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Sunday, 15.07.2012.

12:40

Metropolitan hopes “NATO will break up”

Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC) Metropolitan of Montenegro and the Littoral Amfilohije once again said he was against Montenegro joining NATO.

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Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(SCP UK, 16 July 2012 18:13)

Yawn. Another hsotile meaningless rant by the holier than thou SCP UK.

Why won't NATO break up? Because the majority of NATO members are fanatical about the organisation and speand loads of money on it. And for your information I'm opposed to NATO (and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan), it is just the US's way of controlling European (and Canada's) military. I believe NATO should have ended with the Cold War. But NATO had to re-invent itself with this arificial "War on Terror". The West (Predominantly the US) use NATO to flex their muscles and exert pressure and influence on other countries. But your beloved Russia 'tries' to do the same, but it isn't as good at it. Russia is just very Jealous as it is a wannabe Superpower.

I dislike the BBC for being pro Royalist. But you're very quick to 'label' people. Should I label you as one who watches Russian Fox News aka Russia Today? A news channel known for its objectiveness and brilliant journalism... I think not.

And yes I know you hate the UK as it is horrid place to live and that you're desperate to leave. Can I ask when you're immigrating? or do you think you'll stay put for the time being and enjoy all the benifits of living in the UK? I assure you there will be many British people who will be willing to pay for you to immigrate if you need the help leaving such a nasty country.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

Oh look another English know it all Ian UK blabbering again. Please, enlighten us as to why you are so confident NATO wont break up. Typical arrogant English BBC watching attitudes, all is cosy in the UK while they take part in NATO's terrorism in the world, the English dont know what suffering is. Also how does it feel that the great Britannia is now a tool of the USA, a country which was once owned by the British? How pathetic, Brits should be ashamed of what their country has become.

zman

pre 11 godina

"It is not the thinking or actions of others that threatens Serbia or Serbians, it is the Serbains themselves who are their own worst enemy.The world waits for a modern Serbia with open and outstrecthed hands-and all it sees is an insecure thinking that only turns in on itslef and blames everyone else for its shortcomings."

It is not the thinking or actions of others that threatens Serbia or Serbians, it is the Serbains themselves who are their own worst enemy.The world waits for a modern Serbia with open and outstrecthed hands-and all it sees is an insecure thinking that only turns in on itslef and blames everyone else for its shortcomings.

a modern serbia?? lol what a joke.. Do you know the truth of the war in the balkans or do you listen to what's fed to you on CNN? There can be no "modern Serbia' until a goverment that puts the priorities of its citizens ahead of what the NATO occupation estabilshemnt wants.. Serbia hasn't had suc ha goverment since Milosevic.. But of course if you are resisting NATO powers you are a "hardline nationalist" a "genocidal Maniac" but if you are their puppet you are a "democract".. of course thse are all codewords for those are not obeidient and those who are.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Since that time the US influence has become even smaller. Once NATO leaves Afghanistan, the battle group will fracture and split where Europe will form its own force and leave the US out in the cold, but the new partner will be Moscow because by 2014 it will meet about half of Europe’s energy needs. "
(sj, 16 July 2012 04:38)

So far, the 'battle group' has only expanded in Europe to new members. While there once was another 'battle group' that fractured or better say... dissolved. Hint: Russia was a part of this group :)

little albanian friend

pre 11 godina

A question for all my big Serbian friends:
Can any of you name 3 religious and prosperous countries?
Not 10, just 3? It should be easy.

When you have men in dresses talk politics and people who follow them like sheep follow their sheepherder then the end result is a country like Serbia. Hoping to move forward but regressing by day. And, of course, the logical thing to do is blame the WEst and it's neighbors.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

No wonder Montenegro ,Macedonia and every one else dose not want the Greater Serb religiosity church and their brainwashed rabid followers who would. They should go back to Serbia I'm sure some Serbs brainwashing religiosity is wearing off. The self appointed Serb religiosity authorities could start pogroms their and keep them holy occupied.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

"Metropolitan hopes NATO will break up"

Yeh well I hope Lionel Messi joins Sheffield United, but it isn't going to happen. Same with NATO breaking up.

In fact there is more chance of Lionel Messi joining Sheffield United than there is NATO breaking up.

Besides he is a religious man not a politician, Politics isn't his area.

Now you believe

pre 11 godina

Didn't I read something similar today? Oh, yes, there was a statement from Assad about the deeds of his glorious army :)
(J.Oker, 15 July 2012 19:19)

If it helps, you will find BBC reluctantly agrees.

"The BBC's Jim Muir, in neighbouring Lebanon, says the conclusions of UN observers have so far been more in line with the government's version of events than with reports of an indiscriminate massacre of civilians.

UN observers arrived in Tremseh as villagers claimed military forces had carried out indiscriminate attacks
He says the Tremseh killings appear to differ from the situation at Houla two months ago, when UN observers were able to arrive quickly and count the bodies of what was clearly a massacre.

He says that because the observers arrived in Tremseh 48 hours after the attack, all they could conclude was that it appeared to target rebel fighters or defectors from the Syrian army."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18846958

truthiness

pre 11 godina

You cannot but have a bit of a giggle when you see a rabid hypernationlist ALWAYS refer to Croatia as fascist. PLease be kind enough to be honest and tell the rest of the world what is so fascist about the current Croatian state.
Is it the fact that it has had SERBIAN deputy PM's?
Is it the fact that it is for all intents and purposes a functioning democracy.
Is it the fact that there are procedures to allow Serbians displaced by the war allowed back into Croatia
Is it the fact that it actually DOES have memorials EVERY YEAR for the innmocent serb and non-serb victims of Jasenovac.


Apart from your inherent hatred of all things non-serb (especially where someone else is seen in a better light) there is NOTHING to substantiate your rascist views.- and yes you are racist.

But thats OK - the more you keep it up the more Europe and the rest of the world see that you in fact, all you do is maintain an old and outdated mentality - unprepared for the modern world and the challenges it brings.

It is not the thinking or actions of others that threatens Serbia or Serbians, it is the Serbains themselves who are their own worst enemy.The world waits for a modern Serbia with open and outstrecthed hands-and all it sees is an insecure thinking that only turns in on itslef and blames everyone else for its shortcomings.

The optimists amongst us have yet to lose hope for a better Serbia - it just doesnt seem to be anywhere on the horizon.

sj

pre 11 godina

There is no fear about NATIO remaining in its current form. Yes the US would love to keep the status quo and be the big lad on the street, but it’s no longer up to Washington as its influence and capacity is sliding very fast down hill. This was not more apparent than at the time when Obama took office when he first visited the EU and asked them two things; to increase their troop’s numbers in Afghanistan and to increase stimulus money to kick start the economies of Europe. Both France and Germany said a big NO. This would have been unheard of in the 1950s – 1990s.

Since that time the US influence has become even smaller. Once NATO leaves Afghanistan, the battle group will fracture and split where Europe will form its own force and leave the US out in the cold, but the new partner will be Moscow because by 2014 it will meet about half of Europe’s energy needs.

Like it or not my little Albanian friends it’s going to happen. What your real worry is where will your next meal come from as the EU has started on another round of cut backs on expenditure.

roberto

pre 11 godina

Is there a chapter in the bible he can refer to? If not he is a politician disguised as "holy man" (the Taliban have lots of those btw).
Mind you religion, love thy brother in whatever way you like and shut up!(opium for the people, 15 July 2012 16:12)

Taliban is exactly right. but this one has the state and ever loyal media to back it up. whatever you call it, it sure ain't holy. holy h-ll...

roberto

Serbian prince

pre 11 godina

I couldn't understand how a republic would even consider joining an organization that bombed them for 78 days. One would have to be mentally disturbed to do so. It's beyond comprehension. Just a friendly reminder Montenegro...if you join the (Nato Nazi) alliance be prepared for a battle one day with Russia. If Nato is that important to you go for it.

Bob

pre 11 godina

NATO has been the biggest force for peace for its members since WW2. NATO is not going away just because some very little person thinks it should.

As much as I love Serbia, I despise the kind of rabid nationalism that Milosevic and a number of posters on this site represent. The Bosnia fiasco (driven by mafiosi and corrupt politicians from all sides but by Milosevic in particular) put NATO in a position where it had to intervene in Kosovo. Milosevic played stupid provocative short-term games instead of finding solutions. He was an idiot at diplomacy.

The orthodox church in Serbia has failed to separate itself from justifying atrocious murders - I don't see that a religious organisation that is more interested in its own selfish nationalism than it is in addressing all of human kind should even be allowed to continue to exist without being challenged.

Why should anyone respect the opinions of religious old men? Read a bit about the true origin of the universe and apply your mind to whether there is any intervention of a 'God' in human affairs. What there really is, is a peculiar mind-set that is embedded in people from the days we hadn't got a clue about how the universe worked. Anyway, what is a 'god' other than a weird idea? The use of the word 'faith' is in itself just an omission of ignorance.

For the good of Serbia, let's please get rid of the primitivism of nationalists and orthodoxists.

Paul

pre 11 godina

The North Atlantic Treaty Oranization is a creeping fungus that needs to be washed clean before it destroys the major powers it infects. The US in particular as a major contributor is the most threatened. The rest of the countries are huddled closer together and are easily much more cynical about it. Look at the way Turkey is going. All of its officers that were at one time the most intimate with NATO are in jail and Turkey drifts further and further into the hands of Islam. Look at the unrepentent fascists in Croatia. Look at Georgia playing chicken with Russia. NATO is a major disaster just waiting to happen.

Amer

pre 11 godina

"Us? Montenegro was bombed? I didn't know that :)
(J.Oker, 15 July 2012 13:19) "

Nato dropped a few token bombs so that Milosevic couldn't accuse Montenegro of siding with Nato (which of course it was). The Serb army could have done a lot more damage than Nato did if Slobo had decided to send it in on a punishment mission. Sorry for the damage done.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"The serb Military were killing KLA Terrorists that had been slaughtering Serb Police officers and throwing hand grenades into Cafes full of serbian Kids."
(Englishman, 15 July 2012 17:15)

Didn't I read something similar today? Oh, yes, there was a statement from Assad about the deeds of his glorious army :)

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

“God, give us wisdom to help Europeans and Americans to dissolve NATO. That would be the biggest contribution of Montenegro to the world,” he pointed out.


You should preach the word of god, which peace and love, rather than talking about military issues.
He must have had to much slivovica when he gave this statement.

Lazar

pre 11 godina

Demi, NATO intervened knowing that intervention will make the situation a lot worse. And indeed, after NATO intervened it became far far far worse for both sides in that conflict. It did not help Albanians, trust me on that one.

Bledi, Serbs were the majority in Kosovo even in the 1800s, according to western surveyors. But, after continual persecution they lost that by the end of the 1800s. The final years of the 1800s were particularly brutal, which is when we really lost a lot of Serbs from kosovo and metohija. :( I at least know my history, whereas you have confirmed that you are either a silly fool, or that you are here for the purpose of harassing us.

Englishman

pre 11 godina

So it was OK for Serbia to send the military to Kosova and to kill the albanian population there but not for Nato to bomb Serbia to protect the people of Kosova `??

You are so evil thinking only about serbian lives. Albanian lives dosen't count to you. Where were you ''prayers'' when people in Kosova got killed by the mighty serbian army ??

But to not make your day both Montenegro and Serbia will join Nato. But also Kosova and the entire region.
(Demi, 15 July 2012 13:14)

The serb Military were killing KLA Terrorists that had been slaughtering Serb Police officers and throwing hand grenades into Cafes full of serbian Kids.

rote

pre 11 godina

Serbian Orthodox Church got a strong immunity against the west as EUNATO enjoys almost no influence in the utmost conservative Orthodox World. Whatever the Ukrainian or South Ossetian politicians do one is remaining the confessional territory of Russia and the other of Georgia. Same with Montenegro which will remain the confessional territory of Serbia until the Serbian Orthodox Church wants so. Thus the clergymen here can do and say whatever they think with little care of what the Brussels or Washington or any other scoundrel will think of them. We all know how the Montenegro province has been torn away.

opium for the people

pre 11 godina

“God, give us wisdom to help Europeans and Americans to dissolve NATO. That would be the biggest contribution of Montenegro to the world,” he pointed out."

Is there a chapter in the bible he can refer to? If not he is a politician disguised as "holy man" (the Taliban have lots of those btw).
Mind you religion, love thy brother in whatever way you like and shut up!

XYZ

pre 11 godina

@SCP ,before Tito came to power ther were no Srbs in Kosovo at all,0,001%.We Albanians know exactly when the Srbs moved to Kosovo I mean every one of them.Stop spreding the propaganda that we came ther during Titos time ,that does not hold water any more,no one in the world belives you.Look at the buildings build in Kosova thats when the Srbs moved to our land.They lived in every building in all the cities in Kosova .those buildings were build in Albanian lands taken from your komunist goverment and Tito that you are so against now.Do not waste your time pope Albanians will be NATO for you if NATO brakes up and thats worst for you.
(Bledi, 15 July 2012 15:54)

Bledi,

What are you smoking on buddy? Because what ever it is, it's making you delusional. Just look at the population census of Kosovo before 1945 and after 1945. It's readily available online, and please get back to me once you look at it. Your theory of no Serbs being in Kosovo before then is ridiculous. The sad thing is, when people constantly tell lies, they themselves tend to believe them. You seem to be a perfect example of just that! The truth is, people are seeing Albanians for who they are! Land grabbers, thief's, murderers (old ppl. women and children), and traffickers. Btw, it was Tito who allowed Albanians to flood Kosovo, in the hopes to appease Hoxa (or what ever his name is), in hopes Albania would join the Yugoslav union, because both weren't in the Warsaw pact. Please, learn your History!

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"Look at the buildings build in Kosova thats when the Srbs moved to our land."
(Bledi, 15 July 2012 15:54)

Yes, but only if you look at the old Serbian orthodox churches and monasteries from centuries ago, right? :)

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

@J.Oker, the albanians in Kosovo can say whatever they like, but you are drifting from the subject here. The Metropolitan said bombed 'us' because Serbs and 'Montenegrins' are exactly the same without any differences what so ever, language is the same, race is the same, religion is the same as are many other cultural traits.

@Bledi, I laughed pretty hard when I read your pathetic response. If you truly believe what you wrote about Serbs consisting of '0.001%' of Kosovo's population before Tito's time then you are either completely deluded or completely stupid. Funny that you accuse me of propaganda, your false info contradicts reality. Before Tito albanians were a minority in Kosovo, that is a fact proved by various censuses, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if the illegitimate mafia authorities in Pristina tried to get rid of all evidence proving this. Just to educate you a bit, Tito was bent on reducing Serb dominance thus being why he allowed so many albanians to migrate in from over the border. In the following years albanians terrorised many Serbs forcing them to flee so that albanians could move in on their property, the communists turned a blind eye as to not provoke nationalist feelings amongst Serbs, just like how they covered up the Croatian Ustase and Jasenovac crimes. When communism withered away we finally stepped on albanian aggression until NATO came and saved your sorry arses. Once again uder NATO protection albanians are free to terrorise, truth hurts.

Koha

pre 11 godina

Serbs who lived in Kosovo were Soldiers, UDB Agents, Police and their families, they lived in collective apartments Serbian Communist government build for them. These are facts.
Adios

Bledi

pre 11 godina

@SCP ,before Tito came to power ther were no Srbs in Kosovo at all,0,001%.We Albanians know exactly when the Srbs moved to Kosovo I mean every one of them.Stop spreding the propaganda that we came ther during Titos time ,that does not hold water any more,no one in the world belives you.Look at the buildings build in Kosova thats when the Srbs moved to our land.They lived in every building in all the cities in Kosova .those buildings were build in Albanian lands taken from your komunist goverment and Tito that you are so against now.Do not waste your time pope Albanians will be NATO for you if NATO brakes up and thats worst for you.

Leo

pre 11 godina

The esteemed father won't even have to pray much as NATO is already dysfunctional, hollowed out and the US is facing more inevitable military budget reductions that are resulting in a withdrawal from Europe.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

NATO WILL BREAK UP AS AN AFTERMATCH TO THE COMING BALKAN WAR !.

When the War braks out in the Mideast,
sertain members of NATO sourounding Serbia,
will seize the opportunity to go on the prey.

This will make the US to take Her stand against this,
and the result will be the breaking up of NATO.

Arn.Sweden.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

@J.Oker, yes Montenegrins are Serbs, thus why he said bombed 'us'. The border that exists between Serbia and CG is merely political the people are one.
(SCP UK, 15 July 2012 13:58)

Albanians in Kosovo say something similar :)

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

A truly great and brave statement made, NATO is the most evil organization which infects the earth in which we live. They breach the sovereignty of nations for their own gains, be it for territorial superiority, political control or the stealing of natural resources, while they fool the common idiots of the western world with the notions of humanitarian intervention, it is the most anti-humanitarian organization that exists. The breakup of NATO would be the biggest form of emancipation for the world, the collapse of todays evil empire.

@Demi, you comment is both utterly wrong and ignorant of the truth. Let me remind you, that before the war started in 1998 the albanian people had persecuted Serbs ever since Tito allowed your people to enter in their masses, and since then to this day the albanians have subjected the Serbian people and our Chruches to terror unimaginable right till now, only to have been protected by Tito, then by NATO after you cried like babies for their intervention, now that NATO protects you the terror continues. You talk of care for human life, could you care to comment on the albanians and their regard for the lives of Serbian civilians? The Metropolitan speaks not only of Serbian lives but the lives of all who have suffered at the hands of NATO terror, so again, your comment is meaningless and stupid.

@J.Oker, yes Montenegrins are Serbs, thus why he said bombed 'us'. The border that exists between Serbia and CG is merely political the people are one.

Demi

pre 11 godina

So it was OK for Serbia to send the military to Kosova and to kill the albanian population there but not for Nato to bomb Serbia to protect the people of Kosova `??

You are so evil thinking only about serbian lives. Albanian lives dosen't count to you. Where were you ''prayers'' when people in Kosova got killed by the mighty serbian army ??

But to not make your day both Montenegro and Serbia will join Nato. But also Kosova and the entire region.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

“I hope to god that Montenegro will not join NATO that bombed us,” he told Podgorica-based daily Dan.

Us? Montenegro was bombed? I didn't know that :)

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

A truly great and brave statement made, NATO is the most evil organization which infects the earth in which we live. They breach the sovereignty of nations for their own gains, be it for territorial superiority, political control or the stealing of natural resources, while they fool the common idiots of the western world with the notions of humanitarian intervention, it is the most anti-humanitarian organization that exists. The breakup of NATO would be the biggest form of emancipation for the world, the collapse of todays evil empire.

@Demi, you comment is both utterly wrong and ignorant of the truth. Let me remind you, that before the war started in 1998 the albanian people had persecuted Serbs ever since Tito allowed your people to enter in their masses, and since then to this day the albanians have subjected the Serbian people and our Chruches to terror unimaginable right till now, only to have been protected by Tito, then by NATO after you cried like babies for their intervention, now that NATO protects you the terror continues. You talk of care for human life, could you care to comment on the albanians and their regard for the lives of Serbian civilians? The Metropolitan speaks not only of Serbian lives but the lives of all who have suffered at the hands of NATO terror, so again, your comment is meaningless and stupid.

@J.Oker, yes Montenegrins are Serbs, thus why he said bombed 'us'. The border that exists between Serbia and CG is merely political the people are one.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

“I hope to god that Montenegro will not join NATO that bombed us,” he told Podgorica-based daily Dan.

Us? Montenegro was bombed? I didn't know that :)

Demi

pre 11 godina

So it was OK for Serbia to send the military to Kosova and to kill the albanian population there but not for Nato to bomb Serbia to protect the people of Kosova `??

You are so evil thinking only about serbian lives. Albanian lives dosen't count to you. Where were you ''prayers'' when people in Kosova got killed by the mighty serbian army ??

But to not make your day both Montenegro and Serbia will join Nato. But also Kosova and the entire region.

Leo

pre 11 godina

The esteemed father won't even have to pray much as NATO is already dysfunctional, hollowed out and the US is facing more inevitable military budget reductions that are resulting in a withdrawal from Europe.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

NATO WILL BREAK UP AS AN AFTERMATCH TO THE COMING BALKAN WAR !.

When the War braks out in the Mideast,
sertain members of NATO sourounding Serbia,
will seize the opportunity to go on the prey.

This will make the US to take Her stand against this,
and the result will be the breaking up of NATO.

Arn.Sweden.

Englishman

pre 11 godina

So it was OK for Serbia to send the military to Kosova and to kill the albanian population there but not for Nato to bomb Serbia to protect the people of Kosova `??

You are so evil thinking only about serbian lives. Albanian lives dosen't count to you. Where were you ''prayers'' when people in Kosova got killed by the mighty serbian army ??

But to not make your day both Montenegro and Serbia will join Nato. But also Kosova and the entire region.
(Demi, 15 July 2012 13:14)

The serb Military were killing KLA Terrorists that had been slaughtering Serb Police officers and throwing hand grenades into Cafes full of serbian Kids.

Lazar

pre 11 godina

Demi, NATO intervened knowing that intervention will make the situation a lot worse. And indeed, after NATO intervened it became far far far worse for both sides in that conflict. It did not help Albanians, trust me on that one.

Bledi, Serbs were the majority in Kosovo even in the 1800s, according to western surveyors. But, after continual persecution they lost that by the end of the 1800s. The final years of the 1800s were particularly brutal, which is when we really lost a lot of Serbs from kosovo and metohija. :( I at least know my history, whereas you have confirmed that you are either a silly fool, or that you are here for the purpose of harassing us.

Bledi

pre 11 godina

@SCP ,before Tito came to power ther were no Srbs in Kosovo at all,0,001%.We Albanians know exactly when the Srbs moved to Kosovo I mean every one of them.Stop spreding the propaganda that we came ther during Titos time ,that does not hold water any more,no one in the world belives you.Look at the buildings build in Kosova thats when the Srbs moved to our land.They lived in every building in all the cities in Kosova .those buildings were build in Albanian lands taken from your komunist goverment and Tito that you are so against now.Do not waste your time pope Albanians will be NATO for you if NATO brakes up and thats worst for you.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

@J.Oker, the albanians in Kosovo can say whatever they like, but you are drifting from the subject here. The Metropolitan said bombed 'us' because Serbs and 'Montenegrins' are exactly the same without any differences what so ever, language is the same, race is the same, religion is the same as are many other cultural traits.

@Bledi, I laughed pretty hard when I read your pathetic response. If you truly believe what you wrote about Serbs consisting of '0.001%' of Kosovo's population before Tito's time then you are either completely deluded or completely stupid. Funny that you accuse me of propaganda, your false info contradicts reality. Before Tito albanians were a minority in Kosovo, that is a fact proved by various censuses, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if the illegitimate mafia authorities in Pristina tried to get rid of all evidence proving this. Just to educate you a bit, Tito was bent on reducing Serb dominance thus being why he allowed so many albanians to migrate in from over the border. In the following years albanians terrorised many Serbs forcing them to flee so that albanians could move in on their property, the communists turned a blind eye as to not provoke nationalist feelings amongst Serbs, just like how they covered up the Croatian Ustase and Jasenovac crimes. When communism withered away we finally stepped on albanian aggression until NATO came and saved your sorry arses. Once again uder NATO protection albanians are free to terrorise, truth hurts.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"Look at the buildings build in Kosova thats when the Srbs moved to our land."
(Bledi, 15 July 2012 15:54)

Yes, but only if you look at the old Serbian orthodox churches and monasteries from centuries ago, right? :)

XYZ

pre 11 godina

@SCP ,before Tito came to power ther were no Srbs in Kosovo at all,0,001%.We Albanians know exactly when the Srbs moved to Kosovo I mean every one of them.Stop spreding the propaganda that we came ther during Titos time ,that does not hold water any more,no one in the world belives you.Look at the buildings build in Kosova thats when the Srbs moved to our land.They lived in every building in all the cities in Kosova .those buildings were build in Albanian lands taken from your komunist goverment and Tito that you are so against now.Do not waste your time pope Albanians will be NATO for you if NATO brakes up and thats worst for you.
(Bledi, 15 July 2012 15:54)

Bledi,

What are you smoking on buddy? Because what ever it is, it's making you delusional. Just look at the population census of Kosovo before 1945 and after 1945. It's readily available online, and please get back to me once you look at it. Your theory of no Serbs being in Kosovo before then is ridiculous. The sad thing is, when people constantly tell lies, they themselves tend to believe them. You seem to be a perfect example of just that! The truth is, people are seeing Albanians for who they are! Land grabbers, thief's, murderers (old ppl. women and children), and traffickers. Btw, it was Tito who allowed Albanians to flood Kosovo, in the hopes to appease Hoxa (or what ever his name is), in hopes Albania would join the Yugoslav union, because both weren't in the Warsaw pact. Please, learn your History!

rote

pre 11 godina

Serbian Orthodox Church got a strong immunity against the west as EUNATO enjoys almost no influence in the utmost conservative Orthodox World. Whatever the Ukrainian or South Ossetian politicians do one is remaining the confessional territory of Russia and the other of Georgia. Same with Montenegro which will remain the confessional territory of Serbia until the Serbian Orthodox Church wants so. Thus the clergymen here can do and say whatever they think with little care of what the Brussels or Washington or any other scoundrel will think of them. We all know how the Montenegro province has been torn away.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

“God, give us wisdom to help Europeans and Americans to dissolve NATO. That would be the biggest contribution of Montenegro to the world,” he pointed out.


You should preach the word of god, which peace and love, rather than talking about military issues.
He must have had to much slivovica when he gave this statement.

Paul

pre 11 godina

The North Atlantic Treaty Oranization is a creeping fungus that needs to be washed clean before it destroys the major powers it infects. The US in particular as a major contributor is the most threatened. The rest of the countries are huddled closer together and are easily much more cynical about it. Look at the way Turkey is going. All of its officers that were at one time the most intimate with NATO are in jail and Turkey drifts further and further into the hands of Islam. Look at the unrepentent fascists in Croatia. Look at Georgia playing chicken with Russia. NATO is a major disaster just waiting to happen.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

@J.Oker, yes Montenegrins are Serbs, thus why he said bombed 'us'. The border that exists between Serbia and CG is merely political the people are one.
(SCP UK, 15 July 2012 13:58)

Albanians in Kosovo say something similar :)

opium for the people

pre 11 godina

“God, give us wisdom to help Europeans and Americans to dissolve NATO. That would be the biggest contribution of Montenegro to the world,” he pointed out."

Is there a chapter in the bible he can refer to? If not he is a politician disguised as "holy man" (the Taliban have lots of those btw).
Mind you religion, love thy brother in whatever way you like and shut up!

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"The serb Military were killing KLA Terrorists that had been slaughtering Serb Police officers and throwing hand grenades into Cafes full of serbian Kids."
(Englishman, 15 July 2012 17:15)

Didn't I read something similar today? Oh, yes, there was a statement from Assad about the deeds of his glorious army :)

Bob

pre 11 godina

NATO has been the biggest force for peace for its members since WW2. NATO is not going away just because some very little person thinks it should.

As much as I love Serbia, I despise the kind of rabid nationalism that Milosevic and a number of posters on this site represent. The Bosnia fiasco (driven by mafiosi and corrupt politicians from all sides but by Milosevic in particular) put NATO in a position where it had to intervene in Kosovo. Milosevic played stupid provocative short-term games instead of finding solutions. He was an idiot at diplomacy.

The orthodox church in Serbia has failed to separate itself from justifying atrocious murders - I don't see that a religious organisation that is more interested in its own selfish nationalism than it is in addressing all of human kind should even be allowed to continue to exist without being challenged.

Why should anyone respect the opinions of religious old men? Read a bit about the true origin of the universe and apply your mind to whether there is any intervention of a 'God' in human affairs. What there really is, is a peculiar mind-set that is embedded in people from the days we hadn't got a clue about how the universe worked. Anyway, what is a 'god' other than a weird idea? The use of the word 'faith' is in itself just an omission of ignorance.

For the good of Serbia, let's please get rid of the primitivism of nationalists and orthodoxists.

truthiness

pre 11 godina

You cannot but have a bit of a giggle when you see a rabid hypernationlist ALWAYS refer to Croatia as fascist. PLease be kind enough to be honest and tell the rest of the world what is so fascist about the current Croatian state.
Is it the fact that it has had SERBIAN deputy PM's?
Is it the fact that it is for all intents and purposes a functioning democracy.
Is it the fact that there are procedures to allow Serbians displaced by the war allowed back into Croatia
Is it the fact that it actually DOES have memorials EVERY YEAR for the innmocent serb and non-serb victims of Jasenovac.


Apart from your inherent hatred of all things non-serb (especially where someone else is seen in a better light) there is NOTHING to substantiate your rascist views.- and yes you are racist.

But thats OK - the more you keep it up the more Europe and the rest of the world see that you in fact, all you do is maintain an old and outdated mentality - unprepared for the modern world and the challenges it brings.

It is not the thinking or actions of others that threatens Serbia or Serbians, it is the Serbains themselves who are their own worst enemy.The world waits for a modern Serbia with open and outstrecthed hands-and all it sees is an insecure thinking that only turns in on itslef and blames everyone else for its shortcomings.

The optimists amongst us have yet to lose hope for a better Serbia - it just doesnt seem to be anywhere on the horizon.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

No wonder Montenegro ,Macedonia and every one else dose not want the Greater Serb religiosity church and their brainwashed rabid followers who would. They should go back to Serbia I'm sure some Serbs brainwashing religiosity is wearing off. The self appointed Serb religiosity authorities could start pogroms their and keep them holy occupied.

Koha

pre 11 godina

Serbs who lived in Kosovo were Soldiers, UDB Agents, Police and their families, they lived in collective apartments Serbian Communist government build for them. These are facts.
Adios

roberto

pre 11 godina

Is there a chapter in the bible he can refer to? If not he is a politician disguised as "holy man" (the Taliban have lots of those btw).
Mind you religion, love thy brother in whatever way you like and shut up!(opium for the people, 15 July 2012 16:12)

Taliban is exactly right. but this one has the state and ever loyal media to back it up. whatever you call it, it sure ain't holy. holy h-ll...

roberto

little albanian friend

pre 11 godina

A question for all my big Serbian friends:
Can any of you name 3 religious and prosperous countries?
Not 10, just 3? It should be easy.

When you have men in dresses talk politics and people who follow them like sheep follow their sheepherder then the end result is a country like Serbia. Hoping to move forward but regressing by day. And, of course, the logical thing to do is blame the WEst and it's neighbors.

Amer

pre 11 godina

"Us? Montenegro was bombed? I didn't know that :)
(J.Oker, 15 July 2012 13:19) "

Nato dropped a few token bombs so that Milosevic couldn't accuse Montenegro of siding with Nato (which of course it was). The Serb army could have done a lot more damage than Nato did if Slobo had decided to send it in on a punishment mission. Sorry for the damage done.

Serbian prince

pre 11 godina

I couldn't understand how a republic would even consider joining an organization that bombed them for 78 days. One would have to be mentally disturbed to do so. It's beyond comprehension. Just a friendly reminder Montenegro...if you join the (Nato Nazi) alliance be prepared for a battle one day with Russia. If Nato is that important to you go for it.

sj

pre 11 godina

There is no fear about NATIO remaining in its current form. Yes the US would love to keep the status quo and be the big lad on the street, but it’s no longer up to Washington as its influence and capacity is sliding very fast down hill. This was not more apparent than at the time when Obama took office when he first visited the EU and asked them two things; to increase their troop’s numbers in Afghanistan and to increase stimulus money to kick start the economies of Europe. Both France and Germany said a big NO. This would have been unheard of in the 1950s – 1990s.

Since that time the US influence has become even smaller. Once NATO leaves Afghanistan, the battle group will fracture and split where Europe will form its own force and leave the US out in the cold, but the new partner will be Moscow because by 2014 it will meet about half of Europe’s energy needs.

Like it or not my little Albanian friends it’s going to happen. What your real worry is where will your next meal come from as the EU has started on another round of cut backs on expenditure.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

"Metropolitan hopes NATO will break up"

Yeh well I hope Lionel Messi joins Sheffield United, but it isn't going to happen. Same with NATO breaking up.

In fact there is more chance of Lionel Messi joining Sheffield United than there is NATO breaking up.

Besides he is a religious man not a politician, Politics isn't his area.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(SCP UK, 16 July 2012 18:13)

Yawn. Another hsotile meaningless rant by the holier than thou SCP UK.

Why won't NATO break up? Because the majority of NATO members are fanatical about the organisation and speand loads of money on it. And for your information I'm opposed to NATO (and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan), it is just the US's way of controlling European (and Canada's) military. I believe NATO should have ended with the Cold War. But NATO had to re-invent itself with this arificial "War on Terror". The West (Predominantly the US) use NATO to flex their muscles and exert pressure and influence on other countries. But your beloved Russia 'tries' to do the same, but it isn't as good at it. Russia is just very Jealous as it is a wannabe Superpower.

I dislike the BBC for being pro Royalist. But you're very quick to 'label' people. Should I label you as one who watches Russian Fox News aka Russia Today? A news channel known for its objectiveness and brilliant journalism... I think not.

And yes I know you hate the UK as it is horrid place to live and that you're desperate to leave. Can I ask when you're immigrating? or do you think you'll stay put for the time being and enjoy all the benifits of living in the UK? I assure you there will be many British people who will be willing to pay for you to immigrate if you need the help leaving such a nasty country.

Now you believe

pre 11 godina

Didn't I read something similar today? Oh, yes, there was a statement from Assad about the deeds of his glorious army :)
(J.Oker, 15 July 2012 19:19)

If it helps, you will find BBC reluctantly agrees.

"The BBC's Jim Muir, in neighbouring Lebanon, says the conclusions of UN observers have so far been more in line with the government's version of events than with reports of an indiscriminate massacre of civilians.

UN observers arrived in Tremseh as villagers claimed military forces had carried out indiscriminate attacks
He says the Tremseh killings appear to differ from the situation at Houla two months ago, when UN observers were able to arrive quickly and count the bodies of what was clearly a massacre.

He says that because the observers arrived in Tremseh 48 hours after the attack, all they could conclude was that it appeared to target rebel fighters or defectors from the Syrian army."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18846958

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Since that time the US influence has become even smaller. Once NATO leaves Afghanistan, the battle group will fracture and split where Europe will form its own force and leave the US out in the cold, but the new partner will be Moscow because by 2014 it will meet about half of Europe’s energy needs. "
(sj, 16 July 2012 04:38)

So far, the 'battle group' has only expanded in Europe to new members. While there once was another 'battle group' that fractured or better say... dissolved. Hint: Russia was a part of this group :)

zman

pre 11 godina

"It is not the thinking or actions of others that threatens Serbia or Serbians, it is the Serbains themselves who are their own worst enemy.The world waits for a modern Serbia with open and outstrecthed hands-and all it sees is an insecure thinking that only turns in on itslef and blames everyone else for its shortcomings."

It is not the thinking or actions of others that threatens Serbia or Serbians, it is the Serbains themselves who are their own worst enemy.The world waits for a modern Serbia with open and outstrecthed hands-and all it sees is an insecure thinking that only turns in on itslef and blames everyone else for its shortcomings.

a modern serbia?? lol what a joke.. Do you know the truth of the war in the balkans or do you listen to what's fed to you on CNN? There can be no "modern Serbia' until a goverment that puts the priorities of its citizens ahead of what the NATO occupation estabilshemnt wants.. Serbia hasn't had suc ha goverment since Milosevic.. But of course if you are resisting NATO powers you are a "hardline nationalist" a "genocidal Maniac" but if you are their puppet you are a "democract".. of course thse are all codewords for those are not obeidient and those who are.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

Oh look another English know it all Ian UK blabbering again. Please, enlighten us as to why you are so confident NATO wont break up. Typical arrogant English BBC watching attitudes, all is cosy in the UK while they take part in NATO's terrorism in the world, the English dont know what suffering is. Also how does it feel that the great Britannia is now a tool of the USA, a country which was once owned by the British? How pathetic, Brits should be ashamed of what their country has become.

Demi

pre 11 godina

So it was OK for Serbia to send the military to Kosova and to kill the albanian population there but not for Nato to bomb Serbia to protect the people of Kosova `??

You are so evil thinking only about serbian lives. Albanian lives dosen't count to you. Where were you ''prayers'' when people in Kosova got killed by the mighty serbian army ??

But to not make your day both Montenegro and Serbia will join Nato. But also Kosova and the entire region.

Bledi

pre 11 godina

@SCP ,before Tito came to power ther were no Srbs in Kosovo at all,0,001%.We Albanians know exactly when the Srbs moved to Kosovo I mean every one of them.Stop spreding the propaganda that we came ther during Titos time ,that does not hold water any more,no one in the world belives you.Look at the buildings build in Kosova thats when the Srbs moved to our land.They lived in every building in all the cities in Kosova .those buildings were build in Albanian lands taken from your komunist goverment and Tito that you are so against now.Do not waste your time pope Albanians will be NATO for you if NATO brakes up and thats worst for you.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

A truly great and brave statement made, NATO is the most evil organization which infects the earth in which we live. They breach the sovereignty of nations for their own gains, be it for territorial superiority, political control or the stealing of natural resources, while they fool the common idiots of the western world with the notions of humanitarian intervention, it is the most anti-humanitarian organization that exists. The breakup of NATO would be the biggest form of emancipation for the world, the collapse of todays evil empire.

@Demi, you comment is both utterly wrong and ignorant of the truth. Let me remind you, that before the war started in 1998 the albanian people had persecuted Serbs ever since Tito allowed your people to enter in their masses, and since then to this day the albanians have subjected the Serbian people and our Chruches to terror unimaginable right till now, only to have been protected by Tito, then by NATO after you cried like babies for their intervention, now that NATO protects you the terror continues. You talk of care for human life, could you care to comment on the albanians and their regard for the lives of Serbian civilians? The Metropolitan speaks not only of Serbian lives but the lives of all who have suffered at the hands of NATO terror, so again, your comment is meaningless and stupid.

@J.Oker, yes Montenegrins are Serbs, thus why he said bombed 'us'. The border that exists between Serbia and CG is merely political the people are one.

Koha

pre 11 godina

Serbs who lived in Kosovo were Soldiers, UDB Agents, Police and their families, they lived in collective apartments Serbian Communist government build for them. These are facts.
Adios

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

NATO WILL BREAK UP AS AN AFTERMATCH TO THE COMING BALKAN WAR !.

When the War braks out in the Mideast,
sertain members of NATO sourounding Serbia,
will seize the opportunity to go on the prey.

This will make the US to take Her stand against this,
and the result will be the breaking up of NATO.

Arn.Sweden.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

“I hope to god that Montenegro will not join NATO that bombed us,” he told Podgorica-based daily Dan.

Us? Montenegro was bombed? I didn't know that :)

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

“God, give us wisdom to help Europeans and Americans to dissolve NATO. That would be the biggest contribution of Montenegro to the world,” he pointed out.


You should preach the word of god, which peace and love, rather than talking about military issues.
He must have had to much slivovica when he gave this statement.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

@J.Oker, yes Montenegrins are Serbs, thus why he said bombed 'us'. The border that exists between Serbia and CG is merely political the people are one.
(SCP UK, 15 July 2012 13:58)

Albanians in Kosovo say something similar :)

Leo

pre 11 godina

The esteemed father won't even have to pray much as NATO is already dysfunctional, hollowed out and the US is facing more inevitable military budget reductions that are resulting in a withdrawal from Europe.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"The serb Military were killing KLA Terrorists that had been slaughtering Serb Police officers and throwing hand grenades into Cafes full of serbian Kids."
(Englishman, 15 July 2012 17:15)

Didn't I read something similar today? Oh, yes, there was a statement from Assad about the deeds of his glorious army :)

Amer

pre 11 godina

"Us? Montenegro was bombed? I didn't know that :)
(J.Oker, 15 July 2012 13:19) "

Nato dropped a few token bombs so that Milosevic couldn't accuse Montenegro of siding with Nato (which of course it was). The Serb army could have done a lot more damage than Nato did if Slobo had decided to send it in on a punishment mission. Sorry for the damage done.

opium for the people

pre 11 godina

“God, give us wisdom to help Europeans and Americans to dissolve NATO. That would be the biggest contribution of Montenegro to the world,” he pointed out."

Is there a chapter in the bible he can refer to? If not he is a politician disguised as "holy man" (the Taliban have lots of those btw).
Mind you religion, love thy brother in whatever way you like and shut up!

Englishman

pre 11 godina

So it was OK for Serbia to send the military to Kosova and to kill the albanian population there but not for Nato to bomb Serbia to protect the people of Kosova `??

You are so evil thinking only about serbian lives. Albanian lives dosen't count to you. Where were you ''prayers'' when people in Kosova got killed by the mighty serbian army ??

But to not make your day both Montenegro and Serbia will join Nato. But also Kosova and the entire region.
(Demi, 15 July 2012 13:14)

The serb Military were killing KLA Terrorists that had been slaughtering Serb Police officers and throwing hand grenades into Cafes full of serbian Kids.

Lazar

pre 11 godina

Demi, NATO intervened knowing that intervention will make the situation a lot worse. And indeed, after NATO intervened it became far far far worse for both sides in that conflict. It did not help Albanians, trust me on that one.

Bledi, Serbs were the majority in Kosovo even in the 1800s, according to western surveyors. But, after continual persecution they lost that by the end of the 1800s. The final years of the 1800s were particularly brutal, which is when we really lost a lot of Serbs from kosovo and metohija. :( I at least know my history, whereas you have confirmed that you are either a silly fool, or that you are here for the purpose of harassing us.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

@J.Oker, the albanians in Kosovo can say whatever they like, but you are drifting from the subject here. The Metropolitan said bombed 'us' because Serbs and 'Montenegrins' are exactly the same without any differences what so ever, language is the same, race is the same, religion is the same as are many other cultural traits.

@Bledi, I laughed pretty hard when I read your pathetic response. If you truly believe what you wrote about Serbs consisting of '0.001%' of Kosovo's population before Tito's time then you are either completely deluded or completely stupid. Funny that you accuse me of propaganda, your false info contradicts reality. Before Tito albanians were a minority in Kosovo, that is a fact proved by various censuses, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if the illegitimate mafia authorities in Pristina tried to get rid of all evidence proving this. Just to educate you a bit, Tito was bent on reducing Serb dominance thus being why he allowed so many albanians to migrate in from over the border. In the following years albanians terrorised many Serbs forcing them to flee so that albanians could move in on their property, the communists turned a blind eye as to not provoke nationalist feelings amongst Serbs, just like how they covered up the Croatian Ustase and Jasenovac crimes. When communism withered away we finally stepped on albanian aggression until NATO came and saved your sorry arses. Once again uder NATO protection albanians are free to terrorise, truth hurts.

XYZ

pre 11 godina

@SCP ,before Tito came to power ther were no Srbs in Kosovo at all,0,001%.We Albanians know exactly when the Srbs moved to Kosovo I mean every one of them.Stop spreding the propaganda that we came ther during Titos time ,that does not hold water any more,no one in the world belives you.Look at the buildings build in Kosova thats when the Srbs moved to our land.They lived in every building in all the cities in Kosova .those buildings were build in Albanian lands taken from your komunist goverment and Tito that you are so against now.Do not waste your time pope Albanians will be NATO for you if NATO brakes up and thats worst for you.
(Bledi, 15 July 2012 15:54)

Bledi,

What are you smoking on buddy? Because what ever it is, it's making you delusional. Just look at the population census of Kosovo before 1945 and after 1945. It's readily available online, and please get back to me once you look at it. Your theory of no Serbs being in Kosovo before then is ridiculous. The sad thing is, when people constantly tell lies, they themselves tend to believe them. You seem to be a perfect example of just that! The truth is, people are seeing Albanians for who they are! Land grabbers, thief's, murderers (old ppl. women and children), and traffickers. Btw, it was Tito who allowed Albanians to flood Kosovo, in the hopes to appease Hoxa (or what ever his name is), in hopes Albania would join the Yugoslav union, because both weren't in the Warsaw pact. Please, learn your History!

Paul

pre 11 godina

The North Atlantic Treaty Oranization is a creeping fungus that needs to be washed clean before it destroys the major powers it infects. The US in particular as a major contributor is the most threatened. The rest of the countries are huddled closer together and are easily much more cynical about it. Look at the way Turkey is going. All of its officers that were at one time the most intimate with NATO are in jail and Turkey drifts further and further into the hands of Islam. Look at the unrepentent fascists in Croatia. Look at Georgia playing chicken with Russia. NATO is a major disaster just waiting to happen.

Bob

pre 11 godina

NATO has been the biggest force for peace for its members since WW2. NATO is not going away just because some very little person thinks it should.

As much as I love Serbia, I despise the kind of rabid nationalism that Milosevic and a number of posters on this site represent. The Bosnia fiasco (driven by mafiosi and corrupt politicians from all sides but by Milosevic in particular) put NATO in a position where it had to intervene in Kosovo. Milosevic played stupid provocative short-term games instead of finding solutions. He was an idiot at diplomacy.

The orthodox church in Serbia has failed to separate itself from justifying atrocious murders - I don't see that a religious organisation that is more interested in its own selfish nationalism than it is in addressing all of human kind should even be allowed to continue to exist without being challenged.

Why should anyone respect the opinions of religious old men? Read a bit about the true origin of the universe and apply your mind to whether there is any intervention of a 'God' in human affairs. What there really is, is a peculiar mind-set that is embedded in people from the days we hadn't got a clue about how the universe worked. Anyway, what is a 'god' other than a weird idea? The use of the word 'faith' is in itself just an omission of ignorance.

For the good of Serbia, let's please get rid of the primitivism of nationalists and orthodoxists.

Serbian prince

pre 11 godina

I couldn't understand how a republic would even consider joining an organization that bombed them for 78 days. One would have to be mentally disturbed to do so. It's beyond comprehension. Just a friendly reminder Montenegro...if you join the (Nato Nazi) alliance be prepared for a battle one day with Russia. If Nato is that important to you go for it.

rote

pre 11 godina

Serbian Orthodox Church got a strong immunity against the west as EUNATO enjoys almost no influence in the utmost conservative Orthodox World. Whatever the Ukrainian or South Ossetian politicians do one is remaining the confessional territory of Russia and the other of Georgia. Same with Montenegro which will remain the confessional territory of Serbia until the Serbian Orthodox Church wants so. Thus the clergymen here can do and say whatever they think with little care of what the Brussels or Washington or any other scoundrel will think of them. We all know how the Montenegro province has been torn away.

roberto

pre 11 godina

Is there a chapter in the bible he can refer to? If not he is a politician disguised as "holy man" (the Taliban have lots of those btw).
Mind you religion, love thy brother in whatever way you like and shut up!(opium for the people, 15 July 2012 16:12)

Taliban is exactly right. but this one has the state and ever loyal media to back it up. whatever you call it, it sure ain't holy. holy h-ll...

roberto

sj

pre 11 godina

There is no fear about NATIO remaining in its current form. Yes the US would love to keep the status quo and be the big lad on the street, but it’s no longer up to Washington as its influence and capacity is sliding very fast down hill. This was not more apparent than at the time when Obama took office when he first visited the EU and asked them two things; to increase their troop’s numbers in Afghanistan and to increase stimulus money to kick start the economies of Europe. Both France and Germany said a big NO. This would have been unheard of in the 1950s – 1990s.

Since that time the US influence has become even smaller. Once NATO leaves Afghanistan, the battle group will fracture and split where Europe will form its own force and leave the US out in the cold, but the new partner will be Moscow because by 2014 it will meet about half of Europe’s energy needs.

Like it or not my little Albanian friends it’s going to happen. What your real worry is where will your next meal come from as the EU has started on another round of cut backs on expenditure.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

Oh look another English know it all Ian UK blabbering again. Please, enlighten us as to why you are so confident NATO wont break up. Typical arrogant English BBC watching attitudes, all is cosy in the UK while they take part in NATO's terrorism in the world, the English dont know what suffering is. Also how does it feel that the great Britannia is now a tool of the USA, a country which was once owned by the British? How pathetic, Brits should be ashamed of what their country has become.

truthiness

pre 11 godina

You cannot but have a bit of a giggle when you see a rabid hypernationlist ALWAYS refer to Croatia as fascist. PLease be kind enough to be honest and tell the rest of the world what is so fascist about the current Croatian state.
Is it the fact that it has had SERBIAN deputy PM's?
Is it the fact that it is for all intents and purposes a functioning democracy.
Is it the fact that there are procedures to allow Serbians displaced by the war allowed back into Croatia
Is it the fact that it actually DOES have memorials EVERY YEAR for the innmocent serb and non-serb victims of Jasenovac.


Apart from your inherent hatred of all things non-serb (especially where someone else is seen in a better light) there is NOTHING to substantiate your rascist views.- and yes you are racist.

But thats OK - the more you keep it up the more Europe and the rest of the world see that you in fact, all you do is maintain an old and outdated mentality - unprepared for the modern world and the challenges it brings.

It is not the thinking or actions of others that threatens Serbia or Serbians, it is the Serbains themselves who are their own worst enemy.The world waits for a modern Serbia with open and outstrecthed hands-and all it sees is an insecure thinking that only turns in on itslef and blames everyone else for its shortcomings.

The optimists amongst us have yet to lose hope for a better Serbia - it just doesnt seem to be anywhere on the horizon.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"Look at the buildings build in Kosova thats when the Srbs moved to our land."
(Bledi, 15 July 2012 15:54)

Yes, but only if you look at the old Serbian orthodox churches and monasteries from centuries ago, right? :)

zman

pre 11 godina

"It is not the thinking or actions of others that threatens Serbia or Serbians, it is the Serbains themselves who are their own worst enemy.The world waits for a modern Serbia with open and outstrecthed hands-and all it sees is an insecure thinking that only turns in on itslef and blames everyone else for its shortcomings."

It is not the thinking or actions of others that threatens Serbia or Serbians, it is the Serbains themselves who are their own worst enemy.The world waits for a modern Serbia with open and outstrecthed hands-and all it sees is an insecure thinking that only turns in on itslef and blames everyone else for its shortcomings.

a modern serbia?? lol what a joke.. Do you know the truth of the war in the balkans or do you listen to what's fed to you on CNN? There can be no "modern Serbia' until a goverment that puts the priorities of its citizens ahead of what the NATO occupation estabilshemnt wants.. Serbia hasn't had suc ha goverment since Milosevic.. But of course if you are resisting NATO powers you are a "hardline nationalist" a "genocidal Maniac" but if you are their puppet you are a "democract".. of course thse are all codewords for those are not obeidient and those who are.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

No wonder Montenegro ,Macedonia and every one else dose not want the Greater Serb religiosity church and their brainwashed rabid followers who would. They should go back to Serbia I'm sure some Serbs brainwashing religiosity is wearing off. The self appointed Serb religiosity authorities could start pogroms their and keep them holy occupied.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

"Metropolitan hopes NATO will break up"

Yeh well I hope Lionel Messi joins Sheffield United, but it isn't going to happen. Same with NATO breaking up.

In fact there is more chance of Lionel Messi joining Sheffield United than there is NATO breaking up.

Besides he is a religious man not a politician, Politics isn't his area.

Now you believe

pre 11 godina

Didn't I read something similar today? Oh, yes, there was a statement from Assad about the deeds of his glorious army :)
(J.Oker, 15 July 2012 19:19)

If it helps, you will find BBC reluctantly agrees.

"The BBC's Jim Muir, in neighbouring Lebanon, says the conclusions of UN observers have so far been more in line with the government's version of events than with reports of an indiscriminate massacre of civilians.

UN observers arrived in Tremseh as villagers claimed military forces had carried out indiscriminate attacks
He says the Tremseh killings appear to differ from the situation at Houla two months ago, when UN observers were able to arrive quickly and count the bodies of what was clearly a massacre.

He says that because the observers arrived in Tremseh 48 hours after the attack, all they could conclude was that it appeared to target rebel fighters or defectors from the Syrian army."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18846958

little albanian friend

pre 11 godina

A question for all my big Serbian friends:
Can any of you name 3 religious and prosperous countries?
Not 10, just 3? It should be easy.

When you have men in dresses talk politics and people who follow them like sheep follow their sheepherder then the end result is a country like Serbia. Hoping to move forward but regressing by day. And, of course, the logical thing to do is blame the WEst and it's neighbors.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Since that time the US influence has become even smaller. Once NATO leaves Afghanistan, the battle group will fracture and split where Europe will form its own force and leave the US out in the cold, but the new partner will be Moscow because by 2014 it will meet about half of Europe’s energy needs. "
(sj, 16 July 2012 04:38)

So far, the 'battle group' has only expanded in Europe to new members. While there once was another 'battle group' that fractured or better say... dissolved. Hint: Russia was a part of this group :)

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(SCP UK, 16 July 2012 18:13)

Yawn. Another hsotile meaningless rant by the holier than thou SCP UK.

Why won't NATO break up? Because the majority of NATO members are fanatical about the organisation and speand loads of money on it. And for your information I'm opposed to NATO (and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan), it is just the US's way of controlling European (and Canada's) military. I believe NATO should have ended with the Cold War. But NATO had to re-invent itself with this arificial "War on Terror". The West (Predominantly the US) use NATO to flex their muscles and exert pressure and influence on other countries. But your beloved Russia 'tries' to do the same, but it isn't as good at it. Russia is just very Jealous as it is a wannabe Superpower.

I dislike the BBC for being pro Royalist. But you're very quick to 'label' people. Should I label you as one who watches Russian Fox News aka Russia Today? A news channel known for its objectiveness and brilliant journalism... I think not.

And yes I know you hate the UK as it is horrid place to live and that you're desperate to leave. Can I ask when you're immigrating? or do you think you'll stay put for the time being and enjoy all the benifits of living in the UK? I assure you there will be many British people who will be willing to pay for you to immigrate if you need the help leaving such a nasty country.