U.S. Ambassador in Sarajevo says that if Bosnian politicians cannot find solutions themselves, there is a question whether the country is ready for NATO and EU.
Wow Peggy as if you Serbs have not done enough destruction but you accept more for it to happend in Bosnia. I'm so surprised but then again coming from a Serbian it's understandable.
And when you all finally realise that fact, as you inevitably must, you could well look and feel like utter fools. Believe me!
(TP, 27 May 2012 13:26)
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You're not telling me anything I don't already know. I know that the trouble was instigated away from Yugoslavia but it took hatred to allow it to flourish.
Someone exploited the fact that there was hatred there alredy.
My point is that Serbs were more than willing to live in brotherhood and unity. Serbs are not the ones who wanted to break up Yugoslavia, so you better address Croats and Muslims only.
If someone is arming themselves by smuggling weapons from Hungary like the Croats did in preparation for war how on earth can you blame the Serbs for defending themselves. Why do you think Croats armed themselves before any hint of war? They wanted it and you can't expect Serbs to just stand there and take it.
Same goes for Bosnia. The Muslims wanted it all. When Izetbegovic wanted to sign an agreement the US told him not to, so it went on and on.
Brotherhood and unity was always a good thought for the Serbs but not for anyone else. Croats wanted to start trouble even back in the 70s, or didn't you know that? I provided a link about that some time ago.
So don't call the Serbs stupid. They genuinely wanted Yugoslavia.
Peggy, I am a Serb, not a Croat. I support the Croat quest for their own entity in BiH because I believe that their home state has abandoned them in favor of total EU obedience,
=================================
I really don't care what their state has done for them because they are the people who killed our people and joined the Muslims. They get no sympathy from me.
I can see your point on destabilizing Bosnia by Croats doing the dirty work now so that I could accept.
Would you suggest the same for KAlbanians who don't like Serbia? Should they go their way to Albania?
(aaayyy, 27 May 2012 12:32)
========================
No, he wouldn't because his brothers are special.
"If that is what you wanted why didn't you fight for it the same time Serbs fought for what they have?
Why did you join the Muslims?"
Peggy, I am a Serb, not a Croat. I support the Croat quest for their own entity in BiH because I believe that their home state has abandoned them in favor of total EU obedience, and because it would help reduce the hold the Sarajevans have in the country. Anything that destabilizes the territorial integrity of the fake Bosnian state is good for me.
'If that is what you wanted why didn't you fight for it the same time Serbs fought for what they have?
Why did you join the Muslims?'
(Peggy)
Or better, still, why fight at all since there are absolutely no ethnic and linguistic differences between Serbs, Croats and Bosnian Muslims, as well as fewer cultural distinctions than between different parts of, say, England, Germany or France.
This puerile and embarrassing hatred between Yugoslavs of the Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim faiths has its source in places far away from Yugoslavia itself, and was manufactured by people who will never, ever be your true friends, however much they pretend otherwise.
And when you all finally realise that fact, as you inevitably must, you could well look and feel like utter fools. Believe me!
"Let three people go their own way". I agree.........Serbs who don't like Bosnia can go on their own way to Serbia; it's north and east, and Croats can go their own way to Croatia; it's south and west. I've got a map if you need one.
(Ned Taylor, 26 May 2012 19:50)
Would you suggest the same for KAlbanians who don't like Serbia? Should they go their way to Albania?
I wholeheartedly support the formation of a third entity for our Croat brothers in BiH who desire to get out from under the Muslims. Why shouldn't all constituent peoples get their own entities?
==================================
If that is what you wanted why didn't you fight for it the same time Serbs fought for what they have?
Why did you join the Muslims?
"U.S. Ambassador to Bosnia-Herzegovina Patrick Moon has criticized the Bosnia-Herzegovina politicians, pointing out that they have to realize that in democratic societies they were responsible for finding solutions."
You're right, Ambassador Moonie. Democratic societies are responsible for finding solutions. So when is your government going to reduce its 16 trillion dollar debt? Notice I didn't say pay off the debt; your government has already made that impossible; I just asked when is your government going to make the debt clock move backwards? I see the eurotrash politicians criticizing the Greeks for not paying their taxes. Where do you think the Greeks learned that behavior? They learned it from the biggest deadbeats in world history - the usa
Hurry where's that troll lenard to tell us about the 'fictitious' Republika Srpska (lets not forget what he says after that) aka greater Serbia...
I don't even know what the hell that means. Is he supposed to be hurting our feelings with that...these guys gotta get girlfriends or lives real soon because I don't see Serbs going on Croat and Albanian sites saying a damn thing.
As for Bosnia, ya the nail has been hammered in that coffin a while ago.
I wholeheartedly support the formation of a third entity for our Croat brothers in BiH who desire to get out from under the Muslims. Why shouldn't all constituent peoples get their own entities? I say that the Prud agreement from 2008 should be reexamined, or some other similar rearrangement of territory or else BiH will soon find itself a de jure fractured state split up into ethnic-majority territories anyways.
"Let three people go their own way". I agree.........Serbs who don't like Bosnia can go on their own way to Serbia; it's north and east, and Croats can go their own way to Croatia; it's south and west. I've got a map if you need one.
Mr Moon please get back to Earth and than realize yourself (change your position) that Bosna and Hercegovina is NOT a country and will never be. Let 3 people go their own way and we will ALL live much better in the Bankans.
What's the point of creating a third entity in a country where these entities killed each other not so long ago.
Maybe the thing to do is let Srpska join Serbia, the Croats join Croatia and the Bosniaks can have their own country and stop all the fingerpointing.
“They cannot just stand there and say – I won’t change my position,” Moon stressed.'
Yes they can, because you are a crumbling empire with little power to do anything about it any more. Your salary, Mr. Moon, is paid by borrowed money from China, so sit down and shut up. You're a nobody, full of hubris and self importance, which is part of a bygone era. Say hi to Vlad, the new sherif in town.
Cheers!!
“They cannot just stand there and say – I won’t change my position,” Moon stressed.'
Yes they can, because you are a crumbling empire with little power to do anything about it any more. Your salary, Mr. Moon, is paid by borrowed money from China, so sit down and shut up. You're a nobody, full of hubris and self importance, which is part of a bygone era. Say hi to Vlad, the new sherif in town.
Cheers!!
Hurry where's that troll lenard to tell us about the 'fictitious' Republika Srpska (lets not forget what he says after that) aka greater Serbia...
I don't even know what the hell that means. Is he supposed to be hurting our feelings with that...these guys gotta get girlfriends or lives real soon because I don't see Serbs going on Croat and Albanian sites saying a damn thing.
As for Bosnia, ya the nail has been hammered in that coffin a while ago.
What's the point of creating a third entity in a country where these entities killed each other not so long ago.
Maybe the thing to do is let Srpska join Serbia, the Croats join Croatia and the Bosniaks can have their own country and stop all the fingerpointing.
Mr Moon please get back to Earth and than realize yourself (change your position) that Bosna and Hercegovina is NOT a country and will never be. Let 3 people go their own way and we will ALL live much better in the Bankans.
I wholeheartedly support the formation of a third entity for our Croat brothers in BiH who desire to get out from under the Muslims. Why shouldn't all constituent peoples get their own entities? I say that the Prud agreement from 2008 should be reexamined, or some other similar rearrangement of territory or else BiH will soon find itself a de jure fractured state split up into ethnic-majority territories anyways.
"U.S. Ambassador to Bosnia-Herzegovina Patrick Moon has criticized the Bosnia-Herzegovina politicians, pointing out that they have to realize that in democratic societies they were responsible for finding solutions."
You're right, Ambassador Moonie. Democratic societies are responsible for finding solutions. So when is your government going to reduce its 16 trillion dollar debt? Notice I didn't say pay off the debt; your government has already made that impossible; I just asked when is your government going to make the debt clock move backwards? I see the eurotrash politicians criticizing the Greeks for not paying their taxes. Where do you think the Greeks learned that behavior? They learned it from the biggest deadbeats in world history - the usa
I wholeheartedly support the formation of a third entity for our Croat brothers in BiH who desire to get out from under the Muslims. Why shouldn't all constituent peoples get their own entities?
==================================
If that is what you wanted why didn't you fight for it the same time Serbs fought for what they have?
Why did you join the Muslims?
"Let three people go their own way". I agree.........Serbs who don't like Bosnia can go on their own way to Serbia; it's north and east, and Croats can go their own way to Croatia; it's south and west. I've got a map if you need one.
(Ned Taylor, 26 May 2012 19:50)
Would you suggest the same for KAlbanians who don't like Serbia? Should they go their way to Albania?
"Let three people go their own way". I agree.........Serbs who don't like Bosnia can go on their own way to Serbia; it's north and east, and Croats can go their own way to Croatia; it's south and west. I've got a map if you need one.
"If that is what you wanted why didn't you fight for it the same time Serbs fought for what they have?
Why did you join the Muslims?"
Peggy, I am a Serb, not a Croat. I support the Croat quest for their own entity in BiH because I believe that their home state has abandoned them in favor of total EU obedience, and because it would help reduce the hold the Sarajevans have in the country. Anything that destabilizes the territorial integrity of the fake Bosnian state is good for me.
'If that is what you wanted why didn't you fight for it the same time Serbs fought for what they have?
Why did you join the Muslims?'
(Peggy)
Or better, still, why fight at all since there are absolutely no ethnic and linguistic differences between Serbs, Croats and Bosnian Muslims, as well as fewer cultural distinctions than between different parts of, say, England, Germany or France.
This puerile and embarrassing hatred between Yugoslavs of the Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim faiths has its source in places far away from Yugoslavia itself, and was manufactured by people who will never, ever be your true friends, however much they pretend otherwise.
And when you all finally realise that fact, as you inevitably must, you could well look and feel like utter fools. Believe me!
And when you all finally realise that fact, as you inevitably must, you could well look and feel like utter fools. Believe me!
(TP, 27 May 2012 13:26)
==========================
You're not telling me anything I don't already know. I know that the trouble was instigated away from Yugoslavia but it took hatred to allow it to flourish.
Someone exploited the fact that there was hatred there alredy.
My point is that Serbs were more than willing to live in brotherhood and unity. Serbs are not the ones who wanted to break up Yugoslavia, so you better address Croats and Muslims only.
If someone is arming themselves by smuggling weapons from Hungary like the Croats did in preparation for war how on earth can you blame the Serbs for defending themselves. Why do you think Croats armed themselves before any hint of war? They wanted it and you can't expect Serbs to just stand there and take it.
Same goes for Bosnia. The Muslims wanted it all. When Izetbegovic wanted to sign an agreement the US told him not to, so it went on and on.
Brotherhood and unity was always a good thought for the Serbs but not for anyone else. Croats wanted to start trouble even back in the 70s, or didn't you know that? I provided a link about that some time ago.
So don't call the Serbs stupid. They genuinely wanted Yugoslavia.
Peggy, I am a Serb, not a Croat. I support the Croat quest for their own entity in BiH because I believe that their home state has abandoned them in favor of total EU obedience,
=================================
I really don't care what their state has done for them because they are the people who killed our people and joined the Muslims. They get no sympathy from me.
I can see your point on destabilizing Bosnia by Croats doing the dirty work now so that I could accept.
Would you suggest the same for KAlbanians who don't like Serbia? Should they go their way to Albania?
(aaayyy, 27 May 2012 12:32)
========================
No, he wouldn't because his brothers are special.
Wow Peggy as if you Serbs have not done enough destruction but you accept more for it to happend in Bosnia. I'm so surprised but then again coming from a Serbian it's understandable.
"Let three people go their own way". I agree.........Serbs who don't like Bosnia can go on their own way to Serbia; it's north and east, and Croats can go their own way to Croatia; it's south and west. I've got a map if you need one.
“They cannot just stand there and say – I won’t change my position,” Moon stressed.'
Yes they can, because you are a crumbling empire with little power to do anything about it any more. Your salary, Mr. Moon, is paid by borrowed money from China, so sit down and shut up. You're a nobody, full of hubris and self importance, which is part of a bygone era. Say hi to Vlad, the new sherif in town.
Cheers!!
What's the point of creating a third entity in a country where these entities killed each other not so long ago.
Maybe the thing to do is let Srpska join Serbia, the Croats join Croatia and the Bosniaks can have their own country and stop all the fingerpointing.
I wholeheartedly support the formation of a third entity for our Croat brothers in BiH who desire to get out from under the Muslims. Why shouldn't all constituent peoples get their own entities? I say that the Prud agreement from 2008 should be reexamined, or some other similar rearrangement of territory or else BiH will soon find itself a de jure fractured state split up into ethnic-majority territories anyways.
Mr Moon please get back to Earth and than realize yourself (change your position) that Bosna and Hercegovina is NOT a country and will never be. Let 3 people go their own way and we will ALL live much better in the Bankans.
"U.S. Ambassador to Bosnia-Herzegovina Patrick Moon has criticized the Bosnia-Herzegovina politicians, pointing out that they have to realize that in democratic societies they were responsible for finding solutions."
You're right, Ambassador Moonie. Democratic societies are responsible for finding solutions. So when is your government going to reduce its 16 trillion dollar debt? Notice I didn't say pay off the debt; your government has already made that impossible; I just asked when is your government going to make the debt clock move backwards? I see the eurotrash politicians criticizing the Greeks for not paying their taxes. Where do you think the Greeks learned that behavior? They learned it from the biggest deadbeats in world history - the usa
Hurry where's that troll lenard to tell us about the 'fictitious' Republika Srpska (lets not forget what he says after that) aka greater Serbia...
I don't even know what the hell that means. Is he supposed to be hurting our feelings with that...these guys gotta get girlfriends or lives real soon because I don't see Serbs going on Croat and Albanian sites saying a damn thing.
As for Bosnia, ya the nail has been hammered in that coffin a while ago.
'If that is what you wanted why didn't you fight for it the same time Serbs fought for what they have?
Why did you join the Muslims?'
(Peggy)
Or better, still, why fight at all since there are absolutely no ethnic and linguistic differences between Serbs, Croats and Bosnian Muslims, as well as fewer cultural distinctions than between different parts of, say, England, Germany or France.
This puerile and embarrassing hatred between Yugoslavs of the Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim faiths has its source in places far away from Yugoslavia itself, and was manufactured by people who will never, ever be your true friends, however much they pretend otherwise.
And when you all finally realise that fact, as you inevitably must, you could well look and feel like utter fools. Believe me!
"If that is what you wanted why didn't you fight for it the same time Serbs fought for what they have?
Why did you join the Muslims?"
Peggy, I am a Serb, not a Croat. I support the Croat quest for their own entity in BiH because I believe that their home state has abandoned them in favor of total EU obedience, and because it would help reduce the hold the Sarajevans have in the country. Anything that destabilizes the territorial integrity of the fake Bosnian state is good for me.
I wholeheartedly support the formation of a third entity for our Croat brothers in BiH who desire to get out from under the Muslims. Why shouldn't all constituent peoples get their own entities?
==================================
If that is what you wanted why didn't you fight for it the same time Serbs fought for what they have?
Why did you join the Muslims?
"Let three people go their own way". I agree.........Serbs who don't like Bosnia can go on their own way to Serbia; it's north and east, and Croats can go their own way to Croatia; it's south and west. I've got a map if you need one.
(Ned Taylor, 26 May 2012 19:50)
Would you suggest the same for KAlbanians who don't like Serbia? Should they go their way to Albania?
And when you all finally realise that fact, as you inevitably must, you could well look and feel like utter fools. Believe me!
(TP, 27 May 2012 13:26)
==========================
You're not telling me anything I don't already know. I know that the trouble was instigated away from Yugoslavia but it took hatred to allow it to flourish.
Someone exploited the fact that there was hatred there alredy.
My point is that Serbs were more than willing to live in brotherhood and unity. Serbs are not the ones who wanted to break up Yugoslavia, so you better address Croats and Muslims only.
If someone is arming themselves by smuggling weapons from Hungary like the Croats did in preparation for war how on earth can you blame the Serbs for defending themselves. Why do you think Croats armed themselves before any hint of war? They wanted it and you can't expect Serbs to just stand there and take it.
Same goes for Bosnia. The Muslims wanted it all. When Izetbegovic wanted to sign an agreement the US told him not to, so it went on and on.
Brotherhood and unity was always a good thought for the Serbs but not for anyone else. Croats wanted to start trouble even back in the 70s, or didn't you know that? I provided a link about that some time ago.
So don't call the Serbs stupid. They genuinely wanted Yugoslavia.
Peggy, I am a Serb, not a Croat. I support the Croat quest for their own entity in BiH because I believe that their home state has abandoned them in favor of total EU obedience,
=================================
I really don't care what their state has done for them because they are the people who killed our people and joined the Muslims. They get no sympathy from me.
I can see your point on destabilizing Bosnia by Croats doing the dirty work now so that I could accept.
Would you suggest the same for KAlbanians who don't like Serbia? Should they go their way to Albania?
(aaayyy, 27 May 2012 12:32)
========================
No, he wouldn't because his brothers are special.
Wow Peggy as if you Serbs have not done enough destruction but you accept more for it to happend in Bosnia. I'm so surprised but then again coming from a Serbian it's understandable.
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