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Thursday, 26.07.2012.

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“Nikolić won't meet with Kosovo president“

Serbia's President Tomislav Nikolić is not planning to meet with Kosovo President Atifete Jahjaga before a political consensus on Kosovo is reached.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

...Because he wants to take Kosovo from Serbs and give it to Albanians completely, while the others don't.
(aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:44)...

Wake up!
Albanians r running things in Kosova now.
There is nothong to give to Albanians.
They already have it.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

The only exception I find Čedomir Jovanović because he speak openly to Serbian people what he thinks.
(EA, 26 July 2012 10:48)

Because he wants to take Kosovo from Serbs and give it to Albanians completely, while the others don't.

Dardan

pre 11 godina

"Some Countries have their Terrorists, Liars, and Criminals, and in the Country of Serbia, many of these are presently of Albanian Ethnicity. "

actually its the other way around.

grobar1

pre 11 godina

@ engineer you albo trolls like to talk a lot of bs the SERBS IN KOSOVO DO NOT NEED THE SERBIAN ARMY they can clean up KOSOVO in a matter of days by them selves ......

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

The Serbian Province of Kosovo does not belong only to the People who live there, but it belongs to all the People of the UN Country of Serbia.

For Clarification and to leave any ambiguities, this Country of Serbia is what can be termed as Serbia Proper, plus Serbia’s Province of Kosovo, which was reconfirmed to belong to the Country of Serbia by means of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244.

We now know to whom the Serbian Province of Kosovo belongs, and everyone knows this to be the truth.

Some Countries have their Terrorists, Liars, and Criminals, and in the Country of Serbia, many of these are presently of Albanian Ethnicity.

The Albanians have made up false stories of how they were mistreated, because they are either deluded to think that they are pure, or that they can engage in Criminal thinking and behaviour with impunity , because they have the world’s Greatest Mafia, which is the America Government assisting their brother Criminals.

Perhaps the Albanians had a decade’s long plan after WW 2 to cause trouble, and to be prepared to evacuate Kosovo temporarily, in order to look like the victims who deserved independence.

To fight Terrorists, the Pakistani Government evacuated more of its own Citizens and for a longer, than what happened in Kosovo Albanians, and those people were not granted independence.

The Kosovo Albanians are Serbian Citizens, who need to renounce their Terrorism, Lies, and Criminality, before there can be Genuine Negotiations.

j

pre 11 godina

do I feel sorry for you, no. Apologize first for buddying up with the Turks, and the WWII nazi's, and some reconciliation may start.
(ecoman, 26 July 2012 20:40)

Ecoman, no need to go into these rants. Analyzing it for just a little bit, from your own perspective, what you say above is illogical.

First of all, you Serbs claim that we came to Kosova, with the Turks. Let's agree with that for a second.
Now if we indeed were brought by the Turks then why shouldn't we have buddied up to them. Wouldn't this be the natural thing to do. So why would you be angry with that? Are you angry with RS for buddying up with Serbia? They did come with Serbia didn't they?

If indeed we didn't come with the Turks, then why we and the Hungarians were the only ones fighting for 25 years while you were marrying their princes?

I would have no problem apologizing for the perception of buddying up to the Turks,if what you state was reasonable. Reformulate your request.

Also, at the very basic level Nationalism is nothing else but loyalty towards real estate; so chill a little. Being overly emotional on an internet board is not normal.

LOL

pre 11 godina

No, of course not. You are cowards who talk sh*t behind a much larger force who will leave and then the KLA will get crushed like the cockroaches they are.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2012 19:28)
As said while peeping out from the skirt tails of mother Russia!

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

whatever the reason is Ari Gold, he cannot enter a territory he supposedly presides over without permission. shows you how much he is President of that territory eh? as for the rest of your barbs, yes, its easy for you to write that from your armchair. what can I say, its better to get others to do the fighting for you isn't it :-) ?

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Naim, if the terrorist KLA had not gone around killing innocent people, Albanians would have had their rears kicked by the Serbian army. Did the KLA think that Milosevic would do nothing? You KLA terrorists started it, so why are you calling yourselves victims now? But it was all orchestrated so Milosevic would respond, opening the door for NATO. He fell into the CIA's plan. BTW, albanians have emptied hundreds of Serb villages throughout history - do I feel sorry for you, no. Apologize first for buddying up with the Turks, and the WWII nazi's, and some reconciliation may start.

Engineer

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 26 July 2012 19:28)

Ari have you ever fought in war? or been a part of war?

You seem to just want war every day but I do not think you understand how painful war is.

Nikolic said the other day I will never be a President of Kosovo and lovely resolution 1244 says Serbian Army is not allowed to come 5miles near Kosovo.

Talk is cheap from you or Nikolic but I hope he is not stupid like hunger strike the moment he sends that military down he has Broken Kumanovo Agreement just think what will happen.

For the time being he is not allowed the rest is talk and wet dream but hey let him try or you for that matter.

If 1244 was so good for Serbia why did they call it capitulation just like Hungarians had too pull out of Vojvodina I am sure there are Hungarian Ari's wanting it back but its not going is it.

But hey go get it man Kosovo is not going any place and it belongs to those who live there I am sure you are living thousands of miles away and have found this as a addiction to feel pride, what will change in your life who is in charge in kosovo just think.

Man one day you will be gone and from this earth and who knows in 500years maybe someone totally different will live in that Area Chinese or Indian and you have just hated for no reason.

Dont you get it this is a tool by Politicians in Serbia and Kosovo to occupy people from nightmare of poverty so Patriotism is free and gives them something to direct the hate.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

explain why he needs permission to visit Serbia's southern 'province'. it seems to me, the weak and feeble mind is yours
(Nikolle, 26 July 2012 11:54)

Yeah but be realistic, is that because you Albanians are independently strong enough to keep Nikolic from visiting whatever he wishes?

No, of course not. You are cowards who talk sh*t behind a much larger force who will leave and then the KLA will get crushed like the cockroaches they are.

Illyrian Lover

pre 11 godina

The absurdity of why Kosova should not be independent as a nation can be found with the recent developments in Montenegro. The real question the Serbian politicians need to ask themselves and more importantly to just to the rest of the civilized world is, “how can a country such as Montenegro the size of 600,000 and claim to be of Slavic origin seek to separate themselves from their brethren and seek independence and achieve independence”? Yet, a country the size of two million plus where the population is indigenous to the area and have no lineage to Serbs are prevented from freedom of choice and basic human rights”?

The Serbian elite need to ask themselves, “why would a small country like Montenegro which supposedly shares the same ethnicity, religion, language, etc., want to break lineage and secede from a big part of themselves?” Perhaps, the reason is that they may not be what they seem to be and understand this to be a “true” fact.

Logically, and from a sociology principles, whereby societies try to keep their unique culture and entity, etc; societies resist assimilation to other groups unless forced do so.

The latter is the main reason why most Kosovars actually adopted Islam. Albanian Kosovars are actually the first Europeans to adapt to Christianity. From time to time the question arises, “why did the Albanian Kosovars convert to Islam, whereas the Greeks/Serbs did not”?

The answer is very simple to comprehend!

naim neziri

pre 11 godina

ecoman. now we are in a peace time war is war innocent people been killed is sad. criminals paramilitry,militry criminals been killed in the war is accepted according to the international war law.
probably and I am sure you remember these days of 1998/99 when the whole Albanian villages been wiped out, houses burned civilians killed everything alive been destry to the ground. from who? oh boy ur not gonna tellme the 'KLA'terrorist' done it? it was actualy the Serbian army and paramilitry.
Slowly but surely it will come time when you will,as your former president Tadic say sorry to all the crimes and genocide been commited during Yugoslav war. yes he did say sorry to Croatia yes he did say sorry to Bosnia - ashemed. yes they will be ashamed and say sorry to Kosovo. before they decide to meed with our presidents or prime ministers and so on.

naim neziri

pre 11 godina

Ecoman. now we are living in a peace time. innocent civilians killed is sad and every one should be panished-no single doubt about that.
militry, paramilitry,criminals been killed in the war its accepted according to the international war law.
I am sure you remember 1998/99 when so many Albanian villiges wiped out of the ground. civilians killed everything alive burned to the ground. by who? ohh boy you are not gonna tell me is done by'kla' ''terrorists'' it has been been commited by serbs forces.
You should be ashamed as your former president Tadic and say sorry for the crimes commited to the former Yugoslav territories.
Yes he did say sorry to Croatia, yes he did say sorry to Bosnia and slowly but surely they will say sorry to Kosovo before he decides to meet our representatives. president or prime ministers or so.

Reader

pre 11 godina

sounds a bit too good to be true. let's wait and see. Every contact is welcome, the higher the level of the meetings the better.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

naim neziri, are you ashamed for the crimes committed by the terrorist group KLA? The murdered innocent civilians while sitting at outdoor cafes, simply because they were Serbs. Are you ashamed that Albanians are still killing Serbs throughout Kosovo? Albanians are not the innocent victims in this battle for Kosovo, they have tried to ethnically cleanse Serbs from KiM for over 100 years, are you ashamed of that, naim? And no, Nikolic has no reason to shake jagada's palm up hand, what for?

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The Tadic Agreement needs preferably to go to the bin, but it needs to at the very least be shelved because the New Negotiations that Must be Genuine will Supersede the Non Genuine Tadic Agreement, because it is the Only Way for both Parties to the Genuine Negotiations to Fully Believe and Understand that All Options Must be and Are on the table, because that is in the Nature of All Genuine Negotiation, and Serbia should not commence any Negotiations until the basic Structures have been put in place for Genuine Negotiations.
(Yet Another J S, 26 July 2012 11:04)

Yet Another J S,

Negotiations ended long ago. Wake up and smell the coffee. Rambouillet was 13 years ago and was the last chance for Serbia to negotiate over Kosova. If you don't get it through your head then only you will lose. The dogs bark and the caravan moves on.

Aleks

pre 11 godina

@EA

seriously do all albanians live in some demented dream world or maybe its your corrupt and criminal/mafia government that sells you drugs that makes you so delusional ... serbia is the strongest country militarily in the balkans and could easily crush any force that kosovo has like it did the last time cuz the only reason serbs forces are still not in kosovo was becasue of nato and not albanians ... that is a joke that kosovo, albania and macedonia could take on serbia, serbia would obliterate them in a heartbeat and besides macedonia is likely not gonna go into a war to support albanians, it has enough problems with greece and with albanians within macedonia that its not gonna get involved with serbia ... if you think that no serb politicans have the guts to put serb troops back into kosovo youve got another thing coming ... its only a matter of time before the serbian army reenters kosovo and takes ALL of it back as the politcans are entrusted to defend the serbian constitution and any poltican that doesnt gets ousted like tadic ... a fool like jovanovic will never even come into power and in case you didnt notice the nationalists are in power now, so life for you albanians is about to get a whole lot harder .. throughout history all invaders that have tried to take over serbia have failed and been driven out, albanians will suffer the same fate as the ottomans, hapsburgs and nazi/fascists that came before them

naim neziri

pre 11 godina

you got no brave to meet our precidned. you will feel ashamed of your crimes your country did thats why you don't meet.
you must be brave enough and not to run away from the meetings.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

"The rest are scared to death to tell and accept the truth about Kosovo"
"Have the current Serbian leaders have the guts to go and take Kosovo by force" EA (ethnic albanian, I presume)
I don't know what this truth is that you albanians keep talking about, that Serbian citizens are not aware of? Do you not think that they read the news, and they even have the internet now. You get real, whoever you are.
As for taking Kosovo back by force, no one talks of that. I don't know where you get your info. Serbia does not want to rule you albanians, it just does recognize KiM as an independent nation, simple. It must also protect its interests there - namely its people and heritage. You're very aggressive, why? BTW, you want Ceda, you can have him.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

...funny Ari Gold, all countries to have recognized Kosova, Miss Jahjaga is referred to as President by them :-). you know what however, if you believe Nikolic to be President of Kosovo too (by virtue of Kosovo being a part of Serbia) explain why he needs permission to visit Serbia's southern 'province'. it seems to me, the weak and feeble mind is yours

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

With genuine Negotiations, we do not know what the end result will be, but that is in the Nature of all Genuine Negotiations: their outcome is unknown in advance.

We know that there were many restrictions on the Negotiations in the past, and Euro America said that partition was not allowed, but Serbia Must insist that it be an Option, but we do not know if it will be mutually agreed to, until after the Genuine Negotiations commence.

Serbia should not accept anything less than Genuine Negotiations, and to have Genuine Negotiations, you Must have All of the Structures in place Before the Genuine Negotiations commence.

I want to say that partition is only one of Several Options, and one Basic Fundamental Non Negotiable Principle in all Genuine Negotiations, that All Options Must be on the table.

The SAA Agreement is needed, because the Option of Serbia joining the European Union Must be on the table.

The Kumanovo Agreement must be scrapped because the Option of partition must be on the table, and it is the Only Way for both Parties to the Genuine Negotiations to Fully Believe and Understand that partition is one of the Several Options on the table.

The Tadic Agreement needs preferably to go to the bin, but it needs to at the very least be shelved because the New Negotiations that Must be Genuine will Supersede the Non Genuine Tadic Agreement, because it is the Only Way for both Parties to the Genuine Negotiations to Fully Believe and Understand that All Options Must be and Are on the table, because that is in the Nature of All Genuine Negotiation, and Serbia should not commence any Negotiations until the basic Structures have been put in place for Genuine Negotiations.

EA

pre 11 godina

"...the president’s goal was to reach an agreement that would later be adopted by parliament and that would be binding for all Serbian representatives that took part in any talks regarding the southern Serbian province."

This kind of president can be anything but NOT a leader. The Serbian politics is full of crap when it comes to Kosovo issue. The only exception I find Čedomir Jovanović because he speak openly to Serbian people what he thinks. The rest are scared to death to tell and accept the truth about Kosovo.

Have the current Serbian leaders have the guts to go and take Kosovo by force...I really doubt because Kosovo is much much stronger than what it was before the last war and it will have the full support in everything from Albania and Macedonia so the military option will be suicidal for Serbia.

I agree with Thaci saying that Serbian must implement the previous agreement before and new talks.

Aleks

pre 11 godina

@EA

seriously do all albanians live in some demented dream world or maybe its your corrupt and criminal/mafia government that sells you drugs that makes you so delusional ... serbia is the strongest country militarily in the balkans and could easily crush any force that kosovo has like it did the last time cuz the only reason serbs forces are still not in kosovo was becasue of nato and not albanians ... that is a joke that kosovo, albania and macedonia could take on serbia, serbia would obliterate them in a heartbeat and besides macedonia is likely not gonna go into a war to support albanians, it has enough problems with greece and with albanians within macedonia that its not gonna get involved with serbia ... if you think that no serb politicans have the guts to put serb troops back into kosovo youve got another thing coming ... its only a matter of time before the serbian army reenters kosovo and takes ALL of it back as the politcans are entrusted to defend the serbian constitution and any poltican that doesnt gets ousted like tadic ... a fool like jovanovic will never even come into power and in case you didnt notice the nationalists are in power now, so life for you albanians is about to get a whole lot harder .. throughout history all invaders that have tried to take over serbia have failed and been driven out, albanians will suffer the same fate as the ottomans, hapsburgs and nazi/fascists that came before them

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

...funny Ari Gold, all countries to have recognized Kosova, Miss Jahjaga is referred to as President by them :-). you know what however, if you believe Nikolic to be President of Kosovo too (by virtue of Kosovo being a part of Serbia) explain why he needs permission to visit Serbia's southern 'province'. it seems to me, the weak and feeble mind is yours

EA

pre 11 godina

"...the president’s goal was to reach an agreement that would later be adopted by parliament and that would be binding for all Serbian representatives that took part in any talks regarding the southern Serbian province."

This kind of president can be anything but NOT a leader. The Serbian politics is full of crap when it comes to Kosovo issue. The only exception I find Čedomir Jovanović because he speak openly to Serbian people what he thinks. The rest are scared to death to tell and accept the truth about Kosovo.

Have the current Serbian leaders have the guts to go and take Kosovo by force...I really doubt because Kosovo is much much stronger than what it was before the last war and it will have the full support in everything from Albania and Macedonia so the military option will be suicidal for Serbia.

I agree with Thaci saying that Serbian must implement the previous agreement before and new talks.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

With genuine Negotiations, we do not know what the end result will be, but that is in the Nature of all Genuine Negotiations: their outcome is unknown in advance.

We know that there were many restrictions on the Negotiations in the past, and Euro America said that partition was not allowed, but Serbia Must insist that it be an Option, but we do not know if it will be mutually agreed to, until after the Genuine Negotiations commence.

Serbia should not accept anything less than Genuine Negotiations, and to have Genuine Negotiations, you Must have All of the Structures in place Before the Genuine Negotiations commence.

I want to say that partition is only one of Several Options, and one Basic Fundamental Non Negotiable Principle in all Genuine Negotiations, that All Options Must be on the table.

The SAA Agreement is needed, because the Option of Serbia joining the European Union Must be on the table.

The Kumanovo Agreement must be scrapped because the Option of partition must be on the table, and it is the Only Way for both Parties to the Genuine Negotiations to Fully Believe and Understand that partition is one of the Several Options on the table.

The Tadic Agreement needs preferably to go to the bin, but it needs to at the very least be shelved because the New Negotiations that Must be Genuine will Supersede the Non Genuine Tadic Agreement, because it is the Only Way for both Parties to the Genuine Negotiations to Fully Believe and Understand that All Options Must be and Are on the table, because that is in the Nature of All Genuine Negotiation, and Serbia should not commence any Negotiations until the basic Structures have been put in place for Genuine Negotiations.

naim neziri

pre 11 godina

you got no brave to meet our precidned. you will feel ashamed of your crimes your country did thats why you don't meet.
you must be brave enough and not to run away from the meetings.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

"The rest are scared to death to tell and accept the truth about Kosovo"
"Have the current Serbian leaders have the guts to go and take Kosovo by force" EA (ethnic albanian, I presume)
I don't know what this truth is that you albanians keep talking about, that Serbian citizens are not aware of? Do you not think that they read the news, and they even have the internet now. You get real, whoever you are.
As for taking Kosovo back by force, no one talks of that. I don't know where you get your info. Serbia does not want to rule you albanians, it just does recognize KiM as an independent nation, simple. It must also protect its interests there - namely its people and heritage. You're very aggressive, why? BTW, you want Ceda, you can have him.

naim neziri

pre 11 godina

ecoman. now we are in a peace time war is war innocent people been killed is sad. criminals paramilitry,militry criminals been killed in the war is accepted according to the international war law.
probably and I am sure you remember these days of 1998/99 when the whole Albanian villages been wiped out, houses burned civilians killed everything alive been destry to the ground. from who? oh boy ur not gonna tellme the 'KLA'terrorist' done it? it was actualy the Serbian army and paramilitry.
Slowly but surely it will come time when you will,as your former president Tadic say sorry to all the crimes and genocide been commited during Yugoslav war. yes he did say sorry to Croatia yes he did say sorry to Bosnia - ashemed. yes they will be ashamed and say sorry to Kosovo. before they decide to meed with our presidents or prime ministers and so on.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The Tadic Agreement needs preferably to go to the bin, but it needs to at the very least be shelved because the New Negotiations that Must be Genuine will Supersede the Non Genuine Tadic Agreement, because it is the Only Way for both Parties to the Genuine Negotiations to Fully Believe and Understand that All Options Must be and Are on the table, because that is in the Nature of All Genuine Negotiation, and Serbia should not commence any Negotiations until the basic Structures have been put in place for Genuine Negotiations.
(Yet Another J S, 26 July 2012 11:04)

Yet Another J S,

Negotiations ended long ago. Wake up and smell the coffee. Rambouillet was 13 years ago and was the last chance for Serbia to negotiate over Kosova. If you don't get it through your head then only you will lose. The dogs bark and the caravan moves on.

Engineer

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 26 July 2012 19:28)

Ari have you ever fought in war? or been a part of war?

You seem to just want war every day but I do not think you understand how painful war is.

Nikolic said the other day I will never be a President of Kosovo and lovely resolution 1244 says Serbian Army is not allowed to come 5miles near Kosovo.

Talk is cheap from you or Nikolic but I hope he is not stupid like hunger strike the moment he sends that military down he has Broken Kumanovo Agreement just think what will happen.

For the time being he is not allowed the rest is talk and wet dream but hey let him try or you for that matter.

If 1244 was so good for Serbia why did they call it capitulation just like Hungarians had too pull out of Vojvodina I am sure there are Hungarian Ari's wanting it back but its not going is it.

But hey go get it man Kosovo is not going any place and it belongs to those who live there I am sure you are living thousands of miles away and have found this as a addiction to feel pride, what will change in your life who is in charge in kosovo just think.

Man one day you will be gone and from this earth and who knows in 500years maybe someone totally different will live in that Area Chinese or Indian and you have just hated for no reason.

Dont you get it this is a tool by Politicians in Serbia and Kosovo to occupy people from nightmare of poverty so Patriotism is free and gives them something to direct the hate.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

whatever the reason is Ari Gold, he cannot enter a territory he supposedly presides over without permission. shows you how much he is President of that territory eh? as for the rest of your barbs, yes, its easy for you to write that from your armchair. what can I say, its better to get others to do the fighting for you isn't it :-) ?

ecoman

pre 11 godina

naim neziri, are you ashamed for the crimes committed by the terrorist group KLA? The murdered innocent civilians while sitting at outdoor cafes, simply because they were Serbs. Are you ashamed that Albanians are still killing Serbs throughout Kosovo? Albanians are not the innocent victims in this battle for Kosovo, they have tried to ethnically cleanse Serbs from KiM for over 100 years, are you ashamed of that, naim? And no, Nikolic has no reason to shake jagada's palm up hand, what for?

naim neziri

pre 11 godina

Ecoman. now we are living in a peace time. innocent civilians killed is sad and every one should be panished-no single doubt about that.
militry, paramilitry,criminals been killed in the war its accepted according to the international war law.
I am sure you remember 1998/99 when so many Albanian villiges wiped out of the ground. civilians killed everything alive burned to the ground. by who? ohh boy you are not gonna tell me is done by'kla' ''terrorists'' it has been been commited by serbs forces.
You should be ashamed as your former president Tadic and say sorry for the crimes commited to the former Yugoslav territories.
Yes he did say sorry to Croatia, yes he did say sorry to Bosnia and slowly but surely they will say sorry to Kosovo before he decides to meet our representatives. president or prime ministers or so.

Illyrian Lover

pre 11 godina

The absurdity of why Kosova should not be independent as a nation can be found with the recent developments in Montenegro. The real question the Serbian politicians need to ask themselves and more importantly to just to the rest of the civilized world is, “how can a country such as Montenegro the size of 600,000 and claim to be of Slavic origin seek to separate themselves from their brethren and seek independence and achieve independence”? Yet, a country the size of two million plus where the population is indigenous to the area and have no lineage to Serbs are prevented from freedom of choice and basic human rights”?

The Serbian elite need to ask themselves, “why would a small country like Montenegro which supposedly shares the same ethnicity, religion, language, etc., want to break lineage and secede from a big part of themselves?” Perhaps, the reason is that they may not be what they seem to be and understand this to be a “true” fact.

Logically, and from a sociology principles, whereby societies try to keep their unique culture and entity, etc; societies resist assimilation to other groups unless forced do so.

The latter is the main reason why most Kosovars actually adopted Islam. Albanian Kosovars are actually the first Europeans to adapt to Christianity. From time to time the question arises, “why did the Albanian Kosovars convert to Islam, whereas the Greeks/Serbs did not”?

The answer is very simple to comprehend!

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Naim, if the terrorist KLA had not gone around killing innocent people, Albanians would have had their rears kicked by the Serbian army. Did the KLA think that Milosevic would do nothing? You KLA terrorists started it, so why are you calling yourselves victims now? But it was all orchestrated so Milosevic would respond, opening the door for NATO. He fell into the CIA's plan. BTW, albanians have emptied hundreds of Serb villages throughout history - do I feel sorry for you, no. Apologize first for buddying up with the Turks, and the WWII nazi's, and some reconciliation may start.

Reader

pre 11 godina

sounds a bit too good to be true. let's wait and see. Every contact is welcome, the higher the level of the meetings the better.

LOL

pre 11 godina

No, of course not. You are cowards who talk sh*t behind a much larger force who will leave and then the KLA will get crushed like the cockroaches they are.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2012 19:28)
As said while peeping out from the skirt tails of mother Russia!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

explain why he needs permission to visit Serbia's southern 'province'. it seems to me, the weak and feeble mind is yours
(Nikolle, 26 July 2012 11:54)

Yeah but be realistic, is that because you Albanians are independently strong enough to keep Nikolic from visiting whatever he wishes?

No, of course not. You are cowards who talk sh*t behind a much larger force who will leave and then the KLA will get crushed like the cockroaches they are.

j

pre 11 godina

do I feel sorry for you, no. Apologize first for buddying up with the Turks, and the WWII nazi's, and some reconciliation may start.
(ecoman, 26 July 2012 20:40)

Ecoman, no need to go into these rants. Analyzing it for just a little bit, from your own perspective, what you say above is illogical.

First of all, you Serbs claim that we came to Kosova, with the Turks. Let's agree with that for a second.
Now if we indeed were brought by the Turks then why shouldn't we have buddied up to them. Wouldn't this be the natural thing to do. So why would you be angry with that? Are you angry with RS for buddying up with Serbia? They did come with Serbia didn't they?

If indeed we didn't come with the Turks, then why we and the Hungarians were the only ones fighting for 25 years while you were marrying their princes?

I would have no problem apologizing for the perception of buddying up to the Turks,if what you state was reasonable. Reformulate your request.

Also, at the very basic level Nationalism is nothing else but loyalty towards real estate; so chill a little. Being overly emotional on an internet board is not normal.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

The Serbian Province of Kosovo does not belong only to the People who live there, but it belongs to all the People of the UN Country of Serbia.

For Clarification and to leave any ambiguities, this Country of Serbia is what can be termed as Serbia Proper, plus Serbia’s Province of Kosovo, which was reconfirmed to belong to the Country of Serbia by means of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244.

We now know to whom the Serbian Province of Kosovo belongs, and everyone knows this to be the truth.

Some Countries have their Terrorists, Liars, and Criminals, and in the Country of Serbia, many of these are presently of Albanian Ethnicity.

The Albanians have made up false stories of how they were mistreated, because they are either deluded to think that they are pure, or that they can engage in Criminal thinking and behaviour with impunity , because they have the world’s Greatest Mafia, which is the America Government assisting their brother Criminals.

Perhaps the Albanians had a decade’s long plan after WW 2 to cause trouble, and to be prepared to evacuate Kosovo temporarily, in order to look like the victims who deserved independence.

To fight Terrorists, the Pakistani Government evacuated more of its own Citizens and for a longer, than what happened in Kosovo Albanians, and those people were not granted independence.

The Kosovo Albanians are Serbian Citizens, who need to renounce their Terrorism, Lies, and Criminality, before there can be Genuine Negotiations.

grobar1

pre 11 godina

@ engineer you albo trolls like to talk a lot of bs the SERBS IN KOSOVO DO NOT NEED THE SERBIAN ARMY they can clean up KOSOVO in a matter of days by them selves ......

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

...Because he wants to take Kosovo from Serbs and give it to Albanians completely, while the others don't.
(aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:44)...

Wake up!
Albanians r running things in Kosova now.
There is nothong to give to Albanians.
They already have it.

Dardan

pre 11 godina

"Some Countries have their Terrorists, Liars, and Criminals, and in the Country of Serbia, many of these are presently of Albanian Ethnicity. "

actually its the other way around.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

The only exception I find Čedomir Jovanović because he speak openly to Serbian people what he thinks.
(EA, 26 July 2012 10:48)

Because he wants to take Kosovo from Serbs and give it to Albanians completely, while the others don't.

EA

pre 11 godina

"...the president’s goal was to reach an agreement that would later be adopted by parliament and that would be binding for all Serbian representatives that took part in any talks regarding the southern Serbian province."

This kind of president can be anything but NOT a leader. The Serbian politics is full of crap when it comes to Kosovo issue. The only exception I find Čedomir Jovanović because he speak openly to Serbian people what he thinks. The rest are scared to death to tell and accept the truth about Kosovo.

Have the current Serbian leaders have the guts to go and take Kosovo by force...I really doubt because Kosovo is much much stronger than what it was before the last war and it will have the full support in everything from Albania and Macedonia so the military option will be suicidal for Serbia.

I agree with Thaci saying that Serbian must implement the previous agreement before and new talks.

naim neziri

pre 11 godina

you got no brave to meet our precidned. you will feel ashamed of your crimes your country did thats why you don't meet.
you must be brave enough and not to run away from the meetings.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

...funny Ari Gold, all countries to have recognized Kosova, Miss Jahjaga is referred to as President by them :-). you know what however, if you believe Nikolic to be President of Kosovo too (by virtue of Kosovo being a part of Serbia) explain why he needs permission to visit Serbia's southern 'province'. it seems to me, the weak and feeble mind is yours

Aleks

pre 11 godina

@EA

seriously do all albanians live in some demented dream world or maybe its your corrupt and criminal/mafia government that sells you drugs that makes you so delusional ... serbia is the strongest country militarily in the balkans and could easily crush any force that kosovo has like it did the last time cuz the only reason serbs forces are still not in kosovo was becasue of nato and not albanians ... that is a joke that kosovo, albania and macedonia could take on serbia, serbia would obliterate them in a heartbeat and besides macedonia is likely not gonna go into a war to support albanians, it has enough problems with greece and with albanians within macedonia that its not gonna get involved with serbia ... if you think that no serb politicans have the guts to put serb troops back into kosovo youve got another thing coming ... its only a matter of time before the serbian army reenters kosovo and takes ALL of it back as the politcans are entrusted to defend the serbian constitution and any poltican that doesnt gets ousted like tadic ... a fool like jovanovic will never even come into power and in case you didnt notice the nationalists are in power now, so life for you albanians is about to get a whole lot harder .. throughout history all invaders that have tried to take over serbia have failed and been driven out, albanians will suffer the same fate as the ottomans, hapsburgs and nazi/fascists that came before them

ecoman

pre 11 godina

"The rest are scared to death to tell and accept the truth about Kosovo"
"Have the current Serbian leaders have the guts to go and take Kosovo by force" EA (ethnic albanian, I presume)
I don't know what this truth is that you albanians keep talking about, that Serbian citizens are not aware of? Do you not think that they read the news, and they even have the internet now. You get real, whoever you are.
As for taking Kosovo back by force, no one talks of that. I don't know where you get your info. Serbia does not want to rule you albanians, it just does recognize KiM as an independent nation, simple. It must also protect its interests there - namely its people and heritage. You're very aggressive, why? BTW, you want Ceda, you can have him.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

With genuine Negotiations, we do not know what the end result will be, but that is in the Nature of all Genuine Negotiations: their outcome is unknown in advance.

We know that there were many restrictions on the Negotiations in the past, and Euro America said that partition was not allowed, but Serbia Must insist that it be an Option, but we do not know if it will be mutually agreed to, until after the Genuine Negotiations commence.

Serbia should not accept anything less than Genuine Negotiations, and to have Genuine Negotiations, you Must have All of the Structures in place Before the Genuine Negotiations commence.

I want to say that partition is only one of Several Options, and one Basic Fundamental Non Negotiable Principle in all Genuine Negotiations, that All Options Must be on the table.

The SAA Agreement is needed, because the Option of Serbia joining the European Union Must be on the table.

The Kumanovo Agreement must be scrapped because the Option of partition must be on the table, and it is the Only Way for both Parties to the Genuine Negotiations to Fully Believe and Understand that partition is one of the Several Options on the table.

The Tadic Agreement needs preferably to go to the bin, but it needs to at the very least be shelved because the New Negotiations that Must be Genuine will Supersede the Non Genuine Tadic Agreement, because it is the Only Way for both Parties to the Genuine Negotiations to Fully Believe and Understand that All Options Must be and Are on the table, because that is in the Nature of All Genuine Negotiation, and Serbia should not commence any Negotiations until the basic Structures have been put in place for Genuine Negotiations.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The Tadic Agreement needs preferably to go to the bin, but it needs to at the very least be shelved because the New Negotiations that Must be Genuine will Supersede the Non Genuine Tadic Agreement, because it is the Only Way for both Parties to the Genuine Negotiations to Fully Believe and Understand that All Options Must be and Are on the table, because that is in the Nature of All Genuine Negotiation, and Serbia should not commence any Negotiations until the basic Structures have been put in place for Genuine Negotiations.
(Yet Another J S, 26 July 2012 11:04)

Yet Another J S,

Negotiations ended long ago. Wake up and smell the coffee. Rambouillet was 13 years ago and was the last chance for Serbia to negotiate over Kosova. If you don't get it through your head then only you will lose. The dogs bark and the caravan moves on.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Naim, if the terrorist KLA had not gone around killing innocent people, Albanians would have had their rears kicked by the Serbian army. Did the KLA think that Milosevic would do nothing? You KLA terrorists started it, so why are you calling yourselves victims now? But it was all orchestrated so Milosevic would respond, opening the door for NATO. He fell into the CIA's plan. BTW, albanians have emptied hundreds of Serb villages throughout history - do I feel sorry for you, no. Apologize first for buddying up with the Turks, and the WWII nazi's, and some reconciliation may start.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

naim neziri, are you ashamed for the crimes committed by the terrorist group KLA? The murdered innocent civilians while sitting at outdoor cafes, simply because they were Serbs. Are you ashamed that Albanians are still killing Serbs throughout Kosovo? Albanians are not the innocent victims in this battle for Kosovo, they have tried to ethnically cleanse Serbs from KiM for over 100 years, are you ashamed of that, naim? And no, Nikolic has no reason to shake jagada's palm up hand, what for?

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

explain why he needs permission to visit Serbia's southern 'province'. it seems to me, the weak and feeble mind is yours
(Nikolle, 26 July 2012 11:54)

Yeah but be realistic, is that because you Albanians are independently strong enough to keep Nikolic from visiting whatever he wishes?

No, of course not. You are cowards who talk sh*t behind a much larger force who will leave and then the KLA will get crushed like the cockroaches they are.

Illyrian Lover

pre 11 godina

The absurdity of why Kosova should not be independent as a nation can be found with the recent developments in Montenegro. The real question the Serbian politicians need to ask themselves and more importantly to just to the rest of the civilized world is, “how can a country such as Montenegro the size of 600,000 and claim to be of Slavic origin seek to separate themselves from their brethren and seek independence and achieve independence”? Yet, a country the size of two million plus where the population is indigenous to the area and have no lineage to Serbs are prevented from freedom of choice and basic human rights”?

The Serbian elite need to ask themselves, “why would a small country like Montenegro which supposedly shares the same ethnicity, religion, language, etc., want to break lineage and secede from a big part of themselves?” Perhaps, the reason is that they may not be what they seem to be and understand this to be a “true” fact.

Logically, and from a sociology principles, whereby societies try to keep their unique culture and entity, etc; societies resist assimilation to other groups unless forced do so.

The latter is the main reason why most Kosovars actually adopted Islam. Albanian Kosovars are actually the first Europeans to adapt to Christianity. From time to time the question arises, “why did the Albanian Kosovars convert to Islam, whereas the Greeks/Serbs did not”?

The answer is very simple to comprehend!

naim neziri

pre 11 godina

ecoman. now we are in a peace time war is war innocent people been killed is sad. criminals paramilitry,militry criminals been killed in the war is accepted according to the international war law.
probably and I am sure you remember these days of 1998/99 when the whole Albanian villages been wiped out, houses burned civilians killed everything alive been destry to the ground. from who? oh boy ur not gonna tellme the 'KLA'terrorist' done it? it was actualy the Serbian army and paramilitry.
Slowly but surely it will come time when you will,as your former president Tadic say sorry to all the crimes and genocide been commited during Yugoslav war. yes he did say sorry to Croatia yes he did say sorry to Bosnia - ashemed. yes they will be ashamed and say sorry to Kosovo. before they decide to meed with our presidents or prime ministers and so on.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

whatever the reason is Ari Gold, he cannot enter a territory he supposedly presides over without permission. shows you how much he is President of that territory eh? as for the rest of your barbs, yes, its easy for you to write that from your armchair. what can I say, its better to get others to do the fighting for you isn't it :-) ?

naim neziri

pre 11 godina

Ecoman. now we are living in a peace time. innocent civilians killed is sad and every one should be panished-no single doubt about that.
militry, paramilitry,criminals been killed in the war its accepted according to the international war law.
I am sure you remember 1998/99 when so many Albanian villiges wiped out of the ground. civilians killed everything alive burned to the ground. by who? ohh boy you are not gonna tell me is done by'kla' ''terrorists'' it has been been commited by serbs forces.
You should be ashamed as your former president Tadic and say sorry for the crimes commited to the former Yugoslav territories.
Yes he did say sorry to Croatia, yes he did say sorry to Bosnia and slowly but surely they will say sorry to Kosovo before he decides to meet our representatives. president or prime ministers or so.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

The Serbian Province of Kosovo does not belong only to the People who live there, but it belongs to all the People of the UN Country of Serbia.

For Clarification and to leave any ambiguities, this Country of Serbia is what can be termed as Serbia Proper, plus Serbia’s Province of Kosovo, which was reconfirmed to belong to the Country of Serbia by means of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244.

We now know to whom the Serbian Province of Kosovo belongs, and everyone knows this to be the truth.

Some Countries have their Terrorists, Liars, and Criminals, and in the Country of Serbia, many of these are presently of Albanian Ethnicity.

The Albanians have made up false stories of how they were mistreated, because they are either deluded to think that they are pure, or that they can engage in Criminal thinking and behaviour with impunity , because they have the world’s Greatest Mafia, which is the America Government assisting their brother Criminals.

Perhaps the Albanians had a decade’s long plan after WW 2 to cause trouble, and to be prepared to evacuate Kosovo temporarily, in order to look like the victims who deserved independence.

To fight Terrorists, the Pakistani Government evacuated more of its own Citizens and for a longer, than what happened in Kosovo Albanians, and those people were not granted independence.

The Kosovo Albanians are Serbian Citizens, who need to renounce their Terrorism, Lies, and Criminality, before there can be Genuine Negotiations.

Engineer

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 26 July 2012 19:28)

Ari have you ever fought in war? or been a part of war?

You seem to just want war every day but I do not think you understand how painful war is.

Nikolic said the other day I will never be a President of Kosovo and lovely resolution 1244 says Serbian Army is not allowed to come 5miles near Kosovo.

Talk is cheap from you or Nikolic but I hope he is not stupid like hunger strike the moment he sends that military down he has Broken Kumanovo Agreement just think what will happen.

For the time being he is not allowed the rest is talk and wet dream but hey let him try or you for that matter.

If 1244 was so good for Serbia why did they call it capitulation just like Hungarians had too pull out of Vojvodina I am sure there are Hungarian Ari's wanting it back but its not going is it.

But hey go get it man Kosovo is not going any place and it belongs to those who live there I am sure you are living thousands of miles away and have found this as a addiction to feel pride, what will change in your life who is in charge in kosovo just think.

Man one day you will be gone and from this earth and who knows in 500years maybe someone totally different will live in that Area Chinese or Indian and you have just hated for no reason.

Dont you get it this is a tool by Politicians in Serbia and Kosovo to occupy people from nightmare of poverty so Patriotism is free and gives them something to direct the hate.

Reader

pre 11 godina

sounds a bit too good to be true. let's wait and see. Every contact is welcome, the higher the level of the meetings the better.

LOL

pre 11 godina

No, of course not. You are cowards who talk sh*t behind a much larger force who will leave and then the KLA will get crushed like the cockroaches they are.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2012 19:28)
As said while peeping out from the skirt tails of mother Russia!

j

pre 11 godina

do I feel sorry for you, no. Apologize first for buddying up with the Turks, and the WWII nazi's, and some reconciliation may start.
(ecoman, 26 July 2012 20:40)

Ecoman, no need to go into these rants. Analyzing it for just a little bit, from your own perspective, what you say above is illogical.

First of all, you Serbs claim that we came to Kosova, with the Turks. Let's agree with that for a second.
Now if we indeed were brought by the Turks then why shouldn't we have buddied up to them. Wouldn't this be the natural thing to do. So why would you be angry with that? Are you angry with RS for buddying up with Serbia? They did come with Serbia didn't they?

If indeed we didn't come with the Turks, then why we and the Hungarians were the only ones fighting for 25 years while you were marrying their princes?

I would have no problem apologizing for the perception of buddying up to the Turks,if what you state was reasonable. Reformulate your request.

Also, at the very basic level Nationalism is nothing else but loyalty towards real estate; so chill a little. Being overly emotional on an internet board is not normal.

Dardan

pre 11 godina

"Some Countries have their Terrorists, Liars, and Criminals, and in the Country of Serbia, many of these are presently of Albanian Ethnicity. "

actually its the other way around.

grobar1

pre 11 godina

@ engineer you albo trolls like to talk a lot of bs the SERBS IN KOSOVO DO NOT NEED THE SERBIAN ARMY they can clean up KOSOVO in a matter of days by them selves ......

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

The only exception I find Čedomir Jovanović because he speak openly to Serbian people what he thinks.
(EA, 26 July 2012 10:48)

Because he wants to take Kosovo from Serbs and give it to Albanians completely, while the others don't.

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

...Because he wants to take Kosovo from Serbs and give it to Albanians completely, while the others don't.
(aaayyy, 27 July 2012 17:44)...

Wake up!
Albanians r running things in Kosova now.
There is nothong to give to Albanians.
They already have it.