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Thursday, 12.07.2012.

11:03

Hague: Mladić taken to hospital, trial adjourned

The trial of former Republic of Srpska (RS) Army Commander Ratko Mladić was adjourned on Thursday after the defendant got sick.

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Safet

pre 11 godina

Yes, see it is a matter of opinion also a matter of opinion how a court comes to it's certain conclusion ie why are military personal bought into a civilian equation etc. Your list is not hard to find, do the searching yourself since you bring up an extension of my arguement. There are plenty to choose from, just visit that site to see how they treat and smear prominent scholars and court reporters that don't agree with the blog proprietor's extreme and narrow views.
(Reader, 14 July 2012 12:07)

Well you are the one that is claiming that numerous prominent scholars believe that what happened in Srebrenica was not genocide; so you should provide the proof to back up your argument.

Reader

pre 11 godina

Could you please provide us with the names of these so called scholars that think that what happened in Srebrenica was not genocide? Either way, I am sure that the judges at the ICTY have more legal exprience to determine whether what happened in Srebrenica fits within the definition of "genocide" then some Serbian or Russian scholar that has never set foot inside a courthouse.
(Safet, 13 July 2012 11:59)

Yes, see it is a matter of opinion also a matter of opinion how a court comes to it's certain conclusion ie why are military personal bought into a civilian equation etc. Your list is not hard to find, do the searching yourself since you bring up an extension of my arguement. There are plenty to choose from, just visit that site to see how they treat and smear prominent scholars and court reporters that don't agree with the blog proprietor's extreme and narrow views.

Safet

pre 11 godina

PS let them know Srebrenica is a matter of opinion cause you cannot be labelled a genocide denier if the majority scholarly opinion does not support a courts definition.

Each time I say theres 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
(Reader, 13 July 2012 10:37)

Could you please provide us with the names of these so called scholars that think that what happened in Srebrenica was not genocide? Either way, I am sure that the judges at the ICTY have more legal exprience to determine whether what happened in Srebrenica fits within the definition of "genocide" then some Serbian or Russian scholar that has never set foot inside a courthouse.

InterestedParty

pre 11 godina

sebrenica blogspot is a smear website. See article by David Gibbs:

http://original.antiwar.com/david-gibbs/2012/06/10/welcome-to-the-balkan-propaganda-machine/

Reader

pre 11 godina

And with your comment you show you didnt read the sebrenica blogspot, because they talk about directives, signed by Karadzic and telephone recordings, transcripts etc. used in the trial chaimber to proove his role in the war, and to proove he was in charge and ordered the lower ranks. It was no journalist evidence, so again, you didnt read the blogspot.
(Nikolai, 13 July 2012 01:25)

I've actually had a read on that website a couple of times and each time I am left with the same impression, the same guy calling everyone a genocide denier, denies Bosnian Federation forces committed any crimes against Serbs in a most ridiculously stretched way.

PS let them know Srebrenica is a matter of opinion cause you cannot be labelled a genocide denier if the majority scholarly opinion does not support a courts definition.

Each time I say theres 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

And with your comment you show you didnt read the sebrenica blogspot, because they talk about directives, signed by Karadzic and telephone recordings, transcripts etc. used in the trial chaimber to proove his role in the war, and to proove he was in charge and ordered the lower ranks. It was no journalist evidence, so again, you didnt read the blogspot.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

You call those transcripts no evidence? You call the statements no evidence? It is not evidence delivered by journalists, so i dont know what site you looked at ??

Genocide denier Andy Wilcoxson tried the same spin, so lets clarify some issues publicly. Andy Wilcoxson - who is by all means unqualified even to discuss the issue of genocide, let alone to be the judge - has accused people of "lying" about what Radovan Karadzic said in some of his intercepted conversations. Andy Wilcoxson claimed that Karadzic was talking about Serbian leaders being killed; however, the facts tell a different story. An excerpt from the the Hague Tribunal Exhibit P613.93a [Intercept of a telephone conversation between Radovan Karadzic and Miodrag Davidovic (calling from Niksic), also Luka Karadzic (Radovan's brother)] on 15 October 1991: (for complete transcripts, go to the sebrenica blogspot, 3th google result after you googled for "what did Karadzic do".

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

Yea right Arn from Sweden, you were so high in the line of command that you received personal instructions from the highest in line. Keep dreaming

ricola (echo, echo, echo)

pre 11 godina

nikolai,
classis case of exceptional investigation.
yes, i did, after repeated requests by you, google exactly what you instructed. seems that all of your so called evidence has absolutely zero chain of custody, thus not evidence, and is collected by journalists, again not evidence.
speculation at best.
perhaps you should google: "who died in yellow house". the internet clearly says what happened at the yellow house.

Arn.. Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

Arn from Sweden, you cant say if he gave those orders or not, you were not high enough in line to receive those orders. So you cant possibly say who gave those orders! Search google "what did Karadzic do" and you will find the telephone transcripts of the orders he gave and who he gave the orders to. I think you say i lie because it is hard to accept the war crimes committed by Serbian units. But dont deny war crimes committed or tell me about the line of command, if you didnt even read the documents and transcripts.
(Nikolai, 12 July 2012 19:54)

Comment -

You dont know my position or standing at all,
and I will not reveal it to You or anybody else either.

I Quote -

Arn from Sweden, you cant say if he gave those orders or not, you were not high enough in line to receive those orders.So you cant possibly say who gave those orders!

Comment -

I did not stand UNDER those orders,
I was above them.

By !.

Arn.Sweden.

A New Day

pre 11 godina

the Serbian Way, file a motion--delay, get "sick"--delay, file another motion--delay, go on a hunger strike--delay, get depressed--delay, file a motion--delay, get sick--delay. Blame ICTY for trial lasting too long.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

Arn from Sweden, you cant say if he gave those orders or not, you were not high enough in line to receive those orders. So you cant possibly say who gave those orders! Search google "what did Karadzic do" and you will find the telephone transcripts of the orders he gave and who he gave the orders to. I think you say i lie because it is hard to accept the war crimes committed by Serbian units. But dont deny war crimes committed or tell me about the line of command, if you didnt even read the documents and transcripts.

Diana not the same one as below

pre 11 godina

Mladic will not get justice from this kangaroo court and will
Probably be killed before he has a chance to prove his case

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

Karadzic was giving orders for killings and was not only the face to the world!
(Nikolai, 12 July 2012 12:41)

Comment -
You are lying.

I Volontered on the BosnianSerbian side in the War,
and know perfectly the line of command.

Karadzic had no command over RSs Military,
and no Military say whatsoever.

Even I myself knew about Srebrenica before it took place.

Karadzic is innocent.

Arn.sweden.

Diana

pre 11 godina

It is no surprise because his health was already bad when they arrested him. 2 stroken and his age have made his health weak. I am afraid that when he dies, they will use his death as an excuse, they will say the tribunal killed him to distract from the fact he comitted war crimes!

Partisan

pre 11 godina

So they have decided to ditch the General in their former Nazi interrogation centre.

NATO doctors & the show tribunal Mengele tactics at work.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

Radovan Karadzic's aim was to annihilate the Bosnian Muslims. Some of Karadzic's most incriminating statements were made public, some kept as confidential military directives, while other statements were intercepted by the Bosnian Government during Radovan Karadzic's telephone conversations.

In the transcripts of the phone calls, he is talking about annihilation of the muslim population with Momcilo Mandic for example. Google for "What did Karadzic do" to read the phone transcripts, Karadzic was giving orders for killings and was not only the face to the world!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

former RS President Radovan Karadžić in fact had no operational command of the RS Army

Comment - That is totaly True, Karadzic is totaly innocent to charges.
He was only RSs Face to the World.

Arn.Sweden.

Diana

pre 11 godina

It is no surprise because his health was already bad when they arrested him. 2 stroken and his age have made his health weak. I am afraid that when he dies, they will use his death as an excuse, they will say the tribunal killed him to distract from the fact he comitted war crimes!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

former RS President Radovan Karadžić in fact had no operational command of the RS Army

Comment - That is totaly True, Karadzic is totaly innocent to charges.
He was only RSs Face to the World.

Arn.Sweden.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

Radovan Karadzic's aim was to annihilate the Bosnian Muslims. Some of Karadzic's most incriminating statements were made public, some kept as confidential military directives, while other statements were intercepted by the Bosnian Government during Radovan Karadzic's telephone conversations.

In the transcripts of the phone calls, he is talking about annihilation of the muslim population with Momcilo Mandic for example. Google for "What did Karadzic do" to read the phone transcripts, Karadzic was giving orders for killings and was not only the face to the world!

Partisan

pre 11 godina

So they have decided to ditch the General in their former Nazi interrogation centre.

NATO doctors & the show tribunal Mengele tactics at work.

A New Day

pre 11 godina

the Serbian Way, file a motion--delay, get "sick"--delay, file another motion--delay, go on a hunger strike--delay, get depressed--delay, file a motion--delay, get sick--delay. Blame ICTY for trial lasting too long.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

Arn from Sweden, you cant say if he gave those orders or not, you were not high enough in line to receive those orders. So you cant possibly say who gave those orders! Search google "what did Karadzic do" and you will find the telephone transcripts of the orders he gave and who he gave the orders to. I think you say i lie because it is hard to accept the war crimes committed by Serbian units. But dont deny war crimes committed or tell me about the line of command, if you didnt even read the documents and transcripts.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

Karadzic was giving orders for killings and was not only the face to the world!
(Nikolai, 12 July 2012 12:41)

Comment -
You are lying.

I Volontered on the BosnianSerbian side in the War,
and know perfectly the line of command.

Karadzic had no command over RSs Military,
and no Military say whatsoever.

Even I myself knew about Srebrenica before it took place.

Karadzic is innocent.

Arn.sweden.

Diana not the same one as below

pre 11 godina

Mladic will not get justice from this kangaroo court and will
Probably be killed before he has a chance to prove his case

ricola (echo, echo, echo)

pre 11 godina

nikolai,
classis case of exceptional investigation.
yes, i did, after repeated requests by you, google exactly what you instructed. seems that all of your so called evidence has absolutely zero chain of custody, thus not evidence, and is collected by journalists, again not evidence.
speculation at best.
perhaps you should google: "who died in yellow house". the internet clearly says what happened at the yellow house.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

Yea right Arn from Sweden, you were so high in the line of command that you received personal instructions from the highest in line. Keep dreaming

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

And with your comment you show you didnt read the sebrenica blogspot, because they talk about directives, signed by Karadzic and telephone recordings, transcripts etc. used in the trial chaimber to proove his role in the war, and to proove he was in charge and ordered the lower ranks. It was no journalist evidence, so again, you didnt read the blogspot.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

You call those transcripts no evidence? You call the statements no evidence? It is not evidence delivered by journalists, so i dont know what site you looked at ??

Genocide denier Andy Wilcoxson tried the same spin, so lets clarify some issues publicly. Andy Wilcoxson - who is by all means unqualified even to discuss the issue of genocide, let alone to be the judge - has accused people of "lying" about what Radovan Karadzic said in some of his intercepted conversations. Andy Wilcoxson claimed that Karadzic was talking about Serbian leaders being killed; however, the facts tell a different story. An excerpt from the the Hague Tribunal Exhibit P613.93a [Intercept of a telephone conversation between Radovan Karadzic and Miodrag Davidovic (calling from Niksic), also Luka Karadzic (Radovan's brother)] on 15 October 1991: (for complete transcripts, go to the sebrenica blogspot, 3th google result after you googled for "what did Karadzic do".

Safet

pre 11 godina

PS let them know Srebrenica is a matter of opinion cause you cannot be labelled a genocide denier if the majority scholarly opinion does not support a courts definition.

Each time I say theres 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
(Reader, 13 July 2012 10:37)

Could you please provide us with the names of these so called scholars that think that what happened in Srebrenica was not genocide? Either way, I am sure that the judges at the ICTY have more legal exprience to determine whether what happened in Srebrenica fits within the definition of "genocide" then some Serbian or Russian scholar that has never set foot inside a courthouse.

Arn.. Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

Arn from Sweden, you cant say if he gave those orders or not, you were not high enough in line to receive those orders. So you cant possibly say who gave those orders! Search google "what did Karadzic do" and you will find the telephone transcripts of the orders he gave and who he gave the orders to. I think you say i lie because it is hard to accept the war crimes committed by Serbian units. But dont deny war crimes committed or tell me about the line of command, if you didnt even read the documents and transcripts.
(Nikolai, 12 July 2012 19:54)

Comment -

You dont know my position or standing at all,
and I will not reveal it to You or anybody else either.

I Quote -

Arn from Sweden, you cant say if he gave those orders or not, you were not high enough in line to receive those orders.So you cant possibly say who gave those orders!

Comment -

I did not stand UNDER those orders,
I was above them.

By !.

Arn.Sweden.

InterestedParty

pre 11 godina

sebrenica blogspot is a smear website. See article by David Gibbs:

http://original.antiwar.com/david-gibbs/2012/06/10/welcome-to-the-balkan-propaganda-machine/

Reader

pre 11 godina

And with your comment you show you didnt read the sebrenica blogspot, because they talk about directives, signed by Karadzic and telephone recordings, transcripts etc. used in the trial chaimber to proove his role in the war, and to proove he was in charge and ordered the lower ranks. It was no journalist evidence, so again, you didnt read the blogspot.
(Nikolai, 13 July 2012 01:25)

I've actually had a read on that website a couple of times and each time I am left with the same impression, the same guy calling everyone a genocide denier, denies Bosnian Federation forces committed any crimes against Serbs in a most ridiculously stretched way.

PS let them know Srebrenica is a matter of opinion cause you cannot be labelled a genocide denier if the majority scholarly opinion does not support a courts definition.

Each time I say theres 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

Reader

pre 11 godina

Could you please provide us with the names of these so called scholars that think that what happened in Srebrenica was not genocide? Either way, I am sure that the judges at the ICTY have more legal exprience to determine whether what happened in Srebrenica fits within the definition of "genocide" then some Serbian or Russian scholar that has never set foot inside a courthouse.
(Safet, 13 July 2012 11:59)

Yes, see it is a matter of opinion also a matter of opinion how a court comes to it's certain conclusion ie why are military personal bought into a civilian equation etc. Your list is not hard to find, do the searching yourself since you bring up an extension of my arguement. There are plenty to choose from, just visit that site to see how they treat and smear prominent scholars and court reporters that don't agree with the blog proprietor's extreme and narrow views.

Safet

pre 11 godina

Yes, see it is a matter of opinion also a matter of opinion how a court comes to it's certain conclusion ie why are military personal bought into a civilian equation etc. Your list is not hard to find, do the searching yourself since you bring up an extension of my arguement. There are plenty to choose from, just visit that site to see how they treat and smear prominent scholars and court reporters that don't agree with the blog proprietor's extreme and narrow views.
(Reader, 14 July 2012 12:07)

Well you are the one that is claiming that numerous prominent scholars believe that what happened in Srebrenica was not genocide; so you should provide the proof to back up your argument.

Partisan

pre 11 godina

So they have decided to ditch the General in their former Nazi interrogation centre.

NATO doctors & the show tribunal Mengele tactics at work.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

former RS President Radovan Karadžić in fact had no operational command of the RS Army

Comment - That is totaly True, Karadzic is totaly innocent to charges.
He was only RSs Face to the World.

Arn.Sweden.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

Radovan Karadzic's aim was to annihilate the Bosnian Muslims. Some of Karadzic's most incriminating statements were made public, some kept as confidential military directives, while other statements were intercepted by the Bosnian Government during Radovan Karadzic's telephone conversations.

In the transcripts of the phone calls, he is talking about annihilation of the muslim population with Momcilo Mandic for example. Google for "What did Karadzic do" to read the phone transcripts, Karadzic was giving orders for killings and was not only the face to the world!

Diana not the same one as below

pre 11 godina

Mladic will not get justice from this kangaroo court and will
Probably be killed before he has a chance to prove his case

Diana

pre 11 godina

It is no surprise because his health was already bad when they arrested him. 2 stroken and his age have made his health weak. I am afraid that when he dies, they will use his death as an excuse, they will say the tribunal killed him to distract from the fact he comitted war crimes!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

Karadzic was giving orders for killings and was not only the face to the world!
(Nikolai, 12 July 2012 12:41)

Comment -
You are lying.

I Volontered on the BosnianSerbian side in the War,
and know perfectly the line of command.

Karadzic had no command over RSs Military,
and no Military say whatsoever.

Even I myself knew about Srebrenica before it took place.

Karadzic is innocent.

Arn.sweden.

Arn.. Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

Arn from Sweden, you cant say if he gave those orders or not, you were not high enough in line to receive those orders. So you cant possibly say who gave those orders! Search google "what did Karadzic do" and you will find the telephone transcripts of the orders he gave and who he gave the orders to. I think you say i lie because it is hard to accept the war crimes committed by Serbian units. But dont deny war crimes committed or tell me about the line of command, if you didnt even read the documents and transcripts.
(Nikolai, 12 July 2012 19:54)

Comment -

You dont know my position or standing at all,
and I will not reveal it to You or anybody else either.

I Quote -

Arn from Sweden, you cant say if he gave those orders or not, you were not high enough in line to receive those orders.So you cant possibly say who gave those orders!

Comment -

I did not stand UNDER those orders,
I was above them.

By !.

Arn.Sweden.

ricola (echo, echo, echo)

pre 11 godina

nikolai,
classis case of exceptional investigation.
yes, i did, after repeated requests by you, google exactly what you instructed. seems that all of your so called evidence has absolutely zero chain of custody, thus not evidence, and is collected by journalists, again not evidence.
speculation at best.
perhaps you should google: "who died in yellow house". the internet clearly says what happened at the yellow house.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

Arn from Sweden, you cant say if he gave those orders or not, you were not high enough in line to receive those orders. So you cant possibly say who gave those orders! Search google "what did Karadzic do" and you will find the telephone transcripts of the orders he gave and who he gave the orders to. I think you say i lie because it is hard to accept the war crimes committed by Serbian units. But dont deny war crimes committed or tell me about the line of command, if you didnt even read the documents and transcripts.

A New Day

pre 11 godina

the Serbian Way, file a motion--delay, get "sick"--delay, file another motion--delay, go on a hunger strike--delay, get depressed--delay, file a motion--delay, get sick--delay. Blame ICTY for trial lasting too long.

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

You call those transcripts no evidence? You call the statements no evidence? It is not evidence delivered by journalists, so i dont know what site you looked at ??

Genocide denier Andy Wilcoxson tried the same spin, so lets clarify some issues publicly. Andy Wilcoxson - who is by all means unqualified even to discuss the issue of genocide, let alone to be the judge - has accused people of "lying" about what Radovan Karadzic said in some of his intercepted conversations. Andy Wilcoxson claimed that Karadzic was talking about Serbian leaders being killed; however, the facts tell a different story. An excerpt from the the Hague Tribunal Exhibit P613.93a [Intercept of a telephone conversation between Radovan Karadzic and Miodrag Davidovic (calling from Niksic), also Luka Karadzic (Radovan's brother)] on 15 October 1991: (for complete transcripts, go to the sebrenica blogspot, 3th google result after you googled for "what did Karadzic do".

Reader

pre 11 godina

And with your comment you show you didnt read the sebrenica blogspot, because they talk about directives, signed by Karadzic and telephone recordings, transcripts etc. used in the trial chaimber to proove his role in the war, and to proove he was in charge and ordered the lower ranks. It was no journalist evidence, so again, you didnt read the blogspot.
(Nikolai, 13 July 2012 01:25)

I've actually had a read on that website a couple of times and each time I am left with the same impression, the same guy calling everyone a genocide denier, denies Bosnian Federation forces committed any crimes against Serbs in a most ridiculously stretched way.

PS let them know Srebrenica is a matter of opinion cause you cannot be labelled a genocide denier if the majority scholarly opinion does not support a courts definition.

Each time I say theres 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

InterestedParty

pre 11 godina

sebrenica blogspot is a smear website. See article by David Gibbs:

http://original.antiwar.com/david-gibbs/2012/06/10/welcome-to-the-balkan-propaganda-machine/

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

Yea right Arn from Sweden, you were so high in the line of command that you received personal instructions from the highest in line. Keep dreaming

Nikolai

pre 11 godina

And with your comment you show you didnt read the sebrenica blogspot, because they talk about directives, signed by Karadzic and telephone recordings, transcripts etc. used in the trial chaimber to proove his role in the war, and to proove he was in charge and ordered the lower ranks. It was no journalist evidence, so again, you didnt read the blogspot.

Safet

pre 11 godina

PS let them know Srebrenica is a matter of opinion cause you cannot be labelled a genocide denier if the majority scholarly opinion does not support a courts definition.

Each time I say theres 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
(Reader, 13 July 2012 10:37)

Could you please provide us with the names of these so called scholars that think that what happened in Srebrenica was not genocide? Either way, I am sure that the judges at the ICTY have more legal exprience to determine whether what happened in Srebrenica fits within the definition of "genocide" then some Serbian or Russian scholar that has never set foot inside a courthouse.

Reader

pre 11 godina

Could you please provide us with the names of these so called scholars that think that what happened in Srebrenica was not genocide? Either way, I am sure that the judges at the ICTY have more legal exprience to determine whether what happened in Srebrenica fits within the definition of "genocide" then some Serbian or Russian scholar that has never set foot inside a courthouse.
(Safet, 13 July 2012 11:59)

Yes, see it is a matter of opinion also a matter of opinion how a court comes to it's certain conclusion ie why are military personal bought into a civilian equation etc. Your list is not hard to find, do the searching yourself since you bring up an extension of my arguement. There are plenty to choose from, just visit that site to see how they treat and smear prominent scholars and court reporters that don't agree with the blog proprietor's extreme and narrow views.

Safet

pre 11 godina

Yes, see it is a matter of opinion also a matter of opinion how a court comes to it's certain conclusion ie why are military personal bought into a civilian equation etc. Your list is not hard to find, do the searching yourself since you bring up an extension of my arguement. There are plenty to choose from, just visit that site to see how they treat and smear prominent scholars and court reporters that don't agree with the blog proprietor's extreme and narrow views.
(Reader, 14 July 2012 12:07)

Well you are the one that is claiming that numerous prominent scholars believe that what happened in Srebrenica was not genocide; so you should provide the proof to back up your argument.