Albanian parliament approves EULEX organ trade probe

Now it's time for the Serbian parliament to vote to allow the investigators to go through Serbian files to discover where this story originated.

This is a good development that follows the same policy of Albania towards this issue since its beginning. I recall the letters of intent sent to EULEX Mission in Kosovo expressing the willingness of the Government of Albania to give permission, facilitate and assist in any investigation pertaining to the accusation for organ trafficking as stipulated in the Martin Report.

For anyone who has basic knowledge of medicine, this whole story of organ trafficking seems very far fetched and simply impossible from the scientific point of view. This has been the conclusion of previous investigations and this is the reason for the outburst of the former UNMIK and French Foreign Minister, Bernard Kouchner (and the founder of Doctors Without Borders), during a visit in Gracanica in March 2010. In this event, FM Kouchner responded to a Serb reporters question about this subject: "Organ trade? But you are sick, aren't you? Do I look like someone who would traffic organs? You are insane, to believe all kinds of nonsense like that". Then he turned to Dr. Radmila Trajković and ask her to tell them how nonsensical this whole story was.

The story is scientifically impossible because the procedure cannot be done in any "yellow house" in the mountains and because the procedure was never done in Albanian hospitals till March 2009 ( with help from Italian doctors, Its in the news) let alone some God forsaken place far from roads.

To find the matching donor and recipient is very hard. Whole networks of hospitals cooperate together so they can mix and match people from many corners. For one operation you need months of preparations. "Tissue typing is done during the evaluation. This involves taking a sample of blood and analyzing it for markers on the white blood cells (antigens) that are used to match a donated kidney with a potential recipient." This is a bit more complicated than what the simple minded would believe.

Hypothetically, if one were to harvest an organ from a man, first, a series of tests were to be conducted in a laboratory and the data had to be relayed to a whole network of hospitals to find out if anyone is in need of that particular type of tissue. This implies a conspiracy of wide proportions. Second, it is highly unlikely that the "organ snatchers" had the medical expertise and medical equipment to deal with such complex procedures. Third, the organ would be useless upon arrival after the long and treacherous journey.

The first time this story was told, a great fuss was done about this yellow house, which is located in the rugged mountains of Northern Albania. The trek to there is long and painful. In that house, one could never create the proper sanitary conditions to perform these medical procedures without contaminating the organ, to put it mildly. When this house was written-off as a possible venue for such activity, Mr. Martin introduced for the first time in his report that the house was instead in Fushe-Kruje, a small town close to Tirana, because it was close to the Airport. First of all it is not the closest place to the airport; there are even neighborhoods located just outside the Airport perimeter. Second, all the necessary conditions must still be met. And, third, the only way Mr. Martin had ever heard of such an untouristic place is because it was visited by former American President Bush. He was welcomed there like a superstar hours after he had declared for the first time in Tirana that "time had come" for an independent Kosovo.

It is easier to believe what you are told and what you want to believe then to create your own informed opinion. A lot of things happened in that war, but this could not have happened. It is for this reason and with great confidence in its innocence that the Albanian Parliament in unison yesterday and the President today passed this law.

It's OK. When we albanians show the world that our hands are clean and our fighting for our freedom were fair and right, Serbia will still stand with it's hand dirty in blood. The albanians nation with stand proud when our hero Haradinaj is set free and this Marty raport showes false.

UCK were freedomfighters who fought against an agressive regime who was attacking villages and innocent people on their own land.

cool stuff, let the 3rd investigation get under way and when it finds nothing like the other, let cries of bias, lies, distortion, murder, kidnap, mysterious car crashes sweep these boards once more

LOL Nikolle...yeah you keep defending your organ trafficking KLA to the very end despite the fact they have done nothing to improve Albanian lives in Kosovo * and have taken billions in aid from the West that went no where.

Its ok, you and your sheep in Kosovo * keep defending criminals and you'll end up right where they end up...at best a jail cell in Belgrade at worst, deported back to Albania.

Ari Gold

who on earth is defending the KLA? can you not comprehend what you're reading? ok go slow now TWO investigations in this, NO evidence found. there will be 3, 4, 5....at what point do you say its over?

Imma have cola and chips ready for this. Just sit back and watch these clowns " investigate "

Nik- pot, kettle and black jumps to mind.

the truth is that you are not seeking for justice, the only justice that is accepted from you, is that in your minds.
You dont trust anything from the West right?..isnt Dick Marty one of them?
How come u accept his judgement?
We did what was right, approving the law, even though we dont believe that the facts that Dick Marty brought are real.

it would be a whole lot easier to allow for assumption of innocense if albania agreed to this right away. even lets say that they allowed for investigation to continue for 9+ years with our without concrete evidence.
i do recall some situations similar to that.

so would a third short term investigation be equivalant or less than 9 years of continual investigation?

perhaps this logic alludes to your opinions of say sesel's innocence (i mean 9 years -- 3 investigations), or considering without evidence to convict slobo too is clean?

pick a side and lets see what you pick.

UCK were freedomfighters who fought against an agressive regime who was attacking villages and innocent people on their own land.
(Demi, 11 May 2012 11:56)

__________

It is spelled "Albanian" with capital A.
I find it odd that supposedly an Albanian spells the latter with lowercase and takes the time to spell Serbian with uppercase in the same sentence.

"It's OK. When we albanians show the world that our hands are clean and our fighting for our freedom were fair and right, Serbia will still stand with it's hand dirty in blood. The albanians nation with stand proud when our hero Haradinaj is set free and this Marty raport showes false. "
(Demi, 11 May 2012 11:56)

Yes, your hands and the hands of your hero Haradinaj are clean! Almost as clean as the hands of the innocent Serbian 'hero' Milosevic who was murdered in the Hague because nobody could convict him as guilty :)

LOL Nikolle...yeah you keep defending your organ trafficking KLA to the very end despite the fact they have done nothing to improve Albanian lives in Kosovo * and have taken billions in aid from the West that went no where.

Its ok, you and your sheep in Kosovo * keep defending criminals and you'll end up right where they end up...at best a jail cell in Belgrade at worst, deported back to Albania.

It's OK. When we albanians show the world that our hands are clean and our fighting for our freedom were fair and right, Serbia will still stand with it's hand dirty in blood. The albanians nation with stand proud when our hero Haradinaj is set free and this Marty raport showes false.

UCK were freedomfighters who fought against an agressive regime who was attacking villages and innocent people on their own land.

cool stuff, let the 3rd investigation get under way and when it finds nothing like the other, let cries of bias, lies, distortion, murder, kidnap, mysterious car crashes sweep these boards once more

Ari Gold

who on earth is defending the KLA? can you not comprehend what you're reading? ok go slow now TWO investigations in this, NO evidence found. there will be 3, 4, 5....at what point do you say its over?

Imma have cola and chips ready for this. Just sit back and watch these clowns " investigate "

Nik- pot, kettle and black jumps to mind.

This is a good development that follows the same policy of Albania towards this issue since its beginning. I recall the letters of intent sent to EULEX Mission in Kosovo expressing the willingness of the Government of Albania to give permission, facilitate and assist in any investigation pertaining to the accusation for organ trafficking as stipulated in the Martin Report.

For anyone who has basic knowledge of medicine, this whole story of organ trafficking seems very far fetched and simply impossible from the scientific point of view. This has been the conclusion of previous investigations and this is the reason for the outburst of the former UNMIK and French Foreign Minister, Bernard Kouchner (and the founder of Doctors Without Borders), during a visit in Gracanica in March 2010. In this event, FM Kouchner responded to a Serb reporters question about this subject: "Organ trade? But you are sick, aren't you? Do I look like someone who would traffic organs? You are insane, to believe all kinds of nonsense like that". Then he turned to Dr. Radmila Trajković and ask her to tell them how nonsensical this whole story was.

The story is scientifically impossible because the procedure cannot be done in any "yellow house" in the mountains and because the procedure was never done in Albanian hospitals till March 2009 ( with help from Italian doctors, Its in the news) let alone some God forsaken place far from roads.

To find the matching donor and recipient is very hard. Whole networks of hospitals cooperate together so they can mix and match people from many corners. For one operation you need months of preparations. "Tissue typing is done during the evaluation. This involves taking a sample of blood and analyzing it for markers on the white blood cells (antigens) that are used to match a donated kidney with a potential recipient." This is a bit more complicated than what the simple minded would believe.

Hypothetically, if one were to harvest an organ from a man, first, a series of tests were to be conducted in a laboratory and the data had to be relayed to a whole network of hospitals to find out if anyone is in need of that particular type of tissue. This implies a conspiracy of wide proportions. Second, it is highly unlikely that the "organ snatchers" had the medical expertise and medical equipment to deal with such complex procedures. Third, the organ would be useless upon arrival after the long and treacherous journey.

The first time this story was told, a great fuss was done about this yellow house, which is located in the rugged mountains of Northern Albania. The trek to there is long and painful. In that house, one could never create the proper sanitary conditions to perform these medical procedures without contaminating the organ, to put it mildly. When this house was written-off as a possible venue for such activity, Mr. Martin introduced for the first time in his report that the house was instead in Fushe-Kruje, a small town close to Tirana, because it was close to the Airport. First of all it is not the closest place to the airport; there are even neighborhoods located just outside the Airport perimeter. Second, all the necessary conditions must still be met. And, third, the only way Mr. Martin had ever heard of such an untouristic place is because it was visited by former American President Bush. He was welcomed there like a superstar hours after he had declared for the first time in Tirana that "time had come" for an independent Kosovo.

It is easier to believe what you are told and what you want to believe then to create your own informed opinion. A lot of things happened in that war, but this could not have happened. It is for this reason and with great confidence in its innocence that the Albanian Parliament in unison yesterday and the President today passed this law.

Now it's time for the Serbian parliament to vote to allow the investigators to go through Serbian files to discover where this story originated.

it would be a whole lot easier to allow for assumption of innocense if albania agreed to this right away. even lets say that they allowed for investigation to continue for 9+ years with our without concrete evidence.
i do recall some situations similar to that.

so would a third short term investigation be equivalant or less than 9 years of continual investigation?

perhaps this logic alludes to your opinions of say sesel's innocence (i mean 9 years -- 3 investigations), or considering without evidence to convict slobo too is clean?

pick a side and lets see what you pick.

"It's OK. When we albanians show the world that our hands are clean and our fighting for our freedom were fair and right, Serbia will still stand with it's hand dirty in blood. The albanians nation with stand proud when our hero Haradinaj is set free and this Marty raport showes false. "
(Demi, 11 May 2012 11:56)

Yes, your hands and the hands of your hero Haradinaj are clean! Almost as clean as the hands of the innocent Serbian 'hero' Milosevic who was murdered in the Hague because nobody could convict him as guilty :)

UCK were freedomfighters who fought against an agressive regime who was attacking villages and innocent people on their own land.
(Demi, 11 May 2012 11:56)

__________

It is spelled "Albanian" with capital A.
I find it odd that supposedly an Albanian spells the latter with lowercase and takes the time to spell Serbian with uppercase in the same sentence.

the truth is that you are not seeking for justice, the only justice that is accepted from you, is that in your minds.
You dont trust anything from the West right?..isnt Dick Marty one of them?
How come u accept his judgement?
We did what was right, approving the law, even though we dont believe that the facts that Dick Marty brought are real.