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Saturday, 14.07.2012.

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“Constitutional Court’s decision on Vojvodina is political”

The Constitutional Court’s decision to declare parts of the Law on Establishing Jurisdiction of Vojvodina is political, says Bojan Pajtić.

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oopsy

pre 11 godina

So Lenard, who got kicked out of Vojvodina to make room for the extra Serbs there? What ethnic cleansing are you talking about? How is it ethnic cleansing if nobody gets kicked out, unlike your Operation Storm which has produced all these extra Serbs in the reason?
This is a direct result of YOUR ETHNIC CLEANSING, not ours.
(Peggy, 15 July 2012 08:39)

Study your history first, comment afterwards:
"During and after the military administration, several thousands of citizens were killed - this affected mostly ethnic Germans, but also one part of Hungarian and Serb populations. Both the war-time Axis occupational authorities and the post-war communist authorities ran concentration/prison camps in the territory of Vojvodina (See the List of concentration and internment camps). While war-time prisoners in these camps were mostly Jews, Serbs and communists, post-war camps were formed for ethnic Germans (Danube Swabians). Most Vojvodina Germans (about 200,000) left from the region in 1944, together with the defeated German army. Most of those who remained in the region (about 150,000) were sent to some of the villages cordoned off as prisons. It is estimated that some 48,447 Germans died in the camps from disease, hunger, malnutrition, mistreatment, and coldness. Some 8,049 Germans were killed by partisans during military administration in Vojvodina after October 1944. It is also estimated that post-war communist authorities killed some 20,000 Hungarians and 23,000-24,000 Serbs."

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Lenard wrote:

"The Serb ethnic cleansing continues subtly with subterfuge now. "
So Lenard, who got kicked out of Vojvodina to make room for the extra Serbs there? What ethnic cleansing are you talking about? How is it ethnic cleansing if nobody gets kicked out, unlike your Operation Storm which has produced all these extra Serbs in the reason?

This is a direct result of YOUR ETHNIC CLEANSING, not ours.

mick

pre 11 godina

@Lenard
Serbs were 97% in 1720!
Then the Austrians decided to repopulate the region with Germans/Hungarians/Slovaks etc
And since 1848, Vojvodina has been part of the Hungarian kingdom, and it was in Hungary's interest to have much more Hungarians living there.
So eventually the % Serbs dropped in 1900....

Ned Taylor

pre 11 godina

Ecoman: I don't think Pajtic was complaining that governments make political decisions because as you rightly point out that is their job. He was expressing an opinion that the decision of the Constitutional Court was politically motivated. Whether or not you agree with him, there is a clear difference between the two points.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

well it doesnt matter what he thinks because its done and the office in brussels is shutting down and they have lost their dumb status and by the way its happening because serbs are about 80% in the new census.the minorites have shrunk big time from age and death and they are leaving even most hungarians dont realy care and their population is only about 220,000 now in the province thats a major drop...
(tom, 14 July 2012 17:13) The Serb ethnic cleansing continues subtly with subterfuge now. Serbs only made 30% of Vojodina province population in the last century. It was one of the more prosperous regions now it is going to the poor house and shabby thanks to Belgrade Serbia ripping it off continually. Serb population demographics is the worst in the world so its not like you say Tom of the other peoples and why they leave and left Vojovodina its all due to you Great Serbs. Serbs complain of Albanians you Serbs are no different gee you both even have a deformed double headed eagle on your crests coincidence I think not.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Mr. Pajtić, all the actions of world governments are political, why wouldn't something to do with Vojvodina be any different? Politicians, when they have noting else to counter an action they disagree with, is always labelled as political - have you all noticed? Mr. Pajtic, Vojvodina, especially Novi Sad, looks like a third world country compared to Belgrade, why is that? Is it because it's political, or is it because you guys that govern Vojvodina are inept, and basically concentrate on keeping your seats, like the rest of Serbian politicians, but like to blame others for their misfortunes?

tom

pre 11 godina

well it doesnt matter what he thinks because its done and the office in brussels is shutting down and they have lost their dumb status and by the way its happening because serbs are about 80% in the new census.the minorites have shrunk big time from age and death and they are leaving even most hungarians dont realy care and their population is only about 220,000 now in the province thats a major drop...

staljin

pre 11 godina

Pajtic said that the decision is contrary to the Constitutional Court ratified the regulations of an international character!
Why is this so when he was the last government?

booksar

pre 11 godina

The decision of the Constitutional Court is not political at all as to say the two leaders of their parties in Vojvodini.Kad will realize that the constitution was checked is not Vojvodina got to the court that they make that decision.

staljin

pre 11 godina

Pajtic said that the decision is contrary to the Constitutional Court ratified the regulations of an international character!
Why is this so when he was the last government?

tom

pre 11 godina

well it doesnt matter what he thinks because its done and the office in brussels is shutting down and they have lost their dumb status and by the way its happening because serbs are about 80% in the new census.the minorites have shrunk big time from age and death and they are leaving even most hungarians dont realy care and their population is only about 220,000 now in the province thats a major drop...

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Mr. Pajtić, all the actions of world governments are political, why wouldn't something to do with Vojvodina be any different? Politicians, when they have noting else to counter an action they disagree with, is always labelled as political - have you all noticed? Mr. Pajtic, Vojvodina, especially Novi Sad, looks like a third world country compared to Belgrade, why is that? Is it because it's political, or is it because you guys that govern Vojvodina are inept, and basically concentrate on keeping your seats, like the rest of Serbian politicians, but like to blame others for their misfortunes?

oopsy

pre 11 godina

So Lenard, who got kicked out of Vojvodina to make room for the extra Serbs there? What ethnic cleansing are you talking about? How is it ethnic cleansing if nobody gets kicked out, unlike your Operation Storm which has produced all these extra Serbs in the reason?
This is a direct result of YOUR ETHNIC CLEANSING, not ours.
(Peggy, 15 July 2012 08:39)

Study your history first, comment afterwards:
"During and after the military administration, several thousands of citizens were killed - this affected mostly ethnic Germans, but also one part of Hungarian and Serb populations. Both the war-time Axis occupational authorities and the post-war communist authorities ran concentration/prison camps in the territory of Vojvodina (See the List of concentration and internment camps). While war-time prisoners in these camps were mostly Jews, Serbs and communists, post-war camps were formed for ethnic Germans (Danube Swabians). Most Vojvodina Germans (about 200,000) left from the region in 1944, together with the defeated German army. Most of those who remained in the region (about 150,000) were sent to some of the villages cordoned off as prisons. It is estimated that some 48,447 Germans died in the camps from disease, hunger, malnutrition, mistreatment, and coldness. Some 8,049 Germans were killed by partisans during military administration in Vojvodina after October 1944. It is also estimated that post-war communist authorities killed some 20,000 Hungarians and 23,000-24,000 Serbs."

Lenard

pre 11 godina

well it doesnt matter what he thinks because its done and the office in brussels is shutting down and they have lost their dumb status and by the way its happening because serbs are about 80% in the new census.the minorites have shrunk big time from age and death and they are leaving even most hungarians dont realy care and their population is only about 220,000 now in the province thats a major drop...
(tom, 14 July 2012 17:13) The Serb ethnic cleansing continues subtly with subterfuge now. Serbs only made 30% of Vojodina province population in the last century. It was one of the more prosperous regions now it is going to the poor house and shabby thanks to Belgrade Serbia ripping it off continually. Serb population demographics is the worst in the world so its not like you say Tom of the other peoples and why they leave and left Vojovodina its all due to you Great Serbs. Serbs complain of Albanians you Serbs are no different gee you both even have a deformed double headed eagle on your crests coincidence I think not.

Ned Taylor

pre 11 godina

Ecoman: I don't think Pajtic was complaining that governments make political decisions because as you rightly point out that is their job. He was expressing an opinion that the decision of the Constitutional Court was politically motivated. Whether or not you agree with him, there is a clear difference between the two points.

mick

pre 11 godina

@Lenard
Serbs were 97% in 1720!
Then the Austrians decided to repopulate the region with Germans/Hungarians/Slovaks etc
And since 1848, Vojvodina has been part of the Hungarian kingdom, and it was in Hungary's interest to have much more Hungarians living there.
So eventually the % Serbs dropped in 1900....

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Lenard wrote:

"The Serb ethnic cleansing continues subtly with subterfuge now. "
So Lenard, who got kicked out of Vojvodina to make room for the extra Serbs there? What ethnic cleansing are you talking about? How is it ethnic cleansing if nobody gets kicked out, unlike your Operation Storm which has produced all these extra Serbs in the reason?

This is a direct result of YOUR ETHNIC CLEANSING, not ours.

booksar

pre 11 godina

The decision of the Constitutional Court is not political at all as to say the two leaders of their parties in Vojvodini.Kad will realize that the constitution was checked is not Vojvodina got to the court that they make that decision.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

well it doesnt matter what he thinks because its done and the office in brussels is shutting down and they have lost their dumb status and by the way its happening because serbs are about 80% in the new census.the minorites have shrunk big time from age and death and they are leaving even most hungarians dont realy care and their population is only about 220,000 now in the province thats a major drop...
(tom, 14 July 2012 17:13) The Serb ethnic cleansing continues subtly with subterfuge now. Serbs only made 30% of Vojodina province population in the last century. It was one of the more prosperous regions now it is going to the poor house and shabby thanks to Belgrade Serbia ripping it off continually. Serb population demographics is the worst in the world so its not like you say Tom of the other peoples and why they leave and left Vojovodina its all due to you Great Serbs. Serbs complain of Albanians you Serbs are no different gee you both even have a deformed double headed eagle on your crests coincidence I think not.

booksar

pre 11 godina

The decision of the Constitutional Court is not political at all as to say the two leaders of their parties in Vojvodini.Kad will realize that the constitution was checked is not Vojvodina got to the court that they make that decision.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Mr. Pajtić, all the actions of world governments are political, why wouldn't something to do with Vojvodina be any different? Politicians, when they have noting else to counter an action they disagree with, is always labelled as political - have you all noticed? Mr. Pajtic, Vojvodina, especially Novi Sad, looks like a third world country compared to Belgrade, why is that? Is it because it's political, or is it because you guys that govern Vojvodina are inept, and basically concentrate on keeping your seats, like the rest of Serbian politicians, but like to blame others for their misfortunes?

tom

pre 11 godina

well it doesnt matter what he thinks because its done and the office in brussels is shutting down and they have lost their dumb status and by the way its happening because serbs are about 80% in the new census.the minorites have shrunk big time from age and death and they are leaving even most hungarians dont realy care and their population is only about 220,000 now in the province thats a major drop...

mick

pre 11 godina

@Lenard
Serbs were 97% in 1720!
Then the Austrians decided to repopulate the region with Germans/Hungarians/Slovaks etc
And since 1848, Vojvodina has been part of the Hungarian kingdom, and it was in Hungary's interest to have much more Hungarians living there.
So eventually the % Serbs dropped in 1900....

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Lenard wrote:

"The Serb ethnic cleansing continues subtly with subterfuge now. "
So Lenard, who got kicked out of Vojvodina to make room for the extra Serbs there? What ethnic cleansing are you talking about? How is it ethnic cleansing if nobody gets kicked out, unlike your Operation Storm which has produced all these extra Serbs in the reason?

This is a direct result of YOUR ETHNIC CLEANSING, not ours.

staljin

pre 11 godina

Pajtic said that the decision is contrary to the Constitutional Court ratified the regulations of an international character!
Why is this so when he was the last government?

Ned Taylor

pre 11 godina

Ecoman: I don't think Pajtic was complaining that governments make political decisions because as you rightly point out that is their job. He was expressing an opinion that the decision of the Constitutional Court was politically motivated. Whether or not you agree with him, there is a clear difference between the two points.

oopsy

pre 11 godina

So Lenard, who got kicked out of Vojvodina to make room for the extra Serbs there? What ethnic cleansing are you talking about? How is it ethnic cleansing if nobody gets kicked out, unlike your Operation Storm which has produced all these extra Serbs in the reason?
This is a direct result of YOUR ETHNIC CLEANSING, not ours.
(Peggy, 15 July 2012 08:39)

Study your history first, comment afterwards:
"During and after the military administration, several thousands of citizens were killed - this affected mostly ethnic Germans, but also one part of Hungarian and Serb populations. Both the war-time Axis occupational authorities and the post-war communist authorities ran concentration/prison camps in the territory of Vojvodina (See the List of concentration and internment camps). While war-time prisoners in these camps were mostly Jews, Serbs and communists, post-war camps were formed for ethnic Germans (Danube Swabians). Most Vojvodina Germans (about 200,000) left from the region in 1944, together with the defeated German army. Most of those who remained in the region (about 150,000) were sent to some of the villages cordoned off as prisons. It is estimated that some 48,447 Germans died in the camps from disease, hunger, malnutrition, mistreatment, and coldness. Some 8,049 Germans were killed by partisans during military administration in Vojvodina after October 1944. It is also estimated that post-war communist authorities killed some 20,000 Hungarians and 23,000-24,000 Serbs."