U.S. official starts visit to Serbia

GO HOME !!! to put it politely....next time they may just as well send a robot ! nothing to say beside give-up your territory...your interest...you heritage your pride and the security and welfare of your people without anything in return...Count Drakul did nail a turban on the head of an Ottoman envoy back when people had balls....so just go head...show him the way...or go visit Mitrovica and explain your ideas there....

Forgive my boldness ,With all due respect ;Unfortunately with former officials that were once your bosses and are now profiting from "an independent Kosovo" and are under the influence of drug ,human,organ and sympathetic to Jehadist terrorists...the credibility of your office has diminished...its surprising that the propeller heads haven't advised you of this...and changed the tone of the rhetoric

Or maybe i have a better idea for him....go attend some funerals down south...now that would be a trip....

Maybe he can tell us the ordnance NATO dropped on Yugoslavia and what it consisted of. No lies please. Then they can send a medical team to assess whether there has been a spike in paediatric cancers and whether the chromosome of the population has been altered irreversibly. When they find the answer they can apologise to the Serbian people and offer compensation. We will then decide whether to prosecute them for crimes against humanity.

looks like an albanian from kosovo*, maybe he should use his real name

Like George Bush was famous for saying, "We do not deal with terrorists", although he broke his own words when he visited Albania. In any case, Serbia has no problem with the Albanian people in Kosovo, and will negotiate with them, but never, under no circumstance, will Serbia ever sit down and talk with a known terrorist, mafia king pin, and suspected organ-harvestor, Hasim Thaci and members of his cabinet that were members of the KLA. If the USA wants to lay in the same bed with criminal terrorists, like they have in the past, till they gave them up, like Saddam and Bin Laden, they are welcome to the same with Thaci.

Hillaries little flunkies have landed. What dictates will they present to Serbia, what lies will they repeat, what secret agenda will they discuss with the poodles in Serbias political system. American diplomats are not welcome nor wanted in Serbia-this will be the case for centuries because we Serbs will never forget......I pray that one day we will be in the position to recognize a few break away regions within the United States-It will inevitably happen but will we be alive to enjoy it-i hope so. YANKEE GO HOME.

"but added that all their efforts would be aimed at indirect recognition."

A indirect recognition of Kosovo and a direct recognition of Kosovo. What's the difference? Same s***, different package. If Belgrade really intends to unofficially recongize Kosovo they should stop playing around and recognize the damn thing. The more frequent american visits to Serbia could indicate that something is in the making. I just hope the Serbian government is ready to house the 100.000 serbs who will leave Kosovo once they unofficially "recongize" Kosovo.

'Gordon added that the U.S. would not influence the forming of the government'
No that wouldn't be very democratic would it you American Muppet.

'Gordon added that the U.S. would not influence the forming of the government' - Hahahaha, that's all the US does around the world, is influence, or at least try, foreign governments. They do it in Europe, the Middle East, Asia, South and Central America, South Pacific, and even they forget where else. The hypocrisy from these US State Dept. talking heads is nauseating. What you should be doing Mr. Assistance whatever, is put the screws to Pristina in solving the murder if innocent Kosovo returnees. You have allowed Pristina to operate like a criminal, mafia State, yet all you do is put pressure on Serbia.

You know since everyone here paints the US as totally powerless and running scared now. What is that phrase "running away with their tail tucked between their legs". And they are broke, so there is no chance of any aid coming Serbia's way. One has to wonder why the visit of an Assistant Secretary of State would warrant so many news articles.

well I hope his plane comes crashing down on his way home....

"Gordon is coming to Belgrade from Dubrovnik, where he attended the 7th Croatia Summit. In his speech there he said that Serbia was not expected to recognize Kosovo at this point but that it would have to come to terms with the reality of a democratic, sovereign, independent and multi-ethnic Kosovo within its current borders."

Well considering that Kosovo* is neither democratic, sovereign, or independent, and multi-ethnic only because of severe institutional guarantees imposed by Ahtisaari and accepted very reluctantly by Albanians, I'd say this will be another useless trip by an American know-nothing. Maybe he should take a trip to his country's little failing pet project on south and attend the funerals of the murdered Jevtic family. Better yet, maybe he should stop by Kosovo's* northern region and find out why those inat-ridden Serbs are so resistant to choke on the sweet law and order that is Kosovo*.

Finally, not only was the bombing illegal, WHAT they bombed us with was illegal. Uranium tipped bombs, clusters, graphite bombs on the civilian power grids. There is no grey area here. It's black and white. it was against all the major laws, including moral ones. Will these people ever be brought to justice? Probably not, but there is one Judge they will not escape.

Will he come to demand recognition?
Serbia must nothing..

And I sincerely hope Serbia will never recognize kosovo,
what will this guy do about that?

To follow up - if they are our "friends", please tell us what you dropped on us. All the crap included so at
LEast we can prepare for the illnesses that are to follow. At least that, in the name of God.

Like George Bush was famous for saying, "We do not deal with terrorists", although he broke his own words when he visited Albania. In any case, Serbia has no problem with the Albanian people in Kosovo, and will negotiate with them, but never, under no circumstance, will Serbia ever sit down and talk with a known terrorist, mafia king pin, and suspected organ-harvestor, Hasim Thaci and members of his cabinet that were members of the KLA. If the USA wants to lay in the same bed with criminal terrorists, like they have in the past, till they gave them up, like Saddam and Bin Laden, they are welcome to the same with Thaci. (ecoman, 8 July 2012 13:45)

Ecoman cut the crap just for once. Stop acting as some sort of a logical moderate. The act no longer holds water. You have a problem with the Albanian people in general, not with a certain leader. You tell me which terrorist did George Bush meet when he visited Albania.Its time for you to come out of the closet and reveal yourself as the true bigot that you are.Your first sentence says everything that can be said about you.

Would america accept "a democratic, sovereign, independent and multi-ethnic" country "within its current borders"? NO! So how does this ignorant dips**t expect Serbia or any country to do that? This is typical american mental retardation that runs rampant in washington. These are the same idiots who refuse to enforce the laws against illegal immigration along the us-mexico border.

'Gordon added that the U.S. would not influence the forming of the government'

Yea, right ... and you have good swamp land for sale in Flordia for any sucker who would believe your lies.

I hope the Serb officials will get his message. You will have to recognize Kosova, you will have to dismantle the criminal parallel structures in the north and you will have to build better relations with your neighbors. Unless Serbia fulfills those demands, there is no future for Serbia among civilized states.

(ecoman, 8 July 2012 13:45)

When it comes to the American policy of "we do not negotiate with terrorists", Americans decide who is terrorist and who is not. Not Serbs.

100.000 serbs who will leave Kosovo once they unofficially "recongize" Kosovo.
(MikeC, 8 July 2012 12:20)


I am glad by your own admission publicly , you are talking for over 100G K-Serbs south of Ibar, and you are not counting K-Serbs north of Ibar. At least you set the record straight, that ; it is not a handful of K-Serbs south of Ibar.
What is next MikeC,AS FAR AS FLIP-FLOPPING ON THIS SITE ON DAILY BASES????

but there is one Judge they will not escape.
(Wally, 8 July 2012 22:35)
I suppose you are referring to the same judge that all Serb police, paramilitary, and citizens who participated in the ill treatment of the Albanians in Kosovo will also face.
In addition to those who supported them before and after. Justice will be served, if not in this life, in the next.

The meeting with Tadic, a continuation of Dubrovnik!

When it comes to the American policy of "we do not negotiate with terrorists", Americans decide who is terrorist and who is not. Not Serbs.
(ItalianoAmericano, 8 July 2012 21:39)

Yes, and they sometimes changes their opinion who has to be on the list of terrorist, and removed the name T...i from it :)

The good intentions of all, are welcome!

I am glad by your own admission publicly , you are talking for over 100G K-Serbs south of Ibar, and you are not counting K-Serbs north of Ibar. At least you set the record straight, that ; it is not a handful of K-Serbs south of Ibar.
What is next MikeC,AS FAR AS FLIP-FLOPPING ON THIS SITE ON DAILY BASES????
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 July 2012 22:25)

Right on the Money Agim when Serbian Presidential Election where Held I put the number of Displaced Serbs about 10K Mike did not agree with me. 119K Serbs eligible to vote in Last Election In Kosovo Meaning if you take people 11months to 17 years old not eligible to vote that easily brings it to 150 to 160K Serbs present in Kosovo. 50K Police and military + Wives + Children about 80K Serbs = 240K Serbs in kosovo before War.

Game is over Serbs have to live in Kosovo and thats all most do and moving on with their life getting passports etc, some choose to move to beograd after getting scholarships as minority in Kosovo and there are many who go to USA get MBA and move to Beograd this is voluntary migration.

Time to find Solutions how to move together we are neighbors like it or not and sooner we realize better for US, Germany and France have fought bloodier wars and today share many same visions and you dont see people bashing each other, Same for Scandinavians .... time for Balkans hope we could take a page from Scandinavia and change 180deg become peace loving societies and Mike can attest as he lives in Sweden.

Think about it. We could argue forever about what happened in Kosovo since the end of ww2. A truth and reconcialtion commission is the only way to see it in the round.

Yes, and they sometimes changes their opinion who has to be on the list of terrorist, and removed the name T...i from it :)
(J.Oker, 9 July 2012 08:28)
Sometimes intelligence resourses are able to find out that you have been given false information. Up until the mid nineties all intell from Yugoslavia was flowing through Serbia, it is a shame that the term terrorists is reserved for those who oppose a govt and not for govt that impose terror.

I hope the Serb officials will get his message. You will have to recognize Kosova, you will have to dismantle the criminal parallel structures in the north and you will have to build better relations with your neighbors. Unless Serbia fulfills those demands, there is no future for Serbia among civilized states.

Like George Bush was famous for saying, "We do not deal with terrorists", although he broke his own words when he visited Albania. In any case, Serbia has no problem with the Albanian people in Kosovo, and will negotiate with them, but never, under no circumstance, will Serbia ever sit down and talk with a known terrorist, mafia king pin, and suspected organ-harvestor, Hasim Thaci and members of his cabinet that were members of the KLA. If the USA wants to lay in the same bed with criminal terrorists, like they have in the past, till they gave them up, like Saddam and Bin Laden, they are welcome to the same with Thaci. (ecoman, 8 July 2012 13:45)

Ecoman cut the crap just for once. Stop acting as some sort of a logical moderate. The act no longer holds water. You have a problem with the Albanian people in general, not with a certain leader. You tell me which terrorist did George Bush meet when he visited Albania.Its time for you to come out of the closet and reveal yourself as the true bigot that you are.Your first sentence says everything that can be said about you.

Forgive my boldness ,With all due respect ;Unfortunately with former officials that were once your bosses and are now profiting from "an independent Kosovo" and are under the influence of drug ,human,organ and sympathetic to Jehadist terrorists...the credibility of your office has diminished...its surprising that the propeller heads haven't advised you of this...and changed the tone of the rhetoric

GO HOME !!! to put it politely....next time they may just as well send a robot ! nothing to say beside give-up your territory...your interest...you heritage your pride and the security and welfare of your people without anything in return...Count Drakul did nail a turban on the head of an Ottoman envoy back when people had balls....so just go head...show him the way...or go visit Mitrovica and explain your ideas there....

Or maybe i have a better idea for him....go attend some funerals down south...now that would be a trip....

Maybe he can tell us the ordnance NATO dropped on Yugoslavia and what it consisted of. No lies please. Then they can send a medical team to assess whether there has been a spike in paediatric cancers and whether the chromosome of the population has been altered irreversibly. When they find the answer they can apologise to the Serbian people and offer compensation. We will then decide whether to prosecute them for crimes against humanity.

Hillaries little flunkies have landed. What dictates will they present to Serbia, what lies will they repeat, what secret agenda will they discuss with the poodles in Serbias political system. American diplomats are not welcome nor wanted in Serbia-this will be the case for centuries because we Serbs will never forget......I pray that one day we will be in the position to recognize a few break away regions within the United States-It will inevitably happen but will we be alive to enjoy it-i hope so. YANKEE GO HOME.

Like George Bush was famous for saying, "We do not deal with terrorists", although he broke his own words when he visited Albania. In any case, Serbia has no problem with the Albanian people in Kosovo, and will negotiate with them, but never, under no circumstance, will Serbia ever sit down and talk with a known terrorist, mafia king pin, and suspected organ-harvestor, Hasim Thaci and members of his cabinet that were members of the KLA. If the USA wants to lay in the same bed with criminal terrorists, like they have in the past, till they gave them up, like Saddam and Bin Laden, they are welcome to the same with Thaci.

You know since everyone here paints the US as totally powerless and running scared now. What is that phrase "running away with their tail tucked between their legs". And they are broke, so there is no chance of any aid coming Serbia's way. One has to wonder why the visit of an Assistant Secretary of State would warrant so many news articles.

"but added that all their efforts would be aimed at indirect recognition."

A indirect recognition of Kosovo and a direct recognition of Kosovo. What's the difference? Same s***, different package. If Belgrade really intends to unofficially recongize Kosovo they should stop playing around and recognize the damn thing. The more frequent american visits to Serbia could indicate that something is in the making. I just hope the Serbian government is ready to house the 100.000 serbs who will leave Kosovo once they unofficially "recongize" Kosovo.

looks like an albanian from kosovo*, maybe he should use his real name

well I hope his plane comes crashing down on his way home....

'Gordon added that the U.S. would not influence the forming of the government' - Hahahaha, that's all the US does around the world, is influence, or at least try, foreign governments. They do it in Europe, the Middle East, Asia, South and Central America, South Pacific, and even they forget where else. The hypocrisy from these US State Dept. talking heads is nauseating. What you should be doing Mr. Assistance whatever, is put the screws to Pristina in solving the murder if innocent Kosovo returnees. You have allowed Pristina to operate like a criminal, mafia State, yet all you do is put pressure on Serbia.

(ecoman, 8 July 2012 13:45)

When it comes to the American policy of "we do not negotiate with terrorists", Americans decide who is terrorist and who is not. Not Serbs.

100.000 serbs who will leave Kosovo once they unofficially "recongize" Kosovo.
(MikeC, 8 July 2012 12:20)


I am glad by your own admission publicly , you are talking for over 100G K-Serbs south of Ibar, and you are not counting K-Serbs north of Ibar. At least you set the record straight, that ; it is not a handful of K-Serbs south of Ibar.
What is next MikeC,AS FAR AS FLIP-FLOPPING ON THIS SITE ON DAILY BASES????

'Gordon added that the U.S. would not influence the forming of the government'
No that wouldn't be very democratic would it you American Muppet.

"Gordon is coming to Belgrade from Dubrovnik, where he attended the 7th Croatia Summit. In his speech there he said that Serbia was not expected to recognize Kosovo at this point but that it would have to come to terms with the reality of a democratic, sovereign, independent and multi-ethnic Kosovo within its current borders."

Well considering that Kosovo* is neither democratic, sovereign, or independent, and multi-ethnic only because of severe institutional guarantees imposed by Ahtisaari and accepted very reluctantly by Albanians, I'd say this will be another useless trip by an American know-nothing. Maybe he should take a trip to his country's little failing pet project on south and attend the funerals of the murdered Jevtic family. Better yet, maybe he should stop by Kosovo's* northern region and find out why those inat-ridden Serbs are so resistant to choke on the sweet law and order that is Kosovo*.

To follow up - if they are our "friends", please tell us what you dropped on us. All the crap included so at
LEast we can prepare for the illnesses that are to follow. At least that, in the name of God.

Would america accept "a democratic, sovereign, independent and multi-ethnic" country "within its current borders"? NO! So how does this ignorant dips**t expect Serbia or any country to do that? This is typical american mental retardation that runs rampant in washington. These are the same idiots who refuse to enforce the laws against illegal immigration along the us-mexico border.

I am glad by your own admission publicly , you are talking for over 100G K-Serbs south of Ibar, and you are not counting K-Serbs north of Ibar. At least you set the record straight, that ; it is not a handful of K-Serbs south of Ibar.
What is next MikeC,AS FAR AS FLIP-FLOPPING ON THIS SITE ON DAILY BASES????
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 July 2012 22:25)

Right on the Money Agim when Serbian Presidential Election where Held I put the number of Displaced Serbs about 10K Mike did not agree with me. 119K Serbs eligible to vote in Last Election In Kosovo Meaning if you take people 11months to 17 years old not eligible to vote that easily brings it to 150 to 160K Serbs present in Kosovo. 50K Police and military + Wives + Children about 80K Serbs = 240K Serbs in kosovo before War.

Game is over Serbs have to live in Kosovo and thats all most do and moving on with their life getting passports etc, some choose to move to beograd after getting scholarships as minority in Kosovo and there are many who go to USA get MBA and move to Beograd this is voluntary migration.

Time to find Solutions how to move together we are neighbors like it or not and sooner we realize better for US, Germany and France have fought bloodier wars and today share many same visions and you dont see people bashing each other, Same for Scandinavians .... time for Balkans hope we could take a page from Scandinavia and change 180deg become peace loving societies and Mike can attest as he lives in Sweden.

Will he come to demand recognition?
Serbia must nothing..

And I sincerely hope Serbia will never recognize kosovo,
what will this guy do about that?

Finally, not only was the bombing illegal, WHAT they bombed us with was illegal. Uranium tipped bombs, clusters, graphite bombs on the civilian power grids. There is no grey area here. It's black and white. it was against all the major laws, including moral ones. Will these people ever be brought to justice? Probably not, but there is one Judge they will not escape.

'Gordon added that the U.S. would not influence the forming of the government'

Yea, right ... and you have good swamp land for sale in Flordia for any sucker who would believe your lies.

but there is one Judge they will not escape.
(Wally, 8 July 2012 22:35)
I suppose you are referring to the same judge that all Serb police, paramilitary, and citizens who participated in the ill treatment of the Albanians in Kosovo will also face.
In addition to those who supported them before and after. Justice will be served, if not in this life, in the next.

Yes, and they sometimes changes their opinion who has to be on the list of terrorist, and removed the name T...i from it :)
(J.Oker, 9 July 2012 08:28)
Sometimes intelligence resourses are able to find out that you have been given false information. Up until the mid nineties all intell from Yugoslavia was flowing through Serbia, it is a shame that the term terrorists is reserved for those who oppose a govt and not for govt that impose terror.

The good intentions of all, are welcome!

The meeting with Tadic, a continuation of Dubrovnik!

When it comes to the American policy of "we do not negotiate with terrorists", Americans decide who is terrorist and who is not. Not Serbs.
(ItalianoAmericano, 8 July 2012 21:39)

Yes, and they sometimes changes their opinion who has to be on the list of terrorist, and removed the name T...i from it :)

Think about it. We could argue forever about what happened in Kosovo since the end of ww2. A truth and reconcialtion commission is the only way to see it in the round.