:06)

Excellent, in the company of my Malaysian friend learning some global economic and political secrets from high level meetings LOL

@ICJ: Serbia can do a lot, but the time is not right, that´s what you fail to see.
(Jovan, 29 July 2012 10:30)

Sure… Let us know when the time is right. Hopefully we are still around to see it LOL
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but just go on with your independence-babbling, it is entertaining though... after you disqualified yourself in regard to the implications of the ICJ-"ruling", now you are beating the big drum for "independence"... =)
(Jovan, 29 July 2012 10:30)

Yes, I disqualified myself in regard to the implications of YOUR ruling which unfortunately did not contain the same words as the ICJ ruling :)
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but let´s be serious: there is no independence for you. you are currently enjoying protection by a third party. and you heavily DEPEND on foreign help. so, writing about independence actually is such a shameful thing for a k-albanian that one cannot find words to describe this self-humiliation..
(Jovan, 29 July 2012 10:30)

Kosovo is happy to be dependent even from the devil, as long as it is independent (as it is now) from Serbia! If you are happy with that too, then it is great – everybody is happy and nothing to argue about

I have a better idea: Why not to it like that: Proclaim 'independence', claim that you don't recognize the state the bank is located in, and tell the bank owners that this bank is on the territory of your state from now on. Invent some new some conditions and laws. Now, find some of your clan mates, call this bunch of highly qualified people a 'special police unit' and confiscate the bank assets. Sounds even smarter than an ordinary robbery, don't you think? Any similarities to things that happened in reality are totally unintended :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 July 2012 13:28)

That’s an excellent idea… the only difficulty with its implementation is that I need to convince the ICJ that the first act (of the chain of events you described) is legal, otherwise all the subsequent acts that are based on it would be illegal. I’d need to find somebody like Vuk to help - but unfortunately he is no longer around :)

"I’d need to find somebody like Vuk to help - but unfortunately he is no longer around :)"
(icj1, 29 July 2012 17:10)

Hey, Vuk is still alive, and I heard he just lost his job. Maybe, with a good offer, he would agree to help you? Though I don't think it's needed, the ICJ's argumentation was very general, not special for this 'case sui generis'. So I think your UDI would be perfecly legal (as long as you are not an official who is bound to some UN resolution) :)

They need a fair fight. They tried something like that last year and got sorely beaten. The best they can do now is point guns someone else paid for them to have at bank tellers, postmen, children, old people, monks, empty churches and cows and only when they outnumber them 5 to 1. Don't worry though. Another ugly statue of some shirtless Illyrian warrior will be erected in Pristina to mark this historic day for myself and ben to get excited over.
(Willi Phart, 27 July 2012 19:19)

This is something I did not write, just to point this out, and I think this is disgusting. Somebody used my name to have this posted ...

Kosovo is happy to be dependent even from the devil, as long as it is independent (as it is now) from Serbia! If you are happy with that too, then it is great – everybody is happy and nothing to argue about
(icj1, 29 July 2012 17:09)

excellent comment, as always. Although you missed one point: Jovan doesn't talk to you and to none of us. He has his crystal ball to talk to. It's a special and very personal link.

This is something I did not write, just to point this out, and I think this is disgusting. Somebody used my name to have this posted ...
(Willi Pfaff, 29 July 2012 08:52)

Don’t worry Willi we know that such an unarticulated and insulting comment and nickname can be only from some Serbian intellectuals posting here.

Hey, Vuk is still alive, and I heard he just lost his job. Maybe, with a good offer, he would agree to help you? Though I don't think it's needed, the ICJ's argumentation was very general, not special for this 'case sui generis'. So I think your UDI would be perfecly legal (as long as you are not an official who is bound to some UN resolution) :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 July 2012 20:27)

Unfortunately the ICJ said that "the declaration of independence of Kosovo adopted on 17 February 2008 did not violate international law". Damn those judges who limited it to Kosovo only and to one date only.

But I do have a brilliant idea... I can call my state "Kosovo" and backdate the declaration to 17 Feb 2008. In that case it would be covered by ICJ's decision. Just don't mention it around otherwise somebody will come to understand that I falsified the date LOL