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Saturday, 12.05.2012.

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“NATO plans to heighten tensions with Russia”

NATO plans to upgrade the U.S. estimated 180 tactical nuclear weapons in Western Europe will only heighten tensions with Russia.

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Cvele

pre 11 godina

Indeed, Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin... Russia has millions of people less then what it had under Yeltsin, and the number of Russians trying to emigrate is increasing.
[link]
(icj1, 13 May 2012 23:59)

What more can one say,

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2011/10/02/the-new-york-times-and-russian-emigration-negative-value-added-commentary/3/

Proof is in the pudding, Putin has reversed Boris's blunders;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Natural_Population_Growth_of_Russia.PNG

The cherry on top award goes too,

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/16/us/more-us-children-of-immigrants-are-leaving-us.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120416

Dude gets some reality in the diet....

icj1

pre 11 godina

NATO is playing a dangerous game here, they need to fully understand that Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin
(SCP UK, 13 May 2012 12:27)

Indeed, Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin... Russia has millions of people less then what it had under Yeltsin, and the number of Russians trying to emigrate is increasing.
http://www.economist.com/node/21528596

Donkey Hoxha

pre 11 godina

There's a name for such people.
(metrod, 13 May 2012 02:49)

Where's the windmill? I can't find it, only my buddy Sancho Panza is around riding his anti-Russian strategic missile.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Mike can you explain why Poland, Lithuania , Estonia, latvia asking USa to send forces and have some military presence in their territory?"

Bilbao

Oh, I thought the US was placing the missle sheild to protect Europe from Iran. Isn't that the reason why? Russia is not waging wars all over the world like America. So who is the threat: America or Russia? Russia left Poland, Lithuania etc and they have never threatened to go back to those countries. In other words, your argument is a big fat lie.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

NATO is playing a dangerous game here, they need to fully understand that Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin which failed to hold NATO truly to account. Russia under Putin is a Russia that very keen on keeping an eye on NATO's actions, especially when it comes into Russia's back yard, NATO is playing with fire.

I have to add that it is really amusing when albanian trolls such as 'nato new albanian treaty organization' who come on here and give the big talk about NATO, it really is pathetic. Its like the cowardly kid in the playground who likes to pick fights but when he is challened he gets his stronger cousin to fight his battles for him, only to brag about how strong his cousin is, while he himself is a short skinny coward who cannot fight. When NATO diminishes then the albanians will be so alone, they will probably surrender without a fight.

Joe Magarac

pre 11 godina

Russia + Serbia + North Korea = Axis of Evil. USA! USA! USA!
(nato New Albanian Treaty Organization, 12 May 2012 16:45)

Let's have sex. May I see your a**, Mary?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=U3AMuA2A4nw&NR=1

Ataman

pre 11 godina

nato New Albanian Treaty Organization

Take a look at what your countrymen have acomplished accross Europe.....
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 19:45)

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Maybe someone should tell Romney....
(Putin's left boot, 12 May 2012 19:04)

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After the Mongols all threats to us came from the West and the Swedish Karl-12
(rote, 12 May 2012 18:41)


Uh-oh. I do agree with you guys sometimes, I do not agree with you guys sometimes. :-P
But here all of you made a strategic military mistake. I made the same mistake few times before - never again.

Writing an essay with a content other than sexual life of donkeys to someone with a nick like "NATO New Albanian Treaty Organization" is a waste of the grey cells energy. This is the same trollercoaster like "Bloody Mary" or "Miri" or whatever. (S)he is here just to provoke - very obvious from the very "intelligent" nick. Either don't feed a troll or feed him with donkey manure.

You know the routine: donkey ride uphill (or downhill, your choice), some girl (Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Korean, Cuban, Serbian, yada-yada-yada - your choice) in his whatever hand, her opposite side kidney in his other hand, she should scream (cry, yell, kick, yada-yada-yada) and the enire showing is chasing the car with Mongolian (Russian, Serbian, Korean, Macedonian, Greek, yada-yada-yada) license plates.

That's the only topic Baldy Bloody Beardy Mary does understand, the rest is beyond what her IQ is capable.

Adding few youtube clips about different comical donkey situations do not hurt.

Good one:

Very retarded Albanian singing for money to Russian tourists in Greece who pretend to be Americans.
This is for real and the most pathetic Albanian show you can find. Boys, the albotrollers love that clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cleMv4agkKA (I suspect, this could be one of the regulars here?)

Donkey Donna, the girlfriend of Joe Magarac

pre 11 godina

Russia + Serbia + North Korea = Axis of Evil. USA! USA! USA!
(nato New Albanian Treaty Organization, 12 May 2012 16:45)

Hey Baldy Mary with the new nick - that fun you suggest sounds like a donkey ride downhll, with one screaming Korean girl in your right hand, her left kidney in your left hand and chasing a car with Russian license plates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_5R1IhUTao

Just make sure, you can handle your donkey properly, otherwise bad things can happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-jAgkvGy8

Suspicious, suspicious... someone with that very "intelligent" nick could be only Bloody Baldy Beardy Mary alias Miri. In any case don't foregt to feed your anti-Russian strategic weapon properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEKipoGNtUQ

sj

pre 11 godina

The west is using Islamic terrorists to try and advance their cause, but the real question is the west capable of controlling those elements once the goal has been reached. One only has to look at Libya and what is going on right now and the answer to that question is a very big no. Libya is now a complete mess where fighting is going on between various groups such as the Islamist, tribes etc. Unfortunately what we have is the US not learning anything in the last twenty years but going in boots and all and coming out with nothing.
Syria is another good example. Even the Israelis are not keen of removing Assad because they know that what will follow is worse. However, as an old academic at university used to say, you cannot even legislate against stupidity.
As far as the US upgrading its nuclear missile system; go ahead upgrade them but be very prepared for civil uprising in the US very soon as roads and bridges go unrepaired, infrastructure crumbling before your very eyes, teachers, police, government workers being fired due to a lack of money. One out of every two university graduates in the US is either unemployed or under employed. But they want to upgrade their nuclear weapons. It was said before that if the EU goes into a second recession then this will cause even greater pain in the US.
This is more piss and wind US style, but please upgrade them and spend more on something that will do you no good.
The latest information coming g out from the Pentagon shows a great concern about care for US soldiers who are wounded and have ongoing physical and mental problems and require long term care. Well it seems that the cash cow has bolted and there is very little money for this now. Watch as thousands of these poor sods pour onto the streets and all the dangers associated with people like that. Fighting for freedom and having a leg or arm blown off and then being pushed out on the streets. I think they call this communal housing much like the existing metal pateients.

Mike can you explain why Poland, Lithuania , Estonia, latvia asking USa to send forces and have some military presence in their territory?

I think they know quiet well that life under Russia is not fun same for your neighbor Finland.

Rumania as well wants the radar or mislas there so its not like NATO by force made this countries join like Warsaw Pact look at Gorgia wanting to join why since they do not if a country wants to join a organisation and it meets conditions why Russia is concerned ?

Let Russia creat its own pact with who they please ... and let them put Radars in Cuba .
(Bilbao, 12 May 2012 19:53)

They don’t ask you. They tell you that the missiles are going there. Each of these countries have a democratically elected government that is extremely friendly to NATO. The Latvians/Estonians etc were never asked under the Soviets nor are they asked under NATO.
You are told.

metrod

pre 11 godina

Bilbao,
Don't waste your time trying to knock some sense into MikeC's head.
He's a lost cause.
If he had any integrity he would leave the West and move to Serbia, Russia or China.
Since he doesn't he'll stay put where he is. Same goes for the majority of the Western bashers on this forum.
They like what the West has to offer them but hate it when they side on the right side of justice. There's a name for such people.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

NATO countries are doing this because they need an angry Russia. This will increase the West's need to spend on armaments, which will boost the economy. This is all part of a global game and we the innocent civilians are nothing but pawns to global titans.

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

I'd like to see the US and their NATO allies try it on with the Russians and the Chinese, they ain't the little guys the US is so used to attacking and then opening their big mouths bragging they hit the little guy. USA, I dare you to try it on with Russia and China and see what you get I dare you you bloody cowards.
(Putin's left boot, 12 May 2012 19:04)

I dear you to do anything to USA Mr Russia. you think USA is like Georgia? Why would USA attach Russia no need there is nothing there that we must have, I think you should worry of China more than USA as they sooner or latter will need your oil and resources in empty Russia.

LOLx2

pre 11 godina

This is great news! A NATO PR, political and strategic disaster in the making. There is not one single pragmatic argument as to what threat this is supposedly to protect Europe against, if not Iran, then who? F-35 are short ranged turkeys which will be even less stealthy when they actually exist, B-2s are obsolete white elephants.

Why should Europe poney up for this NATO protection racket? Germany doesn't even spend the demanded 2% minimum on defense and why should it?

It's pleasure watching the slow suicide of NATO and slipping in to irrelevance because of their inability to face reality. Goodbye to Obsma's NATO-Russia 'Re-Set'. It was funny whilst it lasted.

Recently the Senate Defense Panel sought to not cut spending. It was suggested to cut the federal Food Stamp program for the poorest Americans to Keep America Safe!

Putin's left boot

pre 11 godina

Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said that he believes Russia and China are a threat to world peace......what a sick joke, what a sick man!!

Maybe someone should tell Romney that it is the United States who are waging wars in diverse places on this globe and that it is the bloody USA that is trying to surround Russia and China with a missile shield!!

Who is the threat to world peace Romney you thick American prize idiot!!

I'd like to see the US and their NATO allies try it on with the Russians and the Chinese, they ain't the little guys the US is so used to attacking and then opening their big mouths bragging they hit the little guy. USA, I dare you to try it on with Russia and China and see what you get I dare you you bloody cowards.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

nato New Albanian Treaty Organization

Take a look at what your countrymen have acomplished accross Europe and then tell me who the real problem is. A majority of albanians are nothing but drugsmugglers, human trafficers and organ harvesters. Albanians are troublemakers. If you can't fight with serbs and macedonians you will fight amongst yourselves. You have not contributed to anything good, nothing. And your muslim friend accross the world are only interested in blowing themselves up together with women and children. And you think Serbia and Russia is the problem. We would be a problem to people like you if there was no America to support terrorism in exchange for oil.

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 14:03)

Mike can you explain why Poland, Lithuania , Estonia, latvia asking USa to send forces and have some military presence in their territory?

I think they know quiet well that life under Russia is not fun same for your neighbor Finland.

Rumania as well wants the radar or mislas there so its not like NATO by force made this countries join like Warsaw Pact look at Gorgia wanting to join why since they do not if a country wants to join a organisation and it meets conditions why Russia is concerned ?

Let Russia creat its own pact with who they please ... and let them put Radars in Cuba .

rote

pre 11 godina

After the Mongols all threats to us came from the West and the Swedish Karl-12 was the last idiot to attack us alone. Since then Sweden has lost any interest to conduct wars. So NATO act very routine with the results quite predictable. Everybody is welcome ! If they seek for peace be it so but they seek for fame they took the wrong direction.

nato New Albanian Treaty Organization

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 14:03)

I've learned that whatever upsets you MikeC is in fact the right thing! Keep it up NATO! Upgrade every goddamn weapon you have and point them at Russia and Serbia! And if maintaining them becomes too cumbersome then they should just use them against Russia and Serbia. That would be the most cost effective way to dispose of them. Russia + Serbia + North Korea = Axis of Evil. USA! USA! USA!

Englishman

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 14:03)

Thats because the West/Nato use those Islamic terrorists to advance their global agenda,the latest example is the terrorism now being directed against Syria.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.

Englishman

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 14:03)

Thats because the West/Nato use those Islamic terrorists to advance their global agenda,the latest example is the terrorism now being directed against Syria.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

nato New Albanian Treaty Organization

Take a look at what your countrymen have acomplished accross Europe and then tell me who the real problem is. A majority of albanians are nothing but drugsmugglers, human trafficers and organ harvesters. Albanians are troublemakers. If you can't fight with serbs and macedonians you will fight amongst yourselves. You have not contributed to anything good, nothing. And your muslim friend accross the world are only interested in blowing themselves up together with women and children. And you think Serbia and Russia is the problem. We would be a problem to people like you if there was no America to support terrorism in exchange for oil.

Putin's left boot

pre 11 godina

Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said that he believes Russia and China are a threat to world peace......what a sick joke, what a sick man!!

Maybe someone should tell Romney that it is the United States who are waging wars in diverse places on this globe and that it is the bloody USA that is trying to surround Russia and China with a missile shield!!

Who is the threat to world peace Romney you thick American prize idiot!!

I'd like to see the US and their NATO allies try it on with the Russians and the Chinese, they ain't the little guys the US is so used to attacking and then opening their big mouths bragging they hit the little guy. USA, I dare you to try it on with Russia and China and see what you get I dare you you bloody cowards.

rote

pre 11 godina

After the Mongols all threats to us came from the West and the Swedish Karl-12 was the last idiot to attack us alone. Since then Sweden has lost any interest to conduct wars. So NATO act very routine with the results quite predictable. Everybody is welcome ! If they seek for peace be it so but they seek for fame they took the wrong direction.

nato New Albanian Treaty Organization

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 14:03)

I've learned that whatever upsets you MikeC is in fact the right thing! Keep it up NATO! Upgrade every goddamn weapon you have and point them at Russia and Serbia! And if maintaining them becomes too cumbersome then they should just use them against Russia and Serbia. That would be the most cost effective way to dispose of them. Russia + Serbia + North Korea = Axis of Evil. USA! USA! USA!

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 14:03)

Mike can you explain why Poland, Lithuania , Estonia, latvia asking USa to send forces and have some military presence in their territory?

I think they know quiet well that life under Russia is not fun same for your neighbor Finland.

Rumania as well wants the radar or mislas there so its not like NATO by force made this countries join like Warsaw Pact look at Gorgia wanting to join why since they do not if a country wants to join a organisation and it meets conditions why Russia is concerned ?

Let Russia creat its own pact with who they please ... and let them put Radars in Cuba .

Ataman

pre 11 godina

nato New Albanian Treaty Organization

Take a look at what your countrymen have acomplished accross Europe.....
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 19:45)

-----

Maybe someone should tell Romney....
(Putin's left boot, 12 May 2012 19:04)

-----

After the Mongols all threats to us came from the West and the Swedish Karl-12
(rote, 12 May 2012 18:41)


Uh-oh. I do agree with you guys sometimes, I do not agree with you guys sometimes. :-P
But here all of you made a strategic military mistake. I made the same mistake few times before - never again.

Writing an essay with a content other than sexual life of donkeys to someone with a nick like "NATO New Albanian Treaty Organization" is a waste of the grey cells energy. This is the same trollercoaster like "Bloody Mary" or "Miri" or whatever. (S)he is here just to provoke - very obvious from the very "intelligent" nick. Either don't feed a troll or feed him with donkey manure.

You know the routine: donkey ride uphill (or downhill, your choice), some girl (Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Korean, Cuban, Serbian, yada-yada-yada - your choice) in his whatever hand, her opposite side kidney in his other hand, she should scream (cry, yell, kick, yada-yada-yada) and the enire showing is chasing the car with Mongolian (Russian, Serbian, Korean, Macedonian, Greek, yada-yada-yada) license plates.

That's the only topic Baldy Bloody Beardy Mary does understand, the rest is beyond what her IQ is capable.

Adding few youtube clips about different comical donkey situations do not hurt.

Good one:

Very retarded Albanian singing for money to Russian tourists in Greece who pretend to be Americans.
This is for real and the most pathetic Albanian show you can find. Boys, the albotrollers love that clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cleMv4agkKA (I suspect, this could be one of the regulars here?)

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Mike can you explain why Poland, Lithuania , Estonia, latvia asking USa to send forces and have some military presence in their territory?"

Bilbao

Oh, I thought the US was placing the missle sheild to protect Europe from Iran. Isn't that the reason why? Russia is not waging wars all over the world like America. So who is the threat: America or Russia? Russia left Poland, Lithuania etc and they have never threatened to go back to those countries. In other words, your argument is a big fat lie.

LOLx2

pre 11 godina

This is great news! A NATO PR, political and strategic disaster in the making. There is not one single pragmatic argument as to what threat this is supposedly to protect Europe against, if not Iran, then who? F-35 are short ranged turkeys which will be even less stealthy when they actually exist, B-2s are obsolete white elephants.

Why should Europe poney up for this NATO protection racket? Germany doesn't even spend the demanded 2% minimum on defense and why should it?

It's pleasure watching the slow suicide of NATO and slipping in to irrelevance because of their inability to face reality. Goodbye to Obsma's NATO-Russia 'Re-Set'. It was funny whilst it lasted.

Recently the Senate Defense Panel sought to not cut spending. It was suggested to cut the federal Food Stamp program for the poorest Americans to Keep America Safe!

sj

pre 11 godina

The west is using Islamic terrorists to try and advance their cause, but the real question is the west capable of controlling those elements once the goal has been reached. One only has to look at Libya and what is going on right now and the answer to that question is a very big no. Libya is now a complete mess where fighting is going on between various groups such as the Islamist, tribes etc. Unfortunately what we have is the US not learning anything in the last twenty years but going in boots and all and coming out with nothing.
Syria is another good example. Even the Israelis are not keen of removing Assad because they know that what will follow is worse. However, as an old academic at university used to say, you cannot even legislate against stupidity.
As far as the US upgrading its nuclear missile system; go ahead upgrade them but be very prepared for civil uprising in the US very soon as roads and bridges go unrepaired, infrastructure crumbling before your very eyes, teachers, police, government workers being fired due to a lack of money. One out of every two university graduates in the US is either unemployed or under employed. But they want to upgrade their nuclear weapons. It was said before that if the EU goes into a second recession then this will cause even greater pain in the US.
This is more piss and wind US style, but please upgrade them and spend more on something that will do you no good.
The latest information coming g out from the Pentagon shows a great concern about care for US soldiers who are wounded and have ongoing physical and mental problems and require long term care. Well it seems that the cash cow has bolted and there is very little money for this now. Watch as thousands of these poor sods pour onto the streets and all the dangers associated with people like that. Fighting for freedom and having a leg or arm blown off and then being pushed out on the streets. I think they call this communal housing much like the existing metal pateients.

Mike can you explain why Poland, Lithuania , Estonia, latvia asking USa to send forces and have some military presence in their territory?

I think they know quiet well that life under Russia is not fun same for your neighbor Finland.

Rumania as well wants the radar or mislas there so its not like NATO by force made this countries join like Warsaw Pact look at Gorgia wanting to join why since they do not if a country wants to join a organisation and it meets conditions why Russia is concerned ?

Let Russia creat its own pact with who they please ... and let them put Radars in Cuba .
(Bilbao, 12 May 2012 19:53)

They don’t ask you. They tell you that the missiles are going there. Each of these countries have a democratically elected government that is extremely friendly to NATO. The Latvians/Estonians etc were never asked under the Soviets nor are they asked under NATO.
You are told.

Donkey Donna, the girlfriend of Joe Magarac

pre 11 godina

Russia + Serbia + North Korea = Axis of Evil. USA! USA! USA!
(nato New Albanian Treaty Organization, 12 May 2012 16:45)

Hey Baldy Mary with the new nick - that fun you suggest sounds like a donkey ride downhll, with one screaming Korean girl in your right hand, her left kidney in your left hand and chasing a car with Russian license plates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_5R1IhUTao

Just make sure, you can handle your donkey properly, otherwise bad things can happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-jAgkvGy8

Suspicious, suspicious... someone with that very "intelligent" nick could be only Bloody Baldy Beardy Mary alias Miri. In any case don't foregt to feed your anti-Russian strategic weapon properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEKipoGNtUQ

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

NATO is playing a dangerous game here, they need to fully understand that Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin which failed to hold NATO truly to account. Russia under Putin is a Russia that very keen on keeping an eye on NATO's actions, especially when it comes into Russia's back yard, NATO is playing with fire.

I have to add that it is really amusing when albanian trolls such as 'nato new albanian treaty organization' who come on here and give the big talk about NATO, it really is pathetic. Its like the cowardly kid in the playground who likes to pick fights but when he is challened he gets his stronger cousin to fight his battles for him, only to brag about how strong his cousin is, while he himself is a short skinny coward who cannot fight. When NATO diminishes then the albanians will be so alone, they will probably surrender without a fight.

Joe Magarac

pre 11 godina

Russia + Serbia + North Korea = Axis of Evil. USA! USA! USA!
(nato New Albanian Treaty Organization, 12 May 2012 16:45)

Let's have sex. May I see your a**, Mary?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=U3AMuA2A4nw&NR=1

Daniel

pre 11 godina

NATO countries are doing this because they need an angry Russia. This will increase the West's need to spend on armaments, which will boost the economy. This is all part of a global game and we the innocent civilians are nothing but pawns to global titans.

Donkey Hoxha

pre 11 godina

There's a name for such people.
(metrod, 13 May 2012 02:49)

Where's the windmill? I can't find it, only my buddy Sancho Panza is around riding his anti-Russian strategic missile.

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

I'd like to see the US and their NATO allies try it on with the Russians and the Chinese, they ain't the little guys the US is so used to attacking and then opening their big mouths bragging they hit the little guy. USA, I dare you to try it on with Russia and China and see what you get I dare you you bloody cowards.
(Putin's left boot, 12 May 2012 19:04)

I dear you to do anything to USA Mr Russia. you think USA is like Georgia? Why would USA attach Russia no need there is nothing there that we must have, I think you should worry of China more than USA as they sooner or latter will need your oil and resources in empty Russia.

metrod

pre 11 godina

Bilbao,
Don't waste your time trying to knock some sense into MikeC's head.
He's a lost cause.
If he had any integrity he would leave the West and move to Serbia, Russia or China.
Since he doesn't he'll stay put where he is. Same goes for the majority of the Western bashers on this forum.
They like what the West has to offer them but hate it when they side on the right side of justice. There's a name for such people.

icj1

pre 11 godina

NATO is playing a dangerous game here, they need to fully understand that Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin
(SCP UK, 13 May 2012 12:27)

Indeed, Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin... Russia has millions of people less then what it had under Yeltsin, and the number of Russians trying to emigrate is increasing.
http://www.economist.com/node/21528596

Cvele

pre 11 godina

Indeed, Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin... Russia has millions of people less then what it had under Yeltsin, and the number of Russians trying to emigrate is increasing.
[link]
(icj1, 13 May 2012 23:59)

What more can one say,

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2011/10/02/the-new-york-times-and-russian-emigration-negative-value-added-commentary/3/

Proof is in the pudding, Putin has reversed Boris's blunders;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Natural_Population_Growth_of_Russia.PNG

The cherry on top award goes too,

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/16/us/more-us-children-of-immigrants-are-leaving-us.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120416

Dude gets some reality in the diet....

nato New Albanian Treaty Organization

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 14:03)

I've learned that whatever upsets you MikeC is in fact the right thing! Keep it up NATO! Upgrade every goddamn weapon you have and point them at Russia and Serbia! And if maintaining them becomes too cumbersome then they should just use them against Russia and Serbia. That would be the most cost effective way to dispose of them. Russia + Serbia + North Korea = Axis of Evil. USA! USA! USA!

MikeC

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 14:03)

Mike can you explain why Poland, Lithuania , Estonia, latvia asking USa to send forces and have some military presence in their territory?

I think they know quiet well that life under Russia is not fun same for your neighbor Finland.

Rumania as well wants the radar or mislas there so its not like NATO by force made this countries join like Warsaw Pact look at Gorgia wanting to join why since they do not if a country wants to join a organisation and it meets conditions why Russia is concerned ?

Let Russia creat its own pact with who they please ... and let them put Radars in Cuba .

Englishman

pre 11 godina

NATOs actions are unbelieavable. Instead of acting against the threat from islamist terrorists they turn against Russia. The islamization of Europe is the biggest threat to our future and still Europe is turning their heads away from the real problem. Europe is loosing it.
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 14:03)

Thats because the West/Nato use those Islamic terrorists to advance their global agenda,the latest example is the terrorism now being directed against Syria.

rote

pre 11 godina

After the Mongols all threats to us came from the West and the Swedish Karl-12 was the last idiot to attack us alone. Since then Sweden has lost any interest to conduct wars. So NATO act very routine with the results quite predictable. Everybody is welcome ! If they seek for peace be it so but they seek for fame they took the wrong direction.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

nato New Albanian Treaty Organization

Take a look at what your countrymen have acomplished accross Europe and then tell me who the real problem is. A majority of albanians are nothing but drugsmugglers, human trafficers and organ harvesters. Albanians are troublemakers. If you can't fight with serbs and macedonians you will fight amongst yourselves. You have not contributed to anything good, nothing. And your muslim friend accross the world are only interested in blowing themselves up together with women and children. And you think Serbia and Russia is the problem. We would be a problem to people like you if there was no America to support terrorism in exchange for oil.

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

I'd like to see the US and their NATO allies try it on with the Russians and the Chinese, they ain't the little guys the US is so used to attacking and then opening their big mouths bragging they hit the little guy. USA, I dare you to try it on with Russia and China and see what you get I dare you you bloody cowards.
(Putin's left boot, 12 May 2012 19:04)

I dear you to do anything to USA Mr Russia. you think USA is like Georgia? Why would USA attach Russia no need there is nothing there that we must have, I think you should worry of China more than USA as they sooner or latter will need your oil and resources in empty Russia.

Putin's left boot

pre 11 godina

Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said that he believes Russia and China are a threat to world peace......what a sick joke, what a sick man!!

Maybe someone should tell Romney that it is the United States who are waging wars in diverse places on this globe and that it is the bloody USA that is trying to surround Russia and China with a missile shield!!

Who is the threat to world peace Romney you thick American prize idiot!!

I'd like to see the US and their NATO allies try it on with the Russians and the Chinese, they ain't the little guys the US is so used to attacking and then opening their big mouths bragging they hit the little guy. USA, I dare you to try it on with Russia and China and see what you get I dare you you bloody cowards.

metrod

pre 11 godina

Bilbao,
Don't waste your time trying to knock some sense into MikeC's head.
He's a lost cause.
If he had any integrity he would leave the West and move to Serbia, Russia or China.
Since he doesn't he'll stay put where he is. Same goes for the majority of the Western bashers on this forum.
They like what the West has to offer them but hate it when they side on the right side of justice. There's a name for such people.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

NATO countries are doing this because they need an angry Russia. This will increase the West's need to spend on armaments, which will boost the economy. This is all part of a global game and we the innocent civilians are nothing but pawns to global titans.

Donkey Donna, the girlfriend of Joe Magarac

pre 11 godina

Russia + Serbia + North Korea = Axis of Evil. USA! USA! USA!
(nato New Albanian Treaty Organization, 12 May 2012 16:45)

Hey Baldy Mary with the new nick - that fun you suggest sounds like a donkey ride downhll, with one screaming Korean girl in your right hand, her left kidney in your left hand and chasing a car with Russian license plates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_5R1IhUTao

Just make sure, you can handle your donkey properly, otherwise bad things can happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-jAgkvGy8

Suspicious, suspicious... someone with that very "intelligent" nick could be only Bloody Baldy Beardy Mary alias Miri. In any case don't foregt to feed your anti-Russian strategic weapon properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEKipoGNtUQ

Ataman

pre 11 godina

nato New Albanian Treaty Organization

Take a look at what your countrymen have acomplished accross Europe.....
(MikeC, 12 May 2012 19:45)

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Maybe someone should tell Romney....
(Putin's left boot, 12 May 2012 19:04)

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After the Mongols all threats to us came from the West and the Swedish Karl-12
(rote, 12 May 2012 18:41)


Uh-oh. I do agree with you guys sometimes, I do not agree with you guys sometimes. :-P
But here all of you made a strategic military mistake. I made the same mistake few times before - never again.

Writing an essay with a content other than sexual life of donkeys to someone with a nick like "NATO New Albanian Treaty Organization" is a waste of the grey cells energy. This is the same trollercoaster like "Bloody Mary" or "Miri" or whatever. (S)he is here just to provoke - very obvious from the very "intelligent" nick. Either don't feed a troll or feed him with donkey manure.

You know the routine: donkey ride uphill (or downhill, your choice), some girl (Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Korean, Cuban, Serbian, yada-yada-yada - your choice) in his whatever hand, her opposite side kidney in his other hand, she should scream (cry, yell, kick, yada-yada-yada) and the enire showing is chasing the car with Mongolian (Russian, Serbian, Korean, Macedonian, Greek, yada-yada-yada) license plates.

That's the only topic Baldy Bloody Beardy Mary does understand, the rest is beyond what her IQ is capable.

Adding few youtube clips about different comical donkey situations do not hurt.

Good one:

Very retarded Albanian singing for money to Russian tourists in Greece who pretend to be Americans.
This is for real and the most pathetic Albanian show you can find. Boys, the albotrollers love that clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cleMv4agkKA (I suspect, this could be one of the regulars here?)

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

NATO is playing a dangerous game here, they need to fully understand that Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin which failed to hold NATO truly to account. Russia under Putin is a Russia that very keen on keeping an eye on NATO's actions, especially when it comes into Russia's back yard, NATO is playing with fire.

I have to add that it is really amusing when albanian trolls such as 'nato new albanian treaty organization' who come on here and give the big talk about NATO, it really is pathetic. Its like the cowardly kid in the playground who likes to pick fights but when he is challened he gets his stronger cousin to fight his battles for him, only to brag about how strong his cousin is, while he himself is a short skinny coward who cannot fight. When NATO diminishes then the albanians will be so alone, they will probably surrender without a fight.

Donkey Hoxha

pre 11 godina

There's a name for such people.
(metrod, 13 May 2012 02:49)

Where's the windmill? I can't find it, only my buddy Sancho Panza is around riding his anti-Russian strategic missile.

LOLx2

pre 11 godina

This is great news! A NATO PR, political and strategic disaster in the making. There is not one single pragmatic argument as to what threat this is supposedly to protect Europe against, if not Iran, then who? F-35 are short ranged turkeys which will be even less stealthy when they actually exist, B-2s are obsolete white elephants.

Why should Europe poney up for this NATO protection racket? Germany doesn't even spend the demanded 2% minimum on defense and why should it?

It's pleasure watching the slow suicide of NATO and slipping in to irrelevance because of their inability to face reality. Goodbye to Obsma's NATO-Russia 'Re-Set'. It was funny whilst it lasted.

Recently the Senate Defense Panel sought to not cut spending. It was suggested to cut the federal Food Stamp program for the poorest Americans to Keep America Safe!

sj

pre 11 godina

The west is using Islamic terrorists to try and advance their cause, but the real question is the west capable of controlling those elements once the goal has been reached. One only has to look at Libya and what is going on right now and the answer to that question is a very big no. Libya is now a complete mess where fighting is going on between various groups such as the Islamist, tribes etc. Unfortunately what we have is the US not learning anything in the last twenty years but going in boots and all and coming out with nothing.
Syria is another good example. Even the Israelis are not keen of removing Assad because they know that what will follow is worse. However, as an old academic at university used to say, you cannot even legislate against stupidity.
As far as the US upgrading its nuclear missile system; go ahead upgrade them but be very prepared for civil uprising in the US very soon as roads and bridges go unrepaired, infrastructure crumbling before your very eyes, teachers, police, government workers being fired due to a lack of money. One out of every two university graduates in the US is either unemployed or under employed. But they want to upgrade their nuclear weapons. It was said before that if the EU goes into a second recession then this will cause even greater pain in the US.
This is more piss and wind US style, but please upgrade them and spend more on something that will do you no good.
The latest information coming g out from the Pentagon shows a great concern about care for US soldiers who are wounded and have ongoing physical and mental problems and require long term care. Well it seems that the cash cow has bolted and there is very little money for this now. Watch as thousands of these poor sods pour onto the streets and all the dangers associated with people like that. Fighting for freedom and having a leg or arm blown off and then being pushed out on the streets. I think they call this communal housing much like the existing metal pateients.

Mike can you explain why Poland, Lithuania , Estonia, latvia asking USa to send forces and have some military presence in their territory?

I think they know quiet well that life under Russia is not fun same for your neighbor Finland.

Rumania as well wants the radar or mislas there so its not like NATO by force made this countries join like Warsaw Pact look at Gorgia wanting to join why since they do not if a country wants to join a organisation and it meets conditions why Russia is concerned ?

Let Russia creat its own pact with who they please ... and let them put Radars in Cuba .
(Bilbao, 12 May 2012 19:53)

They don’t ask you. They tell you that the missiles are going there. Each of these countries have a democratically elected government that is extremely friendly to NATO. The Latvians/Estonians etc were never asked under the Soviets nor are they asked under NATO.
You are told.

Joe Magarac

pre 11 godina

Russia + Serbia + North Korea = Axis of Evil. USA! USA! USA!
(nato New Albanian Treaty Organization, 12 May 2012 16:45)

Let's have sex. May I see your a**, Mary?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=U3AMuA2A4nw&NR=1

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Mike can you explain why Poland, Lithuania , Estonia, latvia asking USa to send forces and have some military presence in their territory?"

Bilbao

Oh, I thought the US was placing the missle sheild to protect Europe from Iran. Isn't that the reason why? Russia is not waging wars all over the world like America. So who is the threat: America or Russia? Russia left Poland, Lithuania etc and they have never threatened to go back to those countries. In other words, your argument is a big fat lie.

icj1

pre 11 godina

NATO is playing a dangerous game here, they need to fully understand that Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin
(SCP UK, 13 May 2012 12:27)

Indeed, Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin... Russia has millions of people less then what it had under Yeltsin, and the number of Russians trying to emigrate is increasing.
http://www.economist.com/node/21528596

Cvele

pre 11 godina

Indeed, Russia isn't what it was in the 90s under Yeltsin... Russia has millions of people less then what it had under Yeltsin, and the number of Russians trying to emigrate is increasing.
[link]
(icj1, 13 May 2012 23:59)

What more can one say,

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2011/10/02/the-new-york-times-and-russian-emigration-negative-value-added-commentary/3/

Proof is in the pudding, Putin has reversed Boris's blunders;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Natural_Population_Growth_of_Russia.PNG

The cherry on top award goes too,

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/16/us/more-us-children-of-immigrants-are-leaving-us.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120416

Dude gets some reality in the diet....