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Monday, 14.05.2012.

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Progressives vow to "physically defend each vote"

Tomislav Nikolić on Monday rejected claims made by the Public Prosecutor's Office that no electoral theft took place on May 6.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Steven.001

pre 11 godina

@ Sreten
C'mon Sreten...Only DSS beside SNS said that elections were stolen. Where do you live, man? Are you listening to the news? Even here in States i have heard that two or three Democrats' coalition members gave statements that election were stolen! I wrote before and i will again. Why do all democrats supporters are afraid of change? Did you do something wrong? Why are you so afraid that you need to throw stones at this guy? Let me remind you of one sentence and you as christian (i think you are) should know it: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"...Sounds familiar?...Are you going to tell me that there are no sinners among Democrats? Oh, yes there are...I think all of them are...

Sreten

pre 11 godina

And this guy wants to become president of Serbia? And the alternative is Tadic. I don't know about you people, but if that's not depressive I don't know what is.
When I think of those two, I don't get urge to vote, but urge to vomit.
I'm not really interested in who is going to be our next president, they are both bad.

As for Parliamentary elections, one more party joined accusations of election fraud - DSS.
I believe that best course of action now would be to establish some kind of independent commission and recount all the votes. Vote recount is nothing new - I can recall vote recount in Florida when Bush was elected. That way we can find out the truth.
Alternative is continuation of endless accusations.
Latest one that joined growing army of "irresponsible and uncivilized politicians throwing baseless accusations around" (to quote Tadic) is Sutanovac, who accused SNS of having "a well thought-out plan to insert ballots where the DS had a majority" and "planning to create chaos in Serbia".
I really, really, wouldn't mind finding out truth instead listening to those guys any longer.
And I can't see why anyone would mind.

Or, perhaps we could use one known case as a probe.
We have heard from Prosecutor's Office. 3,000 ballots found in the dumpster are ORIGINAL ballots, it's been confirmed now. But, they claim that this "election material" was stolen after ballots were already counted. Therefor, it did not have any impact on election results.
They are investigating who took the ballots. Hope they will find the perpetrator and send him/her to jail.

On the other side, Nikolic is accusing ( in this very article ) Public Prosecutor's Office of being "the Democratic Party's long arm".


However, this is ideal opportunity to make quick and cheap assessment of this whole matter.
It has been determined that ballots came from polling station no. 57, in Pančevo.
Since, it has been established fact that "ballot theft" has occurred at this polling station (weather ballot theft occurred before or after they were counted it was still ballot theft.) I see no reason not to repeat the elections at this polling station. After all, elections were repeated on 17 polling stations in Nis, 2 in Vojvodina, and 16 in Belgrade due to irregularities found on those polling stations.

No doubt, there was irregularity at polling station No. 57 in Pancevo.
Then, they could open the ballot boxes right at the spot (with TV cameras rolling) and count them on the spot.
It would be interesting to compare repeated vote with the first vote.

And it would give as a good picture whom not to trust - Nikolic, Tadic, Public Prosecutor's Office, or all of the above.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Physically defend? Does this mean that Serbs are going to start killing each-other, finally? Should I triple-lock my doors for the next 3 weeks?
(Danilo, 14 May 2012 19:58)
==============================

Why, were you involved in vote stealing too?
Why don't you just leave Serbia if you hate it so much?

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Physically defend? Does this mean that Serbs are going to start killing each-other, finally? Should I triple-lock my doors for the next 3 weeks?

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Thank you Mr. Nikolic for your behavior and antics during these elections. I was not going to participate in Sunday's vote, but now I will definitely give my X next to Tadic's name because of you and your band of clowns.

bganon

pre 11 godina

Oh dear this kind of populist grandstanding won't impress many.
What is this about? Throwing a bone to his former voting constituency Radical Party types and extreme right wingers who love this fighting talk. Motivating them to come out and vote rather than avoid voting for the second round of Presidential elections.

But in my opinion this type of talk loses as many voters as it gains. We shall see...

spygrant

pre 11 godina

DOES IT MEAN THAT THE SNS PARTY CANT COME UP WITH AN INTELLIGENT YOUNG MAN? PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF ALL THIS OLD GENERATION MEN.JUST BE AN ELDER STATES MAN AND INTRODUCE A NEW BLOOD.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"This time there will be no electoral fraud, because we will really get into a fight every time they try to steal. I personally am ready to pick a fight at any polling station where they may want to steal votes," Nikolić told the press after a meeting of the SNS Main Board.

Physical defense of votes? This guy is getting more and more pathetic. What will he come up with when he will be defeated in the second round, as polls predict, if 'this time there will be no electoral fraud'? Burning himself in front of the parliament as a Martyr for Serbdom? ;-)

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Mr. Nikolic cannot accept a determination from authorities election except for the one he would like to hear. Unfortunately for him, there are competent and honest election workers that throw his claims into a garbage dumpster, where they belong, along side his mysterious bag of ballots. This clown has been making a sham of Serbian politics long enough, and it is time for him to go. Maybe back to college and finish that academic career of his? I cannot believe that anyone is so dumb as to not see through this phoney, along with his underlings, Vucic and Jorgovanka.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"This time there will be no electoral fraud, because we will really get into a fight every time they try to steal. I personally am ready to pick a fight at any polling station where they may want to steal votes," Nikolić told the press after a meeting of the SNS Main Board.

Physical defense of votes? This guy is getting more and more pathetic. What will he come up with when he will be defeated in the second round, as polls predict, if 'this time there will be no electoral fraud'? Burning himself in front of the parliament as a Martyr for Serbdom? ;-)

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Thank you Mr. Nikolic for your behavior and antics during these elections. I was not going to participate in Sunday's vote, but now I will definitely give my X next to Tadic's name because of you and your band of clowns.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Physically defend? Does this mean that Serbs are going to start killing each-other, finally? Should I triple-lock my doors for the next 3 weeks?
(Danilo, 14 May 2012 19:58)
==============================

Why, were you involved in vote stealing too?
Why don't you just leave Serbia if you hate it so much?

bganon

pre 11 godina

Oh dear this kind of populist grandstanding won't impress many.
What is this about? Throwing a bone to his former voting constituency Radical Party types and extreme right wingers who love this fighting talk. Motivating them to come out and vote rather than avoid voting for the second round of Presidential elections.

But in my opinion this type of talk loses as many voters as it gains. We shall see...

spygrant

pre 11 godina

DOES IT MEAN THAT THE SNS PARTY CANT COME UP WITH AN INTELLIGENT YOUNG MAN? PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF ALL THIS OLD GENERATION MEN.JUST BE AN ELDER STATES MAN AND INTRODUCE A NEW BLOOD.

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Mr. Nikolic cannot accept a determination from authorities election except for the one he would like to hear. Unfortunately for him, there are competent and honest election workers that throw his claims into a garbage dumpster, where they belong, along side his mysterious bag of ballots. This clown has been making a sham of Serbian politics long enough, and it is time for him to go. Maybe back to college and finish that academic career of his? I cannot believe that anyone is so dumb as to not see through this phoney, along with his underlings, Vucic and Jorgovanka.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Physically defend? Does this mean that Serbs are going to start killing each-other, finally? Should I triple-lock my doors for the next 3 weeks?

Sreten

pre 11 godina

And this guy wants to become president of Serbia? And the alternative is Tadic. I don't know about you people, but if that's not depressive I don't know what is.
When I think of those two, I don't get urge to vote, but urge to vomit.
I'm not really interested in who is going to be our next president, they are both bad.

As for Parliamentary elections, one more party joined accusations of election fraud - DSS.
I believe that best course of action now would be to establish some kind of independent commission and recount all the votes. Vote recount is nothing new - I can recall vote recount in Florida when Bush was elected. That way we can find out the truth.
Alternative is continuation of endless accusations.
Latest one that joined growing army of "irresponsible and uncivilized politicians throwing baseless accusations around" (to quote Tadic) is Sutanovac, who accused SNS of having "a well thought-out plan to insert ballots where the DS had a majority" and "planning to create chaos in Serbia".
I really, really, wouldn't mind finding out truth instead listening to those guys any longer.
And I can't see why anyone would mind.

Or, perhaps we could use one known case as a probe.
We have heard from Prosecutor's Office. 3,000 ballots found in the dumpster are ORIGINAL ballots, it's been confirmed now. But, they claim that this "election material" was stolen after ballots were already counted. Therefor, it did not have any impact on election results.
They are investigating who took the ballots. Hope they will find the perpetrator and send him/her to jail.

On the other side, Nikolic is accusing ( in this very article ) Public Prosecutor's Office of being "the Democratic Party's long arm".


However, this is ideal opportunity to make quick and cheap assessment of this whole matter.
It has been determined that ballots came from polling station no. 57, in Pančevo.
Since, it has been established fact that "ballot theft" has occurred at this polling station (weather ballot theft occurred before or after they were counted it was still ballot theft.) I see no reason not to repeat the elections at this polling station. After all, elections were repeated on 17 polling stations in Nis, 2 in Vojvodina, and 16 in Belgrade due to irregularities found on those polling stations.

No doubt, there was irregularity at polling station No. 57 in Pancevo.
Then, they could open the ballot boxes right at the spot (with TV cameras rolling) and count them on the spot.
It would be interesting to compare repeated vote with the first vote.

And it would give as a good picture whom not to trust - Nikolic, Tadic, Public Prosecutor's Office, or all of the above.

Steven.001

pre 11 godina

@ Sreten
C'mon Sreten...Only DSS beside SNS said that elections were stolen. Where do you live, man? Are you listening to the news? Even here in States i have heard that two or three Democrats' coalition members gave statements that election were stolen! I wrote before and i will again. Why do all democrats supporters are afraid of change? Did you do something wrong? Why are you so afraid that you need to throw stones at this guy? Let me remind you of one sentence and you as christian (i think you are) should know it: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"...Sounds familiar?...Are you going to tell me that there are no sinners among Democrats? Oh, yes there are...I think all of them are...

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Physically defend? Does this mean that Serbs are going to start killing each-other, finally? Should I triple-lock my doors for the next 3 weeks?

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Thank you Mr. Nikolic for your behavior and antics during these elections. I was not going to participate in Sunday's vote, but now I will definitely give my X next to Tadic's name because of you and your band of clowns.

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Mr. Nikolic cannot accept a determination from authorities election except for the one he would like to hear. Unfortunately for him, there are competent and honest election workers that throw his claims into a garbage dumpster, where they belong, along side his mysterious bag of ballots. This clown has been making a sham of Serbian politics long enough, and it is time for him to go. Maybe back to college and finish that academic career of his? I cannot believe that anyone is so dumb as to not see through this phoney, along with his underlings, Vucic and Jorgovanka.

bganon

pre 11 godina

Oh dear this kind of populist grandstanding won't impress many.
What is this about? Throwing a bone to his former voting constituency Radical Party types and extreme right wingers who love this fighting talk. Motivating them to come out and vote rather than avoid voting for the second round of Presidential elections.

But in my opinion this type of talk loses as many voters as it gains. We shall see...

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"This time there will be no electoral fraud, because we will really get into a fight every time they try to steal. I personally am ready to pick a fight at any polling station where they may want to steal votes," Nikolić told the press after a meeting of the SNS Main Board.

Physical defense of votes? This guy is getting more and more pathetic. What will he come up with when he will be defeated in the second round, as polls predict, if 'this time there will be no electoral fraud'? Burning himself in front of the parliament as a Martyr for Serbdom? ;-)

spygrant

pre 11 godina

DOES IT MEAN THAT THE SNS PARTY CANT COME UP WITH AN INTELLIGENT YOUNG MAN? PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF ALL THIS OLD GENERATION MEN.JUST BE AN ELDER STATES MAN AND INTRODUCE A NEW BLOOD.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Physically defend? Does this mean that Serbs are going to start killing each-other, finally? Should I triple-lock my doors for the next 3 weeks?
(Danilo, 14 May 2012 19:58)
==============================

Why, were you involved in vote stealing too?
Why don't you just leave Serbia if you hate it so much?

Sreten

pre 11 godina

And this guy wants to become president of Serbia? And the alternative is Tadic. I don't know about you people, but if that's not depressive I don't know what is.
When I think of those two, I don't get urge to vote, but urge to vomit.
I'm not really interested in who is going to be our next president, they are both bad.

As for Parliamentary elections, one more party joined accusations of election fraud - DSS.
I believe that best course of action now would be to establish some kind of independent commission and recount all the votes. Vote recount is nothing new - I can recall vote recount in Florida when Bush was elected. That way we can find out the truth.
Alternative is continuation of endless accusations.
Latest one that joined growing army of "irresponsible and uncivilized politicians throwing baseless accusations around" (to quote Tadic) is Sutanovac, who accused SNS of having "a well thought-out plan to insert ballots where the DS had a majority" and "planning to create chaos in Serbia".
I really, really, wouldn't mind finding out truth instead listening to those guys any longer.
And I can't see why anyone would mind.

Or, perhaps we could use one known case as a probe.
We have heard from Prosecutor's Office. 3,000 ballots found in the dumpster are ORIGINAL ballots, it's been confirmed now. But, they claim that this "election material" was stolen after ballots were already counted. Therefor, it did not have any impact on election results.
They are investigating who took the ballots. Hope they will find the perpetrator and send him/her to jail.

On the other side, Nikolic is accusing ( in this very article ) Public Prosecutor's Office of being "the Democratic Party's long arm".


However, this is ideal opportunity to make quick and cheap assessment of this whole matter.
It has been determined that ballots came from polling station no. 57, in Pančevo.
Since, it has been established fact that "ballot theft" has occurred at this polling station (weather ballot theft occurred before or after they were counted it was still ballot theft.) I see no reason not to repeat the elections at this polling station. After all, elections were repeated on 17 polling stations in Nis, 2 in Vojvodina, and 16 in Belgrade due to irregularities found on those polling stations.

No doubt, there was irregularity at polling station No. 57 in Pancevo.
Then, they could open the ballot boxes right at the spot (with TV cameras rolling) and count them on the spot.
It would be interesting to compare repeated vote with the first vote.

And it would give as a good picture whom not to trust - Nikolic, Tadic, Public Prosecutor's Office, or all of the above.

Steven.001

pre 11 godina

@ Sreten
C'mon Sreten...Only DSS beside SNS said that elections were stolen. Where do you live, man? Are you listening to the news? Even here in States i have heard that two or three Democrats' coalition members gave statements that election were stolen! I wrote before and i will again. Why do all democrats supporters are afraid of change? Did you do something wrong? Why are you so afraid that you need to throw stones at this guy? Let me remind you of one sentence and you as christian (i think you are) should know it: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"...Sounds familiar?...Are you going to tell me that there are no sinners among Democrats? Oh, yes there are...I think all of them are...