“No negotiations without implementation of footnote”

Nothing like a dose of Albanian sarcasm to start the day, thanks Nikolle. As for the footnote, everyone should look at the original agreement, and stick to what was agreed. I know the Kosovo Albanians are salivating at being equals in the Balkans, but they purely are not yet, if ever. Just because they declared to be independent, does not not make them that, regardless what the US and the EU say. In any case, it keeps the politicians, diplomats, and an endless sea of bureaucrats employed, unfortunately at the expense of people that simply want to be left alone and live in peace.

oh dear, baby throwing toys out of the pram already?

So that's why the impartial negotiators are pro Albanian, the Albanian side (did I say side I meant mafia) keep offering them a share of stolen Serbian assets. Makes sense. How much has Albright made out of Kosovo and her hug and kiss relationship with the organ trader?

when u read the original english agreement, which is the governing greemeent, it becomes very clear, that the asterics is all that is needed. in Par. 2 and 3 it spells it out. read it for yourself

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/pressroom.php?yyyy=2012&mm=02&nav_id=78973

It clearly says that 'KOSOVO*' will be the only denomination used, and the referece is only apllied, which means used, and not displayed.

it was clear all along, as I said here a few times before, and Stephanovic is just making a fool of himself by comming out now and making all these redicules claims agains Cooper. I guess we are just witnessing the end of his political career. No loss!!!

Nik- you should have an asterisk and a footnote that states your are a troll.

One minute we hear from sj and others here who say Kosovo has no resources and no way of surviving on their own. Then we here from Serbian politicians and again many on here how the western support is only due to the resources in Kosovo????
You think maybe some are willing to say ANYTHING to promote their side??

Nikolle, can you ever make a non-sarcastic comment? Just give it a try, and the pressure on your blood vessels will ease up. As for what the EU members that have recognized an independent Albanian Kosovo, who gives a rat's behind? Kosovo is not their land to give away. It is Serbian land, where Serbians have lived for centuries. I think the Serbs have a right to their fight to be independent also, don't you, Nikolle, especially when you consider that the authorities in Pristina are criminals and ex-terrorists in business suits? And before you start pointing fingers at Serbs and Djindjic's murder, you Albanians are pretty good in that category too. Who was that guy that got bumped off yesterday? Did he maybe step on Thaci's Italian shoes?

Kosova's immediate neighbors (bar one) (not to mention all bar 5 EU states) treat Kosova as a state - Nikolle
These friendly neighbors, as you put, are not the ones having their land stolen by Albanians from Albania, and the Western occupiers. Do you see the difference? If not, have one of your brothers explain it to you. They are great at interpreting UN resolutions to their liking too.

Now you have it in black and white. Belgrade is not seeing it correctly, and the asterics is all that is needed. Take it or leave it.

(Bill, 15 June 2012 11:45)

Haven't you realized by now that there is always a Serbian version that nobody except for them knows about? Either that or they are suffering from dyslexia.

Ecoman, its really amusing that you think my blood pressure needs easing up based on comments I read on b92 :-). you don't give a rats ass about what the EU says do you? well, that being the case, why do your officials go talk to them about the so called southern Serbian Province of Kosmet? seriously, you do give me a chuckle, but I shouldn't be too hard, after all, you're a US citizen and your country is very popular over here and for a very simple reason :-)

also, I've always loved this 'serbs have lived here for centuries' argument. what does that actually mean? you know what, Romans (The Italians happen to be their eirs) had control of Kosova and indeed Serbia for far longer much earlier than either Serbs or Albanians. why don't we give it to Italians? seems fair no?

Jeff

I wish I was a Serb? wow, I never knew that! not to worry, ajvar aside (indeed a brilliant relish) you have other contributions to be happy about, most of them are in the Hague right now :-)

Borislav is doing the right thing. Don't capitulate to these thugs. Cooper is full of it. This is a typical American government technique. You pretend fiction is reality and insist upon it so vigorously that others believe it's the truth. Serbs should have none of that. Cooper has his own self interest in mind; he is irrelevant.

But it is a footnote, so it should be in the footnotes as it is a footnote. Nameplates are plates with names on them.

Obviously Serbia doesn't understand the definition of a "footnote" and "nameplate".

(* Nikolle)

Happy Jeff :-) ?

ecoman...really you make it too easy for me. thing is this, Kosova's immediate neighbors (bar one) (not to mention all bar 5 EU states) treat Kosova as a state, its why Begrade has its knickers in a twist as such :-) however, to indulge Nikolic, if only for a bit, we'll admit that ajvar is a Serb creation

Nik- not really. The asterisk should be after your name and wheres the footnote. Ajvar is wonderful, we'll take it. Albania's gift to the world? Enver Hoxha and organ stealing. Go on, admit it, you wish you were Serb. I know Im happy Im not Albanian. Nothing personal.

Now you have it in black and white. Belgrade is not seeing it correctly, and the asterics is all that is needed. Take it or leave it.

Kosmet has a lot of natural resources. However, the so-called 'institutions' in Pristina are totally incapable of managing them adequately (being too preoccupied to bribe various international actors and filling their own personal pockets)- hence, the unsustainability outcome. Nothing particularly difficult to grasp here!

Nik-yes, the injustice knows no bounds. God willing your heroes will soon be joining them. Lets not compare Serbian contributions to society with Albanian please. I may actually start to feel sorry for you.

“The international diplomats that were acting like Cooper were usually later interested in oil shale, energy resources or telecommunication in Kosovo. He has discredited himself as a facilitator in the dialogue,” Stefanović added.

Look who is so proud standing next to "discredited" Cooper:
http://www.b92.net/news/pics/2012/06/14/11978256974fd9ab15824f4585963529_v4big.jpg

3. The footnote to be applied to the asterisk in para 2 above will read:

"This designation is without prejudice to positions on status, and is in line with UNSC 1244 and the ICJ Opinion on the Kosovo declaration of independence."

if the footnote was not meant to appear on the nameplate, where was it supposed to be? graffitied on the yellow house, or perhaps a desacrated monastary?

3. The footnote to be applied to the asterisk in para 2 above will read:

"This designation is without prejudice to positions on status, and is in line with UNSC 1244 and the ICJ Opinion on the Kosovo declaration of independence."

if the footnote was not meant to appear on the nameplate, where was it supposed to be? graffitied on the yellow house, or perhaps a desacrated monastary?
(stari, 15 June 2012 15:47)

The footnote should be in the fotenotes of an Agenda at a Conference or Summit along with all the other footnotes/ endnotes, thats where fotenotes are supposed to be. Quite simple if you think about it, considering it is in fact a footnote.

Either footnote or foot up your. . .

"But it is a footnote, so it should be in the footnotes as it is a footnote. Nameplates are plates with names on them. "
(Ian, UK, 15 June 2012 14:25)

A footnote is a footnote, which means it is placed on the footer(of a page in a book, for example). For me it's clear: So it's clear: In this case it must be placed on the footer of the nameplate. Where else?

Not so simple, and makes no sense bearing in mind the footnote is an asterisk and not a number. If you are using only *s for the footnote, how can you put them at the end with other footnotes without confusion?
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 June 2012 17:02)

Because in the Conference/ Summit agenda documents it will state countries X, Y, Z are present. Then when Kosovo is listed, an asterisk is included linking to the footnote.

I can't believe I've actually had to explain how footnotes work, then people start crying and saying its unfair because they don't want to have the footnote in the footnotes. I really don't understand this logic. Just like with the ICJ verdict, when everyone started whining saying it was unfair because the ICJ didn't answer the question which was never asked.

The footnote should be in the fotenotes of an Agenda at a Conference or Summit along with all the other footnotes/ endnotes, thats where fotenotes are supposed to be. Quite simple if you think about it, considering it is in fact a footnote.
(Ian, UK, 15 June 2012 16:11)

Not so simple, and makes no sense bearing in mind the footnote is an asterisk and not a number. If you are using only *s for the footnote, how can you put them at the end with other footnotes without confusion?

A footnote is a footnote, which means it is placed on the footer(of a page in a book, for example). For me it's clear: So it's clear: In this case it must be placed on the footer of the nameplate. Where else?
(Logical, 15 June 2012 15:53)

If it were meant for the footer of the nameplate, the agreement would have been much longer to include the technical specifications of the footnote (i.e. the color, size, etc.) otherwise Albanians may write Kosovo* in black in a white background nameplate and write the footnote in white and say it is there - it's your problem you can't read it LOL

A footnote is a footnote, which means it is placed on the footer(of a page in a book, for example). For me it's clear: So it's clear: In this case it must be placed on the footer of the nameplate. Where else?
(Logical, 15 June 2012 15:53)

It should be with all the other footnotes/ endnotes. So if Kosovo is to be represented at a regional Conference or Summit, the footnote should be in the Conference/ Summit Agenda footnotes aka the obvious place to have a footnote.

Kosova footnote should be placed in meetings with serbs and should clearly state how serbs lost kosovo. And that kosovo is the heartland of serbia where more serbs lived out of it rather than in it and everywhere where serbs dont live becomes their heartland and where serbs live in nothing more than just where serbs rather just happen to be. So now that serbs have lost their heartland who known they may lose their footnote with it. Serbs cant live without their heartland now they seem to have forgoten about it and just a footnote might just about do for the moment. it might give the edge of just about to swallow it. Or else Serbs woke out just as before.

Most of the people who posted here on this subject obviously never bothered to read the agreement, and just go on with their nationlostic propaganda war. Bill and Reader, besides me, seem to be one of the few one's that took a closer look at it. Maybe Stephonivic should have done that as well, because it is very clear, all spelled out, the footnote does not have to be displayed with the nameplate. Start seeing the reality, and all protests by Stephanovic and alike are useless.

Negotiating now has to take the Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic, because the Serbs have to know the truth of the negotiations.

To Ecoman:

I've agreed with practicaly every issue you've commented on and raised. Your opinions are well articulated and on the money. Keep up the fight brother!!!

Thank you Bill for that link from B92 with the text of the agreement, I was thinking of looking for it.

If one actually reads it, nowhere is the word 'nameplate' mentioned in it. Nowhere does it say what can or cannot be displayed. Just encouragement to not display any state symbols from any participants except the organizing state and EU. The text of the footnote is to appear in the signed documents, however. Here it is again, for those who skipped it:

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/pressroom.php?yyyy=2012&mm=02&nav_id=78973

Yes Ecoman, because Albanians run Macedonia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Croatia as well as most of the EU, Japan, America etc. We've been underestimated for a while. I will let you in on a secret, we run Serbia too :-)

Hahaha! This attempt of Stefanovic to refuse implementation of the agreement is old Serbian tactic. Stefanovic can say whatever he wants. The text of the agreement is there for everyone interested to see. The text clearly reads that Kosovo* is the only denomination to be used in regional meetings.
Even if Stefanovic's interpretation was true (which from the text is clearly not) the agreement itself violates the Constitution of Serbia according to which the representative of Serbia represents the country (to include Kosovo). With or without footnote Serbia has swallowed the hot potato and these Stefanovic's latest cries are for internal public and the diaspora forever deluded Serbs consumption.
As for Jeff's reminding on creativity, I agree: The word LIE and everything that follows it, is authentic Serbian invention.

Not so simple, and makes no sense bearing in mind the footnote is an asterisk and not a number. If you are using only *s for the footnote, how can you put them at the end with other footnotes without confusion?
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 June 2012 17:02)
Simple the first footnote would appear with * then each succeeding footnote would appear with the number that is associated in the text.

Yeah there was an agreement reached - Kosovo name plate with a footnote, simple as that. That's all you albanians had to do. The Serbian side always compromises whilst all you can do is say no.
(Goran., 16 June 2012 01:11
In this case Serbia "compromised" in order to gain candidate status and now has refused to honor their compromise.
do you really think they left that room with Serbia thinking one way and EU and Kosovo thinkin the other??

Kosovo does not exist as a state.
Not a UN member.
(moris, 16 June 2012 09:00)

I'm suprised to hear that Serbia started to exist as a state in 1945 and Switzerland started to exist as a state in 2003 and that Vatican is not a state !!!

So it says Kosovo should be designated as Kosovo*. That's simPle enough. Nameplates are for names only. In this case it means Kosovo*. The last point of that agreement says. 11. This is used for an interim basis. What's to stop the Kosovo authorities from saying the interim basis is over?

What you then celebrate with former President Tadic after the adoption of foot-note?

Kosovo does not exist as a state.
Not a UN member.
So footnote !

oh dear, baby throwing toys out of the pram already?

Nik- you should have an asterisk and a footnote that states your are a troll.

(* Nikolle)

Happy Jeff :-) ?

ecoman...really you make it too easy for me. thing is this, Kosova's immediate neighbors (bar one) (not to mention all bar 5 EU states) treat Kosova as a state, its why Begrade has its knickers in a twist as such :-) however, to indulge Nikolic, if only for a bit, we'll admit that ajvar is a Serb creation

Jeff

I wish I was a Serb? wow, I never knew that! not to worry, ajvar aside (indeed a brilliant relish) you have other contributions to be happy about, most of them are in the Hague right now :-)

Now you have it in black and white. Belgrade is not seeing it correctly, and the asterics is all that is needed. Take it or leave it.

So that's why the impartial negotiators are pro Albanian, the Albanian side (did I say side I meant mafia) keep offering them a share of stolen Serbian assets. Makes sense. How much has Albright made out of Kosovo and her hug and kiss relationship with the organ trader?

Ecoman, its really amusing that you think my blood pressure needs easing up based on comments I read on b92 :-). you don't give a rats ass about what the EU says do you? well, that being the case, why do your officials go talk to them about the so called southern Serbian Province of Kosmet? seriously, you do give me a chuckle, but I shouldn't be too hard, after all, you're a US citizen and your country is very popular over here and for a very simple reason :-)

also, I've always loved this 'serbs have lived here for centuries' argument. what does that actually mean? you know what, Romans (The Italians happen to be their eirs) had control of Kosova and indeed Serbia for far longer much earlier than either Serbs or Albanians. why don't we give it to Italians? seems fair no?

Nothing like a dose of Albanian sarcasm to start the day, thanks Nikolle. As for the footnote, everyone should look at the original agreement, and stick to what was agreed. I know the Kosovo Albanians are salivating at being equals in the Balkans, but they purely are not yet, if ever. Just because they declared to be independent, does not not make them that, regardless what the US and the EU say. In any case, it keeps the politicians, diplomats, and an endless sea of bureaucrats employed, unfortunately at the expense of people that simply want to be left alone and live in peace.

Now you have it in black and white. Belgrade is not seeing it correctly, and the asterics is all that is needed. Take it or leave it.

when u read the original english agreement, which is the governing greemeent, it becomes very clear, that the asterics is all that is needed. in Par. 2 and 3 it spells it out. read it for yourself

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/pressroom.php?yyyy=2012&mm=02&nav_id=78973

It clearly says that 'KOSOVO*' will be the only denomination used, and the referece is only apllied, which means used, and not displayed.

it was clear all along, as I said here a few times before, and Stephanovic is just making a fool of himself by comming out now and making all these redicules claims agains Cooper. I guess we are just witnessing the end of his political career. No loss!!!

Nikolle, can you ever make a non-sarcastic comment? Just give it a try, and the pressure on your blood vessels will ease up. As for what the EU members that have recognized an independent Albanian Kosovo, who gives a rat's behind? Kosovo is not their land to give away. It is Serbian land, where Serbians have lived for centuries. I think the Serbs have a right to their fight to be independent also, don't you, Nikolle, especially when you consider that the authorities in Pristina are criminals and ex-terrorists in business suits? And before you start pointing fingers at Serbs and Djindjic's murder, you Albanians are pretty good in that category too. Who was that guy that got bumped off yesterday? Did he maybe step on Thaci's Italian shoes?

Nik- not really. The asterisk should be after your name and wheres the footnote. Ajvar is wonderful, we'll take it. Albania's gift to the world? Enver Hoxha and organ stealing. Go on, admit it, you wish you were Serb. I know Im happy Im not Albanian. Nothing personal.

(Bill, 15 June 2012 11:45)

Haven't you realized by now that there is always a Serbian version that nobody except for them knows about? Either that or they are suffering from dyslexia.

Kosmet has a lot of natural resources. However, the so-called 'institutions' in Pristina are totally incapable of managing them adequately (being too preoccupied to bribe various international actors and filling their own personal pockets)- hence, the unsustainability outcome. Nothing particularly difficult to grasp here!

Borislav is doing the right thing. Don't capitulate to these thugs. Cooper is full of it. This is a typical American government technique. You pretend fiction is reality and insist upon it so vigorously that others believe it's the truth. Serbs should have none of that. Cooper has his own self interest in mind; he is irrelevant.

Nik-yes, the injustice knows no bounds. God willing your heroes will soon be joining them. Lets not compare Serbian contributions to society with Albanian please. I may actually start to feel sorry for you.

Kosova's immediate neighbors (bar one) (not to mention all bar 5 EU states) treat Kosova as a state - Nikolle
These friendly neighbors, as you put, are not the ones having their land stolen by Albanians from Albania, and the Western occupiers. Do you see the difference? If not, have one of your brothers explain it to you. They are great at interpreting UN resolutions to their liking too.

One minute we hear from sj and others here who say Kosovo has no resources and no way of surviving on their own. Then we here from Serbian politicians and again many on here how the western support is only due to the resources in Kosovo????
You think maybe some are willing to say ANYTHING to promote their side??

Kosova footnote should be placed in meetings with serbs and should clearly state how serbs lost kosovo. And that kosovo is the heartland of serbia where more serbs lived out of it rather than in it and everywhere where serbs dont live becomes their heartland and where serbs live in nothing more than just where serbs rather just happen to be. So now that serbs have lost their heartland who known they may lose their footnote with it. Serbs cant live without their heartland now they seem to have forgoten about it and just a footnote might just about do for the moment. it might give the edge of just about to swallow it. Or else Serbs woke out just as before.

But it is a footnote, so it should be in the footnotes as it is a footnote. Nameplates are plates with names on them.

Obviously Serbia doesn't understand the definition of a "footnote" and "nameplate".

3. The footnote to be applied to the asterisk in para 2 above will read:

"This designation is without prejudice to positions on status, and is in line with UNSC 1244 and the ICJ Opinion on the Kosovo declaration of independence."

if the footnote was not meant to appear on the nameplate, where was it supposed to be? graffitied on the yellow house, or perhaps a desacrated monastary?

"But it is a footnote, so it should be in the footnotes as it is a footnote. Nameplates are plates with names on them. "
(Ian, UK, 15 June 2012 14:25)

A footnote is a footnote, which means it is placed on the footer(of a page in a book, for example). For me it's clear: So it's clear: In this case it must be placed on the footer of the nameplate. Where else?

“The international diplomats that were acting like Cooper were usually later interested in oil shale, energy resources or telecommunication in Kosovo. He has discredited himself as a facilitator in the dialogue,” Stefanović added.

Look who is so proud standing next to "discredited" Cooper:
http://www.b92.net/news/pics/2012/06/14/11978256974fd9ab15824f4585963529_v4big.jpg

3. The footnote to be applied to the asterisk in para 2 above will read:

"This designation is without prejudice to positions on status, and is in line with UNSC 1244 and the ICJ Opinion on the Kosovo declaration of independence."

if the footnote was not meant to appear on the nameplate, where was it supposed to be? graffitied on the yellow house, or perhaps a desacrated monastary?
(stari, 15 June 2012 15:47)

The footnote should be in the fotenotes of an Agenda at a Conference or Summit along with all the other footnotes/ endnotes, thats where fotenotes are supposed to be. Quite simple if you think about it, considering it is in fact a footnote.

A footnote is a footnote, which means it is placed on the footer(of a page in a book, for example). For me it's clear: So it's clear: In this case it must be placed on the footer of the nameplate. Where else?
(Logical, 15 June 2012 15:53)

It should be with all the other footnotes/ endnotes. So if Kosovo is to be represented at a regional Conference or Summit, the footnote should be in the Conference/ Summit Agenda footnotes aka the obvious place to have a footnote.

To Ecoman:

I've agreed with practicaly every issue you've commented on and raised. Your opinions are well articulated and on the money. Keep up the fight brother!!!

The footnote should be in the fotenotes of an Agenda at a Conference or Summit along with all the other footnotes/ endnotes, thats where fotenotes are supposed to be. Quite simple if you think about it, considering it is in fact a footnote.
(Ian, UK, 15 June 2012 16:11)

Not so simple, and makes no sense bearing in mind the footnote is an asterisk and not a number. If you are using only *s for the footnote, how can you put them at the end with other footnotes without confusion?

Either footnote or foot up your. . .

Kosovo does not exist as a state.
Not a UN member.
So footnote !

Yes Ecoman, because Albanians run Macedonia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Croatia as well as most of the EU, Japan, America etc. We've been underestimated for a while. I will let you in on a secret, we run Serbia too :-)

Hahaha! This attempt of Stefanovic to refuse implementation of the agreement is old Serbian tactic. Stefanovic can say whatever he wants. The text of the agreement is there for everyone interested to see. The text clearly reads that Kosovo* is the only denomination to be used in regional meetings.
Even if Stefanovic's interpretation was true (which from the text is clearly not) the agreement itself violates the Constitution of Serbia according to which the representative of Serbia represents the country (to include Kosovo). With or without footnote Serbia has swallowed the hot potato and these Stefanovic's latest cries are for internal public and the diaspora forever deluded Serbs consumption.
As for Jeff's reminding on creativity, I agree: The word LIE and everything that follows it, is authentic Serbian invention.

Most of the people who posted here on this subject obviously never bothered to read the agreement, and just go on with their nationlostic propaganda war. Bill and Reader, besides me, seem to be one of the few one's that took a closer look at it. Maybe Stephonivic should have done that as well, because it is very clear, all spelled out, the footnote does not have to be displayed with the nameplate. Start seeing the reality, and all protests by Stephanovic and alike are useless.

Not so simple, and makes no sense bearing in mind the footnote is an asterisk and not a number. If you are using only *s for the footnote, how can you put them at the end with other footnotes without confusion?
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 June 2012 17:02)

Because in the Conference/ Summit agenda documents it will state countries X, Y, Z are present. Then when Kosovo is listed, an asterisk is included linking to the footnote.

I can't believe I've actually had to explain how footnotes work, then people start crying and saying its unfair because they don't want to have the footnote in the footnotes. I really don't understand this logic. Just like with the ICJ verdict, when everyone started whining saying it was unfair because the ICJ didn't answer the question which was never asked.

Yeah there was an agreement reached - Kosovo name plate with a footnote, simple as that. That's all you albanians had to do. The Serbian side always compromises whilst all you can do is say no.
(Goran., 16 June 2012 01:11
In this case Serbia "compromised" in order to gain candidate status and now has refused to honor their compromise.
do you really think they left that room with Serbia thinking one way and EU and Kosovo thinkin the other??

Negotiating now has to take the Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic, because the Serbs have to know the truth of the negotiations.

What you then celebrate with former President Tadic after the adoption of foot-note?

Thank you Bill for that link from B92 with the text of the agreement, I was thinking of looking for it.

If one actually reads it, nowhere is the word 'nameplate' mentioned in it. Nowhere does it say what can or cannot be displayed. Just encouragement to not display any state symbols from any participants except the organizing state and EU. The text of the footnote is to appear in the signed documents, however. Here it is again, for those who skipped it:

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/pressroom.php?yyyy=2012&mm=02&nav_id=78973

Not so simple, and makes no sense bearing in mind the footnote is an asterisk and not a number. If you are using only *s for the footnote, how can you put them at the end with other footnotes without confusion?
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 June 2012 17:02)
Simple the first footnote would appear with * then each succeeding footnote would appear with the number that is associated in the text.

A footnote is a footnote, which means it is placed on the footer(of a page in a book, for example). For me it's clear: So it's clear: In this case it must be placed on the footer of the nameplate. Where else?
(Logical, 15 June 2012 15:53)

If it were meant for the footer of the nameplate, the agreement would have been much longer to include the technical specifications of the footnote (i.e. the color, size, etc.) otherwise Albanians may write Kosovo* in black in a white background nameplate and write the footnote in white and say it is there - it's your problem you can't read it LOL

Kosovo does not exist as a state.
Not a UN member.
(moris, 16 June 2012 09:00)

I'm suprised to hear that Serbia started to exist as a state in 1945 and Switzerland started to exist as a state in 2003 and that Vatican is not a state !!!

So it says Kosovo should be designated as Kosovo*. That's simPle enough. Nameplates are for names only. In this case it means Kosovo*. The last point of that agreement says. 11. This is used for an interim basis. What's to stop the Kosovo authorities from saying the interim basis is over?