A monk of the Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC) was beaten up by two unidentified persons in southern part of Kosovska Mitrovica on Wednesday, Tanjug has learned.
Reading Albanian comments on here really allow me to witness first-hand the dark, twisted crevices of their psyches. They believe it just to openly attack a religious worker of another ethnicity, simply because of their political background?
I guess then these same Albanians in B92 would endorse a couple of Serb youths beating up Albanian bakers in Montenegro or Serbia simply because they are Albanian. Stay on your "turf" right?
Seriously are many (but not all) Albanians the type to engage in physical or deadly violence?? Most Kosovar- Albanians I've communicated with seem peaceful minded (if you will) but if necessary I recall meeting a couple of Kosovar-Albanian men in another part of my province 10-11 years ago where one of them at least used strong profanity (in English) when cursing the late Slobodan Milosevic. If necessary again and I'm not trying to be critical but when I viewed photos and You Tube videos of Albanians (even meeting a Kosovar-Albanian in real life) I noticed that many of them display what I call 'reservedly amused' facial expressions.What I mean is that I feel that their facial expression is a combination of being amused and serious and/or reserved where I sense that even if they are amused I'm still sensing that they have a reserved or serious personality.
It is only stupid Albanians in Kosova that tolerate such racists on their land. In any other country such racist Monks and any other reps of Serbian church would have been kicked out of that country with a nice kick in the a** many years ago..
(ben, 14 June 2012 00:25)
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How convenient. Let's all start destroying mosques in Serbia and bashing the imams there because no mosque has ever condemned terrorist attacks done by the Muslims around the world including Albanians.
How do you know what this monk thinks about anything.
The church has never sponsored any crimes but terrorist activities have been known to be hatched in mosques.
"It's not a state sponsored attack. "
(ItalianoAmericano, 13 June 2012 18:14)
No, it's not, but the climate of impunity for people who attack Serbs, throw stones or fire bullets at them created by the non-action and downplaying the accidents by the Kosovo officials and KPS makes it a state-tolerated attack, at least.
None of our societies are free, none of our people are free, we still live in the vague reflection of our past, we find chapters in history that give us some human value while we are treated like wild animals by the ''civilized'' world who take away our freedom and democracy. Our politicians and leaders use our deeply rooted hate, derived from propaganda and racism, to make us go to war with each other and sacrifice our sons and daughters, our towns and villages.
The extreme nationalism and plain racism that comes so naturally to the people of the Balkans is the reason why this monk was beaten down, and the explain our past wars and, im sure, the future ones. But I will never stand in the front line, killing other innocent men, nor should anyone who thinks of him-/herself as an enlightened, freedom loving, democratic and peaceful human being.
Sorry to tell you but that's exactly what you're doing - justifying it in the most passive way possible.
I am Serbian and even after reading all the usual Albanian troll comments on this post, I have got to say that yours is the most pathetic and non-sensical.
Whether monks are involved in politics or not is none of your business nor should it be a contributing factor to an assault.
As humans we develop in our societies with interest in how we are governed i.e. politics.
Get real if you think you can dictate who can have a say in politics and who cannot. What about the Vatican?
Religion and politics will forever be mixed because they have to coexist in society. They have to respect each other and they have to know one another so you're just foolish to say that they should "stay out" of it.
The lack of basic common sense on this forum sometimes amazes me.
(trizo, 13 June 2012 19:14)
Trizo,
I have already said that I do not agree with beating someone up because of ethnicity. However, everyone here is treating this as "extra bad" because it was a peaceful monk. If he was a peace-loving monk, who spends his life serving God and caring for all others and treating them equally, whether Serbian or Albanian, then yes, I agree it was even worse than if a normal Serbian citizen of Kosovo was beaten up.
However, since the Serbian Orthodox church acts as an extension of Serbia and spends its time speaking about politics, I am not surprised when it is targeted as the enemy.
Serbian church supported Milosevic's policies.
(Avni, 13 June 2012 17:10)
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Even if that were true, it doesn't justif what happened.
The Vatican not only supported but had thier priests and nuns engaged in killing of Serbs inside their churches during WW2. Does that mean that Serbs should've started bashing Catholic clergy from then on?
Why should a Monastery that has stood there for centuries anger anyone?
(Oliver Cromwell, 13 June 2012 19:06)
becaouse:
1. it never condemned the racists policies that their country Serbia was implementing for decades in Kosova in 80s-90s.
2. never condemned nor expressed regret of the state planned and executed attempt of DEPORTATION of the entire nation in Kosova.
For #1 had 30 years time to show sincere regret
For #2 has over 12 years time to condemn it and apologies in name of his children...
yet never did. On contrary it is the primary generator of the racist philosophy and policies of Serbia towards Kosova.
It is only stupid Albanians in Kosova that tolerate such racists on their land. In any other country such racist Monks and any other reps of Serbian church would have been kicked out of that country with a nice kick in the a** many years ago..
Some primitive individual wrote, "I'm sure the Serbs will let the monks stay hoping more of these attacks will happen and these religious men can be their political martyrs."
What a dumb, ignorant commeent. You would expect this kind of thinking from a third world counrty but not a person from the USA.
This American is just as bad as the ignorant and dumb individuals who would beat another human being because of his clothing.
of course this is wrong, but it's gonna happen. Mr. Monk is dressed the wrong way in the wrong part of town, he makes himself a target. It's not a state sponsored attack. Maybe it's time to move the monastery to where Serbs actually reside. I understand Serbs want to hold the ground but things like this will continue to happen, the monastery's presence angers the local K-Albanians. I'm sure the Serbs will let the monks stay hoping more of these attacks will happen and these religious men can be their political martyrs.
(ItalianoAmericano, 13 June 2012 18:14)
You know where you belong, Ukraine where gangs regularly beat up Muslims, Blacks, Asians and Albanians on a daily basis. See how you like it there becuase you need to be taught a tough lesson on tolerance. Why don't you try attacking a Monk in the Ukraine and see what happens to you?
Again, I am not justifying anyone beating anyone up, but I would think that the orthodox church would be treated as much more "untouchable" if they would quit muddling about in politics and started worrying about helping people.
(Glenn, 13 June 2012 18:10)
Sorry to tell you but that's exactly what you're doing - justifying it in the most passive way possible.
I am Serbian and even after reading all the usual Albanian troll comments on this post, I have got to say that yours is the most pathetic and non-sensical.
Whether monks are involved in politics or not is none of your business nor should it be a contributing factor to an assault.
As humans we develop in our societies with interest in how we are governed i.e. politics.
Get real if you think you can dictate who can have a say in politics and who cannot. What about the Vatican?
Religion and politics will forever be mixed because they have to coexist in society. They have to respect each other and they have to know one another so you're just foolish to say that they should "stay out" of it.
The lack of basic common sense on this forum sometimes amazes me.
of course this is wrong, but it's gonna happen. Mr. Monk is dressed the wrong way in the wrong part of town, he makes himself a target. It's not a state sponsored attack. Maybe it's time to move the monastery to where Serbs actually reside. I understand Serbs want to hold the ground but things like this will continue to happen, the monastery's presence angers the local K-Albanians. I'm sure the Serbs will let the monks stay hoping more of these attacks will happen and these religious men can be their political martyrs.
Serbian church supported Milosevic's policies.
(Avni, 13 June 2012 17:10)
I would never advocate beating anyone up for their race or religion, but know that some are less tolerant. However, you are absolutely correct that if the Serbian Orthodox church wishes to be treated like a church, and if monks are to be treated as holy people, then the Serbian Orthodox church needs to start acting Christ-like. This means that they must get out of politics completely, quit desecrating sacred events like Easter by talking about political problems instead of God, and treat everyone (Serbian and Albanian) as absolute equals, as they are in the sight of God.
Again, I am not justifying anyone beating anyone up, but I would think that the orthodox church would be treated as much more "untouchable" if they would quit muddling about in politics and started worrying about helping people.
"I understand Serbs want to hold the ground but things like this will continue to happen, the monastery's presence angers the local K-Albanians."
(ItalianoAmericano, 13 June 2012 18:14)
Yes, and presence of all the foreigners anger the native citizens, women without Burka and Christians anger the Muslims, homosexuals anger the Serbian nationalists, communists anger the right wing extremists, policemen anger the mafia clans, so let's eliminate them all to solve these problems, :)
BRIDGE - you do not want to encounter VS, even human shields, widely practiced by jihadists all overthe World, would not help you out and no one will believe in any of your lies aka Racak! UCK goons and drug-lords will be running fast back´to your motherland Albania where you all can live happy everly after!
It would seem that some of the readers here believe that either it is more acceptable for children to attack Serbian monks than Kosovarian police, or that the likelyhood of Serbian monks being attacked by children is higher than Kosovarian police being attacked by children.
I'm assuming the Count of ... was trying to be humourous (tongue in cheek style).
Wasn't it an Albanian here that said that the KPS officers were Serbian. In most cases, your clan doesn't have to try that hard to "play" dumb.
(Steve B., 13 June 2012 15:17)
If I was to respond in the same manner, my comment will not be posted.
By the way, we are waiting for your Police&VS.
(Kosova-USA, 13 June 2012 15:49)
BRIDGE - you do not want to encounter VS, even human shields, widely practiced by jihadists all overthe World, would not help you out and no one will believe in any of your lies aka Racak! UCK goons and drug-lords will be running fast back´to your motherland Albania where you all can live happy everly after!
Serbs here said that albanians shot the kosovo Police 2 days ago so i guess that serbs beat this poor monk.
You want to play dumb? We can do it.
(Bridge, 13 June 2012 13:27)
Wasn't it an Albanian here that said that the KPS officers were Serbian. In most cases, your clan doesn't have to try that hard to "play" dumb.
As I see the Alb. are not sleeping but what can you expect from them?Alwais creating conflicts with nomuslim peaceful people.They dream to implement Shariat/Muslim laws alover the Europe and US but Our time for revenge will come...
Silly kids.
kids will be kids.
it must be kids just having a little bit of unsupervized fun.
nothing here but kids doing what kids do.
oh yeah, those kids are just playing.
and i guess the kids are yuking it up adolecent style.
btw, did i mention it must have been kids?
So this was just kids? and if so this behaviour from kids is ok? IF it was kids, it just goes to show how their screwed up parents have brought them up to beat up defenceless people. There is no excuse for this what so ever. How about these people go take on an equally sized group of ordinary Serbs, somehow I think such a challenge would be too much for albanian thugs, they cant fight unless they outnumber their victims.
With every attack and assault, they only prove to the world that they are little more than savages. Whether the outside world reacts or not, as they invariably would if a imam was beaten up by Serbs, this kind of incident illustrates the deeply primitive nature of Albanian culture. Albanian community leaders do absolutely nothing to discourage or punish the malcontents within their own community. An assault like this reflects appallingly on their society.
Disgusting, a monk of all people probably the most peacful people in Kosovo. I don't hear of Muslim Imams being beaten up by Serbs anywhere, but then again I suspect the usual albanian trolls will be on here in no time to protect the actions of their relatives and try and suggest the monk somehow provoked it.
who has ever said monks are peaceful? ask a monk if i am going to heaven (a fierce atheist). they use fear of eternal damnation to take money from you. same for imams. as for this story, well, all it says here is he was beaten. it could easily have been a serb
Disgusting, a monk of all people probably the most peacful people in Kosovo. I don't hear of Muslim Imams being beaten up by Serbs anywhere, but then again I suspect the usual albanian trolls will be on here in no time to protect the actions of their relatives and try and suggest the monk somehow provoked it.
With every attack and assault, they only prove to the world that they are little more than savages. Whether the outside world reacts or not, as they invariably would if a imam was beaten up by Serbs, this kind of incident illustrates the deeply primitive nature of Albanian culture. Albanian community leaders do absolutely nothing to discourage or punish the malcontents within their own community. An assault like this reflects appallingly on their society.
Serbs here said that albanians shot the kosovo Police 2 days ago so i guess that serbs beat this poor monk.
You want to play dumb? We can do it.
(Bridge, 13 June 2012 13:27)
Wasn't it an Albanian here that said that the KPS officers were Serbian. In most cases, your clan doesn't have to try that hard to "play" dumb.
As I see the Alb. are not sleeping but what can you expect from them?Alwais creating conflicts with nomuslim peaceful people.They dream to implement Shariat/Muslim laws alover the Europe and US but Our time for revenge will come...
So this was just kids? and if so this behaviour from kids is ok? IF it was kids, it just goes to show how their screwed up parents have brought them up to beat up defenceless people. There is no excuse for this what so ever. How about these people go take on an equally sized group of ordinary Serbs, somehow I think such a challenge would be too much for albanian thugs, they cant fight unless they outnumber their victims.
Silly kids.
kids will be kids.
it must be kids just having a little bit of unsupervized fun.
nothing here but kids doing what kids do.
oh yeah, those kids are just playing.
and i guess the kids are yuking it up adolecent style.
btw, did i mention it must have been kids?
Some primitive individual wrote, "I'm sure the Serbs will let the monks stay hoping more of these attacks will happen and these religious men can be their political martyrs."
What a dumb, ignorant commeent. You would expect this kind of thinking from a third world counrty but not a person from the USA.
This American is just as bad as the ignorant and dumb individuals who would beat another human being because of his clothing.
Again, I am not justifying anyone beating anyone up, but I would think that the orthodox church would be treated as much more "untouchable" if they would quit muddling about in politics and started worrying about helping people.
(Glenn, 13 June 2012 18:10)
Sorry to tell you but that's exactly what you're doing - justifying it in the most passive way possible.
I am Serbian and even after reading all the usual Albanian troll comments on this post, I have got to say that yours is the most pathetic and non-sensical.
Whether monks are involved in politics or not is none of your business nor should it be a contributing factor to an assault.
As humans we develop in our societies with interest in how we are governed i.e. politics.
Get real if you think you can dictate who can have a say in politics and who cannot. What about the Vatican?
Religion and politics will forever be mixed because they have to coexist in society. They have to respect each other and they have to know one another so you're just foolish to say that they should "stay out" of it.
The lack of basic common sense on this forum sometimes amazes me.
of course this is wrong, but it's gonna happen. Mr. Monk is dressed the wrong way in the wrong part of town, he makes himself a target. It's not a state sponsored attack. Maybe it's time to move the monastery to where Serbs actually reside. I understand Serbs want to hold the ground but things like this will continue to happen, the monastery's presence angers the local K-Albanians. I'm sure the Serbs will let the monks stay hoping more of these attacks will happen and these religious men can be their political martyrs.
(ItalianoAmericano, 13 June 2012 18:14)
You know where you belong, Ukraine where gangs regularly beat up Muslims, Blacks, Asians and Albanians on a daily basis. See how you like it there becuase you need to be taught a tough lesson on tolerance. Why don't you try attacking a Monk in the Ukraine and see what happens to you?
who has ever said monks are peaceful? ask a monk if i am going to heaven (a fierce atheist). they use fear of eternal damnation to take money from you. same for imams. as for this story, well, all it says here is he was beaten. it could easily have been a serb
Serbian church supported Milosevic's policies.
(Avni, 13 June 2012 17:10)
I would never advocate beating anyone up for their race or religion, but know that some are less tolerant. However, you are absolutely correct that if the Serbian Orthodox church wishes to be treated like a church, and if monks are to be treated as holy people, then the Serbian Orthodox church needs to start acting Christ-like. This means that they must get out of politics completely, quit desecrating sacred events like Easter by talking about political problems instead of God, and treat everyone (Serbian and Albanian) as absolute equals, as they are in the sight of God.
Again, I am not justifying anyone beating anyone up, but I would think that the orthodox church would be treated as much more "untouchable" if they would quit muddling about in politics and started worrying about helping people.
"I understand Serbs want to hold the ground but things like this will continue to happen, the monastery's presence angers the local K-Albanians."
(ItalianoAmericano, 13 June 2012 18:14)
Yes, and presence of all the foreigners anger the native citizens, women without Burka and Christians anger the Muslims, homosexuals anger the Serbian nationalists, communists anger the right wing extremists, policemen anger the mafia clans, so let's eliminate them all to solve these problems, :)
If I was to respond in the same manner, my comment will not be posted.
By the way, we are waiting for your Police&VS.
(Kosova-USA, 13 June 2012 15:49)
BRIDGE - you do not want to encounter VS, even human shields, widely practiced by jihadists all overthe World, would not help you out and no one will believe in any of your lies aka Racak! UCK goons and drug-lords will be running fast back´to your motherland Albania where you all can live happy everly after!
It would seem that some of the readers here believe that either it is more acceptable for children to attack Serbian monks than Kosovarian police, or that the likelyhood of Serbian monks being attacked by children is higher than Kosovarian police being attacked by children.
I'm assuming the Count of ... was trying to be humourous (tongue in cheek style).
Wasn't it an Albanian here that said that the KPS officers were Serbian. In most cases, your clan doesn't have to try that hard to "play" dumb.
(Steve B., 13 June 2012 15:17)
BRIDGE - you do not want to encounter VS, even human shields, widely practiced by jihadists all overthe World, would not help you out and no one will believe in any of your lies aka Racak! UCK goons and drug-lords will be running fast back´to your motherland Albania where you all can live happy everly after!
of course this is wrong, but it's gonna happen. Mr. Monk is dressed the wrong way in the wrong part of town, he makes himself a target. It's not a state sponsored attack. Maybe it's time to move the monastery to where Serbs actually reside. I understand Serbs want to hold the ground but things like this will continue to happen, the monastery's presence angers the local K-Albanians. I'm sure the Serbs will let the monks stay hoping more of these attacks will happen and these religious men can be their political martyrs.
"It's not a state sponsored attack. "
(ItalianoAmericano, 13 June 2012 18:14)
No, it's not, but the climate of impunity for people who attack Serbs, throw stones or fire bullets at them created by the non-action and downplaying the accidents by the Kosovo officials and KPS makes it a state-tolerated attack, at least.
It is only stupid Albanians in Kosova that tolerate such racists on their land. In any other country such racist Monks and any other reps of Serbian church would have been kicked out of that country with a nice kick in the a** many years ago..
(ben, 14 June 2012 00:25)
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How convenient. Let's all start destroying mosques in Serbia and bashing the imams there because no mosque has ever condemned terrorist attacks done by the Muslims around the world including Albanians.
How do you know what this monk thinks about anything.
The church has never sponsored any crimes but terrorist activities have been known to be hatched in mosques.
Reading Albanian comments on here really allow me to witness first-hand the dark, twisted crevices of their psyches. They believe it just to openly attack a religious worker of another ethnicity, simply because of their political background?
I guess then these same Albanians in B92 would endorse a couple of Serb youths beating up Albanian bakers in Montenegro or Serbia simply because they are Albanian. Stay on your "turf" right?
Why should a Monastery that has stood there for centuries anger anyone?
(Oliver Cromwell, 13 June 2012 19:06)
becaouse:
1. it never condemned the racists policies that their country Serbia was implementing for decades in Kosova in 80s-90s.
2. never condemned nor expressed regret of the state planned and executed attempt of DEPORTATION of the entire nation in Kosova.
For #1 had 30 years time to show sincere regret
For #2 has over 12 years time to condemn it and apologies in name of his children...
yet never did. On contrary it is the primary generator of the racist philosophy and policies of Serbia towards Kosova.
It is only stupid Albanians in Kosova that tolerate such racists on their land. In any other country such racist Monks and any other reps of Serbian church would have been kicked out of that country with a nice kick in the a** many years ago..
Serbian church supported Milosevic's policies.
(Avni, 13 June 2012 17:10)
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Even if that were true, it doesn't justif what happened.
The Vatican not only supported but had thier priests and nuns engaged in killing of Serbs inside their churches during WW2. Does that mean that Serbs should've started bashing Catholic clergy from then on?
Sorry to tell you but that's exactly what you're doing - justifying it in the most passive way possible.
I am Serbian and even after reading all the usual Albanian troll comments on this post, I have got to say that yours is the most pathetic and non-sensical.
Whether monks are involved in politics or not is none of your business nor should it be a contributing factor to an assault.
As humans we develop in our societies with interest in how we are governed i.e. politics.
Get real if you think you can dictate who can have a say in politics and who cannot. What about the Vatican?
Religion and politics will forever be mixed because they have to coexist in society. They have to respect each other and they have to know one another so you're just foolish to say that they should "stay out" of it.
The lack of basic common sense on this forum sometimes amazes me.
(trizo, 13 June 2012 19:14)
Trizo,
I have already said that I do not agree with beating someone up because of ethnicity. However, everyone here is treating this as "extra bad" because it was a peaceful monk. If he was a peace-loving monk, who spends his life serving God and caring for all others and treating them equally, whether Serbian or Albanian, then yes, I agree it was even worse than if a normal Serbian citizen of Kosovo was beaten up.
However, since the Serbian Orthodox church acts as an extension of Serbia and spends its time speaking about politics, I am not surprised when it is targeted as the enemy.
None of our societies are free, none of our people are free, we still live in the vague reflection of our past, we find chapters in history that give us some human value while we are treated like wild animals by the ''civilized'' world who take away our freedom and democracy. Our politicians and leaders use our deeply rooted hate, derived from propaganda and racism, to make us go to war with each other and sacrifice our sons and daughters, our towns and villages.
The extreme nationalism and plain racism that comes so naturally to the people of the Balkans is the reason why this monk was beaten down, and the explain our past wars and, im sure, the future ones. But I will never stand in the front line, killing other innocent men, nor should anyone who thinks of him-/herself as an enlightened, freedom loving, democratic and peaceful human being.
Seriously are many (but not all) Albanians the type to engage in physical or deadly violence?? Most Kosovar- Albanians I've communicated with seem peaceful minded (if you will) but if necessary I recall meeting a couple of Kosovar-Albanian men in another part of my province 10-11 years ago where one of them at least used strong profanity (in English) when cursing the late Slobodan Milosevic. If necessary again and I'm not trying to be critical but when I viewed photos and You Tube videos of Albanians (even meeting a Kosovar-Albanian in real life) I noticed that many of them display what I call 'reservedly amused' facial expressions.What I mean is that I feel that their facial expression is a combination of being amused and serious and/or reserved where I sense that even if they are amused I'm still sensing that they have a reserved or serious personality.
who has ever said monks are peaceful? ask a monk if i am going to heaven (a fierce atheist). they use fear of eternal damnation to take money from you. same for imams. as for this story, well, all it says here is he was beaten. it could easily have been a serb
Serbian church supported Milosevic's policies.
(Avni, 13 June 2012 17:10)
I would never advocate beating anyone up for their race or religion, but know that some are less tolerant. However, you are absolutely correct that if the Serbian Orthodox church wishes to be treated like a church, and if monks are to be treated as holy people, then the Serbian Orthodox church needs to start acting Christ-like. This means that they must get out of politics completely, quit desecrating sacred events like Easter by talking about political problems instead of God, and treat everyone (Serbian and Albanian) as absolute equals, as they are in the sight of God.
Again, I am not justifying anyone beating anyone up, but I would think that the orthodox church would be treated as much more "untouchable" if they would quit muddling about in politics and started worrying about helping people.
Wasn't it an Albanian here that said that the KPS officers were Serbian. In most cases, your clan doesn't have to try that hard to "play" dumb.
(Steve B., 13 June 2012 15:17)
Disgusting, a monk of all people probably the most peacful people in Kosovo. I don't hear of Muslim Imams being beaten up by Serbs anywhere, but then again I suspect the usual albanian trolls will be on here in no time to protect the actions of their relatives and try and suggest the monk somehow provoked it.
of course this is wrong, but it's gonna happen. Mr. Monk is dressed the wrong way in the wrong part of town, he makes himself a target. It's not a state sponsored attack. Maybe it's time to move the monastery to where Serbs actually reside. I understand Serbs want to hold the ground but things like this will continue to happen, the monastery's presence angers the local K-Albanians. I'm sure the Serbs will let the monks stay hoping more of these attacks will happen and these religious men can be their political martyrs.
With every attack and assault, they only prove to the world that they are little more than savages. Whether the outside world reacts or not, as they invariably would if a imam was beaten up by Serbs, this kind of incident illustrates the deeply primitive nature of Albanian culture. Albanian community leaders do absolutely nothing to discourage or punish the malcontents within their own community. An assault like this reflects appallingly on their society.
Silly kids.
kids will be kids.
it must be kids just having a little bit of unsupervized fun.
nothing here but kids doing what kids do.
oh yeah, those kids are just playing.
and i guess the kids are yuking it up adolecent style.
btw, did i mention it must have been kids?
If I was to respond in the same manner, my comment will not be posted.
By the way, we are waiting for your Police&VS.
(Kosova-USA, 13 June 2012 15:49)
BRIDGE - you do not want to encounter VS, even human shields, widely practiced by jihadists all overthe World, would not help you out and no one will believe in any of your lies aka Racak! UCK goons and drug-lords will be running fast back´to your motherland Albania where you all can live happy everly after!
As I see the Alb. are not sleeping but what can you expect from them?Alwais creating conflicts with nomuslim peaceful people.They dream to implement Shariat/Muslim laws alover the Europe and US but Our time for revenge will come...
BRIDGE - you do not want to encounter VS, even human shields, widely practiced by jihadists all overthe World, would not help you out and no one will believe in any of your lies aka Racak! UCK goons and drug-lords will be running fast back´to your motherland Albania where you all can live happy everly after!
So this was just kids? and if so this behaviour from kids is ok? IF it was kids, it just goes to show how their screwed up parents have brought them up to beat up defenceless people. There is no excuse for this what so ever. How about these people go take on an equally sized group of ordinary Serbs, somehow I think such a challenge would be too much for albanian thugs, they cant fight unless they outnumber their victims.
Serbs here said that albanians shot the kosovo Police 2 days ago so i guess that serbs beat this poor monk.
You want to play dumb? We can do it.
(Bridge, 13 June 2012 13:27)
Wasn't it an Albanian here that said that the KPS officers were Serbian. In most cases, your clan doesn't have to try that hard to "play" dumb.
"I understand Serbs want to hold the ground but things like this will continue to happen, the monastery's presence angers the local K-Albanians."
(ItalianoAmericano, 13 June 2012 18:14)
Yes, and presence of all the foreigners anger the native citizens, women without Burka and Christians anger the Muslims, homosexuals anger the Serbian nationalists, communists anger the right wing extremists, policemen anger the mafia clans, so let's eliminate them all to solve these problems, :)
of course this is wrong, but it's gonna happen. Mr. Monk is dressed the wrong way in the wrong part of town, he makes himself a target. It's not a state sponsored attack. Maybe it's time to move the monastery to where Serbs actually reside. I understand Serbs want to hold the ground but things like this will continue to happen, the monastery's presence angers the local K-Albanians. I'm sure the Serbs will let the monks stay hoping more of these attacks will happen and these religious men can be their political martyrs.
(ItalianoAmericano, 13 June 2012 18:14)
You know where you belong, Ukraine where gangs regularly beat up Muslims, Blacks, Asians and Albanians on a daily basis. See how you like it there becuase you need to be taught a tough lesson on tolerance. Why don't you try attacking a Monk in the Ukraine and see what happens to you?
It would seem that some of the readers here believe that either it is more acceptable for children to attack Serbian monks than Kosovarian police, or that the likelyhood of Serbian monks being attacked by children is higher than Kosovarian police being attacked by children.
I'm assuming the Count of ... was trying to be humourous (tongue in cheek style).
Again, I am not justifying anyone beating anyone up, but I would think that the orthodox church would be treated as much more "untouchable" if they would quit muddling about in politics and started worrying about helping people.
(Glenn, 13 June 2012 18:10)
Sorry to tell you but that's exactly what you're doing - justifying it in the most passive way possible.
I am Serbian and even after reading all the usual Albanian troll comments on this post, I have got to say that yours is the most pathetic and non-sensical.
Whether monks are involved in politics or not is none of your business nor should it be a contributing factor to an assault.
As humans we develop in our societies with interest in how we are governed i.e. politics.
Get real if you think you can dictate who can have a say in politics and who cannot. What about the Vatican?
Religion and politics will forever be mixed because they have to coexist in society. They have to respect each other and they have to know one another so you're just foolish to say that they should "stay out" of it.
The lack of basic common sense on this forum sometimes amazes me.
Some primitive individual wrote, "I'm sure the Serbs will let the monks stay hoping more of these attacks will happen and these religious men can be their political martyrs."
What a dumb, ignorant commeent. You would expect this kind of thinking from a third world counrty but not a person from the USA.
This American is just as bad as the ignorant and dumb individuals who would beat another human being because of his clothing.
Why should a Monastery that has stood there for centuries anger anyone?
(Oliver Cromwell, 13 June 2012 19:06)
becaouse:
1. it never condemned the racists policies that their country Serbia was implementing for decades in Kosova in 80s-90s.
2. never condemned nor expressed regret of the state planned and executed attempt of DEPORTATION of the entire nation in Kosova.
For #1 had 30 years time to show sincere regret
For #2 has over 12 years time to condemn it and apologies in name of his children...
yet never did. On contrary it is the primary generator of the racist philosophy and policies of Serbia towards Kosova.
It is only stupid Albanians in Kosova that tolerate such racists on their land. In any other country such racist Monks and any other reps of Serbian church would have been kicked out of that country with a nice kick in the a** many years ago..
It is only stupid Albanians in Kosova that tolerate such racists on their land. In any other country such racist Monks and any other reps of Serbian church would have been kicked out of that country with a nice kick in the a** many years ago..
(ben, 14 June 2012 00:25)
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How convenient. Let's all start destroying mosques in Serbia and bashing the imams there because no mosque has ever condemned terrorist attacks done by the Muslims around the world including Albanians.
How do you know what this monk thinks about anything.
The church has never sponsored any crimes but terrorist activities have been known to be hatched in mosques.
Seriously are many (but not all) Albanians the type to engage in physical or deadly violence?? Most Kosovar- Albanians I've communicated with seem peaceful minded (if you will) but if necessary I recall meeting a couple of Kosovar-Albanian men in another part of my province 10-11 years ago where one of them at least used strong profanity (in English) when cursing the late Slobodan Milosevic. If necessary again and I'm not trying to be critical but when I viewed photos and You Tube videos of Albanians (even meeting a Kosovar-Albanian in real life) I noticed that many of them display what I call 'reservedly amused' facial expressions.What I mean is that I feel that their facial expression is a combination of being amused and serious and/or reserved where I sense that even if they are amused I'm still sensing that they have a reserved or serious personality.
Serbian church supported Milosevic's policies.
(Avni, 13 June 2012 17:10)
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Even if that were true, it doesn't justif what happened.
The Vatican not only supported but had thier priests and nuns engaged in killing of Serbs inside their churches during WW2. Does that mean that Serbs should've started bashing Catholic clergy from then on?
Sorry to tell you but that's exactly what you're doing - justifying it in the most passive way possible.
I am Serbian and even after reading all the usual Albanian troll comments on this post, I have got to say that yours is the most pathetic and non-sensical.
Whether monks are involved in politics or not is none of your business nor should it be a contributing factor to an assault.
As humans we develop in our societies with interest in how we are governed i.e. politics.
Get real if you think you can dictate who can have a say in politics and who cannot. What about the Vatican?
Religion and politics will forever be mixed because they have to coexist in society. They have to respect each other and they have to know one another so you're just foolish to say that they should "stay out" of it.
The lack of basic common sense on this forum sometimes amazes me.
(trizo, 13 June 2012 19:14)
Trizo,
I have already said that I do not agree with beating someone up because of ethnicity. However, everyone here is treating this as "extra bad" because it was a peaceful monk. If he was a peace-loving monk, who spends his life serving God and caring for all others and treating them equally, whether Serbian or Albanian, then yes, I agree it was even worse than if a normal Serbian citizen of Kosovo was beaten up.
However, since the Serbian Orthodox church acts as an extension of Serbia and spends its time speaking about politics, I am not surprised when it is targeted as the enemy.
None of our societies are free, none of our people are free, we still live in the vague reflection of our past, we find chapters in history that give us some human value while we are treated like wild animals by the ''civilized'' world who take away our freedom and democracy. Our politicians and leaders use our deeply rooted hate, derived from propaganda and racism, to make us go to war with each other and sacrifice our sons and daughters, our towns and villages.
The extreme nationalism and plain racism that comes so naturally to the people of the Balkans is the reason why this monk was beaten down, and the explain our past wars and, im sure, the future ones. But I will never stand in the front line, killing other innocent men, nor should anyone who thinks of him-/herself as an enlightened, freedom loving, democratic and peaceful human being.
"It's not a state sponsored attack. "
(ItalianoAmericano, 13 June 2012 18:14)
No, it's not, but the climate of impunity for people who attack Serbs, throw stones or fire bullets at them created by the non-action and downplaying the accidents by the Kosovo officials and KPS makes it a state-tolerated attack, at least.
Reading Albanian comments on here really allow me to witness first-hand the dark, twisted crevices of their psyches. They believe it just to openly attack a religious worker of another ethnicity, simply because of their political background?
I guess then these same Albanians in B92 would endorse a couple of Serb youths beating up Albanian bakers in Montenegro or Serbia simply because they are Albanian. Stay on your "turf" right?
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