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DS leader says “handshake was act of politeness”

Democratic Party of Serbia (DS) leader Boris Tadić says his <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=07&dd=07&nav_id=81148" class="text-link" target= "_blank">handshake with Kosovo Albanian PM Hashim Thaci </a>has no historic importance.

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Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

This Primitive, Evil, and Non-European Matter has to be dealt with, regardless of Serbia’s wrongs, which fade into Insignificance Compared to that of Britain, America, France Germany, and the Albanians in very recent Balkan History, and Ongoing Balkan Current Affairs, but the Main Culprits and Conspirators will not Confess to their Injustices and War Crimes, but we are not considering the past, but the future.

Any group should never become a Country, until they understand the Principles of Justice, and publicly Announces that revenge killing is not for Humans, but it is Animal Culture, and the first matter for any talk with the Albanians.

Albanians have murdered Non Albanians for no reason, and which Innocent or Guilty Albanian or Albanians are Publicly Declaring that they are offering themselves to be killed because of their Non-Human Policy of revenge killing of Innocent People that Albanians have in their primitive, hypocritical, selective, and racist culture, and Albanians need to be taught basic European Standards.

Albanians are never going to like Serbia or Serbs under any circumstances, but Serbia needs to deal with this serious matter, because Serbian Citizens of Albanian Ethnicity need this help that only their Country of Serbia can provide, because Serbia wants them to have a European Future, because Serbia will only join the EU with Kosovo, and Kosovo will only join the EU with the rest of Serbia.

a great idea

pre 11 godina

If the Albanians do not accept, then Serbia should do it, but Serbia should do it anyway, because it will be the Unambiguous and Truthful Version.
(Yet Another J S, 9 July 2012 11:21
I agree 100% a good start would be for Serbia to take out advertisements all over EU and apologize for the atrocities they have committed not only on the Albanians but others. This would be the greatest start to healing the balkans will ever see.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

All Civilized People know that it is Animal Culture to murder Innocent People with the excuse of revenge.

One of the Principles of Justice is that it is better for 10 Guilty People to escape Justice, rather than for one Innocent Person to be punished for what they have not done.

It would be an Act of Politeness for the Albanians to admit to this with Full Page Advertisements in all European Newspapers, and Stating that Albanians Acknowledge this Centuries long Evil which was just a cheap excuse to murder with impunity, and that the Announce this Globally, and Globally Renounce this Evil.

We know that in Africa they have made up the excuse that Albinos are needed for healing, and this excuse is used to murder albinos who have no healing potential.

The real reason that the excuse of healing is used is, because there are black People who hate albinos, because they are not black, even though they belong to the same race of People, and entirely due to racism but by a different definition.

The Albanians should be invited to put these Advertisements in All European Newspapers.

If the Albanians do not accept, then Serbia should do it, but Serbia should do it anyway, because it will be the Unambiguous and Truthful Version.

Dr. Alexander S. Neu

pre 11 godina

Tadics Behaviour is incredible. He shakes the hand with one guy who has so much blood on his hands - serbian blood. Tadic uses every opportunity to demonstrate that he is a politician who does not defends serbian interests rather than western and albanian interests. When will he visit Berlin next time to obtain new instruction?

twindales

pre 11 godina

I think this is a good move forward and lets face it the only way if things are going to be normalised. I read some comments about having Thaci having Serbian blood on his hands. Recently the Queen (Head of UK State)shook the hand of Martin McGuinness (former head of the IRA). This was a very brave thing to do for both sides. The IRA were responsible for murdering one of the Queen's relatives in the late seventies, so the Queen must have felt very strange. Can Serbs and Albanians please get round the table and work out a way forward.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

Would ou shake Hands with the Devil also,
as an act of Politeness,
if that was recuired of You ?.

Surely Serbians can see the similarities.

Surely You are out of Touch with Reality.

Arn.Sweden.

Reader

pre 11 godina

If I were in Dacic, I would order the prosecutors I keep tied by the balls to come out in force tomorrow with horror stories about Thaci, just to hit this rod while its hot. Oh Tadic how could you.

Peter

pre 11 godina

If Tadic were a trustworthy guy, he would have had his "handshake" before elections. But even though he tried to hide his real inclinations (getting rid of Kosovo), he lost them.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Mr. Tadic is honorable man of 21 Century.
Serbian leader understands, only way to progress with good relations with neighbour countries.
Not living ignorant 1389 fantasy of Russian salvation.
(Adem, 8 July 2012 18:23)
============================

This is really funny. How come he is the only honourable man now? What about your pal Cedo?
When Tadic was the president I didn't hear any praise bestowed upon him by you guys. What changed?

There is nothing wrong with trying to make peace with everyone. I don't condemn anyone for it but you only make peace with people who don't partake in extracting organs from your people. You do not shake the hand of the man who butchered your people for spare parts.

If You Cast the First Stone

pre 11 godina

Here is the tragedy of Albania:

Forever to be the vassal of foreign stated

Forever to keep blood feuds as 'culture'

Forever to be deeply intolerant to anyone who isn't albanian

Forever to be between closer to Turkey than Europe

Forever to have the same political dynasties in power

Forever to dream of being something else but never succeeding.

mick

pre 11 godina

@Guapo
The iniciators of 4 wars are you (serbs), not albanians. Albanians didn't fight against Slovenians, Croatians and Bosnian muslims. Four wars because of Milosevic and it's people and what do we have now?!...we have the same persons and same elements as in 90's, in Serbian government and Serbian presidency.

Didi you apologise for genocide in Bosnia and Kosovo?...didi you apologise for war against Croatia and Slovenia>



Guess who liberated Slovenia(1918) of 500+ years Austrian domination!!
Same for the rest of ex Yugoslavia.
And it was the Yugoslav army who tried to get the separatists (slovenians)under control..
Out of consideration for other people that lived in the liberated lands that country was named SHS later YU. (Because Serbs are nice towards other nationalities they dint name the country Serbia... but they should.

So In Yugoslavia they had everything and they start biting their liberators (Serbs)
Slovenians=B***h of the Austrians
Croatians were under the Hungarians
Bosnian Muslims under the Turks but Serbs liberated them.

And tell me what is wrong in protecting the land from separatists?

Serbia should have done different like getting Slavonia and southern Dalmatia and Bosnia the rest for Hungary/Italy/Austria.
Plus giving the Muslims a one way ticket to Turkey.
Unfortunately it didn't go that way, again because Serbs are nice towards others -.-

The ones to apologize and show some respect are Croats/Slovenians/Albanians and Bosnian Muslims!!!

Eagle

pre 11 godina

Eventually, all Serbs will have to shake Thacis hand whether they like it or not. Tadic seems to be ahead of his game when you compare him to rest of the Serbian diplomats. He knows this was coming. Soon or later Serbia will recognize Kosova. Tadic just might be the one to do so. Thaci is not a how the Serbians have portrayed him to be for the last 14 years. He is a human being, he did not extract human organs as Serbs have accused him of doing so. If that was true he would have been Locke up. Serbians like Tadic would of never shook his hand. Too bad for Mr. Marty who tried so hard to prove this case otherwise.

Cheers from Albania.

ItalianoAmericano

pre 11 godina

The only way this situation will be resolved is with civility and dialogue, Thaci and Tadic made a very good first step in that direction. Serbs and their diaspora need to realize that they will never get 100% of Kosovo back, there will be no invasion because we will be there for the next 100 years and by then the Serbs that have yet to be born will not care. You either act civil and go to the negotiating table and maybe get a piece of it back, or we have a stalemate for the next century or two and the Serbs get none of Kosovo back.

The ball is in Serbia's court, your behavior gives Albania all the leverage. Keep on believing your day is coming where you go into Kosovo and take it back, we'll keep rolling our eyes.........

rote

pre 11 godina

Tadic is wrong ! He has been fired because most of the Serbs got tired of prostitution and the double standards. So shaking hands with bandits with Serbian blood on their hands is pure treason and nothing else. Few days ago EU led a special operation to escape meeting Lukashenko at Cup Final in Kiev. Though they have their embassies in Minsk Komorovski and the rest asked Saakashvili to “entertain” Luka just to avoid shaking his hands. Meanwhile nobody doubts Belorussia to be an independent state and Luka to be it’s President. And I guess in the circumstances any Serb should behave with the Snake the same way the EU leaders did.

to Guapo , Adem and the kind

Idiotism is something the brave soldier Schweik has been retired from the Austrian army. Coz the disease is fatal . So please check yourselves.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Guapo, did Albanians ever apologize for being Nazi supporters during WWII, and executing Serbs and other minorities in KiM? Did Croatians do the same for their actions during WWII? Or should we, especially Serbs, just forget about this part of Balkan history? As for apologies during the Balkan wars of the 90's, well, the jury is still out on that. Yes, atrocities were committed in Srebrenica, but how were the Muslim armies, the NATO, and other Western meddling responsible for the Bosnian wars? As for Kosovo, when will the KLA apologize for murdering Kosovo police and Serbian citizens through their terrorist actions? You see, Guapo, it's a matter of perception, and yours is probably not the correct one. BTW, if you all of a sudden like Tadic, you can have him.

Sreten

pre 11 godina

Guapo!
Your comment indicates that you know or understand very little of the conflict that played out in former Yugoslavia.
And then you tend to generalize - the opponents of Serbs were more numerous therefor they are right.

In the same way one could say that Vietnam was obvious aggressor since they were fighting Japanese, then French, then Americans with their allies South Korea, Australia, Philippines, New Zealand, Thailand, Laos...

What a rude people those Vietnamese are...attacking so many other countries.

truthiness

pre 11 godina

Here is the tragedy of Serbia

- it praises failed leaders, murderers and war criminals

- but condemns a man who has just tried to make an effort for peace.

Evidently "blessed are the peacemekers" means differant things to differant people.

JohnBoy

pre 11 godina

Let's see if this last act of service to his american masters will get him a beach home in california, usa. We all see what a traitor he was and still is to his country. The church should condemn his soul.

Guapo

pre 11 godina

Ecoman, how many serbs and how many albanians has lost their lives during Kosovo war?

The iniciators of 4 wars are you (serbs), not albanians. Albanians didn't fight against Slovenians, Croatians and Bosnian muslims. Four wars because of Milosevic and it's people and what do we have now?!...we have the same persons and same elements as in 90's, in Serbian government and Serbian presidency.

Didi you apologise for genocide in Bosnia and Kosovo?...didi you apologise for war against Croatia and Slovenia>

I think the most violent and unfair people in this part of Europe are you. I can't belive it, how is it possible for whole nation to act like football hooligans?!!!

It happend only in Serbia.

Sreten

pre 11 godina

"According to Tadić, he was invited to Croatia Summit by Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović.."

It's political Summit - gathering of the leaders. Why would they invite Tadic who is no longer leader of Serbia?

"...former Serbian president attended the Croatia Summit after the U.S. administration strongly insisted that he come. "

Anyway. Tadic attended as private citizen. As citizen of Serbia he is free to shake hands with anyone he chooses to. He does not represent anyone except himself, and perhaps Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović and U.S. administration who invited him and insisted that he comes.

Adem

pre 11 godina

Mr. Tadic is honorable man of 21 Century.
Serbian leader understands, only way to progress with good relations with neighbour countries.
Not living ignorant 1389 fantasy of Russian salvation.

T

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is a BIG problem which needs fixing. It is a petty Tadic didn't make it as president because he came close to normalising the situation and at least get a dialog going.
It remains to be seen if Nikolic can follow in his tracks. So far Nikolic has been quiet. His stance is changing from moment to moment, his vision not clear.
I have never been a fan of Nikolic because I could never figure out his vision and mission. He talks a lot and makes even more promises. Sometimes he hits the hammer on the nail and makes a valid point. More often than not, however, he is full of populist rhetoric and seems inadequate to deal with real life situations. In an recent TV interview he didn't even know the name of the Kosovo president, Atifete Jahjaga. I always learned to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Surely it would be more than helpful to at least know your opponent's name.
Hopefully he will surprise me and make a move that will solve this issue with Kosovo once and for all. Only then can Serbia move forward.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Mr. Tadic, with all due respect, I would have told the US reps, after their pressuring - another example where they say they will exert no influence on the Serbian government - that maybe one day, after Pristina shows an honest effort in catching and prosecuting Albanian murderers of Serbian citizens and returnees in KiM, will Belgrade consider having a pow wow with Pristina. As for shaking Thaci's hand, once the investigations in the organ-harvesting claims, and war crime trials where he (The Snake) is implicated are over, and he is found innocent, I will gladly shake his hand. Until then, please stay out of Serbian State policy. With a statement like that, I would vote for Tadic for life.

Guapo

pre 11 godina

Ecoman, how many serbs and how many albanians has lost their lives during Kosovo war?

The iniciators of 4 wars are you (serbs), not albanians. Albanians didn't fight against Slovenians, Croatians and Bosnian muslims. Four wars because of Milosevic and it's people and what do we have now?!...we have the same persons and same elements as in 90's, in Serbian government and Serbian presidency.

Didi you apologise for genocide in Bosnia and Kosovo?...didi you apologise for war against Croatia and Slovenia>

I think the most violent and unfair people in this part of Europe are you. I can't belive it, how is it possible for whole nation to act like football hooligans?!!!

It happend only in Serbia.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Mr. Tadic, with all due respect, I would have told the US reps, after their pressuring - another example where they say they will exert no influence on the Serbian government - that maybe one day, after Pristina shows an honest effort in catching and prosecuting Albanian murderers of Serbian citizens and returnees in KiM, will Belgrade consider having a pow wow with Pristina. As for shaking Thaci's hand, once the investigations in the organ-harvesting claims, and war crime trials where he (The Snake) is implicated are over, and he is found innocent, I will gladly shake his hand. Until then, please stay out of Serbian State policy. With a statement like that, I would vote for Tadic for life.

Adem

pre 11 godina

Mr. Tadic is honorable man of 21 Century.
Serbian leader understands, only way to progress with good relations with neighbour countries.
Not living ignorant 1389 fantasy of Russian salvation.

Sreten

pre 11 godina

"According to Tadić, he was invited to Croatia Summit by Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović.."

It's political Summit - gathering of the leaders. Why would they invite Tadic who is no longer leader of Serbia?

"...former Serbian president attended the Croatia Summit after the U.S. administration strongly insisted that he come. "

Anyway. Tadic attended as private citizen. As citizen of Serbia he is free to shake hands with anyone he chooses to. He does not represent anyone except himself, and perhaps Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović and U.S. administration who invited him and insisted that he comes.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Guapo, did Albanians ever apologize for being Nazi supporters during WWII, and executing Serbs and other minorities in KiM? Did Croatians do the same for their actions during WWII? Or should we, especially Serbs, just forget about this part of Balkan history? As for apologies during the Balkan wars of the 90's, well, the jury is still out on that. Yes, atrocities were committed in Srebrenica, but how were the Muslim armies, the NATO, and other Western meddling responsible for the Bosnian wars? As for Kosovo, when will the KLA apologize for murdering Kosovo police and Serbian citizens through their terrorist actions? You see, Guapo, it's a matter of perception, and yours is probably not the correct one. BTW, if you all of a sudden like Tadic, you can have him.

truthiness

pre 11 godina

Here is the tragedy of Serbia

- it praises failed leaders, murderers and war criminals

- but condemns a man who has just tried to make an effort for peace.

Evidently "blessed are the peacemekers" means differant things to differant people.

Eagle

pre 11 godina

Eventually, all Serbs will have to shake Thacis hand whether they like it or not. Tadic seems to be ahead of his game when you compare him to rest of the Serbian diplomats. He knows this was coming. Soon or later Serbia will recognize Kosova. Tadic just might be the one to do so. Thaci is not a how the Serbians have portrayed him to be for the last 14 years. He is a human being, he did not extract human organs as Serbs have accused him of doing so. If that was true he would have been Locke up. Serbians like Tadic would of never shook his hand. Too bad for Mr. Marty who tried so hard to prove this case otherwise.

Cheers from Albania.

mick

pre 11 godina

@Guapo
The iniciators of 4 wars are you (serbs), not albanians. Albanians didn't fight against Slovenians, Croatians and Bosnian muslims. Four wars because of Milosevic and it's people and what do we have now?!...we have the same persons and same elements as in 90's, in Serbian government and Serbian presidency.

Didi you apologise for genocide in Bosnia and Kosovo?...didi you apologise for war against Croatia and Slovenia>



Guess who liberated Slovenia(1918) of 500+ years Austrian domination!!
Same for the rest of ex Yugoslavia.
And it was the Yugoslav army who tried to get the separatists (slovenians)under control..
Out of consideration for other people that lived in the liberated lands that country was named SHS later YU. (Because Serbs are nice towards other nationalities they dint name the country Serbia... but they should.

So In Yugoslavia they had everything and they start biting their liberators (Serbs)
Slovenians=B***h of the Austrians
Croatians were under the Hungarians
Bosnian Muslims under the Turks but Serbs liberated them.

And tell me what is wrong in protecting the land from separatists?

Serbia should have done different like getting Slavonia and southern Dalmatia and Bosnia the rest for Hungary/Italy/Austria.
Plus giving the Muslims a one way ticket to Turkey.
Unfortunately it didn't go that way, again because Serbs are nice towards others -.-

The ones to apologize and show some respect are Croats/Slovenians/Albanians and Bosnian Muslims!!!

JohnBoy

pre 11 godina

Let's see if this last act of service to his american masters will get him a beach home in california, usa. We all see what a traitor he was and still is to his country. The church should condemn his soul.

T

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is a BIG problem which needs fixing. It is a petty Tadic didn't make it as president because he came close to normalising the situation and at least get a dialog going.
It remains to be seen if Nikolic can follow in his tracks. So far Nikolic has been quiet. His stance is changing from moment to moment, his vision not clear.
I have never been a fan of Nikolic because I could never figure out his vision and mission. He talks a lot and makes even more promises. Sometimes he hits the hammer on the nail and makes a valid point. More often than not, however, he is full of populist rhetoric and seems inadequate to deal with real life situations. In an recent TV interview he didn't even know the name of the Kosovo president, Atifete Jahjaga. I always learned to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Surely it would be more than helpful to at least know your opponent's name.
Hopefully he will surprise me and make a move that will solve this issue with Kosovo once and for all. Only then can Serbia move forward.

Sreten

pre 11 godina

Guapo!
Your comment indicates that you know or understand very little of the conflict that played out in former Yugoslavia.
And then you tend to generalize - the opponents of Serbs were more numerous therefor they are right.

In the same way one could say that Vietnam was obvious aggressor since they were fighting Japanese, then French, then Americans with their allies South Korea, Australia, Philippines, New Zealand, Thailand, Laos...

What a rude people those Vietnamese are...attacking so many other countries.

rote

pre 11 godina

Tadic is wrong ! He has been fired because most of the Serbs got tired of prostitution and the double standards. So shaking hands with bandits with Serbian blood on their hands is pure treason and nothing else. Few days ago EU led a special operation to escape meeting Lukashenko at Cup Final in Kiev. Though they have their embassies in Minsk Komorovski and the rest asked Saakashvili to “entertain” Luka just to avoid shaking his hands. Meanwhile nobody doubts Belorussia to be an independent state and Luka to be it’s President. And I guess in the circumstances any Serb should behave with the Snake the same way the EU leaders did.

to Guapo , Adem and the kind

Idiotism is something the brave soldier Schweik has been retired from the Austrian army. Coz the disease is fatal . So please check yourselves.

Dr. Alexander S. Neu

pre 11 godina

Tadics Behaviour is incredible. He shakes the hand with one guy who has so much blood on his hands - serbian blood. Tadic uses every opportunity to demonstrate that he is a politician who does not defends serbian interests rather than western and albanian interests. When will he visit Berlin next time to obtain new instruction?

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Mr. Tadic is honorable man of 21 Century.
Serbian leader understands, only way to progress with good relations with neighbour countries.
Not living ignorant 1389 fantasy of Russian salvation.
(Adem, 8 July 2012 18:23)
============================

This is really funny. How come he is the only honourable man now? What about your pal Cedo?
When Tadic was the president I didn't hear any praise bestowed upon him by you guys. What changed?

There is nothing wrong with trying to make peace with everyone. I don't condemn anyone for it but you only make peace with people who don't partake in extracting organs from your people. You do not shake the hand of the man who butchered your people for spare parts.

ItalianoAmericano

pre 11 godina

The only way this situation will be resolved is with civility and dialogue, Thaci and Tadic made a very good first step in that direction. Serbs and their diaspora need to realize that they will never get 100% of Kosovo back, there will be no invasion because we will be there for the next 100 years and by then the Serbs that have yet to be born will not care. You either act civil and go to the negotiating table and maybe get a piece of it back, or we have a stalemate for the next century or two and the Serbs get none of Kosovo back.

The ball is in Serbia's court, your behavior gives Albania all the leverage. Keep on believing your day is coming where you go into Kosovo and take it back, we'll keep rolling our eyes.........

If You Cast the First Stone

pre 11 godina

Here is the tragedy of Albania:

Forever to be the vassal of foreign stated

Forever to keep blood feuds as 'culture'

Forever to be deeply intolerant to anyone who isn't albanian

Forever to be between closer to Turkey than Europe

Forever to have the same political dynasties in power

Forever to dream of being something else but never succeeding.

Peter

pre 11 godina

If Tadic were a trustworthy guy, he would have had his "handshake" before elections. But even though he tried to hide his real inclinations (getting rid of Kosovo), he lost them.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

All Civilized People know that it is Animal Culture to murder Innocent People with the excuse of revenge.

One of the Principles of Justice is that it is better for 10 Guilty People to escape Justice, rather than for one Innocent Person to be punished for what they have not done.

It would be an Act of Politeness for the Albanians to admit to this with Full Page Advertisements in all European Newspapers, and Stating that Albanians Acknowledge this Centuries long Evil which was just a cheap excuse to murder with impunity, and that the Announce this Globally, and Globally Renounce this Evil.

We know that in Africa they have made up the excuse that Albinos are needed for healing, and this excuse is used to murder albinos who have no healing potential.

The real reason that the excuse of healing is used is, because there are black People who hate albinos, because they are not black, even though they belong to the same race of People, and entirely due to racism but by a different definition.

The Albanians should be invited to put these Advertisements in All European Newspapers.

If the Albanians do not accept, then Serbia should do it, but Serbia should do it anyway, because it will be the Unambiguous and Truthful Version.

Reader

pre 11 godina

If I were in Dacic, I would order the prosecutors I keep tied by the balls to come out in force tomorrow with horror stories about Thaci, just to hit this rod while its hot. Oh Tadic how could you.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

Would ou shake Hands with the Devil also,
as an act of Politeness,
if that was recuired of You ?.

Surely Serbians can see the similarities.

Surely You are out of Touch with Reality.

Arn.Sweden.

twindales

pre 11 godina

I think this is a good move forward and lets face it the only way if things are going to be normalised. I read some comments about having Thaci having Serbian blood on his hands. Recently the Queen (Head of UK State)shook the hand of Martin McGuinness (former head of the IRA). This was a very brave thing to do for both sides. The IRA were responsible for murdering one of the Queen's relatives in the late seventies, so the Queen must have felt very strange. Can Serbs and Albanians please get round the table and work out a way forward.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

This Primitive, Evil, and Non-European Matter has to be dealt with, regardless of Serbia’s wrongs, which fade into Insignificance Compared to that of Britain, America, France Germany, and the Albanians in very recent Balkan History, and Ongoing Balkan Current Affairs, but the Main Culprits and Conspirators will not Confess to their Injustices and War Crimes, but we are not considering the past, but the future.

Any group should never become a Country, until they understand the Principles of Justice, and publicly Announces that revenge killing is not for Humans, but it is Animal Culture, and the first matter for any talk with the Albanians.

Albanians have murdered Non Albanians for no reason, and which Innocent or Guilty Albanian or Albanians are Publicly Declaring that they are offering themselves to be killed because of their Non-Human Policy of revenge killing of Innocent People that Albanians have in their primitive, hypocritical, selective, and racist culture, and Albanians need to be taught basic European Standards.

Albanians are never going to like Serbia or Serbs under any circumstances, but Serbia needs to deal with this serious matter, because Serbian Citizens of Albanian Ethnicity need this help that only their Country of Serbia can provide, because Serbia wants them to have a European Future, because Serbia will only join the EU with Kosovo, and Kosovo will only join the EU with the rest of Serbia.

a great idea

pre 11 godina

If the Albanians do not accept, then Serbia should do it, but Serbia should do it anyway, because it will be the Unambiguous and Truthful Version.
(Yet Another J S, 9 July 2012 11:21
I agree 100% a good start would be for Serbia to take out advertisements all over EU and apologize for the atrocities they have committed not only on the Albanians but others. This would be the greatest start to healing the balkans will ever see.

Guapo

pre 11 godina

Ecoman, how many serbs and how many albanians has lost their lives during Kosovo war?

The iniciators of 4 wars are you (serbs), not albanians. Albanians didn't fight against Slovenians, Croatians and Bosnian muslims. Four wars because of Milosevic and it's people and what do we have now?!...we have the same persons and same elements as in 90's, in Serbian government and Serbian presidency.

Didi you apologise for genocide in Bosnia and Kosovo?...didi you apologise for war against Croatia and Slovenia>

I think the most violent and unfair people in this part of Europe are you. I can't belive it, how is it possible for whole nation to act like football hooligans?!!!

It happend only in Serbia.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Mr. Tadic, with all due respect, I would have told the US reps, after their pressuring - another example where they say they will exert no influence on the Serbian government - that maybe one day, after Pristina shows an honest effort in catching and prosecuting Albanian murderers of Serbian citizens and returnees in KiM, will Belgrade consider having a pow wow with Pristina. As for shaking Thaci's hand, once the investigations in the organ-harvesting claims, and war crime trials where he (The Snake) is implicated are over, and he is found innocent, I will gladly shake his hand. Until then, please stay out of Serbian State policy. With a statement like that, I would vote for Tadic for life.

Adem

pre 11 godina

Mr. Tadic is honorable man of 21 Century.
Serbian leader understands, only way to progress with good relations with neighbour countries.
Not living ignorant 1389 fantasy of Russian salvation.

mick

pre 11 godina

@Guapo
The iniciators of 4 wars are you (serbs), not albanians. Albanians didn't fight against Slovenians, Croatians and Bosnian muslims. Four wars because of Milosevic and it's people and what do we have now?!...we have the same persons and same elements as in 90's, in Serbian government and Serbian presidency.

Didi you apologise for genocide in Bosnia and Kosovo?...didi you apologise for war against Croatia and Slovenia>



Guess who liberated Slovenia(1918) of 500+ years Austrian domination!!
Same for the rest of ex Yugoslavia.
And it was the Yugoslav army who tried to get the separatists (slovenians)under control..
Out of consideration for other people that lived in the liberated lands that country was named SHS later YU. (Because Serbs are nice towards other nationalities they dint name the country Serbia... but they should.

So In Yugoslavia they had everything and they start biting their liberators (Serbs)
Slovenians=B***h of the Austrians
Croatians were under the Hungarians
Bosnian Muslims under the Turks but Serbs liberated them.

And tell me what is wrong in protecting the land from separatists?

Serbia should have done different like getting Slavonia and southern Dalmatia and Bosnia the rest for Hungary/Italy/Austria.
Plus giving the Muslims a one way ticket to Turkey.
Unfortunately it didn't go that way, again because Serbs are nice towards others -.-

The ones to apologize and show some respect are Croats/Slovenians/Albanians and Bosnian Muslims!!!

Eagle

pre 11 godina

Eventually, all Serbs will have to shake Thacis hand whether they like it or not. Tadic seems to be ahead of his game when you compare him to rest of the Serbian diplomats. He knows this was coming. Soon or later Serbia will recognize Kosova. Tadic just might be the one to do so. Thaci is not a how the Serbians have portrayed him to be for the last 14 years. He is a human being, he did not extract human organs as Serbs have accused him of doing so. If that was true he would have been Locke up. Serbians like Tadic would of never shook his hand. Too bad for Mr. Marty who tried so hard to prove this case otherwise.

Cheers from Albania.

Sreten

pre 11 godina

"According to Tadić, he was invited to Croatia Summit by Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović.."

It's political Summit - gathering of the leaders. Why would they invite Tadic who is no longer leader of Serbia?

"...former Serbian president attended the Croatia Summit after the U.S. administration strongly insisted that he come. "

Anyway. Tadic attended as private citizen. As citizen of Serbia he is free to shake hands with anyone he chooses to. He does not represent anyone except himself, and perhaps Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović and U.S. administration who invited him and insisted that he comes.

truthiness

pre 11 godina

Here is the tragedy of Serbia

- it praises failed leaders, murderers and war criminals

- but condemns a man who has just tried to make an effort for peace.

Evidently "blessed are the peacemekers" means differant things to differant people.

rote

pre 11 godina

Tadic is wrong ! He has been fired because most of the Serbs got tired of prostitution and the double standards. So shaking hands with bandits with Serbian blood on their hands is pure treason and nothing else. Few days ago EU led a special operation to escape meeting Lukashenko at Cup Final in Kiev. Though they have their embassies in Minsk Komorovski and the rest asked Saakashvili to “entertain” Luka just to avoid shaking his hands. Meanwhile nobody doubts Belorussia to be an independent state and Luka to be it’s President. And I guess in the circumstances any Serb should behave with the Snake the same way the EU leaders did.

to Guapo , Adem and the kind

Idiotism is something the brave soldier Schweik has been retired from the Austrian army. Coz the disease is fatal . So please check yourselves.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Guapo, did Albanians ever apologize for being Nazi supporters during WWII, and executing Serbs and other minorities in KiM? Did Croatians do the same for their actions during WWII? Or should we, especially Serbs, just forget about this part of Balkan history? As for apologies during the Balkan wars of the 90's, well, the jury is still out on that. Yes, atrocities were committed in Srebrenica, but how were the Muslim armies, the NATO, and other Western meddling responsible for the Bosnian wars? As for Kosovo, when will the KLA apologize for murdering Kosovo police and Serbian citizens through their terrorist actions? You see, Guapo, it's a matter of perception, and yours is probably not the correct one. BTW, if you all of a sudden like Tadic, you can have him.

Sreten

pre 11 godina

Guapo!
Your comment indicates that you know or understand very little of the conflict that played out in former Yugoslavia.
And then you tend to generalize - the opponents of Serbs were more numerous therefor they are right.

In the same way one could say that Vietnam was obvious aggressor since they were fighting Japanese, then French, then Americans with their allies South Korea, Australia, Philippines, New Zealand, Thailand, Laos...

What a rude people those Vietnamese are...attacking so many other countries.

T

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is a BIG problem which needs fixing. It is a petty Tadic didn't make it as president because he came close to normalising the situation and at least get a dialog going.
It remains to be seen if Nikolic can follow in his tracks. So far Nikolic has been quiet. His stance is changing from moment to moment, his vision not clear.
I have never been a fan of Nikolic because I could never figure out his vision and mission. He talks a lot and makes even more promises. Sometimes he hits the hammer on the nail and makes a valid point. More often than not, however, he is full of populist rhetoric and seems inadequate to deal with real life situations. In an recent TV interview he didn't even know the name of the Kosovo president, Atifete Jahjaga. I always learned to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Surely it would be more than helpful to at least know your opponent's name.
Hopefully he will surprise me and make a move that will solve this issue with Kosovo once and for all. Only then can Serbia move forward.

ItalianoAmericano

pre 11 godina

The only way this situation will be resolved is with civility and dialogue, Thaci and Tadic made a very good first step in that direction. Serbs and their diaspora need to realize that they will never get 100% of Kosovo back, there will be no invasion because we will be there for the next 100 years and by then the Serbs that have yet to be born will not care. You either act civil and go to the negotiating table and maybe get a piece of it back, or we have a stalemate for the next century or two and the Serbs get none of Kosovo back.

The ball is in Serbia's court, your behavior gives Albania all the leverage. Keep on believing your day is coming where you go into Kosovo and take it back, we'll keep rolling our eyes.........

JohnBoy

pre 11 godina

Let's see if this last act of service to his american masters will get him a beach home in california, usa. We all see what a traitor he was and still is to his country. The church should condemn his soul.

Dr. Alexander S. Neu

pre 11 godina

Tadics Behaviour is incredible. He shakes the hand with one guy who has so much blood on his hands - serbian blood. Tadic uses every opportunity to demonstrate that he is a politician who does not defends serbian interests rather than western and albanian interests. When will he visit Berlin next time to obtain new instruction?

Reader

pre 11 godina

If I were in Dacic, I would order the prosecutors I keep tied by the balls to come out in force tomorrow with horror stories about Thaci, just to hit this rod while its hot. Oh Tadic how could you.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

All Civilized People know that it is Animal Culture to murder Innocent People with the excuse of revenge.

One of the Principles of Justice is that it is better for 10 Guilty People to escape Justice, rather than for one Innocent Person to be punished for what they have not done.

It would be an Act of Politeness for the Albanians to admit to this with Full Page Advertisements in all European Newspapers, and Stating that Albanians Acknowledge this Centuries long Evil which was just a cheap excuse to murder with impunity, and that the Announce this Globally, and Globally Renounce this Evil.

We know that in Africa they have made up the excuse that Albinos are needed for healing, and this excuse is used to murder albinos who have no healing potential.

The real reason that the excuse of healing is used is, because there are black People who hate albinos, because they are not black, even though they belong to the same race of People, and entirely due to racism but by a different definition.

The Albanians should be invited to put these Advertisements in All European Newspapers.

If the Albanians do not accept, then Serbia should do it, but Serbia should do it anyway, because it will be the Unambiguous and Truthful Version.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

Would ou shake Hands with the Devil also,
as an act of Politeness,
if that was recuired of You ?.

Surely Serbians can see the similarities.

Surely You are out of Touch with Reality.

Arn.Sweden.

twindales

pre 11 godina

I think this is a good move forward and lets face it the only way if things are going to be normalised. I read some comments about having Thaci having Serbian blood on his hands. Recently the Queen (Head of UK State)shook the hand of Martin McGuinness (former head of the IRA). This was a very brave thing to do for both sides. The IRA were responsible for murdering one of the Queen's relatives in the late seventies, so the Queen must have felt very strange. Can Serbs and Albanians please get round the table and work out a way forward.

If You Cast the First Stone

pre 11 godina

Here is the tragedy of Albania:

Forever to be the vassal of foreign stated

Forever to keep blood feuds as 'culture'

Forever to be deeply intolerant to anyone who isn't albanian

Forever to be between closer to Turkey than Europe

Forever to have the same political dynasties in power

Forever to dream of being something else but never succeeding.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Mr. Tadic is honorable man of 21 Century.
Serbian leader understands, only way to progress with good relations with neighbour countries.
Not living ignorant 1389 fantasy of Russian salvation.
(Adem, 8 July 2012 18:23)
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This is really funny. How come he is the only honourable man now? What about your pal Cedo?
When Tadic was the president I didn't hear any praise bestowed upon him by you guys. What changed?

There is nothing wrong with trying to make peace with everyone. I don't condemn anyone for it but you only make peace with people who don't partake in extracting organs from your people. You do not shake the hand of the man who butchered your people for spare parts.

a great idea

pre 11 godina

If the Albanians do not accept, then Serbia should do it, but Serbia should do it anyway, because it will be the Unambiguous and Truthful Version.
(Yet Another J S, 9 July 2012 11:21
I agree 100% a good start would be for Serbia to take out advertisements all over EU and apologize for the atrocities they have committed not only on the Albanians but others. This would be the greatest start to healing the balkans will ever see.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

This Primitive, Evil, and Non-European Matter has to be dealt with, regardless of Serbia’s wrongs, which fade into Insignificance Compared to that of Britain, America, France Germany, and the Albanians in very recent Balkan History, and Ongoing Balkan Current Affairs, but the Main Culprits and Conspirators will not Confess to their Injustices and War Crimes, but we are not considering the past, but the future.

Any group should never become a Country, until they understand the Principles of Justice, and publicly Announces that revenge killing is not for Humans, but it is Animal Culture, and the first matter for any talk with the Albanians.

Albanians have murdered Non Albanians for no reason, and which Innocent or Guilty Albanian or Albanians are Publicly Declaring that they are offering themselves to be killed because of their Non-Human Policy of revenge killing of Innocent People that Albanians have in their primitive, hypocritical, selective, and racist culture, and Albanians need to be taught basic European Standards.

Albanians are never going to like Serbia or Serbs under any circumstances, but Serbia needs to deal with this serious matter, because Serbian Citizens of Albanian Ethnicity need this help that only their Country of Serbia can provide, because Serbia wants them to have a European Future, because Serbia will only join the EU with Kosovo, and Kosovo will only join the EU with the rest of Serbia.

Peter

pre 11 godina

If Tadic were a trustworthy guy, he would have had his "handshake" before elections. But even though he tried to hide his real inclinations (getting rid of Kosovo), he lost them.