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Wednesday, 04.07.2012.

12:27

Team chief: Future talks must focus on north

Belgrade team chief Borislav Stefanović says the status of Kosovo Serbs and the issue of the north need to be a special part of the future political dialogue.

Izvor: Tanjug

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aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I don't see what the problem is here. If Thaci wants to talk to the northern Kosovo Serb representatives, he is then officially recognizing the legitimacy and legality of "parallel institutions", which is perfectly fine with me. What's more, these institutions have successfully defended themselves against repeated aggression from Pristina so they completely deserve to be part of the negotiating team - even more than Belgrade which looks to be selling them out. Let Thaci come begging for an agreement with the four mayors of northern Kosovo! Let's hear him offer all sorts of "generous" plans that give them power and embarass him in the eyes of his fellow Albanian nationalists. He's got nothing to offer but what the US and the EU tell him to offer, and that is complete autonomy, which is what they have right now :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 4 July 2012 18:29)

+1000

lili

pre 11 godina

chut EA,don"t tell serbs that ,as always,they are working for us! the more they 3work3 for mitrovica,the more presheva valley issue will be easy to solve for us with the same standart!and presheva is much more important to us for many reason!So just let them do the job!
To serbs,are you so sure that albanians in presheva valley do not want to join us???you need a military base there to be sure of it? But just not forget that in kosovo to you sended thousand and thousand soldiers...in vain!

icj1

pre 11 godina

USA, the whole Kosovo has disputed status, not only Northern Kosovo.
(aaayyy, 4 July 2012 23:01)

"Disputed status" for whom ? Almost everything has a disputed status for somebody... not sure what your point is ?

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Well, the funniest here is you. Presheva has a lot in common with northern part
of Kosovo. First of all, N. Kosovo is populated by majority of Serbs and Valley is populated by majority of Albanians.

That part can easily become disputed same as N. Kosovo. But the real question is,
how would Belgrade act if Albanians would put barricades, burn border points etc?

You really think Serbs would let that thing go?
(USA, 4 July 2012 16:38)

USA, the whole Kosovo has disputed status, not only Northern Kosovo.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

During WW2 there was a majority serb population in Kosovo. Due to hight birth rates albs are now majority.

(MikeC, 4 July 2012 19:22)


OH WOW, all of sudden is due to high birth rate and not everybody coming during Tito's era from Albania!?
Make up your mind , which is , which?

icj1

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.
(ecoman, 4 July 2012 16:52)

Not sure what the dispute is about. We're told that Albanians in Preshevo are living in paradise as the rest of Serbia so by having Kosovo Serbs have the same rights as Albanians in Serbia means that Kosovo Serbs would be living in paradise. This is not a discussion about dependence or independence.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

USA

One reason albanians don't put up barricades in Presevo is because they don't have to. They are not fighting for their rights and their lives, like serbs are in Kosovo. Besides, why don't you mention norhtern Epirus in south Albania? Perhaps the greeks there would like to set up barricades as well. Kosovo was illegaly stolen from Serbia. It belongs to Serbia just as Presevo does. During WW2 there was a majority serb population in Kosovo. Due to hight birth rates albs are now majority. And you think that fact alons entitles albanians to this terriory? In Malmoe Sweden there will be a muslim majority in 10-15 years. Will that part of Sweden then belong to muslims or the swedes? Just look at albanian history in Kosovo as well as Albania and you will realize that you don't have any history there. You came with the turks. You came to a territory already inhabited by slavic people. You were welcomed, instead of being thankful you expelled the slavs and claim tha land as your own.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

“The job will not be simple because (Kosovo PM) Hashim Thaci and his team in Priština do not want to have a dialogue with Belgrade about, as they say, political issues and they are trying to create a dialogue between Priština and northern Kosovo Serb representatives,” he said and added that Priština would fail in the attempt to do so.

I don't see what the problem is here. If Thaci wants to talk to the northern Kosovo Serb representatives, he is then officially recognizing the legitimacy and legality of "parallel institutions", which is perfectly fine with me. What's more, these institutions have successfully defended themselves against repeated aggression from Pristina so they completely deserve to be part of the negotiating team - even more than Belgrade which looks to be selling them out. Let Thaci come begging for an agreement with the four mayors of northern Kosovo! Let's hear him offer all sorts of "generous" plans that give them power and embarass him in the eyes of his fellow Albanian nationalists. He's got nothing to offer but what the US and the EU tell him to offer, and that is complete autonomy, which is what they have right now :)

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

“They cannot negotiate the status because the status of Kosovo is solved as far as they are concerned and it is an independent state for them

Reality and facts on the ground are mentioned above.




and on the other hand the status of Kosovo is solved for us and it is an inalienable part of the Republic of Serbia,” the team head pointed out.


The wet dream is above.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.

USA

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.
(ecoman, 4 July 2012 16:16)

Well, the funniest here is you. Presheva has a lot in common with northern part
of Kosovo. First of all, N. Kosovo is populated by majority of Serbs and Valley is populated by majority of Albanians.

That part can easily become disputed same as N. Kosovo. But the real question is,
how would Belgrade act if Albanians would put barricades, burn border points etc?

You really think Serbs would let that thing go?

ecoman

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.

pss

pre 11 godina

Jeremic was the center stage when he was FM but with DS not part of the govt, his services will be focused in the UN. I do not think you will see him fighting for success of the ruling SNS and the SPS. As a matter of fact it would be more advantageous for him politically to allow the loss of Kosovo happen on their watch.
His position at the UN does not give him any more advantage. He does get to meet with a lot of people but he will be in a position where others are going to want to advance their home agenda's. When he flew to different countries he would have several hours or even days to discuss Kosovo among other things. Now he will have a few minutes to discuss with 193 countries about concerns they have, not much time to get around to Kosovo, and I doubt he will have the brass to monopolize the GA forum for only Serbia's causes. That would probably create more negative than positive reactions. He does not have anything to offer in a quid pro, quo situation.

Aleks

pre 11 godina

What will happen to the serbs and others south of the Ibar if the albanians get upset, again? They are the real hostages here. Will the west talk about human rights but do nothing, again?

EA

pre 11 godina

What a joke are the Serbian polititians....and this guy. They want a special treatment for Serbs in northern Kosovo...without recognising Kosovo independence first. I will make his job easier. Same rights for Kosovo Serbs to those rights enjoyed by Albanians living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja.

EA

pre 11 godina

What a joke are the Serbian polititians....and this guy. They want a special treatment for Serbs in northern Kosovo...without recognising Kosovo independence first. I will make his job easier. Same rights for Kosovo Serbs to those rights enjoyed by Albanians living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja.

Aleks

pre 11 godina

What will happen to the serbs and others south of the Ibar if the albanians get upset, again? They are the real hostages here. Will the west talk about human rights but do nothing, again?

USA

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.
(ecoman, 4 July 2012 16:16)

Well, the funniest here is you. Presheva has a lot in common with northern part
of Kosovo. First of all, N. Kosovo is populated by majority of Serbs and Valley is populated by majority of Albanians.

That part can easily become disputed same as N. Kosovo. But the real question is,
how would Belgrade act if Albanians would put barricades, burn border points etc?

You really think Serbs would let that thing go?

pss

pre 11 godina

Jeremic was the center stage when he was FM but with DS not part of the govt, his services will be focused in the UN. I do not think you will see him fighting for success of the ruling SNS and the SPS. As a matter of fact it would be more advantageous for him politically to allow the loss of Kosovo happen on their watch.
His position at the UN does not give him any more advantage. He does get to meet with a lot of people but he will be in a position where others are going to want to advance their home agenda's. When he flew to different countries he would have several hours or even days to discuss Kosovo among other things. Now he will have a few minutes to discuss with 193 countries about concerns they have, not much time to get around to Kosovo, and I doubt he will have the brass to monopolize the GA forum for only Serbia's causes. That would probably create more negative than positive reactions. He does not have anything to offer in a quid pro, quo situation.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

During WW2 there was a majority serb population in Kosovo. Due to hight birth rates albs are now majority.

(MikeC, 4 July 2012 19:22)


OH WOW, all of sudden is due to high birth rate and not everybody coming during Tito's era from Albania!?
Make up your mind , which is , which?

ecoman

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

“They cannot negotiate the status because the status of Kosovo is solved as far as they are concerned and it is an independent state for them

Reality and facts on the ground are mentioned above.




and on the other hand the status of Kosovo is solved for us and it is an inalienable part of the Republic of Serbia,” the team head pointed out.


The wet dream is above.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

“The job will not be simple because (Kosovo PM) Hashim Thaci and his team in Priština do not want to have a dialogue with Belgrade about, as they say, political issues and they are trying to create a dialogue between Priština and northern Kosovo Serb representatives,” he said and added that Priština would fail in the attempt to do so.

I don't see what the problem is here. If Thaci wants to talk to the northern Kosovo Serb representatives, he is then officially recognizing the legitimacy and legality of "parallel institutions", which is perfectly fine with me. What's more, these institutions have successfully defended themselves against repeated aggression from Pristina so they completely deserve to be part of the negotiating team - even more than Belgrade which looks to be selling them out. Let Thaci come begging for an agreement with the four mayors of northern Kosovo! Let's hear him offer all sorts of "generous" plans that give them power and embarass him in the eyes of his fellow Albanian nationalists. He's got nothing to offer but what the US and the EU tell him to offer, and that is complete autonomy, which is what they have right now :)

MikeC

pre 11 godina

USA

One reason albanians don't put up barricades in Presevo is because they don't have to. They are not fighting for their rights and their lives, like serbs are in Kosovo. Besides, why don't you mention norhtern Epirus in south Albania? Perhaps the greeks there would like to set up barricades as well. Kosovo was illegaly stolen from Serbia. It belongs to Serbia just as Presevo does. During WW2 there was a majority serb population in Kosovo. Due to hight birth rates albs are now majority. And you think that fact alons entitles albanians to this terriory? In Malmoe Sweden there will be a muslim majority in 10-15 years. Will that part of Sweden then belong to muslims or the swedes? Just look at albanian history in Kosovo as well as Albania and you will realize that you don't have any history there. You came with the turks. You came to a territory already inhabited by slavic people. You were welcomed, instead of being thankful you expelled the slavs and claim tha land as your own.

icj1

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.
(ecoman, 4 July 2012 16:52)

Not sure what the dispute is about. We're told that Albanians in Preshevo are living in paradise as the rest of Serbia so by having Kosovo Serbs have the same rights as Albanians in Serbia means that Kosovo Serbs would be living in paradise. This is not a discussion about dependence or independence.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Well, the funniest here is you. Presheva has a lot in common with northern part
of Kosovo. First of all, N. Kosovo is populated by majority of Serbs and Valley is populated by majority of Albanians.

That part can easily become disputed same as N. Kosovo. But the real question is,
how would Belgrade act if Albanians would put barricades, burn border points etc?

You really think Serbs would let that thing go?
(USA, 4 July 2012 16:38)

USA, the whole Kosovo has disputed status, not only Northern Kosovo.

icj1

pre 11 godina

USA, the whole Kosovo has disputed status, not only Northern Kosovo.
(aaayyy, 4 July 2012 23:01)

"Disputed status" for whom ? Almost everything has a disputed status for somebody... not sure what your point is ?

lili

pre 11 godina

chut EA,don"t tell serbs that ,as always,they are working for us! the more they 3work3 for mitrovica,the more presheva valley issue will be easy to solve for us with the same standart!and presheva is much more important to us for many reason!So just let them do the job!
To serbs,are you so sure that albanians in presheva valley do not want to join us???you need a military base there to be sure of it? But just not forget that in kosovo to you sended thousand and thousand soldiers...in vain!

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I don't see what the problem is here. If Thaci wants to talk to the northern Kosovo Serb representatives, he is then officially recognizing the legitimacy and legality of "parallel institutions", which is perfectly fine with me. What's more, these institutions have successfully defended themselves against repeated aggression from Pristina so they completely deserve to be part of the negotiating team - even more than Belgrade which looks to be selling them out. Let Thaci come begging for an agreement with the four mayors of northern Kosovo! Let's hear him offer all sorts of "generous" plans that give them power and embarass him in the eyes of his fellow Albanian nationalists. He's got nothing to offer but what the US and the EU tell him to offer, and that is complete autonomy, which is what they have right now :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 4 July 2012 18:29)

+1000

EA

pre 11 godina

What a joke are the Serbian polititians....and this guy. They want a special treatment for Serbs in northern Kosovo...without recognising Kosovo independence first. I will make his job easier. Same rights for Kosovo Serbs to those rights enjoyed by Albanians living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja.

Aleks

pre 11 godina

What will happen to the serbs and others south of the Ibar if the albanians get upset, again? They are the real hostages here. Will the west talk about human rights but do nothing, again?

ecoman

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.

USA

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.
(ecoman, 4 July 2012 16:16)

Well, the funniest here is you. Presheva has a lot in common with northern part
of Kosovo. First of all, N. Kosovo is populated by majority of Serbs and Valley is populated by majority of Albanians.

That part can easily become disputed same as N. Kosovo. But the real question is,
how would Belgrade act if Albanians would put barricades, burn border points etc?

You really think Serbs would let that thing go?

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

“They cannot negotiate the status because the status of Kosovo is solved as far as they are concerned and it is an independent state for them

Reality and facts on the ground are mentioned above.




and on the other hand the status of Kosovo is solved for us and it is an inalienable part of the Republic of Serbia,” the team head pointed out.


The wet dream is above.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

USA

One reason albanians don't put up barricades in Presevo is because they don't have to. They are not fighting for their rights and their lives, like serbs are in Kosovo. Besides, why don't you mention norhtern Epirus in south Albania? Perhaps the greeks there would like to set up barricades as well. Kosovo was illegaly stolen from Serbia. It belongs to Serbia just as Presevo does. During WW2 there was a majority serb population in Kosovo. Due to hight birth rates albs are now majority. And you think that fact alons entitles albanians to this terriory? In Malmoe Sweden there will be a muslim majority in 10-15 years. Will that part of Sweden then belong to muslims or the swedes? Just look at albanian history in Kosovo as well as Albania and you will realize that you don't have any history there. You came with the turks. You came to a territory already inhabited by slavic people. You were welcomed, instead of being thankful you expelled the slavs and claim tha land as your own.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Well, the funniest here is you. Presheva has a lot in common with northern part
of Kosovo. First of all, N. Kosovo is populated by majority of Serbs and Valley is populated by majority of Albanians.

That part can easily become disputed same as N. Kosovo. But the real question is,
how would Belgrade act if Albanians would put barricades, burn border points etc?

You really think Serbs would let that thing go?
(USA, 4 July 2012 16:38)

USA, the whole Kosovo has disputed status, not only Northern Kosovo.

pss

pre 11 godina

Jeremic was the center stage when he was FM but with DS not part of the govt, his services will be focused in the UN. I do not think you will see him fighting for success of the ruling SNS and the SPS. As a matter of fact it would be more advantageous for him politically to allow the loss of Kosovo happen on their watch.
His position at the UN does not give him any more advantage. He does get to meet with a lot of people but he will be in a position where others are going to want to advance their home agenda's. When he flew to different countries he would have several hours or even days to discuss Kosovo among other things. Now he will have a few minutes to discuss with 193 countries about concerns they have, not much time to get around to Kosovo, and I doubt he will have the brass to monopolize the GA forum for only Serbia's causes. That would probably create more negative than positive reactions. He does not have anything to offer in a quid pro, quo situation.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

“The job will not be simple because (Kosovo PM) Hashim Thaci and his team in Priština do not want to have a dialogue with Belgrade about, as they say, political issues and they are trying to create a dialogue between Priština and northern Kosovo Serb representatives,” he said and added that Priština would fail in the attempt to do so.

I don't see what the problem is here. If Thaci wants to talk to the northern Kosovo Serb representatives, he is then officially recognizing the legitimacy and legality of "parallel institutions", which is perfectly fine with me. What's more, these institutions have successfully defended themselves against repeated aggression from Pristina so they completely deserve to be part of the negotiating team - even more than Belgrade which looks to be selling them out. Let Thaci come begging for an agreement with the four mayors of northern Kosovo! Let's hear him offer all sorts of "generous" plans that give them power and embarass him in the eyes of his fellow Albanian nationalists. He's got nothing to offer but what the US and the EU tell him to offer, and that is complete autonomy, which is what they have right now :)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I don't see what the problem is here. If Thaci wants to talk to the northern Kosovo Serb representatives, he is then officially recognizing the legitimacy and legality of "parallel institutions", which is perfectly fine with me. What's more, these institutions have successfully defended themselves against repeated aggression from Pristina so they completely deserve to be part of the negotiating team - even more than Belgrade which looks to be selling them out. Let Thaci come begging for an agreement with the four mayors of northern Kosovo! Let's hear him offer all sorts of "generous" plans that give them power and embarass him in the eyes of his fellow Albanian nationalists. He's got nothing to offer but what the US and the EU tell him to offer, and that is complete autonomy, which is what they have right now :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 4 July 2012 18:29)

+1000

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

During WW2 there was a majority serb population in Kosovo. Due to hight birth rates albs are now majority.

(MikeC, 4 July 2012 19:22)


OH WOW, all of sudden is due to high birth rate and not everybody coming during Tito's era from Albania!?
Make up your mind , which is , which?

icj1

pre 11 godina

What do Presevo have to do with Kosovo? That area is not disputed in any way, Kosovo is. Is it simply because Albanians live there? Well, Albanians live in Brooklyn and Chicago too, are you going to ask DC to grant them independence there too? You Albanians are funny.
(ecoman, 4 July 2012 16:52)

Not sure what the dispute is about. We're told that Albanians in Preshevo are living in paradise as the rest of Serbia so by having Kosovo Serbs have the same rights as Albanians in Serbia means that Kosovo Serbs would be living in paradise. This is not a discussion about dependence or independence.

icj1

pre 11 godina

USA, the whole Kosovo has disputed status, not only Northern Kosovo.
(aaayyy, 4 July 2012 23:01)

"Disputed status" for whom ? Almost everything has a disputed status for somebody... not sure what your point is ?

lili

pre 11 godina

chut EA,don"t tell serbs that ,as always,they are working for us! the more they 3work3 for mitrovica,the more presheva valley issue will be easy to solve for us with the same standart!and presheva is much more important to us for many reason!So just let them do the job!
To serbs,are you so sure that albanians in presheva valley do not want to join us???you need a military base there to be sure of it? But just not forget that in kosovo to you sended thousand and thousand soldiers...in vain!