FIFA suspends its decision on Kosovo

Another epic albanian fail!

another lie and dirty propaganda from serb media for internal consumption.
(Agim Kelmendi, 25 May 2012 21:05)

Denial is a serious disease. In this globalized world where information gets anywhere, what good would it do to print a blatant lie? Besides most of Serbia's media is owned by German and Austrian conglomerates and don't even bother to print news in Serbian Cyrillic in their desperate attempt to appear Western.

Football result: Serbia 1 Organ Traffickers 0

another lie and dirty propaganda from serb media for internal consumption.

The Olympic Committee was even more specific:

"Judo fighter Majlinda Kelmendi has been told she cannot compete for Kosovo at this summer's Olympics.

Although Kosovo declared independence from Serbia four years ago, it is not formally recognised as a nation by the International Olympic Committee (IOC).

The IOC also turned down Kelmendi's request to compete as an independent athlete and she will now represent Albania at London 2012."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18205297

I believe the FSS President is not Tomislav Nikolić, but is instead Tomislav Karadžić.

Fake news. FIFA didn't suspend anything!

Kosovo is a province of Serbia. therefore it cannot play in FIFA unless Serbia allows them to do so.

Dear Fifa please respect the territorial integrity and sovereighty of Serbia.

I suggest to all non-believers to check the official web site of FIFA, and the truth will set you free. No suspension of decisions has taken place.

No no no FIFA has not suspended its decision to allow Kosovo to play friendly matches.

The last paragraph of a letter from FIFA to FA Serbia http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/news/newsid=1636970/:

"As discussed today in Budapest, we would like to invite you to a meeting at the home of FIFA in Zurich on 31 May 2012 at 13 hours (1 pm), together with representative of the UEFA. In this meeting we will be able to discuss the implications of the decision and the modalities of its implementation. The conclusions of our meeting will then be submitted to the extraordinary meeting of the FIFA Executive Committee which is planned for 4 July 2012."

'implications of the decision and the modalities of its implementation' - doesn't sound like they planning on changing anything, to me.

The IOC also turned down Kelmendi's request to compete as an independent athlete and she will now represent Albania at London 2012."
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Does that mean she has an Albanian citizenship? Is she one of those border jumpers from Albania?

Let's get the team names right Ari Gold: Ethnic Cleansers 1 Organ Traffickers 0, although it's still only half time. My money's on a second half comeback and an OTFC win on penalties.

Kosovo is a case sui generis - so no rules apply for it, and that's why it's a lawless place.

Joking aside, how is it possible that a FIFA president ignores all rules members have to fulfill and allows a self-proclaimed pseudo-state to participate?

"Exactly, you got the point... The more intransigent Serbia is, less likely it becomes for Kosovo to ask to become a part of Serbia and more likely it becomes for Kosovo to ask Albania to become a part of Albania and all of these issues are resolved and peace will be established in the Balkans as there are no longer memberships/conference attendance issues to argue about :)"
(icj1, 26 May 2012 04:10)

Even more likely is this scenario: Just like Serbs in Kosovo keep/have/apply for Serbian citizenship, more and more Albanians in Kosovo realize that it makes more sense to be a citizen of a real state and apply for Albanian citizenship. In the end, there's the independent dream state of Kosovo - but unfortunately, without citizens - problem solved as well.

P.S: In the case of Miss Kelmendi, the Judoka: She already participated in international championships for Albania, she has Albanian citizenship, and so no wonder that the IOC neither allows her to participate for the non-recognized pseudo-state of Kosovo nor as a 'independent athlete' under the Olympic flag.

Another epic albanian fail!
(Total, 25 May 2012 21:02)

Wrong, it is pending and may likely kick in any time soon.

But it is an epic example why Serbs will need barbwire in Kosovo (better you tripple it now), because it is Serbs who makes the situation tense. If you slap, you get slapped back. Easy to understand, especially in the Balkans

Joking aside, how is it possible that a FIFA president ignores all rules members have to fulfill and allows a self-proclaimed pseudo-state to participate?
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 May 2012 08:21)

You mean the rules written by B92 ? Because he did not ignore anything written in FIFA’s statute…
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Even more likely is this scenario: Just like Serbs in Kosovo keep/have/apply for Serbian citizenship, more and more Albanians in Kosovo realize that it makes more sense to be a citizen of a real state and apply for Albanian citizenship. In the end, there's the independent dream state of Kosovo - but unfortunately, without citizens - problem solved as well.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 May 2012 08:21)

Exactly… north Kosovo becomes part of Serbia and the rest part of Albania and problem solved.
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Dear Fifa please respect the territorial integrity and sovereighty of Serbia.
(PRO-SERBIA, 26 May 2012 14:17)

You got it wrong, dear. The only thing that FIFA is bound to respect is the FIFA statute – it doesn’t give a hoot about the sovereignty of Serbia, Albania, Kosovo or anybody else.
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I suggest to all non-believers to check the official web site of FIFA, and the truth will set you free. No suspension of decisions has taken place.
(Agim Kelmendi, 26 May 2012 17:04)

Why are you so cruel to interrupt the joy of people by asking them to see the truth? They like what B92 tells them, so let them enjoy – who cares about the truth :)

FIFA, UEFA, OIC and the entire world WANTS natural Albania.

Kosova is fake country. Kosova is justg another Albanian province just as it is Dukagjini, Mirdita, Laberia.

So if Majlinda wants to compete she should be proud and feel privileged to compete under the beautiful two head black eagle. So goes for every other sportsmen in the northern Albanian province of Kosova and parts of Dukagjin formerly occupied by southern Slavs.

"Kosova is fake country."
(ben, 26 May 2012 12:17)

Oh, someone recognized the reality...

"Kosova is justg another Albanian province just as it is Dukagjini, Mirdita, Laberia. "
(ben, 26 May 2012 12:17)

... oops, sorry I was a bit to overhasty! He didn't! :)

The IOC also turned down Kelmendi's request to compete as an independent athlete and she will now represent Albania at London 2012."

VB and others, this is something you should be ashamed off. You should not be proud of such a pitty. All you and your dirty ploitician are doing is you are shatering the dreams of some young people in sport.

Kosova will not be your yours ever again!!!

@AriGold

Denial disease lol, every Serbian is in denial when they can't seem to realize that Kosova was never theirs. Ari that was very thought of you. As far as Kosovar Albanians and their soccer talents linger around, who cares? Albanians seem to be much focused on politics, that indeed is their bread and butter. Definitely not sports they know it too. So do they really care I highly doubt it. I am not an Albanian, but my close friends are. I know well exactly how innocent Serbs try to play it out. They been busted far too many times already.

"Kosovo is a province of Serbia. therefore it cannot play in FIFA unless Serbia allows them to do so. "
(PRO-SERBIA, 26 May 2012 14:17)

The decision is not about Kosovo* playing in FIFA (which is simply not possible because Kosovo is not a state, i.e. UN member), but about teams of FIFA member states to be allowed to have friendly matches against the team of the non-member Kosovo*

Kosovo is not a state, i.e. UN member
(Information, 26 May 2012 19:36)

Hmm, it appears in the Informationland Serbia became a state in 1945 and Switzerland became a state in 2002.

Let them play football! Under the name

Football Association of the Serbian Province of Kosovo

Ineed, like Denmark and FarOer... ..

Happy EC2012 to ALL of you!

No problems, this problem will be solved before theolympics. Blatter will speak to his masters and be ORDERD from Pacolli and many others that Kosova will be allowed to both play in UEFA and participate in the Olympics

That's what it's all about, not about Kosovo becoming a FIFA member, which is not possible because UEFA rules allow only states (UN) to join, and all FIFA members have to be members in their continental organization.
I hope everything is clear now.
(Comm. Parrisson, 27 May 2012 09:35)

Almost... to be precise UEFA rules allow entities "recognised as independent States by the United Nations" to become a UEFA member. Since United Nations have not and will not recognize any state ever http://www.un.org/en/members/about.shtml, it is incorrect to say "UEFA rules allow only states (UN) to join". For example, Montenegro became a UEFA member even though it was not recognized by the UN.

The IOC also turned down Kelmendi's request to compete as an independent athlete and she will now represent Albania at London 2012."
(VB, 25 May 2012 23:18)

Exactly, you got the point... The more intransigent Serbia is, less likely it becomes for Kosovo to ask to become a part of Serbia and more likely it becomes for Kosovo to ask Albania to become a part of Albania and all of these issues are resolved and peace will be established in the Balkans as there are no longer memberships/conference attendance issues to argue about :)

"You mean the rules written by B92 ? Because he did not ignore anything written in FIFA’s statute… "
(icj1, 26 May 2012 23:27)

Sorry, you are right. I made a mistake. According to FIFA rules and statues, FIFA can explicitely allow teams of members states to play matches against teams of non-member (non-)states.

That's what it's all about, not about Kosovo becoming a FIFA member, which is not possible because UEFA rules allow only states (UN) to join, and all FIFA members have to be members in their continental organization.

I hope everything is clear now.

Almost... to be precise UEFA rules allow entities "recognised as independent States by the United Nations" to become a UEFA member. Since United Nations have not and will not recognize any state ever [link], it is incorrect to say "UEFA rules allow only states (UN) to join". For example, Montenegro became a UEFA member even though it was not recognized by the UN.
(icj1, 27 May 2012 16:50)

Big difference between CG and 'Kosova' Mr Legal Expert. CG is a legal entity with its independence recognised by Belgrade after a mutual, bilateral agreement which made it legal. The Mafia run freak show down in Pristina way on the otherhand....

Bottom line is, you lot have painted yourselves into the same corner which Ian Smith and the Rhodesians found themselves all those years ago. It would be wise to enter into meaningful talks with Belgrade and stop the pretenses that you can exist without Belgrade's nod.

Agim Kelmendi

Even today Kosovo has a "national" team. It played against my city of Malmoe FF about 2 years ago. Malmoe won 5-0. Kosovo will not become a member of FIFA. It will only allow for Kosovo to contninue and play games of this character. Games without meaning.

"But FIFA also said: "We would like to stress that the FIFA Executive Committee made clear that such authorisation does not constitute a step towards FIFA membership, which depends on other considerations.

"In particular, and according to both the current and draft statutes of FIFA, as long as FFK is not a member of UEFA it cannot be a member of FIFA. The decision was intended purely to support the development of our sport."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/10256249

can you all remember, just a few days ago, one of your dear k-albanian friends here emphasized how that stupid political move was "final"...

can you remember? =)


well, just once again, our dear k-albanian friends make a fool of themselves if they continue to write that kind of nonsense though.

but after all, ... it is amusement!

wish you a good night, my dear k-albanian friends... =)

Big difference between CG and 'Kosova' Mr Legal Expert. CG is a legal entity with its independence recognised by Belgrade after a mutual, bilateral agreement which made it legal. The Mafia run freak show down in Pristina way on the otherhand....
(Niall O'Doherty, 27 May 2012 23:45)

Thanks for confirming dear that CG is exactly the same as Kosovo with its UDI made legal by the ICJ. That was my point.
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Bottom line is, you lot have painted yourselves into the same corner which Ian Smith and the Rhodesians found themselves all those years ago. It would be wise to enter into meaningful talks with Belgrade and stop the pretenses that you can exist without Belgrade's nod.
(Niall O'Doherty, 27 May 2012 23:45)

The pretenses have stopped already dear because they are not needed since Belgrade is irrelevant :) It does not have any say in Kosovo for Albanians and Serbs alike.

Thanks for confirming dear that CG is exactly the same as Kosovo with its UDI made legal by the ICJ.
(icj1, 1 June 2012 03:49)

Had to correct you on this before, icj1. The ICJ opinion on the "declaration of independence" in KiM was that there was never a legally valid declaration of independence. The legal situation is that any region of any country can declare independence, and legally it means little unless certain conditions are met, which conditions were not met in KiM.

If you don't believe that what I say is true, you can at any time go and read the actual ICJ opinion. Start at Wikipedia, then move on to the ICJ judges' opinions.

another lie and dirty propaganda from serb media for internal consumption.

Another epic albanian fail!

another lie and dirty propaganda from serb media for internal consumption.
(Agim Kelmendi, 25 May 2012 21:05)

Denial is a serious disease. In this globalized world where information gets anywhere, what good would it do to print a blatant lie? Besides most of Serbia's media is owned by German and Austrian conglomerates and don't even bother to print news in Serbian Cyrillic in their desperate attempt to appear Western.

Football result: Serbia 1 Organ Traffickers 0

FIFA, UEFA, OIC and the entire world WANTS natural Albania.

Kosova is fake country. Kosova is justg another Albanian province just as it is Dukagjini, Mirdita, Laberia.

So if Majlinda wants to compete she should be proud and feel privileged to compete under the beautiful two head black eagle. So goes for every other sportsmen in the northern Albanian province of Kosova and parts of Dukagjin formerly occupied by southern Slavs.

Kosovo is a province of Serbia. therefore it cannot play in FIFA unless Serbia allows them to do so.

Dear Fifa please respect the territorial integrity and sovereighty of Serbia.

I suggest to all non-believers to check the official web site of FIFA, and the truth will set you free. No suspension of decisions has taken place.

The IOC also turned down Kelmendi's request to compete as an independent athlete and she will now represent Albania at London 2012."
=======================

Does that mean she has an Albanian citizenship? Is she one of those border jumpers from Albania?

Another epic albanian fail!
(Total, 25 May 2012 21:02)

Wrong, it is pending and may likely kick in any time soon.

But it is an epic example why Serbs will need barbwire in Kosovo (better you tripple it now), because it is Serbs who makes the situation tense. If you slap, you get slapped back. Easy to understand, especially in the Balkans

Kosovo is a case sui generis - so no rules apply for it, and that's why it's a lawless place.

Joking aside, how is it possible that a FIFA president ignores all rules members have to fulfill and allows a self-proclaimed pseudo-state to participate?

Fake news. FIFA didn't suspend anything!

No no no FIFA has not suspended its decision to allow Kosovo to play friendly matches.

The IOC also turned down Kelmendi's request to compete as an independent athlete and she will now represent Albania at London 2012."

VB and others, this is something you should be ashamed off. You should not be proud of such a pitty. All you and your dirty ploitician are doing is you are shatering the dreams of some young people in sport.

Kosova will not be your yours ever again!!!

@AriGold

Denial disease lol, every Serbian is in denial when they can't seem to realize that Kosova was never theirs. Ari that was very thought of you. As far as Kosovar Albanians and their soccer talents linger around, who cares? Albanians seem to be much focused on politics, that indeed is their bread and butter. Definitely not sports they know it too. So do they really care I highly doubt it. I am not an Albanian, but my close friends are. I know well exactly how innocent Serbs try to play it out. They been busted far too many times already.

The Olympic Committee was even more specific:

"Judo fighter Majlinda Kelmendi has been told she cannot compete for Kosovo at this summer's Olympics.

Although Kosovo declared independence from Serbia four years ago, it is not formally recognised as a nation by the International Olympic Committee (IOC).

The IOC also turned down Kelmendi's request to compete as an independent athlete and she will now represent Albania at London 2012."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18205297

No problems, this problem will be solved before theolympics. Blatter will speak to his masters and be ORDERD from Pacolli and many others that Kosova will be allowed to both play in UEFA and participate in the Olympics

"Kosova is fake country."
(ben, 26 May 2012 12:17)

Oh, someone recognized the reality...

"Kosova is justg another Albanian province just as it is Dukagjini, Mirdita, Laberia. "
(ben, 26 May 2012 12:17)

... oops, sorry I was a bit to overhasty! He didn't! :)

The last paragraph of a letter from FIFA to FA Serbia http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/news/newsid=1636970/:

"As discussed today in Budapest, we would like to invite you to a meeting at the home of FIFA in Zurich on 31 May 2012 at 13 hours (1 pm), together with representative of the UEFA. In this meeting we will be able to discuss the implications of the decision and the modalities of its implementation. The conclusions of our meeting will then be submitted to the extraordinary meeting of the FIFA Executive Committee which is planned for 4 July 2012."

'implications of the decision and the modalities of its implementation' - doesn't sound like they planning on changing anything, to me.

Let's get the team names right Ari Gold: Ethnic Cleansers 1 Organ Traffickers 0, although it's still only half time. My money's on a second half comeback and an OTFC win on penalties.

Let them play football! Under the name

Football Association of the Serbian Province of Kosovo

Ineed, like Denmark and FarOer... ..

Happy EC2012 to ALL of you!

Kosovo is not a state, i.e. UN member
(Information, 26 May 2012 19:36)

Hmm, it appears in the Informationland Serbia became a state in 1945 and Switzerland became a state in 2002.

"Kosovo is a province of Serbia. therefore it cannot play in FIFA unless Serbia allows them to do so. "
(PRO-SERBIA, 26 May 2012 14:17)

The decision is not about Kosovo* playing in FIFA (which is simply not possible because Kosovo is not a state, i.e. UN member), but about teams of FIFA member states to be allowed to have friendly matches against the team of the non-member Kosovo*

Joking aside, how is it possible that a FIFA president ignores all rules members have to fulfill and allows a self-proclaimed pseudo-state to participate?
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 May 2012 08:21)

You mean the rules written by B92 ? Because he did not ignore anything written in FIFA’s statute…
----------

Even more likely is this scenario: Just like Serbs in Kosovo keep/have/apply for Serbian citizenship, more and more Albanians in Kosovo realize that it makes more sense to be a citizen of a real state and apply for Albanian citizenship. In the end, there's the independent dream state of Kosovo - but unfortunately, without citizens - problem solved as well.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 May 2012 08:21)

Exactly… north Kosovo becomes part of Serbia and the rest part of Albania and problem solved.
----------

Dear Fifa please respect the territorial integrity and sovereighty of Serbia.
(PRO-SERBIA, 26 May 2012 14:17)

You got it wrong, dear. The only thing that FIFA is bound to respect is the FIFA statute – it doesn’t give a hoot about the sovereignty of Serbia, Albania, Kosovo or anybody else.
----------

I suggest to all non-believers to check the official web site of FIFA, and the truth will set you free. No suspension of decisions has taken place.
(Agim Kelmendi, 26 May 2012 17:04)

Why are you so cruel to interrupt the joy of people by asking them to see the truth? They like what B92 tells them, so let them enjoy – who cares about the truth :)

The IOC also turned down Kelmendi's request to compete as an independent athlete and she will now represent Albania at London 2012."
(VB, 25 May 2012 23:18)

Exactly, you got the point... The more intransigent Serbia is, less likely it becomes for Kosovo to ask to become a part of Serbia and more likely it becomes for Kosovo to ask Albania to become a part of Albania and all of these issues are resolved and peace will be established in the Balkans as there are no longer memberships/conference attendance issues to argue about :)

"Exactly, you got the point... The more intransigent Serbia is, less likely it becomes for Kosovo to ask to become a part of Serbia and more likely it becomes for Kosovo to ask Albania to become a part of Albania and all of these issues are resolved and peace will be established in the Balkans as there are no longer memberships/conference attendance issues to argue about :)"
(icj1, 26 May 2012 04:10)

Even more likely is this scenario: Just like Serbs in Kosovo keep/have/apply for Serbian citizenship, more and more Albanians in Kosovo realize that it makes more sense to be a citizen of a real state and apply for Albanian citizenship. In the end, there's the independent dream state of Kosovo - but unfortunately, without citizens - problem solved as well.

P.S: In the case of Miss Kelmendi, the Judoka: She already participated in international championships for Albania, she has Albanian citizenship, and so no wonder that the IOC neither allows her to participate for the non-recognized pseudo-state of Kosovo nor as a 'independent athlete' under the Olympic flag.

"You mean the rules written by B92 ? Because he did not ignore anything written in FIFA’s statute… "
(icj1, 26 May 2012 23:27)

Sorry, you are right. I made a mistake. According to FIFA rules and statues, FIFA can explicitely allow teams of members states to play matches against teams of non-member (non-)states.

That's what it's all about, not about Kosovo becoming a FIFA member, which is not possible because UEFA rules allow only states (UN) to join, and all FIFA members have to be members in their continental organization.

I hope everything is clear now.

Almost... to be precise UEFA rules allow entities "recognised as independent States by the United Nations" to become a UEFA member. Since United Nations have not and will not recognize any state ever [link], it is incorrect to say "UEFA rules allow only states (UN) to join". For example, Montenegro became a UEFA member even though it was not recognized by the UN.
(icj1, 27 May 2012 16:50)

Big difference between CG and 'Kosova' Mr Legal Expert. CG is a legal entity with its independence recognised by Belgrade after a mutual, bilateral agreement which made it legal. The Mafia run freak show down in Pristina way on the otherhand....

Bottom line is, you lot have painted yourselves into the same corner which Ian Smith and the Rhodesians found themselves all those years ago. It would be wise to enter into meaningful talks with Belgrade and stop the pretenses that you can exist without Belgrade's nod.

can you all remember, just a few days ago, one of your dear k-albanian friends here emphasized how that stupid political move was "final"...

can you remember? =)


well, just once again, our dear k-albanian friends make a fool of themselves if they continue to write that kind of nonsense though.

but after all, ... it is amusement!

wish you a good night, my dear k-albanian friends... =)

I believe the FSS President is not Tomislav Nikolić, but is instead Tomislav Karadžić.

Agim Kelmendi

Even today Kosovo has a "national" team. It played against my city of Malmoe FF about 2 years ago. Malmoe won 5-0. Kosovo will not become a member of FIFA. It will only allow for Kosovo to contninue and play games of this character. Games without meaning.

"But FIFA also said: "We would like to stress that the FIFA Executive Committee made clear that such authorisation does not constitute a step towards FIFA membership, which depends on other considerations.

"In particular, and according to both the current and draft statutes of FIFA, as long as FFK is not a member of UEFA it cannot be a member of FIFA. The decision was intended purely to support the development of our sport."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/10256249

That's what it's all about, not about Kosovo becoming a FIFA member, which is not possible because UEFA rules allow only states (UN) to join, and all FIFA members have to be members in their continental organization.
I hope everything is clear now.
(Comm. Parrisson, 27 May 2012 09:35)

Almost... to be precise UEFA rules allow entities "recognised as independent States by the United Nations" to become a UEFA member. Since United Nations have not and will not recognize any state ever http://www.un.org/en/members/about.shtml, it is incorrect to say "UEFA rules allow only states (UN) to join". For example, Montenegro became a UEFA member even though it was not recognized by the UN.

Thanks for confirming dear that CG is exactly the same as Kosovo with its UDI made legal by the ICJ.
(icj1, 1 June 2012 03:49)

Had to correct you on this before, icj1. The ICJ opinion on the "declaration of independence" in KiM was that there was never a legally valid declaration of independence. The legal situation is that any region of any country can declare independence, and legally it means little unless certain conditions are met, which conditions were not met in KiM.

If you don't believe that what I say is true, you can at any time go and read the actual ICJ opinion. Start at Wikipedia, then move on to the ICJ judges' opinions.

Big difference between CG and 'Kosova' Mr Legal Expert. CG is a legal entity with its independence recognised by Belgrade after a mutual, bilateral agreement which made it legal. The Mafia run freak show down in Pristina way on the otherhand....
(Niall O'Doherty, 27 May 2012 23:45)

Thanks for confirming dear that CG is exactly the same as Kosovo with its UDI made legal by the ICJ. That was my point.
----------

Bottom line is, you lot have painted yourselves into the same corner which Ian Smith and the Rhodesians found themselves all those years ago. It would be wise to enter into meaningful talks with Belgrade and stop the pretenses that you can exist without Belgrade's nod.
(Niall O'Doherty, 27 May 2012 23:45)

The pretenses have stopped already dear because they are not needed since Belgrade is irrelevant :) It does not have any say in Kosovo for Albanians and Serbs alike.