Wednesday, 23.05.2012.
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Two meetings held in Budapest on Wednesday by officials of FIFA and UEFA decided to "reexamine" the former's decision to allow Kosovo to play friendly matches.
Izvor: B92
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"(FSS) President Karadžić informed both meetings about the possible negative consequences that the adoption of such a decision could have for our region, and for our entire continent”
He also forgot to mention the negative consequences not just for the region and continent, but also for the entire Earth, solar system, Milky Way Galaxy and our entire universe opening the eyes of his listeners who feared for a cataclism of galactic proportions LOL
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MikeC
answer is simple,Serbia still continues to do their crimes in various regional and international with all the possibilities it possesses against Kosovo,does not tell us where to find the 1861 killing of 14000 Kosovo Albanians victims, and so far neither has not asked for forgiveness for the crimes, nor has imprisioned criminals who caused crimes against Albanians especially at Dubrava Prison.Do you think MikeC that Serbia does not know who the perpetrators were.....! Now if all this were not enough arguments for you, then do not expect that the future of Kosovo Serbs will be bright!
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(MikeC, 24 May 2012 19:54)
You know Mike you come on here day after day condemning all Albanians for doing exactly the same thing you do. You say that there were good Serbs and defend them and say Albanians are wrong to hold the crimes of some Serbs against all of them, then you turn around and trash all Albanians for the actions of a few.
You say that some Serbs even hid Albanians, so you see you know that Albanians were persecuted by Serbs but you then you deny it.
The hatred between the two flows both ways and there is no justicfication for it to continue but use the same speechs to perpetuate the Serb hatred as many Albanians use to fuel Albanian hatred.
There will never be healing until people start admitting the wrong.
The closest I have come to seeing it in this forum is "yes we did this but YOU did this" in other words it is not an admission of wrong it is an attempt to justify your actions.
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miri asked:
"Now why can Scotland be a member of FIFA and Kosova cannot?"
well, Miri..., if you had been a little bit more attentive in school, perhaps you would have learned that Scotland is a country, and, as you should have realized by now, this little freak-creation on serbian soil that you call "kosoovaaahh" simply is not!
what is so difficult to understand here, actually???
just in case you don´t believe me, just google "Scotland" my dear...
ps: I knew right from the start when you caught my attention by writing here about russian prostitutes, that there is not much to expect from people like you. sorry for being so honest.
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Bilbao
I know what happend in Kosovo. Yes, there were crimes against albanians but there were also serbs who helped albanains. They hid them in their houses and they gave them water as they were goint to Albania/Macedonia. However, why do albanians in Kosovo today always have to refer to the serbs who did commit crimes? A number of serbs commited crimes and all serbs should pay for it. After the wars in Bosnia and Croatia it didn't take long befor people stopped killing eachother and actually wen't back to a somewhat normal life. In Kosovo, 13 years after the war there is little change. Why is that? Could it be that albanians are to blame for that or serbs? If serbs then why is there no incidents like the ones in Kosovo in Bosnia or Croatia. When was the last time you heard a serb being killed in Bosnia or Croatia? Take a look at Kosovo and Macedonia and you will realize who the troublemakers are today.
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"In the meanwhile, it was reported that the Football Association of the Serb entity in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Serb Republic (RS), had decided to go to FIFA and request that it, too, should be allowed to play friendly international matches."
Perhaps is also time that "Football Association of Vojvodina" also request that it too should be allowed to play friendly international matches.
Now why can Scotland be a member of FIFA and Kosova cannot?
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Xhafer, it's a political issue that Kosovo was even allowed to participate in "friendly games". Do you not see that? Be objective, why should rules be broken, or even bent, to allow a non-UN country to participate in FIFA games, when the rules clearly state NO?
(Ecoman, 23 May 2012 15:57)
Ecoman,
By your logic Greece would not have been allowed in the EU, and Serbia is also expecting the same kind of special treatment but denying it to others.
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Why don't you read about attacks on albanains in Presevo? If not daily then weekly we read about serbs who get stoned, harrassed and beaten up in "democratic Kosovo". As long as you have Thaci, Haradinaj etc there will be no better relations with anyone as far as albanians are concerned. Even Europe has begun to distance itself from Pristina. I know there are good and honest albanians who are against violence against Kosovos serb and roma communities but they need to show their faces. They need to stand up against their mafia leadership.
(MikeC, 23 May 2012 21:24)
MikeC,
Repeating lies does not make them true, even the Russians learned that the hard way. Revision of history bit the Ruskies in the pants when they tried to change all their lies in their history books. Why can't Serbia learn from the mistakes of their big brother. It is interesting to learn the source of your drivel is your wife, an "objective" Kosova Serb.
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so much for those k-albanian wannabees who were barking out some FIFA-mistakes were "final".
@observer: don´t you worry about asteriskes & co. you´ll be begging for them, some day in the future.
@gjoni: barricades are there to block foreign occupiers in southern Serbia. once they´re out, you will have free access to serbian soccer. but I doubt you would qualify at all. no offense, just my personal opinion, based on what albanian soccer has achieved in the past.
my dear k-albanian friends: it would be smarter of you not to start bragging here each and every time some albanian yellow-press-liar is writing about "final" decisions etc. ...you just make fools of yourselves if you do start chestbeating just because of such a nonsense...
as usual.
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Why don't you read about attacks on albanains in Presevo? If not daily then weekly we read about serbs who get stoned, harrassed and beaten up in "democratic Kosovo".
(MikeC, 23 May 2012 21:24)
I think you just answered your own question here. Think really hard on this one Captain Obvious!
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"Authority will be handed back over to Serbia, I guarantee it"
-- Money back guarantee? Steve you sound like cheap late night infomertial.
The harder Serbia pushes against Kosova the closer it brings it to Albania. You say if you want to play football then play in the Serb league. It's much easier to play in the Albanian league. Theres no barricades and road blocks and no dimwits and uneducated morons chanting for you to die because youre Albanian. It is very likely for these leagues to come together and for Kosova to still play internationally.
The more Serbia pushes the better especially since most of the times these are just emotional diatribes rather then anything based on logic. They come accross as a spoiled child throwing a tantrum because nobody is paying them attention.
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Are you people out of your mind where in the world sport and music can be in the same garbage bag as politicians are!!?? this kind of ridiculous story you read only in the Balkan news especially thanks to Serbia for showing the world again how f..d up is the Balkan and you people want to get in to my house EU.....holly crab unbelievable
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(MikeC, 23 May 2012 21:24)
Mike its great you have a wife from Istog they have great fish there, ask her to tell you what Serbian paramilitary did in Kosovo and ask her to tell you the truth.
Ask her how in Djakovica Serbs burned half the city and massacred 100's, hate breads hate.
I was talking to my wife the other day who was 12 during the war and she was explaining how she remembers every night, how they could not speak being afraid and how police through them on the street, even when they tried to go to Albania they where returned 3 times and how her father did not sleep for weeks awainting to be killed.
She told me how they burned hoses accross the street and how she will never forget. Even just fire works bring her memory of war.
I tell you that those people no matter what you say in this website will never ever forget and Serbs still have not apologized and not allowing them to play friendly how do you think will make them appreciate Serbian neighbor?
Once Serbs realize Majority rules and in Kosovo Majority is K-Albnians just like in Vojvodina its Serbs so now it belongs to you not so long was Hungarian a present from Russia.
People here do not admit what happened in Kosov but trust me it was beyond brutal.
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Time to send Mr.Platini and Serbian FA to European Court of Human Rights.
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“Despite the fact that all eight FIFA Executive Committee members from UEFA were against, the decision was adopted on the recommendation of FIFA President Sepp Blatter.”
Not to get into the details B92 but UEFA committee members abstained and did not vote against. In addition, they were not the majority.
“Full membership in FIFA is possible only for UN members - something that Kosovo has not achieved…”
This is slightly misleading; UEFA membership, not FIFA membership is defined by the statute that a country must be a UN member. FIFA statute says that a ‘country’ is defined as an independent state recognized by the international community. As we all know defining ‘international community’ might be slightly challenging. However, article 10 of the FIFA statute goes on to say that “membership is only permitted if an Association has already been a provisional member of a Confederation for at least two years.” In this case UEFA; however, the key word is ‘provisional member’, not a full member. It is the UEFA executive committee that can admit a national football association into a provisional membership. Therefore, as long as a federation is a provisional member for two at least two years then they can apply for a FIFA membership.
I know this is hard to do but not impossible. Therefore, your statement that you have to be a UN member to be a FIFA member is misleading.
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@Gazmendi
the answer to your question is simple, both scotland and northern ireland are members of the un but under the name the united kingdom and they are allowed to compete because they and england have an agreement where all of the united kingdom's entites (wales, scotland, northern ireland, england and etc) have their own football federations ... in the case of kosovo, it is not a member of the un and it is not even independent, it is a province of serbia ... think of the uk as a cluster of republics that are untied sort of how yugoslavia was with croatia, slovenia, serbia, macedonia, montenegro and bosnia, except that in yugoslavia's case they had one football federation while in the united kingdom they all have agreed to have their own football federation
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Kicking Kosova before has started just goes to show the stupidity of Mr.Platini and Serbia.
Mr.Platini is completely clueles-no personality whatsoever-prottles on in almost incomprehensible accent. How does he get a job in a UEFA.
Go on Kosova prove the Idiots wrong.
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"No, due to the fact that Kosovo didn't apply for a UN membership. And in case they will apply one day, Russia and China will veto in UNSC because they don't support unilaterally proclaimed pseudo states created by ethnic minorities"
Lol what about south osetia and abkhazia aren`t they "self proclaimed states as well" but still go russia recognition ? Nikolic is going to isolate serbia until its population shits down and realizes that serbia has a brighter future without kosovo
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Republica Serbska can not be compared to Kosovo, I am sorry guys but Kosovo will be a full member in a next few years :)
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oh come on Serbia. If you play nice you'll get another asterisk you can count on! jks.
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Great link Amer. So, everything is according to FIFA's statute and the noise from the Serb camp is just because Karadzic wants to use football for political reasons. Also, the European members of the Executive Committee apparently abstained and did not vote against. Somebody is lying.
RS should go ahead and apply too. Everybody should be given the opportunity to play football, take politics off this game.
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A question for serbs and the serbian football federation: How come Scotland and Northern Ireland and maybe other Football Associations which are not UN members can play in international competitions and Kosovo can't?
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"I sincerely hope that not all the Serbs think like you do"
Xhafer
I'm the least of your problems. Kosovo is becoming a terror society. My wife is from Istok and she told me how it used to be in Kosovo. Serbs and albanians didn't have any problems to be neighbours and friends back then. Her family even used an albanian doctor when needed. And this was during Milosevic. Look at Kosovo today. The burning of houses, seperation, ethnicly motivated crimes, the destruction of monasteries and cemetaries etc. You tell me how Kosovo has progressed? Sorry to say but albanians in general are vendictive and intollerant. Look at what happend in Macedonia. Why don't you read about attacks on albanains in Presevo? If not daily then weekly we read about serbs who get stoned, harrassed and beaten up in "democratic Kosovo". As long as you have Thaci, Haradinaj etc there will be no better relations with anyone as far as albanians are concerned. Even Europe has begun to distance itself from Pristina. I know there are good and honest albanians who are against violence against Kosovos serb and roma communities but they need to show their faces. They need to stand up against their mafia leadership.
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Kosovo newspapers are saying something else. As usual Serbs are telling different stories. What else can they do?
(Avni, 23 May 2012 16:13)
As always you don't trust those kosovo* papers so you have to come to a Serb news source to get the real deal. Avni a word to the wise if you don't trust it don't read it.
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The text of the letter is here: http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/news/newsid=1636970/
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Mike C,
What are you talking about:
109,000 Serbs eligible to vote in Kosovo (age 18 and Older) + 41,000 Children (Under 18) = 150,000 people.
If you take Military + Police in Kosovo and their families = 75K easy they are not allowed in Kosovo as there is Kumanovo agreement.
25,000 do not want to live in Kosovo have immigrated to EU/USA/Serbia/Australia and maybe 1000 to Russia no more.
it brings you to 250,000 SERBS living in Kosovo before the war, Displaced people from Croatia where not counted.
So maybe there are some Serbs still out there willing to return but no more than 10K and only if they get double pay.
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Did Swiss become a member of UN in 2002 ? this is actually great for Swiss as their starting 11 has 5 K-Albanians.
Playing friendly games should not be prevented and RS if they want to get independence why dont they declare who is stopping them certanlly not K-Albnians.
Serbia 2012: President (Nationalist / Vojvoda) and FS is having a fit as Kosovo is playing friendly matches if Kosovo is not a country and it needs to go to UN or until Serbia says yes its not true why then make a fuss let them play, maybe they have some talent and can make a living doing it whats wrong with that.
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We have seen how America could easily have Bribed people with Money and a Harem to try to Steal the Serbian Land of Kosovo.
There can be no friendly games by Albanian Muslims with the Normal and Decent Non Albanians, but only with Germany and other Nazis.
The FIFA decision to allow for ‘friendly’ games to take place came despite the fact that Kosovo is not a member of the United Nations; a requirement for full membership in the International Federation of Association Football or FIFA, and the following News Item shows the Secret Agenda.
“Whoever is filled with hate disguises it with his speech, but inside he holds on to deceit. When he talks charmingly, do not trust him because of the seven disgusting things in his heart. His hatred is deceitfully hidden, but his wickedness will be revealed to the community. Whoever digs a pit will fall into it. Whoever rolls a stone will have it roll back on him. A lying tongue hates its victims, and a flattering mouth cause’s ruin” (Proverbs 26: 24-28).
To make a long story short, it is that the Albanians are Evildoers, they are the Racists, and they are the Terrorists and Troublemakers, and just like their American and German Masters, the Overwhelming Majority of them are Modern Day Nazis.
If the Albanians want to play friendly matches, then they need to Confess to All These Things As True.
It is time for Germany to tell the People the truth of their Nazism, the Nazism of Albanians, and the Nazism of Britain, America, and France.
The Website http://members.tripod.com/~sarant_2/ksm.html, has the sentence: “Background material about Kosovo, especially the material disseminated by mainstream channels, is deficient in many aspects, but perhaps the most startling feature of many such articles is the singular way of examining the history of the region”, and I provided it is case you had difficulty finding one of many Websites with Identical Old Articles on Kosovo.
The time has come for the European Union to ask America as a friend to leave Continental Europe completely and permanently.
There can be no friendship until there is truth first, and because Serbia will never recognize Kosovo under any circumstances, then This Truth must Be Spoken that all Kosovo Albanians are Serbian Citizens who will be granted Autonomy based greatly on the United Nations Six Point Plan.
Other Countries should leave FIFA if these Nazis posing as Friends to other Races are allowed to play football, except as a Province of Serbia, and Only If The Serbian Army Is Allowed By A United Nations Security Council Resolution To Go To Any Part Of Its Province OF Kosovo.
It would be Good and Long Overdue for the United Nations General Assembly to have a Motion on FIFA, and on other matters to do with Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.
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"Full membership in FIFA is possible only for UN members - something that Kosovo has not achieved, due to the fact that Serbia rejects the ethnic Albanian unilateral declaration of independence made in early 2008."
No, due to the fact that Kosovo didn't apply for a UN membership. And in case they will apply one day, Russia and China will veto in UNSC because they don't support unilaterally proclaimed pseudo states created by ethnic minorities.
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I currently have 10 children ,but still lacks the one to have a complete football team.
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Mike,
I sincerely hope that not all the Serbs think like you do otherwise all hope is lost. I remain confident that one day Serbs and Albanians will find a common ground and solve their differences. If Germans, French and British can live side by so should Albanians and Serbs. I am hopefull that soon Prishtina and Partizan can play a friendly. And please dont lecture me about history and all that nonsense about high birth rate amongst Albanian...you just sound so much less intellegent when you write stuff like that.
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Xhafer
There won't be any future between serbs and albanians. You can't just expell and kill serbs from Kosovo, claim their territory and then expect friendly relations. Never in history did Kosovo belong to albanians. Your 8-10 children per family has made albanains the majority in Kosovo but that doesn't entitle you to carve out 12 percent of Serbias territory and claim it as you own .
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Republika Srpska should play a 'friendly' against Kosovo for UN membership. Odds anyone?
(stari, 23 May 2012 16:03)
Never mind the 'for UN membership', this is one 'friendly' that I would gladly go and see.
A two legged match, first leg in Pristina. the losers get the dreaded forfeit. Suggestions please what it could be.
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Childish protests by Serbia's Karadzic. Not a coincidence however that football gathers the most nationalist elements of every nation. Pity that a game is transformed in this way. Regarding FIFA's decision, hope B92 will keep us updated, often a story is started and then we don't know how it ends. Hope to see the results of the urgent meeting on May 31st.
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Be objective, why should rules be broken, or even bent, to allow a non-UN country to participate in FIFA games, when the rules clearly state NO?
(Ecoman, 23 May 2012 15:57)
Your statement is false. It is not true that you MUST be a UN member to be FIFA member. Anyway as I said before its very unfortunate that Serbia takes such a harsh line against football in Kosovo. Just read the statement of the Serb rep and you'd think WWIII is about to start. Its high noon that Serbia starts showing Albanians and the world some good will gesture and quit being the bully of the block. Kosovo will join FIFA either way with or without the Serbian blessing. We albanians would prefer to think that Serbia has matured enough to accept the reality at least when it comes to sports. Hopefully one day Prishtina can play Partizan and we all can watch the game as we all deserve some peace.
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@Naill
Republica serbska havent declare independence from Bosnia so the comperason is not right.
Kosova has declared independence from Serbia and has been recognised by 90+ states including Platini's state, France.
Secondly,Kosova wants to play friendly matches not attend Euro or World Cup competicions.
Why the big deal from FSS????Is this the way to reconcile with albanians,because even a cool headed person gets mad when someone says ,you are not allow to play football and friendly matches!!!
Thirdly,since Serbia says kosovar sportsmen should have play under serbian flag,I never heard any invitation from serbian federation to kosovar albanian players to join Serbian team.Kosovar albanians have several very talanted players in very high quality,but even if not,just to justify the sovregnity over Kosova they should have invited formally at least one albanian in their list.
No it is not going to happened because Serbia wants albanians not to play friendly matches, but on the other hand she wants to exclude them from "Serbian team" because serbian team must be serbians.
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What a shame.. paying off sports reps now as well. Shame on FIFA. they as well as the world knows this is a huge debate, and 2/3 of the world doesn't recognize Kosovo and Metohija, and our province will return to us eventually. Its far from set in stone, no matter what Mirel..Avni, and those criminal albos think.
You want to play soccer.. by all means. Let the guys play, i have nothing against it. Come to Beograd, try it, and play for the country you live in. You want to mix in politics? Then you start a firestorm. there is no place for the fake state of Kosovo to partake in any sort of sports gathering, period. Hope the right thing is done here.
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In the meanwhile, it was reported that the Football Association of the Serb entity in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Serb Republic (RS), had decided to go to FIFA and request that it, too, should be allowed to play friendly international matches.
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Wow, RS has now requested the same. Here we have that old can of worms coming out. Who will be next? South Ossetia and Abkhazia? Sounds like another precedent so I assume this is not the final word. Besides, the dictators are not as strong and powerful as they used to be.
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Republika Srpska should play a 'friendly' against Kosovo for UN membership. Odds anyone?
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Kosovo newspapers are saying something else. As usual Serbs are telling different stories. What else can they do?
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Ecoman,
There was definitely something fishy about the decision and with FIFA now seemingly rowing back, even more so. If the case for 'Kosova' can be brought to this level, why can't it be for Republika Srpska, N. Cyprus, S. Ossetia and Abkhazia?
Why not throw Kurdistan, Tibet and West Papua into the mix as well while Blatter is at it.
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didnt know that Scotland or Taiwan are UN members.FIFA has 208 members UN 193 it means that 15 members of FIFA are not member of UN.
Scotland is not a UN member.
I know that Serbia is doing everything they can to make the life of Albanians as hard as possible,but not allowing Kosova to play football?????R u guys crazy?
So why u are upset when albanians set fire on serbian houses?U r doing whatever u can to make their life as difficult as possible including not allowing albanians to play football.Albanians on the other end are doing their revenge...
I dont support setting up fire on innocent serbs,but I can not understand serbian stance to not allow albanians to play football.
Jesus said:Forgive them Father because they dont know what they are doing...
(Mirel from Albania)
The list of FIFA members contain countries like N. Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England who are not UN members but make up the UK which is. A derogation for the 'Home Nations' was allowed in 1946 when they rejoined FIFA as they already had their home associations and respective international teams going back to the 1870s. Territories like British Virgin Islands (UK) and Aruba (NED)are FIFA members but the difference is that they are internationally recognised legal entities - UK and Netherlands are UN members.
Lastly, Serbia has nothing against Albanians playing football. The problem is 'Kosova' with Belgrade rightly seeing this as just another attempt to undermine its sovereignty.
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....Full membership in FIFA is possible only for UN members ....
I didnt know that Scotland or Taiwan are UN members.FIFA has 208 members UN 193 it means that 15 members of FIFA are not member of UN.
Also I am more shocked by Platini coz I didnt know he was a albanianphobe.Scotland is not a UN member Platini, why they r playing football and Kosova has not the right to play friendy matches?
I know that Serbia is doing everything they can to make the life of Albanians as hard as possible,but not allowing Kosova to play football?????R u guys crazy?
So why u are upset when albanians set fire on serbian houses?U r doing whatever u can to make their life as difficult as possible including not allowing albanians to play football.Albanians on the other end are doing their revenge...
I dont support setting up fire on innocent serbs,but I can not understand serbian stance to not allow albanians to play football.
Jesus said:Forgive them Father because they dont know what they are doing...
If I was serb I should have be ashamed with FSS.Shame on you!Like it or not we will play football and the train of independence will continue.
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So why u are upset when albanians set fire on serbian houses?U r doing whatever u can to make their life as difficult as possible including not allowing albanians to play football.Albanians on the other end are doing their revenge...
I dont support setting up fire on innocent serbs,but I can not understand serbian stance to not allow albanians to play football.
Jesus said:Forgive them Father because they dont know what they are doing...
If I was serb I should have be ashamed with FSS.Shame on you!Like it or not we will play football and the train of independence will continue.
(Mirel from Albania, 23 May 2012 15:16)
What you said is like saying, "since Albanians are attacking Serbian police, don't get made if they take revenge and open fire on crowds of Albanian civilians".
It's plain and simple, you are not a country. You never will be. You are a Serbian province. Authority will be handed back over to Serbia, I guarantee it. The west is just waiting for things to cool down before they hand authority over to Serbia and say "ok now guys, play nice". Time is on our side. NATO and the US knows operation land grab has FAILED.
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Hello K.Albanians! You will never play UEFA and FIFA matches as "Republic of Kosova". The only way for you: follow Transnistria, play in Serbian league, Serbian federation, Serbian representation.
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Xhafer, it's a political issue that Kosovo was even allowed to participate in "friendly games". Do you not see that? Be objective, why should rules be broken, or even bent, to allow a non-UN country to participate in FIFA games, when the rules clearly state NO?
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By the way, nice try, by the K* Albs, to bribe Blatter. That was exposed quickly.
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(FSS) President Karadžić informed both meetings about the possible negative consequences that the adoption of such a decision could have for our region, and for our entire continent.
What consequences for entire continent is he talking about? A normal person with healthy mind will not use the word "consequences" ,unless he thinks that war would start once again because of friendly football match.
Just don't understand the logic on this BS.
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Despite the fact that all eight FIFA Executive Committee members from UEFA were against, the decision was adopted on the recommendation of FIFA President Sepp Blatter.
In a statement made for B92 earlier in the day, Fadil Vokri, who heads the Kosovo Football Association, said that FIFA's decision was "final", and that UEFA "could not change it".
OK, let's examine this a bit closer. Here we have Sepp Blatter, going against all the members of the FIFA Executive Committee, and does what he chooses. Well, I smell something foul here. His (Sepps) decision must be closely investigated. He must publicly state why and how he came to his decision. As for Vokri, who is he? Albanians always state that all decisions in their favor are final. They are not. If the FIFA rules clearly state that only UN member nations can participate in FIFA events, then what are we missing here? I just hope there wasn't any palm greasing, or bullying from world governments. That would be a shame, as there is little left in this world that is not politically influenced. If and when Kosovo becomes a member of the UN, I, and certainly most people, would whole-heartedly accept it as a FIFA participant, with all rights and privileges.
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the decision from FIFA is final like it or not no one can change it anymore not even the UEFA just as no one can change the fact that kosovo is a state
your new leader the ultra centik and war criminal nikolic traveled to his masters in moscow.
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Since Kosovo is a Serbian province and not a country, its not possible to be a member. (Kosovo is temporarily run by UNSC Res 1244).
Look at map Link: http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/index.html
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"(FSS) President Karadžić informed both meetings about the possible negative consequences that the adoption of such a decision could have for our region, and for our entire continent. Also, Tomislav Karadžić expressed his strong dissatisfaction over the fact that the decision was made behind closed doors and without the presence of the FSS representative," said the statement.
Why dont you come out clean and say this is more of political issue than a sporting issue. Its very unfurtunate that Serbia is playing such an obstructive role in all fronts when it comes to Kosovo. Hopefully future generations can settle their differences as for the current politicians may god save us from them. I salute Vokrri for all the good work he has done. Vokrri is true a gentlemen who says what is in his heart.
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"(FSS) President Karadžić informed both meetings about the possible negative consequences that the adoption of such a decision could have for our region, and for our entire continent. Also, Tomislav Karadžić expressed his strong dissatisfaction over the fact that the decision was made behind closed doors and without the presence of the FSS representative," said the statement.
Why dont you come out clean and say this is more of political issue than a sporting issue. Its very unfurtunate that Serbia is playing such an obstructive role in all fronts when it comes to Kosovo. Hopefully future generations can settle their differences as for the current politicians may god save us from them. I salute Vokrri for all the good work he has done. Vokrri is true a gentlemen who says what is in his heart.
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....Full membership in FIFA is possible only for UN members ....
I didnt know that Scotland or Taiwan are UN members.FIFA has 208 members UN 193 it means that 15 members of FIFA are not member of UN.
Also I am more shocked by Platini coz I didnt know he was a albanianphobe.Scotland is not a UN member Platini, why they r playing football and Kosova has not the right to play friendy matches?
I know that Serbia is doing everything they can to make the life of Albanians as hard as possible,but not allowing Kosova to play football?????R u guys crazy?
So why u are upset when albanians set fire on serbian houses?U r doing whatever u can to make their life as difficult as possible including not allowing albanians to play football.Albanians on the other end are doing their revenge...
I dont support setting up fire on innocent serbs,but I can not understand serbian stance to not allow albanians to play football.
Jesus said:Forgive them Father because they dont know what they are doing...
If I was serb I should have be ashamed with FSS.Shame on you!Like it or not we will play football and the train of independence will continue.
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Xhafer
There won't be any future between serbs and albanians. You can't just expell and kill serbs from Kosovo, claim their territory and then expect friendly relations. Never in history did Kosovo belong to albanians. Your 8-10 children per family has made albanains the majority in Kosovo but that doesn't entitle you to carve out 12 percent of Serbias territory and claim it as you own .
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Hello K.Albanians! You will never play UEFA and FIFA matches as "Republic of Kosova". The only way for you: follow Transnistria, play in Serbian league, Serbian federation, Serbian representation.
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didnt know that Scotland or Taiwan are UN members.FIFA has 208 members UN 193 it means that 15 members of FIFA are not member of UN.
Scotland is not a UN member.
I know that Serbia is doing everything they can to make the life of Albanians as hard as possible,but not allowing Kosova to play football?????R u guys crazy?
So why u are upset when albanians set fire on serbian houses?U r doing whatever u can to make their life as difficult as possible including not allowing albanians to play football.Albanians on the other end are doing their revenge...
I dont support setting up fire on innocent serbs,but I can not understand serbian stance to not allow albanians to play football.
Jesus said:Forgive them Father because they dont know what they are doing...
(Mirel from Albania)
The list of FIFA members contain countries like N. Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England who are not UN members but make up the UK which is. A derogation for the 'Home Nations' was allowed in 1946 when they rejoined FIFA as they already had their home associations and respective international teams going back to the 1870s. Territories like British Virgin Islands (UK) and Aruba (NED)are FIFA members but the difference is that they are internationally recognised legal entities - UK and Netherlands are UN members.
Lastly, Serbia has nothing against Albanians playing football. The problem is 'Kosova' with Belgrade rightly seeing this as just another attempt to undermine its sovereignty.
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Be objective, why should rules be broken, or even bent, to allow a non-UN country to participate in FIFA games, when the rules clearly state NO?
(Ecoman, 23 May 2012 15:57)
Your statement is false. It is not true that you MUST be a UN member to be FIFA member. Anyway as I said before its very unfortunate that Serbia takes such a harsh line against football in Kosovo. Just read the statement of the Serb rep and you'd think WWIII is about to start. Its high noon that Serbia starts showing Albanians and the world some good will gesture and quit being the bully of the block. Kosovo will join FIFA either way with or without the Serbian blessing. We albanians would prefer to think that Serbia has matured enough to accept the reality at least when it comes to sports. Hopefully one day Prishtina can play Partizan and we all can watch the game as we all deserve some peace.
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Since Kosovo is a Serbian province and not a country, its not possible to be a member. (Kosovo is temporarily run by UNSC Res 1244).
Look at map Link: http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/index.html
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Republica Serbska can not be compared to Kosovo, I am sorry guys but Kosovo will be a full member in a next few years :)
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Kosovo newspapers are saying something else. As usual Serbs are telling different stories. What else can they do?
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By the way, nice try, by the K* Albs, to bribe Blatter. That was exposed quickly.
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Xhafer, it's a political issue that Kosovo was even allowed to participate in "friendly games". Do you not see that? Be objective, why should rules be broken, or even bent, to allow a non-UN country to participate in FIFA games, when the rules clearly state NO?
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A question for serbs and the serbian football federation: How come Scotland and Northern Ireland and maybe other Football Associations which are not UN members can play in international competitions and Kosovo can't?
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the decision from FIFA is final like it or not no one can change it anymore not even the UEFA just as no one can change the fact that kosovo is a state
your new leader the ultra centik and war criminal nikolic traveled to his masters in moscow.
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So why u are upset when albanians set fire on serbian houses?U r doing whatever u can to make their life as difficult as possible including not allowing albanians to play football.Albanians on the other end are doing their revenge...
I dont support setting up fire on innocent serbs,but I can not understand serbian stance to not allow albanians to play football.
Jesus said:Forgive them Father because they dont know what they are doing...
If I was serb I should have be ashamed with FSS.Shame on you!Like it or not we will play football and the train of independence will continue.
(Mirel from Albania, 23 May 2012 15:16)
What you said is like saying, "since Albanians are attacking Serbian police, don't get made if they take revenge and open fire on crowds of Albanian civilians".
It's plain and simple, you are not a country. You never will be. You are a Serbian province. Authority will be handed back over to Serbia, I guarantee it. The west is just waiting for things to cool down before they hand authority over to Serbia and say "ok now guys, play nice". Time is on our side. NATO and the US knows operation land grab has FAILED.
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Kosovo newspapers are saying something else. As usual Serbs are telling different stories. What else can they do?
(Avni, 23 May 2012 16:13)
As always you don't trust those kosovo* papers so you have to come to a Serb news source to get the real deal. Avni a word to the wise if you don't trust it don't read it.
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(FSS) President Karadžić informed both meetings about the possible negative consequences that the adoption of such a decision could have for our region, and for our entire continent.
What consequences for entire continent is he talking about? A normal person with healthy mind will not use the word "consequences" ,unless he thinks that war would start once again because of friendly football match.
Just don't understand the logic on this BS.
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Mike,
I sincerely hope that not all the Serbs think like you do otherwise all hope is lost. I remain confident that one day Serbs and Albanians will find a common ground and solve their differences. If Germans, French and British can live side by so should Albanians and Serbs. I am hopefull that soon Prishtina and Partizan can play a friendly. And please dont lecture me about history and all that nonsense about high birth rate amongst Albanian...you just sound so much less intellegent when you write stuff like that.
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I currently have 10 children ,but still lacks the one to have a complete football team.
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"I sincerely hope that not all the Serbs think like you do"
Xhafer
I'm the least of your problems. Kosovo is becoming a terror society. My wife is from Istok and she told me how it used to be in Kosovo. Serbs and albanians didn't have any problems to be neighbours and friends back then. Her family even used an albanian doctor when needed. And this was during Milosevic. Look at Kosovo today. The burning of houses, seperation, ethnicly motivated crimes, the destruction of monasteries and cemetaries etc. You tell me how Kosovo has progressed? Sorry to say but albanians in general are vendictive and intollerant. Look at what happend in Macedonia. Why don't you read about attacks on albanains in Presevo? If not daily then weekly we read about serbs who get stoned, harrassed and beaten up in "democratic Kosovo". As long as you have Thaci, Haradinaj etc there will be no better relations with anyone as far as albanians are concerned. Even Europe has begun to distance itself from Pristina. I know there are good and honest albanians who are against violence against Kosovos serb and roma communities but they need to show their faces. They need to stand up against their mafia leadership.
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Despite the fact that all eight FIFA Executive Committee members from UEFA were against, the decision was adopted on the recommendation of FIFA President Sepp Blatter.
In a statement made for B92 earlier in the day, Fadil Vokri, who heads the Kosovo Football Association, said that FIFA's decision was "final", and that UEFA "could not change it".
OK, let's examine this a bit closer. Here we have Sepp Blatter, going against all the members of the FIFA Executive Committee, and does what he chooses. Well, I smell something foul here. His (Sepps) decision must be closely investigated. He must publicly state why and how he came to his decision. As for Vokri, who is he? Albanians always state that all decisions in their favor are final. They are not. If the FIFA rules clearly state that only UN member nations can participate in FIFA events, then what are we missing here? I just hope there wasn't any palm greasing, or bullying from world governments. That would be a shame, as there is little left in this world that is not politically influenced. If and when Kosovo becomes a member of the UN, I, and certainly most people, would whole-heartedly accept it as a FIFA participant, with all rights and privileges.
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Republika Srpska should play a 'friendly' against Kosovo for UN membership. Odds anyone?
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What a shame.. paying off sports reps now as well. Shame on FIFA. they as well as the world knows this is a huge debate, and 2/3 of the world doesn't recognize Kosovo and Metohija, and our province will return to us eventually. Its far from set in stone, no matter what Mirel..Avni, and those criminal albos think.
You want to play soccer.. by all means. Let the guys play, i have nothing against it. Come to Beograd, try it, and play for the country you live in. You want to mix in politics? Then you start a firestorm. there is no place for the fake state of Kosovo to partake in any sort of sports gathering, period. Hope the right thing is done here.
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The text of the letter is here: http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/news/newsid=1636970/
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Ecoman,
There was definitely something fishy about the decision and with FIFA now seemingly rowing back, even more so. If the case for 'Kosova' can be brought to this level, why can't it be for Republika Srpska, N. Cyprus, S. Ossetia and Abkhazia?
Why not throw Kurdistan, Tibet and West Papua into the mix as well while Blatter is at it.
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@Naill
Republica serbska havent declare independence from Bosnia so the comperason is not right.
Kosova has declared independence from Serbia and has been recognised by 90+ states including Platini's state, France.
Secondly,Kosova wants to play friendly matches not attend Euro or World Cup competicions.
Why the big deal from FSS????Is this the way to reconcile with albanians,because even a cool headed person gets mad when someone says ,you are not allow to play football and friendly matches!!!
Thirdly,since Serbia says kosovar sportsmen should have play under serbian flag,I never heard any invitation from serbian federation to kosovar albanian players to join Serbian team.Kosovar albanians have several very talanted players in very high quality,but even if not,just to justify the sovregnity over Kosova they should have invited formally at least one albanian in their list.
No it is not going to happened because Serbia wants albanians not to play friendly matches, but on the other hand she wants to exclude them from "Serbian team" because serbian team must be serbians.
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Did Swiss become a member of UN in 2002 ? this is actually great for Swiss as their starting 11 has 5 K-Albanians.
Playing friendly games should not be prevented and RS if they want to get independence why dont they declare who is stopping them certanlly not K-Albnians.
Serbia 2012: President (Nationalist / Vojvoda) and FS is having a fit as Kosovo is playing friendly matches if Kosovo is not a country and it needs to go to UN or until Serbia says yes its not true why then make a fuss let them play, maybe they have some talent and can make a living doing it whats wrong with that.
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"No, due to the fact that Kosovo didn't apply for a UN membership. And in case they will apply one day, Russia and China will veto in UNSC because they don't support unilaterally proclaimed pseudo states created by ethnic minorities"
Lol what about south osetia and abkhazia aren`t they "self proclaimed states as well" but still go russia recognition ? Nikolic is going to isolate serbia until its population shits down and realizes that serbia has a brighter future without kosovo
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Great link Amer. So, everything is according to FIFA's statute and the noise from the Serb camp is just because Karadzic wants to use football for political reasons. Also, the European members of the Executive Committee apparently abstained and did not vote against. Somebody is lying.
RS should go ahead and apply too. Everybody should be given the opportunity to play football, take politics off this game.
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We have seen how America could easily have Bribed people with Money and a Harem to try to Steal the Serbian Land of Kosovo.
There can be no friendly games by Albanian Muslims with the Normal and Decent Non Albanians, but only with Germany and other Nazis.
The FIFA decision to allow for ‘friendly’ games to take place came despite the fact that Kosovo is not a member of the United Nations; a requirement for full membership in the International Federation of Association Football or FIFA, and the following News Item shows the Secret Agenda.
“Whoever is filled with hate disguises it with his speech, but inside he holds on to deceit. When he talks charmingly, do not trust him because of the seven disgusting things in his heart. His hatred is deceitfully hidden, but his wickedness will be revealed to the community. Whoever digs a pit will fall into it. Whoever rolls a stone will have it roll back on him. A lying tongue hates its victims, and a flattering mouth cause’s ruin” (Proverbs 26: 24-28).
To make a long story short, it is that the Albanians are Evildoers, they are the Racists, and they are the Terrorists and Troublemakers, and just like their American and German Masters, the Overwhelming Majority of them are Modern Day Nazis.
If the Albanians want to play friendly matches, then they need to Confess to All These Things As True.
It is time for Germany to tell the People the truth of their Nazism, the Nazism of Albanians, and the Nazism of Britain, America, and France.
The Website http://members.tripod.com/~sarant_2/ksm.html, has the sentence: “Background material about Kosovo, especially the material disseminated by mainstream channels, is deficient in many aspects, but perhaps the most startling feature of many such articles is the singular way of examining the history of the region”, and I provided it is case you had difficulty finding one of many Websites with Identical Old Articles on Kosovo.
The time has come for the European Union to ask America as a friend to leave Continental Europe completely and permanently.
There can be no friendship until there is truth first, and because Serbia will never recognize Kosovo under any circumstances, then This Truth must Be Spoken that all Kosovo Albanians are Serbian Citizens who will be granted Autonomy based greatly on the United Nations Six Point Plan.
Other Countries should leave FIFA if these Nazis posing as Friends to other Races are allowed to play football, except as a Province of Serbia, and Only If The Serbian Army Is Allowed By A United Nations Security Council Resolution To Go To Any Part Of Its Province OF Kosovo.
It would be Good and Long Overdue for the United Nations General Assembly to have a Motion on FIFA, and on other matters to do with Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.
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Mike C,
What are you talking about:
109,000 Serbs eligible to vote in Kosovo (age 18 and Older) + 41,000 Children (Under 18) = 150,000 people.
If you take Military + Police in Kosovo and their families = 75K easy they are not allowed in Kosovo as there is Kumanovo agreement.
25,000 do not want to live in Kosovo have immigrated to EU/USA/Serbia/Australia and maybe 1000 to Russia no more.
it brings you to 250,000 SERBS living in Kosovo before the war, Displaced people from Croatia where not counted.
So maybe there are some Serbs still out there willing to return but no more than 10K and only if they get double pay.
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In the meanwhile, it was reported that the Football Association of the Serb entity in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Serb Republic (RS), had decided to go to FIFA and request that it, too, should be allowed to play friendly international matches.
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Wow, RS has now requested the same. Here we have that old can of worms coming out. Who will be next? South Ossetia and Abkhazia? Sounds like another precedent so I assume this is not the final word. Besides, the dictators are not as strong and powerful as they used to be.
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Childish protests by Serbia's Karadzic. Not a coincidence however that football gathers the most nationalist elements of every nation. Pity that a game is transformed in this way. Regarding FIFA's decision, hope B92 will keep us updated, often a story is started and then we don't know how it ends. Hope to see the results of the urgent meeting on May 31st.
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Republika Srpska should play a 'friendly' against Kosovo for UN membership. Odds anyone?
(stari, 23 May 2012 16:03)
Never mind the 'for UN membership', this is one 'friendly' that I would gladly go and see.
A two legged match, first leg in Pristina. the losers get the dreaded forfeit. Suggestions please what it could be.
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oh come on Serbia. If you play nice you'll get another asterisk you can count on! jks.
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"Full membership in FIFA is possible only for UN members - something that Kosovo has not achieved, due to the fact that Serbia rejects the ethnic Albanian unilateral declaration of independence made in early 2008."
No, due to the fact that Kosovo didn't apply for a UN membership. And in case they will apply one day, Russia and China will veto in UNSC because they don't support unilaterally proclaimed pseudo states created by ethnic minorities.
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Kicking Kosova before has started just goes to show the stupidity of Mr.Platini and Serbia.
Mr.Platini is completely clueles-no personality whatsoever-prottles on in almost incomprehensible accent. How does he get a job in a UEFA.
Go on Kosova prove the Idiots wrong.
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Are you people out of your mind where in the world sport and music can be in the same garbage bag as politicians are!!?? this kind of ridiculous story you read only in the Balkan news especially thanks to Serbia for showing the world again how f..d up is the Balkan and you people want to get in to my house EU.....holly crab unbelievable
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"Authority will be handed back over to Serbia, I guarantee it"
-- Money back guarantee? Steve you sound like cheap late night infomertial.
The harder Serbia pushes against Kosova the closer it brings it to Albania. You say if you want to play football then play in the Serb league. It's much easier to play in the Albanian league. Theres no barricades and road blocks and no dimwits and uneducated morons chanting for you to die because youre Albanian. It is very likely for these leagues to come together and for Kosova to still play internationally.
The more Serbia pushes the better especially since most of the times these are just emotional diatribes rather then anything based on logic. They come accross as a spoiled child throwing a tantrum because nobody is paying them attention.
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so much for those k-albanian wannabees who were barking out some FIFA-mistakes were "final".
@observer: don´t you worry about asteriskes & co. you´ll be begging for them, some day in the future.
@gjoni: barricades are there to block foreign occupiers in southern Serbia. once they´re out, you will have free access to serbian soccer. but I doubt you would qualify at all. no offense, just my personal opinion, based on what albanian soccer has achieved in the past.
my dear k-albanian friends: it would be smarter of you not to start bragging here each and every time some albanian yellow-press-liar is writing about "final" decisions etc. ...you just make fools of yourselves if you do start chestbeating just because of such a nonsense...
as usual.
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Time to send Mr.Platini and Serbian FA to European Court of Human Rights.
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“Despite the fact that all eight FIFA Executive Committee members from UEFA were against, the decision was adopted on the recommendation of FIFA President Sepp Blatter.”
Not to get into the details B92 but UEFA committee members abstained and did not vote against. In addition, they were not the majority.
“Full membership in FIFA is possible only for UN members - something that Kosovo has not achieved…”
This is slightly misleading; UEFA membership, not FIFA membership is defined by the statute that a country must be a UN member. FIFA statute says that a ‘country’ is defined as an independent state recognized by the international community. As we all know defining ‘international community’ might be slightly challenging. However, article 10 of the FIFA statute goes on to say that “membership is only permitted if an Association has already been a provisional member of a Confederation for at least two years.” In this case UEFA; however, the key word is ‘provisional member’, not a full member. It is the UEFA executive committee that can admit a national football association into a provisional membership. Therefore, as long as a federation is a provisional member for two at least two years then they can apply for a FIFA membership.
I know this is hard to do but not impossible. Therefore, your statement that you have to be a UN member to be a FIFA member is misleading.
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(MikeC, 23 May 2012 21:24)
Mike its great you have a wife from Istog they have great fish there, ask her to tell you what Serbian paramilitary did in Kosovo and ask her to tell you the truth.
Ask her how in Djakovica Serbs burned half the city and massacred 100's, hate breads hate.
I was talking to my wife the other day who was 12 during the war and she was explaining how she remembers every night, how they could not speak being afraid and how police through them on the street, even when they tried to go to Albania they where returned 3 times and how her father did not sleep for weeks awainting to be killed.
She told me how they burned hoses accross the street and how she will never forget. Even just fire works bring her memory of war.
I tell you that those people no matter what you say in this website will never ever forget and Serbs still have not apologized and not allowing them to play friendly how do you think will make them appreciate Serbian neighbor?
Once Serbs realize Majority rules and in Kosovo Majority is K-Albnians just like in Vojvodina its Serbs so now it belongs to you not so long was Hungarian a present from Russia.
People here do not admit what happened in Kosov but trust me it was beyond brutal.
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miri asked:
"Now why can Scotland be a member of FIFA and Kosova cannot?"
well, Miri..., if you had been a little bit more attentive in school, perhaps you would have learned that Scotland is a country, and, as you should have realized by now, this little freak-creation on serbian soil that you call "kosoovaaahh" simply is not!
what is so difficult to understand here, actually???
just in case you don´t believe me, just google "Scotland" my dear...
ps: I knew right from the start when you caught my attention by writing here about russian prostitutes, that there is not much to expect from people like you. sorry for being so honest.
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Bilbao
I know what happend in Kosovo. Yes, there were crimes against albanians but there were also serbs who helped albanains. They hid them in their houses and they gave them water as they were goint to Albania/Macedonia. However, why do albanians in Kosovo today always have to refer to the serbs who did commit crimes? A number of serbs commited crimes and all serbs should pay for it. After the wars in Bosnia and Croatia it didn't take long befor people stopped killing eachother and actually wen't back to a somewhat normal life. In Kosovo, 13 years after the war there is little change. Why is that? Could it be that albanians are to blame for that or serbs? If serbs then why is there no incidents like the ones in Kosovo in Bosnia or Croatia. When was the last time you heard a serb being killed in Bosnia or Croatia? Take a look at Kosovo and Macedonia and you will realize who the troublemakers are today.
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@Gazmendi
the answer to your question is simple, both scotland and northern ireland are members of the un but under the name the united kingdom and they are allowed to compete because they and england have an agreement where all of the united kingdom's entites (wales, scotland, northern ireland, england and etc) have their own football federations ... in the case of kosovo, it is not a member of the un and it is not even independent, it is a province of serbia ... think of the uk as a cluster of republics that are untied sort of how yugoslavia was with croatia, slovenia, serbia, macedonia, montenegro and bosnia, except that in yugoslavia's case they had one football federation while in the united kingdom they all have agreed to have their own football federation
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Why don't you read about attacks on albanains in Presevo? If not daily then weekly we read about serbs who get stoned, harrassed and beaten up in "democratic Kosovo".
(MikeC, 23 May 2012 21:24)
I think you just answered your own question here. Think really hard on this one Captain Obvious!
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Xhafer, it's a political issue that Kosovo was even allowed to participate in "friendly games". Do you not see that? Be objective, why should rules be broken, or even bent, to allow a non-UN country to participate in FIFA games, when the rules clearly state NO?
(Ecoman, 23 May 2012 15:57)
Ecoman,
By your logic Greece would not have been allowed in the EU, and Serbia is also expecting the same kind of special treatment but denying it to others.
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MikeC
answer is simple,Serbia still continues to do their crimes in various regional and international with all the possibilities it possesses against Kosovo,does not tell us where to find the 1861 killing of 14000 Kosovo Albanians victims, and so far neither has not asked for forgiveness for the crimes, nor has imprisioned criminals who caused crimes against Albanians especially at Dubrava Prison.Do you think MikeC that Serbia does not know who the perpetrators were.....! Now if all this were not enough arguments for you, then do not expect that the future of Kosovo Serbs will be bright!
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"(FSS) President Karadžić informed both meetings about the possible negative consequences that the adoption of such a decision could have for our region, and for our entire continent”
He also forgot to mention the negative consequences not just for the region and continent, but also for the entire Earth, solar system, Milky Way Galaxy and our entire universe opening the eyes of his listeners who feared for a cataclism of galactic proportions LOL
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Why don't you read about attacks on albanains in Presevo? If not daily then weekly we read about serbs who get stoned, harrassed and beaten up in "democratic Kosovo". As long as you have Thaci, Haradinaj etc there will be no better relations with anyone as far as albanians are concerned. Even Europe has begun to distance itself from Pristina. I know there are good and honest albanians who are against violence against Kosovos serb and roma communities but they need to show their faces. They need to stand up against their mafia leadership.
(MikeC, 23 May 2012 21:24)
MikeC,
Repeating lies does not make them true, even the Russians learned that the hard way. Revision of history bit the Ruskies in the pants when they tried to change all their lies in their history books. Why can't Serbia learn from the mistakes of their big brother. It is interesting to learn the source of your drivel is your wife, an "objective" Kosova Serb.
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(MikeC, 24 May 2012 19:54)
You know Mike you come on here day after day condemning all Albanians for doing exactly the same thing you do. You say that there were good Serbs and defend them and say Albanians are wrong to hold the crimes of some Serbs against all of them, then you turn around and trash all Albanians for the actions of a few.
You say that some Serbs even hid Albanians, so you see you know that Albanians were persecuted by Serbs but you then you deny it.
The hatred between the two flows both ways and there is no justicfication for it to continue but use the same speechs to perpetuate the Serb hatred as many Albanians use to fuel Albanian hatred.
There will never be healing until people start admitting the wrong.
The closest I have come to seeing it in this forum is "yes we did this but YOU did this" in other words it is not an admission of wrong it is an attempt to justify your actions.
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"In the meanwhile, it was reported that the Football Association of the Serb entity in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Serb Republic (RS), had decided to go to FIFA and request that it, too, should be allowed to play friendly international matches."
Perhaps is also time that "Football Association of Vojvodina" also request that it too should be allowed to play friendly international matches.
Now why can Scotland be a member of FIFA and Kosova cannot?
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"(FSS) President Karadžić informed both meetings about the possible negative consequences that the adoption of such a decision could have for our region, and for our entire continent. Also, Tomislav Karadžić expressed his strong dissatisfaction over the fact that the decision was made behind closed doors and without the presence of the FSS representative," said the statement.
Why dont you come out clean and say this is more of political issue than a sporting issue. Its very unfurtunate that Serbia is playing such an obstructive role in all fronts when it comes to Kosovo. Hopefully future generations can settle their differences as for the current politicians may god save us from them. I salute Vokrri for all the good work he has done. Vokrri is true a gentlemen who says what is in his heart.
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Xhafer
There won't be any future between serbs and albanians. You can't just expell and kill serbs from Kosovo, claim their territory and then expect friendly relations. Never in history did Kosovo belong to albanians. Your 8-10 children per family has made albanains the majority in Kosovo but that doesn't entitle you to carve out 12 percent of Serbias territory and claim it as you own .
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Hello K.Albanians! You will never play UEFA and FIFA matches as "Republic of Kosova". The only way for you: follow Transnistria, play in Serbian league, Serbian federation, Serbian representation.
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....Full membership in FIFA is possible only for UN members ....
I didnt know that Scotland or Taiwan are UN members.FIFA has 208 members UN 193 it means that 15 members of FIFA are not member of UN.
Also I am more shocked by Platini coz I didnt know he was a albanianphobe.Scotland is not a UN member Platini, why they r playing football and Kosova has not the right to play friendy matches?
I know that Serbia is doing everything they can to make the life of Albanians as hard as possible,but not allowing Kosova to play football?????R u guys crazy?
So why u are upset when albanians set fire on serbian houses?U r doing whatever u can to make their life as difficult as possible including not allowing albanians to play football.Albanians on the other end are doing their revenge...
I dont support setting up fire on innocent serbs,but I can not understand serbian stance to not allow albanians to play football.
Jesus said:Forgive them Father because they dont know what they are doing...
If I was serb I should have be ashamed with FSS.Shame on you!Like it or not we will play football and the train of independence will continue.
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Kosovo newspapers are saying something else. As usual Serbs are telling different stories. What else can they do?
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Despite the fact that all eight FIFA Executive Committee members from UEFA were against, the decision was adopted on the recommendation of FIFA President Sepp Blatter.
In a statement made for B92 earlier in the day, Fadil Vokri, who heads the Kosovo Football Association, said that FIFA's decision was "final", and that UEFA "could not change it".
OK, let's examine this a bit closer. Here we have Sepp Blatter, going against all the members of the FIFA Executive Committee, and does what he chooses. Well, I smell something foul here. His (Sepps) decision must be closely investigated. He must publicly state why and how he came to his decision. As for Vokri, who is he? Albanians always state that all decisions in their favor are final. They are not. If the FIFA rules clearly state that only UN member nations can participate in FIFA events, then what are we missing here? I just hope there wasn't any palm greasing, or bullying from world governments. That would be a shame, as there is little left in this world that is not politically influenced. If and when Kosovo becomes a member of the UN, I, and certainly most people, would whole-heartedly accept it as a FIFA participant, with all rights and privileges.
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So why u are upset when albanians set fire on serbian houses?U r doing whatever u can to make their life as difficult as possible including not allowing albanians to play football.Albanians on the other end are doing their revenge...
I dont support setting up fire on innocent serbs,but I can not understand serbian stance to not allow albanians to play football.
Jesus said:Forgive them Father because they dont know what they are doing...
If I was serb I should have be ashamed with FSS.Shame on you!Like it or not we will play football and the train of independence will continue.
(Mirel from Albania, 23 May 2012 15:16)
What you said is like saying, "since Albanians are attacking Serbian police, don't get made if they take revenge and open fire on crowds of Albanian civilians".
It's plain and simple, you are not a country. You never will be. You are a Serbian province. Authority will be handed back over to Serbia, I guarantee it. The west is just waiting for things to cool down before they hand authority over to Serbia and say "ok now guys, play nice". Time is on our side. NATO and the US knows operation land grab has FAILED.
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Since Kosovo is a Serbian province and not a country, its not possible to be a member. (Kosovo is temporarily run by UNSC Res 1244).
Look at map Link: http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/index.html
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didnt know that Scotland or Taiwan are UN members.FIFA has 208 members UN 193 it means that 15 members of FIFA are not member of UN.
Scotland is not a UN member.
I know that Serbia is doing everything they can to make the life of Albanians as hard as possible,but not allowing Kosova to play football?????R u guys crazy?
So why u are upset when albanians set fire on serbian houses?U r doing whatever u can to make their life as difficult as possible including not allowing albanians to play football.Albanians on the other end are doing their revenge...
I dont support setting up fire on innocent serbs,but I can not understand serbian stance to not allow albanians to play football.
Jesus said:Forgive them Father because they dont know what they are doing...
(Mirel from Albania)
The list of FIFA members contain countries like N. Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England who are not UN members but make up the UK which is. A derogation for the 'Home Nations' was allowed in 1946 when they rejoined FIFA as they already had their home associations and respective international teams going back to the 1870s. Territories like British Virgin Islands (UK) and Aruba (NED)are FIFA members but the difference is that they are internationally recognised legal entities - UK and Netherlands are UN members.
Lastly, Serbia has nothing against Albanians playing football. The problem is 'Kosova' with Belgrade rightly seeing this as just another attempt to undermine its sovereignty.
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Republica Serbska can not be compared to Kosovo, I am sorry guys but Kosovo will be a full member in a next few years :)
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(FSS) President Karadžić informed both meetings about the possible negative consequences that the adoption of such a decision could have for our region, and for our entire continent.
What consequences for entire continent is he talking about? A normal person with healthy mind will not use the word "consequences" ,unless he thinks that war would start once again because of friendly football match.
Just don't understand the logic on this BS.
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Childish protests by Serbia's Karadzic. Not a coincidence however that football gathers the most nationalist elements of every nation. Pity that a game is transformed in this way. Regarding FIFA's decision, hope B92 will keep us updated, often a story is started and then we don't know how it ends. Hope to see the results of the urgent meeting on May 31st.
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We have seen how America could easily have Bribed people with Money and a Harem to try to Steal the Serbian Land of Kosovo.
There can be no friendly games by Albanian Muslims with the Normal and Decent Non Albanians, but only with Germany and other Nazis.
The FIFA decision to allow for ‘friendly’ games to take place came despite the fact that Kosovo is not a member of the United Nations; a requirement for full membership in the International Federation of Association Football or FIFA, and the following News Item shows the Secret Agenda.
“Whoever is filled with hate disguises it with his speech, but inside he holds on to deceit. When he talks charmingly, do not trust him because of the seven disgusting things in his heart. His hatred is deceitfully hidden, but his wickedness will be revealed to the community. Whoever digs a pit will fall into it. Whoever rolls a stone will have it roll back on him. A lying tongue hates its victims, and a flattering mouth cause’s ruin” (Proverbs 26: 24-28).
To make a long story short, it is that the Albanians are Evildoers, they are the Racists, and they are the Terrorists and Troublemakers, and just like their American and German Masters, the Overwhelming Majority of them are Modern Day Nazis.
If the Albanians want to play friendly matches, then they need to Confess to All These Things As True.
It is time for Germany to tell the People the truth of their Nazism, the Nazism of Albanians, and the Nazism of Britain, America, and France.
The Website http://members.tripod.com/~sarant_2/ksm.html, has the sentence: “Background material about Kosovo, especially the material disseminated by mainstream channels, is deficient in many aspects, but perhaps the most startling feature of many such articles is the singular way of examining the history of the region”, and I provided it is case you had difficulty finding one of many Websites with Identical Old Articles on Kosovo.
The time has come for the European Union to ask America as a friend to leave Continental Europe completely and permanently.
There can be no friendship until there is truth first, and because Serbia will never recognize Kosovo under any circumstances, then This Truth must Be Spoken that all Kosovo Albanians are Serbian Citizens who will be granted Autonomy based greatly on the United Nations Six Point Plan.
Other Countries should leave FIFA if these Nazis posing as Friends to other Races are allowed to play football, except as a Province of Serbia, and Only If The Serbian Army Is Allowed By A United Nations Security Council Resolution To Go To Any Part Of Its Province OF Kosovo.
It would be Good and Long Overdue for the United Nations General Assembly to have a Motion on FIFA, and on other matters to do with Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.
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Kosovo newspapers are saying something else. As usual Serbs are telling different stories. What else can they do?
(Avni, 23 May 2012 16:13)
As always you don't trust those kosovo* papers so you have to come to a Serb news source to get the real deal. Avni a word to the wise if you don't trust it don't read it.
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Ecoman,
There was definitely something fishy about the decision and with FIFA now seemingly rowing back, even more so. If the case for 'Kosova' can be brought to this level, why can't it be for Republika Srpska, N. Cyprus, S. Ossetia and Abkhazia?
Why not throw Kurdistan, Tibet and West Papua into the mix as well while Blatter is at it.
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"I sincerely hope that not all the Serbs think like you do"
Xhafer
I'm the least of your problems. Kosovo is becoming a terror society. My wife is from Istok and she told me how it used to be in Kosovo. Serbs and albanians didn't have any problems to be neighbours and friends back then. Her family even used an albanian doctor when needed. And this was during Milosevic. Look at Kosovo today. The burning of houses, seperation, ethnicly motivated crimes, the destruction of monasteries and cemetaries etc. You tell me how Kosovo has progressed? Sorry to say but albanians in general are vendictive and intollerant. Look at what happend in Macedonia. Why don't you read about attacks on albanains in Presevo? If not daily then weekly we read about serbs who get stoned, harrassed and beaten up in "democratic Kosovo". As long as you have Thaci, Haradinaj etc there will be no better relations with anyone as far as albanians are concerned. Even Europe has begun to distance itself from Pristina. I know there are good and honest albanians who are against violence against Kosovos serb and roma communities but they need to show their faces. They need to stand up against their mafia leadership.
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By the way, nice try, by the K* Albs, to bribe Blatter. That was exposed quickly.
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@Naill
Republica serbska havent declare independence from Bosnia so the comperason is not right.
Kosova has declared independence from Serbia and has been recognised by 90+ states including Platini's state, France.
Secondly,Kosova wants to play friendly matches not attend Euro or World Cup competicions.
Why the big deal from FSS????Is this the way to reconcile with albanians,because even a cool headed person gets mad when someone says ,you are not allow to play football and friendly matches!!!
Thirdly,since Serbia says kosovar sportsmen should have play under serbian flag,I never heard any invitation from serbian federation to kosovar albanian players to join Serbian team.Kosovar albanians have several very talanted players in very high quality,but even if not,just to justify the sovregnity over Kosova they should have invited formally at least one albanian in their list.
No it is not going to happened because Serbia wants albanians not to play friendly matches, but on the other hand she wants to exclude them from "Serbian team" because serbian team must be serbians.
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Be objective, why should rules be broken, or even bent, to allow a non-UN country to participate in FIFA games, when the rules clearly state NO?
(Ecoman, 23 May 2012 15:57)
Your statement is false. It is not true that you MUST be a UN member to be FIFA member. Anyway as I said before its very unfortunate that Serbia takes such a harsh line against football in Kosovo. Just read the statement of the Serb rep and you'd think WWIII is about to start. Its high noon that Serbia starts showing Albanians and the world some good will gesture and quit being the bully of the block. Kosovo will join FIFA either way with or without the Serbian blessing. We albanians would prefer to think that Serbia has matured enough to accept the reality at least when it comes to sports. Hopefully one day Prishtina can play Partizan and we all can watch the game as we all deserve some peace.
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the decision from FIFA is final like it or not no one can change it anymore not even the UEFA just as no one can change the fact that kosovo is a state
your new leader the ultra centik and war criminal nikolic traveled to his masters in moscow.
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What a shame.. paying off sports reps now as well. Shame on FIFA. they as well as the world knows this is a huge debate, and 2/3 of the world doesn't recognize Kosovo and Metohija, and our province will return to us eventually. Its far from set in stone, no matter what Mirel..Avni, and those criminal albos think.
You want to play soccer.. by all means. Let the guys play, i have nothing against it. Come to Beograd, try it, and play for the country you live in. You want to mix in politics? Then you start a firestorm. there is no place for the fake state of Kosovo to partake in any sort of sports gathering, period. Hope the right thing is done here.
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Mike C,
What are you talking about:
109,000 Serbs eligible to vote in Kosovo (age 18 and Older) + 41,000 Children (Under 18) = 150,000 people.
If you take Military + Police in Kosovo and their families = 75K easy they are not allowed in Kosovo as there is Kumanovo agreement.
25,000 do not want to live in Kosovo have immigrated to EU/USA/Serbia/Australia and maybe 1000 to Russia no more.
it brings you to 250,000 SERBS living in Kosovo before the war, Displaced people from Croatia where not counted.
So maybe there are some Serbs still out there willing to return but no more than 10K and only if they get double pay.
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"No, due to the fact that Kosovo didn't apply for a UN membership. And in case they will apply one day, Russia and China will veto in UNSC because they don't support unilaterally proclaimed pseudo states created by ethnic minorities"
Lol what about south osetia and abkhazia aren`t they "self proclaimed states as well" but still go russia recognition ? Nikolic is going to isolate serbia until its population shits down and realizes that serbia has a brighter future without kosovo
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"Full membership in FIFA is possible only for UN members - something that Kosovo has not achieved, due to the fact that Serbia rejects the ethnic Albanian unilateral declaration of independence made in early 2008."
No, due to the fact that Kosovo didn't apply for a UN membership. And in case they will apply one day, Russia and China will veto in UNSC because they don't support unilaterally proclaimed pseudo states created by ethnic minorities.
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Xhafer, it's a political issue that Kosovo was even allowed to participate in "friendly games". Do you not see that? Be objective, why should rules be broken, or even bent, to allow a non-UN country to participate in FIFA games, when the rules clearly state NO?
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Republika Srpska should play a 'friendly' against Kosovo for UN membership. Odds anyone?
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A question for serbs and the serbian football federation: How come Scotland and Northern Ireland and maybe other Football Associations which are not UN members can play in international competitions and Kosovo can't?
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so much for those k-albanian wannabees who were barking out some FIFA-mistakes were "final".
@observer: don´t you worry about asteriskes & co. you´ll be begging for them, some day in the future.
@gjoni: barricades are there to block foreign occupiers in southern Serbia. once they´re out, you will have free access to serbian soccer. but I doubt you would qualify at all. no offense, just my personal opinion, based on what albanian soccer has achieved in the past.
my dear k-albanian friends: it would be smarter of you not to start bragging here each and every time some albanian yellow-press-liar is writing about "final" decisions etc. ...you just make fools of yourselves if you do start chestbeating just because of such a nonsense...
as usual.
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oh come on Serbia. If you play nice you'll get another asterisk you can count on! jks.
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Great link Amer. So, everything is according to FIFA's statute and the noise from the Serb camp is just because Karadzic wants to use football for political reasons. Also, the European members of the Executive Committee apparently abstained and did not vote against. Somebody is lying.
RS should go ahead and apply too. Everybody should be given the opportunity to play football, take politics off this game.
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"In the meanwhile, it was reported that the Football Association of the Serb entity in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Serb Republic (RS), had decided to go to FIFA and request that it, too, should be allowed to play friendly international matches."
Perhaps is also time that "Football Association of Vojvodina" also request that it too should be allowed to play friendly international matches.
Now why can Scotland be a member of FIFA and Kosova cannot?
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Republika Srpska should play a 'friendly' against Kosovo for UN membership. Odds anyone?
(stari, 23 May 2012 16:03)
Never mind the 'for UN membership', this is one 'friendly' that I would gladly go and see.
A two legged match, first leg in Pristina. the losers get the dreaded forfeit. Suggestions please what it could be.
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Did Swiss become a member of UN in 2002 ? this is actually great for Swiss as their starting 11 has 5 K-Albanians.
Playing friendly games should not be prevented and RS if they want to get independence why dont they declare who is stopping them certanlly not K-Albnians.
Serbia 2012: President (Nationalist / Vojvoda) and FS is having a fit as Kosovo is playing friendly matches if Kosovo is not a country and it needs to go to UN or until Serbia says yes its not true why then make a fuss let them play, maybe they have some talent and can make a living doing it whats wrong with that.
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In the meanwhile, it was reported that the Football Association of the Serb entity in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Serb Republic (RS), had decided to go to FIFA and request that it, too, should be allowed to play friendly international matches.
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Wow, RS has now requested the same. Here we have that old can of worms coming out. Who will be next? South Ossetia and Abkhazia? Sounds like another precedent so I assume this is not the final word. Besides, the dictators are not as strong and powerful as they used to be.
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I currently have 10 children ,but still lacks the one to have a complete football team.
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Why don't you read about attacks on albanains in Presevo? If not daily then weekly we read about serbs who get stoned, harrassed and beaten up in "democratic Kosovo". As long as you have Thaci, Haradinaj etc there will be no better relations with anyone as far as albanians are concerned. Even Europe has begun to distance itself from Pristina. I know there are good and honest albanians who are against violence against Kosovos serb and roma communities but they need to show their faces. They need to stand up against their mafia leadership.
(MikeC, 23 May 2012 21:24)
MikeC,
Repeating lies does not make them true, even the Russians learned that the hard way. Revision of history bit the Ruskies in the pants when they tried to change all their lies in their history books. Why can't Serbia learn from the mistakes of their big brother. It is interesting to learn the source of your drivel is your wife, an "objective" Kosova Serb.
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Xhafer, it's a political issue that Kosovo was even allowed to participate in "friendly games". Do you not see that? Be objective, why should rules be broken, or even bent, to allow a non-UN country to participate in FIFA games, when the rules clearly state NO?
(Ecoman, 23 May 2012 15:57)
Ecoman,
By your logic Greece would not have been allowed in the EU, and Serbia is also expecting the same kind of special treatment but denying it to others.
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Mike,
I sincerely hope that not all the Serbs think like you do otherwise all hope is lost. I remain confident that one day Serbs and Albanians will find a common ground and solve their differences. If Germans, French and British can live side by so should Albanians and Serbs. I am hopefull that soon Prishtina and Partizan can play a friendly. And please dont lecture me about history and all that nonsense about high birth rate amongst Albanian...you just sound so much less intellegent when you write stuff like that.
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Kicking Kosova before has started just goes to show the stupidity of Mr.Platini and Serbia.
Mr.Platini is completely clueles-no personality whatsoever-prottles on in almost incomprehensible accent. How does he get a job in a UEFA.
Go on Kosova prove the Idiots wrong.
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(MikeC, 23 May 2012 21:24)
Mike its great you have a wife from Istog they have great fish there, ask her to tell you what Serbian paramilitary did in Kosovo and ask her to tell you the truth.
Ask her how in Djakovica Serbs burned half the city and massacred 100's, hate breads hate.
I was talking to my wife the other day who was 12 during the war and she was explaining how she remembers every night, how they could not speak being afraid and how police through them on the street, even when they tried to go to Albania they where returned 3 times and how her father did not sleep for weeks awainting to be killed.
She told me how they burned hoses accross the street and how she will never forget. Even just fire works bring her memory of war.
I tell you that those people no matter what you say in this website will never ever forget and Serbs still have not apologized and not allowing them to play friendly how do you think will make them appreciate Serbian neighbor?
Once Serbs realize Majority rules and in Kosovo Majority is K-Albnians just like in Vojvodina its Serbs so now it belongs to you not so long was Hungarian a present from Russia.
People here do not admit what happened in Kosov but trust me it was beyond brutal.
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Are you people out of your mind where in the world sport and music can be in the same garbage bag as politicians are!!?? this kind of ridiculous story you read only in the Balkan news especially thanks to Serbia for showing the world again how f..d up is the Balkan and you people want to get in to my house EU.....holly crab unbelievable
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"Authority will be handed back over to Serbia, I guarantee it"
-- Money back guarantee? Steve you sound like cheap late night infomertial.
The harder Serbia pushes against Kosova the closer it brings it to Albania. You say if you want to play football then play in the Serb league. It's much easier to play in the Albanian league. Theres no barricades and road blocks and no dimwits and uneducated morons chanting for you to die because youre Albanian. It is very likely for these leagues to come together and for Kosova to still play internationally.
The more Serbia pushes the better especially since most of the times these are just emotional diatribes rather then anything based on logic. They come accross as a spoiled child throwing a tantrum because nobody is paying them attention.
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MikeC
answer is simple,Serbia still continues to do their crimes in various regional and international with all the possibilities it possesses against Kosovo,does not tell us where to find the 1861 killing of 14000 Kosovo Albanians victims, and so far neither has not asked for forgiveness for the crimes, nor has imprisioned criminals who caused crimes against Albanians especially at Dubrava Prison.Do you think MikeC that Serbia does not know who the perpetrators were.....! Now if all this were not enough arguments for you, then do not expect that the future of Kosovo Serbs will be bright!
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Time to send Mr.Platini and Serbian FA to European Court of Human Rights.
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Why don't you read about attacks on albanains in Presevo? If not daily then weekly we read about serbs who get stoned, harrassed and beaten up in "democratic Kosovo".
(MikeC, 23 May 2012 21:24)
I think you just answered your own question here. Think really hard on this one Captain Obvious!
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miri asked:
"Now why can Scotland be a member of FIFA and Kosova cannot?"
well, Miri..., if you had been a little bit more attentive in school, perhaps you would have learned that Scotland is a country, and, as you should have realized by now, this little freak-creation on serbian soil that you call "kosoovaaahh" simply is not!
what is so difficult to understand here, actually???
just in case you don´t believe me, just google "Scotland" my dear...
ps: I knew right from the start when you caught my attention by writing here about russian prostitutes, that there is not much to expect from people like you. sorry for being so honest.
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"(FSS) President Karadžić informed both meetings about the possible negative consequences that the adoption of such a decision could have for our region, and for our entire continent”
He also forgot to mention the negative consequences not just for the region and continent, but also for the entire Earth, solar system, Milky Way Galaxy and our entire universe opening the eyes of his listeners who feared for a cataclism of galactic proportions LOL
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“Despite the fact that all eight FIFA Executive Committee members from UEFA were against, the decision was adopted on the recommendation of FIFA President Sepp Blatter.”
Not to get into the details B92 but UEFA committee members abstained and did not vote against. In addition, they were not the majority.
“Full membership in FIFA is possible only for UN members - something that Kosovo has not achieved…”
This is slightly misleading; UEFA membership, not FIFA membership is defined by the statute that a country must be a UN member. FIFA statute says that a ‘country’ is defined as an independent state recognized by the international community. As we all know defining ‘international community’ might be slightly challenging. However, article 10 of the FIFA statute goes on to say that “membership is only permitted if an Association has already been a provisional member of a Confederation for at least two years.” In this case UEFA; however, the key word is ‘provisional member’, not a full member. It is the UEFA executive committee that can admit a national football association into a provisional membership. Therefore, as long as a federation is a provisional member for two at least two years then they can apply for a FIFA membership.
I know this is hard to do but not impossible. Therefore, your statement that you have to be a UN member to be a FIFA member is misleading.
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@Gazmendi
the answer to your question is simple, both scotland and northern ireland are members of the un but under the name the united kingdom and they are allowed to compete because they and england have an agreement where all of the united kingdom's entites (wales, scotland, northern ireland, england and etc) have their own football federations ... in the case of kosovo, it is not a member of the un and it is not even independent, it is a province of serbia ... think of the uk as a cluster of republics that are untied sort of how yugoslavia was with croatia, slovenia, serbia, macedonia, montenegro and bosnia, except that in yugoslavia's case they had one football federation while in the united kingdom they all have agreed to have their own football federation
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Bilbao
I know what happend in Kosovo. Yes, there were crimes against albanians but there were also serbs who helped albanains. They hid them in their houses and they gave them water as they were goint to Albania/Macedonia. However, why do albanians in Kosovo today always have to refer to the serbs who did commit crimes? A number of serbs commited crimes and all serbs should pay for it. After the wars in Bosnia and Croatia it didn't take long befor people stopped killing eachother and actually wen't back to a somewhat normal life. In Kosovo, 13 years after the war there is little change. Why is that? Could it be that albanians are to blame for that or serbs? If serbs then why is there no incidents like the ones in Kosovo in Bosnia or Croatia. When was the last time you heard a serb being killed in Bosnia or Croatia? Take a look at Kosovo and Macedonia and you will realize who the troublemakers are today.
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(MikeC, 24 May 2012 19:54)
You know Mike you come on here day after day condemning all Albanians for doing exactly the same thing you do. You say that there were good Serbs and defend them and say Albanians are wrong to hold the crimes of some Serbs against all of them, then you turn around and trash all Albanians for the actions of a few.
You say that some Serbs even hid Albanians, so you see you know that Albanians were persecuted by Serbs but you then you deny it.
The hatred between the two flows both ways and there is no justicfication for it to continue but use the same speechs to perpetuate the Serb hatred as many Albanians use to fuel Albanian hatred.
There will never be healing until people start admitting the wrong.
The closest I have come to seeing it in this forum is "yes we did this but YOU did this" in other words it is not an admission of wrong it is an attempt to justify your actions.
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The text of the letter is here: http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/news/newsid=1636970/
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