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Friday, 04.05.2012.

11:11

“Violence can break out in Kosovo”

Military Intelligence Agency (VOA) Director Brigadier General Dragan Vladisavljević says that violence could break out in Kosovo.

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aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Glen I ask Serbs why is it ok for them to have Vojvodina which was Hungarian and now Serbian Majority maybe because Hungarians did not build enough churches ????
(Engineer, 5 May 2012 07:42)

A lot of things were done in the past, but international law values status quo and common sense also values preservation of status quo (preservation of territorial integrity of Serbia including Kosovo that is) if there are no clearly better solutions. In case of Kosovo its separation (at least the way it tries to do it) isn't better solution, because Kosovo has Serbian residents oppressed by Albanians.

lili

pre 11 godina

great news indeed! And you must learn to read the true news under these words:each time serbs annonce albanian actions(as if we were waiting for their autorisation!)it reveals their difficulties in their own country,and albanians are then only a diversion!So when this guy annonces that we are going-surely under his order?- to act,you have to understand that situation in serbia proper is very bad!That's a great news for albanians,who do not need to act,but just to wait:you do the job better than us for,each time you convince more albanians that definitively we have nothing to do with you and each time you strengthen albanian nationalism!So just go on!(And please, we are not as stupid as to please you and act as you want us to act,we do know to "read" serbian declaration better than you!)

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Not to defend what happened in 2004 (since it was inexcusable, and viewed by disdain even by most Albanians in Kosovo), but I do have one question. Who would be safer right now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo or an Albanian living in northern Kosovo? I think it would probably be the Serbian living in south Kosovo."
(Glenn, 4 May 2012 21:41)

Maybe, but then it's only because Serbs in southern Kosovo live in enclaves, ofter protected by KFOR and in some cases behind barbed wires to create a 'safe environment'. In case they leave, their cars and buses are often stoned regularly by ethnic Albanian mob (a.k.a. 'playing kids', that's how the multi-ethnic democratic KPS is downplaying these incidents instead of arresting the perpetrators). Not the kind of 'safety' I wished even for my worst enemy.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I do have one question. Who would be safer right now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo or an Albanian living in northern Kosovo?
(Glenn)

And who would be safer now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo, say in Prishtina (is there any one left?) or an Albanian living in central Serbia, say in Belgrade?

Just me

pre 11 godina

One should learn from the Bosnia war. At the end where two entity learned to live together.
Serbian Said they will give passport to the Kosovo people if they take the Serbian oath I ask lots of people of Kosovo if they will do it answer was in a second.
Ask why, to start a better life elsewhere. With 43 percent with no jobs one cannot blame them. It’s the new generation that needs to be taught, with this new generation of families having eight kids just don’t make lots of sense, lots of kids drop out of school at a young age to take care of their family needs where the only working member (Father) works at anything he can get his hand on, families living on 30 Euros a month for food. One sees what future in store for the kids walking around with all the things that other kids have, latest gadgets same as the kids in the western side of the world. How can they afford all this? I call on the government to educate their people and to start new programs that will benefit the young and old for a better life in Kosovo. I was told by my father if I work hard I will succeed.
He told me one is born with every tool one needs brain to think, hands to grab, legs to walk to get you to where you’re going. It’s up to you to make the best out of what you have.

Engineer

pre 11 godina

by thye way, wehre di you this mythical figure of 250000 less serbs since 2004? Belgrades own statistcs, quoted in books assert that there 160000 Serbs in Kosovo in 1997! are you telling me that in 7 years, another 70000 of them sprang up? really, stop believing your clergy left right and centre
(Nikolle, 4 May 2012 21:38)

yes about 65,000 of them from Croatia thats how I was introduced to Serbian word Izbeglice which did not translate so well in Albanian as a kid 15years of age.

But people like CG show pride in kicking and lowering number of Albanins in Serbia.

So as the old word let them show their own stripes you see Serbs how they cheer others being forced out but cry when someone jails Serbian Police living in Kosovo.

Glen I ask Serbs why is it ok for them to have Vojvodina which was Hungarian and now Serbian Majority maybe because Hungarians did not build enough churches ????

a New Day

pre 11 godina

nikolle...
how soon you seem to forget... the last group to commit ethnic cleansing (by definition), burn and intimidate people did it in 2004.
in that year, you and your loved ones ruled the roost in pristina, not the serbs. 1/4 million serbs less since 2004. 150000 albanians more since 1999... who cleansed whom?
(2004, 4 May 2012 20:25)
When you manipulate the numbers it throws the entire argument out the window. In order for 1/4 million Serbs left since 2004, there would be no Serbian elections this weekend.
The numbers are disputed and since Serbs tended to boycott the census the numbers are only estimates which range from 120-150 thousand Serbs. The highest population was 271 thousand in 1971. Thousands left (documented) post 1999 for fear of reprisals once the Serb military left.
But yet you claim another 250,000 have left since 2004.
Maybe it is the NEW math or maybe someone does not have their facts together.

Glenn

pre 11 godina

nikolle...
how soon you seem to forget... the last group to commit ethnic cleansing (by definition), burn and intimidate people did it in 2004.
in that year, you and your loved ones ruled the roost in pristina, not the serbs. 1/4 million serbs less since 2004. 150000 albanians more since 1999... who cleansed whom?
(2004, 4 May 2012 20:25)

Not to defend what happened in 2004 (since it was inexcusable, and viewed by disdain even by most Albanians in Kosovo), but I do have one question. Who would be safer right now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo or an Albanian living in northern Kosovo? I think it would probably be the Serbian living in south Kosovo.

Most of the time, Albanians and Serbians in Kosovo live in harmony with each other (granted, with a little mistrust still). I don't sense the universal hatred of Serbians that you seem to think every Albanian must have. In fact, if anything, I always get a feeling of "live and let live." For that matter, at a recent trade show in Macedonia, some of my Albanian employees were having friendly conversations with employees of a Serbian company. When they talked to people around Skopje who didn't know English, they used their limited Serbian language to communicate, and didn't seem to mind doing so.

The time for violence is past, and it doesn't really matter who owned what 500 years ago, whether Albanians are descendants of Ilyrians or not, or what happened in the period of Ottoman occupation. We live in 2012, and should be thinking about 2015 and 2020 for the sake of our children. All this talk about history is interesting, but I can't see how it helps to shape a brighter future.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

by thye way, wehre di you this mythical figure of 250000 less serbs since 2004? Belgrades own statistcs, quoted in books assert that there 160000 Serbs in Kosovo in 1997! are you telling me that in 7 years, another 70000 of them sprang up? really, stop believing your clergy left right and centre

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

You killed a police officer, you set road blocks all over the north, you bombed a house killed a man and injured 3 of his children, you arrested 2 border police officers, you arrested 3 citizens of Kosova, today you arrested 8 other Albanians, your vice-PM is speaking as frustrated house wife and your generals "predict" unrest in kosova???
(Albanian)

Albanians are really very noble people. Inspite of a lot of problems in a land where they constitute a majority: poverty, corruption, poor helth care and education, high unemployment and criminal rate, there is nothing more important for them, then bringing their Serbian neighbours from Northern Kosovo from Darkness to Light and Obidience to the Law. Very selfless behavior indeed. Nothing can stop them from fulfilling this noble task - let somebody say that Kosovo is very disputed territory, so it is unclear which law should its inhabitans obey. One couldn't confuse Albanians with such doubts - they keep sending messengers of Light and Law to that place of Darkness. Messengers are not invited, but that's the desteny of all those designed to improve people's morality... :))) Their own children can wait...

exKFOR to Nikolle Amatullah

pre 11 godina

i do not see village burning or ethnic cleansing now do i?
(Nikolle, 4 May 2012 15:02)

yes, one does not see that now as Albanian jihadists have already almost 100% fulfilled their plans on killing infidels and carrying out a genocide in Serbian province KiM. But I saw that in March 2004, marauding "civilians" using ambulance for weapon transportation and other dirty tricks to steal other peoples land...

2004

pre 11 godina

nikolle...
how soon you seem to forget... the last group to commit ethnic cleansing (by definition), burn and intimidate people did it in 2004.
in that year, you and your loved ones ruled the roost in pristina, not the serbs. 1/4 million serbs less since 2004. 150000 albanians more since 1999... who cleansed whom?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"You mean like drowning kids? "
(KOSO, 4 May 2012 16:17)

You mean some Albanian kids that didn't know how to swim and drowned because their parents didn't take a good look on them? Then they blamed Serbs for it, a bit later, Pristina media started a hate propaganda campaign based on nothing but lies and false accusations (as it was proven later, but too late), and the democratic and multi-ethnic Albanian mob looted and destroyed churches and monasteries? With such 'angels', no wonder that any minority doesn't want to live in a 'state' where these things are tolerated by highest officials.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

“The threats issued by ‘the Kosovo authorities’ that they will forcefully prevent the holding of the Serbian elections and abolish all the so-called 'parallel institutions' contributed significantly to that,” Vladisavljević told Belgrade-based daily Politika.

This is for show and internal consumption. They make a lot of noise but they can't do anything without international approval. Yes Albanians have a violent temper whenever they feel no one takes their threats seriously, but they stand to lose everything if another March 2004 breaks out. Most of their threats of violence these days comes over the internet only. If ROSU was stopped by a bunch of Serb civilians, think of what KFOR can do if the situation got out of hand. I hope it doesn't come to that but I wouldn't be surprised if someone with a death wish wanted to spark an outcry of violence.

ben

pre 11 godina

You killed a police officer, you set road blocks all over the north, you bombed a house killed a man and injured 3 of his children, you arrested 2 border police officers, you arrested 3 citizens of Kosova, today you arrested 8 other Albanians, your vice-PM is speaking as frustrated house wife and your generals "predict" unrest in kosova???

hmmm to me it sounds rather as a plan...

KOSO

pre 11 godina

He explained that the current situation in Kosovo was marked by inter-ethnic tensions which increased the likelihood of an outbreak of violence.

You mean like drowning kids? Throwing bombs in people's homes? Bombing embassies? Bombing Custom Borders? Putting up roadblocks? Killing policemen? ETC ETC.

With such angels as Serbs, who needs minorities?


Sincerely,

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

According to Vladisavljević, “in the mixed communities in northern Kosovo and around enclaves south of the Ibar River, one could see groups of armed Albanians.”

“Their mere presence is a form of intimidation, and some extremist groups have openly threatened that they would forcefully prevent the holding of the Serbian elections,” he was quoted as saying.


What proof do you have to back up your silly statement?

Steve B.

pre 11 godina

You arrest our officers inside their border, then you kidnapp them into Serbia and pose with them as they were criminals. You arrest civilians accusing them of war crimes just 2 day befor the serbian elections, so frankly I wouldnt be surprised if it did.
(Pejoni, 4 May 2012 11:52)

Where's the proof? Exactly. Keep lying. That's all you guys do. Don't fabricate stories because your idiotic "police" can't use a gps tracker.

trizo

pre 11 godina

gutless Albanians, as weak as they come.

Herroin, prostitutes, organ trading and other black market mafia ops, who ya gonna call? AL-Banians

reader

pre 11 godina

Violence between the state Kosovo belongs too and not civilians, but the terrorist KLA who are temporarily occupying it.

(Ari Gold, 4 May 2012 11:54)

Interesting point of view. What about civilians?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Comm. Parrisson

Really interesting., how can there be peace, when 9/10 who live in Kosova want nothing to do with Belgrade and Belgrade swears it will coerce them into changing their mind? how can there be peace, when the bodies of Albanians murdered in the war, are still in Serbia's mass graves and not yet returned to their loved ones. you really don't kno what you're talking about. btw, i have read your posts for a while, alb this alb that. how did kosova fare when serbs ruled roost? i do not see village burning or ethnic cleansing now do i?

Akim

pre 11 godina

@Bill
If there is any violent option, dangerous and nocuous for Serbia, you can be sure Serbian leaders WILL choose it. "The best prophet of the future is the past" Lord Byron. Compare situation on the Balkans (best on a map) 1989, 1999 and 2009. Yes this man talking of a new conflict might be right.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"As usual, another unreflective and redicules remark by a blind Serbian official. Peace can only come after Serbia finally faces his violent past, recognizes Kosovo and stops his support for the criminal structures in northern kosova. "
(Bill, 4 May 2012 13:42)

this could be a step, but a more important one would be the international actors final putting pressure on the criminal structures in South Kosovo which call themself 'Kosovo government'. They consist of former warlords, mafia bosses, election fakers and other 'honorable' persons. I'm asking: How can there be peace if those people from the past which are far away from any democratic standard are still in power after 10 years?

Bill

pre 11 godina

As usual, another unreflective and redicules remark by a blind Serbian official. Peace can only come after Serbia finally faces his violent past, recognizes Kosovo and stops his support for the criminal structures in northern kosova. It will. E payment time for serbia after the elections. The games these Belgrade clowns played for so long will come to an end, no matter who wins the elections. Serbia will be faced with reality, which means Europe or Kosovo. If it chooses Kosovo it means an even steeper decline into ecconomic caos, political turmoil or even war. Even this can't be ruled out when one hears and reads the moments not only on this web site. It is a tragedy to see that big pats of the Serbian public obviously are unable to reflect on their past and are unable to conduct any kind of forward thinking it just for their own country, but for the entire region. Serbia is in a real desolate condition.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

@Pejoni

Lol you seriously believe they were arrested in Kosovo, or are you just another albanian troll talking out of their backside? Those 'police officers' were not even in Kosovo, they crossed an artifical border which they created. They are lucky police found them before hunters did. ROSU are no match for anyone anyway, other than defenceless unarmed civilians of course. The only reason they havn't made a serious attempt at moving into north Kosovo is because they are scared, I doubt KFOR would be willing to spill their own blood to protect them, in fact I bet many KFOR soldiers on the ground (not high command) are sick of defending such animals, they will become less enthiusiastic to defend albanians as time goes on.

EA

pre 11 godina

"... and some extremist groups have openly threatened that they would forcefully prevent the holding of the Serbian elections,” he was quoted as saying."

They don't have to because the Kosovo institutions should do it. Internationals can help if they wish.

What about the Serbian "angels" in northern Mitrovica?

EA

pre 11 godina

"ROSU went into Northern Kosovo to try and impose their will on the Serbs and they were dealt a embarrassing defeat."

Ari,

Do you know the meaning of the word defeat? In other words what does it mean to you "being defeated"?

Where was Kosovo BEFORE the war and AFTER THE WAR? Think rationally and NOT emotionally!


"... defeat came at the hands of not the state, but of the local Serbian population."

What is the "local population" for you Ari boy/girl? In other words what is the meaning of "local population" for you...those who killed the ROSU policeman?


"With little resources, the Serbs ended up having the ROSU terrorists retreating back to the capital of the Organ Harvesting Republic with one less terrorist than how many they came with."

I really question your age when I read the above...NOT MORE than 16 years old. Ask your parents to bet it for you!

The Albanians did nothing about it.

"The only one that can defeat the Serbs in Kosovo are the strongest military alliance in the world."

Yes of course after turning on civilians in Kosovo as they could not reach the KLA. But ask your dad...before you go to bed.

"Luckily they wont be there forever and are looking to get out as soon as possible." Then the Serbs will be left unprotected....or you still think that "with little resources" they will manage to survive?

And last thing don't drink drive...! OK?

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Violence broke out last July. ROSU went into Northern Kosovo to try and impose their will on the Serbs and they were dealt a embarrassing defeat. I say embarrassing because the defeat came at the hands of not the state, but of the local Serbian population. With little resources, the Serbs ended up having the ROSU terrorists retreating back to the capital of the Organ Harvesting Republic with one less terrorist than how many they came with.

The Albanians did nothing about it.

The only one that can defeat the Serbs in Kosovo are the strongest military alliance in the world. Luckily they wont be there forever and are looking to get out as soon as possible.

When they do, yes there will be violence. Violence between the state Kosovo belongs too and not civilians, but the terrorist KLA who are temporarily occupying it.

Pejoni

pre 11 godina

You arrest our officers inside their border, then you kidnapp them into Serbia and pose with them as they were criminals. You arrest civilians accusing them of war crimes just 2 day befor the serbian elections, so frankly I wouldnt be surprised if it did.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Violence broke out last July. ROSU went into Northern Kosovo to try and impose their will on the Serbs and they were dealt a embarrassing defeat. I say embarrassing because the defeat came at the hands of not the state, but of the local Serbian population. With little resources, the Serbs ended up having the ROSU terrorists retreating back to the capital of the Organ Harvesting Republic with one less terrorist than how many they came with.

The Albanians did nothing about it.

The only one that can defeat the Serbs in Kosovo are the strongest military alliance in the world. Luckily they wont be there forever and are looking to get out as soon as possible.

When they do, yes there will be violence. Violence between the state Kosovo belongs too and not civilians, but the terrorist KLA who are temporarily occupying it.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

@Pejoni

Lol you seriously believe they were arrested in Kosovo, or are you just another albanian troll talking out of their backside? Those 'police officers' were not even in Kosovo, they crossed an artifical border which they created. They are lucky police found them before hunters did. ROSU are no match for anyone anyway, other than defenceless unarmed civilians of course. The only reason they havn't made a serious attempt at moving into north Kosovo is because they are scared, I doubt KFOR would be willing to spill their own blood to protect them, in fact I bet many KFOR soldiers on the ground (not high command) are sick of defending such animals, they will become less enthiusiastic to defend albanians as time goes on.

Pejoni

pre 11 godina

You arrest our officers inside their border, then you kidnapp them into Serbia and pose with them as they were criminals. You arrest civilians accusing them of war crimes just 2 day befor the serbian elections, so frankly I wouldnt be surprised if it did.

trizo

pre 11 godina

gutless Albanians, as weak as they come.

Herroin, prostitutes, organ trading and other black market mafia ops, who ya gonna call? AL-Banians

Steve B.

pre 11 godina

You arrest our officers inside their border, then you kidnapp them into Serbia and pose with them as they were criminals. You arrest civilians accusing them of war crimes just 2 day befor the serbian elections, so frankly I wouldnt be surprised if it did.
(Pejoni, 4 May 2012 11:52)

Where's the proof? Exactly. Keep lying. That's all you guys do. Don't fabricate stories because your idiotic "police" can't use a gps tracker.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"As usual, another unreflective and redicules remark by a blind Serbian official. Peace can only come after Serbia finally faces his violent past, recognizes Kosovo and stops his support for the criminal structures in northern kosova. "
(Bill, 4 May 2012 13:42)

this could be a step, but a more important one would be the international actors final putting pressure on the criminal structures in South Kosovo which call themself 'Kosovo government'. They consist of former warlords, mafia bosses, election fakers and other 'honorable' persons. I'm asking: How can there be peace if those people from the past which are far away from any democratic standard are still in power after 10 years?

ben

pre 11 godina

You killed a police officer, you set road blocks all over the north, you bombed a house killed a man and injured 3 of his children, you arrested 2 border police officers, you arrested 3 citizens of Kosova, today you arrested 8 other Albanians, your vice-PM is speaking as frustrated house wife and your generals "predict" unrest in kosova???

hmmm to me it sounds rather as a plan...

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

“The threats issued by ‘the Kosovo authorities’ that they will forcefully prevent the holding of the Serbian elections and abolish all the so-called 'parallel institutions' contributed significantly to that,” Vladisavljević told Belgrade-based daily Politika.

This is for show and internal consumption. They make a lot of noise but they can't do anything without international approval. Yes Albanians have a violent temper whenever they feel no one takes their threats seriously, but they stand to lose everything if another March 2004 breaks out. Most of their threats of violence these days comes over the internet only. If ROSU was stopped by a bunch of Serb civilians, think of what KFOR can do if the situation got out of hand. I hope it doesn't come to that but I wouldn't be surprised if someone with a death wish wanted to spark an outcry of violence.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"You mean like drowning kids? "
(KOSO, 4 May 2012 16:17)

You mean some Albanian kids that didn't know how to swim and drowned because their parents didn't take a good look on them? Then they blamed Serbs for it, a bit later, Pristina media started a hate propaganda campaign based on nothing but lies and false accusations (as it was proven later, but too late), and the democratic and multi-ethnic Albanian mob looted and destroyed churches and monasteries? With such 'angels', no wonder that any minority doesn't want to live in a 'state' where these things are tolerated by highest officials.

EA

pre 11 godina

"... and some extremist groups have openly threatened that they would forcefully prevent the holding of the Serbian elections,” he was quoted as saying."

They don't have to because the Kosovo institutions should do it. Internationals can help if they wish.

What about the Serbian "angels" in northern Mitrovica?

EA

pre 11 godina

"ROSU went into Northern Kosovo to try and impose their will on the Serbs and they were dealt a embarrassing defeat."

Ari,

Do you know the meaning of the word defeat? In other words what does it mean to you "being defeated"?

Where was Kosovo BEFORE the war and AFTER THE WAR? Think rationally and NOT emotionally!


"... defeat came at the hands of not the state, but of the local Serbian population."

What is the "local population" for you Ari boy/girl? In other words what is the meaning of "local population" for you...those who killed the ROSU policeman?


"With little resources, the Serbs ended up having the ROSU terrorists retreating back to the capital of the Organ Harvesting Republic with one less terrorist than how many they came with."

I really question your age when I read the above...NOT MORE than 16 years old. Ask your parents to bet it for you!

The Albanians did nothing about it.

"The only one that can defeat the Serbs in Kosovo are the strongest military alliance in the world."

Yes of course after turning on civilians in Kosovo as they could not reach the KLA. But ask your dad...before you go to bed.

"Luckily they wont be there forever and are looking to get out as soon as possible." Then the Serbs will be left unprotected....or you still think that "with little resources" they will manage to survive?

And last thing don't drink drive...! OK?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Comm. Parrisson

Really interesting., how can there be peace, when 9/10 who live in Kosova want nothing to do with Belgrade and Belgrade swears it will coerce them into changing their mind? how can there be peace, when the bodies of Albanians murdered in the war, are still in Serbia's mass graves and not yet returned to their loved ones. you really don't kno what you're talking about. btw, i have read your posts for a while, alb this alb that. how did kosova fare when serbs ruled roost? i do not see village burning or ethnic cleansing now do i?

KOSO

pre 11 godina

He explained that the current situation in Kosovo was marked by inter-ethnic tensions which increased the likelihood of an outbreak of violence.

You mean like drowning kids? Throwing bombs in people's homes? Bombing embassies? Bombing Custom Borders? Putting up roadblocks? Killing policemen? ETC ETC.

With such angels as Serbs, who needs minorities?


Sincerely,

2004

pre 11 godina

nikolle...
how soon you seem to forget... the last group to commit ethnic cleansing (by definition), burn and intimidate people did it in 2004.
in that year, you and your loved ones ruled the roost in pristina, not the serbs. 1/4 million serbs less since 2004. 150000 albanians more since 1999... who cleansed whom?

Bill

pre 11 godina

As usual, another unreflective and redicules remark by a blind Serbian official. Peace can only come after Serbia finally faces his violent past, recognizes Kosovo and stops his support for the criminal structures in northern kosova. It will. E payment time for serbia after the elections. The games these Belgrade clowns played for so long will come to an end, no matter who wins the elections. Serbia will be faced with reality, which means Europe or Kosovo. If it chooses Kosovo it means an even steeper decline into ecconomic caos, political turmoil or even war. Even this can't be ruled out when one hears and reads the moments not only on this web site. It is a tragedy to see that big pats of the Serbian public obviously are unable to reflect on their past and are unable to conduct any kind of forward thinking it just for their own country, but for the entire region. Serbia is in a real desolate condition.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

According to Vladisavljević, “in the mixed communities in northern Kosovo and around enclaves south of the Ibar River, one could see groups of armed Albanians.”

“Their mere presence is a form of intimidation, and some extremist groups have openly threatened that they would forcefully prevent the holding of the Serbian elections,” he was quoted as saying.


What proof do you have to back up your silly statement?

exKFOR to Nikolle Amatullah

pre 11 godina

i do not see village burning or ethnic cleansing now do i?
(Nikolle, 4 May 2012 15:02)

yes, one does not see that now as Albanian jihadists have already almost 100% fulfilled their plans on killing infidels and carrying out a genocide in Serbian province KiM. But I saw that in March 2004, marauding "civilians" using ambulance for weapon transportation and other dirty tricks to steal other peoples land...

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

You killed a police officer, you set road blocks all over the north, you bombed a house killed a man and injured 3 of his children, you arrested 2 border police officers, you arrested 3 citizens of Kosova, today you arrested 8 other Albanians, your vice-PM is speaking as frustrated house wife and your generals "predict" unrest in kosova???
(Albanian)

Albanians are really very noble people. Inspite of a lot of problems in a land where they constitute a majority: poverty, corruption, poor helth care and education, high unemployment and criminal rate, there is nothing more important for them, then bringing their Serbian neighbours from Northern Kosovo from Darkness to Light and Obidience to the Law. Very selfless behavior indeed. Nothing can stop them from fulfilling this noble task - let somebody say that Kosovo is very disputed territory, so it is unclear which law should its inhabitans obey. One couldn't confuse Albanians with such doubts - they keep sending messengers of Light and Law to that place of Darkness. Messengers are not invited, but that's the desteny of all those designed to improve people's morality... :))) Their own children can wait...

Akim

pre 11 godina

@Bill
If there is any violent option, dangerous and nocuous for Serbia, you can be sure Serbian leaders WILL choose it. "The best prophet of the future is the past" Lord Byron. Compare situation on the Balkans (best on a map) 1989, 1999 and 2009. Yes this man talking of a new conflict might be right.

Glenn

pre 11 godina

nikolle...
how soon you seem to forget... the last group to commit ethnic cleansing (by definition), burn and intimidate people did it in 2004.
in that year, you and your loved ones ruled the roost in pristina, not the serbs. 1/4 million serbs less since 2004. 150000 albanians more since 1999... who cleansed whom?
(2004, 4 May 2012 20:25)

Not to defend what happened in 2004 (since it was inexcusable, and viewed by disdain even by most Albanians in Kosovo), but I do have one question. Who would be safer right now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo or an Albanian living in northern Kosovo? I think it would probably be the Serbian living in south Kosovo.

Most of the time, Albanians and Serbians in Kosovo live in harmony with each other (granted, with a little mistrust still). I don't sense the universal hatred of Serbians that you seem to think every Albanian must have. In fact, if anything, I always get a feeling of "live and let live." For that matter, at a recent trade show in Macedonia, some of my Albanian employees were having friendly conversations with employees of a Serbian company. When they talked to people around Skopje who didn't know English, they used their limited Serbian language to communicate, and didn't seem to mind doing so.

The time for violence is past, and it doesn't really matter who owned what 500 years ago, whether Albanians are descendants of Ilyrians or not, or what happened in the period of Ottoman occupation. We live in 2012, and should be thinking about 2015 and 2020 for the sake of our children. All this talk about history is interesting, but I can't see how it helps to shape a brighter future.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I do have one question. Who would be safer right now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo or an Albanian living in northern Kosovo?
(Glenn)

And who would be safer now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo, say in Prishtina (is there any one left?) or an Albanian living in central Serbia, say in Belgrade?

reader

pre 11 godina

Violence between the state Kosovo belongs too and not civilians, but the terrorist KLA who are temporarily occupying it.

(Ari Gold, 4 May 2012 11:54)

Interesting point of view. What about civilians?

a New Day

pre 11 godina

nikolle...
how soon you seem to forget... the last group to commit ethnic cleansing (by definition), burn and intimidate people did it in 2004.
in that year, you and your loved ones ruled the roost in pristina, not the serbs. 1/4 million serbs less since 2004. 150000 albanians more since 1999... who cleansed whom?
(2004, 4 May 2012 20:25)
When you manipulate the numbers it throws the entire argument out the window. In order for 1/4 million Serbs left since 2004, there would be no Serbian elections this weekend.
The numbers are disputed and since Serbs tended to boycott the census the numbers are only estimates which range from 120-150 thousand Serbs. The highest population was 271 thousand in 1971. Thousands left (documented) post 1999 for fear of reprisals once the Serb military left.
But yet you claim another 250,000 have left since 2004.
Maybe it is the NEW math or maybe someone does not have their facts together.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Glen I ask Serbs why is it ok for them to have Vojvodina which was Hungarian and now Serbian Majority maybe because Hungarians did not build enough churches ????
(Engineer, 5 May 2012 07:42)

A lot of things were done in the past, but international law values status quo and common sense also values preservation of status quo (preservation of territorial integrity of Serbia including Kosovo that is) if there are no clearly better solutions. In case of Kosovo its separation (at least the way it tries to do it) isn't better solution, because Kosovo has Serbian residents oppressed by Albanians.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

by thye way, wehre di you this mythical figure of 250000 less serbs since 2004? Belgrades own statistcs, quoted in books assert that there 160000 Serbs in Kosovo in 1997! are you telling me that in 7 years, another 70000 of them sprang up? really, stop believing your clergy left right and centre

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Not to defend what happened in 2004 (since it was inexcusable, and viewed by disdain even by most Albanians in Kosovo), but I do have one question. Who would be safer right now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo or an Albanian living in northern Kosovo? I think it would probably be the Serbian living in south Kosovo."
(Glenn, 4 May 2012 21:41)

Maybe, but then it's only because Serbs in southern Kosovo live in enclaves, ofter protected by KFOR and in some cases behind barbed wires to create a 'safe environment'. In case they leave, their cars and buses are often stoned regularly by ethnic Albanian mob (a.k.a. 'playing kids', that's how the multi-ethnic democratic KPS is downplaying these incidents instead of arresting the perpetrators). Not the kind of 'safety' I wished even for my worst enemy.

Just me

pre 11 godina

One should learn from the Bosnia war. At the end where two entity learned to live together.
Serbian Said they will give passport to the Kosovo people if they take the Serbian oath I ask lots of people of Kosovo if they will do it answer was in a second.
Ask why, to start a better life elsewhere. With 43 percent with no jobs one cannot blame them. It’s the new generation that needs to be taught, with this new generation of families having eight kids just don’t make lots of sense, lots of kids drop out of school at a young age to take care of their family needs where the only working member (Father) works at anything he can get his hand on, families living on 30 Euros a month for food. One sees what future in store for the kids walking around with all the things that other kids have, latest gadgets same as the kids in the western side of the world. How can they afford all this? I call on the government to educate their people and to start new programs that will benefit the young and old for a better life in Kosovo. I was told by my father if I work hard I will succeed.
He told me one is born with every tool one needs brain to think, hands to grab, legs to walk to get you to where you’re going. It’s up to you to make the best out of what you have.

Engineer

pre 11 godina

by thye way, wehre di you this mythical figure of 250000 less serbs since 2004? Belgrades own statistcs, quoted in books assert that there 160000 Serbs in Kosovo in 1997! are you telling me that in 7 years, another 70000 of them sprang up? really, stop believing your clergy left right and centre
(Nikolle, 4 May 2012 21:38)

yes about 65,000 of them from Croatia thats how I was introduced to Serbian word Izbeglice which did not translate so well in Albanian as a kid 15years of age.

But people like CG show pride in kicking and lowering number of Albanins in Serbia.

So as the old word let them show their own stripes you see Serbs how they cheer others being forced out but cry when someone jails Serbian Police living in Kosovo.

Glen I ask Serbs why is it ok for them to have Vojvodina which was Hungarian and now Serbian Majority maybe because Hungarians did not build enough churches ????

lili

pre 11 godina

great news indeed! And you must learn to read the true news under these words:each time serbs annonce albanian actions(as if we were waiting for their autorisation!)it reveals their difficulties in their own country,and albanians are then only a diversion!So when this guy annonces that we are going-surely under his order?- to act,you have to understand that situation in serbia proper is very bad!That's a great news for albanians,who do not need to act,but just to wait:you do the job better than us for,each time you convince more albanians that definitively we have nothing to do with you and each time you strengthen albanian nationalism!So just go on!(And please, we are not as stupid as to please you and act as you want us to act,we do know to "read" serbian declaration better than you!)

Pejoni

pre 11 godina

You arrest our officers inside their border, then you kidnapp them into Serbia and pose with them as they were criminals. You arrest civilians accusing them of war crimes just 2 day befor the serbian elections, so frankly I wouldnt be surprised if it did.

Bill

pre 11 godina

As usual, another unreflective and redicules remark by a blind Serbian official. Peace can only come after Serbia finally faces his violent past, recognizes Kosovo and stops his support for the criminal structures in northern kosova. It will. E payment time for serbia after the elections. The games these Belgrade clowns played for so long will come to an end, no matter who wins the elections. Serbia will be faced with reality, which means Europe or Kosovo. If it chooses Kosovo it means an even steeper decline into ecconomic caos, political turmoil or even war. Even this can't be ruled out when one hears and reads the moments not only on this web site. It is a tragedy to see that big pats of the Serbian public obviously are unable to reflect on their past and are unable to conduct any kind of forward thinking it just for their own country, but for the entire region. Serbia is in a real desolate condition.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Comm. Parrisson

Really interesting., how can there be peace, when 9/10 who live in Kosova want nothing to do with Belgrade and Belgrade swears it will coerce them into changing their mind? how can there be peace, when the bodies of Albanians murdered in the war, are still in Serbia's mass graves and not yet returned to their loved ones. you really don't kno what you're talking about. btw, i have read your posts for a while, alb this alb that. how did kosova fare when serbs ruled roost? i do not see village burning or ethnic cleansing now do i?

EA

pre 11 godina

"ROSU went into Northern Kosovo to try and impose their will on the Serbs and they were dealt a embarrassing defeat."

Ari,

Do you know the meaning of the word defeat? In other words what does it mean to you "being defeated"?

Where was Kosovo BEFORE the war and AFTER THE WAR? Think rationally and NOT emotionally!


"... defeat came at the hands of not the state, but of the local Serbian population."

What is the "local population" for you Ari boy/girl? In other words what is the meaning of "local population" for you...those who killed the ROSU policeman?


"With little resources, the Serbs ended up having the ROSU terrorists retreating back to the capital of the Organ Harvesting Republic with one less terrorist than how many they came with."

I really question your age when I read the above...NOT MORE than 16 years old. Ask your parents to bet it for you!

The Albanians did nothing about it.

"The only one that can defeat the Serbs in Kosovo are the strongest military alliance in the world."

Yes of course after turning on civilians in Kosovo as they could not reach the KLA. But ask your dad...before you go to bed.

"Luckily they wont be there forever and are looking to get out as soon as possible." Then the Serbs will be left unprotected....or you still think that "with little resources" they will manage to survive?

And last thing don't drink drive...! OK?

EA

pre 11 godina

"... and some extremist groups have openly threatened that they would forcefully prevent the holding of the Serbian elections,” he was quoted as saying."

They don't have to because the Kosovo institutions should do it. Internationals can help if they wish.

What about the Serbian "angels" in northern Mitrovica?

KOSO

pre 11 godina

He explained that the current situation in Kosovo was marked by inter-ethnic tensions which increased the likelihood of an outbreak of violence.

You mean like drowning kids? Throwing bombs in people's homes? Bombing embassies? Bombing Custom Borders? Putting up roadblocks? Killing policemen? ETC ETC.

With such angels as Serbs, who needs minorities?


Sincerely,

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

According to Vladisavljević, “in the mixed communities in northern Kosovo and around enclaves south of the Ibar River, one could see groups of armed Albanians.”

“Their mere presence is a form of intimidation, and some extremist groups have openly threatened that they would forcefully prevent the holding of the Serbian elections,” he was quoted as saying.


What proof do you have to back up your silly statement?

ben

pre 11 godina

You killed a police officer, you set road blocks all over the north, you bombed a house killed a man and injured 3 of his children, you arrested 2 border police officers, you arrested 3 citizens of Kosova, today you arrested 8 other Albanians, your vice-PM is speaking as frustrated house wife and your generals "predict" unrest in kosova???

hmmm to me it sounds rather as a plan...

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Violence broke out last July. ROSU went into Northern Kosovo to try and impose their will on the Serbs and they were dealt a embarrassing defeat. I say embarrassing because the defeat came at the hands of not the state, but of the local Serbian population. With little resources, the Serbs ended up having the ROSU terrorists retreating back to the capital of the Organ Harvesting Republic with one less terrorist than how many they came with.

The Albanians did nothing about it.

The only one that can defeat the Serbs in Kosovo are the strongest military alliance in the world. Luckily they wont be there forever and are looking to get out as soon as possible.

When they do, yes there will be violence. Violence between the state Kosovo belongs too and not civilians, but the terrorist KLA who are temporarily occupying it.

Akim

pre 11 godina

@Bill
If there is any violent option, dangerous and nocuous for Serbia, you can be sure Serbian leaders WILL choose it. "The best prophet of the future is the past" Lord Byron. Compare situation on the Balkans (best on a map) 1989, 1999 and 2009. Yes this man talking of a new conflict might be right.

trizo

pre 11 godina

gutless Albanians, as weak as they come.

Herroin, prostitutes, organ trading and other black market mafia ops, who ya gonna call? AL-Banians

Steve B.

pre 11 godina

You arrest our officers inside their border, then you kidnapp them into Serbia and pose with them as they were criminals. You arrest civilians accusing them of war crimes just 2 day befor the serbian elections, so frankly I wouldnt be surprised if it did.
(Pejoni, 4 May 2012 11:52)

Where's the proof? Exactly. Keep lying. That's all you guys do. Don't fabricate stories because your idiotic "police" can't use a gps tracker.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

@Pejoni

Lol you seriously believe they were arrested in Kosovo, or are you just another albanian troll talking out of their backside? Those 'police officers' were not even in Kosovo, they crossed an artifical border which they created. They are lucky police found them before hunters did. ROSU are no match for anyone anyway, other than defenceless unarmed civilians of course. The only reason they havn't made a serious attempt at moving into north Kosovo is because they are scared, I doubt KFOR would be willing to spill their own blood to protect them, in fact I bet many KFOR soldiers on the ground (not high command) are sick of defending such animals, they will become less enthiusiastic to defend albanians as time goes on.

exKFOR to Nikolle Amatullah

pre 11 godina

i do not see village burning or ethnic cleansing now do i?
(Nikolle, 4 May 2012 15:02)

yes, one does not see that now as Albanian jihadists have already almost 100% fulfilled their plans on killing infidels and carrying out a genocide in Serbian province KiM. But I saw that in March 2004, marauding "civilians" using ambulance for weapon transportation and other dirty tricks to steal other peoples land...

2004

pre 11 godina

nikolle...
how soon you seem to forget... the last group to commit ethnic cleansing (by definition), burn and intimidate people did it in 2004.
in that year, you and your loved ones ruled the roost in pristina, not the serbs. 1/4 million serbs less since 2004. 150000 albanians more since 1999... who cleansed whom?

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

You killed a police officer, you set road blocks all over the north, you bombed a house killed a man and injured 3 of his children, you arrested 2 border police officers, you arrested 3 citizens of Kosova, today you arrested 8 other Albanians, your vice-PM is speaking as frustrated house wife and your generals "predict" unrest in kosova???
(Albanian)

Albanians are really very noble people. Inspite of a lot of problems in a land where they constitute a majority: poverty, corruption, poor helth care and education, high unemployment and criminal rate, there is nothing more important for them, then bringing their Serbian neighbours from Northern Kosovo from Darkness to Light and Obidience to the Law. Very selfless behavior indeed. Nothing can stop them from fulfilling this noble task - let somebody say that Kosovo is very disputed territory, so it is unclear which law should its inhabitans obey. One couldn't confuse Albanians with such doubts - they keep sending messengers of Light and Law to that place of Darkness. Messengers are not invited, but that's the desteny of all those designed to improve people's morality... :))) Their own children can wait...

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"As usual, another unreflective and redicules remark by a blind Serbian official. Peace can only come after Serbia finally faces his violent past, recognizes Kosovo and stops his support for the criminal structures in northern kosova. "
(Bill, 4 May 2012 13:42)

this could be a step, but a more important one would be the international actors final putting pressure on the criminal structures in South Kosovo which call themself 'Kosovo government'. They consist of former warlords, mafia bosses, election fakers and other 'honorable' persons. I'm asking: How can there be peace if those people from the past which are far away from any democratic standard are still in power after 10 years?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"You mean like drowning kids? "
(KOSO, 4 May 2012 16:17)

You mean some Albanian kids that didn't know how to swim and drowned because their parents didn't take a good look on them? Then they blamed Serbs for it, a bit later, Pristina media started a hate propaganda campaign based on nothing but lies and false accusations (as it was proven later, but too late), and the democratic and multi-ethnic Albanian mob looted and destroyed churches and monasteries? With such 'angels', no wonder that any minority doesn't want to live in a 'state' where these things are tolerated by highest officials.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

by thye way, wehre di you this mythical figure of 250000 less serbs since 2004? Belgrades own statistcs, quoted in books assert that there 160000 Serbs in Kosovo in 1997! are you telling me that in 7 years, another 70000 of them sprang up? really, stop believing your clergy left right and centre

Glenn

pre 11 godina

nikolle...
how soon you seem to forget... the last group to commit ethnic cleansing (by definition), burn and intimidate people did it in 2004.
in that year, you and your loved ones ruled the roost in pristina, not the serbs. 1/4 million serbs less since 2004. 150000 albanians more since 1999... who cleansed whom?
(2004, 4 May 2012 20:25)

Not to defend what happened in 2004 (since it was inexcusable, and viewed by disdain even by most Albanians in Kosovo), but I do have one question. Who would be safer right now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo or an Albanian living in northern Kosovo? I think it would probably be the Serbian living in south Kosovo.

Most of the time, Albanians and Serbians in Kosovo live in harmony with each other (granted, with a little mistrust still). I don't sense the universal hatred of Serbians that you seem to think every Albanian must have. In fact, if anything, I always get a feeling of "live and let live." For that matter, at a recent trade show in Macedonia, some of my Albanian employees were having friendly conversations with employees of a Serbian company. When they talked to people around Skopje who didn't know English, they used their limited Serbian language to communicate, and didn't seem to mind doing so.

The time for violence is past, and it doesn't really matter who owned what 500 years ago, whether Albanians are descendants of Ilyrians or not, or what happened in the period of Ottoman occupation. We live in 2012, and should be thinking about 2015 and 2020 for the sake of our children. All this talk about history is interesting, but I can't see how it helps to shape a brighter future.

reader

pre 11 godina

Violence between the state Kosovo belongs too and not civilians, but the terrorist KLA who are temporarily occupying it.

(Ari Gold, 4 May 2012 11:54)

Interesting point of view. What about civilians?

a New Day

pre 11 godina

nikolle...
how soon you seem to forget... the last group to commit ethnic cleansing (by definition), burn and intimidate people did it in 2004.
in that year, you and your loved ones ruled the roost in pristina, not the serbs. 1/4 million serbs less since 2004. 150000 albanians more since 1999... who cleansed whom?
(2004, 4 May 2012 20:25)
When you manipulate the numbers it throws the entire argument out the window. In order for 1/4 million Serbs left since 2004, there would be no Serbian elections this weekend.
The numbers are disputed and since Serbs tended to boycott the census the numbers are only estimates which range from 120-150 thousand Serbs. The highest population was 271 thousand in 1971. Thousands left (documented) post 1999 for fear of reprisals once the Serb military left.
But yet you claim another 250,000 have left since 2004.
Maybe it is the NEW math or maybe someone does not have their facts together.

Engineer

pre 11 godina

by thye way, wehre di you this mythical figure of 250000 less serbs since 2004? Belgrades own statistcs, quoted in books assert that there 160000 Serbs in Kosovo in 1997! are you telling me that in 7 years, another 70000 of them sprang up? really, stop believing your clergy left right and centre
(Nikolle, 4 May 2012 21:38)

yes about 65,000 of them from Croatia thats how I was introduced to Serbian word Izbeglice which did not translate so well in Albanian as a kid 15years of age.

But people like CG show pride in kicking and lowering number of Albanins in Serbia.

So as the old word let them show their own stripes you see Serbs how they cheer others being forced out but cry when someone jails Serbian Police living in Kosovo.

Glen I ask Serbs why is it ok for them to have Vojvodina which was Hungarian and now Serbian Majority maybe because Hungarians did not build enough churches ????

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

“The threats issued by ‘the Kosovo authorities’ that they will forcefully prevent the holding of the Serbian elections and abolish all the so-called 'parallel institutions' contributed significantly to that,” Vladisavljević told Belgrade-based daily Politika.

This is for show and internal consumption. They make a lot of noise but they can't do anything without international approval. Yes Albanians have a violent temper whenever they feel no one takes their threats seriously, but they stand to lose everything if another March 2004 breaks out. Most of their threats of violence these days comes over the internet only. If ROSU was stopped by a bunch of Serb civilians, think of what KFOR can do if the situation got out of hand. I hope it doesn't come to that but I wouldn't be surprised if someone with a death wish wanted to spark an outcry of violence.

lili

pre 11 godina

great news indeed! And you must learn to read the true news under these words:each time serbs annonce albanian actions(as if we were waiting for their autorisation!)it reveals their difficulties in their own country,and albanians are then only a diversion!So when this guy annonces that we are going-surely under his order?- to act,you have to understand that situation in serbia proper is very bad!That's a great news for albanians,who do not need to act,but just to wait:you do the job better than us for,each time you convince more albanians that definitively we have nothing to do with you and each time you strengthen albanian nationalism!So just go on!(And please, we are not as stupid as to please you and act as you want us to act,we do know to "read" serbian declaration better than you!)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Glen I ask Serbs why is it ok for them to have Vojvodina which was Hungarian and now Serbian Majority maybe because Hungarians did not build enough churches ????
(Engineer, 5 May 2012 07:42)

A lot of things were done in the past, but international law values status quo and common sense also values preservation of status quo (preservation of territorial integrity of Serbia including Kosovo that is) if there are no clearly better solutions. In case of Kosovo its separation (at least the way it tries to do it) isn't better solution, because Kosovo has Serbian residents oppressed by Albanians.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I do have one question. Who would be safer right now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo or an Albanian living in northern Kosovo?
(Glenn)

And who would be safer now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo, say in Prishtina (is there any one left?) or an Albanian living in central Serbia, say in Belgrade?

Just me

pre 11 godina

One should learn from the Bosnia war. At the end where two entity learned to live together.
Serbian Said they will give passport to the Kosovo people if they take the Serbian oath I ask lots of people of Kosovo if they will do it answer was in a second.
Ask why, to start a better life elsewhere. With 43 percent with no jobs one cannot blame them. It’s the new generation that needs to be taught, with this new generation of families having eight kids just don’t make lots of sense, lots of kids drop out of school at a young age to take care of their family needs where the only working member (Father) works at anything he can get his hand on, families living on 30 Euros a month for food. One sees what future in store for the kids walking around with all the things that other kids have, latest gadgets same as the kids in the western side of the world. How can they afford all this? I call on the government to educate their people and to start new programs that will benefit the young and old for a better life in Kosovo. I was told by my father if I work hard I will succeed.
He told me one is born with every tool one needs brain to think, hands to grab, legs to walk to get you to where you’re going. It’s up to you to make the best out of what you have.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Not to defend what happened in 2004 (since it was inexcusable, and viewed by disdain even by most Albanians in Kosovo), but I do have one question. Who would be safer right now, a Serbian living in south Kosovo or an Albanian living in northern Kosovo? I think it would probably be the Serbian living in south Kosovo."
(Glenn, 4 May 2012 21:41)

Maybe, but then it's only because Serbs in southern Kosovo live in enclaves, ofter protected by KFOR and in some cases behind barbed wires to create a 'safe environment'. In case they leave, their cars and buses are often stoned regularly by ethnic Albanian mob (a.k.a. 'playing kids', that's how the multi-ethnic democratic KPS is downplaying these incidents instead of arresting the perpetrators). Not the kind of 'safety' I wished even for my worst enemy.