Where do I begin to answer this sea of incorrectness.
Its great to hear from all of you that you have so much faith in Boris Tadic and the groups in parliament that have ruined the country you (presumably) live in. But now the biggest opposition party in Serbia has joined to call saying the vote was definitely irregular. Why any of you would go at lengths to defend the DS and their satellites if beyond me. If you think Mladjan Dinkic had enough support to enter parliament while Dveri did not, you are completely out of your mind.
One of you said 3%?!?! Try 4.6% for Dveri (5% is the cut off) and the Radicals got 4% too. I don't care about the Radicals too much my self but it seems a little suspicious that both of these parties just miss the census while Dinkic who had no pre election momentum 'just' makes it. If you don't see a fundamental problem with that you are in denial.
And one of you trolls also said the Dveri protest was cancelled. You seem happy that democracy was suppressed? How are Dveri 'right wing hooligans'......you might be confusing with Obraz who hold rallies based on violence and disruption but that is not Dveri who for example is known for their 'family walks'.....but I guess all that is just too Serbian for you Europhiles who refuse to get your head out of your. . . despite the fact the EU will not be around in 5 years (at best).
There were some irregularities, but nothing that would make any serious impact to the election result.
What we are seeing here is sore losers, who instead of focusing on the shortcomings of their own actions, want to claim that the results were a mass fraud. There were observers at most polling stations and party activists were also present at the scene who could see the conditions under which people were voting.
The Dveri protest has been cancelled, as most of us don't particularly fancy the prospect of a right wing and hooligan mob on the rampage through Belgrade.
Yes, many people are not over the moon at the idea of the winning parties and their new government, but I'd rather have an elected government rather than the likes of Dveri, Obraz and assorted football hooligans trying to sieze power.
Hold your horses. There are demonstrations planned by Dveri who feel as if they were cheated. Obviously media shun Dveri but there will be a large protest at the RIK today and it could grow if more parties get behind it.
(Ari Gold, 10 May 2012 09:59)
Ari,
Get over it. Dveri lost along with the Radicals. The people have spoken. Democracy wins.
Yes, Ari. Those who won 3% of the vote (half coming from the diaspora who shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway) are the real winners here. If only a few things were different, they'd be in power now.
The Leader of the Socialist Party of Serbia Ivica Dacic has rejected suggestions that he was blackmailing anyone, but that he was looking for guarantees
He said that in order for either of the major Political Parties to form the Country's next government, it would have to secure the participation of the SPS.
That is the most probable reality, but it is not strictly true, because there can be a SNS, DSS, LDP, and URS Government, as unlikely as that is or may appear at the moment, or there can be a DS, DSS, LDP, and URS Government, as unlikely as that is or may appear at the moment, or there can be a DS and SNS Government, as unlikely as that is or may appear at the moment.
The Leader of the SPS said that it is only logical for one member of the ruling Coalition to hold the Presidential Office, while the other has the Prime Ministership, but the Media did not write what that logic was.
Could it be that the logic is to greedily monopolize power so as to continue corrupt practices, or is it logical to spread power as is one Principle of the Highest form of Democracy known to Mankind, and of safe Governing practice.
After 4 years in Coalition, it is a wonder that the SPS could not get some guarantees from the DS, because the opinion polls told them months in advance what the results are likely to be.
Dacic noted that his party would first talk to Boris Tadic, but explained that he found it unacceptable for the SPS to offer their support, and then discuss the issue of the government after the second round of presidential elections.
However, if both major Political Parties need the SPS as the Leader of the SPS has shown, then it can only be that he does not trust the DS, and I cannot blame him for that, or he wants the SNS to offer him the Prime Ministership in a SNS Government so that his friend Tadic can say that there needs to be some Political balance, because this will help Tadic win Votes, to help him become President for the third time in a row.
If Tadic is elected as President, then it is easy for the SPS to leave that Coalition with the SNS, and back to the DS, and some excuse will be invented to make it all look like it was not schemed.
The leader of the SPS is in a position to maximize his position, and therefore the overuse of the word blackmail is because Tadic has said that he will not be blackmailed.
This is because Tadic wants the Prime Ministership to go to the DS, and if Tadic is elected as President, then Tadic can be Serbia’s continuing one man rule.
I think the wise thing for the SNS is not to hold talks with any Political Party including the DSS until after the Presidential Election.
Tadic has said that he will not hold talks until after the Presidential Election, because he knows that if a Government is decided, then the Voters might want some balance in the Political Process, and may give the largely Ceremonial position of President to Tomislav Nikolic, and that is not what Tadic wants or even most probably even Dacic wants.
I think that the SPS and some others can and should wait until after the Presidential Election if they have things to negotiate on, or even blackmail on, perhaps the SNS should say that they know that the SPS will more likely form a Government with the DS, and under those circumstances the SNS will blackmail the DS to make Ivica Dacic the Prime Minister of Serbia.
I think that Tomislav Nikolic should ignore all of the noise, and only concentrate on convincing the Voters why he would make be the better President for Serbia.
More and more people will protest against vote theft by ruling parties. It seems that regime in Serbia is not better or should i say, worst, than previous lead by Slobodan Milosevic. Corruption, monopolistic, you name it..These elections in Serbia were fraud and everybody knows it. Ruling parties done everything to stay in power.. buying votes, false ballots, everything...Today one of opposition Parties, DVERI, will protest in front of government building and Progressives Leader will have press conference regarding election theft..Who knows..maybe people in Serbia will finally realize that Socialist and Democrats are nothing more than "bad company"...God help Serbian people in their fight for freedom and justice.
Hold your horses. There are demonstrations planned by Dveri who feel as if they were cheated. Obviously media shun Dveri but there will be a large protest at the RIK today and it could grow if more parties get behind it.
More and more people will protest against vote theft by ruling parties. It seems that regime in Serbia is not better or should i say, worst, than previous lead by Slobodan Milosevic. Corruption, monopolistic, you name it..These elections in Serbia were fraud and everybody knows it. Ruling parties done everything to stay in power.. buying votes, false ballots, everything...Today one of opposition Parties, DVERI, will protest in front of government building and Progressives Leader will have press conference regarding election theft..Who knows..maybe people in Serbia will finally realize that Socialist and Democrats are nothing more than "bad company"...God help Serbian people in their fight for freedom and justice.
Hold your horses. There are demonstrations planned by Dveri who feel as if they were cheated. Obviously media shun Dveri but there will be a large protest at the RIK today and it could grow if more parties get behind it.
There were some irregularities, but nothing that would make any serious impact to the election result.
What we are seeing here is sore losers, who instead of focusing on the shortcomings of their own actions, want to claim that the results were a mass fraud. There were observers at most polling stations and party activists were also present at the scene who could see the conditions under which people were voting.
The Dveri protest has been cancelled, as most of us don't particularly fancy the prospect of a right wing and hooligan mob on the rampage through Belgrade.
Yes, many people are not over the moon at the idea of the winning parties and their new government, but I'd rather have an elected government rather than the likes of Dveri, Obraz and assorted football hooligans trying to sieze power.
Hold your horses. There are demonstrations planned by Dveri who feel as if they were cheated. Obviously media shun Dveri but there will be a large protest at the RIK today and it could grow if more parties get behind it.
(Ari Gold, 10 May 2012 09:59)
Ari,
Get over it. Dveri lost along with the Radicals. The people have spoken. Democracy wins.
The Leader of the Socialist Party of Serbia Ivica Dacic has rejected suggestions that he was blackmailing anyone, but that he was looking for guarantees
He said that in order for either of the major Political Parties to form the Country's next government, it would have to secure the participation of the SPS.
That is the most probable reality, but it is not strictly true, because there can be a SNS, DSS, LDP, and URS Government, as unlikely as that is or may appear at the moment, or there can be a DS, DSS, LDP, and URS Government, as unlikely as that is or may appear at the moment, or there can be a DS and SNS Government, as unlikely as that is or may appear at the moment.
The Leader of the SPS said that it is only logical for one member of the ruling Coalition to hold the Presidential Office, while the other has the Prime Ministership, but the Media did not write what that logic was.
Could it be that the logic is to greedily monopolize power so as to continue corrupt practices, or is it logical to spread power as is one Principle of the Highest form of Democracy known to Mankind, and of safe Governing practice.
After 4 years in Coalition, it is a wonder that the SPS could not get some guarantees from the DS, because the opinion polls told them months in advance what the results are likely to be.
Dacic noted that his party would first talk to Boris Tadic, but explained that he found it unacceptable for the SPS to offer their support, and then discuss the issue of the government after the second round of presidential elections.
However, if both major Political Parties need the SPS as the Leader of the SPS has shown, then it can only be that he does not trust the DS, and I cannot blame him for that, or he wants the SNS to offer him the Prime Ministership in a SNS Government so that his friend Tadic can say that there needs to be some Political balance, because this will help Tadic win Votes, to help him become President for the third time in a row.
If Tadic is elected as President, then it is easy for the SPS to leave that Coalition with the SNS, and back to the DS, and some excuse will be invented to make it all look like it was not schemed.
The leader of the SPS is in a position to maximize his position, and therefore the overuse of the word blackmail is because Tadic has said that he will not be blackmailed.
This is because Tadic wants the Prime Ministership to go to the DS, and if Tadic is elected as President, then Tadic can be Serbia’s continuing one man rule.
I think the wise thing for the SNS is not to hold talks with any Political Party including the DSS until after the Presidential Election.
Tadic has said that he will not hold talks until after the Presidential Election, because he knows that if a Government is decided, then the Voters might want some balance in the Political Process, and may give the largely Ceremonial position of President to Tomislav Nikolic, and that is not what Tadic wants or even most probably even Dacic wants.
I think that the SPS and some others can and should wait until after the Presidential Election if they have things to negotiate on, or even blackmail on, perhaps the SNS should say that they know that the SPS will more likely form a Government with the DS, and under those circumstances the SNS will blackmail the DS to make Ivica Dacic the Prime Minister of Serbia.
I think that Tomislav Nikolic should ignore all of the noise, and only concentrate on convincing the Voters why he would make be the better President for Serbia.
Yes, Ari. Those who won 3% of the vote (half coming from the diaspora who shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway) are the real winners here. If only a few things were different, they'd be in power now.
Where do I begin to answer this sea of incorrectness.
Its great to hear from all of you that you have so much faith in Boris Tadic and the groups in parliament that have ruined the country you (presumably) live in. But now the biggest opposition party in Serbia has joined to call saying the vote was definitely irregular. Why any of you would go at lengths to defend the DS and their satellites if beyond me. If you think Mladjan Dinkic had enough support to enter parliament while Dveri did not, you are completely out of your mind.
One of you said 3%?!?! Try 4.6% for Dveri (5% is the cut off) and the Radicals got 4% too. I don't care about the Radicals too much my self but it seems a little suspicious that both of these parties just miss the census while Dinkic who had no pre election momentum 'just' makes it. If you don't see a fundamental problem with that you are in denial.
And one of you trolls also said the Dveri protest was cancelled. You seem happy that democracy was suppressed? How are Dveri 'right wing hooligans'......you might be confusing with Obraz who hold rallies based on violence and disruption but that is not Dveri who for example is known for their 'family walks'.....but I guess all that is just too Serbian for you Europhiles who refuse to get your head out of your. . . despite the fact the EU will not be around in 5 years (at best).
Hold your horses. There are demonstrations planned by Dveri who feel as if they were cheated. Obviously media shun Dveri but there will be a large protest at the RIK today and it could grow if more parties get behind it.
(Ari Gold, 10 May 2012 09:59)
Ari,
Get over it. Dveri lost along with the Radicals. The people have spoken. Democracy wins.
Where do I begin to answer this sea of incorrectness.
Its great to hear from all of you that you have so much faith in Boris Tadic and the groups in parliament that have ruined the country you (presumably) live in. But now the biggest opposition party in Serbia has joined to call saying the vote was definitely irregular. Why any of you would go at lengths to defend the DS and their satellites if beyond me. If you think Mladjan Dinkic had enough support to enter parliament while Dveri did not, you are completely out of your mind.
One of you said 3%?!?! Try 4.6% for Dveri (5% is the cut off) and the Radicals got 4% too. I don't care about the Radicals too much my self but it seems a little suspicious that both of these parties just miss the census while Dinkic who had no pre election momentum 'just' makes it. If you don't see a fundamental problem with that you are in denial.
And one of you trolls also said the Dveri protest was cancelled. You seem happy that democracy was suppressed? How are Dveri 'right wing hooligans'......you might be confusing with Obraz who hold rallies based on violence and disruption but that is not Dveri who for example is known for their 'family walks'.....but I guess all that is just too Serbian for you Europhiles who refuse to get your head out of your. . . despite the fact the EU will not be around in 5 years (at best).
Yes, Ari. Those who won 3% of the vote (half coming from the diaspora who shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway) are the real winners here. If only a few things were different, they'd be in power now.
There were some irregularities, but nothing that would make any serious impact to the election result.
What we are seeing here is sore losers, who instead of focusing on the shortcomings of their own actions, want to claim that the results were a mass fraud. There were observers at most polling stations and party activists were also present at the scene who could see the conditions under which people were voting.
The Dveri protest has been cancelled, as most of us don't particularly fancy the prospect of a right wing and hooligan mob on the rampage through Belgrade.
Yes, many people are not over the moon at the idea of the winning parties and their new government, but I'd rather have an elected government rather than the likes of Dveri, Obraz and assorted football hooligans trying to sieze power.
Hold your horses. There are demonstrations planned by Dveri who feel as if they were cheated. Obviously media shun Dveri but there will be a large protest at the RIK today and it could grow if more parties get behind it.
The Leader of the Socialist Party of Serbia Ivica Dacic has rejected suggestions that he was blackmailing anyone, but that he was looking for guarantees
He said that in order for either of the major Political Parties to form the Country's next government, it would have to secure the participation of the SPS.
That is the most probable reality, but it is not strictly true, because there can be a SNS, DSS, LDP, and URS Government, as unlikely as that is or may appear at the moment, or there can be a DS, DSS, LDP, and URS Government, as unlikely as that is or may appear at the moment, or there can be a DS and SNS Government, as unlikely as that is or may appear at the moment.
The Leader of the SPS said that it is only logical for one member of the ruling Coalition to hold the Presidential Office, while the other has the Prime Ministership, but the Media did not write what that logic was.
Could it be that the logic is to greedily monopolize power so as to continue corrupt practices, or is it logical to spread power as is one Principle of the Highest form of Democracy known to Mankind, and of safe Governing practice.
After 4 years in Coalition, it is a wonder that the SPS could not get some guarantees from the DS, because the opinion polls told them months in advance what the results are likely to be.
Dacic noted that his party would first talk to Boris Tadic, but explained that he found it unacceptable for the SPS to offer their support, and then discuss the issue of the government after the second round of presidential elections.
However, if both major Political Parties need the SPS as the Leader of the SPS has shown, then it can only be that he does not trust the DS, and I cannot blame him for that, or he wants the SNS to offer him the Prime Ministership in a SNS Government so that his friend Tadic can say that there needs to be some Political balance, because this will help Tadic win Votes, to help him become President for the third time in a row.
If Tadic is elected as President, then it is easy for the SPS to leave that Coalition with the SNS, and back to the DS, and some excuse will be invented to make it all look like it was not schemed.
The leader of the SPS is in a position to maximize his position, and therefore the overuse of the word blackmail is because Tadic has said that he will not be blackmailed.
This is because Tadic wants the Prime Ministership to go to the DS, and if Tadic is elected as President, then Tadic can be Serbia’s continuing one man rule.
I think the wise thing for the SNS is not to hold talks with any Political Party including the DSS until after the Presidential Election.
Tadic has said that he will not hold talks until after the Presidential Election, because he knows that if a Government is decided, then the Voters might want some balance in the Political Process, and may give the largely Ceremonial position of President to Tomislav Nikolic, and that is not what Tadic wants or even most probably even Dacic wants.
I think that the SPS and some others can and should wait until after the Presidential Election if they have things to negotiate on, or even blackmail on, perhaps the SNS should say that they know that the SPS will more likely form a Government with the DS, and under those circumstances the SNS will blackmail the DS to make Ivica Dacic the Prime Minister of Serbia.
I think that Tomislav Nikolic should ignore all of the noise, and only concentrate on convincing the Voters why he would make be the better President for Serbia.
More and more people will protest against vote theft by ruling parties. It seems that regime in Serbia is not better or should i say, worst, than previous lead by Slobodan Milosevic. Corruption, monopolistic, you name it..These elections in Serbia were fraud and everybody knows it. Ruling parties done everything to stay in power.. buying votes, false ballots, everything...Today one of opposition Parties, DVERI, will protest in front of government building and Progressives Leader will have press conference regarding election theft..Who knows..maybe people in Serbia will finally realize that Socialist and Democrats are nothing more than "bad company"...God help Serbian people in their fight for freedom and justice.
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