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Tuesday, 03.07.2012.

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Norwegian reporter announces lawsuit against Kosovo police

Norwegian journalist and writer Kristian Kahrs has announced that he would file a lawsuit against the Kosovo police, accusing them of harassment.

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Ari

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kahrs, you entire sorryserbia.com website is frankly disgusting and sad. Its the same as someone making a website sorryrussia.com after what they did to Chechnya. You're saying sorry to a country and society that by large has failed to say sorry itself for all crimes committed in Bosnia (except isolated apology of Srebrenica) and Kosovo, who still support the criminal gangs in North of Kosovo in their daily acts of terror and criminal activity. Not long ago in Belgrade, some savages slit the throat of a young man on a public bus because they suspected him to be Albanian. I wonder what would happen to you if you went to Serbia and wore a shirt saying Kosovo is Albanian, or in Republika Srpska, saying Bosnia is Bosnian?

And in end, as a slap on the face of Albanian families of more than 2000 people who still are counted as missing, of thousands more who have been killed, you have mustered "courage" to say sorry Serbia. Well, Mr. Kahrs, that only shows the shallowness of your mind, and like of any wisdom or compassion. Good job!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Yeah, you're right; that's why all the others run for the door because they were impressed by Serbs' brotherhood :)

You are rude and your comments are only provoking, why you simply do not give real true facts for what you claim? By the way i wonder why again during this Kosovo democracy by Albanians, Serbian couple is killed last Friday...can you answer me this question?Is it democracy if Serbian people are still not save even though world supported this "democracy" of albanians?So ok, you have proofs now who albanians are-trying to clean Kosovo from the rest of Serbs...well well well, if you"clean" area from one representative of other nation, then it is to be expected -erasing all the evidences of their existence, history, cultural monuments, even destroying graves...isn't it just genocidal more than defense of Serbians since all this started...so if continuously one nation has less and less percent of people there, what happens how you explain this fact?How is it possible that those who are presented as aggressors are so strong that only 5% of them is abusing the rest of 95% Albanians? Please only pure true facts-do not claim what you saw on TV, we are aware that the same victims are presented opposite by media who supported Albanians...

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Dear readers, i would like to see this-if there are graves since first settlements were made on Kosovo, i would like to see pure evidences of how old they are, whose graves were there-as only this can prove how old something is. Next-even flags, written documents whatever remained there as proofs of history, can be analyzed, whose belongings it was, how old it is, and this way-who really lived there ever since. Prove Albanians claims that they lived there-even though even Name METOHIA IS GREEK WORD WHICH MEANS LAND OF MONASTERIES-HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT LAND OF MONASTERIES IS ACTUALLY LAND OF MUSLIMS? HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT EVEN RECORDS FROM ROMAN TIMES SHOW EXACTLY HOW OLD WAS ORTHODOX EVIDENCE, AND YOU WITHDRAWN ALL THESE TRUTHS ACCEPTING FAKE FACTS ABOUT NATION WHICH CAME TO KOSOVO RAPIDLY AFTER WWII, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU ACCEPTED CLAIMS OF NATION-WHICH YOU ALL THE REST OF THE WORLD WERE NOT EVEN AWARE IT EXISTS, OVER TRUTHS OF EVEN ANCIENT GREECE WHICH IS REALLY ONE ANCIENT NATION, AND IF YOU WANT, ONE OF MAIN WITNESSES ABOUT EUROPEAN HISTORY...ISN'T IT A SIN, TO REFUSE REAL FACTS ABOUT HISTORY, AND ACCEPT THEORIES WHICH ARE NOT EVEN PROVED? AGAIN-FIND AT LEAST FLAGS AND COMPARE HOW OLD THEY ARE BY CHEMICAL ANALYSIS..ASK ALBANIA TO GIVE YOU THEIR FIRST FLAG EVER-AND SIMPLY ANALYZE IT..I SIMPLY THINK THEY KEPT THE EVIDENCES ABOUT THEIR HISTORY RIGHT? SO LET THEM PROVE IT, IF THEY REALLY EXISTED AS THIS WHAT THEY CLAIM, THEY WILL PROVE IT..

icj1

pre 11 godina

Serbian problem has always been generosity and wanting to live in peace with others.
Serbs did not GIVE you Kosovo. We were willing to share the land and live in peace with you, which you so obviously abused and spat in our face for.
(Peggy, 5 July 2012 11:41)

Yeah, that's what I thought... the innocent and generous Serbs welcomed and gave land to hundreds of thousands of Albanians in the second half of the 19th century in Kosovo, the cradle of Serbdom, because they loved the Albanians so much LOL

icj1

pre 11 godina

Yes, that's right. Who was the biggest supporter of brotherhood and unity in Yugoslavia? Who were the people who said they were Yugoslav more than any other? Yep, Serbs.
(Peggy, 6 July 2012 00:01)

Yeah, you're right; that's why all the others run for the door because they were impressed by Serbs' brotherhood :)

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

This is a joke right? First of all i live in America and if Mexicans came across the border to celebrate "cinco di mayo" in Texas they better not bring Mexican flags or t-shirts saying Texas is Mexican because they will all get arrested including journalist or Royals I don't care who you are and if you resist then you will face force.You simply don't go as a journalist wearing something that will provoke an action against you just so you will have something to write. What a moron.

frenky America is the worst evil of the world..think about who American's are? As i know in america lived Indian , Majan acteka's so beasts from Europe came and put those people into Getos so if it is your Democracy, then thank you, but no thank you!
Your fake government is nest for worst evil, spreaded by secret organizations, sects CIA , think about how many wars you created, started, how many enemies you made all over the world...the worst thing is-politicians never pay for it, it is always common people..you put under controll millions of people, they pay taxes, and they are not even aware that this money goes exactly to next spots where next wars should be created..IS IT YOUR DEMOCRACY??? IS IT YOUR HUMANITY???WHY YOU DO NOT SAY THE TRUTH ABOUT "WHY EVEN TESLA'S INVENTIONS " DID NOT REACH THE WORLD? SERBIAN PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL THAT HE KNEW HOW TO MAKE FREE ENERGY...YOUR INTERESTS TO SELL ENERGY WAS BIGGER THAN TESLA'S HUMAN WILL TO GIVE THAT ENERGY FOR FREE!

Franky NYC

pre 11 godina

Okay lets have him try go to Belgrade or Northern Mitrovica wearing a t-shirt "Kosovo is Albanian" and see how Democratic they are. If he even survives.

Franky NYC

pre 11 godina

This is a joke right? First of all i live in America and if Mexicans came across the border to celebrate "cinco di mayo" in Texas they better not bring Mexican flags or t-shirts saying Texas is Mexican because they will all get arrested including journalist or Royals I don't care who you are and if you resist then you will face force.You simply don't go as a journalist wearing something that will provoke an action against you just so you will have something to write. What a moron.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Peggy

Yeah, you extended the same welcome to Croats and Bosnians right? its never your fault is it?
(Nikolle, 5 July 2012 14:51)
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Yes, that's right. Who was the biggest supporter of brotherhood and unity in Yugoslavia? Who were the people who said they were Yugoslav more than any other? Yep, Serbs.
I know for a fact here in Australia it was only the Serbs who said they were Yugoslav. No Croatian or Macedonians said it and they all played their own national anthem even as far back as late sixties. That is a fact and Milosevic wasn't the president then. Where was he?

So yes, Serbs always forgave and wanted to move on. You can't stand the fact that we are so forgiving because frankly it makes the rest of you look like a**holes.

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Nikolle-one thing you should research is:why Croatians, Bosnians and other people who live on Balkan HAVE THE SAME LANGUAGE
Second: research please where from these people came from, which language they kept, which relligion they had as one MAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH CAME TOGETHER.
Third: if all these people were of the SAME ORIGIN, RELLIGION, INHERITANCE(CULTURAL, HISTORIC, RELLIGION) ASK YOURSELF WHAT HAPPENED THEN-HOW THEY "SEPARATED"
i will give you just some answers-they you get to conclusion yourself:
1. Croatinas Bosnians and Serbs(but not all, as there are others but lets talk only about them as they are your problem) cane as SLAVS FROM RUSSIA-THEY CAME NOT KILLING TRIBES THAT ALREADY LIVED, BUT ASSIMILATING WITH THEM-MIXURE BETWEEN SLAVS AND THOSE TRIBES WHICH ACCEPTED ALL THAT SLAVS BROUGH THERE!
2. As they all are Slavs, when Christianity came from south-remmember christianity came from greece, and Roman, so it was spreading both ways, it was unique till 1054 when Christianity divided into Catholic and Orthodox...So again-Slavs are turned By force of Roman law, they simply made non existing border between Slavs who lived there-even then it was not free will of people to CHOSE BETWEEN TWO OF THEM! SO STILL THE SAME LANGUAGE, BUT NOW SPREADING OF CATHOLICISM OVER WEST PART OF SLAVIC LAND!
3. During Othoman empire Turks reached Bosnia, by force of "Blood taxes" the converted some Slavs from Orthodox into Muslims-check out records and find out how ILIJA BECAME ALIJA

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

So please when commenting someone's rights, investigate whose rights were really taken, and whose rights were protected by selfproclaimened governments there! If someone selfproclaimes something, then other people rights were not even considered...Selfproclamened separations were not choice of Serbian people who lived there...They still wanted to live there where they came in 7th Century-again.As their rights were not protected, they were attacked over and over again-even Croatians' politicians speaches you can find-those who said 1/3 of Serbs to kill, 1/3 of serbs expell, and 1/3 of Serbas convert-the same Ante Pavelic said during WWII, as ustasha leader, so tell me now who is genocidal here Croatians who wanted Serbian properties by force, or Serbian people who again ONLY DEFENDED?

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

So when you change history of one unique Slavic nation through Centuries-by force, it is expected that those "converted ones" accept it, assimilate it, and then turn against those who remained there but kept the main origin.

Through history those who remained as Orthodox-who did not want to accept law of force were always lambs put on Cross for interests of those who were were "converted" and protected exactly by those who made them converted.

This is why genocides happened over Serbian people even during WWII-SEE EVIDENCES ABOUT USTASHA CAMPS(JASENOVAC,JADOVNO,AND MANY MORE)..

Balkan peninsula is one complex thing to study, and if you want to get real history facts then start from the begining, not from the middle!

ONLY SLAVS WHO REMAINED AS ORTHODOX are judged and only because they did not want to convert into something else by force..so if you only protect your origin, inheritance and land, since you settled down, then how you can be agressor? You are only DEFFENDING FROM AGGRESSORS WHO WANT EITHER TO CONVERT YOU, OR TAKE YOUR LAND, OR ETHNICALY CLEAN AREA FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF OTHER THAN THEM!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

About Bosnia: as i said Slavs were converted by turks into Islam...they were under genocidal influence of Nazis from Croatia even during WWII, so many serbians who were killed in Nazis Camps were also taken from Bosnia...Logically as Bosnia saw opportunity to separate,following Croatian steps, they simply did the same..First known crime that shows this is killing of Serbians on serbian wedding-only because Serbs carried serbian flaggs! Supported by Islamic countries, and others who had interests to come closer to Russia, it was obvious that again Serbian rights are no longer welcome there, so again Serbas are presented as criminals and aggressors, eventhough only Orthodox who lived there SINCE 7TH CENTURY wanted to stay there..Again find out about ex officers who want to testimony abot Srebrenica masacre, what they really want to prove is that Mujahedines were brought by CIA, and therorist organizations, they did crimes over muslim civilians there, and those victims are presented as victims of Serbians..Bosnian war was "hole" where money passed through Balkan, and went to allkaida, and when it was discovered and some people wanted to find out who Alkaida is-it was too late-Alkaida already got the money, Alkaida already did therorist attacks...Watch some testimonies from Hag-the one who told this was poisoned there..

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Still don't get how the state of Serbia that was independent in the second half of the 19th century allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization! Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th century to give them their cradle :)
(icj1, 5 July 2012 04:34)
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Serbian problem has always been generosity and wanting to live in peace with others.
Serbs did not GIVE you Kosovo. We were willing to share the land and live in peace with you, which you so obviously abused and spat in our face for.

lili

pre 11 godina

as a good intelligence member,our spy is creating his legend as a pro serb!So nothing wrong here ,we do know why he is so interest at being proserb...
As for vivodan don't worry,he does know too ,as a good spy,that we will never give you the chance to transform it in a confrontation place:we do act when we want,not when you want!
so go on boy, show us your faces every vivodan,it just remind us of how great it is to without you!

icj1

pre 11 godina

Albanians are nomadic tribes descended from Kublai Khan, Huns and Avars; gpysies that roam from mountain to mountain. The Serbian army of WWI can attest to this retreating through Albania under the invitation of the Albanian King but under constant attack and harrassment of Nomadic Albanian hordes living in the mountains who stole, raped and killed starving Serbian civilians. Does that answer your question?
(Jugoslavija, 4 July 2012 21:33)

Of course the Albanians are the worst of the world species and the lowest form of life on Earth. Still don't get how the state of Serbia that was independent in the second half of the 19th century allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization! Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th century to give them their cradle :)

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Here are just some facts every European, and man should read before judging, or deciding if Serbia is right or this fake Albania which was created as the last Country or Nation on European ground!

First of all-history was never based on tribal history.why Kosovo is Serbia.i will tell you only few things.If Albanians lived on Kosovo -WHY ALBANIANS DID NOT FIGHT IT AGAINST TURKS.SECOND IF SERBIAN WON TURKS-WHY THEY WOULD FIGHT THEM IF KOSOVO WAS ALBANIAN.THEY WOULD NEVER FIGHT FOR ALBANIANS.THIRD:HAVE ALBANIANS EVER FIGHT FOR KOSOVO, AGAINST ANYONE WHO WAS FIGHTING THERE(TURKS, AUSTRO-HUNGARIANS, NAZIS).NEVER!! HOW THEN THEY CAN CLAIM THAT KOSOVO IS THEIRS IF YOU NEVER GAVE A DAMN ABOUT IT???

why THEY do not mention that dardanians were defeeted by antient greeks, so according to later history, it was greek theritory..then furthermore:This gave Philip valuable time to gather its forces and to defeat Dardanians still under Bardyllis in the decisive Erigon Valley battle by killing about 7,000 of them eliminating the Dardanian menace for some time.

n 334 BC under the lead of Cleitus the son of Bardyllis, Dardanians in alliance with other Illyrian tribes, of the Taulanti under Glaukias and Autariate, attacked Macedonia which was this time under Alexander the Great. The Dardanians managed to capture some cities but were eventually defeated later by Alexander's forces

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

now we have 3 relligions...main came as orthodox, then invadors brought their religions and forced slavic one origin nation to change this basic relligion...so 3 religions created-the representatives are the one same nation-slavs...

so Croatians were named by Vatikan-they got this name from Vatikan..serbs kept the main original name, they had it since settling down on balkan...

origin of name serbs:

from Proto-Indo-European *ser- (“to protect, watch over”); akin to Latin servare (“to guard, protect”), Old English searu (“weapons, armor”), Lithuanian sárgas (“watchman”), Greek ἥρως (hērōs, “hero”), Avestan haraiti, haurvaiti (“he guards”).[

if you started researching of Serbian history, since moving from Russia till settling down on Balkan peninsula, then how it was developing with kingdoms, kings, even every war was not conquering, but deffence from invadors..you will see why serbian people have this description of Serb-name...

So latter history you know-SERBS FOUGHT TURKS-TURKS INVADED EUROPE-SERBS WON FINALLY, TURKS DID NOT REACH WESTERN COUNTRIES...

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

AFTER WWI-TITO CAME AS PRESIDENT IN YUGOSLAVIA...TITO SUPPORTED POLITICS OF PEACE, YUGOSLAV CITIZENS WERE WELCOME EVERYWHERE, AND ALSO WHOEVER WANTED TO LIVE FREE, WAS WELCOME HERE TOO..ALBANIANS STARTED ESCAPING FROM THEIR PRESIDENT REGIME TO KOSOVO..THEY HAD EVEN BIGGER RIGHTS THAN MANY OTHER MINOR NATIONALITIES THERE..AS THEY SAW OPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR MORE THEIR INSANE SUGGESTION-TO MAKE 7TH REPUBLIC CAME OUT..TITO OF COURSE DECLINED, SO IT ALL ENDED..BUT NOT FOR LONG.,..THEY STARTED ARMING-SECRETLY, AGAIN THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF THEY WERE NOT SUPPORTED BY SOMEONE(THIS HAPPENED IN CROATIA AND BOSNIA TOO, SO I CAN ASSUME, THAT WHEN ILLEGAL MILITARY FORMATION IS FORMED IN SOME COUNTRY-DIFFERENT THAN LEGAL ONE, THEN IT IS FORMED BY SOMEONE'S HELP..)

SO AS YOU SEE SERBIAN PEOPLE IS DEMONIZED AGAIN...YUGOSLAV MILITARY-LEGAL FORMATION OF ONE COUNTRY IS DEMONIZED TOO, BUT IT IS LAW THAT SAYS-LEGAL ARMY OF YUGOSLAV COUNTRY SHOULD PROTECT THE BORDERS OF THAT COUNTRY..SO AGAIN CONCLUSION-WHY CROATIAN ILLEGAL FORCES WHY BOSNIAN ILLEGAL FORCES WERE FORMED SECRETLY? WHY WARS STARTED?WHY SERBIAN PEOPLE DEMONISED? SIMPLE-SERBIAN PEOPLE ARE ORTHODOX-FIRST OF ALL..THEY ONLY KEPT MAIN RELLIGION, CULTURE, INHERITANCE OF FIRST SLAVS WHO CAME TO BALKAN IN 7TH CENTURY...SO IT WAS EASIER TO SUPPORT WESTERN PARTS AGAINST SERBS, IN ORDER TO REACH RUSSIA...

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

NEXT LOGICAL STEP WAS TAKING KOSOVO FROM SERBIAN PEOPLE...

WHAT HAPPENED ON BALKAN?WHY BALKAN IS SO IMPORTANT SPOT FOR EVERYONE?

I WILL TELL YOU.

BEFORE SLAVS CAME-THERE WERE ONLY SMALL TRIBES, WITH DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, "RELIGIONS-PAGAN" ETC...SLAVS CAME-THEY NEVER ACTED AS ENEMIES, THEY SIMPLY ASSIMILATED THOSE TRIBES...SO SLAVS REACHED ALPS...SAME RELIGION(ORTHODOX), SAME LANGUAGE, SAME BLOOD...

WITH SEPARATION OF CHRISTIANITY, WEST PARTS HAD TO "BAPTISE" INTO CATOLIC RELLIGION, AS THE BORDER BETWEEN CATOLICS AND ORTHODOX WAS EXACTLY SEPARATING SLAVS LAND INTO TWO PIECES...SO SLAVS WHO LIVED WEST -ONLY SOME ACCEPTED CATOLICISM, WHILE OTHERS REMAINED AS ORTHODOX(SEPARATION WAS IN 1054)

SO WE HAVE NOW CAtolics slavs and orthodox slavs still the same origin, culture etc..only relligion taken out from some...

lets skip cultural and relligion influence of catolicism for now, lets see what happened with muslims in bosnia...

during turks invasion, they reached bosnia...they started islamizing the rest of orthodox people-by force...names suddenly change from slavic orthodox to islamic-muslims..try to find reccords you will see the truth-how ilija-became alija etc...

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Tribal chiefs Longarus and his son Bato of Dardania took part in the wars[51] against Romans and Macedonians. The Dardanians, in all their history, always[57] had separate domains from the rest of the Illyrians.

During the administrative reforms of Diocletian (244 - 311) and Constantine I (272 – 337), the Diocese of Moesia was created, encompassing most of the central Balkans and the Greek peninsula. After a few years, however, the diocese was split in two, forming the Diocese of Macedonia and the Diocese of Dacia, encompassing the provinces of Dacia Mediterranea, Moesia Inferior, Dardania, Praevalitana and Dacia Ripensis. SO THEIR DARDANIA WAS PART OF GREECE!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

then lies by THEIR dardanian tribes: Dardanians sent a report to Roman Senate, accusing Perseus of Macedon for being again in alliance with Bastarnae against Dardanians, but the Roman investigating commission failed to find support for such accusations

It seems quite probable that the Dardani actually lost independence in 28 BC thus, the final occupation of Dardania by Rome has been connected with the beginnings of Augustus’ rule in 6 AD, when they were finally conquered by Rome. Dardania was conquered by Gaius Scribonius Curio and the Latin language was soon adopted as the main language of the tribe as many other conquered and Romanized.

As with the rest of the Illyrians, today almost nothing survives except for names

The domain of the Dardanian kings was made up of many[52] tribes. The first and most prominent king of the Dardani was Bardyllis[45] who ruled from 385 BC to 358 BC. He was perhaps succeeded by Grabos (358 BC - 356 BC)[53][54] that may have been[55] Bardyllis's son. Little is known about Bardyllis II[56] (4th century BC) Bardyllis's son. Cleitus the Illyrian[56] (4th century BC) was his son.

Jugoslavija

pre 11 godina

Where did they come from dear ? And the great and tolerant state of Serbia that was independent at that time allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization ?1 Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th cerntury to give them their cradle :)
(icj1, 4 July 2012 02:29)

Albanians are nomadic tribes descended from Kublai Khan, Huns and Avars; gpysies that roam from mountain to mountain. The Serbian army of WWI can attest to this retreating through Albania under the invitation of the Albanian King but under constant attack and harrassment of Nomadic Albanian hordes living in the mountains who stole, raped and killed starving Serbian civilians. Does that answer your question?

bganon

pre 11 godina

Come on Zoran if you are going to have a bit of fun, at least try and make it witty to entertain us all (me included!)
If you are only looking to entertain yourself only, you could try looking under masaze in Halo Oglasi.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Lol Freud would have a field day with that comment. Sorry if I've hurt your feelings Zoran. A bit low though, even by your standards.
(bganon, 4 July 2012 16:27)
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LOL! I didn't write that, it was my subconscious... just having a little fun my friend, no hard feelings even though you are a rigid type of character. :)

bganon

pre 11 godina

Kristian called him incompetent one day and bganon went home to cry.
(Zoran, 4 July 2012 14:11)

Lol Freud would have a field day with that comment. Sorry if I've hurt your feelings Zoran. A bit low though, even by your standards.

Peggy whats the nature of your interest regarding Kristian?

so wrong

pre 11 godina

2. It was during and after his service as INTELIGENCE officer in Norwegian KFOR forces that he came to insight that Albanians had just homegenous great Albania in mind where the only good Serb is dead Serb.
(S, 4 July 2012 12:47)

INTELIGENCE officer?

Press officer at Norwegian army, KFOR HQ, Kosovo
http://rs.linkedin.com/in/kristiankahrs

Zoran

pre 11 godina

How have you crossed paths with Kristian?
(Peggy, 4 July 2012 12:43)
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Kristian called him incompetent one day and bganon went home to cry.

EA

pre 11 godina

Nice hiding behind being a Norwegian........I would recommend him not to step in Kosovo provocatively.....He doesn't have to take my advise though....as "Kosovo is Serbia.....)))".

S

pre 11 godina

I have read a many things criticizing Kristian of being pro-serbian.

Well let's just state a couple of facts:

1. Kristian was NOT pro-serbian when he arived to Kosovo in KFOR uniform. He was rather multiethnicly, multiculturaly and pro-democratic oriented and wanted to participate in oginizing such life and society in Kosovo.

2. It was during and after his service as INTELIGENCE officer in Norwegian KFOR forces that he came to insight that Albanians had just homegenous great Albania in mind where the only good Serb is dead Serb. This insight came despite the propaganda about some multhietnic "kosovar" society.

3. Albanians had all the time to influence Kristian to their favour while he has served in Kosovo, yet they failed to do so. Instead Kristian voulunteerly apologised to all Serbian about all misdeeds commited by NATO and KFOR regarding the bombing of 1999 and subsequent ocupation of Kosovo.

So if that means that he is pro-serbian, well so be it, he has all right to do so! My question (to all anti-serbian Albanians) is how come that you express such high level of hatred towards everything Serbian? More so since the name of the area is Kosovo and Metohija. Where Kosovo is short for Kosovo polje (blackird field) and Metohija comes from greek metoh meaning church estate.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

No I don't consider reading about somebody as crossing paths, yes I have crossed paths with Kristian. Now that we have cleared up that vital point, you can resume getting things wrong in other debates!
(bganon, 4 July 2012 11:26)
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You have peaked my interest here. How have you crossed paths with Kristian? Have you met somewhere and had a conversation about something? Have you been in the same room only?
You really haven't said very much at all but I am sure I am not the only one who wants to know to what extent your involved has been with Kristian.

hey Nikolle

pre 11 godina

if that's how things are in Europe, then we don't want Europe! "

no doubt in my mind that he never heard such a thing. oh and and Zoran yes, KFOR is indeed turning against the Albanians there, you have my favorite poster exKFOR here to tell you that
(Nikolle, 3 July 2012 21:02)

Jihadists from KiM desperately want to suck up to European money as you are not able to produce any by yourselves, except for criminal of course... believe me , majority of my battalion did not like Albanians at all - though they met only Muslims in the North - but as I have told you many times, nobody cared either - for them it was just fun trip. make money, to have some thrill during March riots - and their aim was to get away and close the border in order not to let any of your kinsmen to Europe. It is like all those UN workers in Arabic Muslim countries - nice extravagant time to spend there, but - not to live there an not to let those people with their backwarded and racist ideology to their home-countries. Just accept the reality, who would like to have sth like that http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/nicolai-sennels-report-from-the-therapy-room-why-are-muslims-more-violent-and-criminal.html or http://www.google.com/search?q=kosovo+muslims&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Swb0T_-LLa3a4QTAzKTEBg&ved=0CEsQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=760 in Europe - nobody but jihadists and brainwashed lefties...lol

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Navi

Serbs on the other hand are accommodating, understanding and willing to listen and compromise as the Croats, Bosnians and K. Albanians can so well attest

Zoran

pre 11 godina

This article must be a joke. The entire serb celebrations held inside Kosovo are a provacation, aimed to cause a confrontation with the Kosovars and their government. If anybody from Kosovo would want to display sybols of their government and state inside Serbia, all hell would break loose. The whole thing is nothing but a doubble standart.
(Bill, 4 July 2012 10:10)
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Get a life Bill. So anything Serbian in KiM is a provocation to Albanians? Yes, it's not surprising because they are one of the most intolerant people in the world.

However, we Serbians tolerate them without too many issues. They even have their own Albanians flag day. Check -> http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=11&dd=28&nav_id=71181 and eat your words.

bganon

pre 11 godina

Zoran I know you have a bad habit of getting things wrong, so I'll correct you again.

No I don't consider reading about somebody as crossing paths, yes I have crossed paths with Kristian. Now that we have cleared up that vital point, you can resume getting things wrong in other debates!

Bill

pre 11 godina

This article must be a joke. The entire serb celebrations held inside Kosovo are a provacation, aimed to cause a confrontation with the Kosovars and their government. If anybody from Kosovo would want to display sybols of their government and state inside Serbia, all hell would break loose. The whole thing is nothing but a doubble standart.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Well our paths have crossed, indeed Kristian has blogged at B92 in the past. I think it would be fair (imo) to say that he is slightly pro Serbian these days...
(bganon, 3 July 2012 20:08)
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So you consider reading about someone as crossing paths? You are a funny person. You must have crossed paths with some very prominent people just by reading about them.

Bile & Venom

pre 11 godina

Do you see now Peggy that I am right about b92 letting all these nasty comments so that the world can see how they really are? Comparing him to Brevik in that anonymous and slanderous way is a hoot!

Commenter's should be warned that making such slanderous comments have legal consequences if the victim launches legal action against such anonymous people. Both Twitter and Facebook have comply with such requests. The days of b92 publishing such stuff without nixing it are numbered...

icj1

pre 11 godina

Unconfirmed reports of women and children forced to attend a religious service in their underwear. If true, heads deserve to roll.
(Niall O'Doherty, 3 July 2012 18:03)

absolutely correct... the key word is the "if" though :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

Although I support Kosovo's independence (because as it stands now, it seems to me as the best solution possible), the truth is, that majority of the Albanians came to Kosovo as late as the second half of the 19th century. They ethnically cleansed the Serbian population from 1876 to 1911 and following that, they became the majority there.
(Marco Italia, 3 July 2012 17:54)

Where did they come from dear ? And the great and tolerant state of Serbia that was independent at that time allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization ?1 Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th cerntury to give them their cradle :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

Does anyone still think that Kosovo one day will be a state by its own ??
(Staff, 3 July 2012 22:06)

I don't think so and frankly I don't think Kosovo cares. All they want in Kosovo is to be independent from Serbia, as they are. I don't think they care if they are dependent on Europe, US or Zimbabwe

Agon

pre 11 godina

"saw the news when the so called police officers took an ordinary flag and threw it on the ground. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ

- 0:50 Police officer: I don't need your flag we are independent! Please maaaaan.

LOL

Navi

pre 11 godina

The truth must hurt since the Albanians are so angry here. I agree with Kahrs 100%. Albanians are rude, obnoxious, and insulting if you don't agree with their beliefs.

Staff

pre 11 godina

This is extremely bad for the Albanians. If you dont know why, dont bother to answer or reply. Its not only the Norweigian journalist who was angry. Two american, one Danish and one from Portugal that was on the scene were furious and reported it to the world.
The power of freedom of expression is one of the main priciples in the world. I, like the EU in Brussels and all world media and governments, saw the news when the so called police officers took an ordinary flag and threw it on the ground. This is only done in third world countries, mafia states and....a bit of unresolved land that is in a total mess.
On the other hand, this suits Serbia very well.

ICO is closing down due to lack of funds and the Quint countries do not want anything more to do with Kosovo. This because many of them are tired to pour money in to a black hole that is bottom-less. US wants to keep their base there although it will be slimmed with personell 2013-2014.

Does anyone still think that Kosovo one day will be a state by its own ??

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

" if that's how things are in Europe, then we don't want Europe! "

no doubt in my mind that he never heard such a thing. oh and and Zoran yes, KFOR is indeed turning against the Albanians there, you have my favorite poster exKFOR here to tell you that

bganon

pre 11 godina

Well our paths have crossed, indeed Kristian has blogged at B92 in the past. I think it would be fair (imo) to say that he is slightly pro Serbian these days, but its also true to say that many from countries with high living standards produce individuals with contrary views who desire to contradict 'official' policy. 'Official' policy being official western policy.

So I suppose he wanted to see the view from the ground to record his own experiences and this was the result. It does pose questions relating to embedding oneself and the boundaries between that and participation but in no way should Kahrs have been harassed.

And yes as somebody has pointed out he does work as a business advisor, but obviously continues his work as a journalist. There is nothing wrong with that in this case there can certainly be no question of a conflict of interest.

Berk.

pre 11 godina

Ever since it is clear that this "Norwegian" is Kristian Kahrs, everything made sence. Kahrs is a fanatic and not even close a journalist. He promotes Serbian fascism and very similar to the other Serb-loving Norwegian Anders Breivik. Here some picture with him and Obraz:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150218123460907.347152.705220906&type=3

Just throw that Breivik out of Kosovo and lifetime ban. Problem solved.

Cheers!

exKFOR

pre 11 godina

i have always said that jihadists in KiM belong to Turkey or Arab tribes, not to Judeo-Christian Europe: there are enough proof to that: beware - "atheist" jihadists in action http://www.google.com/search?q=kosovo+muslim&hl=en&prmd=imvnsu&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9CzzT5zQDcih4gTco7jUCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CE4Q_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=760

Niall O'Doherty

pre 11 godina

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour by the Keystone Cops of Pristina. There was absolutely no grounds for these people to be harassed and arrested on the basis of exercising their democratic right of freedom of speech and expression. Unconfirmed reports of women and children forced to attend a religious service in their underwear. If true, heads deserve to roll.

Bridge

pre 11 godina

Go to Norway and teach your people how to build a legal system. Breivik ( Friend of Serbia ) killed more than 70 people and he will serve 21 years only and you talking about KPS. Shut the hell up instead.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

LOL the police officer said "we dont want Europe" well that's fine because in reality you were never European to begin with, just had the support of neo-liberal elitists in Europe.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Simpatiku, the t-shirt and flag was ih his bag, not on his body. Why was he harassed for that? "
(Ecoman, 3 July 2012 16:42)

Of course! This guy definitely doesn't know about Kosovo habits and customs! Maybe next time he will carry drugs in his bag, then he can travel in Kosovo without being bothered by the police :)

blue and gold

pre 11 godina

hahaha, this guy is a joke...
from his own linkedin page: "However, now I have more or less left journalism, and I am now working as an independent business adviser."
http://rs.linkedin.com/in/kristiankahrs
next time, don't lie about your profession.

failed wannabe journalist

pre 11 godina

Hi B92!
Have you just by the way skipped the small detail that he has called Kosovo a "monkey state"? Great journalism (as always):
Možda nije bilo najpametnije to što sam im rekao da su majmunska država... Smatram da imaju izbor, ili će da poštuju ljudska prava i slobodu reči, ili, ako neće, onda mogu da budu i zemlja majmuna - kaže za "Vesti" Kaš

Steve B.

pre 11 godina

This guys isn't the only person from the West that knows who Kosovo really belongs to. MANY soldiers from NATO know and have spoken out saying the wrong side was bombed.

Keep being yourselves Albos. You just make it easier on us.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"This is all too laughable. You sue the police sir as if anybody cares about you. Next useless story to read!!"
(Captain America, 3 July 2012 15:48)

Indeed! As if anybody would care about police abusing their power down there! Though he didn't meet a custom officer at the checkpoints, he must have known that he left civilized Europe and entered into Kosovo! Hahaha..

Marco Italia

pre 11 godina

Although I support Kosovo's independence (because as it stands now, it seems to me as the best solution possible), the truth is, that majority of the Albanians came to Kosovo as late as the second half of the 19th century. They ethnically cleansed the Serbian population from 1876 to 1911 and following that, they became the majority there.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Eagle
Captain America
Miri

If it was the other way around and this norwegian was misstreated by serbian police you would be all over the place. One sign that albanians lack a democratic way of thinking is the fact that you always dissmiss any critisism against your police, politicians and people in general. Your ego is a little to big for your own good.

Sergio

pre 11 godina

If Serbs stay at their homes there will NEVER EVER be any problems in Kosova. It's that they come to our land and burn it and do all other barbarian things they are good in doing thus one needs to kick them out.
(ben,
Hey Al-Ben,
1: Some serbs are staying at their home and they are burned and killed in you multietnical paradise
2: Kosova were and is still under international law Serbia, so your UCK police has no any right to be there
3: This guy fought once for you and he realized who are you and what are your values, every single human has the right of free speech and if you think the kosova is exception, then you have no place among civilized people
4: the ones that should be kicked out are you, there were not even a smell of albanias on that land until Tito made that mistake letting you in. You should put him a monument and thank Serbia for saving your grand parents from starving in your flourishing paradise.

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

This joke of a police squad has no clue what its doing. It lets pass all the crimes these albanian criminals do.. and then harasses Serbian citizens. Its a shame.. and personally next time someone needs to put them in their place. These police officers are nothing more than criminals themselves, part of an illegal govt on Serbian territory. Im glad to see this reported.. and good point, albanian flags all over Kosovo.. but Serbian not allowed? how multiethnic. What a damn joke. Can't wait til this pot boils over. to put these weak forces back in their place.

Commentator

pre 11 godina

I knew that heard the name Kristian Kahrs before and now I know from where. This is the radical Pro-Serbian Norwegian who was an Ex-KFOR and who does not miss an opportunity to put himself in the center of attention advocating his Pro-Serbian stance. I'm not surprised to see him continuing his efforts but those claims. Maybe he read Anders Breiviks writings..

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Simpatiku, the t-shirt and flag was ih his bag, not on his body. Why was he harassed for that? And why did the KPS goon say "this is Albania"? What is wrong with Kosovo Albanians? What are these people afraid of, to act in such cowardly ways? In any case, I am glad that there is international press condemning the work of Pristina's KPS. The world is actually aware already, hence why most countries do recognize this US sponsored hell hole, but it is good for Pristina to get the black eye it deserves. Albanians want an ethnically pure Albanian Kosovo, that is picture clear, and more press needs to come forward to say this.

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

I have not even started to read the comments to this story yet, but I can hear the comments from loyal Albanians on this site already. There will be multiple excuses about the inaccuracy of this story, but they will never once, not once, admit that maybe the KPS played a bit rough. That is the difference between Serbs and Albanians - Serbs will often daily, ridicule their leadership, whereas Albanians, they would rather die than say a condescending word about the Pristina leadership. Why is that? Is it something cultural?

Kenny

pre 11 godina

Where is the part where he called them monkeys and said they are not doing their job? Those are his words.
This guy is a freelancer who has no chance in getting a real job with a professional newspaper. He spends his time on Twitter and serbian blogs, asking people to help pay the fine and a lawyer so he can sue them.
He's a nobody looking for his 15 minutes of fame and will forever be a nobody.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"I told them I was an international reporter and that they had no right to do that, to which one of them snapped at me: this is Albania, this is not Serbia.".

"I said it was not my fault that they had no customs in the north. I also said I was sorry that there were such policemen in the KPS who do not respect freedom of speech and human rights, to which they responded - if that's how things are in Europe, then we don't want Europe!"

Let's congratulate these KPS officers: For being honest and speaking their minds and not lying in the public like the Kosovo politicians about a 'multi ethnic Kosovo' and being 'young Europeans'

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"This is all too laughable. You sue the police sir as if anybody cares about you. Next useless story to read!!"
(Captain America, 3 July 2012 15:48)

You are right, unfortunately! In Kosovo it doesn't make any sense! You cannot compare KPS (former KLA 'freedom fighters') with a professional police force in a normal state which is following the laws and has some standards on how to treat citizens and visitors. KPS is more like police in some African country who things they are the big guys and can act like they want to.

Simpatiku

pre 11 godina

Reporter wearing T-shirt and hat with Serbian flag? And he still wants to sue the Kosovo Police. For what? Because he couldn't give them Serbian crap? This is the joke of the year.

ben

pre 11 godina

"one of them snapped at me: this is Albania, this is not Serbia"

WELL DONE!!!!

Exactly - Kosova is ALBANIAN and will always be Albanian.

And if you have IQ of 10 not to realize that you CAME in Kosova WITH other Serbs FROM Serbia then it's not KPS problem-= they just tried to educate you the basics: where you came from and where have you arrived.

If Serbs stay at their homes there will NEVER EVER be any problems in Kosova. It's that they come to our land and burn it and do all other barbarian things they are good in doing thus one needs to kick them out.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Kahrs concluded by saying that he previously served with KFOR in Kosovo where he arrived "from the democratic Norway to help create democracy and defend human rights".
--
There are a lot of ex-KFORs who have seen and want to speak the truth!

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Kahrs concluded by saying that he previously served with KFOR in Kosovo where he arrived "from the democratic Norway to help create democracy and defend human rights".
--
There are a lot of ex-KFORs who have seen and want to speak the truth!

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

I have not even started to read the comments to this story yet, but I can hear the comments from loyal Albanians on this site already. There will be multiple excuses about the inaccuracy of this story, but they will never once, not once, admit that maybe the KPS played a bit rough. That is the difference between Serbs and Albanians - Serbs will often daily, ridicule their leadership, whereas Albanians, they would rather die than say a condescending word about the Pristina leadership. Why is that? Is it something cultural?

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Simpatiku, the t-shirt and flag was ih his bag, not on his body. Why was he harassed for that? And why did the KPS goon say "this is Albania"? What is wrong with Kosovo Albanians? What are these people afraid of, to act in such cowardly ways? In any case, I am glad that there is international press condemning the work of Pristina's KPS. The world is actually aware already, hence why most countries do recognize this US sponsored hell hole, but it is good for Pristina to get the black eye it deserves. Albanians want an ethnically pure Albanian Kosovo, that is picture clear, and more press needs to come forward to say this.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"I told them I was an international reporter and that they had no right to do that, to which one of them snapped at me: this is Albania, this is not Serbia.".

"I said it was not my fault that they had no customs in the north. I also said I was sorry that there were such policemen in the KPS who do not respect freedom of speech and human rights, to which they responded - if that's how things are in Europe, then we don't want Europe!"

Let's congratulate these KPS officers: For being honest and speaking their minds and not lying in the public like the Kosovo politicians about a 'multi ethnic Kosovo' and being 'young Europeans'

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"This is all too laughable. You sue the police sir as if anybody cares about you. Next useless story to read!!"
(Captain America, 3 July 2012 15:48)

You are right, unfortunately! In Kosovo it doesn't make any sense! You cannot compare KPS (former KLA 'freedom fighters') with a professional police force in a normal state which is following the laws and has some standards on how to treat citizens and visitors. KPS is more like police in some African country who things they are the big guys and can act like they want to.

Kenny

pre 11 godina

Where is the part where he called them monkeys and said they are not doing their job? Those are his words.
This guy is a freelancer who has no chance in getting a real job with a professional newspaper. He spends his time on Twitter and serbian blogs, asking people to help pay the fine and a lawyer so he can sue them.
He's a nobody looking for his 15 minutes of fame and will forever be a nobody.

Steve B.

pre 11 godina

This guys isn't the only person from the West that knows who Kosovo really belongs to. MANY soldiers from NATO know and have spoken out saying the wrong side was bombed.

Keep being yourselves Albos. You just make it easier on us.

Simpatiku

pre 11 godina

Reporter wearing T-shirt and hat with Serbian flag? And he still wants to sue the Kosovo Police. For what? Because he couldn't give them Serbian crap? This is the joke of the year.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

LOL the police officer said "we dont want Europe" well that's fine because in reality you were never European to begin with, just had the support of neo-liberal elitists in Europe.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 11 godina

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour by the Keystone Cops of Pristina. There was absolutely no grounds for these people to be harassed and arrested on the basis of exercising their democratic right of freedom of speech and expression. Unconfirmed reports of women and children forced to attend a religious service in their underwear. If true, heads deserve to roll.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Eagle
Captain America
Miri

If it was the other way around and this norwegian was misstreated by serbian police you would be all over the place. One sign that albanians lack a democratic way of thinking is the fact that you always dissmiss any critisism against your police, politicians and people in general. Your ego is a little to big for your own good.

Sergio

pre 11 godina

If Serbs stay at their homes there will NEVER EVER be any problems in Kosova. It's that they come to our land and burn it and do all other barbarian things they are good in doing thus one needs to kick them out.
(ben,
Hey Al-Ben,
1: Some serbs are staying at their home and they are burned and killed in you multietnical paradise
2: Kosova were and is still under international law Serbia, so your UCK police has no any right to be there
3: This guy fought once for you and he realized who are you and what are your values, every single human has the right of free speech and if you think the kosova is exception, then you have no place among civilized people
4: the ones that should be kicked out are you, there were not even a smell of albanias on that land until Tito made that mistake letting you in. You should put him a monument and thank Serbia for saving your grand parents from starving in your flourishing paradise.

exKFOR

pre 11 godina

i have always said that jihadists in KiM belong to Turkey or Arab tribes, not to Judeo-Christian Europe: there are enough proof to that: beware - "atheist" jihadists in action http://www.google.com/search?q=kosovo+muslim&hl=en&prmd=imvnsu&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9CzzT5zQDcih4gTco7jUCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CE4Q_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=760

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

This joke of a police squad has no clue what its doing. It lets pass all the crimes these albanian criminals do.. and then harasses Serbian citizens. Its a shame.. and personally next time someone needs to put them in their place. These police officers are nothing more than criminals themselves, part of an illegal govt on Serbian territory. Im glad to see this reported.. and good point, albanian flags all over Kosovo.. but Serbian not allowed? how multiethnic. What a damn joke. Can't wait til this pot boils over. to put these weak forces back in their place.

Commentator

pre 11 godina

I knew that heard the name Kristian Kahrs before and now I know from where. This is the radical Pro-Serbian Norwegian who was an Ex-KFOR and who does not miss an opportunity to put himself in the center of attention advocating his Pro-Serbian stance. I'm not surprised to see him continuing his efforts but those claims. Maybe he read Anders Breiviks writings..

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Simpatiku, the t-shirt and flag was ih his bag, not on his body. Why was he harassed for that? "
(Ecoman, 3 July 2012 16:42)

Of course! This guy definitely doesn't know about Kosovo habits and customs! Maybe next time he will carry drugs in his bag, then he can travel in Kosovo without being bothered by the police :)

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"This is all too laughable. You sue the police sir as if anybody cares about you. Next useless story to read!!"
(Captain America, 3 July 2012 15:48)

Indeed! As if anybody would care about police abusing their power down there! Though he didn't meet a custom officer at the checkpoints, he must have known that he left civilized Europe and entered into Kosovo! Hahaha..

Staff

pre 11 godina

This is extremely bad for the Albanians. If you dont know why, dont bother to answer or reply. Its not only the Norweigian journalist who was angry. Two american, one Danish and one from Portugal that was on the scene were furious and reported it to the world.
The power of freedom of expression is one of the main priciples in the world. I, like the EU in Brussels and all world media and governments, saw the news when the so called police officers took an ordinary flag and threw it on the ground. This is only done in third world countries, mafia states and....a bit of unresolved land that is in a total mess.
On the other hand, this suits Serbia very well.

ICO is closing down due to lack of funds and the Quint countries do not want anything more to do with Kosovo. This because many of them are tired to pour money in to a black hole that is bottom-less. US wants to keep their base there although it will be slimmed with personell 2013-2014.

Does anyone still think that Kosovo one day will be a state by its own ??

ben

pre 11 godina

"one of them snapped at me: this is Albania, this is not Serbia"

WELL DONE!!!!

Exactly - Kosova is ALBANIAN and will always be Albanian.

And if you have IQ of 10 not to realize that you CAME in Kosova WITH other Serbs FROM Serbia then it's not KPS problem-= they just tried to educate you the basics: where you came from and where have you arrived.

If Serbs stay at their homes there will NEVER EVER be any problems in Kosova. It's that they come to our land and burn it and do all other barbarian things they are good in doing thus one needs to kick them out.

Berk.

pre 11 godina

Ever since it is clear that this "Norwegian" is Kristian Kahrs, everything made sence. Kahrs is a fanatic and not even close a journalist. He promotes Serbian fascism and very similar to the other Serb-loving Norwegian Anders Breivik. Here some picture with him and Obraz:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150218123460907.347152.705220906&type=3

Just throw that Breivik out of Kosovo and lifetime ban. Problem solved.

Cheers!

Bridge

pre 11 godina

Go to Norway and teach your people how to build a legal system. Breivik ( Friend of Serbia ) killed more than 70 people and he will serve 21 years only and you talking about KPS. Shut the hell up instead.

failed wannabe journalist

pre 11 godina

Hi B92!
Have you just by the way skipped the small detail that he has called Kosovo a "monkey state"? Great journalism (as always):
Možda nije bilo najpametnije to što sam im rekao da su majmunska država... Smatram da imaju izbor, ili će da poštuju ljudska prava i slobodu reči, ili, ako neće, onda mogu da budu i zemlja majmuna - kaže za "Vesti" Kaš

Marco Italia

pre 11 godina

Although I support Kosovo's independence (because as it stands now, it seems to me as the best solution possible), the truth is, that majority of the Albanians came to Kosovo as late as the second half of the 19th century. They ethnically cleansed the Serbian population from 1876 to 1911 and following that, they became the majority there.

bganon

pre 11 godina

Well our paths have crossed, indeed Kristian has blogged at B92 in the past. I think it would be fair (imo) to say that he is slightly pro Serbian these days, but its also true to say that many from countries with high living standards produce individuals with contrary views who desire to contradict 'official' policy. 'Official' policy being official western policy.

So I suppose he wanted to see the view from the ground to record his own experiences and this was the result. It does pose questions relating to embedding oneself and the boundaries between that and participation but in no way should Kahrs have been harassed.

And yes as somebody has pointed out he does work as a business advisor, but obviously continues his work as a journalist. There is nothing wrong with that in this case there can certainly be no question of a conflict of interest.

S

pre 11 godina

I have read a many things criticizing Kristian of being pro-serbian.

Well let's just state a couple of facts:

1. Kristian was NOT pro-serbian when he arived to Kosovo in KFOR uniform. He was rather multiethnicly, multiculturaly and pro-democratic oriented and wanted to participate in oginizing such life and society in Kosovo.

2. It was during and after his service as INTELIGENCE officer in Norwegian KFOR forces that he came to insight that Albanians had just homegenous great Albania in mind where the only good Serb is dead Serb. This insight came despite the propaganda about some multhietnic "kosovar" society.

3. Albanians had all the time to influence Kristian to their favour while he has served in Kosovo, yet they failed to do so. Instead Kristian voulunteerly apologised to all Serbian about all misdeeds commited by NATO and KFOR regarding the bombing of 1999 and subsequent ocupation of Kosovo.

So if that means that he is pro-serbian, well so be it, he has all right to do so! My question (to all anti-serbian Albanians) is how come that you express such high level of hatred towards everything Serbian? More so since the name of the area is Kosovo and Metohija. Where Kosovo is short for Kosovo polje (blackird field) and Metohija comes from greek metoh meaning church estate.

blue and gold

pre 11 godina

hahaha, this guy is a joke...
from his own linkedin page: "However, now I have more or less left journalism, and I am now working as an independent business adviser."
http://rs.linkedin.com/in/kristiankahrs
next time, don't lie about your profession.

Navi

pre 11 godina

The truth must hurt since the Albanians are so angry here. I agree with Kahrs 100%. Albanians are rude, obnoxious, and insulting if you don't agree with their beliefs.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

This article must be a joke. The entire serb celebrations held inside Kosovo are a provacation, aimed to cause a confrontation with the Kosovars and their government. If anybody from Kosovo would want to display sybols of their government and state inside Serbia, all hell would break loose. The whole thing is nothing but a doubble standart.
(Bill, 4 July 2012 10:10)
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Get a life Bill. So anything Serbian in KiM is a provocation to Albanians? Yes, it's not surprising because they are one of the most intolerant people in the world.

However, we Serbians tolerate them without too many issues. They even have their own Albanians flag day. Check -> http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=11&dd=28&nav_id=71181 and eat your words.

Jugoslavija

pre 11 godina

Where did they come from dear ? And the great and tolerant state of Serbia that was independent at that time allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization ?1 Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th cerntury to give them their cradle :)
(icj1, 4 July 2012 02:29)

Albanians are nomadic tribes descended from Kublai Khan, Huns and Avars; gpysies that roam from mountain to mountain. The Serbian army of WWI can attest to this retreating through Albania under the invitation of the Albanian King but under constant attack and harrassment of Nomadic Albanian hordes living in the mountains who stole, raped and killed starving Serbian civilians. Does that answer your question?

Agon

pre 11 godina

"saw the news when the so called police officers took an ordinary flag and threw it on the ground. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ

- 0:50 Police officer: I don't need your flag we are independent! Please maaaaan.

LOL

icj1

pre 11 godina

Although I support Kosovo's independence (because as it stands now, it seems to me as the best solution possible), the truth is, that majority of the Albanians came to Kosovo as late as the second half of the 19th century. They ethnically cleansed the Serbian population from 1876 to 1911 and following that, they became the majority there.
(Marco Italia, 3 July 2012 17:54)

Where did they come from dear ? And the great and tolerant state of Serbia that was independent at that time allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization ?1 Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th cerntury to give them their cradle :)

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Navi

Serbs on the other hand are accommodating, understanding and willing to listen and compromise as the Croats, Bosnians and K. Albanians can so well attest

bganon

pre 11 godina

Zoran I know you have a bad habit of getting things wrong, so I'll correct you again.

No I don't consider reading about somebody as crossing paths, yes I have crossed paths with Kristian. Now that we have cleared up that vital point, you can resume getting things wrong in other debates!

so wrong

pre 11 godina

2. It was during and after his service as INTELIGENCE officer in Norwegian KFOR forces that he came to insight that Albanians had just homegenous great Albania in mind where the only good Serb is dead Serb.
(S, 4 July 2012 12:47)

INTELIGENCE officer?

Press officer at Norwegian army, KFOR HQ, Kosovo
http://rs.linkedin.com/in/kristiankahrs

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

" if that's how things are in Europe, then we don't want Europe! "

no doubt in my mind that he never heard such a thing. oh and and Zoran yes, KFOR is indeed turning against the Albanians there, you have my favorite poster exKFOR here to tell you that

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Well our paths have crossed, indeed Kristian has blogged at B92 in the past. I think it would be fair (imo) to say that he is slightly pro Serbian these days...
(bganon, 3 July 2012 20:08)
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So you consider reading about someone as crossing paths? You are a funny person. You must have crossed paths with some very prominent people just by reading about them.

Bill

pre 11 godina

This article must be a joke. The entire serb celebrations held inside Kosovo are a provacation, aimed to cause a confrontation with the Kosovars and their government. If anybody from Kosovo would want to display sybols of their government and state inside Serbia, all hell would break loose. The whole thing is nothing but a doubble standart.

hey Nikolle

pre 11 godina

if that's how things are in Europe, then we don't want Europe! "

no doubt in my mind that he never heard such a thing. oh and and Zoran yes, KFOR is indeed turning against the Albanians there, you have my favorite poster exKFOR here to tell you that
(Nikolle, 3 July 2012 21:02)

Jihadists from KiM desperately want to suck up to European money as you are not able to produce any by yourselves, except for criminal of course... believe me , majority of my battalion did not like Albanians at all - though they met only Muslims in the North - but as I have told you many times, nobody cared either - for them it was just fun trip. make money, to have some thrill during March riots - and their aim was to get away and close the border in order not to let any of your kinsmen to Europe. It is like all those UN workers in Arabic Muslim countries - nice extravagant time to spend there, but - not to live there an not to let those people with their backwarded and racist ideology to their home-countries. Just accept the reality, who would like to have sth like that http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/nicolai-sennels-report-from-the-therapy-room-why-are-muslims-more-violent-and-criminal.html or http://www.google.com/search?q=kosovo+muslims&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Swb0T_-LLa3a4QTAzKTEBg&ved=0CEsQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=760 in Europe - nobody but jihadists and brainwashed lefties...lol

icj1

pre 11 godina

Does anyone still think that Kosovo one day will be a state by its own ??
(Staff, 3 July 2012 22:06)

I don't think so and frankly I don't think Kosovo cares. All they want in Kosovo is to be independent from Serbia, as they are. I don't think they care if they are dependent on Europe, US or Zimbabwe

Zoran

pre 11 godina

How have you crossed paths with Kristian?
(Peggy, 4 July 2012 12:43)
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Kristian called him incompetent one day and bganon went home to cry.

bganon

pre 11 godina

Kristian called him incompetent one day and bganon went home to cry.
(Zoran, 4 July 2012 14:11)

Lol Freud would have a field day with that comment. Sorry if I've hurt your feelings Zoran. A bit low though, even by your standards.

Peggy whats the nature of your interest regarding Kristian?

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

NEXT LOGICAL STEP WAS TAKING KOSOVO FROM SERBIAN PEOPLE...

WHAT HAPPENED ON BALKAN?WHY BALKAN IS SO IMPORTANT SPOT FOR EVERYONE?

I WILL TELL YOU.

BEFORE SLAVS CAME-THERE WERE ONLY SMALL TRIBES, WITH DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, "RELIGIONS-PAGAN" ETC...SLAVS CAME-THEY NEVER ACTED AS ENEMIES, THEY SIMPLY ASSIMILATED THOSE TRIBES...SO SLAVS REACHED ALPS...SAME RELIGION(ORTHODOX), SAME LANGUAGE, SAME BLOOD...

WITH SEPARATION OF CHRISTIANITY, WEST PARTS HAD TO "BAPTISE" INTO CATOLIC RELLIGION, AS THE BORDER BETWEEN CATOLICS AND ORTHODOX WAS EXACTLY SEPARATING SLAVS LAND INTO TWO PIECES...SO SLAVS WHO LIVED WEST -ONLY SOME ACCEPTED CATOLICISM, WHILE OTHERS REMAINED AS ORTHODOX(SEPARATION WAS IN 1054)

SO WE HAVE NOW CAtolics slavs and orthodox slavs still the same origin, culture etc..only relligion taken out from some...

lets skip cultural and relligion influence of catolicism for now, lets see what happened with muslims in bosnia...

during turks invasion, they reached bosnia...they started islamizing the rest of orthodox people-by force...names suddenly change from slavic orthodox to islamic-muslims..try to find reccords you will see the truth-how ilija-became alija etc...

icj1

pre 11 godina

Unconfirmed reports of women and children forced to attend a religious service in their underwear. If true, heads deserve to roll.
(Niall O'Doherty, 3 July 2012 18:03)

absolutely correct... the key word is the "if" though :)

Peggy

pre 11 godina

No I don't consider reading about somebody as crossing paths, yes I have crossed paths with Kristian. Now that we have cleared up that vital point, you can resume getting things wrong in other debates!
(bganon, 4 July 2012 11:26)
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You have peaked my interest here. How have you crossed paths with Kristian? Have you met somewhere and had a conversation about something? Have you been in the same room only?
You really haven't said very much at all but I am sure I am not the only one who wants to know to what extent your involved has been with Kristian.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Lol Freud would have a field day with that comment. Sorry if I've hurt your feelings Zoran. A bit low though, even by your standards.
(bganon, 4 July 2012 16:27)
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LOL! I didn't write that, it was my subconscious... just having a little fun my friend, no hard feelings even though you are a rigid type of character. :)

bganon

pre 11 godina

Come on Zoran if you are going to have a bit of fun, at least try and make it witty to entertain us all (me included!)
If you are only looking to entertain yourself only, you could try looking under masaze in Halo Oglasi.

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

AFTER WWI-TITO CAME AS PRESIDENT IN YUGOSLAVIA...TITO SUPPORTED POLITICS OF PEACE, YUGOSLAV CITIZENS WERE WELCOME EVERYWHERE, AND ALSO WHOEVER WANTED TO LIVE FREE, WAS WELCOME HERE TOO..ALBANIANS STARTED ESCAPING FROM THEIR PRESIDENT REGIME TO KOSOVO..THEY HAD EVEN BIGGER RIGHTS THAN MANY OTHER MINOR NATIONALITIES THERE..AS THEY SAW OPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR MORE THEIR INSANE SUGGESTION-TO MAKE 7TH REPUBLIC CAME OUT..TITO OF COURSE DECLINED, SO IT ALL ENDED..BUT NOT FOR LONG.,..THEY STARTED ARMING-SECRETLY, AGAIN THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF THEY WERE NOT SUPPORTED BY SOMEONE(THIS HAPPENED IN CROATIA AND BOSNIA TOO, SO I CAN ASSUME, THAT WHEN ILLEGAL MILITARY FORMATION IS FORMED IN SOME COUNTRY-DIFFERENT THAN LEGAL ONE, THEN IT IS FORMED BY SOMEONE'S HELP..)

SO AS YOU SEE SERBIAN PEOPLE IS DEMONIZED AGAIN...YUGOSLAV MILITARY-LEGAL FORMATION OF ONE COUNTRY IS DEMONIZED TOO, BUT IT IS LAW THAT SAYS-LEGAL ARMY OF YUGOSLAV COUNTRY SHOULD PROTECT THE BORDERS OF THAT COUNTRY..SO AGAIN CONCLUSION-WHY CROATIAN ILLEGAL FORCES WHY BOSNIAN ILLEGAL FORCES WERE FORMED SECRETLY? WHY WARS STARTED?WHY SERBIAN PEOPLE DEMONISED? SIMPLE-SERBIAN PEOPLE ARE ORTHODOX-FIRST OF ALL..THEY ONLY KEPT MAIN RELLIGION, CULTURE, INHERITANCE OF FIRST SLAVS WHO CAME TO BALKAN IN 7TH CENTURY...SO IT WAS EASIER TO SUPPORT WESTERN PARTS AGAINST SERBS, IN ORDER TO REACH RUSSIA...

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

now we have 3 relligions...main came as orthodox, then invadors brought their religions and forced slavic one origin nation to change this basic relligion...so 3 religions created-the representatives are the one same nation-slavs...

so Croatians were named by Vatikan-they got this name from Vatikan..serbs kept the main original name, they had it since settling down on balkan...

origin of name serbs:

from Proto-Indo-European *ser- (“to protect, watch over”); akin to Latin servare (“to guard, protect”), Old English searu (“weapons, armor”), Lithuanian sárgas (“watchman”), Greek ἥρως (hērōs, “hero”), Avestan haraiti, haurvaiti (“he guards”).[

if you started researching of Serbian history, since moving from Russia till settling down on Balkan peninsula, then how it was developing with kingdoms, kings, even every war was not conquering, but deffence from invadors..you will see why serbian people have this description of Serb-name...

So latter history you know-SERBS FOUGHT TURKS-TURKS INVADED EUROPE-SERBS WON FINALLY, TURKS DID NOT REACH WESTERN COUNTRIES...

EA

pre 11 godina

Nice hiding behind being a Norwegian........I would recommend him not to step in Kosovo provocatively.....He doesn't have to take my advise though....as "Kosovo is Serbia.....)))".

icj1

pre 11 godina

Albanians are nomadic tribes descended from Kublai Khan, Huns and Avars; gpysies that roam from mountain to mountain. The Serbian army of WWI can attest to this retreating through Albania under the invitation of the Albanian King but under constant attack and harrassment of Nomadic Albanian hordes living in the mountains who stole, raped and killed starving Serbian civilians. Does that answer your question?
(Jugoslavija, 4 July 2012 21:33)

Of course the Albanians are the worst of the world species and the lowest form of life on Earth. Still don't get how the state of Serbia that was independent in the second half of the 19th century allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization! Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th century to give them their cradle :)

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Nikolle-one thing you should research is:why Croatians, Bosnians and other people who live on Balkan HAVE THE SAME LANGUAGE
Second: research please where from these people came from, which language they kept, which relligion they had as one MAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH CAME TOGETHER.
Third: if all these people were of the SAME ORIGIN, RELLIGION, INHERITANCE(CULTURAL, HISTORIC, RELLIGION) ASK YOURSELF WHAT HAPPENED THEN-HOW THEY "SEPARATED"
i will give you just some answers-they you get to conclusion yourself:
1. Croatinas Bosnians and Serbs(but not all, as there are others but lets talk only about them as they are your problem) cane as SLAVS FROM RUSSIA-THEY CAME NOT KILLING TRIBES THAT ALREADY LIVED, BUT ASSIMILATING WITH THEM-MIXURE BETWEEN SLAVS AND THOSE TRIBES WHICH ACCEPTED ALL THAT SLAVS BROUGH THERE!
2. As they all are Slavs, when Christianity came from south-remmember christianity came from greece, and Roman, so it was spreading both ways, it was unique till 1054 when Christianity divided into Catholic and Orthodox...So again-Slavs are turned By force of Roman law, they simply made non existing border between Slavs who lived there-even then it was not free will of people to CHOSE BETWEEN TWO OF THEM! SO STILL THE SAME LANGUAGE, BUT NOW SPREADING OF CATHOLICISM OVER WEST PART OF SLAVIC LAND!
3. During Othoman empire Turks reached Bosnia, by force of "Blood taxes" the converted some Slavs from Orthodox into Muslims-check out records and find out how ILIJA BECAME ALIJA

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Tribal chiefs Longarus and his son Bato of Dardania took part in the wars[51] against Romans and Macedonians. The Dardanians, in all their history, always[57] had separate domains from the rest of the Illyrians.

During the administrative reforms of Diocletian (244 - 311) and Constantine I (272 – 337), the Diocese of Moesia was created, encompassing most of the central Balkans and the Greek peninsula. After a few years, however, the diocese was split in two, forming the Diocese of Macedonia and the Diocese of Dacia, encompassing the provinces of Dacia Mediterranea, Moesia Inferior, Dardania, Praevalitana and Dacia Ripensis. SO THEIR DARDANIA WAS PART OF GREECE!

Franky NYC

pre 11 godina

Okay lets have him try go to Belgrade or Northern Mitrovica wearing a t-shirt "Kosovo is Albanian" and see how Democratic they are. If he even survives.

Bile & Venom

pre 11 godina

Do you see now Peggy that I am right about b92 letting all these nasty comments so that the world can see how they really are? Comparing him to Brevik in that anonymous and slanderous way is a hoot!

Commenter's should be warned that making such slanderous comments have legal consequences if the victim launches legal action against such anonymous people. Both Twitter and Facebook have comply with such requests. The days of b92 publishing such stuff without nixing it are numbered...

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Here are just some facts every European, and man should read before judging, or deciding if Serbia is right or this fake Albania which was created as the last Country or Nation on European ground!

First of all-history was never based on tribal history.why Kosovo is Serbia.i will tell you only few things.If Albanians lived on Kosovo -WHY ALBANIANS DID NOT FIGHT IT AGAINST TURKS.SECOND IF SERBIAN WON TURKS-WHY THEY WOULD FIGHT THEM IF KOSOVO WAS ALBANIAN.THEY WOULD NEVER FIGHT FOR ALBANIANS.THIRD:HAVE ALBANIANS EVER FIGHT FOR KOSOVO, AGAINST ANYONE WHO WAS FIGHTING THERE(TURKS, AUSTRO-HUNGARIANS, NAZIS).NEVER!! HOW THEN THEY CAN CLAIM THAT KOSOVO IS THEIRS IF YOU NEVER GAVE A DAMN ABOUT IT???

why THEY do not mention that dardanians were defeeted by antient greeks, so according to later history, it was greek theritory..then furthermore:This gave Philip valuable time to gather its forces and to defeat Dardanians still under Bardyllis in the decisive Erigon Valley battle by killing about 7,000 of them eliminating the Dardanian menace for some time.

n 334 BC under the lead of Cleitus the son of Bardyllis, Dardanians in alliance with other Illyrian tribes, of the Taulanti under Glaukias and Autariate, attacked Macedonia which was this time under Alexander the Great. The Dardanians managed to capture some cities but were eventually defeated later by Alexander's forces

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Still don't get how the state of Serbia that was independent in the second half of the 19th century allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization! Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th century to give them their cradle :)
(icj1, 5 July 2012 04:34)
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Serbian problem has always been generosity and wanting to live in peace with others.
Serbs did not GIVE you Kosovo. We were willing to share the land and live in peace with you, which you so obviously abused and spat in our face for.

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

So when you change history of one unique Slavic nation through Centuries-by force, it is expected that those "converted ones" accept it, assimilate it, and then turn against those who remained there but kept the main origin.

Through history those who remained as Orthodox-who did not want to accept law of force were always lambs put on Cross for interests of those who were were "converted" and protected exactly by those who made them converted.

This is why genocides happened over Serbian people even during WWII-SEE EVIDENCES ABOUT USTASHA CAMPS(JASENOVAC,JADOVNO,AND MANY MORE)..

Balkan peninsula is one complex thing to study, and if you want to get real history facts then start from the begining, not from the middle!

ONLY SLAVS WHO REMAINED AS ORTHODOX are judged and only because they did not want to convert into something else by force..so if you only protect your origin, inheritance and land, since you settled down, then how you can be agressor? You are only DEFFENDING FROM AGGRESSORS WHO WANT EITHER TO CONVERT YOU, OR TAKE YOUR LAND, OR ETHNICALY CLEAN AREA FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF OTHER THAN THEM!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

then lies by THEIR dardanian tribes: Dardanians sent a report to Roman Senate, accusing Perseus of Macedon for being again in alliance with Bastarnae against Dardanians, but the Roman investigating commission failed to find support for such accusations

It seems quite probable that the Dardani actually lost independence in 28 BC thus, the final occupation of Dardania by Rome has been connected with the beginnings of Augustus’ rule in 6 AD, when they were finally conquered by Rome. Dardania was conquered by Gaius Scribonius Curio and the Latin language was soon adopted as the main language of the tribe as many other conquered and Romanized.

As with the rest of the Illyrians, today almost nothing survives except for names

The domain of the Dardanian kings was made up of many[52] tribes. The first and most prominent king of the Dardani was Bardyllis[45] who ruled from 385 BC to 358 BC. He was perhaps succeeded by Grabos (358 BC - 356 BC)[53][54] that may have been[55] Bardyllis's son. Little is known about Bardyllis II[56] (4th century BC) Bardyllis's son. Cleitus the Illyrian[56] (4th century BC) was his son.

lili

pre 11 godina

as a good intelligence member,our spy is creating his legend as a pro serb!So nothing wrong here ,we do know why he is so interest at being proserb...
As for vivodan don't worry,he does know too ,as a good spy,that we will never give you the chance to transform it in a confrontation place:we do act when we want,not when you want!
so go on boy, show us your faces every vivodan,it just remind us of how great it is to without you!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

About Bosnia: as i said Slavs were converted by turks into Islam...they were under genocidal influence of Nazis from Croatia even during WWII, so many serbians who were killed in Nazis Camps were also taken from Bosnia...Logically as Bosnia saw opportunity to separate,following Croatian steps, they simply did the same..First known crime that shows this is killing of Serbians on serbian wedding-only because Serbs carried serbian flaggs! Supported by Islamic countries, and others who had interests to come closer to Russia, it was obvious that again Serbian rights are no longer welcome there, so again Serbas are presented as criminals and aggressors, eventhough only Orthodox who lived there SINCE 7TH CENTURY wanted to stay there..Again find out about ex officers who want to testimony abot Srebrenica masacre, what they really want to prove is that Mujahedines were brought by CIA, and therorist organizations, they did crimes over muslim civilians there, and those victims are presented as victims of Serbians..Bosnian war was "hole" where money passed through Balkan, and went to allkaida, and when it was discovered and some people wanted to find out who Alkaida is-it was too late-Alkaida already got the money, Alkaida already did therorist attacks...Watch some testimonies from Hag-the one who told this was poisoned there..

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Dear readers, i would like to see this-if there are graves since first settlements were made on Kosovo, i would like to see pure evidences of how old they are, whose graves were there-as only this can prove how old something is. Next-even flags, written documents whatever remained there as proofs of history, can be analyzed, whose belongings it was, how old it is, and this way-who really lived there ever since. Prove Albanians claims that they lived there-even though even Name METOHIA IS GREEK WORD WHICH MEANS LAND OF MONASTERIES-HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT LAND OF MONASTERIES IS ACTUALLY LAND OF MUSLIMS? HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT EVEN RECORDS FROM ROMAN TIMES SHOW EXACTLY HOW OLD WAS ORTHODOX EVIDENCE, AND YOU WITHDRAWN ALL THESE TRUTHS ACCEPTING FAKE FACTS ABOUT NATION WHICH CAME TO KOSOVO RAPIDLY AFTER WWII, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU ACCEPTED CLAIMS OF NATION-WHICH YOU ALL THE REST OF THE WORLD WERE NOT EVEN AWARE IT EXISTS, OVER TRUTHS OF EVEN ANCIENT GREECE WHICH IS REALLY ONE ANCIENT NATION, AND IF YOU WANT, ONE OF MAIN WITNESSES ABOUT EUROPEAN HISTORY...ISN'T IT A SIN, TO REFUSE REAL FACTS ABOUT HISTORY, AND ACCEPT THEORIES WHICH ARE NOT EVEN PROVED? AGAIN-FIND AT LEAST FLAGS AND COMPARE HOW OLD THEY ARE BY CHEMICAL ANALYSIS..ASK ALBANIA TO GIVE YOU THEIR FIRST FLAG EVER-AND SIMPLY ANALYZE IT..I SIMPLY THINK THEY KEPT THE EVIDENCES ABOUT THEIR HISTORY RIGHT? SO LET THEM PROVE IT, IF THEY REALLY EXISTED AS THIS WHAT THEY CLAIM, THEY WILL PROVE IT..

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

So please when commenting someone's rights, investigate whose rights were really taken, and whose rights were protected by selfproclaimened governments there! If someone selfproclaimes something, then other people rights were not even considered...Selfproclamened separations were not choice of Serbian people who lived there...They still wanted to live there where they came in 7th Century-again.As their rights were not protected, they were attacked over and over again-even Croatians' politicians speaches you can find-those who said 1/3 of Serbs to kill, 1/3 of serbs expell, and 1/3 of Serbas convert-the same Ante Pavelic said during WWII, as ustasha leader, so tell me now who is genocidal here Croatians who wanted Serbian properties by force, or Serbian people who again ONLY DEFENDED?

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

This is a joke right? First of all i live in America and if Mexicans came across the border to celebrate "cinco di mayo" in Texas they better not bring Mexican flags or t-shirts saying Texas is Mexican because they will all get arrested including journalist or Royals I don't care who you are and if you resist then you will face force.You simply don't go as a journalist wearing something that will provoke an action against you just so you will have something to write. What a moron.

frenky America is the worst evil of the world..think about who American's are? As i know in america lived Indian , Majan acteka's so beasts from Europe came and put those people into Getos so if it is your Democracy, then thank you, but no thank you!
Your fake government is nest for worst evil, spreaded by secret organizations, sects CIA , think about how many wars you created, started, how many enemies you made all over the world...the worst thing is-politicians never pay for it, it is always common people..you put under controll millions of people, they pay taxes, and they are not even aware that this money goes exactly to next spots where next wars should be created..IS IT YOUR DEMOCRACY??? IS IT YOUR HUMANITY???WHY YOU DO NOT SAY THE TRUTH ABOUT "WHY EVEN TESLA'S INVENTIONS " DID NOT REACH THE WORLD? SERBIAN PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL THAT HE KNEW HOW TO MAKE FREE ENERGY...YOUR INTERESTS TO SELL ENERGY WAS BIGGER THAN TESLA'S HUMAN WILL TO GIVE THAT ENERGY FOR FREE!

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Peggy

Yeah, you extended the same welcome to Croats and Bosnians right? its never your fault is it?
(Nikolle, 5 July 2012 14:51)
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Yes, that's right. Who was the biggest supporter of brotherhood and unity in Yugoslavia? Who were the people who said they were Yugoslav more than any other? Yep, Serbs.
I know for a fact here in Australia it was only the Serbs who said they were Yugoslav. No Croatian or Macedonians said it and they all played their own national anthem even as far back as late sixties. That is a fact and Milosevic wasn't the president then. Where was he?

So yes, Serbs always forgave and wanted to move on. You can't stand the fact that we are so forgiving because frankly it makes the rest of you look like a**holes.

Franky NYC

pre 11 godina

This is a joke right? First of all i live in America and if Mexicans came across the border to celebrate "cinco di mayo" in Texas they better not bring Mexican flags or t-shirts saying Texas is Mexican because they will all get arrested including journalist or Royals I don't care who you are and if you resist then you will face force.You simply don't go as a journalist wearing something that will provoke an action against you just so you will have something to write. What a moron.

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Yeah, you're right; that's why all the others run for the door because they were impressed by Serbs' brotherhood :)

You are rude and your comments are only provoking, why you simply do not give real true facts for what you claim? By the way i wonder why again during this Kosovo democracy by Albanians, Serbian couple is killed last Friday...can you answer me this question?Is it democracy if Serbian people are still not save even though world supported this "democracy" of albanians?So ok, you have proofs now who albanians are-trying to clean Kosovo from the rest of Serbs...well well well, if you"clean" area from one representative of other nation, then it is to be expected -erasing all the evidences of their existence, history, cultural monuments, even destroying graves...isn't it just genocidal more than defense of Serbians since all this started...so if continuously one nation has less and less percent of people there, what happens how you explain this fact?How is it possible that those who are presented as aggressors are so strong that only 5% of them is abusing the rest of 95% Albanians? Please only pure true facts-do not claim what you saw on TV, we are aware that the same victims are presented opposite by media who supported Albanians...

Ari

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kahrs, you entire sorryserbia.com website is frankly disgusting and sad. Its the same as someone making a website sorryrussia.com after what they did to Chechnya. You're saying sorry to a country and society that by large has failed to say sorry itself for all crimes committed in Bosnia (except isolated apology of Srebrenica) and Kosovo, who still support the criminal gangs in North of Kosovo in their daily acts of terror and criminal activity. Not long ago in Belgrade, some savages slit the throat of a young man on a public bus because they suspected him to be Albanian. I wonder what would happen to you if you went to Serbia and wore a shirt saying Kosovo is Albanian, or in Republika Srpska, saying Bosnia is Bosnian?

And in end, as a slap on the face of Albanian families of more than 2000 people who still are counted as missing, of thousands more who have been killed, you have mustered "courage" to say sorry Serbia. Well, Mr. Kahrs, that only shows the shallowness of your mind, and like of any wisdom or compassion. Good job!

icj1

pre 11 godina

Serbian problem has always been generosity and wanting to live in peace with others.
Serbs did not GIVE you Kosovo. We were willing to share the land and live in peace with you, which you so obviously abused and spat in our face for.
(Peggy, 5 July 2012 11:41)

Yeah, that's what I thought... the innocent and generous Serbs welcomed and gave land to hundreds of thousands of Albanians in the second half of the 19th century in Kosovo, the cradle of Serbdom, because they loved the Albanians so much LOL

icj1

pre 11 godina

Yes, that's right. Who was the biggest supporter of brotherhood and unity in Yugoslavia? Who were the people who said they were Yugoslav more than any other? Yep, Serbs.
(Peggy, 6 July 2012 00:01)

Yeah, you're right; that's why all the others run for the door because they were impressed by Serbs' brotherhood :)

ben

pre 11 godina

"one of them snapped at me: this is Albania, this is not Serbia"

WELL DONE!!!!

Exactly - Kosova is ALBANIAN and will always be Albanian.

And if you have IQ of 10 not to realize that you CAME in Kosova WITH other Serbs FROM Serbia then it's not KPS problem-= they just tried to educate you the basics: where you came from and where have you arrived.

If Serbs stay at their homes there will NEVER EVER be any problems in Kosova. It's that they come to our land and burn it and do all other barbarian things they are good in doing thus one needs to kick them out.

Commentator

pre 11 godina

I knew that heard the name Kristian Kahrs before and now I know from where. This is the radical Pro-Serbian Norwegian who was an Ex-KFOR and who does not miss an opportunity to put himself in the center of attention advocating his Pro-Serbian stance. I'm not surprised to see him continuing his efforts but those claims. Maybe he read Anders Breiviks writings..

Simpatiku

pre 11 godina

Reporter wearing T-shirt and hat with Serbian flag? And he still wants to sue the Kosovo Police. For what? Because he couldn't give them Serbian crap? This is the joke of the year.

Kenny

pre 11 godina

Where is the part where he called them monkeys and said they are not doing their job? Those are his words.
This guy is a freelancer who has no chance in getting a real job with a professional newspaper. He spends his time on Twitter and serbian blogs, asking people to help pay the fine and a lawyer so he can sue them.
He's a nobody looking for his 15 minutes of fame and will forever be a nobody.

Bridge

pre 11 godina

Go to Norway and teach your people how to build a legal system. Breivik ( Friend of Serbia ) killed more than 70 people and he will serve 21 years only and you talking about KPS. Shut the hell up instead.

Berk.

pre 11 godina

Ever since it is clear that this "Norwegian" is Kristian Kahrs, everything made sence. Kahrs is a fanatic and not even close a journalist. He promotes Serbian fascism and very similar to the other Serb-loving Norwegian Anders Breivik. Here some picture with him and Obraz:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150218123460907.347152.705220906&type=3

Just throw that Breivik out of Kosovo and lifetime ban. Problem solved.

Cheers!

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Kahrs concluded by saying that he previously served with KFOR in Kosovo where he arrived "from the democratic Norway to help create democracy and defend human rights".
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There are a lot of ex-KFORs who have seen and want to speak the truth!

blue and gold

pre 11 godina

hahaha, this guy is a joke...
from his own linkedin page: "However, now I have more or less left journalism, and I am now working as an independent business adviser."
http://rs.linkedin.com/in/kristiankahrs
next time, don't lie about your profession.

exKFOR

pre 11 godina

i have always said that jihadists in KiM belong to Turkey or Arab tribes, not to Judeo-Christian Europe: there are enough proof to that: beware - "atheist" jihadists in action http://www.google.com/search?q=kosovo+muslim&hl=en&prmd=imvnsu&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9CzzT5zQDcih4gTco7jUCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CE4Q_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=760

Staff

pre 11 godina

This is extremely bad for the Albanians. If you dont know why, dont bother to answer or reply. Its not only the Norweigian journalist who was angry. Two american, one Danish and one from Portugal that was on the scene were furious and reported it to the world.
The power of freedom of expression is one of the main priciples in the world. I, like the EU in Brussels and all world media and governments, saw the news when the so called police officers took an ordinary flag and threw it on the ground. This is only done in third world countries, mafia states and....a bit of unresolved land that is in a total mess.
On the other hand, this suits Serbia very well.

ICO is closing down due to lack of funds and the Quint countries do not want anything more to do with Kosovo. This because many of them are tired to pour money in to a black hole that is bottom-less. US wants to keep their base there although it will be slimmed with personell 2013-2014.

Does anyone still think that Kosovo one day will be a state by its own ??

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Simpatiku, the t-shirt and flag was ih his bag, not on his body. Why was he harassed for that? And why did the KPS goon say "this is Albania"? What is wrong with Kosovo Albanians? What are these people afraid of, to act in such cowardly ways? In any case, I am glad that there is international press condemning the work of Pristina's KPS. The world is actually aware already, hence why most countries do recognize this US sponsored hell hole, but it is good for Pristina to get the black eye it deserves. Albanians want an ethnically pure Albanian Kosovo, that is picture clear, and more press needs to come forward to say this.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

" if that's how things are in Europe, then we don't want Europe! "

no doubt in my mind that he never heard such a thing. oh and and Zoran yes, KFOR is indeed turning against the Albanians there, you have my favorite poster exKFOR here to tell you that

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"This is all too laughable. You sue the police sir as if anybody cares about you. Next useless story to read!!"
(Captain America, 3 July 2012 15:48)

You are right, unfortunately! In Kosovo it doesn't make any sense! You cannot compare KPS (former KLA 'freedom fighters') with a professional police force in a normal state which is following the laws and has some standards on how to treat citizens and visitors. KPS is more like police in some African country who things they are the big guys and can act like they want to.

failed wannabe journalist

pre 11 godina

Hi B92!
Have you just by the way skipped the small detail that he has called Kosovo a "monkey state"? Great journalism (as always):
Možda nije bilo najpametnije to što sam im rekao da su majmunska država... Smatram da imaju izbor, ili će da poštuju ljudska prava i slobodu reči, ili, ako neće, onda mogu da budu i zemlja majmuna - kaže za "Vesti" Kaš

EA

pre 11 godina

Nice hiding behind being a Norwegian........I would recommend him not to step in Kosovo provocatively.....He doesn't have to take my advise though....as "Kosovo is Serbia.....)))".

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

I have not even started to read the comments to this story yet, but I can hear the comments from loyal Albanians on this site already. There will be multiple excuses about the inaccuracy of this story, but they will never once, not once, admit that maybe the KPS played a bit rough. That is the difference between Serbs and Albanians - Serbs will often daily, ridicule their leadership, whereas Albanians, they would rather die than say a condescending word about the Pristina leadership. Why is that? Is it something cultural?

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

LOL the police officer said "we dont want Europe" well that's fine because in reality you were never European to begin with, just had the support of neo-liberal elitists in Europe.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"I told them I was an international reporter and that they had no right to do that, to which one of them snapped at me: this is Albania, this is not Serbia.".

"I said it was not my fault that they had no customs in the north. I also said I was sorry that there were such policemen in the KPS who do not respect freedom of speech and human rights, to which they responded - if that's how things are in Europe, then we don't want Europe!"

Let's congratulate these KPS officers: For being honest and speaking their minds and not lying in the public like the Kosovo politicians about a 'multi ethnic Kosovo' and being 'young Europeans'

Steve B.

pre 11 godina

This guys isn't the only person from the West that knows who Kosovo really belongs to. MANY soldiers from NATO know and have spoken out saying the wrong side was bombed.

Keep being yourselves Albos. You just make it easier on us.

Marco Italia

pre 11 godina

Although I support Kosovo's independence (because as it stands now, it seems to me as the best solution possible), the truth is, that majority of the Albanians came to Kosovo as late as the second half of the 19th century. They ethnically cleansed the Serbian population from 1876 to 1911 and following that, they became the majority there.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 11 godina

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour by the Keystone Cops of Pristina. There was absolutely no grounds for these people to be harassed and arrested on the basis of exercising their democratic right of freedom of speech and expression. Unconfirmed reports of women and children forced to attend a religious service in their underwear. If true, heads deserve to roll.

Bill

pre 11 godina

This article must be a joke. The entire serb celebrations held inside Kosovo are a provacation, aimed to cause a confrontation with the Kosovars and their government. If anybody from Kosovo would want to display sybols of their government and state inside Serbia, all hell would break loose. The whole thing is nothing but a doubble standart.

Sergio

pre 11 godina

If Serbs stay at their homes there will NEVER EVER be any problems in Kosova. It's that they come to our land and burn it and do all other barbarian things they are good in doing thus one needs to kick them out.
(ben,
Hey Al-Ben,
1: Some serbs are staying at their home and they are burned and killed in you multietnical paradise
2: Kosova were and is still under international law Serbia, so your UCK police has no any right to be there
3: This guy fought once for you and he realized who are you and what are your values, every single human has the right of free speech and if you think the kosova is exception, then you have no place among civilized people
4: the ones that should be kicked out are you, there were not even a smell of albanias on that land until Tito made that mistake letting you in. You should put him a monument and thank Serbia for saving your grand parents from starving in your flourishing paradise.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Does anyone still think that Kosovo one day will be a state by its own ??
(Staff, 3 July 2012 22:06)

I don't think so and frankly I don't think Kosovo cares. All they want in Kosovo is to be independent from Serbia, as they are. I don't think they care if they are dependent on Europe, US or Zimbabwe

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Well our paths have crossed, indeed Kristian has blogged at B92 in the past. I think it would be fair (imo) to say that he is slightly pro Serbian these days...
(bganon, 3 July 2012 20:08)
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So you consider reading about someone as crossing paths? You are a funny person. You must have crossed paths with some very prominent people just by reading about them.

S

pre 11 godina

I have read a many things criticizing Kristian of being pro-serbian.

Well let's just state a couple of facts:

1. Kristian was NOT pro-serbian when he arived to Kosovo in KFOR uniform. He was rather multiethnicly, multiculturaly and pro-democratic oriented and wanted to participate in oginizing such life and society in Kosovo.

2. It was during and after his service as INTELIGENCE officer in Norwegian KFOR forces that he came to insight that Albanians had just homegenous great Albania in mind where the only good Serb is dead Serb. This insight came despite the propaganda about some multhietnic "kosovar" society.

3. Albanians had all the time to influence Kristian to their favour while he has served in Kosovo, yet they failed to do so. Instead Kristian voulunteerly apologised to all Serbian about all misdeeds commited by NATO and KFOR regarding the bombing of 1999 and subsequent ocupation of Kosovo.

So if that means that he is pro-serbian, well so be it, he has all right to do so! My question (to all anti-serbian Albanians) is how come that you express such high level of hatred towards everything Serbian? More so since the name of the area is Kosovo and Metohija. Where Kosovo is short for Kosovo polje (blackird field) and Metohija comes from greek metoh meaning church estate.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Eagle
Captain America
Miri

If it was the other way around and this norwegian was misstreated by serbian police you would be all over the place. One sign that albanians lack a democratic way of thinking is the fact that you always dissmiss any critisism against your police, politicians and people in general. Your ego is a little to big for your own good.

Bile & Venom

pre 11 godina

Do you see now Peggy that I am right about b92 letting all these nasty comments so that the world can see how they really are? Comparing him to Brevik in that anonymous and slanderous way is a hoot!

Commenter's should be warned that making such slanderous comments have legal consequences if the victim launches legal action against such anonymous people. Both Twitter and Facebook have comply with such requests. The days of b92 publishing such stuff without nixing it are numbered...

Zoran

pre 11 godina

This article must be a joke. The entire serb celebrations held inside Kosovo are a provacation, aimed to cause a confrontation with the Kosovars and their government. If anybody from Kosovo would want to display sybols of their government and state inside Serbia, all hell would break loose. The whole thing is nothing but a doubble standart.
(Bill, 4 July 2012 10:10)
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Get a life Bill. So anything Serbian in KiM is a provocation to Albanians? Yes, it's not surprising because they are one of the most intolerant people in the world.

However, we Serbians tolerate them without too many issues. They even have their own Albanians flag day. Check -> http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=11&dd=28&nav_id=71181 and eat your words.

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

This joke of a police squad has no clue what its doing. It lets pass all the crimes these albanian criminals do.. and then harasses Serbian citizens. Its a shame.. and personally next time someone needs to put them in their place. These police officers are nothing more than criminals themselves, part of an illegal govt on Serbian territory. Im glad to see this reported.. and good point, albanian flags all over Kosovo.. but Serbian not allowed? how multiethnic. What a damn joke. Can't wait til this pot boils over. to put these weak forces back in their place.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Although I support Kosovo's independence (because as it stands now, it seems to me as the best solution possible), the truth is, that majority of the Albanians came to Kosovo as late as the second half of the 19th century. They ethnically cleansed the Serbian population from 1876 to 1911 and following that, they became the majority there.
(Marco Italia, 3 July 2012 17:54)

Where did they come from dear ? And the great and tolerant state of Serbia that was independent at that time allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization ?1 Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th cerntury to give them their cradle :)

hey Nikolle

pre 11 godina

if that's how things are in Europe, then we don't want Europe! "

no doubt in my mind that he never heard such a thing. oh and and Zoran yes, KFOR is indeed turning against the Albanians there, you have my favorite poster exKFOR here to tell you that
(Nikolle, 3 July 2012 21:02)

Jihadists from KiM desperately want to suck up to European money as you are not able to produce any by yourselves, except for criminal of course... believe me , majority of my battalion did not like Albanians at all - though they met only Muslims in the North - but as I have told you many times, nobody cared either - for them it was just fun trip. make money, to have some thrill during March riots - and their aim was to get away and close the border in order not to let any of your kinsmen to Europe. It is like all those UN workers in Arabic Muslim countries - nice extravagant time to spend there, but - not to live there an not to let those people with their backwarded and racist ideology to their home-countries. Just accept the reality, who would like to have sth like that http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/nicolai-sennels-report-from-the-therapy-room-why-are-muslims-more-violent-and-criminal.html or http://www.google.com/search?q=kosovo+muslims&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Swb0T_-LLa3a4QTAzKTEBg&ved=0CEsQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=760 in Europe - nobody but jihadists and brainwashed lefties...lol

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Simpatiku, the t-shirt and flag was ih his bag, not on his body. Why was he harassed for that? "
(Ecoman, 3 July 2012 16:42)

Of course! This guy definitely doesn't know about Kosovo habits and customs! Maybe next time he will carry drugs in his bag, then he can travel in Kosovo without being bothered by the police :)

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Navi

Serbs on the other hand are accommodating, understanding and willing to listen and compromise as the Croats, Bosnians and K. Albanians can so well attest

bganon

pre 11 godina

Well our paths have crossed, indeed Kristian has blogged at B92 in the past. I think it would be fair (imo) to say that he is slightly pro Serbian these days, but its also true to say that many from countries with high living standards produce individuals with contrary views who desire to contradict 'official' policy. 'Official' policy being official western policy.

So I suppose he wanted to see the view from the ground to record his own experiences and this was the result. It does pose questions relating to embedding oneself and the boundaries between that and participation but in no way should Kahrs have been harassed.

And yes as somebody has pointed out he does work as a business advisor, but obviously continues his work as a journalist. There is nothing wrong with that in this case there can certainly be no question of a conflict of interest.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

How have you crossed paths with Kristian?
(Peggy, 4 July 2012 12:43)
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Kristian called him incompetent one day and bganon went home to cry.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Lol Freud would have a field day with that comment. Sorry if I've hurt your feelings Zoran. A bit low though, even by your standards.
(bganon, 4 July 2012 16:27)
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LOL! I didn't write that, it was my subconscious... just having a little fun my friend, no hard feelings even though you are a rigid type of character. :)

Jugoslavija

pre 11 godina

Where did they come from dear ? And the great and tolerant state of Serbia that was independent at that time allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization ?1 Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th cerntury to give them their cradle :)
(icj1, 4 July 2012 02:29)

Albanians are nomadic tribes descended from Kublai Khan, Huns and Avars; gpysies that roam from mountain to mountain. The Serbian army of WWI can attest to this retreating through Albania under the invitation of the Albanian King but under constant attack and harrassment of Nomadic Albanian hordes living in the mountains who stole, raped and killed starving Serbian civilians. Does that answer your question?

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"This is all too laughable. You sue the police sir as if anybody cares about you. Next useless story to read!!"
(Captain America, 3 July 2012 15:48)

Indeed! As if anybody would care about police abusing their power down there! Though he didn't meet a custom officer at the checkpoints, he must have known that he left civilized Europe and entered into Kosovo! Hahaha..

Peggy

pre 11 godina

No I don't consider reading about somebody as crossing paths, yes I have crossed paths with Kristian. Now that we have cleared up that vital point, you can resume getting things wrong in other debates!
(bganon, 4 July 2012 11:26)
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You have peaked my interest here. How have you crossed paths with Kristian? Have you met somewhere and had a conversation about something? Have you been in the same room only?
You really haven't said very much at all but I am sure I am not the only one who wants to know to what extent your involved has been with Kristian.

Navi

pre 11 godina

The truth must hurt since the Albanians are so angry here. I agree with Kahrs 100%. Albanians are rude, obnoxious, and insulting if you don't agree with their beliefs.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Unconfirmed reports of women and children forced to attend a religious service in their underwear. If true, heads deserve to roll.
(Niall O'Doherty, 3 July 2012 18:03)

absolutely correct... the key word is the "if" though :)

bganon

pre 11 godina

Kristian called him incompetent one day and bganon went home to cry.
(Zoran, 4 July 2012 14:11)

Lol Freud would have a field day with that comment. Sorry if I've hurt your feelings Zoran. A bit low though, even by your standards.

Peggy whats the nature of your interest regarding Kristian?

bganon

pre 11 godina

Zoran I know you have a bad habit of getting things wrong, so I'll correct you again.

No I don't consider reading about somebody as crossing paths, yes I have crossed paths with Kristian. Now that we have cleared up that vital point, you can resume getting things wrong in other debates!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Here are just some facts every European, and man should read before judging, or deciding if Serbia is right or this fake Albania which was created as the last Country or Nation on European ground!

First of all-history was never based on tribal history.why Kosovo is Serbia.i will tell you only few things.If Albanians lived on Kosovo -WHY ALBANIANS DID NOT FIGHT IT AGAINST TURKS.SECOND IF SERBIAN WON TURKS-WHY THEY WOULD FIGHT THEM IF KOSOVO WAS ALBANIAN.THEY WOULD NEVER FIGHT FOR ALBANIANS.THIRD:HAVE ALBANIANS EVER FIGHT FOR KOSOVO, AGAINST ANYONE WHO WAS FIGHTING THERE(TURKS, AUSTRO-HUNGARIANS, NAZIS).NEVER!! HOW THEN THEY CAN CLAIM THAT KOSOVO IS THEIRS IF YOU NEVER GAVE A DAMN ABOUT IT???

why THEY do not mention that dardanians were defeeted by antient greeks, so according to later history, it was greek theritory..then furthermore:This gave Philip valuable time to gather its forces and to defeat Dardanians still under Bardyllis in the decisive Erigon Valley battle by killing about 7,000 of them eliminating the Dardanian menace for some time.

n 334 BC under the lead of Cleitus the son of Bardyllis, Dardanians in alliance with other Illyrian tribes, of the Taulanti under Glaukias and Autariate, attacked Macedonia which was this time under Alexander the Great. The Dardanians managed to capture some cities but were eventually defeated later by Alexander's forces

Agon

pre 11 godina

"saw the news when the so called police officers took an ordinary flag and threw it on the ground. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ

- 0:50 Police officer: I don't need your flag we are independent! Please maaaaan.

LOL

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

then lies by THEIR dardanian tribes: Dardanians sent a report to Roman Senate, accusing Perseus of Macedon for being again in alliance with Bastarnae against Dardanians, but the Roman investigating commission failed to find support for such accusations

It seems quite probable that the Dardani actually lost independence in 28 BC thus, the final occupation of Dardania by Rome has been connected with the beginnings of Augustus’ rule in 6 AD, when they were finally conquered by Rome. Dardania was conquered by Gaius Scribonius Curio and the Latin language was soon adopted as the main language of the tribe as many other conquered and Romanized.

As with the rest of the Illyrians, today almost nothing survives except for names

The domain of the Dardanian kings was made up of many[52] tribes. The first and most prominent king of the Dardani was Bardyllis[45] who ruled from 385 BC to 358 BC. He was perhaps succeeded by Grabos (358 BC - 356 BC)[53][54] that may have been[55] Bardyllis's son. Little is known about Bardyllis II[56] (4th century BC) Bardyllis's son. Cleitus the Illyrian[56] (4th century BC) was his son.

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Tribal chiefs Longarus and his son Bato of Dardania took part in the wars[51] against Romans and Macedonians. The Dardanians, in all their history, always[57] had separate domains from the rest of the Illyrians.

During the administrative reforms of Diocletian (244 - 311) and Constantine I (272 – 337), the Diocese of Moesia was created, encompassing most of the central Balkans and the Greek peninsula. After a few years, however, the diocese was split in two, forming the Diocese of Macedonia and the Diocese of Dacia, encompassing the provinces of Dacia Mediterranea, Moesia Inferior, Dardania, Praevalitana and Dacia Ripensis. SO THEIR DARDANIA WAS PART OF GREECE!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

NEXT LOGICAL STEP WAS TAKING KOSOVO FROM SERBIAN PEOPLE...

WHAT HAPPENED ON BALKAN?WHY BALKAN IS SO IMPORTANT SPOT FOR EVERYONE?

I WILL TELL YOU.

BEFORE SLAVS CAME-THERE WERE ONLY SMALL TRIBES, WITH DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, "RELIGIONS-PAGAN" ETC...SLAVS CAME-THEY NEVER ACTED AS ENEMIES, THEY SIMPLY ASSIMILATED THOSE TRIBES...SO SLAVS REACHED ALPS...SAME RELIGION(ORTHODOX), SAME LANGUAGE, SAME BLOOD...

WITH SEPARATION OF CHRISTIANITY, WEST PARTS HAD TO "BAPTISE" INTO CATOLIC RELLIGION, AS THE BORDER BETWEEN CATOLICS AND ORTHODOX WAS EXACTLY SEPARATING SLAVS LAND INTO TWO PIECES...SO SLAVS WHO LIVED WEST -ONLY SOME ACCEPTED CATOLICISM, WHILE OTHERS REMAINED AS ORTHODOX(SEPARATION WAS IN 1054)

SO WE HAVE NOW CAtolics slavs and orthodox slavs still the same origin, culture etc..only relligion taken out from some...

lets skip cultural and relligion influence of catolicism for now, lets see what happened with muslims in bosnia...

during turks invasion, they reached bosnia...they started islamizing the rest of orthodox people-by force...names suddenly change from slavic orthodox to islamic-muslims..try to find reccords you will see the truth-how ilija-became alija etc...

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

now we have 3 relligions...main came as orthodox, then invadors brought their religions and forced slavic one origin nation to change this basic relligion...so 3 religions created-the representatives are the one same nation-slavs...

so Croatians were named by Vatikan-they got this name from Vatikan..serbs kept the main original name, they had it since settling down on balkan...

origin of name serbs:

from Proto-Indo-European *ser- (“to protect, watch over”); akin to Latin servare (“to guard, protect”), Old English searu (“weapons, armor”), Lithuanian sárgas (“watchman”), Greek ἥρως (hērōs, “hero”), Avestan haraiti, haurvaiti (“he guards”).[

if you started researching of Serbian history, since moving from Russia till settling down on Balkan peninsula, then how it was developing with kingdoms, kings, even every war was not conquering, but deffence from invadors..you will see why serbian people have this description of Serb-name...

So latter history you know-SERBS FOUGHT TURKS-TURKS INVADED EUROPE-SERBS WON FINALLY, TURKS DID NOT REACH WESTERN COUNTRIES...

lili

pre 11 godina

as a good intelligence member,our spy is creating his legend as a pro serb!So nothing wrong here ,we do know why he is so interest at being proserb...
As for vivodan don't worry,he does know too ,as a good spy,that we will never give you the chance to transform it in a confrontation place:we do act when we want,not when you want!
so go on boy, show us your faces every vivodan,it just remind us of how great it is to without you!

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Still don't get how the state of Serbia that was independent in the second half of the 19th century allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization! Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th century to give them their cradle :)
(icj1, 5 July 2012 04:34)
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Serbian problem has always been generosity and wanting to live in peace with others.
Serbs did not GIVE you Kosovo. We were willing to share the land and live in peace with you, which you so obviously abused and spat in our face for.

bganon

pre 11 godina

Come on Zoran if you are going to have a bit of fun, at least try and make it witty to entertain us all (me included!)
If you are only looking to entertain yourself only, you could try looking under masaze in Halo Oglasi.

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

AFTER WWI-TITO CAME AS PRESIDENT IN YUGOSLAVIA...TITO SUPPORTED POLITICS OF PEACE, YUGOSLAV CITIZENS WERE WELCOME EVERYWHERE, AND ALSO WHOEVER WANTED TO LIVE FREE, WAS WELCOME HERE TOO..ALBANIANS STARTED ESCAPING FROM THEIR PRESIDENT REGIME TO KOSOVO..THEY HAD EVEN BIGGER RIGHTS THAN MANY OTHER MINOR NATIONALITIES THERE..AS THEY SAW OPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR MORE THEIR INSANE SUGGESTION-TO MAKE 7TH REPUBLIC CAME OUT..TITO OF COURSE DECLINED, SO IT ALL ENDED..BUT NOT FOR LONG.,..THEY STARTED ARMING-SECRETLY, AGAIN THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF THEY WERE NOT SUPPORTED BY SOMEONE(THIS HAPPENED IN CROATIA AND BOSNIA TOO, SO I CAN ASSUME, THAT WHEN ILLEGAL MILITARY FORMATION IS FORMED IN SOME COUNTRY-DIFFERENT THAN LEGAL ONE, THEN IT IS FORMED BY SOMEONE'S HELP..)

SO AS YOU SEE SERBIAN PEOPLE IS DEMONIZED AGAIN...YUGOSLAV MILITARY-LEGAL FORMATION OF ONE COUNTRY IS DEMONIZED TOO, BUT IT IS LAW THAT SAYS-LEGAL ARMY OF YUGOSLAV COUNTRY SHOULD PROTECT THE BORDERS OF THAT COUNTRY..SO AGAIN CONCLUSION-WHY CROATIAN ILLEGAL FORCES WHY BOSNIAN ILLEGAL FORCES WERE FORMED SECRETLY? WHY WARS STARTED?WHY SERBIAN PEOPLE DEMONISED? SIMPLE-SERBIAN PEOPLE ARE ORTHODOX-FIRST OF ALL..THEY ONLY KEPT MAIN RELLIGION, CULTURE, INHERITANCE OF FIRST SLAVS WHO CAME TO BALKAN IN 7TH CENTURY...SO IT WAS EASIER TO SUPPORT WESTERN PARTS AGAINST SERBS, IN ORDER TO REACH RUSSIA...

icj1

pre 11 godina

Albanians are nomadic tribes descended from Kublai Khan, Huns and Avars; gpysies that roam from mountain to mountain. The Serbian army of WWI can attest to this retreating through Albania under the invitation of the Albanian King but under constant attack and harrassment of Nomadic Albanian hordes living in the mountains who stole, raped and killed starving Serbian civilians. Does that answer your question?
(Jugoslavija, 4 July 2012 21:33)

Of course the Albanians are the worst of the world species and the lowest form of life on Earth. Still don't get how the state of Serbia that was independent in the second half of the 19th century allowed them to settle in Kosovo, the cradle of Serb civilization! Woow such a love of Serbs for Albanians in the second half of the 19th century to give them their cradle :)

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

So when you change history of one unique Slavic nation through Centuries-by force, it is expected that those "converted ones" accept it, assimilate it, and then turn against those who remained there but kept the main origin.

Through history those who remained as Orthodox-who did not want to accept law of force were always lambs put on Cross for interests of those who were were "converted" and protected exactly by those who made them converted.

This is why genocides happened over Serbian people even during WWII-SEE EVIDENCES ABOUT USTASHA CAMPS(JASENOVAC,JADOVNO,AND MANY MORE)..

Balkan peninsula is one complex thing to study, and if you want to get real history facts then start from the begining, not from the middle!

ONLY SLAVS WHO REMAINED AS ORTHODOX are judged and only because they did not want to convert into something else by force..so if you only protect your origin, inheritance and land, since you settled down, then how you can be agressor? You are only DEFFENDING FROM AGGRESSORS WHO WANT EITHER TO CONVERT YOU, OR TAKE YOUR LAND, OR ETHNICALY CLEAN AREA FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF OTHER THAN THEM!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

About Bosnia: as i said Slavs were converted by turks into Islam...they were under genocidal influence of Nazis from Croatia even during WWII, so many serbians who were killed in Nazis Camps were also taken from Bosnia...Logically as Bosnia saw opportunity to separate,following Croatian steps, they simply did the same..First known crime that shows this is killing of Serbians on serbian wedding-only because Serbs carried serbian flaggs! Supported by Islamic countries, and others who had interests to come closer to Russia, it was obvious that again Serbian rights are no longer welcome there, so again Serbas are presented as criminals and aggressors, eventhough only Orthodox who lived there SINCE 7TH CENTURY wanted to stay there..Again find out about ex officers who want to testimony abot Srebrenica masacre, what they really want to prove is that Mujahedines were brought by CIA, and therorist organizations, they did crimes over muslim civilians there, and those victims are presented as victims of Serbians..Bosnian war was "hole" where money passed through Balkan, and went to allkaida, and when it was discovered and some people wanted to find out who Alkaida is-it was too late-Alkaida already got the money, Alkaida already did therorist attacks...Watch some testimonies from Hag-the one who told this was poisoned there..

so wrong

pre 11 godina

2. It was during and after his service as INTELIGENCE officer in Norwegian KFOR forces that he came to insight that Albanians had just homegenous great Albania in mind where the only good Serb is dead Serb.
(S, 4 July 2012 12:47)

INTELIGENCE officer?

Press officer at Norwegian army, KFOR HQ, Kosovo
http://rs.linkedin.com/in/kristiankahrs

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Nikolle-one thing you should research is:why Croatians, Bosnians and other people who live on Balkan HAVE THE SAME LANGUAGE
Second: research please where from these people came from, which language they kept, which relligion they had as one MAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH CAME TOGETHER.
Third: if all these people were of the SAME ORIGIN, RELLIGION, INHERITANCE(CULTURAL, HISTORIC, RELLIGION) ASK YOURSELF WHAT HAPPENED THEN-HOW THEY "SEPARATED"
i will give you just some answers-they you get to conclusion yourself:
1. Croatinas Bosnians and Serbs(but not all, as there are others but lets talk only about them as they are your problem) cane as SLAVS FROM RUSSIA-THEY CAME NOT KILLING TRIBES THAT ALREADY LIVED, BUT ASSIMILATING WITH THEM-MIXURE BETWEEN SLAVS AND THOSE TRIBES WHICH ACCEPTED ALL THAT SLAVS BROUGH THERE!
2. As they all are Slavs, when Christianity came from south-remmember christianity came from greece, and Roman, so it was spreading both ways, it was unique till 1054 when Christianity divided into Catholic and Orthodox...So again-Slavs are turned By force of Roman law, they simply made non existing border between Slavs who lived there-even then it was not free will of people to CHOSE BETWEEN TWO OF THEM! SO STILL THE SAME LANGUAGE, BUT NOW SPREADING OF CATHOLICISM OVER WEST PART OF SLAVIC LAND!
3. During Othoman empire Turks reached Bosnia, by force of "Blood taxes" the converted some Slavs from Orthodox into Muslims-check out records and find out how ILIJA BECAME ALIJA

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

So please when commenting someone's rights, investigate whose rights were really taken, and whose rights were protected by selfproclaimened governments there! If someone selfproclaimes something, then other people rights were not even considered...Selfproclamened separations were not choice of Serbian people who lived there...They still wanted to live there where they came in 7th Century-again.As their rights were not protected, they were attacked over and over again-even Croatians' politicians speaches you can find-those who said 1/3 of Serbs to kill, 1/3 of serbs expell, and 1/3 of Serbas convert-the same Ante Pavelic said during WWII, as ustasha leader, so tell me now who is genocidal here Croatians who wanted Serbian properties by force, or Serbian people who again ONLY DEFENDED?

Franky NYC

pre 11 godina

This is a joke right? First of all i live in America and if Mexicans came across the border to celebrate "cinco di mayo" in Texas they better not bring Mexican flags or t-shirts saying Texas is Mexican because they will all get arrested including journalist or Royals I don't care who you are and if you resist then you will face force.You simply don't go as a journalist wearing something that will provoke an action against you just so you will have something to write. What a moron.

Franky NYC

pre 11 godina

Okay lets have him try go to Belgrade or Northern Mitrovica wearing a t-shirt "Kosovo is Albanian" and see how Democratic they are. If he even survives.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Serbian problem has always been generosity and wanting to live in peace with others.
Serbs did not GIVE you Kosovo. We were willing to share the land and live in peace with you, which you so obviously abused and spat in our face for.
(Peggy, 5 July 2012 11:41)

Yeah, that's what I thought... the innocent and generous Serbs welcomed and gave land to hundreds of thousands of Albanians in the second half of the 19th century in Kosovo, the cradle of Serbdom, because they loved the Albanians so much LOL

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Peggy

Yeah, you extended the same welcome to Croats and Bosnians right? its never your fault is it?
(Nikolle, 5 July 2012 14:51)
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Yes, that's right. Who was the biggest supporter of brotherhood and unity in Yugoslavia? Who were the people who said they were Yugoslav more than any other? Yep, Serbs.
I know for a fact here in Australia it was only the Serbs who said they were Yugoslav. No Croatian or Macedonians said it and they all played their own national anthem even as far back as late sixties. That is a fact and Milosevic wasn't the president then. Where was he?

So yes, Serbs always forgave and wanted to move on. You can't stand the fact that we are so forgiving because frankly it makes the rest of you look like a**holes.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Yes, that's right. Who was the biggest supporter of brotherhood and unity in Yugoslavia? Who were the people who said they were Yugoslav more than any other? Yep, Serbs.
(Peggy, 6 July 2012 00:01)

Yeah, you're right; that's why all the others run for the door because they were impressed by Serbs' brotherhood :)

Ari

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kahrs, you entire sorryserbia.com website is frankly disgusting and sad. Its the same as someone making a website sorryrussia.com after what they did to Chechnya. You're saying sorry to a country and society that by large has failed to say sorry itself for all crimes committed in Bosnia (except isolated apology of Srebrenica) and Kosovo, who still support the criminal gangs in North of Kosovo in their daily acts of terror and criminal activity. Not long ago in Belgrade, some savages slit the throat of a young man on a public bus because they suspected him to be Albanian. I wonder what would happen to you if you went to Serbia and wore a shirt saying Kosovo is Albanian, or in Republika Srpska, saying Bosnia is Bosnian?

And in end, as a slap on the face of Albanian families of more than 2000 people who still are counted as missing, of thousands more who have been killed, you have mustered "courage" to say sorry Serbia. Well, Mr. Kahrs, that only shows the shallowness of your mind, and like of any wisdom or compassion. Good job!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

This is a joke right? First of all i live in America and if Mexicans came across the border to celebrate "cinco di mayo" in Texas they better not bring Mexican flags or t-shirts saying Texas is Mexican because they will all get arrested including journalist or Royals I don't care who you are and if you resist then you will face force.You simply don't go as a journalist wearing something that will provoke an action against you just so you will have something to write. What a moron.

frenky America is the worst evil of the world..think about who American's are? As i know in america lived Indian , Majan acteka's so beasts from Europe came and put those people into Getos so if it is your Democracy, then thank you, but no thank you!
Your fake government is nest for worst evil, spreaded by secret organizations, sects CIA , think about how many wars you created, started, how many enemies you made all over the world...the worst thing is-politicians never pay for it, it is always common people..you put under controll millions of people, they pay taxes, and they are not even aware that this money goes exactly to next spots where next wars should be created..IS IT YOUR DEMOCRACY??? IS IT YOUR HUMANITY???WHY YOU DO NOT SAY THE TRUTH ABOUT "WHY EVEN TESLA'S INVENTIONS " DID NOT REACH THE WORLD? SERBIAN PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL THAT HE KNEW HOW TO MAKE FREE ENERGY...YOUR INTERESTS TO SELL ENERGY WAS BIGGER THAN TESLA'S HUMAN WILL TO GIVE THAT ENERGY FOR FREE!

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Yeah, you're right; that's why all the others run for the door because they were impressed by Serbs' brotherhood :)

You are rude and your comments are only provoking, why you simply do not give real true facts for what you claim? By the way i wonder why again during this Kosovo democracy by Albanians, Serbian couple is killed last Friday...can you answer me this question?Is it democracy if Serbian people are still not save even though world supported this "democracy" of albanians?So ok, you have proofs now who albanians are-trying to clean Kosovo from the rest of Serbs...well well well, if you"clean" area from one representative of other nation, then it is to be expected -erasing all the evidences of their existence, history, cultural monuments, even destroying graves...isn't it just genocidal more than defense of Serbians since all this started...so if continuously one nation has less and less percent of people there, what happens how you explain this fact?How is it possible that those who are presented as aggressors are so strong that only 5% of them is abusing the rest of 95% Albanians? Please only pure true facts-do not claim what you saw on TV, we are aware that the same victims are presented opposite by media who supported Albanians...

PureHistoryFacts

pre 11 godina

Dear readers, i would like to see this-if there are graves since first settlements were made on Kosovo, i would like to see pure evidences of how old they are, whose graves were there-as only this can prove how old something is. Next-even flags, written documents whatever remained there as proofs of history, can be analyzed, whose belongings it was, how old it is, and this way-who really lived there ever since. Prove Albanians claims that they lived there-even though even Name METOHIA IS GREEK WORD WHICH MEANS LAND OF MONASTERIES-HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT LAND OF MONASTERIES IS ACTUALLY LAND OF MUSLIMS? HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT EVEN RECORDS FROM ROMAN TIMES SHOW EXACTLY HOW OLD WAS ORTHODOX EVIDENCE, AND YOU WITHDRAWN ALL THESE TRUTHS ACCEPTING FAKE FACTS ABOUT NATION WHICH CAME TO KOSOVO RAPIDLY AFTER WWII, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU ACCEPTED CLAIMS OF NATION-WHICH YOU ALL THE REST OF THE WORLD WERE NOT EVEN AWARE IT EXISTS, OVER TRUTHS OF EVEN ANCIENT GREECE WHICH IS REALLY ONE ANCIENT NATION, AND IF YOU WANT, ONE OF MAIN WITNESSES ABOUT EUROPEAN HISTORY...ISN'T IT A SIN, TO REFUSE REAL FACTS ABOUT HISTORY, AND ACCEPT THEORIES WHICH ARE NOT EVEN PROVED? AGAIN-FIND AT LEAST FLAGS AND COMPARE HOW OLD THEY ARE BY CHEMICAL ANALYSIS..ASK ALBANIA TO GIVE YOU THEIR FIRST FLAG EVER-AND SIMPLY ANALYZE IT..I SIMPLY THINK THEY KEPT THE EVIDENCES ABOUT THEIR HISTORY RIGHT? SO LET THEM PROVE IT, IF THEY REALLY EXISTED AS THIS WHAT THEY CLAIM, THEY WILL PROVE IT..