Former "Kosovo Liberation Army" (KLA) commander Ramush Haradinaj, who was temporarily released from the Hague Tribunal, returned to Kosovo on Thursday.
It's undeniable, I agree. But still, it doesn't make the murders of civilians by the 'freedom fighters' any better. And good that you mentioned it: Serbian government uncovered crimes, Albanian government simply denies that crimes (like the organ harvesting) happened at all. The reason is: Nowadays, Serbia isn't governed by those people from the past with dirty hands any more, while Kosovo still is.
Btw: I agree, too, that crimes committed by Arkan's paramilitaries were worse than the crimes committed by KLA paramilitaries.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2012 22:24)
In Kosovo it was rare a 18 year old male was not in uniforme all Serbs where mobilized in Kosovo way before the war so very gray area there. How About Dacic he was there and he is still in Power???
I remember one of my fathers colleagues stoping us in entrence of our town after small chatter with my dad he waved us go home. This was al through Kosovo.
I am not saying that KLA hands are clean 100% they have also killed Albanians after the war but Serbias ever lasting etempt to justify the war in kosovo as K- Albanians issue is shameful.
Even OJ was not guilty glove did not fit he went to court and let judicial take control, Jeremic every day asks to investigate by UN organ case but same time Serbs do not belive in Hague which is under UN.
at the risk of sounding like an absolute tit, i hardly think desecrating graves (despicable though it is) is in any way comparable to Srebrenica. argue otherwise and you'll simply sound a fool. oh and many of those rioters from 2004 have been jailed. p.s. not true that KLA fighters have not been sentenced. you need to read more.
Comm
not one, but TWO investigations into the organ harvesting thing carried out, neither found any evidence. i did not say the murder of Serb civilians is in any way justified. i also said above that KLA fighters have been jailed for commiting those crimes, like, Lahi Brahimaj
nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 16:51)
1. Add everything up from 1999 to now.
2. Factor in not one perpetrator being brought to justice.
3. Factor in the clan-based mentality of the Albanian people protecting criminals from outside prosecution.
4. Factor in the manipulated media reports of 2004 focusing on Albanian victims instead of anti-Serb prgroms
5. Factor in key witnesses in sensitive trials conveniently getting killed
6. Factor in ordinary Albanian support for people who otherwise would be considered war criminals by them
And you have Srebrenica played out continuously by a group of people that commit genocide against justice while hiding behind a the US and playing the victim card over and over and over and over again.
And Serbia apologized for Srebrenica. When are Albanians going to apologize for even dececrating a Serbian cemetery, let alone March 2004?
".. but,it is undeniable that more Albanians were murdered in the last war than Serbs, we're talking about civilians now. serbia's own gov. has uncovered mass graves with Albanian bodies in them."
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 21:27)
It's undeniable, I agree. But still, it doesn't make the murders of civilians by the 'freedom fighters' any better. And good that you mentioned it: Serbian government uncovered crimes, Albanian government simply denies that crimes (like the organ harvesting) happened at all. The reason is: Nowadays, Serbia isn't governed by those people from the past with dirty hands any more, while Kosovo still is.
Btw: I agree, too, that crimes committed by Arkan's paramilitaries were worse than the crimes committed by KLA paramilitaries.
100's of examples with KLA's fingerprints on them? cool stuff, evidence please. it is indeed disgusting what i will say now, as human suffering is not be measured in body bags, but,it is undeniable that more Albanians were murdered in the last war than Serbs, we're talking about civilians now. serbia's own gov. has uncovered mass graves with Albanian bodies in them. oh and i like how you put freedom fighters in quotation marks, yes, i sometimes miss the peaceful Kosova that was in existence under the flower-loving-tolerance-preaching regime of Sloba. if only we could get it back!
nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 16:51)
True, but you could name 100s of minor crimes like killing dozens of Serbian civilians and other people who refused to cooperate with these 'freedom fighters'. Not to mention all the criminal activities used for financing the KLA (drugs, human trafficking, arms smuggling... and so on..)
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2012 19:48)
Give us the examples and dont change the subject Arkan how did he finance his tigers?
[http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h6aCvqDT_nLouzw8lwrY1fmYKEQQ?docId=CNG.8656ddaa8ac9757117861eb8130e5b32.5c1]
on the other hand Serbian crimes:
Following Milosevic's fall in October 2000, several mass graves were found in various parts of Serbia, and the remains of the Bytyqi brothers were excavated from a site in a special police base in Petrovo Selo along with those of 71 other people.
nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 16:51)
True, but you could name 100s of minor crimes like killing dozens of Serbian civilians and other people who refused to cooperate with these 'freedom fighters'. Not to mention all the criminal activities used for financing the KLA (drugs, human trafficking, arms smuggling... and so on..)
Once you prove your innocence before an international tribunal we will have a nice welcome parade for you when you get back.
(NATO New Albanian Teamster Organization, 10 May 2012 17:34)
You got enough money to buy a ticket from Chicago to fly there or are you planning on asking mum and dad for a loan?
Looking good Ramush! You seem to be in good spirits! Once you prove your innocence before an international tribunal we will have a nice welcome parade for you when you get back.
One thing you have to realize is that much of his crimes would have come out had all the witnesses been killed/threatened. Secondly..Srebrenica is the biggest distortion ever. The number killed has never been correct, and is a pure fabrication as far as numbers go..ive seen it go from 50,000 to 20,000, and now to 8,000, and as low as 4,000 when world org's started investigating to where all these graves and people were! It's called media..they hide what they want..they portray what they want in the worst way.
This guy brutally killed and several honest albanians were victims as well.. He will hopefully get sentenced once and for all. If not.. im sure there are some Serbs waiting to give him proper sentence. I can assure you this guy wont be living as a hero forever. Sorry to ruin your parade..but rest assure he's not safe at all.
I hope another task is to protect the witnesses now that this alleged criminal was allowed to return to Kosovo. Wouldn't be the first time that they are intimidated, suddenly disappear, have a 'car accident', commit 'suicide' or similar things.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2012 15:34)
There will be no need for that at all as the process of hearing the witness testimonies is finished.
The reason he was left to go home is because all that is left is the closing statements by both the defense and prosecution on the 25th and 26th of June or July.
conspiracy theories galore again. a bit like when limaj was released, you had people here writing shame and biased and all that, little realizing that his acquittal was decided by 2 EU judges. face it, Serbia has for a while tried to label the KLA as a terrorist organization and it has failed and failed big time. nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
“Among the tasks that EULEX police will carry out are escort of Haradinaj from and to Priština airport, meetings once a week and seizure of Haradinaj’s passport,” she explained.
I hope another task is to protect the witnesses now that this alleged criminal was allowed to return to Kosovo. Wouldn't be the first time that they are intimidated, suddenly disappear, have a 'car accident', commit 'suicide' or similar things.
Tststsssssss!
They (our internationals)needed to get rid of Haradinaj during the pseudonegociations,so they put him in Jail!And now that they(our internationals)have some troubles with thaci,who is no longer able to "control" the mess,they need Haradinaj to do the job as he did some years ago with the "korniza kushtetuese" during hakkerup and steiner mandate!
Not sure at all that albanians will accept this" play it again"scheme!
“Among the tasks that EULEX police will carry out are escort of Haradinaj from and to Priština airport, meetings once a week and seizure of Haradinaj’s passport,” she explained.
I hope another task is to protect the witnesses now that this alleged criminal was allowed to return to Kosovo. Wouldn't be the first time that they are intimidated, suddenly disappear, have a 'car accident', commit 'suicide' or similar things.
conspiracy theories galore again. a bit like when limaj was released, you had people here writing shame and biased and all that, little realizing that his acquittal was decided by 2 EU judges. face it, Serbia has for a while tried to label the KLA as a terrorist organization and it has failed and failed big time. nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
Looking good Ramush! You seem to be in good spirits! Once you prove your innocence before an international tribunal we will have a nice welcome parade for you when you get back.
Tststsssssss!
They (our internationals)needed to get rid of Haradinaj during the pseudonegociations,so they put him in Jail!And now that they(our internationals)have some troubles with thaci,who is no longer able to "control" the mess,they need Haradinaj to do the job as he did some years ago with the "korniza kushtetuese" during hakkerup and steiner mandate!
Not sure at all that albanians will accept this" play it again"scheme!
I hope another task is to protect the witnesses now that this alleged criminal was allowed to return to Kosovo. Wouldn't be the first time that they are intimidated, suddenly disappear, have a 'car accident', commit 'suicide' or similar things.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2012 15:34)
There will be no need for that at all as the process of hearing the witness testimonies is finished.
The reason he was left to go home is because all that is left is the closing statements by both the defense and prosecution on the 25th and 26th of June or July.
One thing you have to realize is that much of his crimes would have come out had all the witnesses been killed/threatened. Secondly..Srebrenica is the biggest distortion ever. The number killed has never been correct, and is a pure fabrication as far as numbers go..ive seen it go from 50,000 to 20,000, and now to 8,000, and as low as 4,000 when world org's started investigating to where all these graves and people were! It's called media..they hide what they want..they portray what they want in the worst way.
This guy brutally killed and several honest albanians were victims as well.. He will hopefully get sentenced once and for all. If not.. im sure there are some Serbs waiting to give him proper sentence. I can assure you this guy wont be living as a hero forever. Sorry to ruin your parade..but rest assure he's not safe at all.
nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 16:51)
True, but you could name 100s of minor crimes like killing dozens of Serbian civilians and other people who refused to cooperate with these 'freedom fighters'. Not to mention all the criminal activities used for financing the KLA (drugs, human trafficking, arms smuggling... and so on..)
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2012 19:48)
Give us the examples and dont change the subject Arkan how did he finance his tigers?
[http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h6aCvqDT_nLouzw8lwrY1fmYKEQQ?docId=CNG.8656ddaa8ac9757117861eb8130e5b32.5c1]
on the other hand Serbian crimes:
Following Milosevic's fall in October 2000, several mass graves were found in various parts of Serbia, and the remains of the Bytyqi brothers were excavated from a site in a special police base in Petrovo Selo along with those of 71 other people.
nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 16:51)
1. Add everything up from 1999 to now.
2. Factor in not one perpetrator being brought to justice.
3. Factor in the clan-based mentality of the Albanian people protecting criminals from outside prosecution.
4. Factor in the manipulated media reports of 2004 focusing on Albanian victims instead of anti-Serb prgroms
5. Factor in key witnesses in sensitive trials conveniently getting killed
6. Factor in ordinary Albanian support for people who otherwise would be considered war criminals by them
And you have Srebrenica played out continuously by a group of people that commit genocide against justice while hiding behind a the US and playing the victim card over and over and over and over again.
And Serbia apologized for Srebrenica. When are Albanians going to apologize for even dececrating a Serbian cemetery, let alone March 2004?
at the risk of sounding like an absolute tit, i hardly think desecrating graves (despicable though it is) is in any way comparable to Srebrenica. argue otherwise and you'll simply sound a fool. oh and many of those rioters from 2004 have been jailed. p.s. not true that KLA fighters have not been sentenced. you need to read more.
Comm
not one, but TWO investigations into the organ harvesting thing carried out, neither found any evidence. i did not say the murder of Serb civilians is in any way justified. i also said above that KLA fighters have been jailed for commiting those crimes, like, Lahi Brahimaj
Once you prove your innocence before an international tribunal we will have a nice welcome parade for you when you get back.
(NATO New Albanian Teamster Organization, 10 May 2012 17:34)
You got enough money to buy a ticket from Chicago to fly there or are you planning on asking mum and dad for a loan?
nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 16:51)
True, but you could name 100s of minor crimes like killing dozens of Serbian civilians and other people who refused to cooperate with these 'freedom fighters'. Not to mention all the criminal activities used for financing the KLA (drugs, human trafficking, arms smuggling... and so on..)
100's of examples with KLA's fingerprints on them? cool stuff, evidence please. it is indeed disgusting what i will say now, as human suffering is not be measured in body bags, but,it is undeniable that more Albanians were murdered in the last war than Serbs, we're talking about civilians now. serbia's own gov. has uncovered mass graves with Albanian bodies in them. oh and i like how you put freedom fighters in quotation marks, yes, i sometimes miss the peaceful Kosova that was in existence under the flower-loving-tolerance-preaching regime of Sloba. if only we could get it back!
It's undeniable, I agree. But still, it doesn't make the murders of civilians by the 'freedom fighters' any better. And good that you mentioned it: Serbian government uncovered crimes, Albanian government simply denies that crimes (like the organ harvesting) happened at all. The reason is: Nowadays, Serbia isn't governed by those people from the past with dirty hands any more, while Kosovo still is.
Btw: I agree, too, that crimes committed by Arkan's paramilitaries were worse than the crimes committed by KLA paramilitaries.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2012 22:24)
In Kosovo it was rare a 18 year old male was not in uniforme all Serbs where mobilized in Kosovo way before the war so very gray area there. How About Dacic he was there and he is still in Power???
I remember one of my fathers colleagues stoping us in entrence of our town after small chatter with my dad he waved us go home. This was al through Kosovo.
I am not saying that KLA hands are clean 100% they have also killed Albanians after the war but Serbias ever lasting etempt to justify the war in kosovo as K- Albanians issue is shameful.
Even OJ was not guilty glove did not fit he went to court and let judicial take control, Jeremic every day asks to investigate by UN organ case but same time Serbs do not belive in Hague which is under UN.
".. but,it is undeniable that more Albanians were murdered in the last war than Serbs, we're talking about civilians now. serbia's own gov. has uncovered mass graves with Albanian bodies in them."
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 21:27)
It's undeniable, I agree. But still, it doesn't make the murders of civilians by the 'freedom fighters' any better. And good that you mentioned it: Serbian government uncovered crimes, Albanian government simply denies that crimes (like the organ harvesting) happened at all. The reason is: Nowadays, Serbia isn't governed by those people from the past with dirty hands any more, while Kosovo still is.
Btw: I agree, too, that crimes committed by Arkan's paramilitaries were worse than the crimes committed by KLA paramilitaries.
One thing you have to realize is that much of his crimes would have come out had all the witnesses been killed/threatened. Secondly..Srebrenica is the biggest distortion ever. The number killed has never been correct, and is a pure fabrication as far as numbers go..ive seen it go from 50,000 to 20,000, and now to 8,000, and as low as 4,000 when world org's started investigating to where all these graves and people were! It's called media..they hide what they want..they portray what they want in the worst way.
This guy brutally killed and several honest albanians were victims as well.. He will hopefully get sentenced once and for all. If not.. im sure there are some Serbs waiting to give him proper sentence. I can assure you this guy wont be living as a hero forever. Sorry to ruin your parade..but rest assure he's not safe at all.
conspiracy theories galore again. a bit like when limaj was released, you had people here writing shame and biased and all that, little realizing that his acquittal was decided by 2 EU judges. face it, Serbia has for a while tried to label the KLA as a terrorist organization and it has failed and failed big time. nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 16:51)
True, but you could name 100s of minor crimes like killing dozens of Serbian civilians and other people who refused to cooperate with these 'freedom fighters'. Not to mention all the criminal activities used for financing the KLA (drugs, human trafficking, arms smuggling... and so on..)
“Among the tasks that EULEX police will carry out are escort of Haradinaj from and to Priština airport, meetings once a week and seizure of Haradinaj’s passport,” she explained.
I hope another task is to protect the witnesses now that this alleged criminal was allowed to return to Kosovo. Wouldn't be the first time that they are intimidated, suddenly disappear, have a 'car accident', commit 'suicide' or similar things.
Looking good Ramush! You seem to be in good spirits! Once you prove your innocence before an international tribunal we will have a nice welcome parade for you when you get back.
Once you prove your innocence before an international tribunal we will have a nice welcome parade for you when you get back.
(NATO New Albanian Teamster Organization, 10 May 2012 17:34)
You got enough money to buy a ticket from Chicago to fly there or are you planning on asking mum and dad for a loan?
".. but,it is undeniable that more Albanians were murdered in the last war than Serbs, we're talking about civilians now. serbia's own gov. has uncovered mass graves with Albanian bodies in them."
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 21:27)
It's undeniable, I agree. But still, it doesn't make the murders of civilians by the 'freedom fighters' any better. And good that you mentioned it: Serbian government uncovered crimes, Albanian government simply denies that crimes (like the organ harvesting) happened at all. The reason is: Nowadays, Serbia isn't governed by those people from the past with dirty hands any more, while Kosovo still is.
Btw: I agree, too, that crimes committed by Arkan's paramilitaries were worse than the crimes committed by KLA paramilitaries.
100's of examples with KLA's fingerprints on them? cool stuff, evidence please. it is indeed disgusting what i will say now, as human suffering is not be measured in body bags, but,it is undeniable that more Albanians were murdered in the last war than Serbs, we're talking about civilians now. serbia's own gov. has uncovered mass graves with Albanian bodies in them. oh and i like how you put freedom fighters in quotation marks, yes, i sometimes miss the peaceful Kosova that was in existence under the flower-loving-tolerance-preaching regime of Sloba. if only we could get it back!
nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 16:51)
1. Add everything up from 1999 to now.
2. Factor in not one perpetrator being brought to justice.
3. Factor in the clan-based mentality of the Albanian people protecting criminals from outside prosecution.
4. Factor in the manipulated media reports of 2004 focusing on Albanian victims instead of anti-Serb prgroms
5. Factor in key witnesses in sensitive trials conveniently getting killed
6. Factor in ordinary Albanian support for people who otherwise would be considered war criminals by them
And you have Srebrenica played out continuously by a group of people that commit genocide against justice while hiding behind a the US and playing the victim card over and over and over and over again.
And Serbia apologized for Srebrenica. When are Albanians going to apologize for even dececrating a Serbian cemetery, let alone March 2004?
nam me a KLA crime as horrid as Srebrenica? you can't
(Nikolle, 10 May 2012 16:51)
True, but you could name 100s of minor crimes like killing dozens of Serbian civilians and other people who refused to cooperate with these 'freedom fighters'. Not to mention all the criminal activities used for financing the KLA (drugs, human trafficking, arms smuggling... and so on..)
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2012 19:48)
Give us the examples and dont change the subject Arkan how did he finance his tigers?
[http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h6aCvqDT_nLouzw8lwrY1fmYKEQQ?docId=CNG.8656ddaa8ac9757117861eb8130e5b32.5c1]
on the other hand Serbian crimes:
Following Milosevic's fall in October 2000, several mass graves were found in various parts of Serbia, and the remains of the Bytyqi brothers were excavated from a site in a special police base in Petrovo Selo along with those of 71 other people.
at the risk of sounding like an absolute tit, i hardly think desecrating graves (despicable though it is) is in any way comparable to Srebrenica. argue otherwise and you'll simply sound a fool. oh and many of those rioters from 2004 have been jailed. p.s. not true that KLA fighters have not been sentenced. you need to read more.
Comm
not one, but TWO investigations into the organ harvesting thing carried out, neither found any evidence. i did not say the murder of Serb civilians is in any way justified. i also said above that KLA fighters have been jailed for commiting those crimes, like, Lahi Brahimaj
Tststsssssss!
They (our internationals)needed to get rid of Haradinaj during the pseudonegociations,so they put him in Jail!And now that they(our internationals)have some troubles with thaci,who is no longer able to "control" the mess,they need Haradinaj to do the job as he did some years ago with the "korniza kushtetuese" during hakkerup and steiner mandate!
Not sure at all that albanians will accept this" play it again"scheme!
It's undeniable, I agree. But still, it doesn't make the murders of civilians by the 'freedom fighters' any better. And good that you mentioned it: Serbian government uncovered crimes, Albanian government simply denies that crimes (like the organ harvesting) happened at all. The reason is: Nowadays, Serbia isn't governed by those people from the past with dirty hands any more, while Kosovo still is.
Btw: I agree, too, that crimes committed by Arkan's paramilitaries were worse than the crimes committed by KLA paramilitaries.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2012 22:24)
In Kosovo it was rare a 18 year old male was not in uniforme all Serbs where mobilized in Kosovo way before the war so very gray area there. How About Dacic he was there and he is still in Power???
I remember one of my fathers colleagues stoping us in entrence of our town after small chatter with my dad he waved us go home. This was al through Kosovo.
I am not saying that KLA hands are clean 100% they have also killed Albanians after the war but Serbias ever lasting etempt to justify the war in kosovo as K- Albanians issue is shameful.
Even OJ was not guilty glove did not fit he went to court and let judicial take control, Jeremic every day asks to investigate by UN organ case but same time Serbs do not belive in Hague which is under UN.
I hope another task is to protect the witnesses now that this alleged criminal was allowed to return to Kosovo. Wouldn't be the first time that they are intimidated, suddenly disappear, have a 'car accident', commit 'suicide' or similar things.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2012 15:34)
There will be no need for that at all as the process of hearing the witness testimonies is finished.
The reason he was left to go home is because all that is left is the closing statements by both the defense and prosecution on the 25th and 26th of June or July.
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