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Saturday, 12.05.2012.

12:47

Progressives announce peaceful protests

Serbian Progressive Party (SNS) leader Tomislav Nikolić said on Saturday that the party would stage protests over the alleged election fraud as of Sunday.

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a New Day

pre 11 godina

Isn't it interesting how Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Merkel, or Westervelle, or other corrupt western windbags are completely silent on this fraud?? Yes, their silence is deafening, and speaks volumes.
I say it's because they support this fraud, and are desperate to give the quislings another 5 years to give away Kosovo and sell all of Serbia's crown jewels for cheap.
I certainly hope another revolution happens out of these protests, Serbia needs it badly.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 12 May 2012 15:06)
What is interesting is how you still think that Serbia is the center of the universe. # 1 claims of election fraud coming from the losing side is as common as breakfast cereal. Notice Nikolic's claims only surfaced once it was announced that a coalition had been formed, and the parties were throwing their support for Tadic in the runoffs.
#2 OSCE had declared the elections free, believe OSCE or Nikolic? I doubt many people wasted any time comtemplating that. #3 do you really think they were worried about who was winning the elections? Kosovo is gone and they know that and are not worried about it. #4 I doubt that 99.5% of Americans knew Serbia had an election, no one I know knew, and out of that .5% the majority did not even care.

icj1

pre 11 godina

The only ethnic cleansing that was EVER administered on the territory of ex-Yugosavia, was committed against Serbs by Croatia, "Bosnian" Muslims and Albanians... Not only once, but 3 TIMES in the past 90 years... The last one being the complete CLEANSING of the ENTIRE Serbian population (less a couple of hundred elderly) from the illegal boundaries of today's Croatia. You have a lot of guts to make such accusations. You want to talk genocide, then talk facts not here-say or "politically correct" non-sense! You should be ashamed of yourself, but I'll guess you don't know what that means...
(Dušan, 12 May 2012 21:26)

You are wrong dear, as proved beyond reasonable doubt by a Court set up by Russia, China & co...

Drago

pre 11 godina

Nikolic is desperate now that the SPS has agreed on a new period of coalition support for Tadic. He has spread these acquisitions to discredit Tadic, but has not delivered any evidence to the election commision! It is obvious this is a last attempt to influence the elections in his favour.

FusRoDah

pre 11 godina

There is no reason for Nikolic to participate in the second round. There will just fake results again. Boycott everything until these elections are nullified!

Dušan

pre 11 godina

@Deki...

The only ethnic cleansing that was EVER administered on the territory of ex-Yugosavia, was committed against Serbs by Croatia, "Bosnian" Muslims and Albanians... Not only once, but 3 TIMES in the past 90 years... The last one being the complete CLEANSING of the ENTIRE Serbian population (less a couple of hundred elderly) from the illegal boundaries of today's Croatia. You have a lot of guts to make such accusations. You want to talk genocide, then talk facts not here-say or "politically correct" non-sense! You should be ashamed of yourself, but I'll guess you don't know what that means...

Joachim

pre 11 godina

I don't agree with you on the rest of your comment, Bganon, but at least, I agree on that "All is fair in Serbian politics - the people are collateral damage, misled and manipulated..."
The only real opposition in Serbia is DSS and Nikolic and Cie are doing all it takes for to loose and let Tadic and his pro-western stooges continue to dismantle Serbia.
Ask yourself why...

Nenad

pre 11 godina

"Those statements are surely not helpful for his credibility, even if his accusations should turn out to contain some truth."
(Comm. Parrisson, 12 May 2012 16:01)

You hit the nail on the head, and credibility is something that Nikolic has always lacked. Maybe fraud occurred, but somehow I think that Serbs could probably benefit from that in the long run. I bet a lot of Americans wish that the Democrats had outdone Republicans in the Dirty Tricks department back in 2000.

"Isn't it interesting how Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Merkel, or Westervelle, or other corrupt western windbags are completely silent on this fraud?? Yes, their silence is deafening, and speaks volumes."
(Dragan, 12 May 2012 15:06)

Maybe -- or maybe people in the West aren't that interested. Given the utter lack of familiarity with Balkan affairs I routinely encounter in America, I tend to think it's the latter.

I suppose a lack of public interest on a specific foreign policy issue isn't always reflected in the level of effort on a country's diplomatic front, but in this case, it's hard to imagine Western governments being all that invested in the internal affairs of Serbia. They simply have much bigger fish to fry...a horrible economy, the rise of China, a presidential election in the US...Serbia just doesn't even show up on the radar.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

“I am inclined to think that (Democratic Party leader and presidential candidate) Boris Tadić never even entered the second round, but that this was projected,” he pointed out.

What does Nicolic want tell us?

1. Without the 'projected' manipulations, there would have been no need for a second round, instead he would already have be president (with more than 50% instead of his current 25%)?

2. Or that: Either Dacic (14%) or Kostunica (7%) would have been on 2nd place instead of Tadic(25%) and would compete with him now?

In what kind of dream world is this guy living, I wonder. Those statements are surely not helpful for his credibility, even if his accusations should turn out to contain some truth.

deki

pre 11 godina

Dragan if slobo and your similar friends wernt ethnic cleansing back then there would have never been any nato attack dont you think?

Dragan

pre 11 godina

Time for the people to rise up and throw out this corrupt quisling regime, the evidence that there was fraud is absolutely overwhelming. Had the DS yellow traitors lost and found the same type of evidence of fraud, they would be calling for a revote and annulment of elections, as would the NATO war criminals who control the DS regime. Isn't it interesting how Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Merkel, or Westervelle, or other corrupt western windbags are completely silent on this fraud?? Yes, their silence is deafening, and speaks volumes.
I say it's because they support this fraud, and are desperate to give the quislings another 5 years to give away Kosovo and sell all of Serbia's crown jewels for cheap.
I certainly hope another revolution happens out of these protests, Serbia needs it badly.
Cheers!!

bganon

pre 11 godina

I'm not sure of the legality of party protests in the middle of an election.
The realpolitik behind this move is obvious though - to drum up support for SNS for the second round of voting for Serbian president.

If Toma manages to be elected it won't matter whether the vote rigging claims turn out to be false.

All is fair in Serbian politics - the people are collateral damage, misled and manipulated...

Dragan

pre 11 godina

Time for the people to rise up and throw out this corrupt quisling regime, the evidence that there was fraud is absolutely overwhelming. Had the DS yellow traitors lost and found the same type of evidence of fraud, they would be calling for a revote and annulment of elections, as would the NATO war criminals who control the DS regime. Isn't it interesting how Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Merkel, or Westervelle, or other corrupt western windbags are completely silent on this fraud?? Yes, their silence is deafening, and speaks volumes.
I say it's because they support this fraud, and are desperate to give the quislings another 5 years to give away Kosovo and sell all of Serbia's crown jewels for cheap.
I certainly hope another revolution happens out of these protests, Serbia needs it badly.
Cheers!!

bganon

pre 11 godina

I'm not sure of the legality of party protests in the middle of an election.
The realpolitik behind this move is obvious though - to drum up support for SNS for the second round of voting for Serbian president.

If Toma manages to be elected it won't matter whether the vote rigging claims turn out to be false.

All is fair in Serbian politics - the people are collateral damage, misled and manipulated...

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

“I am inclined to think that (Democratic Party leader and presidential candidate) Boris Tadić never even entered the second round, but that this was projected,” he pointed out.

What does Nicolic want tell us?

1. Without the 'projected' manipulations, there would have been no need for a second round, instead he would already have be president (with more than 50% instead of his current 25%)?

2. Or that: Either Dacic (14%) or Kostunica (7%) would have been on 2nd place instead of Tadic(25%) and would compete with him now?

In what kind of dream world is this guy living, I wonder. Those statements are surely not helpful for his credibility, even if his accusations should turn out to contain some truth.

Dušan

pre 11 godina

@Deki...

The only ethnic cleansing that was EVER administered on the territory of ex-Yugosavia, was committed against Serbs by Croatia, "Bosnian" Muslims and Albanians... Not only once, but 3 TIMES in the past 90 years... The last one being the complete CLEANSING of the ENTIRE Serbian population (less a couple of hundred elderly) from the illegal boundaries of today's Croatia. You have a lot of guts to make such accusations. You want to talk genocide, then talk facts not here-say or "politically correct" non-sense! You should be ashamed of yourself, but I'll guess you don't know what that means...

FusRoDah

pre 11 godina

There is no reason for Nikolic to participate in the second round. There will just fake results again. Boycott everything until these elections are nullified!

Joachim

pre 11 godina

I don't agree with you on the rest of your comment, Bganon, but at least, I agree on that "All is fair in Serbian politics - the people are collateral damage, misled and manipulated..."
The only real opposition in Serbia is DSS and Nikolic and Cie are doing all it takes for to loose and let Tadic and his pro-western stooges continue to dismantle Serbia.
Ask yourself why...

deki

pre 11 godina

Dragan if slobo and your similar friends wernt ethnic cleansing back then there would have never been any nato attack dont you think?

Nenad

pre 11 godina

"Those statements are surely not helpful for his credibility, even if his accusations should turn out to contain some truth."
(Comm. Parrisson, 12 May 2012 16:01)

You hit the nail on the head, and credibility is something that Nikolic has always lacked. Maybe fraud occurred, but somehow I think that Serbs could probably benefit from that in the long run. I bet a lot of Americans wish that the Democrats had outdone Republicans in the Dirty Tricks department back in 2000.

"Isn't it interesting how Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Merkel, or Westervelle, or other corrupt western windbags are completely silent on this fraud?? Yes, their silence is deafening, and speaks volumes."
(Dragan, 12 May 2012 15:06)

Maybe -- or maybe people in the West aren't that interested. Given the utter lack of familiarity with Balkan affairs I routinely encounter in America, I tend to think it's the latter.

I suppose a lack of public interest on a specific foreign policy issue isn't always reflected in the level of effort on a country's diplomatic front, but in this case, it's hard to imagine Western governments being all that invested in the internal affairs of Serbia. They simply have much bigger fish to fry...a horrible economy, the rise of China, a presidential election in the US...Serbia just doesn't even show up on the radar.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Isn't it interesting how Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Merkel, or Westervelle, or other corrupt western windbags are completely silent on this fraud?? Yes, their silence is deafening, and speaks volumes.
I say it's because they support this fraud, and are desperate to give the quislings another 5 years to give away Kosovo and sell all of Serbia's crown jewels for cheap.
I certainly hope another revolution happens out of these protests, Serbia needs it badly.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 12 May 2012 15:06)
What is interesting is how you still think that Serbia is the center of the universe. # 1 claims of election fraud coming from the losing side is as common as breakfast cereal. Notice Nikolic's claims only surfaced once it was announced that a coalition had been formed, and the parties were throwing their support for Tadic in the runoffs.
#2 OSCE had declared the elections free, believe OSCE or Nikolic? I doubt many people wasted any time comtemplating that. #3 do you really think they were worried about who was winning the elections? Kosovo is gone and they know that and are not worried about it. #4 I doubt that 99.5% of Americans knew Serbia had an election, no one I know knew, and out of that .5% the majority did not even care.

icj1

pre 11 godina

The only ethnic cleansing that was EVER administered on the territory of ex-Yugosavia, was committed against Serbs by Croatia, "Bosnian" Muslims and Albanians... Not only once, but 3 TIMES in the past 90 years... The last one being the complete CLEANSING of the ENTIRE Serbian population (less a couple of hundred elderly) from the illegal boundaries of today's Croatia. You have a lot of guts to make such accusations. You want to talk genocide, then talk facts not here-say or "politically correct" non-sense! You should be ashamed of yourself, but I'll guess you don't know what that means...
(Dušan, 12 May 2012 21:26)

You are wrong dear, as proved beyond reasonable doubt by a Court set up by Russia, China & co...

Drago

pre 11 godina

Nikolic is desperate now that the SPS has agreed on a new period of coalition support for Tadic. He has spread these acquisitions to discredit Tadic, but has not delivered any evidence to the election commision! It is obvious this is a last attempt to influence the elections in his favour.

deki

pre 11 godina

Dragan if slobo and your similar friends wernt ethnic cleansing back then there would have never been any nato attack dont you think?

Dragan

pre 11 godina

Time for the people to rise up and throw out this corrupt quisling regime, the evidence that there was fraud is absolutely overwhelming. Had the DS yellow traitors lost and found the same type of evidence of fraud, they would be calling for a revote and annulment of elections, as would the NATO war criminals who control the DS regime. Isn't it interesting how Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Merkel, or Westervelle, or other corrupt western windbags are completely silent on this fraud?? Yes, their silence is deafening, and speaks volumes.
I say it's because they support this fraud, and are desperate to give the quislings another 5 years to give away Kosovo and sell all of Serbia's crown jewels for cheap.
I certainly hope another revolution happens out of these protests, Serbia needs it badly.
Cheers!!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

“I am inclined to think that (Democratic Party leader and presidential candidate) Boris Tadić never even entered the second round, but that this was projected,” he pointed out.

What does Nicolic want tell us?

1. Without the 'projected' manipulations, there would have been no need for a second round, instead he would already have be president (with more than 50% instead of his current 25%)?

2. Or that: Either Dacic (14%) or Kostunica (7%) would have been on 2nd place instead of Tadic(25%) and would compete with him now?

In what kind of dream world is this guy living, I wonder. Those statements are surely not helpful for his credibility, even if his accusations should turn out to contain some truth.

bganon

pre 11 godina

I'm not sure of the legality of party protests in the middle of an election.
The realpolitik behind this move is obvious though - to drum up support for SNS for the second round of voting for Serbian president.

If Toma manages to be elected it won't matter whether the vote rigging claims turn out to be false.

All is fair in Serbian politics - the people are collateral damage, misled and manipulated...

FusRoDah

pre 11 godina

There is no reason for Nikolic to participate in the second round. There will just fake results again. Boycott everything until these elections are nullified!

Dušan

pre 11 godina

@Deki...

The only ethnic cleansing that was EVER administered on the territory of ex-Yugosavia, was committed against Serbs by Croatia, "Bosnian" Muslims and Albanians... Not only once, but 3 TIMES in the past 90 years... The last one being the complete CLEANSING of the ENTIRE Serbian population (less a couple of hundred elderly) from the illegal boundaries of today's Croatia. You have a lot of guts to make such accusations. You want to talk genocide, then talk facts not here-say or "politically correct" non-sense! You should be ashamed of yourself, but I'll guess you don't know what that means...

icj1

pre 11 godina

The only ethnic cleansing that was EVER administered on the territory of ex-Yugosavia, was committed against Serbs by Croatia, "Bosnian" Muslims and Albanians... Not only once, but 3 TIMES in the past 90 years... The last one being the complete CLEANSING of the ENTIRE Serbian population (less a couple of hundred elderly) from the illegal boundaries of today's Croatia. You have a lot of guts to make such accusations. You want to talk genocide, then talk facts not here-say or "politically correct" non-sense! You should be ashamed of yourself, but I'll guess you don't know what that means...
(Dušan, 12 May 2012 21:26)

You are wrong dear, as proved beyond reasonable doubt by a Court set up by Russia, China & co...

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Isn't it interesting how Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Merkel, or Westervelle, or other corrupt western windbags are completely silent on this fraud?? Yes, their silence is deafening, and speaks volumes.
I say it's because they support this fraud, and are desperate to give the quislings another 5 years to give away Kosovo and sell all of Serbia's crown jewels for cheap.
I certainly hope another revolution happens out of these protests, Serbia needs it badly.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 12 May 2012 15:06)
What is interesting is how you still think that Serbia is the center of the universe. # 1 claims of election fraud coming from the losing side is as common as breakfast cereal. Notice Nikolic's claims only surfaced once it was announced that a coalition had been formed, and the parties were throwing their support for Tadic in the runoffs.
#2 OSCE had declared the elections free, believe OSCE or Nikolic? I doubt many people wasted any time comtemplating that. #3 do you really think they were worried about who was winning the elections? Kosovo is gone and they know that and are not worried about it. #4 I doubt that 99.5% of Americans knew Serbia had an election, no one I know knew, and out of that .5% the majority did not even care.

Nenad

pre 11 godina

"Those statements are surely not helpful for his credibility, even if his accusations should turn out to contain some truth."
(Comm. Parrisson, 12 May 2012 16:01)

You hit the nail on the head, and credibility is something that Nikolic has always lacked. Maybe fraud occurred, but somehow I think that Serbs could probably benefit from that in the long run. I bet a lot of Americans wish that the Democrats had outdone Republicans in the Dirty Tricks department back in 2000.

"Isn't it interesting how Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Merkel, or Westervelle, or other corrupt western windbags are completely silent on this fraud?? Yes, their silence is deafening, and speaks volumes."
(Dragan, 12 May 2012 15:06)

Maybe -- or maybe people in the West aren't that interested. Given the utter lack of familiarity with Balkan affairs I routinely encounter in America, I tend to think it's the latter.

I suppose a lack of public interest on a specific foreign policy issue isn't always reflected in the level of effort on a country's diplomatic front, but in this case, it's hard to imagine Western governments being all that invested in the internal affairs of Serbia. They simply have much bigger fish to fry...a horrible economy, the rise of China, a presidential election in the US...Serbia just doesn't even show up on the radar.

Drago

pre 11 godina

Nikolic is desperate now that the SPS has agreed on a new period of coalition support for Tadic. He has spread these acquisitions to discredit Tadic, but has not delivered any evidence to the election commision! It is obvious this is a last attempt to influence the elections in his favour.

Joachim

pre 11 godina

I don't agree with you on the rest of your comment, Bganon, but at least, I agree on that "All is fair in Serbian politics - the people are collateral damage, misled and manipulated..."
The only real opposition in Serbia is DSS and Nikolic and Cie are doing all it takes for to loose and let Tadic and his pro-western stooges continue to dismantle Serbia.
Ask yourself why...