"U.S., Germany want Serbia to withdraw police from Kosovo"

Who cares what Germany or the US want. Surely they have NATO /KFOR?EULEX there to use force? What the money has run out you say.
The US is preparing for another round of “new” or “stimulus” money (it means warm up the printing presses) to kick start it economy as statistics are showing stagnation during a depression with no sign of recovery and with every round of printing the recovery period gets longer and longer. The US is now in serious retreat all over the world with closing military bases everywhere and slowly reducing troop numbers with every rotation.
Germany has only now begun to feel the effects of their own stupidity of allowing their banks to lend cheap money on a vast scale to places like Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal to allow EU countries to buy German produced goods. Today we have data indicating that Germany’s production has fallen and will continue to do so which will cause a recession there as well.
Now let’s read that headline again “US, Germany………………..”
Year 13 status quo continues with no changes in sight and live becoming more and more harsh as EU money dries up.

This is how the Kosovo administration of the 1990s used to operate in the time of Slobodan Milošević," the paper concludes. Well, if this was OK for the Albanians in the 90's, I see nothing wrong with the Serbs doing the same 20 years later. You cannot argue that.

Mr. vice US State Dept. whatever, Serbia would like you to withdraw your occupying forces out of KiM, how about that? Who has more right to be in KiM, the native serbs, or your invading forces from 1000's of miles away? We don't care what you and Germany want, so leave.

We want basic security, protection of religious sites, and a level playing field in negotiations and have our political and historical rights in Kosovo respected. We want the organ harvesting allegations against the current leadership concluded honestly asap, whatever the outcome. We want to know how many civilians ACTUALLY died during the war and what proportion were Serbs. Basic things that Eulex have failed to do. Then we can talk about our police leaving, even if they are there.

yes, beat the k-albanians with their own techniques. as for those estimated numbers, I´d be interested in the number of individuals operating south of Ibar.

but, after all, that is nothing to be discussed here on a soros-paid platform.

It is better that germany and US go home !

The US and Germany can whistle!! We don't give a damn what they want period!!

I want the US and Germans to go home to their own lands where they belong and stop meddling in everyone else's affairs,but they ignore us so we'll ignore them too. Sieg bloody heil!!!

Illegal is the desire of the Albanians and the so-called international community!

"Instead of that, the country has unofficially developed police and judicial structures, and courts as well. They have their principle offices at private homes without any official insignia. This is how the Kosovo administration of the 1990s used to operate in the time of Slobodan Milošević," the paper concludes.

See, see. Well, isn't is usual when some people which are oppressed by state officials/special police sent by a criminal leader try to set up own structures? May it be in YU under Milosevic in the 90s, or in Kosovo under Thaci in the 2010s. A lot of similarities are obvious. On paper, YU was multi-ethnic as well as Kosovo and didn't discriminate any ethnicity. The reality was different, Albanians should know it best.

Nikolle- you couldnt be more wrong, as usual.

Very soon that will happen. Tomislav Nikolic will do that.
(Avni, 17 July 2012, 17:18)

No he won't. He'll send in more MUP to chase Albanians out of Kosovo. USA can't do anything. Russia will send in tanks. China will use its space program. Kosova is doomed. Pristina will be liberated. You know this.

According to the agreement, KFOR should guarantee safe return of all refugees, including Serbian. Could Serb live in safety everywhere in Kosovo? It is KFOR's obligation to give them such opportunity

all america is asking is a request not telling them, so you albanians should come down because maybe in the near futre it will be 300,000 serb police and army will be comming in to police the serb province but dont fear because they will protect the innocent...

You couldn't make this up,remove their police from their own country,the only people who need removing from Kosovo are the Reich occupation forces.

(George Bush, 17 July 2012, 15:38)

People like you think I actually write this stuff to scare someone. No, these are facts not my imagination. I wish I could get a hold of an article recently written in an Australian paper where it said that “the US is not telling its people of the real financial situation and that it is in serious retreat militarily around the world, but when the people find out there will be an enormous amount of anger and there could even be a revolution in parts of the US”. This came from one of Rupert Murdock’s papers.

Yes, the US does spend 6 times as China but when you pay $500 for a toilet seat from Halliburton’s when you can get same for $25 from Wal-Mart you need a big budget. Anyway for such a powerful army why has it been thrashed in Iraq???? If the west could launch such action against the Serbs they would have a long time ago, mate. Now all the Serbs have to do is sit and wait and watch as it all implodes – it will not be too long either. Why do you think the Russians and Chinese are sitting and watching?

(icj1, 18 July 2012, 06:37)
Ahh the venom coming from a frustrated Albanian, like music to my ears, but enlighten your wider audience of how wrong I am by edifying them with the great Albanian progress in Kosova – last time I looked it was the same crap hole the west created 13 years ago. Enjoy the freedom LOL because the crap hole is going nowhere and its going to get even more miserable if anyone can believe it as the EU budget is further squeezed. You might ask the Us to print off a couple of sheets for your Albanians, if they can spare the paper.
Keep up with your vitriol, I enjoy it immensely LOL.
Yes the US is superior in every way day by day – just keep on thinking that. Oh, how’s the level of unemployment going there? Down to 5.2% LOL more like 27% and rising.

"As per the UN SC Resolution 1244, Serbia could send back a certain number of policemen to Kosovo in agreement with the international community."

Let us know when it has been agreed.

its been an open secret for a while. truth is, Serbia has given up on Kosova, it only wants to annex the North. all those speeches about holy land and the birthplace of the nation are just that, speeches

Wait...i am confused.
Didnt the PM designate said that Germany matters the most?
Didnt he know before he makes this statement the role that Tadic had and his relations with germany?
When will Serbs realise that germans dont like them and that they prefer albanians and croats?

I know many of you here say USA can not do anything but if they show proof that you have broken Kumanovo agreement and have Police forces in Kosovo without Permission just gave them Green light to give you a beating.

Enough being tough person if you really understand the meaning of Kumanovo Agreement you would understand that you gave total defeat to NATO and that in case you break it they have the right to beat you silly.

They as well can apply sanction to Serbia ( this will be devastating this is why Serbian Gov will slowly remove the) Reality is that they have to go and if KFOR wants them out in 7 days you will have a clean North.

Even in Res 1244 you are not allowed to even bring 1 police officer to Kosovo without permission any proof would be devestating. Look Serbia knows that if they do not get Candidat Status there will be huge pain as with that they get huge huge Grants but average Joe here things still Serbia is center and has so much wealth. A country that only way has stoped massive destruction by increasing public Employment and Debt or you would have a revolution in Serbia.

Many here live abroad go home for Summer vacation and everything looks dandy as they Only Visit Beograd or Novi Sad but Friends Serbia is on its knees and the poleticians will do everything they are told. I never see German President going to Serbia or USA or Russia after election for consultations why you think Serbia does due to its POWER?????

SJ,

The United States still has the strongest military in the world and its military budget is 6 times the military budget of the 2nd strongest military in the world-- China. So I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from. The United States is still more than capable to take any action it desires if it feels that you little serbs are getting out of line.

Only thing in Kosovo that was underground was Education as we were not allowed to have our own Program. There where no Health or issuing of Documents you must be silly.

What it was allowed it was for people to go to High school and College underground. THis right Serbs have in Kosovo and to collaborate with Serbia all they like even use any book they like.

There where no Kosovo Police so please when you write news to some research. kosovo in 1990s was under a iron fist If Serbs thing they have it bad trust me it is bad but nothing compare to Milosevic 90's.

Serbs in North in the other hand are breaking an agreement they signed do you think if they want to stop it by force they can not, they are giving a chance to Serbia to do it in a respectable way not to loos face as it seems that this what they always say.

Very soon that will happen. Tomislav Nikolic will do that.

it is "an open secret" that "between 300 and 400 MUP employees have been engaged there, while foreign services estimate that there are between 1,000 and 2,000 of Serbia's intelligence agents."

This just shows how brave and well prepared are ROSU who only with 2 armoured vehicles reached the gate 1 at the border and were few meters from gate 31... let our boys do the job and cut this b.sh for good.

The US is preparing for another round of “new” or “stimulus” money (it means warm up the printing presses) to kick start it economy as statistics are showing stagnation during a depression with no sign of recovery and with every round of printing the recovery period gets longer and longer.
Today we have data indicating that Germany’s production has fallen and will continue to do so which will cause a recession there as well.
Now let’s read that headline again “US, Germany………………..”
Year 13 status quo continues with no changes in sight and live becoming more and more harsh as EU money dries up.
(sj, 17 July 2012, 12:24)

Thanks God you're back... Without your brilliant global economic and financial analysis I was left in the dark about how to invest my money. Back to profits now... thanks sj (and also bring my thanks to your Malaysian friend); I'm not sure how B92 forums and the world would do without your economic and financial analysis :)

And yes the status quo of Kosovo being independent from Serbia continues for a 13th year. God knows for how long this will go on (at least as long as 1244 is in force). And the section "Economic crisis in Serbia" continues for many years now to be on the right of this page - status quo continues with no changes in sight and live becoming more and more harsh.

SJ,

The United States still has the strongest military in the world and its military budget is 6 times the military budget of the 2nd strongest military in the world-- China. So I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from. The United States is still more than capable to take any action it desires if it feels that you little serbs are getting out of line.
(George Bush, 17 July 2012, 15:38)

Dear George, you never, and I mean, you NEVER, question the analysis and facts of sj - the CE of B92 forums. Those are too sophisticated to be correctly understood by most mortals. Things are as sj said for a very simple reason - because sj (with the help of his/her Malaysian friend) said them.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

According to the agreement, KFOR should guarantee safe return of all refugees, including Serbian. Could Serb live in safety everywhere in Kosovo? It is KFOR's obligation to give them such opportunity
(aaayyy, 17 July 2012, 19:50)

Absolutely, that's why KFOR is working hard to ensure the freedom of movement of Serbs in Kosovo which was made difficult from some people playing with logs in the roads connecting Kosovo with Serbia.

MUP will be out of North Kosova within a week. Why? Nikolic and Dacic have just said EU is #1 priority for Serbia. Only sj doesn't understand this

This just shows how brave and well prepared are ROSU who only with 2 armoured vehicles reached the gate 1 at the border and were few meters from gate 31... let our boys do the job and cut this b.sh for good.
(ben, 18 July 2012, 01:08)

Why do you Albanians keep forgetting what happened to "your boys" right after that? I recall "your boys" fled back south of the Ibar with one less. You still think you can do what KFOR can't?

MUP will be out of North Kosova within a week. Why? Nikolic and Dacic have just said EU is #1 priority for Serbia. Only sj doesn't understand this
(The Count of Kosova, 18 July 2012, 15:28)
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The west has been saying this same tune for a decade now, but what you don’t know is that in Belgrade they all sing the “we love EU”, but how much is done to appease the EU? Absolutely nothing.
I’ll wait your posting this time next week about MUP having left Kosovo.
God you people are not bright, to say the least. The EU is on its knees and who know if it can survive and you’re off with the pixies as if this is 1990. Money is the problem and the EU well has run DRY.

Ahh the venom coming from a frustrated Albanian, like music to my ears,
(sj, 18 July 2012, 11:55)

Venom ?! That's disappotining... As you read in my post, I'm the biggest fan of yours and actually making profits based on your brilliant economic and financial analysis. Unfortunately, some other poeple in these forums are not able to understand the value of your economic and financial analysis as CE of the B92 forums. Those guys don't know what they are missing - they could become rich in a week by just following your insight that nobody else in financial industry is aware of.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

"As per the UN SC Resolution 1244, Serbia could send back a certain number of policemen to Kosovo in agreement with the international community."

Let us know when it has been agreed.

its been an open secret for a while. truth is, Serbia has given up on Kosova, it only wants to annex the North. all those speeches about holy land and the birthplace of the nation are just that, speeches

Wait...i am confused.
Didnt the PM designate said that Germany matters the most?
Didnt he know before he makes this statement the role that Tadic had and his relations with germany?
When will Serbs realise that germans dont like them and that they prefer albanians and croats?

I know many of you here say USA can not do anything but if they show proof that you have broken Kumanovo agreement and have Police forces in Kosovo without Permission just gave them Green light to give you a beating.

Enough being tough person if you really understand the meaning of Kumanovo Agreement you would understand that you gave total defeat to NATO and that in case you break it they have the right to beat you silly.

They as well can apply sanction to Serbia ( this will be devastating this is why Serbian Gov will slowly remove the) Reality is that they have to go and if KFOR wants them out in 7 days you will have a clean North.

Even in Res 1244 you are not allowed to even bring 1 police officer to Kosovo without permission any proof would be devestating. Look Serbia knows that if they do not get Candidat Status there will be huge pain as with that they get huge huge Grants but average Joe here things still Serbia is center and has so much wealth. A country that only way has stoped massive destruction by increasing public Employment and Debt or you would have a revolution in Serbia.

Many here live abroad go home for Summer vacation and everything looks dandy as they Only Visit Beograd or Novi Sad but Friends Serbia is on its knees and the poleticians will do everything they are told. I never see German President going to Serbia or USA or Russia after election for consultations why you think Serbia does due to its POWER?????

SJ,

The United States still has the strongest military in the world and its military budget is 6 times the military budget of the 2nd strongest military in the world-- China. So I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from. The United States is still more than capable to take any action it desires if it feels that you little serbs are getting out of line.

Only thing in Kosovo that was underground was Education as we were not allowed to have our own Program. There where no Health or issuing of Documents you must be silly.

What it was allowed it was for people to go to High school and College underground. THis right Serbs have in Kosovo and to collaborate with Serbia all they like even use any book they like.

There where no Kosovo Police so please when you write news to some research. kosovo in 1990s was under a iron fist If Serbs thing they have it bad trust me it is bad but nothing compare to Milosevic 90's.

Serbs in North in the other hand are breaking an agreement they signed do you think if they want to stop it by force they can not, they are giving a chance to Serbia to do it in a respectable way not to loos face as it seems that this what they always say.

Very soon that will happen. Tomislav Nikolic will do that.

it is "an open secret" that "between 300 and 400 MUP employees have been engaged there, while foreign services estimate that there are between 1,000 and 2,000 of Serbia's intelligence agents."

This just shows how brave and well prepared are ROSU who only with 2 armoured vehicles reached the gate 1 at the border and were few meters from gate 31... let our boys do the job and cut this b.sh for good.

The US is preparing for another round of “new” or “stimulus” money (it means warm up the printing presses) to kick start it economy as statistics are showing stagnation during a depression with no sign of recovery and with every round of printing the recovery period gets longer and longer.
Today we have data indicating that Germany’s production has fallen and will continue to do so which will cause a recession there as well.
Now let’s read that headline again “US, Germany………………..”
Year 13 status quo continues with no changes in sight and live becoming more and more harsh as EU money dries up.
(sj, 17 July 2012, 12:24)

Thanks God you're back... Without your brilliant global economic and financial analysis I was left in the dark about how to invest my money. Back to profits now... thanks sj (and also bring my thanks to your Malaysian friend); I'm not sure how B92 forums and the world would do without your economic and financial analysis :)

And yes the status quo of Kosovo being independent from Serbia continues for a 13th year. God knows for how long this will go on (at least as long as 1244 is in force). And the section "Economic crisis in Serbia" continues for many years now to be on the right of this page - status quo continues with no changes in sight and live becoming more and more harsh.

SJ,

The United States still has the strongest military in the world and its military budget is 6 times the military budget of the 2nd strongest military in the world-- China. So I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from. The United States is still more than capable to take any action it desires if it feels that you little serbs are getting out of line.
(George Bush, 17 July 2012, 15:38)

Dear George, you never, and I mean, you NEVER, question the analysis and facts of sj - the CE of B92 forums. Those are too sophisticated to be correctly understood by most mortals. Things are as sj said for a very simple reason - because sj (with the help of his/her Malaysian friend) said them.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

According to the agreement, KFOR should guarantee safe return of all refugees, including Serbian. Could Serb live in safety everywhere in Kosovo? It is KFOR's obligation to give them such opportunity
(aaayyy, 17 July 2012, 19:50)

Absolutely, that's why KFOR is working hard to ensure the freedom of movement of Serbs in Kosovo which was made difficult from some people playing with logs in the roads connecting Kosovo with Serbia.

MUP will be out of North Kosova within a week. Why? Nikolic and Dacic have just said EU is #1 priority for Serbia. Only sj doesn't understand this

Who cares what Germany or the US want. Surely they have NATO /KFOR?EULEX there to use force? What the money has run out you say.
The US is preparing for another round of “new” or “stimulus” money (it means warm up the printing presses) to kick start it economy as statistics are showing stagnation during a depression with no sign of recovery and with every round of printing the recovery period gets longer and longer. The US is now in serious retreat all over the world with closing military bases everywhere and slowly reducing troop numbers with every rotation.
Germany has only now begun to feel the effects of their own stupidity of allowing their banks to lend cheap money on a vast scale to places like Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal to allow EU countries to buy German produced goods. Today we have data indicating that Germany’s production has fallen and will continue to do so which will cause a recession there as well.
Now let’s read that headline again “US, Germany………………..”
Year 13 status quo continues with no changes in sight and live becoming more and more harsh as EU money dries up.

This is how the Kosovo administration of the 1990s used to operate in the time of Slobodan Milošević," the paper concludes. Well, if this was OK for the Albanians in the 90's, I see nothing wrong with the Serbs doing the same 20 years later. You cannot argue that.

Mr. vice US State Dept. whatever, Serbia would like you to withdraw your occupying forces out of KiM, how about that? Who has more right to be in KiM, the native serbs, or your invading forces from 1000's of miles away? We don't care what you and Germany want, so leave.

We want basic security, protection of religious sites, and a level playing field in negotiations and have our political and historical rights in Kosovo respected. We want the organ harvesting allegations against the current leadership concluded honestly asap, whatever the outcome. We want to know how many civilians ACTUALLY died during the war and what proportion were Serbs. Basic things that Eulex have failed to do. Then we can talk about our police leaving, even if they are there.

yes, beat the k-albanians with their own techniques. as for those estimated numbers, I´d be interested in the number of individuals operating south of Ibar.

but, after all, that is nothing to be discussed here on a soros-paid platform.

It is better that germany and US go home !

The US and Germany can whistle!! We don't give a damn what they want period!!

I want the US and Germans to go home to their own lands where they belong and stop meddling in everyone else's affairs,but they ignore us so we'll ignore them too. Sieg bloody heil!!!

Illegal is the desire of the Albanians and the so-called international community!

"Instead of that, the country has unofficially developed police and judicial structures, and courts as well. They have their principle offices at private homes without any official insignia. This is how the Kosovo administration of the 1990s used to operate in the time of Slobodan Milošević," the paper concludes.

See, see. Well, isn't is usual when some people which are oppressed by state officials/special police sent by a criminal leader try to set up own structures? May it be in YU under Milosevic in the 90s, or in Kosovo under Thaci in the 2010s. A lot of similarities are obvious. On paper, YU was multi-ethnic as well as Kosovo and didn't discriminate any ethnicity. The reality was different, Albanians should know it best.

Nikolle- you couldnt be more wrong, as usual.

Very soon that will happen. Tomislav Nikolic will do that.
(Avni, 17 July 2012, 17:18)

No he won't. He'll send in more MUP to chase Albanians out of Kosovo. USA can't do anything. Russia will send in tanks. China will use its space program. Kosova is doomed. Pristina will be liberated. You know this.

According to the agreement, KFOR should guarantee safe return of all refugees, including Serbian. Could Serb live in safety everywhere in Kosovo? It is KFOR's obligation to give them such opportunity

all america is asking is a request not telling them, so you albanians should come down because maybe in the near futre it will be 300,000 serb police and army will be comming in to police the serb province but dont fear because they will protect the innocent...

You couldn't make this up,remove their police from their own country,the only people who need removing from Kosovo are the Reich occupation forces.

(George Bush, 17 July 2012, 15:38)

People like you think I actually write this stuff to scare someone. No, these are facts not my imagination. I wish I could get a hold of an article recently written in an Australian paper where it said that “the US is not telling its people of the real financial situation and that it is in serious retreat militarily around the world, but when the people find out there will be an enormous amount of anger and there could even be a revolution in parts of the US”. This came from one of Rupert Murdock’s papers.

Yes, the US does spend 6 times as China but when you pay $500 for a toilet seat from Halliburton’s when you can get same for $25 from Wal-Mart you need a big budget. Anyway for such a powerful army why has it been thrashed in Iraq???? If the west could launch such action against the Serbs they would have a long time ago, mate. Now all the Serbs have to do is sit and wait and watch as it all implodes – it will not be too long either. Why do you think the Russians and Chinese are sitting and watching?

(icj1, 18 July 2012, 06:37)
Ahh the venom coming from a frustrated Albanian, like music to my ears, but enlighten your wider audience of how wrong I am by edifying them with the great Albanian progress in Kosova – last time I looked it was the same crap hole the west created 13 years ago. Enjoy the freedom LOL because the crap hole is going nowhere and its going to get even more miserable if anyone can believe it as the EU budget is further squeezed. You might ask the Us to print off a couple of sheets for your Albanians, if they can spare the paper.
Keep up with your vitriol, I enjoy it immensely LOL.
Yes the US is superior in every way day by day – just keep on thinking that. Oh, how’s the level of unemployment going there? Down to 5.2% LOL more like 27% and rising.

This just shows how brave and well prepared are ROSU who only with 2 armoured vehicles reached the gate 1 at the border and were few meters from gate 31... let our boys do the job and cut this b.sh for good.
(ben, 18 July 2012, 01:08)

Why do you Albanians keep forgetting what happened to "your boys" right after that? I recall "your boys" fled back south of the Ibar with one less. You still think you can do what KFOR can't?

MUP will be out of North Kosova within a week. Why? Nikolic and Dacic have just said EU is #1 priority for Serbia. Only sj doesn't understand this
(The Count of Kosova, 18 July 2012, 15:28)
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The west has been saying this same tune for a decade now, but what you don’t know is that in Belgrade they all sing the “we love EU”, but how much is done to appease the EU? Absolutely nothing.
I’ll wait your posting this time next week about MUP having left Kosovo.
God you people are not bright, to say the least. The EU is on its knees and who know if it can survive and you’re off with the pixies as if this is 1990. Money is the problem and the EU well has run DRY.

Ahh the venom coming from a frustrated Albanian, like music to my ears,
(sj, 18 July 2012, 11:55)

Venom ?! That's disappotining... As you read in my post, I'm the biggest fan of yours and actually making profits based on your brilliant economic and financial analysis. Unfortunately, some other poeple in these forums are not able to understand the value of your economic and financial analysis as CE of the B92 forums. Those guys don't know what they are missing - they could become rich in a week by just following your insight that nobody else in financial industry is aware of.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist