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Thursday, 28.06.2012.

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Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem, patriarch says

Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC) Patriarch Irinej has said in Gračanica that Kosovo was, is, and will be the holy Serb land - the Serbian Jerusalem.

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Nora

pre 11 godina

Kosovo was never ‘Serbian Jerusalem’, as the scientist Noel Malcolm has argued: ‘Claims are still made today that Kosovo is the "Jerusalem" of the Serbs; but this has always been something of an exaggeration. In no form of Christianity, including eastern Orthodoxy, does a "holy place" play any sort of theological role equivalent to the role of Jerusalem in Judaism. The seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church was not founded in Kosovo; it merely moved there after its original foundation (in central Serbia) was burnt down’.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Nice job patriarch, you just fueled the fire...do you really think that soil is much more important than human lives?
(ilir, 28 June 2012 16:50)
=================================

But he IS thinking of human lives. For as long as KLA rules there, there is NO LIFE for Serbs or any other non Albanian.

Now, will you ask yourself the same question? Was land more important to KLA than lives? Why did they start this nightmare?

think about it

pre 11 godina

God will protect the Serbs. And he will not let evil prevail in this conflict. Albos days are numbered on our holy land.
(Steve B., 28 June 2012 15:33
One cannot preach hate 6 days a week and expect GOD's protection from self made enemies on the 7th. God's love is unconditional but his actions are not. God works in mysterious ways and sometimes things happen to cause you to change your ways.
Nowhere in any religion have I seen where Serbs were referred to as the "chosen people"!

icj1

pre 11 godina

"The holy Kosovo soil is ours and we must never lose sight of it"

Interesting... didn't know that Miroslav or the people present were the owners of the land deeds of the entire Kosovo !

truthiness

pre 11 godina

"Freedom is a gift from God,..."

I for one have no problem with this statement. However in order for the good patriarch to be taken seriouslly, his views must apply universally.

Where is his speech declaring "Freedom is a gift from God,.." for the people of Croatia.

Where is his speech declaring "Freedom is a gift from God,..." for the people in Bosnia

Where is his speech "Freedom is a gift from God,..." for the people of Kosovo.

Maybe , just maybe - if the SPC had applied this notion of freedom equally to all ethnic groups in the former Yugo - things may have ended somewhat differantly.

Something to ponder.

have a nice day

L-pz

pre 11 godina

kick him out as soon as possible and never you are welcome , only thing left for you patriarch Irnej go to Jerusalem how much you want?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Kosova has 91% Albanian populace...good enough. You stole it from Italians to begin with, right thing to do is return it back to them

Adem

pre 11 godina

More fantasy from irelevant leader of serbs.
Kosovo is since 1389 land for Albanian and Bosniak people.
No future for Serbia in Kosovo since 1389 - fact of history.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

The liturgy was attended by Serbian Ministry for Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović and Russian Ambassador to Belgrade Aleksandr Konuzin.

I can deal with these two. Oli is a Kosovar citizen, and Konuzin a foreign dignitary. What happened to Ivica? Will he ever be able to step a foot on Kosova soil??? I doubt it very much.

dori tirana

pre 11 godina

for all outsiders. The problem of kosova doesn't exist. We have only the probleme of this kind of religious man that seria has and the hypocrite and colionalist elite that serbia had and has. A religious man that inspire it's people for war . Puufff

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold, not in your lifetime....
(Ivica dacic, 28 June 2012 16:29)

Sorry Iviqa Daqiq but your weak and feeble people don't get to decide in who's lifetime it shall be.

What important is its inevitable :)

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Because Italians are not trying to steal Kosovo for themselves, and cleanse it of all non-Italians, the Albanians are. They have wanted to steal this land for themselves for centuries, and cleanse it of all but Albanians. Serbians have proof of their heritage on the soil of Kosovo, Albanians do not. So cut all the crap about Romans, etc. Kosovo has no proof of Albanian heritage. What is it? Capire, comprendere?

Reader

pre 11 godina

"Freedom is a gift from God" in reality means, "since I am God's emissary on earth, and freedom comes from my boss, I am the administrator of your freedom". That is the logical conclusion of that sentence.

Freedom is not a gift, padre. Freedom is something one just takes for himself. If you don't have it, you fight and take it. It does not come from God, it comes from Man. It is not taken away by God, it is taken away by Man.

boring!

pre 11 godina

God will protect the Serbs. And he will not let evil prevail in this conflict. Albos days are numbered on our holy land.
(Steve B., 28 June 2012 15:33)

And if not you will rule in heaven. Same old story repeated for the xth-time.

Luli

pre 11 godina

"Freedom was a gift from God" it was not like that before 99 Pope, When you had all the power and thought you were the only god in Kosova.You forgot to explain to your people (if you ever learned) that when you are all the way on top must think for the bottom and now you are going there full speed without stoping

Official Kosovo Soil

pre 11 godina

Land does not belong to people anyway, it is what happened on that land that is important.
(Ecoman, 28 June 2012 14:58)

Like this http://kosova.org/pics/nato/nato-juni-1999-a.jpg for example?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

you know what Ecoman, I am going to play devils advocate and say we're Turkic (of course it isn't true, but i will play along) and say...so what? really so what? let us see, Italians have a bigger historical claim to Kosova than Serbs do, they held it for longer and far earlier than you did. why don't we give this to Italy, the ones who had it usurped from?

Bridge

pre 11 godina

God will protect the Serbs. And he will not let evil prevail in this conflict. Albos days are numbered on our holy land.
(Steve B., 28 June 2012 15:33)

" Albos days are numbered on our holy land " oh no i'm so scared, please don't do nothing to us, please. 
* Cough cough *   Internet warrior.

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Not me, Official, I do not believe in bloodshed for any piece of land. Land does not belong to people anyway, it is what happened on that land that is important. I do not think that the Holy Father is making stuff up. There is certainly more valid evidence to his statements, than some cockamamy claim by the Albanians that Kosovo is theirs because Illyrians lived there, and then the Illyrians got tired of the name Illyrian and changed their name to Albanians, or something like that. Reeducate yourselves, Albanians, then you will not sound so ignorant. There is plenty of info out there as to where you came from. It wasn't Kosovo.
http://en.trend.az/news/society/2028489.html?#popupInfo

Official Kosovo Soil

pre 11 godina

(Ecoman, 28 June 2012 13:07)

He is doing that all by himself. But see you at your next crusade trying to retake "your Jerusalem".

Official Kosovo Soil

pre 11 godina

The holy Kosovo soil is ours and we must never lose sight of it,”

The Irish have sold this problem: http://www.auldsodgifts.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=3&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=37&vmcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=0

We could do the same and sell it you by the pound. Like this it will be forever yours for only 14.99 Euro per pound

Official Kosovo Soil

pre 11 godina

The holy Kosovo soil is ours and we must never lose sight of it,”

The Irish have sold this problem: http://www.auldsodgifts.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=3&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=37&vmcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=0

We could do the same and sell it you by the pound. Like this it will be forever yours for only 14.99 Euro per pound

Official Kosovo Soil

pre 11 godina

(Ecoman, 28 June 2012 13:07)

He is doing that all by himself. But see you at your next crusade trying to retake "your Jerusalem".

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Not me, Official, I do not believe in bloodshed for any piece of land. Land does not belong to people anyway, it is what happened on that land that is important. I do not think that the Holy Father is making stuff up. There is certainly more valid evidence to his statements, than some cockamamy claim by the Albanians that Kosovo is theirs because Illyrians lived there, and then the Illyrians got tired of the name Illyrian and changed their name to Albanians, or something like that. Reeducate yourselves, Albanians, then you will not sound so ignorant. There is plenty of info out there as to where you came from. It wasn't Kosovo.
http://en.trend.az/news/society/2028489.html?#popupInfo

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

you know what Ecoman, I am going to play devils advocate and say we're Turkic (of course it isn't true, but i will play along) and say...so what? really so what? let us see, Italians have a bigger historical claim to Kosova than Serbs do, they held it for longer and far earlier than you did. why don't we give this to Italy, the ones who had it usurped from?

Bridge

pre 11 godina

God will protect the Serbs. And he will not let evil prevail in this conflict. Albos days are numbered on our holy land.
(Steve B., 28 June 2012 15:33)

" Albos days are numbered on our holy land " oh no i'm so scared, please don't do nothing to us, please. 
* Cough cough *   Internet warrior.

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Because Italians are not trying to steal Kosovo for themselves, and cleanse it of all non-Italians, the Albanians are. They have wanted to steal this land for themselves for centuries, and cleanse it of all but Albanians. Serbians have proof of their heritage on the soil of Kosovo, Albanians do not. So cut all the crap about Romans, etc. Kosovo has no proof of Albanian heritage. What is it? Capire, comprendere?

Official Kosovo Soil

pre 11 godina

Land does not belong to people anyway, it is what happened on that land that is important.
(Ecoman, 28 June 2012 14:58)

Like this http://kosova.org/pics/nato/nato-juni-1999-a.jpg for example?

Reader

pre 11 godina

"Freedom is a gift from God" in reality means, "since I am God's emissary on earth, and freedom comes from my boss, I am the administrator of your freedom". That is the logical conclusion of that sentence.

Freedom is not a gift, padre. Freedom is something one just takes for himself. If you don't have it, you fight and take it. It does not come from God, it comes from Man. It is not taken away by God, it is taken away by Man.

boring!

pre 11 godina

God will protect the Serbs. And he will not let evil prevail in this conflict. Albos days are numbered on our holy land.
(Steve B., 28 June 2012 15:33)

And if not you will rule in heaven. Same old story repeated for the xth-time.

dori tirana

pre 11 godina

for all outsiders. The problem of kosova doesn't exist. We have only the probleme of this kind of religious man that seria has and the hypocrite and colionalist elite that serbia had and has. A religious man that inspire it's people for war . Puufff

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

The liturgy was attended by Serbian Ministry for Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović and Russian Ambassador to Belgrade Aleksandr Konuzin.

I can deal with these two. Oli is a Kosovar citizen, and Konuzin a foreign dignitary. What happened to Ivica? Will he ever be able to step a foot on Kosova soil??? I doubt it very much.

Adem

pre 11 godina

More fantasy from irelevant leader of serbs.
Kosovo is since 1389 land for Albanian and Bosniak people.
No future for Serbia in Kosovo since 1389 - fact of history.

Luli

pre 11 godina

"Freedom was a gift from God" it was not like that before 99 Pope, When you had all the power and thought you were the only god in Kosova.You forgot to explain to your people (if you ever learned) that when you are all the way on top must think for the bottom and now you are going there full speed without stoping

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Kosova has 91% Albanian populace...good enough. You stole it from Italians to begin with, right thing to do is return it back to them

truthiness

pre 11 godina

"Freedom is a gift from God,..."

I for one have no problem with this statement. However in order for the good patriarch to be taken seriouslly, his views must apply universally.

Where is his speech declaring "Freedom is a gift from God,.." for the people of Croatia.

Where is his speech declaring "Freedom is a gift from God,..." for the people in Bosnia

Where is his speech "Freedom is a gift from God,..." for the people of Kosovo.

Maybe , just maybe - if the SPC had applied this notion of freedom equally to all ethnic groups in the former Yugo - things may have ended somewhat differantly.

Something to ponder.

have a nice day

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold, not in your lifetime....
(Ivica dacic, 28 June 2012 16:29)

Sorry Iviqa Daqiq but your weak and feeble people don't get to decide in who's lifetime it shall be.

What important is its inevitable :)

L-pz

pre 11 godina

kick him out as soon as possible and never you are welcome , only thing left for you patriarch Irnej go to Jerusalem how much you want?

icj1

pre 11 godina

"The holy Kosovo soil is ours and we must never lose sight of it"

Interesting... didn't know that Miroslav or the people present were the owners of the land deeds of the entire Kosovo !

think about it

pre 11 godina

God will protect the Serbs. And he will not let evil prevail in this conflict. Albos days are numbered on our holy land.
(Steve B., 28 June 2012 15:33
One cannot preach hate 6 days a week and expect GOD's protection from self made enemies on the 7th. God's love is unconditional but his actions are not. God works in mysterious ways and sometimes things happen to cause you to change your ways.
Nowhere in any religion have I seen where Serbs were referred to as the "chosen people"!

Nora

pre 11 godina

Kosovo was never ‘Serbian Jerusalem’, as the scientist Noel Malcolm has argued: ‘Claims are still made today that Kosovo is the "Jerusalem" of the Serbs; but this has always been something of an exaggeration. In no form of Christianity, including eastern Orthodoxy, does a "holy place" play any sort of theological role equivalent to the role of Jerusalem in Judaism. The seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church was not founded in Kosovo; it merely moved there after its original foundation (in central Serbia) was burnt down’.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Nice job patriarch, you just fueled the fire...do you really think that soil is much more important than human lives?
(ilir, 28 June 2012 16:50)
=================================

But he IS thinking of human lives. For as long as KLA rules there, there is NO LIFE for Serbs or any other non Albanian.

Now, will you ask yourself the same question? Was land more important to KLA than lives? Why did they start this nightmare?

Official Kosovo Soil

pre 11 godina

The holy Kosovo soil is ours and we must never lose sight of it,”

The Irish have sold this problem: http://www.auldsodgifts.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=3&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=37&vmcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=0

We could do the same and sell it you by the pound. Like this it will be forever yours for only 14.99 Euro per pound

Adem

pre 11 godina

More fantasy from irelevant leader of serbs.
Kosovo is since 1389 land for Albanian and Bosniak people.
No future for Serbia in Kosovo since 1389 - fact of history.

Official Kosovo Soil

pre 11 godina

(Ecoman, 28 June 2012 13:07)

He is doing that all by himself. But see you at your next crusade trying to retake "your Jerusalem".

dori tirana

pre 11 godina

for all outsiders. The problem of kosova doesn't exist. We have only the probleme of this kind of religious man that seria has and the hypocrite and colionalist elite that serbia had and has. A religious man that inspire it's people for war . Puufff

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Not me, Official, I do not believe in bloodshed for any piece of land. Land does not belong to people anyway, it is what happened on that land that is important. I do not think that the Holy Father is making stuff up. There is certainly more valid evidence to his statements, than some cockamamy claim by the Albanians that Kosovo is theirs because Illyrians lived there, and then the Illyrians got tired of the name Illyrian and changed their name to Albanians, or something like that. Reeducate yourselves, Albanians, then you will not sound so ignorant. There is plenty of info out there as to where you came from. It wasn't Kosovo.
http://en.trend.az/news/society/2028489.html?#popupInfo

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

you know what Ecoman, I am going to play devils advocate and say we're Turkic (of course it isn't true, but i will play along) and say...so what? really so what? let us see, Italians have a bigger historical claim to Kosova than Serbs do, they held it for longer and far earlier than you did. why don't we give this to Italy, the ones who had it usurped from?

Bridge

pre 11 godina

God will protect the Serbs. And he will not let evil prevail in this conflict. Albos days are numbered on our holy land.
(Steve B., 28 June 2012 15:33)

" Albos days are numbered on our holy land " oh no i'm so scared, please don't do nothing to us, please. 
* Cough cough *   Internet warrior.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold, not in your lifetime....
(Ivica dacic, 28 June 2012 16:29)

Sorry Iviqa Daqiq but your weak and feeble people don't get to decide in who's lifetime it shall be.

What important is its inevitable :)

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

The liturgy was attended by Serbian Ministry for Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović and Russian Ambassador to Belgrade Aleksandr Konuzin.

I can deal with these two. Oli is a Kosovar citizen, and Konuzin a foreign dignitary. What happened to Ivica? Will he ever be able to step a foot on Kosova soil??? I doubt it very much.

Luli

pre 11 godina

"Freedom was a gift from God" it was not like that before 99 Pope, When you had all the power and thought you were the only god in Kosova.You forgot to explain to your people (if you ever learned) that when you are all the way on top must think for the bottom and now you are going there full speed without stoping

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Because Italians are not trying to steal Kosovo for themselves, and cleanse it of all non-Italians, the Albanians are. They have wanted to steal this land for themselves for centuries, and cleanse it of all but Albanians. Serbians have proof of their heritage on the soil of Kosovo, Albanians do not. So cut all the crap about Romans, etc. Kosovo has no proof of Albanian heritage. What is it? Capire, comprendere?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Kosova has 91% Albanian populace...good enough. You stole it from Italians to begin with, right thing to do is return it back to them

L-pz

pre 11 godina

kick him out as soon as possible and never you are welcome , only thing left for you patriarch Irnej go to Jerusalem how much you want?

Official Kosovo Soil

pre 11 godina

Land does not belong to people anyway, it is what happened on that land that is important.
(Ecoman, 28 June 2012 14:58)

Like this http://kosova.org/pics/nato/nato-juni-1999-a.jpg for example?

boring!

pre 11 godina

God will protect the Serbs. And he will not let evil prevail in this conflict. Albos days are numbered on our holy land.
(Steve B., 28 June 2012 15:33)

And if not you will rule in heaven. Same old story repeated for the xth-time.

truthiness

pre 11 godina

"Freedom is a gift from God,..."

I for one have no problem with this statement. However in order for the good patriarch to be taken seriouslly, his views must apply universally.

Where is his speech declaring "Freedom is a gift from God,.." for the people of Croatia.

Where is his speech declaring "Freedom is a gift from God,..." for the people in Bosnia

Where is his speech "Freedom is a gift from God,..." for the people of Kosovo.

Maybe , just maybe - if the SPC had applied this notion of freedom equally to all ethnic groups in the former Yugo - things may have ended somewhat differantly.

Something to ponder.

have a nice day

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Nice job patriarch, you just fueled the fire...do you really think that soil is much more important than human lives?
(ilir, 28 June 2012 16:50)
=================================

But he IS thinking of human lives. For as long as KLA rules there, there is NO LIFE for Serbs or any other non Albanian.

Now, will you ask yourself the same question? Was land more important to KLA than lives? Why did they start this nightmare?

Reader

pre 11 godina

"Freedom is a gift from God" in reality means, "since I am God's emissary on earth, and freedom comes from my boss, I am the administrator of your freedom". That is the logical conclusion of that sentence.

Freedom is not a gift, padre. Freedom is something one just takes for himself. If you don't have it, you fight and take it. It does not come from God, it comes from Man. It is not taken away by God, it is taken away by Man.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"The holy Kosovo soil is ours and we must never lose sight of it"

Interesting... didn't know that Miroslav or the people present were the owners of the land deeds of the entire Kosovo !

think about it

pre 11 godina

God will protect the Serbs. And he will not let evil prevail in this conflict. Albos days are numbered on our holy land.
(Steve B., 28 June 2012 15:33
One cannot preach hate 6 days a week and expect GOD's protection from self made enemies on the 7th. God's love is unconditional but his actions are not. God works in mysterious ways and sometimes things happen to cause you to change your ways.
Nowhere in any religion have I seen where Serbs were referred to as the "chosen people"!

Nora

pre 11 godina

Kosovo was never ‘Serbian Jerusalem’, as the scientist Noel Malcolm has argued: ‘Claims are still made today that Kosovo is the "Jerusalem" of the Serbs; but this has always been something of an exaggeration. In no form of Christianity, including eastern Orthodoxy, does a "holy place" play any sort of theological role equivalent to the role of Jerusalem in Judaism. The seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church was not founded in Kosovo; it merely moved there after its original foundation (in central Serbia) was burnt down’.