Serb leader speaks against "rushing with Kosovo solution"

"220,000 Serbs had been forced out "

if thse numbers were true, you'd not have a single serb living in Kosova today. more lies, like always

ecoman

italy has more claims to the whole of Serbia never mind Kosova than you do. you lot came from russia and settled in what was the Roman Empire. do the right thing and give Serbia back to the Italians. as for the rest of your self pitying post, i have one word to say wrote to you can't make us leave. we're here and it eats and kills you but there is not a thing you can do about it

According to the last census organized by Serbian government itself in 1991, there were 191 000 Serbs in Kosovo. With the birth rate that Serbs are experiencing, there is virtually no possibility that the abovementioned figure more than doubled in 7 years (1998-1999 war). Since about 180 000 Serbs still live in Kosovo, the 225 000 thousand figure does not stand. It is however quite possible that Milosevic may have filled up Kosovo with Serbian izbeglica (refugees) from other parts of Yugoslavia in an attempt to give them shelter and attempt to alter the ethnic composition of Kosovo. If that is the case, those Serbs never were inhabitants of Kosovo but were more or less temporary refugees, who saw that there was no future for them in Kosovo in the post Milisevic era.

I agree, slow everything down, and drag it on for 50 years if need be. But never give Serbian land and heritage away. The land does not belong to the Albanians, they have little historical proof they were there, besides their BS Illyrian claim. And you, US, you have no claim to KiM at all, zero.

"I agree, slow everything down, and drag it on for 50 years if need be."

ecoman, if you slow down Kosovo, you automatically slow down Serbia and the whole Balkans... If you want that, good for you. But its not in the favor of those living there. Everything is connected to each other, dont forget that...

oh no ivan, i'm here to educate you. serbia's own census on Kosova, published in 1997 shows less than 200000 Serbs living there, hence why this figure is wrong. dont worry, we're used to seeing you lie left right and centre. as for the evil empire, that fell 20 years ago, it was call the soviet union

by your thinking it is ecoman. your whole argument for kosova is we were there before albanians. well italians were in serbia before you, so you know...pack your bags and head off back to Siberia. you'll get used the cold temperatures in no time. as for me going back to Turkey, you can't make me and you never will be able to :)

ecoman
ofcourse, thats why the serbians painted albanians with traditional albanian clothing in the serb migration only.where are the serbs, oops the soldiors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Menekulo_szerbek.JPG
saint angelina of serbia was albanian
and not to forget EV-13 is albanian dna which the serbians have at 20% and the fact that the serbians went and colonised greece with albanians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Angelina_of_Serbia
really you should just openly say you dont want albanians in on that territory regardless of history. i dont have a problem with that honesty is a good start

ivan,
the evil empire did fall under milosovic. we are free

if thse numbers were true, you'd not have a single serb living in Kosova today. more lies, like always
(Dardan, 17 July 2012 13:25)

No one is forcing you to come to this site and read all these "lies." If the news bothers you so much, than frequent an Albanian forum and let the Serbs "lie" amongst themselves, afterall, it's their country. You Albanian trolls come to a Serbian forum only to spew your venom. If an issue does not agree with you, come up with something intellegent, but that is something you lack. You are riding high and mighty on the evil empire's coat tails, but like every empire, the evil empire will also fall, and we'll see where you'll find yourselves then.

KFOR is the extension of the West and the USA!
I can only find fault with the Serbs, not Albanians!

Well, Dardanian, you go back to Turkey where you came from. http://en.trend.az/news/society/2028489.html?
Rome was an empire that conquered most of Europe and the near East, are you saying all that land belongs to Italy now? That's quite a stretch, my junior historian. Albanians have settled, and over-populated the Balkans, especially KiM, that is your only claim to Kosovo. You have zero history there, none. There are no artifacts or physical evidence to dispute that. You only cling on to the extinct ancient tribes of the Illyrians - and that's a stretch. What's to say Serbs are not Illyrians also? At least we have ancient proof to KiM, Albanians do not. So I would suggest you head down to your ancient Turkish Islamic brothers. That is your homeland. No one wants you in Europe - including the Germans, believe me. They may dislike you the most.

The man is absolutely correct. Nothing is more counterproductive to Serbia's long term interests than the partition noise coming from the supposed nationalists. Have patience; it took the Jews almost 2,000 years to liberate Jerusalem. We Orthodox Christians have waited half a millennium to end the occupation of Constantinople, almost achieving it a 100 years ago. And that day too will come. Relinquish your right to an inch of Kosovo and you will lose it all. Stay strong, time is on your side.

"The U.S. and EU are in a hurry because they know the new geopolitical map is to Serbia's advantage. That is why they want to close the Kosovo issue. We should not agree to any negotiations, but protect Serbdom and run our own policy." "

I have always said it, it is all ours not only the north. and time is working for Serbia.

they know that, and we should not rush, I do totally agree.

Jaksic is absolutely right, the geopolitical map is shifting and not in favour of the West. All Serbs need to do is be patient, indeed this is hard and painful but it has to be done, a good lasting solution in favour of the Serbs will come when power in the world shifts, and it is beginning slowly.

@Dardan, you are a funny individual, do you have a mental handicap at all? Your comments indicate that you might do.

@Ivan, thank you! It baffles me as well, as to why albanians come on to Serbian websites and comment, I have never once been on an albanian news site and left comments. I reckon these trolls really have nothing going on in their lives, really pathetic.

@Kenny, I dont think we need advice from you as to what is best for us, after all you are an outsider, worry about what are the interests of your own country,

To Ozzi:

My friend, Milosevic had it right all along, however, his timing was wrong. There was a drunk in the Kremelin at the time, he should've waited for Uncle Vlad. He did the right thing under the advice of Clinton, only to be back stabbed afterwords. The US did the same to Saddam Hussein, they told him to invade Kuwait, only to shaft him later. You see, those are your so called friends. The knife in the back is also waitng for the Albanians, it's only a question of time. I supported Milosevic's policies regarding Kosovo. If he was guilty of anything, he should answer to Serbian people, and not to a kangaroo court.

"If the news bothers you so much, than frequent an Albanian forum and let the Serbs "lie" amongst themselves, afterall, it's their country. "

As long as you want to post in Serbian, the Albanians and assorted non-aligned (i.e., non-Serb, non-Albanian) - at least, non-citizens - will leave you in peace. If you want to post in English, expect everybody to weigh in.

ecoman:

I generally like your commentary. My own views, as little as I am on here, are well established in regard to Serbia's territorial integrity. However, as much as we might have generally common perspectives on such things, I was bothered by your cheap, or at best condescending, historical sophistry in an earlier post; connecting Albanians with a Caucasian homeland. The Shqipëri, whatever their cultural ancestry might be, have as much to do with the Caucasian Albania of antiquity as Atlantans do with residents of Tbilisi, and you know it. Ironically, what made me call you on it, is that the Azerbjanies are using the myth an ancestral connection to the Caucasian Albanians to refute the Armenian title to not only Nagorno-Karabakh, but all or Armenia. Sounds familiar? All I am saying is, if you want your perspectives to maintain any level of integrity have respect for historic facts. Not all of us who read this are victims of Enver Hoxha's educational system.

Negotiations are inevitable, but should choose the moment!

Ivan,
Dont blame circumstances for the failure of an evil policy. That type of behavior will no longer be tolerated in Europe. If only you could have been there during the war, If only. Perhaps you would think differently.

"if you slow down Kosovo, you automatically slow down Serbia and the whole Balkans...But its not in the favor of those living there. Everything is connected to each other, dont forget that..."

Kenny

You are ight! Former Yug is connected regardless of all the wars. However, forcing one side to accept the will of the other in not going to spead up things either. The reason this porcess has been slowed down is thanks to Pristina and the West. You want a solution to be forced on the serbs. Without taking any consideration to their plight and needs. If this continues to be the case, then this part of the balkans will continue to be backward and poor.

Sergei, you have lost me. I don't know what the hell you are talking about. I am saying that the modern day Albanians are not from the Balkans, but from Turkey, Sicily, or God knows where. All I know is that they have no proof, in any kind of artifacts ever dug up, that they are from the Balkans. They claim to be Illyrians, so what? I can claim to be Ali Baba's great, great, great, great, grandchild, and it is your burden to disprove that. The Albanians are not Illyrians, why would they be? Why would the Illyrians stop being Illyrians, and then resurface as Albanians? Just think how stupid that sounds. As for Armenians, I support them too. They have been slaughtered by the Turks, and they are still seeking world recognition of that. For politics, many nations are dragging their feet on that fact.

So according to this guy the Serbs are the victims in Kosovo. How about we Albanians kill ten thousand Serbs and burn down your houses,rape your women and destroy the lives of the rest of you Serbs in Kosovo.Just to get at the same level of innocence with you.Then we can talk about living in peace with each other.

dardan, thanks for the enlighteing lesson.

strictly speaking italy is not rome. this was roman territory, not italian.
the adriactic coast of croatia is italian. italians still vote for the major of zadar.
however, while we're on that line of thought, it was also greek territory. interestingly enough greece is still greece, so perhaps you'd be willing to hand over albania back to greece.
furthermore, you're willing to accept census from yugoslavia.
in 15th century the numbers were something like this:
Of 24,795 names, 23,774 were ethnic Serb names, 470 of Roman origin, 65 of Albanian origin and 61 of Greek origin.
furthermore,
An Austrian statistics[32] published in 1899 estimated:
182,650 Albanians (47.88%)
166,700 Serbs (43.7%)

thats a very interesting increase in population over a few centuries, considering your claim is that the albainians have always been there. these numbers reflect migration, and or conversion not indiginous numbers.
in 1921 census we see:
Muslims: 329,502 (75.1%)
Orthodox Serb: 93,203 (21.2%)
1948 census, after albanian program of ethnicly cleansing serbs the numbers were:
498,242 Albanians (68.46%)
171,911 Serbs (23.62%)
then in 1971, 23 years later the numbers were:
916,168 Albanians or 73.7%[38]
228,264 Serbs (18.4%)

this growth rate is not indicative of natureal birth rates. suggesting that the population doubled in 23 years through birthrate is highly unlikely, which lead to immigration yet again.

Ecoman

You linked an Azerbaijani news article discussing an archeological dig in modern day Azerbaijan relating to the Caucasian state originating over 1,500 or so years ago known as Albania, and its later trade connections with the Turks. The state has nothing to do with the Shqipëri/Balkan Albanians but the coincidence of name.
The Azeries claim that Nagorno-Karabakh Armenians, along with many important Armenian historical figures, aren’t really Armenian but “Albanians” and that Azeries are a mixture of “Albanians” and Turks. They use the argument to suggest that modern day Armenians are outsiders/invaders of the region. Just keeping the ethno history straight.
And without opening a whole ‘nother can of warms, I do accept that the Shqipëri ancestry is Balkan, just not Kosovan. The Illyrians whose ancestry they claim were peripheral remnants isolated in the mountains cohabitating with goats, while the overwhelming majority adopted Greek or Roman culture before the birth of Christ, It is the later Illyrians who were eventually absorbed by the migrating Slavs, forming the Serbs, Croats, and so on. That's why I, as a Russian, am more likely to carry the R1a Haplogroup, than you. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

I completely agree,time is working for us Serbs :

Us is going down,Russia and China will own Europe in a few years,"freeze" and block "Kosovo" everywhere and "unfreeze" it when the time is right...
Unfortunately we did not solve the Albanian question in 1912 but we will in the future!

In the meantime lets homogenize and strengthen Serbia!

@Ivan, thank you! It baffles me as well, as to why albanians come on to Serbian websites and comment, I have never once been on an albanian news site and left comments. I reckon these trolls really have nothing going on in their lives, really pathetic.
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I know why they come here when we don't go over there. They have an incredible need to irritate, infiltrate and disrupt.
They live to annoy. Always show up at places they are not wanted. There must be a faulty gene there somewhere.

If he was guilty of anything, he should answer to Serbian people, and not to a kangaroo court.
(ivan, 17 July 2012 17:41)

Very wise words... I'm sure that Russia & co. who made the kangaroo court will listen to you :)

Rome was an empire that conquered most of Europe and the near East, are you saying all that land belongs to Italy now? That's quite a stretch, my junior historian.
(ecoman, 17 July 2012 15:11)

that's not a stretch at all according to Serbs... we're hearing here that Kosovo belongs to Serbs because they came there before the Albanians. By the same logic, Kosovo (and most of Europe) belongs to Italy because Romans were there before Serbs.

--They live to annoy. Always show up at places they are not wanted. There must be a faulty gene there somewhere.
Peggy

You nailed it. Another example, they go to sporting events with albanian flags but there are no albanians compeating.

You nailed it. Another example, they go to sporting events with albanian flags but there are no albanians compeating.
(Hankt the Tank, 18 July 2012 20:35)

Hank, last time I checked its the Serbs who bring the flag of the state of Albania in such games. The latest one was the friendly against Spain, where the Albanian flag was burned by Serb fans. UEFA is involved in this; your federation will be paying a fine pretty soon. Before that it was the game against Italy where the Albanian flag was burned. Mind you, Albania wasn't even playing in any of these games. What is wrong with you people? I don't know about you but last time I went to a Giants game I didn't bring a Serb flag with me and then proceeded to burn it.

ecoman,only 1 hour from where I grew up in Albania there is the city of Pelion, old Illyrian tribe. The thousand years old burial sites are still there, in the walls of the mountain. We're talking about a tribe that was there at the time of the King Bardhyllis (bardh=white Yllis= Star in Albanian). Another half hour from there there are 4000 years old burial sites in Maliq. Follow the excavators working on our highways. Plenty of burial sites along the Egnatia. Ancient Greek historians talk about the Albani tribe.As long as Kosova is there, even if I brought back an Illyrian to life and he spoke Albanian you will deny his existence. Prior to Milosevic, Serb historians claimed Albanians were natives. Why the change in history with the change in politics?

I agree, slow everything down, and drag it on for 50 years if need be. But never give Serbian land and heritage away. The land does not belong to the Albanians, they have little historical proof they were there, besides their BS Illyrian claim. And you, US, you have no claim to KiM at all, zero.

"220,000 Serbs had been forced out "

if thse numbers were true, you'd not have a single serb living in Kosova today. more lies, like always

Well, Dardanian, you go back to Turkey where you came from. http://en.trend.az/news/society/2028489.html?
Rome was an empire that conquered most of Europe and the near East, are you saying all that land belongs to Italy now? That's quite a stretch, my junior historian. Albanians have settled, and over-populated the Balkans, especially KiM, that is your only claim to Kosovo. You have zero history there, none. There are no artifacts or physical evidence to dispute that. You only cling on to the extinct ancient tribes of the Illyrians - and that's a stretch. What's to say Serbs are not Illyrians also? At least we have ancient proof to KiM, Albanians do not. So I would suggest you head down to your ancient Turkish Islamic brothers. That is your homeland. No one wants you in Europe - including the Germans, believe me. They may dislike you the most.

ecoman

italy has more claims to the whole of Serbia never mind Kosova than you do. you lot came from russia and settled in what was the Roman Empire. do the right thing and give Serbia back to the Italians. as for the rest of your self pitying post, i have one word to say wrote to you can't make us leave. we're here and it eats and kills you but there is not a thing you can do about it

if thse numbers were true, you'd not have a single serb living in Kosova today. more lies, like always
(Dardan, 17 July 2012 13:25)

No one is forcing you to come to this site and read all these "lies." If the news bothers you so much, than frequent an Albanian forum and let the Serbs "lie" amongst themselves, afterall, it's their country. You Albanian trolls come to a Serbian forum only to spew your venom. If an issue does not agree with you, come up with something intellegent, but that is something you lack. You are riding high and mighty on the evil empire's coat tails, but like every empire, the evil empire will also fall, and we'll see where you'll find yourselves then.

Jaksic is absolutely right, the geopolitical map is shifting and not in favour of the West. All Serbs need to do is be patient, indeed this is hard and painful but it has to be done, a good lasting solution in favour of the Serbs will come when power in the world shifts, and it is beginning slowly.

@Dardan, you are a funny individual, do you have a mental handicap at all? Your comments indicate that you might do.

@Ivan, thank you! It baffles me as well, as to why albanians come on to Serbian websites and comment, I have never once been on an albanian news site and left comments. I reckon these trolls really have nothing going on in their lives, really pathetic.

@Kenny, I dont think we need advice from you as to what is best for us, after all you are an outsider, worry about what are the interests of your own country,

"The U.S. and EU are in a hurry because they know the new geopolitical map is to Serbia's advantage. That is why they want to close the Kosovo issue. We should not agree to any negotiations, but protect Serbdom and run our own policy." "

I have always said it, it is all ours not only the north. and time is working for Serbia.

they know that, and we should not rush, I do totally agree.

To Ozzi:

My friend, Milosevic had it right all along, however, his timing was wrong. There was a drunk in the Kremelin at the time, he should've waited for Uncle Vlad. He did the right thing under the advice of Clinton, only to be back stabbed afterwords. The US did the same to Saddam Hussein, they told him to invade Kuwait, only to shaft him later. You see, those are your so called friends. The knife in the back is also waitng for the Albanians, it's only a question of time. I supported Milosevic's policies regarding Kosovo. If he was guilty of anything, he should answer to Serbian people, and not to a kangaroo court.

"I agree, slow everything down, and drag it on for 50 years if need be."

ecoman, if you slow down Kosovo, you automatically slow down Serbia and the whole Balkans... If you want that, good for you. But its not in the favor of those living there. Everything is connected to each other, dont forget that...

oh no ivan, i'm here to educate you. serbia's own census on Kosova, published in 1997 shows less than 200000 Serbs living there, hence why this figure is wrong. dont worry, we're used to seeing you lie left right and centre. as for the evil empire, that fell 20 years ago, it was call the soviet union

by your thinking it is ecoman. your whole argument for kosova is we were there before albanians. well italians were in serbia before you, so you know...pack your bags and head off back to Siberia. you'll get used the cold temperatures in no time. as for me going back to Turkey, you can't make me and you never will be able to :)

Sergei, you have lost me. I don't know what the hell you are talking about. I am saying that the modern day Albanians are not from the Balkans, but from Turkey, Sicily, or God knows where. All I know is that they have no proof, in any kind of artifacts ever dug up, that they are from the Balkans. They claim to be Illyrians, so what? I can claim to be Ali Baba's great, great, great, great, grandchild, and it is your burden to disprove that. The Albanians are not Illyrians, why would they be? Why would the Illyrians stop being Illyrians, and then resurface as Albanians? Just think how stupid that sounds. As for Armenians, I support them too. They have been slaughtered by the Turks, and they are still seeking world recognition of that. For politics, many nations are dragging their feet on that fact.

KFOR is the extension of the West and the USA!
I can only find fault with the Serbs, not Albanians!

The man is absolutely correct. Nothing is more counterproductive to Serbia's long term interests than the partition noise coming from the supposed nationalists. Have patience; it took the Jews almost 2,000 years to liberate Jerusalem. We Orthodox Christians have waited half a millennium to end the occupation of Constantinople, almost achieving it a 100 years ago. And that day too will come. Relinquish your right to an inch of Kosovo and you will lose it all. Stay strong, time is on your side.

According to the last census organized by Serbian government itself in 1991, there were 191 000 Serbs in Kosovo. With the birth rate that Serbs are experiencing, there is virtually no possibility that the abovementioned figure more than doubled in 7 years (1998-1999 war). Since about 180 000 Serbs still live in Kosovo, the 225 000 thousand figure does not stand. It is however quite possible that Milosevic may have filled up Kosovo with Serbian izbeglica (refugees) from other parts of Yugoslavia in an attempt to give them shelter and attempt to alter the ethnic composition of Kosovo. If that is the case, those Serbs never were inhabitants of Kosovo but were more or less temporary refugees, who saw that there was no future for them in Kosovo in the post Milisevic era.

"If the news bothers you so much, than frequent an Albanian forum and let the Serbs "lie" amongst themselves, afterall, it's their country. "

As long as you want to post in Serbian, the Albanians and assorted non-aligned (i.e., non-Serb, non-Albanian) - at least, non-citizens - will leave you in peace. If you want to post in English, expect everybody to weigh in.

So according to this guy the Serbs are the victims in Kosovo. How about we Albanians kill ten thousand Serbs and burn down your houses,rape your women and destroy the lives of the rest of you Serbs in Kosovo.Just to get at the same level of innocence with you.Then we can talk about living in peace with each other.

Negotiations are inevitable, but should choose the moment!

ecoman
ofcourse, thats why the serbians painted albanians with traditional albanian clothing in the serb migration only.where are the serbs, oops the soldiors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Menekulo_szerbek.JPG
saint angelina of serbia was albanian
and not to forget EV-13 is albanian dna which the serbians have at 20% and the fact that the serbians went and colonised greece with albanians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Angelina_of_Serbia
really you should just openly say you dont want albanians in on that territory regardless of history. i dont have a problem with that honesty is a good start

ivan,
the evil empire did fall under milosovic. we are free

"if you slow down Kosovo, you automatically slow down Serbia and the whole Balkans...But its not in the favor of those living there. Everything is connected to each other, dont forget that..."

Kenny

You are ight! Former Yug is connected regardless of all the wars. However, forcing one side to accept the will of the other in not going to spead up things either. The reason this porcess has been slowed down is thanks to Pristina and the West. You want a solution to be forced on the serbs. Without taking any consideration to their plight and needs. If this continues to be the case, then this part of the balkans will continue to be backward and poor.

ecoman:

I generally like your commentary. My own views, as little as I am on here, are well established in regard to Serbia's territorial integrity. However, as much as we might have generally common perspectives on such things, I was bothered by your cheap, or at best condescending, historical sophistry in an earlier post; connecting Albanians with a Caucasian homeland. The Shqipëri, whatever their cultural ancestry might be, have as much to do with the Caucasian Albania of antiquity as Atlantans do with residents of Tbilisi, and you know it. Ironically, what made me call you on it, is that the Azerbjanies are using the myth an ancestral connection to the Caucasian Albanians to refute the Armenian title to not only Nagorno-Karabakh, but all or Armenia. Sounds familiar? All I am saying is, if you want your perspectives to maintain any level of integrity have respect for historic facts. Not all of us who read this are victims of Enver Hoxha's educational system.

dardan, thanks for the enlighteing lesson.

strictly speaking italy is not rome. this was roman territory, not italian.
the adriactic coast of croatia is italian. italians still vote for the major of zadar.
however, while we're on that line of thought, it was also greek territory. interestingly enough greece is still greece, so perhaps you'd be willing to hand over albania back to greece.
furthermore, you're willing to accept census from yugoslavia.
in 15th century the numbers were something like this:
Of 24,795 names, 23,774 were ethnic Serb names, 470 of Roman origin, 65 of Albanian origin and 61 of Greek origin.
furthermore,
An Austrian statistics[32] published in 1899 estimated:
182,650 Albanians (47.88%)
166,700 Serbs (43.7%)

thats a very interesting increase in population over a few centuries, considering your claim is that the albainians have always been there. these numbers reflect migration, and or conversion not indiginous numbers.
in 1921 census we see:
Muslims: 329,502 (75.1%)
Orthodox Serb: 93,203 (21.2%)
1948 census, after albanian program of ethnicly cleansing serbs the numbers were:
498,242 Albanians (68.46%)
171,911 Serbs (23.62%)
then in 1971, 23 years later the numbers were:
916,168 Albanians or 73.7%[38]
228,264 Serbs (18.4%)

this growth rate is not indicative of natureal birth rates. suggesting that the population doubled in 23 years through birthrate is highly unlikely, which lead to immigration yet again.

If he was guilty of anything, he should answer to Serbian people, and not to a kangaroo court.
(ivan, 17 July 2012 17:41)

Very wise words... I'm sure that Russia & co. who made the kangaroo court will listen to you :)

Ivan,
Dont blame circumstances for the failure of an evil policy. That type of behavior will no longer be tolerated in Europe. If only you could have been there during the war, If only. Perhaps you would think differently.

I completely agree,time is working for us Serbs :

Us is going down,Russia and China will own Europe in a few years,"freeze" and block "Kosovo" everywhere and "unfreeze" it when the time is right...
Unfortunately we did not solve the Albanian question in 1912 but we will in the future!

In the meantime lets homogenize and strengthen Serbia!

Rome was an empire that conquered most of Europe and the near East, are you saying all that land belongs to Italy now? That's quite a stretch, my junior historian.
(ecoman, 17 July 2012 15:11)

that's not a stretch at all according to Serbs... we're hearing here that Kosovo belongs to Serbs because they came there before the Albanians. By the same logic, Kosovo (and most of Europe) belongs to Italy because Romans were there before Serbs.

@Ivan, thank you! It baffles me as well, as to why albanians come on to Serbian websites and comment, I have never once been on an albanian news site and left comments. I reckon these trolls really have nothing going on in their lives, really pathetic.
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I know why they come here when we don't go over there. They have an incredible need to irritate, infiltrate and disrupt.
They live to annoy. Always show up at places they are not wanted. There must be a faulty gene there somewhere.

You nailed it. Another example, they go to sporting events with albanian flags but there are no albanians compeating.
(Hankt the Tank, 18 July 2012 20:35)

Hank, last time I checked its the Serbs who bring the flag of the state of Albania in such games. The latest one was the friendly against Spain, where the Albanian flag was burned by Serb fans. UEFA is involved in this; your federation will be paying a fine pretty soon. Before that it was the game against Italy where the Albanian flag was burned. Mind you, Albania wasn't even playing in any of these games. What is wrong with you people? I don't know about you but last time I went to a Giants game I didn't bring a Serb flag with me and then proceeded to burn it.

ecoman,only 1 hour from where I grew up in Albania there is the city of Pelion, old Illyrian tribe. The thousand years old burial sites are still there, in the walls of the mountain. We're talking about a tribe that was there at the time of the King Bardhyllis (bardh=white Yllis= Star in Albanian). Another half hour from there there are 4000 years old burial sites in Maliq. Follow the excavators working on our highways. Plenty of burial sites along the Egnatia. Ancient Greek historians talk about the Albani tribe.As long as Kosova is there, even if I brought back an Illyrian to life and he spoke Albanian you will deny his existence. Prior to Milosevic, Serb historians claimed Albanians were natives. Why the change in history with the change in politics?

Ecoman

You linked an Azerbaijani news article discussing an archeological dig in modern day Azerbaijan relating to the Caucasian state originating over 1,500 or so years ago known as Albania, and its later trade connections with the Turks. The state has nothing to do with the Shqipëri/Balkan Albanians but the coincidence of name.
The Azeries claim that Nagorno-Karabakh Armenians, along with many important Armenian historical figures, aren’t really Armenian but “Albanians” and that Azeries are a mixture of “Albanians” and Turks. They use the argument to suggest that modern day Armenians are outsiders/invaders of the region. Just keeping the ethno history straight.
And without opening a whole ‘nother can of warms, I do accept that the Shqipëri ancestry is Balkan, just not Kosovan. The Illyrians whose ancestry they claim were peripheral remnants isolated in the mountains cohabitating with goats, while the overwhelming majority adopted Greek or Roman culture before the birth of Christ, It is the later Illyrians who were eventually absorbed by the migrating Slavs, forming the Serbs, Croats, and so on. That's why I, as a Russian, am more likely to carry the R1a Haplogroup, than you. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

--They live to annoy. Always show up at places they are not wanted. There must be a faulty gene there somewhere.
Peggy

You nailed it. Another example, they go to sporting events with albanian flags but there are no albanians compeating.