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Tuesday, 15.05.2012.

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20 years since massacre of ambushed JNA troops

Tuesday marks 20 years since the ambush on a convoy of soldiers of the former Yugoslav Peoples' Army (JNA) that was retreating from Tuzla, Bosnia-Herzegovina.

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oceangreen

pre 11 godina

delton,

One question for you as well as one answer for you. First the answer, the first shot in Sarajevo was fired by a muslim not by serbs, you can't deny it, can you? Secondly the question, why serbs are killing you? Please don't copy the same craps from propaganda, which also claims Islam is an evil religion but it is not true, isn't ?

delon

pre 11 godina

Peggy,
What kind of battlefield we are talking about.... the open market place filled with civilians.Only coward country army shell civilians Peggy,and you know who's army it is.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Sure withdrawal to the mountains surrounding Sarajevo and shoot down the unarmed civilians of the city with artillery ,mortars ,antiaircraft canons ,missiles ,rockets etc. Shooting bombing murdering disfiguring them fiscally mentally for years. Like fish in the barrel the unarmed civilians by the "brave" JNA aka Serboslavia army all for a Greater criminal warmongering Serbia and their war criminal leadership.

roberto

pre 11 godina

here's a gift for my good frnds at b92, to help you and the comrades follow the trial of yr beloved ratko mladic:

http://www.facebook.com/ICTYMKSJ

the survivors of serbia's genocidal campaign finally getting their say...

Bam Bam

pre 11 godina

Jurišić, then a senior police official and duty officer in the Tuzla public security center operational headquarters, was found guilty of "improper battlefield conduct"....When did the Bosnian Serb Army ever conduct themselves in a proper mamnner during the Balkan wars. If you were a uniform your a legitimate target it's as simple as that...The retreating Serbs should have taken off their dreaded JNA uniforms and jumped on buses instead.

delon

pre 11 godina

Peggy and Oliver,

This article does not say that the solders were unarmed.It says they were retreating ,after they had done ,well...what one army does to an other country.They shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Never heard massacre is done done to any army in the world. It is not in the honor of defeated army to call it lose massacre.
(delon, 15 May 2012 16:31)
==============================

This was NOT a battlefield and the army was not armed. Do you have a problem with comprehension?
They were withdrawing from there due to an AGREEMENT reached which UN brokered with the Muslims.
Serbs kept their part of the bargain but of course Muslims, like usual, did not.
Why don't you read General Lewis MaCKenzie's book titled "Peacekeeper, the road to Sarajevo" where he talks about this. You just might learn something.

Oliver Cromwell

pre 11 godina

I thought massacre is done when one army kill civilians en masse.
But an army killing solders of other army is called victory,or defeat.
Never heard massacre is done done to any army in the world. It is not in the honor of defeated army to call it lose massacre.
(delon, 15 May 2012 16:31)

Of course it was a massacre you idiot,an agreement had been made with the Muslim forces for the withdrawl from the city of those troops,what part of that don't you get idiot?

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

@delon

This was a massacre and a crime because they were unarmed retreating soldiers under agreement, therefore they posed no threat at all. This was well known by the muslims, yet they still conducted what was an utterly cowardly attack on soldiers who were not going to engage in battle, indeed these kinds of attacks are the only ones where muslims actually managed to pull it off, they never did and still dont have the balls to fight off Serbs when the Serbs are actually fighting back. Pathetic, these muslims wern't soldiers but terrorists, cowards.

Slobodan Milosevic's hairline

pre 11 godina

Yugoslavia could never last. Slovenes, Croats, Macedonians, Hungarians, Romanians, Albanians, Sinti, Bosniaks would sooner or later grow sick and tired of being dominated by Serbs and Montenegrins. Even Montenegro decided democratically to leave the union with Serbia. Yugoslavia was always bound to break up, EU zone will also.

This is no massacre, it's a legitimate target. The real massacre happened 3 years and 10 days later when the Serb cowards killed 71 civilians. If only Radovan and Ratko would of listened to me and ratified the Athens document, Vance-Owen.....

really?

pre 11 godina

I'm not sure why NATO, or wesley clark for that matter are feeling so high and nightly, the US and NATO are loosing and have LOST in both IRAQ and Afghanistan against some tribal elders. Tell us, was it worth the death of 10,000 soldiers, 100,000 wounded, countless physiological and emotional damage, not to mention $2,000,000,000,000 in funding you DON"T have. You will loose in Bosnia and Kosovo as well, bc you won't have the funds for another wag the dog war nor the staying power or interest level..and hopefully in the not too distance future, families unwilling to sacrifice their sons and daughters for another useless war.

And they want to up the pressure on Russia? For What? Who actually believes Russia is gonna attack with nuclear weapons? Really? The west is bankrupt, in every sense of the word.

"Begging mercy for their sins...Satan laughing spreads his wings!

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Thats what happens when you have soldiers in tanks and trucks that you send in someone else's country. They get creamed! Good job Green Berets!
(Wesley Clark, 15 May 2012 14:48)"

Sort of remind you of the Yankee experience in the Vietnam War, right? Only much worse for the Yankees. And history probably about to repeat itself in Afghanistan too.

sinisa

pre 11 godina

@wesley clark, are you serious or just plain stupid? The country was called Yugoslavia it was a multi-ethnic country and the JNA troops weren't composed of just serbs, my uncle was in HVO and guess where he got his training from, the Yugoslav army.. you dolt. Its too bad Yugoslavia couldn't go in the way of Czechoslovakia, a very small group of extremists from all sides caused so much paranoia and fear - poured gasoline on the fire only so that they can benefit from it. What bothers me is that every country in the region wants to join to morally and soon to be (financially) bankrupt EU union, so that they can all live together again without borders, when they already had that.. Our people are easily divided and now we're just a bunch of banana republics used as pawns. No reconciliation can happen unless all crimes are punished, and this was definitely a crime.

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

What bothers me is that every country in the region wants to join to morally and soon to be (financially) bankrupt EU union, so that they can all live together again without borders, when they already had that.. Our people are easily divided and now we're just a bunch of banana republics used as pawns. No reconciliation can happen unless all crimes are punished, and this was definitely a crime.
(sinisa, 15 May 2012 16:00)

I agree 100% with you that Yugoslavia was EU before EU. Sad part that people got duped now we all live in small poor countries Yugoslavia together would have been much stronger than many East Europe countires in EU.

Breaking up like CZ and Slo would have been impossible as Serbs could not see them selves living in any other state and thy wanted to create Big Serbia. If they di accept to be Part of Crotia as Z4 plan ( I know all the other states had nationalist not arguing that) but Serbs where the common denominator in all Ex YU wars.

Even today in Montenegro they do not accept the reality and talk of Montenegro as Serbian land.

If they put same amount of $$$ in YU as they did in Greece we would be one of the stories everyone would love to emulate Tito should have joined in 1974-75 EU when he had the chance.

delon

pre 11 godina

We have new definition of masacre here?

I thought massacre is done when one army kill civilians en masse.
But an army killing solders of other army is called victory,or defeat.
Never heard massacre is done done to any army in the world. It is not in the honor of defeated army to call it lose massacre.

Aussie

pre 11 godina

Thats what happens when you have soldiers in tanks and trucks that you send in someone else's country. They get creamed! Good job Green Berets!


Mate you have no idea these poor guys where ment to help you as well, the Bosnian & Croat cowards ran when they were met with proper force. Green Beret pussies..

Seems the only victory they had was killing retreating soliders

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

The accounts of both these crimes, Volunteer Street and the Tuzla convoy, would benefit from some consistency with the numbers. Even in this one article there are three different figures quoted. The problem with this is that an otherwise very serious crime is given an air of farce with the impression gained that numbers are being plucked out of the air. Surely it must be known how many soldiers were killed even if the civilian casualities are not known. The victims' families deserve better.

Wesley Clark

pre 11 godina

Thats what happens when you have soldiers in tanks and trucks that you send in someone else's country. They get creamed! Good job Green Berets!

Putin's left boot

pre 11 godina

Yes, their day will come and justice will be done for their crime against those murdered soldiers.

We can wait but we never forget.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

Still no justice for this crime, it seems that Bosnian Muslims are in the majority of cases able to evade any sort of trial and punishment, but their days will come.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

Still no justice for this crime, it seems that Bosnian Muslims are in the majority of cases able to evade any sort of trial and punishment, but their days will come.

Putin's left boot

pre 11 godina

Yes, their day will come and justice will be done for their crime against those murdered soldiers.

We can wait but we never forget.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Thats what happens when you have soldiers in tanks and trucks that you send in someone else's country. They get creamed! Good job Green Berets!
(Wesley Clark, 15 May 2012 14:48)"

Sort of remind you of the Yankee experience in the Vietnam War, right? Only much worse for the Yankees. And history probably about to repeat itself in Afghanistan too.

sinisa

pre 11 godina

@wesley clark, are you serious or just plain stupid? The country was called Yugoslavia it was a multi-ethnic country and the JNA troops weren't composed of just serbs, my uncle was in HVO and guess where he got his training from, the Yugoslav army.. you dolt. Its too bad Yugoslavia couldn't go in the way of Czechoslovakia, a very small group of extremists from all sides caused so much paranoia and fear - poured gasoline on the fire only so that they can benefit from it. What bothers me is that every country in the region wants to join to morally and soon to be (financially) bankrupt EU union, so that they can all live together again without borders, when they already had that.. Our people are easily divided and now we're just a bunch of banana republics used as pawns. No reconciliation can happen unless all crimes are punished, and this was definitely a crime.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

@delon

This was a massacre and a crime because they were unarmed retreating soldiers under agreement, therefore they posed no threat at all. This was well known by the muslims, yet they still conducted what was an utterly cowardly attack on soldiers who were not going to engage in battle, indeed these kinds of attacks are the only ones where muslims actually managed to pull it off, they never did and still dont have the balls to fight off Serbs when the Serbs are actually fighting back. Pathetic, these muslims wern't soldiers but terrorists, cowards.

Aussie

pre 11 godina

Thats what happens when you have soldiers in tanks and trucks that you send in someone else's country. They get creamed! Good job Green Berets!


Mate you have no idea these poor guys where ment to help you as well, the Bosnian & Croat cowards ran when they were met with proper force. Green Beret pussies..

Seems the only victory they had was killing retreating soliders

really?

pre 11 godina

I'm not sure why NATO, or wesley clark for that matter are feeling so high and nightly, the US and NATO are loosing and have LOST in both IRAQ and Afghanistan against some tribal elders. Tell us, was it worth the death of 10,000 soldiers, 100,000 wounded, countless physiological and emotional damage, not to mention $2,000,000,000,000 in funding you DON"T have. You will loose in Bosnia and Kosovo as well, bc you won't have the funds for another wag the dog war nor the staying power or interest level..and hopefully in the not too distance future, families unwilling to sacrifice their sons and daughters for another useless war.

And they want to up the pressure on Russia? For What? Who actually believes Russia is gonna attack with nuclear weapons? Really? The west is bankrupt, in every sense of the word.

"Begging mercy for their sins...Satan laughing spreads his wings!

Oliver Cromwell

pre 11 godina

I thought massacre is done when one army kill civilians en masse.
But an army killing solders of other army is called victory,or defeat.
Never heard massacre is done done to any army in the world. It is not in the honor of defeated army to call it lose massacre.
(delon, 15 May 2012 16:31)

Of course it was a massacre you idiot,an agreement had been made with the Muslim forces for the withdrawl from the city of those troops,what part of that don't you get idiot?

Wesley Clark

pre 11 godina

Thats what happens when you have soldiers in tanks and trucks that you send in someone else's country. They get creamed! Good job Green Berets!

Slobodan Milosevic's hairline

pre 11 godina

Yugoslavia could never last. Slovenes, Croats, Macedonians, Hungarians, Romanians, Albanians, Sinti, Bosniaks would sooner or later grow sick and tired of being dominated by Serbs and Montenegrins. Even Montenegro decided democratically to leave the union with Serbia. Yugoslavia was always bound to break up, EU zone will also.

This is no massacre, it's a legitimate target. The real massacre happened 3 years and 10 days later when the Serb cowards killed 71 civilians. If only Radovan and Ratko would of listened to me and ratified the Athens document, Vance-Owen.....

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Never heard massacre is done done to any army in the world. It is not in the honor of defeated army to call it lose massacre.
(delon, 15 May 2012 16:31)
==============================

This was NOT a battlefield and the army was not armed. Do you have a problem with comprehension?
They were withdrawing from there due to an AGREEMENT reached which UN brokered with the Muslims.
Serbs kept their part of the bargain but of course Muslims, like usual, did not.
Why don't you read General Lewis MaCKenzie's book titled "Peacekeeper, the road to Sarajevo" where he talks about this. You just might learn something.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

The accounts of both these crimes, Volunteer Street and the Tuzla convoy, would benefit from some consistency with the numbers. Even in this one article there are three different figures quoted. The problem with this is that an otherwise very serious crime is given an air of farce with the impression gained that numbers are being plucked out of the air. Surely it must be known how many soldiers were killed even if the civilian casualities are not known. The victims' families deserve better.

delon

pre 11 godina

We have new definition of masacre here?

I thought massacre is done when one army kill civilians en masse.
But an army killing solders of other army is called victory,or defeat.
Never heard massacre is done done to any army in the world. It is not in the honor of defeated army to call it lose massacre.

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

What bothers me is that every country in the region wants to join to morally and soon to be (financially) bankrupt EU union, so that they can all live together again without borders, when they already had that.. Our people are easily divided and now we're just a bunch of banana republics used as pawns. No reconciliation can happen unless all crimes are punished, and this was definitely a crime.
(sinisa, 15 May 2012 16:00)

I agree 100% with you that Yugoslavia was EU before EU. Sad part that people got duped now we all live in small poor countries Yugoslavia together would have been much stronger than many East Europe countires in EU.

Breaking up like CZ and Slo would have been impossible as Serbs could not see them selves living in any other state and thy wanted to create Big Serbia. If they di accept to be Part of Crotia as Z4 plan ( I know all the other states had nationalist not arguing that) but Serbs where the common denominator in all Ex YU wars.

Even today in Montenegro they do not accept the reality and talk of Montenegro as Serbian land.

If they put same amount of $$$ in YU as they did in Greece we would be one of the stories everyone would love to emulate Tito should have joined in 1974-75 EU when he had the chance.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Sure withdrawal to the mountains surrounding Sarajevo and shoot down the unarmed civilians of the city with artillery ,mortars ,antiaircraft canons ,missiles ,rockets etc. Shooting bombing murdering disfiguring them fiscally mentally for years. Like fish in the barrel the unarmed civilians by the "brave" JNA aka Serboslavia army all for a Greater criminal warmongering Serbia and their war criminal leadership.

Bam Bam

pre 11 godina

Jurišić, then a senior police official and duty officer in the Tuzla public security center operational headquarters, was found guilty of "improper battlefield conduct"....When did the Bosnian Serb Army ever conduct themselves in a proper mamnner during the Balkan wars. If you were a uniform your a legitimate target it's as simple as that...The retreating Serbs should have taken off their dreaded JNA uniforms and jumped on buses instead.

roberto

pre 11 godina

here's a gift for my good frnds at b92, to help you and the comrades follow the trial of yr beloved ratko mladic:

http://www.facebook.com/ICTYMKSJ

the survivors of serbia's genocidal campaign finally getting their say...

delon

pre 11 godina

Peggy and Oliver,

This article does not say that the solders were unarmed.It says they were retreating ,after they had done ,well...what one army does to an other country.They shouldn't have been there in the first place.

delon

pre 11 godina

Peggy,
What kind of battlefield we are talking about.... the open market place filled with civilians.Only coward country army shell civilians Peggy,and you know who's army it is.

oceangreen

pre 11 godina

delton,

One question for you as well as one answer for you. First the answer, the first shot in Sarajevo was fired by a muslim not by serbs, you can't deny it, can you? Secondly the question, why serbs are killing you? Please don't copy the same craps from propaganda, which also claims Islam is an evil religion but it is not true, isn't ?

Wesley Clark

pre 11 godina

Thats what happens when you have soldiers in tanks and trucks that you send in someone else's country. They get creamed! Good job Green Berets!

delon

pre 11 godina

We have new definition of masacre here?

I thought massacre is done when one army kill civilians en masse.
But an army killing solders of other army is called victory,or defeat.
Never heard massacre is done done to any army in the world. It is not in the honor of defeated army to call it lose massacre.

Slobodan Milosevic's hairline

pre 11 godina

Yugoslavia could never last. Slovenes, Croats, Macedonians, Hungarians, Romanians, Albanians, Sinti, Bosniaks would sooner or later grow sick and tired of being dominated by Serbs and Montenegrins. Even Montenegro decided democratically to leave the union with Serbia. Yugoslavia was always bound to break up, EU zone will also.

This is no massacre, it's a legitimate target. The real massacre happened 3 years and 10 days later when the Serb cowards killed 71 civilians. If only Radovan and Ratko would of listened to me and ratified the Athens document, Vance-Owen.....

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

What bothers me is that every country in the region wants to join to morally and soon to be (financially) bankrupt EU union, so that they can all live together again without borders, when they already had that.. Our people are easily divided and now we're just a bunch of banana republics used as pawns. No reconciliation can happen unless all crimes are punished, and this was definitely a crime.
(sinisa, 15 May 2012 16:00)

I agree 100% with you that Yugoslavia was EU before EU. Sad part that people got duped now we all live in small poor countries Yugoslavia together would have been much stronger than many East Europe countires in EU.

Breaking up like CZ and Slo would have been impossible as Serbs could not see them selves living in any other state and thy wanted to create Big Serbia. If they di accept to be Part of Crotia as Z4 plan ( I know all the other states had nationalist not arguing that) but Serbs where the common denominator in all Ex YU wars.

Even today in Montenegro they do not accept the reality and talk of Montenegro as Serbian land.

If they put same amount of $$$ in YU as they did in Greece we would be one of the stories everyone would love to emulate Tito should have joined in 1974-75 EU when he had the chance.

Aussie

pre 11 godina

Thats what happens when you have soldiers in tanks and trucks that you send in someone else's country. They get creamed! Good job Green Berets!


Mate you have no idea these poor guys where ment to help you as well, the Bosnian & Croat cowards ran when they were met with proper force. Green Beret pussies..

Seems the only victory they had was killing retreating soliders

sinisa

pre 11 godina

@wesley clark, are you serious or just plain stupid? The country was called Yugoslavia it was a multi-ethnic country and the JNA troops weren't composed of just serbs, my uncle was in HVO and guess where he got his training from, the Yugoslav army.. you dolt. Its too bad Yugoslavia couldn't go in the way of Czechoslovakia, a very small group of extremists from all sides caused so much paranoia and fear - poured gasoline on the fire only so that they can benefit from it. What bothers me is that every country in the region wants to join to morally and soon to be (financially) bankrupt EU union, so that they can all live together again without borders, when they already had that.. Our people are easily divided and now we're just a bunch of banana republics used as pawns. No reconciliation can happen unless all crimes are punished, and this was definitely a crime.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

@delon

This was a massacre and a crime because they were unarmed retreating soldiers under agreement, therefore they posed no threat at all. This was well known by the muslims, yet they still conducted what was an utterly cowardly attack on soldiers who were not going to engage in battle, indeed these kinds of attacks are the only ones where muslims actually managed to pull it off, they never did and still dont have the balls to fight off Serbs when the Serbs are actually fighting back. Pathetic, these muslims wern't soldiers but terrorists, cowards.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

Still no justice for this crime, it seems that Bosnian Muslims are in the majority of cases able to evade any sort of trial and punishment, but their days will come.

Oliver Cromwell

pre 11 godina

I thought massacre is done when one army kill civilians en masse.
But an army killing solders of other army is called victory,or defeat.
Never heard massacre is done done to any army in the world. It is not in the honor of defeated army to call it lose massacre.
(delon, 15 May 2012 16:31)

Of course it was a massacre you idiot,an agreement had been made with the Muslim forces for the withdrawl from the city of those troops,what part of that don't you get idiot?

really?

pre 11 godina

I'm not sure why NATO, or wesley clark for that matter are feeling so high and nightly, the US and NATO are loosing and have LOST in both IRAQ and Afghanistan against some tribal elders. Tell us, was it worth the death of 10,000 soldiers, 100,000 wounded, countless physiological and emotional damage, not to mention $2,000,000,000,000 in funding you DON"T have. You will loose in Bosnia and Kosovo as well, bc you won't have the funds for another wag the dog war nor the staying power or interest level..and hopefully in the not too distance future, families unwilling to sacrifice their sons and daughters for another useless war.

And they want to up the pressure on Russia? For What? Who actually believes Russia is gonna attack with nuclear weapons? Really? The west is bankrupt, in every sense of the word.

"Begging mercy for their sins...Satan laughing spreads his wings!

Putin's left boot

pre 11 godina

Yes, their day will come and justice will be done for their crime against those murdered soldiers.

We can wait but we never forget.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Thats what happens when you have soldiers in tanks and trucks that you send in someone else's country. They get creamed! Good job Green Berets!
(Wesley Clark, 15 May 2012 14:48)"

Sort of remind you of the Yankee experience in the Vietnam War, right? Only much worse for the Yankees. And history probably about to repeat itself in Afghanistan too.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Never heard massacre is done done to any army in the world. It is not in the honor of defeated army to call it lose massacre.
(delon, 15 May 2012 16:31)
==============================

This was NOT a battlefield and the army was not armed. Do you have a problem with comprehension?
They were withdrawing from there due to an AGREEMENT reached which UN brokered with the Muslims.
Serbs kept their part of the bargain but of course Muslims, like usual, did not.
Why don't you read General Lewis MaCKenzie's book titled "Peacekeeper, the road to Sarajevo" where he talks about this. You just might learn something.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

The accounts of both these crimes, Volunteer Street and the Tuzla convoy, would benefit from some consistency with the numbers. Even in this one article there are three different figures quoted. The problem with this is that an otherwise very serious crime is given an air of farce with the impression gained that numbers are being plucked out of the air. Surely it must be known how many soldiers were killed even if the civilian casualities are not known. The victims' families deserve better.

delon

pre 11 godina

Peggy and Oliver,

This article does not say that the solders were unarmed.It says they were retreating ,after they had done ,well...what one army does to an other country.They shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Bam Bam

pre 11 godina

Jurišić, then a senior police official and duty officer in the Tuzla public security center operational headquarters, was found guilty of "improper battlefield conduct"....When did the Bosnian Serb Army ever conduct themselves in a proper mamnner during the Balkan wars. If you were a uniform your a legitimate target it's as simple as that...The retreating Serbs should have taken off their dreaded JNA uniforms and jumped on buses instead.

roberto

pre 11 godina

here's a gift for my good frnds at b92, to help you and the comrades follow the trial of yr beloved ratko mladic:

http://www.facebook.com/ICTYMKSJ

the survivors of serbia's genocidal campaign finally getting their say...

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Sure withdrawal to the mountains surrounding Sarajevo and shoot down the unarmed civilians of the city with artillery ,mortars ,antiaircraft canons ,missiles ,rockets etc. Shooting bombing murdering disfiguring them fiscally mentally for years. Like fish in the barrel the unarmed civilians by the "brave" JNA aka Serboslavia army all for a Greater criminal warmongering Serbia and their war criminal leadership.

delon

pre 11 godina

Peggy,
What kind of battlefield we are talking about.... the open market place filled with civilians.Only coward country army shell civilians Peggy,and you know who's army it is.

oceangreen

pre 11 godina

delton,

One question for you as well as one answer for you. First the answer, the first shot in Sarajevo was fired by a muslim not by serbs, you can't deny it, can you? Secondly the question, why serbs are killing you? Please don't copy the same craps from propaganda, which also claims Islam is an evil religion but it is not true, isn't ?