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Thursday, 12.07.2012.

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Serb victims from Srebrenica region remembered

Seven recently identified Bosnian Serb soldiers, killed on July 12, 1992 in the village of Zalazje near Srebrenica, have been laid to rest today.

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iko

pre 11 godina

@ Daniel you have not understood the conflict if you reduce it to Bos Moslems wanting their own monocultural society. True you correct the mistaken figures of 100,000 Bosniaks dying but you overlook the intent of the RS architects and the horrific simplicity of what spilling blood unleashes.

RE your country men, you overlook the Iraqi conflict where sanctions alone killed 1.5 million Iraqis, 500,000 under 5. Having said this, US foreign policy is not couched as a distraction from such revelations - they really don’t care. Had they cared then ethnic culling would never have eventuated. It could have been a circus maximus of political grandstanding and huffing and puffing of cultural importance with elections and more huffing and puffing till they found a common ground as most of the electorates in the west sort of find- but would not have been allowed to become a bloodbath.

There are no winners in this outcome- greater Serbia can never use that term without the irony of what is lost for them in the word association of ‘greatness’. The Bos Moslems have become less the tolerant and multicultural aspirants that they proudly claimed. The Bos Croats would not be associated with political opportunism and betrayal. The west would not be seen as the modern equivalent of Pontius Pilate. The UN could have had some sort of legitimacy as ambassadors for humanity. Instead we have 100,000 people and their families who cannot enjoy what we all take for granted.

Willi Pfaff

pre 11 godina

read it, and don't tell me it is all western propagande. This is real ----

http://www.bim.ba/en/330/10/35489/?utm_source=Justice+Report&utm_campaign=9c4442e9c3-Justice_Report_EN3_12_2012&utm_medium=email

Daniel

pre 11 godina

"as the article clearly says, these guys were soldiers, not civilians. It has to be assumed that they were attacking Bosniaks, and the Bosniaks simply fought back. This entire article is a farce, no word, no mention, of the proven war crimes, the genocide serb soldiers committed all over Bosnia. Rembember, 100000 civilians Bosians were killed by serb miltitary...", and that is what has to sink into the serb public percetion; ha
(Willi Pfaff, 13 July 2012 10:08)

100,000 civilians??? Where did you get those numbers? You should read before writing. Look at the official figures. The majority of individuals killed were soldiers. This BS has to stop. There is this story line that everyone is forced to hold. Failure to do so must invoke some horrible consequences because there are so many sheep out there scared of speaking the truth. The truth is very simple. There were lots of deaths in Bosnia but Bosnian Muslims used this war to gain their own country, including inflating figures and pretending that there were concentration camps the likes of what was seen in Germany. Let's not forget some facts. The only disgusting people in the past 100 years have been the Germans killing SIX MILLION JEWS and MILLIONS of Russians and others. The Germans and my American countrymen use all these other incidents to divert attention from their own crimes. Was it necessary I ask to massacre over a quarter of a million Japanese civilians with two atomic bombs? Stop the BS.

Svetislav

pre 11 godina

There he goes again, the revisinostic Mr. Willi Pfaff...

In your eyes it was then also justified, that thousand of german imprisoned Soldiers (POW) died in Sibiria after WW2, because the german soldiers were involded in the killing of inocent civillians?

I just want to know if you see these things equal...

Willi Pfaff

pre 11 godina

as the article clearly says, these guys were soldiers, not civilians. It has to be assumed that they were attacking Bosniaks, and the Bosniaks simply fought back. This entire article is a farce, no word, no mention, of the proven war crimes, the genocide serb soldiers committed all over Bosnia. Rembember, 100000 civilians Bosians were killed by serb miltitary, and that is what has to sink into the serb public percetion; has to be seen. There is no excuse for what the serbian military did anywhere in the Balkans, and before that is not realized, Serbia can and will not become an EU member, and will not be welcomed in the group of free nations. The nationalist cries here are redicules, tastless, and beyond anything acceptable to any peace loving person. Serbia has to face its own violent past, and stop finding excuses, and see itself as the victim of the brutal and inhumane war of the 90. Serbia started it, and had to be bombed, just like Germany in WWII to stop the aggression. Too much bloodshed happened in the name of Serbia, and nobody, except a few brainwashed Russians, believes the serbian story tellers.
It would be good for Serbia if it faces this past, just like it was good for Germany to face its past. Serbia can only gain from such a process, become a better country, and be in with peace with itself again. Reflection on what was done in its name, and realizing that there was no excuse for it. That is the only way to go, nothing else works.

ida

pre 11 godina

"Their families, however, accuse the Identification Center in Tuzla of foul play: that this institution removed some parts of the skeletons in order to hide the nature of the crime committed against the Serb prisoners, Srna news agency is reporting.."

It is important to point out that the ID center in Tuzla doesn't even have official certification. The official certification agency (based in Germany) says that they can not get into the Tuzla Center to assess it and inspect it.

The Tuzla Center is secretive and obviously they won't allow official oversight because they are doing underhanded and deceitful things. And I do believe that the accusations of them tampering with the bodies and taking away bones to hide evidence is true.

I think the Serbian survivors and the RS in Bosnia and Serbia should sue the ID Center in Tuzla for full disclosure and opening it and the results to official international inspectors.

Too many Serbs are just sitting back and being complacent and that keeps truth buried.

ZMAJ

pre 11 godina

not interested in hearing about serb victims until belgrade and rep srpska acknowledge GENOCIDE in srebrenica did occur.
(milorad, 12 July 2012 19:56)

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Losing interest could be early Schizophrenia symptom and this is quite good place to find candidates.. Congratulations!

modesty blaise

pre 11 godina

Finally, we might be able to honour ALL the victims who perished in Srebrenica, not only one side of this tragedy whilst the other side is coerced into silence and dismissed as if they don't matter.

ivan

pre 11 godina

There is little in western propaganda regarding the Serbs. Please see link below, like the Sarajevo market shooting, it was all staged. So was Srebanica.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_07_11/Clinton-suggested-extermination-of-5000-Muslims-in-Srebrenica/

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

So where is Serbia's arrest warrant for Naser Oric? It seems they have to time to hand them out against their own people for attacking the US embassy, a minor crime, but for a crime against Serbs nothing. The trail of Oric in the ICTY was a blatant farce, one doesn't get 2 years for such crimes then with early release for such henious crimes, that man deserves the longest and most painful death imaginable.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

So where is Serbia's arrest warrant for Naser Oric? It seems they have to time to hand them out against their own people for attacking the US embassy, a minor crime, but for a crime against Serbs nothing. The trail of Oric in the ICTY was a blatant farce, one doesn't get 2 years for such crimes then with early release for such henious crimes, that man deserves the longest and most painful death imaginable.

modesty blaise

pre 11 godina

Finally, we might be able to honour ALL the victims who perished in Srebrenica, not only one side of this tragedy whilst the other side is coerced into silence and dismissed as if they don't matter.

ivan

pre 11 godina

There is little in western propaganda regarding the Serbs. Please see link below, like the Sarajevo market shooting, it was all staged. So was Srebanica.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_07_11/Clinton-suggested-extermination-of-5000-Muslims-in-Srebrenica/

Svetislav

pre 11 godina

There he goes again, the revisinostic Mr. Willi Pfaff...

In your eyes it was then also justified, that thousand of german imprisoned Soldiers (POW) died in Sibiria after WW2, because the german soldiers were involded in the killing of inocent civillians?

I just want to know if you see these things equal...

Daniel

pre 11 godina

"as the article clearly says, these guys were soldiers, not civilians. It has to be assumed that they were attacking Bosniaks, and the Bosniaks simply fought back. This entire article is a farce, no word, no mention, of the proven war crimes, the genocide serb soldiers committed all over Bosnia. Rembember, 100000 civilians Bosians were killed by serb miltitary...", and that is what has to sink into the serb public percetion; ha
(Willi Pfaff, 13 July 2012 10:08)

100,000 civilians??? Where did you get those numbers? You should read before writing. Look at the official figures. The majority of individuals killed were soldiers. This BS has to stop. There is this story line that everyone is forced to hold. Failure to do so must invoke some horrible consequences because there are so many sheep out there scared of speaking the truth. The truth is very simple. There were lots of deaths in Bosnia but Bosnian Muslims used this war to gain their own country, including inflating figures and pretending that there were concentration camps the likes of what was seen in Germany. Let's not forget some facts. The only disgusting people in the past 100 years have been the Germans killing SIX MILLION JEWS and MILLIONS of Russians and others. The Germans and my American countrymen use all these other incidents to divert attention from their own crimes. Was it necessary I ask to massacre over a quarter of a million Japanese civilians with two atomic bombs? Stop the BS.

ZMAJ

pre 11 godina

not interested in hearing about serb victims until belgrade and rep srpska acknowledge GENOCIDE in srebrenica did occur.
(milorad, 12 July 2012 19:56)

=======

Losing interest could be early Schizophrenia symptom and this is quite good place to find candidates.. Congratulations!

ida

pre 11 godina

"Their families, however, accuse the Identification Center in Tuzla of foul play: that this institution removed some parts of the skeletons in order to hide the nature of the crime committed against the Serb prisoners, Srna news agency is reporting.."

It is important to point out that the ID center in Tuzla doesn't even have official certification. The official certification agency (based in Germany) says that they can not get into the Tuzla Center to assess it and inspect it.

The Tuzla Center is secretive and obviously they won't allow official oversight because they are doing underhanded and deceitful things. And I do believe that the accusations of them tampering with the bodies and taking away bones to hide evidence is true.

I think the Serbian survivors and the RS in Bosnia and Serbia should sue the ID Center in Tuzla for full disclosure and opening it and the results to official international inspectors.

Too many Serbs are just sitting back and being complacent and that keeps truth buried.

Willi Pfaff

pre 11 godina

as the article clearly says, these guys were soldiers, not civilians. It has to be assumed that they were attacking Bosniaks, and the Bosniaks simply fought back. This entire article is a farce, no word, no mention, of the proven war crimes, the genocide serb soldiers committed all over Bosnia. Rembember, 100000 civilians Bosians were killed by serb miltitary, and that is what has to sink into the serb public percetion; has to be seen. There is no excuse for what the serbian military did anywhere in the Balkans, and before that is not realized, Serbia can and will not become an EU member, and will not be welcomed in the group of free nations. The nationalist cries here are redicules, tastless, and beyond anything acceptable to any peace loving person. Serbia has to face its own violent past, and stop finding excuses, and see itself as the victim of the brutal and inhumane war of the 90. Serbia started it, and had to be bombed, just like Germany in WWII to stop the aggression. Too much bloodshed happened in the name of Serbia, and nobody, except a few brainwashed Russians, believes the serbian story tellers.
It would be good for Serbia if it faces this past, just like it was good for Germany to face its past. Serbia can only gain from such a process, become a better country, and be in with peace with itself again. Reflection on what was done in its name, and realizing that there was no excuse for it. That is the only way to go, nothing else works.

Willi Pfaff

pre 11 godina

read it, and don't tell me it is all western propagande. This is real ----

http://www.bim.ba/en/330/10/35489/?utm_source=Justice+Report&utm_campaign=9c4442e9c3-Justice_Report_EN3_12_2012&utm_medium=email

iko

pre 11 godina

@ Daniel you have not understood the conflict if you reduce it to Bos Moslems wanting their own monocultural society. True you correct the mistaken figures of 100,000 Bosniaks dying but you overlook the intent of the RS architects and the horrific simplicity of what spilling blood unleashes.

RE your country men, you overlook the Iraqi conflict where sanctions alone killed 1.5 million Iraqis, 500,000 under 5. Having said this, US foreign policy is not couched as a distraction from such revelations - they really don’t care. Had they cared then ethnic culling would never have eventuated. It could have been a circus maximus of political grandstanding and huffing and puffing of cultural importance with elections and more huffing and puffing till they found a common ground as most of the electorates in the west sort of find- but would not have been allowed to become a bloodbath.

There are no winners in this outcome- greater Serbia can never use that term without the irony of what is lost for them in the word association of ‘greatness’. The Bos Moslems have become less the tolerant and multicultural aspirants that they proudly claimed. The Bos Croats would not be associated with political opportunism and betrayal. The west would not be seen as the modern equivalent of Pontius Pilate. The UN could have had some sort of legitimacy as ambassadors for humanity. Instead we have 100,000 people and their families who cannot enjoy what we all take for granted.

ivan

pre 11 godina

There is little in western propaganda regarding the Serbs. Please see link below, like the Sarajevo market shooting, it was all staged. So was Srebanica.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_07_11/Clinton-suggested-extermination-of-5000-Muslims-in-Srebrenica/

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

So where is Serbia's arrest warrant for Naser Oric? It seems they have to time to hand them out against their own people for attacking the US embassy, a minor crime, but for a crime against Serbs nothing. The trail of Oric in the ICTY was a blatant farce, one doesn't get 2 years for such crimes then with early release for such henious crimes, that man deserves the longest and most painful death imaginable.

modesty blaise

pre 11 godina

Finally, we might be able to honour ALL the victims who perished in Srebrenica, not only one side of this tragedy whilst the other side is coerced into silence and dismissed as if they don't matter.

Willi Pfaff

pre 11 godina

as the article clearly says, these guys were soldiers, not civilians. It has to be assumed that they were attacking Bosniaks, and the Bosniaks simply fought back. This entire article is a farce, no word, no mention, of the proven war crimes, the genocide serb soldiers committed all over Bosnia. Rembember, 100000 civilians Bosians were killed by serb miltitary, and that is what has to sink into the serb public percetion; has to be seen. There is no excuse for what the serbian military did anywhere in the Balkans, and before that is not realized, Serbia can and will not become an EU member, and will not be welcomed in the group of free nations. The nationalist cries here are redicules, tastless, and beyond anything acceptable to any peace loving person. Serbia has to face its own violent past, and stop finding excuses, and see itself as the victim of the brutal and inhumane war of the 90. Serbia started it, and had to be bombed, just like Germany in WWII to stop the aggression. Too much bloodshed happened in the name of Serbia, and nobody, except a few brainwashed Russians, believes the serbian story tellers.
It would be good for Serbia if it faces this past, just like it was good for Germany to face its past. Serbia can only gain from such a process, become a better country, and be in with peace with itself again. Reflection on what was done in its name, and realizing that there was no excuse for it. That is the only way to go, nothing else works.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

"as the article clearly says, these guys were soldiers, not civilians. It has to be assumed that they were attacking Bosniaks, and the Bosniaks simply fought back. This entire article is a farce, no word, no mention, of the proven war crimes, the genocide serb soldiers committed all over Bosnia. Rembember, 100000 civilians Bosians were killed by serb miltitary...", and that is what has to sink into the serb public percetion; ha
(Willi Pfaff, 13 July 2012 10:08)

100,000 civilians??? Where did you get those numbers? You should read before writing. Look at the official figures. The majority of individuals killed were soldiers. This BS has to stop. There is this story line that everyone is forced to hold. Failure to do so must invoke some horrible consequences because there are so many sheep out there scared of speaking the truth. The truth is very simple. There were lots of deaths in Bosnia but Bosnian Muslims used this war to gain their own country, including inflating figures and pretending that there were concentration camps the likes of what was seen in Germany. Let's not forget some facts. The only disgusting people in the past 100 years have been the Germans killing SIX MILLION JEWS and MILLIONS of Russians and others. The Germans and my American countrymen use all these other incidents to divert attention from their own crimes. Was it necessary I ask to massacre over a quarter of a million Japanese civilians with two atomic bombs? Stop the BS.

Svetislav

pre 11 godina

There he goes again, the revisinostic Mr. Willi Pfaff...

In your eyes it was then also justified, that thousand of german imprisoned Soldiers (POW) died in Sibiria after WW2, because the german soldiers were involded in the killing of inocent civillians?

I just want to know if you see these things equal...

ida

pre 11 godina

"Their families, however, accuse the Identification Center in Tuzla of foul play: that this institution removed some parts of the skeletons in order to hide the nature of the crime committed against the Serb prisoners, Srna news agency is reporting.."

It is important to point out that the ID center in Tuzla doesn't even have official certification. The official certification agency (based in Germany) says that they can not get into the Tuzla Center to assess it and inspect it.

The Tuzla Center is secretive and obviously they won't allow official oversight because they are doing underhanded and deceitful things. And I do believe that the accusations of them tampering with the bodies and taking away bones to hide evidence is true.

I think the Serbian survivors and the RS in Bosnia and Serbia should sue the ID Center in Tuzla for full disclosure and opening it and the results to official international inspectors.

Too many Serbs are just sitting back and being complacent and that keeps truth buried.

Willi Pfaff

pre 11 godina

read it, and don't tell me it is all western propagande. This is real ----

http://www.bim.ba/en/330/10/35489/?utm_source=Justice+Report&utm_campaign=9c4442e9c3-Justice_Report_EN3_12_2012&utm_medium=email

ZMAJ

pre 11 godina

not interested in hearing about serb victims until belgrade and rep srpska acknowledge GENOCIDE in srebrenica did occur.
(milorad, 12 July 2012 19:56)

=======

Losing interest could be early Schizophrenia symptom and this is quite good place to find candidates.. Congratulations!

iko

pre 11 godina

@ Daniel you have not understood the conflict if you reduce it to Bos Moslems wanting their own monocultural society. True you correct the mistaken figures of 100,000 Bosniaks dying but you overlook the intent of the RS architects and the horrific simplicity of what spilling blood unleashes.

RE your country men, you overlook the Iraqi conflict where sanctions alone killed 1.5 million Iraqis, 500,000 under 5. Having said this, US foreign policy is not couched as a distraction from such revelations - they really don’t care. Had they cared then ethnic culling would never have eventuated. It could have been a circus maximus of political grandstanding and huffing and puffing of cultural importance with elections and more huffing and puffing till they found a common ground as most of the electorates in the west sort of find- but would not have been allowed to become a bloodbath.

There are no winners in this outcome- greater Serbia can never use that term without the irony of what is lost for them in the word association of ‘greatness’. The Bos Moslems have become less the tolerant and multicultural aspirants that they proudly claimed. The Bos Croats would not be associated with political opportunism and betrayal. The west would not be seen as the modern equivalent of Pontius Pilate. The UN could have had some sort of legitimacy as ambassadors for humanity. Instead we have 100,000 people and their families who cannot enjoy what we all take for granted.