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Sunday, 15.04.2012.

13:09

Belgrade will not organize local elections in Kosovo

Although called in the entire territory of the country, local elections will not be held in Kosovo, it has been reported in Belgrade on Sunday.

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icj1

pre 12 godina

I wouldn't expect simpletons to understand the debt bubble in the west that is about to burst, so keep living the 'dream' and flipping those pizzas in Brooklyn icj! Your party is almost over and the hangover is about to start. Cheers!!
(Dragan, 17 April 2012 13:26)

Of course, that's why I invited all readers to follow your advice and emmigrate to the Mozambique paradise which does not suffer from the debt bubble problem. Good luck to everybody going there, hopefully you don't starve in the next few months :)

Dragan

pre 12 godina

I wouldn't expect simpletons to understand the debt bubble in the west that is about to burst, so keep living the 'dream' and flipping those pizzas in Brooklyn icj! Your party is almost over and the hangover is about to start. Cheers!!

icj1

pre 12 godina

"In the meantime, the North should declare itself independent from Pristina"

Haven't they already practically done it in their referendum?
(aaayyy, 16 April 2012 10:45)

That's not what they said in their referendum. In addition, as Dragan very clearly and convincigly explained Kosovo (and hence Pristina, as well) is Serbia and that is guaranteed by Resolution 1244 (the same resolution (i) the Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with, (ii) that guarantees that the Serbian army can't return to Kosovo, (iii) that guarantees that Serbia can't hold local elections in Kosovo).

So what's the North declaring independence from ? From Serbia ?!

icj1

pre 12 godina

I am not the one dreaming Bob:
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Have a close look at the most indebted countries - yep, the US of A and western Europe leading the charge. Also, have a look at the unfunded liabilities of the US of A - 118.5 Trillion and counting. Are you good at math Bob? Or are you one of those artsy fartsy political types who don't have a clue with numbers?
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 21:58)

Ok, you are right on this Dragan. We should immigrate to Mozambique since according to your criteria that should be a paradise on Earth with only USD 156 of debt per person. Happy life in Mozambique to everybody (assuming of course that you don’t starve within the next 12 months).
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Yeah, and I'm the one dreaming...LOL. I will spell it out for you Bob: The US of A is already bankrupt, they have to slash everything (and I mean everything), especially military spending and medicaire/medicaid, they have to raise taxes in a huge way, and even then they will still go bankrupt. The west has been living above its means for years and years, and it's time to chop up the credit cards come back to reality. Either that, or welcome to hyperinflation and the dollar turning into the peso. The first thing to get cut is unnecessary fiascos like troops in Kosovo - it's going to happen sooner than you think.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 21:58)

Of course, that’s why it is so important that Resolution 1244 continues to be in force, especially since it’s the Bible and Koran for Serbs.
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Despite the propoganda from the west, all is not lost Bob. In fact, nothing is lost. NATO's complete failure to dislodge the brave Serbian army out of Kosovo led to UN Resolution 1244, which the NATO war criminals signed, and which guarantees that Kosovo is Serbia.
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

Woow, that’s not what that great Serb patriot called Slobodan said… he thought that in adopting Resolution 1244, the UNSC wrote one of the darkest pages of its history by being instrumental in a de facto dismemberment of a sovereign European State. But if you think that Slobodan was wrong, there is certainly no problem with that; actually it’s welcome that there is something where you and Albanians in Kosovo converge.
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On top of that, the west is in decline, huge decline. Look at the EU and the US of A, look at the uncontrollable debt they are under, and it's getting worse every day. Then look at Russia, a rising power with endless resources (resources which the world does not have, but needs badly), and a very educated population, which is Serbia's number one ally.
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

That’s why Russia’s population is declining by the millions in the last decade and Russians are emigrating to the bankrupt US ?! Please Dragan educate the Russians to have them learn how much a paradise their country is LOL
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Time is on our side Bob, we can wait it out, and we will wait it out. We don't have to sign anything, we don't have to join any German run clubs such as the EU, we can trade with anyone and use the value of the Dinar to a trade advantage, and we can remain free and independent, unlike all our neighbours. The west needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the west, and that's a fact.
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

That’s fine… If you and Serb politicians think that the sun revolves around Serbia LOL That is the single most important factor that helped Kosovo become independent from Serbia.
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NATO has supported Bin Laden in both Bosnia and Kosovo, they supported neo-fascists in Croatia and inflicted a US sponsored genocide on the Serbian population there. The western leaders responsible for this, Bliar, Clinton, Genscher, Albright, Holbrooke...these are all war criminals, and history will write them this way. Facts are facts - and the truth is with the Serbs. So Bob, please tell your organ snatching terrorist friends who run that fictional creation to enjoy their reign of terror while they can, because we know what's ours is ours, and we'll be back.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

Sure, but that does not mean that they will collapse just because you hate them and you wish them to collapse LOL
Cheers!

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Dragan

You dream. The EU, US and the West will not collapse in the way you hope they will.

If you depend on that for your success you will never get what you want.
(Bob, 16 April 2012 11:58)

I am not the one dreaming Bob:
http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Have a close look at the most indebted countries - yep, the US of A and western Europe leading the charge. Also, have a look at the unfunded liabilities of the US of A - 118.5 Trillion and counting. Are you good at math Bob? Or are you one of those artsy fartsy political types who don't have a clue with numbers?
Yeah, and I'm the one dreaming...LOL. I will spell it out for you Bob: The US of A is already bankrupt, they have to slash everything (and I mean everything), especially military spending and medicaire/medicaid, they have to raise taxes in a huge way, and even then they will still go bankrupt. The west has been living above its means for years and years, and it's time to chop up the credit cards come back to reality. Either that, or welcome to hyperinflation and the dollar turning into the peso. The first thing to get cut is unnecessary fiascos like troops in Kosovo - it's going to happen sooner than you think.
Cheers!!

Bob

pre 12 godina

Dragan

You dream. The EU, US and the West will not collapse in the way you hope they will.

If you depend on that for your success you will never get what you want.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

"In the meantime, the North should declare itself independent from Pristina"

Haven't they already practically done it in their referendum?

Bob

pre 12 godina

MorinaB

Preshevo is and will remain part of Serbia. That is not a reason to insist that NKosovo should be ruled by Pristina. There is nothing stupid in the locals of NKosovo being ruled by the country they were born to.

You might like Presevo to be part of the jigsaw, but it is not, and it is not going to be.

icj1

pre 12 godina

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 stipulates that customs officers of Republic of Serbia should be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo. That includes border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM.

Why has that not been implemented if we are to respect all provisions of UNSCR 1244!?

Double standards as usual.
(VB, 15 April 2012 22:51)

Of course, according to 1244 "an agreed" number of customs officers of Republic of Serbia can be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo, including border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM as soon as the number is "agreed" :)

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Bob that's an interesting post. On the one hand you are saying all is lost for the Serbs of Kosovo, on the other hand you are saying the north should declare independence?
Despite the propoganda from the west, all is not lost Bob. In fact, nothing is lost. NATO's complete failure to dislodge the brave Serbian army out of Kosovo led to UN Resolution 1244, which the NATO war criminals signed, and which guarantees that Kosovo is Serbia. On top of that, the west is in decline, huge decline. Look at the EU and the US of A, look at the uncontrollable debt they are under, and it's getting worse every day. Then look at Russia, a rising power with endless resources (resources which the world does not have, but needs badly), and a very educated population, which is Serbia's number one ally.
Time is on our side Bob, we can wait it out, and we will wait it out. We don't have to sign anything, we don't have to join any German run clubs such as the EU, we can trade with anyone and use the value of the Dinar to a trade advantage, and we can remain free and independent, unlike all our neighbours. The west needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the west, and that's a fact.
NATO has supported Bin Laden in both Bosnia and Kosovo, they supported neo-fascists in Croatia and inflicted a US sponsored genocide on the Serbian population there. The western leaders responsible for this, Bliar, Clinton, Genscher, Albright, Holbrooke...these are all war criminals, and history will write them this way. Facts are facts - and the truth is with the Serbs. So Bob, please tell your organ snatching terrorist friends who run that fictional creation to enjoy their reign of terror while they can, because we know what's ours is ours, and we'll be back.
Cheers!!

pss

pre 12 godina

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 stipulates that customs officers of Republic of Serbia should be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo. That includes border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM.

Why has that not been implemented if we are to respect all provisions of UNSCR 1244!?

Double standards as usual.
(VB, 15 April 2012 22:51)
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Maybe you should try reading 1244, I bet you have a hard time finding what you said in there. As it does not say anything even remotely close to that.

VB

pre 12 godina

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 stipulates that customs officers of Republic of Serbia should be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo. That includes border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM.

Why has that not been implemented if we are to respect all provisions of UNSCR 1244!?

Double standards as usual.

MorinaB

pre 12 godina

You are an idiot bob (Bob, 15 April 2012 17:57).
You suggest that the north declare indipendence but you seem to either forget or be ignorant that there is Preshevo, and Bujanovac that are full of Albanians who are looking forward for a move such as that by the Serbs in the north of Mitrovica so they can do the same. Preshevo and Bujanovac are only two important examples I mention and the list is longer that needs no mention.
A move like it would flame fires that would be really unpredictable and near impossible to handle without wars in the ballkans again.
Please before you start making idiotic suggestions think of the north not only as a one piece puzzle.

Now on the topic of not holding elections in Kosovo, from the prespective of those who would like to join Europe, this decision is good for Serbia. It is good economically and socially. Yea the EU is struggling as is the world, some less some more, but nonetheless that is not the fault of European Union, it is souly the fault of the countries that got themselves in debt that they knew they can't handle.

From the view of nationalists, well we all know what happened last time they were in power and elected Milosevic. Serbian conservative nationalists were the reason why Kosovo was lost, they did not only loose Kosovo but they are the cause for Yugoslavias break up. Nationalists had their chance and they showed the world how they handle things, now because of their mess that Tadic tried to clean up and get Serbia to move forward the nationalists again got involved and prevented his government from doing their job. When Tadic couldn't clean their mess as always they (the nationalists) turned and called their own people traitors, and pointed fingers when in fact they, especially the SNS, should apologize to all former Yugoslavian countries and far most to Serbians for ruining everything.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

(NATO New Albanian Territorial Offensive, 15 April 2012 18:16)

Ahahaha, ya thats it, we listened to Pristina and what they had to say. If you think anyone other than the West runs the show in Kosovo you are just delusional but thats okay.

I love how you guys are now asking for parts of Macedonia, Greece and Montenegro...because this time the mighty West won't be able to help you.

icj1

pre 12 godina

The Serbian Government says that it does not want to violate United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, but that Resolution allows for up to 1,999 Serbian soldiers and policeman to enter Kosovo
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

I guess you meant Yet Another J S’s Resolution allows for up to 1,999 Serbian soldiers and policeman to enter Kosovo because UNSC’s Resolution says that “an agreed” number can do that and unfortunately the “agreed” number is 0 so far.
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and UNSCR 1244 can be changed by a better Resolution, because of changed circumstances, but only if it is in line with Serbia’s Constitution.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

Dear, nobody gives a hoot about Serbia’s Constitution. The UNSC is bound by the UN charter not Serbia, Kosovo, or anybody else’s Constitution.
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This can be done by the People of North Kosovo holding an informal Election, and where the Government of Serbia picks the person that is most proffered to be the Administrator.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

What is an “informal election” ?!
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The Serb leaders from the municipalities in North Kosovo said last month that they would go ahead with organizing the Voting regardless of the decision made by the authorities in Belgrade.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

That makes sense; every municipality can organize the elections whenever they want – that’s what Kosovo’s Constitution guarantees for Kosovo Serbs to manage their own local affairs.
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I think that the People in North Kosovo should have two Referendums, and an Election to see which Party the appointed Administrators come from, in order to prevent possible AdminisTraitors.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

Of course, they can hold 3 referendums a day, if they wish… one for breakfast, one for lunch and another one for dinner…
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Let me remind Bogdanovic and the rest of his yellow traitors, it is written in the Serbian constitution that Kosovo is Serbia, and elections WILL be held there.
(Dragan, 15 April 2012 15:37)

Dear, UNSC Resolution 1244, which is the bible for Serbs, comes before Serbia’s Constitution in regards to Kosovo.

icj1

pre 12 godina

"The minister once again urged respect of Resolution 1244, and asserted that Belgrade "expects negotiations on the status of Kosovo to commence very soon", and that those negotiations would be based on the UN Security Council document, adopted in 1999 to end the war over Kosovo"

Well, it appears the Minister has not read the news or spoken with his collegaue Vuk for a couple of years, otherwise he would know that a solution of Kosovo's status in accordance with Resolution 1244 has already been achieved thanks to Vuk's tireless efforts.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Happy Easter to all chosen people of the Orthodox Church. The only religion that can say were founded directly by Jesus Christ.

Dogodine u Prizrenu!

NATO New Albanian Territorial Offensive

pre 12 godina

Lets not over complicate the issue. Pristina told Serbia that they will not hold any elections in Kosova. Serbia realized that they are powerless to stop Pristina. If Serbia ever tried to hold elections KPS would shut down those polling booths faster than you can say "serbian war criminals". NONE of these current Serbian candidates are willing to be put in that position of explaining why it is Serbia cannot hold elections. Serb politicians would then be asked "what is your response to KPS shutting down the polling booths?". Im glad Pristina has wisened up and decided to excercise their right to control their internal affairs. Serbs think they are the only ones that can say "no". Well, Kosovars have that same ability and they told Serbia no elections. Everyone knows it has nothing to do with 1244 or 2236 or 12345. It has to do with Pristina saying NO as well as the international community supporting the Kosovars. Enjoy "hearing" about the elections over the internet and radio Kosovar Serbs. Thats the most involvement that you will have:)

Bob

pre 12 godina

Serbia was bombed into submission - the recent careful operations of Tadic and his government are pragmatically trying to make the best of an inherited bad situation.

Declarations that Tadic is a 'traitor' miss the point that there is no other meaningful route forward for Serbia to retain any degree of control of its territory of Kosovo. There will not be a war on the issue for a considerable time yet - it may take 50 or 100 years until reoccupation by force becomes even the beginnings of an option for Serb nationalists. What other options are there for Serbia other than to go along with 1244 and try to dig out whatever can be retained?

In the meantime, the North should declare itself independent from Pristina but seek to be governed from Belgrade. Belgrade cannot engineer this - it has to be locally driven.

Serbs in the rest of the province will have to wait longer - Albanians have a disgusting mono-ethnic ambition that was a prime cause of the wars in the first place - the international community should be responsible for policing the rest of Kosovo to ensure that Serbs there are well protected from racist Albanian policies.

The assumption that Albanians should in any way rule in the north of Kosovo cannot stand given that there is a majority of Serbs whose lands are fully adjacent to the main body of their country of birth.

FlorentH

pre 12 godina

"The minister once again urged respect of Resolution 1244, and asserted that Belgrade "expects negotiations on the status of Kosovo to commence very soon", and that those negotiations would be based on the UN Security Council document, adopted in 1999 to end the war over Kosovo."

www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/141/15987.pdf

george

pre 12 godina

Tadic and his croonies claim Kosovo is Serbian,than how do you refuse the people of Kosovo the right to DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. I guess its only for the people that Tadic's masters THE AMERICANS say can live FREE!

Jo

pre 12 godina

Go ahead and you better have your elections cause nobody can stop you to show your oppinion as self goverment North Kosovo people.You have your rights dont loose your chance!

Dragan

pre 12 godina

This is why Tadic and his pathetic quislings need to go. They talk about protecting Kosovo, but just look at what they are doing, not what they are saying. Let me remind Bogdanovic and the rest of his yellow traitors, it is written in the Serbian constitution that Kosovo is Serbia, and elections WILL be held there. To deny this right is an act of treason. Kosovo Serbs need to keep ignoring these traitors, for their time is almost up.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

The Serbian Government says that they are Committed to the Highest Standards of Democracy known to Mankind, and want to appoint Administrators rather than organize Elections.

This decision was made because the Parliament in Belgrade knows from History and the recent murders of Slavs from FYROM that wanting Democracy could endanger those Serbs and other Non Albanians who live in enclaves in South Kosovo.

The Serbian Government says that it does not want to violate United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, but that Resolution allows for up to 1,999 Serbian soldiers and policeman to enter Kosovo, and UNSCR 1244 can be changed by a better Resolution, because of changed circumstances, but only if it is in line with Serbia’s Constitution.

The Government has to say that they do not wish to violate United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 in any way, because it sounds better than saying that the International Community is being blackmailed to reject Democracy and Human Rights by mainly America, with France, Britain, and Germany being the other leading culprits.

The Minister for Kosovo Goran Bogdanovic said that it was up to the United Nations Mission in Serbia’s Province of Kosovo was in charge of organizing Local Elections.

Even though local elections were not held in Kosovo from 1999 until 2008, there has been a practice of Democracy and Elections in North Kosovo, for the last 4 years, and the People are not giving that up, because America says that Democracy is very good, and that it is worth making sacrifices for, and Many People in Europe agree with that.

If the Government in Belgrade were to appoint Administors, then it would be Democratic if they knew who would be most accepted if they were appointed.

This can be done by the People of North Kosovo holding an informal Election, and where the Government of Serbia picks the person that is most proffered to be the Administrator.

The Serb leaders from the municipalities in North Kosovo said last month that they would go ahead with organizing the Voting regardless of the decision made by the authorities in Belgrade.

This was criticized by Bogdanovic who said it was not good for Serbs to have their own Opinion in a DS American approved model of Pseudo Democracy, but this should not be approved, but rather Reproved.

I think that the People in North Kosovo should have two Referendums, and an Election to see which Party the appointed Administrators come from, in order to prevent possible AdminisTraitors.

One Referendum would be a repeat Referendum to reject the Authorities based in Pristina, and the other Referendum would to reject AdminsTraitors.

There are more than enough Albanians who want a Mono Ethnic Greater Albania, and if any Albanian in Authority does not go along with that, then they will certainly be dealt with, and this is only the Most Dedicated amongst the Albanians seeks positions of power in Albanian Society.

NATO New Albanian Treaty Organization

pre 12 godina

Just tell everyone that it was Pristina that told you there will be no elections. Its ok Bogdanovic, everyone already knows this.

NATO New Albanian Treaty Organization

pre 12 godina

Just tell everyone that it was Pristina that told you there will be no elections. Its ok Bogdanovic, everyone already knows this.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

This is why Tadic and his pathetic quislings need to go. They talk about protecting Kosovo, but just look at what they are doing, not what they are saying. Let me remind Bogdanovic and the rest of his yellow traitors, it is written in the Serbian constitution that Kosovo is Serbia, and elections WILL be held there. To deny this right is an act of treason. Kosovo Serbs need to keep ignoring these traitors, for their time is almost up.

NATO New Albanian Territorial Offensive

pre 12 godina

Lets not over complicate the issue. Pristina told Serbia that they will not hold any elections in Kosova. Serbia realized that they are powerless to stop Pristina. If Serbia ever tried to hold elections KPS would shut down those polling booths faster than you can say "serbian war criminals". NONE of these current Serbian candidates are willing to be put in that position of explaining why it is Serbia cannot hold elections. Serb politicians would then be asked "what is your response to KPS shutting down the polling booths?". Im glad Pristina has wisened up and decided to excercise their right to control their internal affairs. Serbs think they are the only ones that can say "no". Well, Kosovars have that same ability and they told Serbia no elections. Everyone knows it has nothing to do with 1244 or 2236 or 12345. It has to do with Pristina saying NO as well as the international community supporting the Kosovars. Enjoy "hearing" about the elections over the internet and radio Kosovar Serbs. Thats the most involvement that you will have:)

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

The Serbian Government says that they are Committed to the Highest Standards of Democracy known to Mankind, and want to appoint Administrators rather than organize Elections.

This decision was made because the Parliament in Belgrade knows from History and the recent murders of Slavs from FYROM that wanting Democracy could endanger those Serbs and other Non Albanians who live in enclaves in South Kosovo.

The Serbian Government says that it does not want to violate United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, but that Resolution allows for up to 1,999 Serbian soldiers and policeman to enter Kosovo, and UNSCR 1244 can be changed by a better Resolution, because of changed circumstances, but only if it is in line with Serbia’s Constitution.

The Government has to say that they do not wish to violate United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 in any way, because it sounds better than saying that the International Community is being blackmailed to reject Democracy and Human Rights by mainly America, with France, Britain, and Germany being the other leading culprits.

The Minister for Kosovo Goran Bogdanovic said that it was up to the United Nations Mission in Serbia’s Province of Kosovo was in charge of organizing Local Elections.

Even though local elections were not held in Kosovo from 1999 until 2008, there has been a practice of Democracy and Elections in North Kosovo, for the last 4 years, and the People are not giving that up, because America says that Democracy is very good, and that it is worth making sacrifices for, and Many People in Europe agree with that.

If the Government in Belgrade were to appoint Administors, then it would be Democratic if they knew who would be most accepted if they were appointed.

This can be done by the People of North Kosovo holding an informal Election, and where the Government of Serbia picks the person that is most proffered to be the Administrator.

The Serb leaders from the municipalities in North Kosovo said last month that they would go ahead with organizing the Voting regardless of the decision made by the authorities in Belgrade.

This was criticized by Bogdanovic who said it was not good for Serbs to have their own Opinion in a DS American approved model of Pseudo Democracy, but this should not be approved, but rather Reproved.

I think that the People in North Kosovo should have two Referendums, and an Election to see which Party the appointed Administrators come from, in order to prevent possible AdminisTraitors.

One Referendum would be a repeat Referendum to reject the Authorities based in Pristina, and the other Referendum would to reject AdminsTraitors.

There are more than enough Albanians who want a Mono Ethnic Greater Albania, and if any Albanian in Authority does not go along with that, then they will certainly be dealt with, and this is only the Most Dedicated amongst the Albanians seeks positions of power in Albanian Society.

george

pre 12 godina

Tadic and his croonies claim Kosovo is Serbian,than how do you refuse the people of Kosovo the right to DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. I guess its only for the people that Tadic's masters THE AMERICANS say can live FREE!

MorinaB

pre 12 godina

You are an idiot bob (Bob, 15 April 2012 17:57).
You suggest that the north declare indipendence but you seem to either forget or be ignorant that there is Preshevo, and Bujanovac that are full of Albanians who are looking forward for a move such as that by the Serbs in the north of Mitrovica so they can do the same. Preshevo and Bujanovac are only two important examples I mention and the list is longer that needs no mention.
A move like it would flame fires that would be really unpredictable and near impossible to handle without wars in the ballkans again.
Please before you start making idiotic suggestions think of the north not only as a one piece puzzle.

Now on the topic of not holding elections in Kosovo, from the prespective of those who would like to join Europe, this decision is good for Serbia. It is good economically and socially. Yea the EU is struggling as is the world, some less some more, but nonetheless that is not the fault of European Union, it is souly the fault of the countries that got themselves in debt that they knew they can't handle.

From the view of nationalists, well we all know what happened last time they were in power and elected Milosevic. Serbian conservative nationalists were the reason why Kosovo was lost, they did not only loose Kosovo but they are the cause for Yugoslavias break up. Nationalists had their chance and they showed the world how they handle things, now because of their mess that Tadic tried to clean up and get Serbia to move forward the nationalists again got involved and prevented his government from doing their job. When Tadic couldn't clean their mess as always they (the nationalists) turned and called their own people traitors, and pointed fingers when in fact they, especially the SNS, should apologize to all former Yugoslavian countries and far most to Serbians for ruining everything.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

(NATO New Albanian Territorial Offensive, 15 April 2012 18:16)

Ahahaha, ya thats it, we listened to Pristina and what they had to say. If you think anyone other than the West runs the show in Kosovo you are just delusional but thats okay.

I love how you guys are now asking for parts of Macedonia, Greece and Montenegro...because this time the mighty West won't be able to help you.

Jo

pre 12 godina

Go ahead and you better have your elections cause nobody can stop you to show your oppinion as self goverment North Kosovo people.You have your rights dont loose your chance!

VB

pre 12 godina

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 stipulates that customs officers of Republic of Serbia should be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo. That includes border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM.

Why has that not been implemented if we are to respect all provisions of UNSCR 1244!?

Double standards as usual.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Happy Easter to all chosen people of the Orthodox Church. The only religion that can say were founded directly by Jesus Christ.

Dogodine u Prizrenu!

Bob

pre 12 godina

Serbia was bombed into submission - the recent careful operations of Tadic and his government are pragmatically trying to make the best of an inherited bad situation.

Declarations that Tadic is a 'traitor' miss the point that there is no other meaningful route forward for Serbia to retain any degree of control of its territory of Kosovo. There will not be a war on the issue for a considerable time yet - it may take 50 or 100 years until reoccupation by force becomes even the beginnings of an option for Serb nationalists. What other options are there for Serbia other than to go along with 1244 and try to dig out whatever can be retained?

In the meantime, the North should declare itself independent from Pristina but seek to be governed from Belgrade. Belgrade cannot engineer this - it has to be locally driven.

Serbs in the rest of the province will have to wait longer - Albanians have a disgusting mono-ethnic ambition that was a prime cause of the wars in the first place - the international community should be responsible for policing the rest of Kosovo to ensure that Serbs there are well protected from racist Albanian policies.

The assumption that Albanians should in any way rule in the north of Kosovo cannot stand given that there is a majority of Serbs whose lands are fully adjacent to the main body of their country of birth.

icj1

pre 12 godina

"The minister once again urged respect of Resolution 1244, and asserted that Belgrade "expects negotiations on the status of Kosovo to commence very soon", and that those negotiations would be based on the UN Security Council document, adopted in 1999 to end the war over Kosovo"

Well, it appears the Minister has not read the news or spoken with his collegaue Vuk for a couple of years, otherwise he would know that a solution of Kosovo's status in accordance with Resolution 1244 has already been achieved thanks to Vuk's tireless efforts.

icj1

pre 12 godina

The Serbian Government says that it does not want to violate United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, but that Resolution allows for up to 1,999 Serbian soldiers and policeman to enter Kosovo
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

I guess you meant Yet Another J S’s Resolution allows for up to 1,999 Serbian soldiers and policeman to enter Kosovo because UNSC’s Resolution says that “an agreed” number can do that and unfortunately the “agreed” number is 0 so far.
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and UNSCR 1244 can be changed by a better Resolution, because of changed circumstances, but only if it is in line with Serbia’s Constitution.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

Dear, nobody gives a hoot about Serbia’s Constitution. The UNSC is bound by the UN charter not Serbia, Kosovo, or anybody else’s Constitution.
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This can be done by the People of North Kosovo holding an informal Election, and where the Government of Serbia picks the person that is most proffered to be the Administrator.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

What is an “informal election” ?!
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The Serb leaders from the municipalities in North Kosovo said last month that they would go ahead with organizing the Voting regardless of the decision made by the authorities in Belgrade.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

That makes sense; every municipality can organize the elections whenever they want – that’s what Kosovo’s Constitution guarantees for Kosovo Serbs to manage their own local affairs.
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I think that the People in North Kosovo should have two Referendums, and an Election to see which Party the appointed Administrators come from, in order to prevent possible AdminisTraitors.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

Of course, they can hold 3 referendums a day, if they wish… one for breakfast, one for lunch and another one for dinner…
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Let me remind Bogdanovic and the rest of his yellow traitors, it is written in the Serbian constitution that Kosovo is Serbia, and elections WILL be held there.
(Dragan, 15 April 2012 15:37)

Dear, UNSC Resolution 1244, which is the bible for Serbs, comes before Serbia’s Constitution in regards to Kosovo.

FlorentH

pre 12 godina

"The minister once again urged respect of Resolution 1244, and asserted that Belgrade "expects negotiations on the status of Kosovo to commence very soon", and that those negotiations would be based on the UN Security Council document, adopted in 1999 to end the war over Kosovo."

www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/141/15987.pdf

pss

pre 12 godina

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 stipulates that customs officers of Republic of Serbia should be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo. That includes border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM.

Why has that not been implemented if we are to respect all provisions of UNSCR 1244!?

Double standards as usual.
(VB, 15 April 2012 22:51)
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Maybe you should try reading 1244, I bet you have a hard time finding what you said in there. As it does not say anything even remotely close to that.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Bob that's an interesting post. On the one hand you are saying all is lost for the Serbs of Kosovo, on the other hand you are saying the north should declare independence?
Despite the propoganda from the west, all is not lost Bob. In fact, nothing is lost. NATO's complete failure to dislodge the brave Serbian army out of Kosovo led to UN Resolution 1244, which the NATO war criminals signed, and which guarantees that Kosovo is Serbia. On top of that, the west is in decline, huge decline. Look at the EU and the US of A, look at the uncontrollable debt they are under, and it's getting worse every day. Then look at Russia, a rising power with endless resources (resources which the world does not have, but needs badly), and a very educated population, which is Serbia's number one ally.
Time is on our side Bob, we can wait it out, and we will wait it out. We don't have to sign anything, we don't have to join any German run clubs such as the EU, we can trade with anyone and use the value of the Dinar to a trade advantage, and we can remain free and independent, unlike all our neighbours. The west needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the west, and that's a fact.
NATO has supported Bin Laden in both Bosnia and Kosovo, they supported neo-fascists in Croatia and inflicted a US sponsored genocide on the Serbian population there. The western leaders responsible for this, Bliar, Clinton, Genscher, Albright, Holbrooke...these are all war criminals, and history will write them this way. Facts are facts - and the truth is with the Serbs. So Bob, please tell your organ snatching terrorist friends who run that fictional creation to enjoy their reign of terror while they can, because we know what's ours is ours, and we'll be back.
Cheers!!

icj1

pre 12 godina

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 stipulates that customs officers of Republic of Serbia should be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo. That includes border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM.

Why has that not been implemented if we are to respect all provisions of UNSCR 1244!?

Double standards as usual.
(VB, 15 April 2012 22:51)

Of course, according to 1244 "an agreed" number of customs officers of Republic of Serbia can be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo, including border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM as soon as the number is "agreed" :)

Bob

pre 12 godina

Dragan

You dream. The EU, US and the West will not collapse in the way you hope they will.

If you depend on that for your success you will never get what you want.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Dragan

You dream. The EU, US and the West will not collapse in the way you hope they will.

If you depend on that for your success you will never get what you want.
(Bob, 16 April 2012 11:58)

I am not the one dreaming Bob:
http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Have a close look at the most indebted countries - yep, the US of A and western Europe leading the charge. Also, have a look at the unfunded liabilities of the US of A - 118.5 Trillion and counting. Are you good at math Bob? Or are you one of those artsy fartsy political types who don't have a clue with numbers?
Yeah, and I'm the one dreaming...LOL. I will spell it out for you Bob: The US of A is already bankrupt, they have to slash everything (and I mean everything), especially military spending and medicaire/medicaid, they have to raise taxes in a huge way, and even then they will still go bankrupt. The west has been living above its means for years and years, and it's time to chop up the credit cards come back to reality. Either that, or welcome to hyperinflation and the dollar turning into the peso. The first thing to get cut is unnecessary fiascos like troops in Kosovo - it's going to happen sooner than you think.
Cheers!!

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

"In the meantime, the North should declare itself independent from Pristina"

Haven't they already practically done it in their referendum?

Bob

pre 12 godina

MorinaB

Preshevo is and will remain part of Serbia. That is not a reason to insist that NKosovo should be ruled by Pristina. There is nothing stupid in the locals of NKosovo being ruled by the country they were born to.

You might like Presevo to be part of the jigsaw, but it is not, and it is not going to be.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

I wouldn't expect simpletons to understand the debt bubble in the west that is about to burst, so keep living the 'dream' and flipping those pizzas in Brooklyn icj! Your party is almost over and the hangover is about to start. Cheers!!

icj1

pre 12 godina

"In the meantime, the North should declare itself independent from Pristina"

Haven't they already practically done it in their referendum?
(aaayyy, 16 April 2012 10:45)

That's not what they said in their referendum. In addition, as Dragan very clearly and convincigly explained Kosovo (and hence Pristina, as well) is Serbia and that is guaranteed by Resolution 1244 (the same resolution (i) the Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with, (ii) that guarantees that the Serbian army can't return to Kosovo, (iii) that guarantees that Serbia can't hold local elections in Kosovo).

So what's the North declaring independence from ? From Serbia ?!

icj1

pre 12 godina

I am not the one dreaming Bob:
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Have a close look at the most indebted countries - yep, the US of A and western Europe leading the charge. Also, have a look at the unfunded liabilities of the US of A - 118.5 Trillion and counting. Are you good at math Bob? Or are you one of those artsy fartsy political types who don't have a clue with numbers?
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 21:58)

Ok, you are right on this Dragan. We should immigrate to Mozambique since according to your criteria that should be a paradise on Earth with only USD 156 of debt per person. Happy life in Mozambique to everybody (assuming of course that you don’t starve within the next 12 months).
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Yeah, and I'm the one dreaming...LOL. I will spell it out for you Bob: The US of A is already bankrupt, they have to slash everything (and I mean everything), especially military spending and medicaire/medicaid, they have to raise taxes in a huge way, and even then they will still go bankrupt. The west has been living above its means for years and years, and it's time to chop up the credit cards come back to reality. Either that, or welcome to hyperinflation and the dollar turning into the peso. The first thing to get cut is unnecessary fiascos like troops in Kosovo - it's going to happen sooner than you think.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 21:58)

Of course, that’s why it is so important that Resolution 1244 continues to be in force, especially since it’s the Bible and Koran for Serbs.
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Despite the propoganda from the west, all is not lost Bob. In fact, nothing is lost. NATO's complete failure to dislodge the brave Serbian army out of Kosovo led to UN Resolution 1244, which the NATO war criminals signed, and which guarantees that Kosovo is Serbia.
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

Woow, that’s not what that great Serb patriot called Slobodan said… he thought that in adopting Resolution 1244, the UNSC wrote one of the darkest pages of its history by being instrumental in a de facto dismemberment of a sovereign European State. But if you think that Slobodan was wrong, there is certainly no problem with that; actually it’s welcome that there is something where you and Albanians in Kosovo converge.
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On top of that, the west is in decline, huge decline. Look at the EU and the US of A, look at the uncontrollable debt they are under, and it's getting worse every day. Then look at Russia, a rising power with endless resources (resources which the world does not have, but needs badly), and a very educated population, which is Serbia's number one ally.
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

That’s why Russia’s population is declining by the millions in the last decade and Russians are emigrating to the bankrupt US ?! Please Dragan educate the Russians to have them learn how much a paradise their country is LOL
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Time is on our side Bob, we can wait it out, and we will wait it out. We don't have to sign anything, we don't have to join any German run clubs such as the EU, we can trade with anyone and use the value of the Dinar to a trade advantage, and we can remain free and independent, unlike all our neighbours. The west needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the west, and that's a fact.
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

That’s fine… If you and Serb politicians think that the sun revolves around Serbia LOL That is the single most important factor that helped Kosovo become independent from Serbia.
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NATO has supported Bin Laden in both Bosnia and Kosovo, they supported neo-fascists in Croatia and inflicted a US sponsored genocide on the Serbian population there. The western leaders responsible for this, Bliar, Clinton, Genscher, Albright, Holbrooke...these are all war criminals, and history will write them this way. Facts are facts - and the truth is with the Serbs. So Bob, please tell your organ snatching terrorist friends who run that fictional creation to enjoy their reign of terror while they can, because we know what's ours is ours, and we'll be back.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

Sure, but that does not mean that they will collapse just because you hate them and you wish them to collapse LOL
Cheers!

icj1

pre 12 godina

I wouldn't expect simpletons to understand the debt bubble in the west that is about to burst, so keep living the 'dream' and flipping those pizzas in Brooklyn icj! Your party is almost over and the hangover is about to start. Cheers!!
(Dragan, 17 April 2012 13:26)

Of course, that's why I invited all readers to follow your advice and emmigrate to the Mozambique paradise which does not suffer from the debt bubble problem. Good luck to everybody going there, hopefully you don't starve in the next few months :)

NATO New Albanian Territorial Offensive

pre 12 godina

Lets not over complicate the issue. Pristina told Serbia that they will not hold any elections in Kosova. Serbia realized that they are powerless to stop Pristina. If Serbia ever tried to hold elections KPS would shut down those polling booths faster than you can say "serbian war criminals". NONE of these current Serbian candidates are willing to be put in that position of explaining why it is Serbia cannot hold elections. Serb politicians would then be asked "what is your response to KPS shutting down the polling booths?". Im glad Pristina has wisened up and decided to excercise their right to control their internal affairs. Serbs think they are the only ones that can say "no". Well, Kosovars have that same ability and they told Serbia no elections. Everyone knows it has nothing to do with 1244 or 2236 or 12345. It has to do with Pristina saying NO as well as the international community supporting the Kosovars. Enjoy "hearing" about the elections over the internet and radio Kosovar Serbs. Thats the most involvement that you will have:)

Dragan

pre 12 godina

This is why Tadic and his pathetic quislings need to go. They talk about protecting Kosovo, but just look at what they are doing, not what they are saying. Let me remind Bogdanovic and the rest of his yellow traitors, it is written in the Serbian constitution that Kosovo is Serbia, and elections WILL be held there. To deny this right is an act of treason. Kosovo Serbs need to keep ignoring these traitors, for their time is almost up.

Bob

pre 12 godina

Serbia was bombed into submission - the recent careful operations of Tadic and his government are pragmatically trying to make the best of an inherited bad situation.

Declarations that Tadic is a 'traitor' miss the point that there is no other meaningful route forward for Serbia to retain any degree of control of its territory of Kosovo. There will not be a war on the issue for a considerable time yet - it may take 50 or 100 years until reoccupation by force becomes even the beginnings of an option for Serb nationalists. What other options are there for Serbia other than to go along with 1244 and try to dig out whatever can be retained?

In the meantime, the North should declare itself independent from Pristina but seek to be governed from Belgrade. Belgrade cannot engineer this - it has to be locally driven.

Serbs in the rest of the province will have to wait longer - Albanians have a disgusting mono-ethnic ambition that was a prime cause of the wars in the first place - the international community should be responsible for policing the rest of Kosovo to ensure that Serbs there are well protected from racist Albanian policies.

The assumption that Albanians should in any way rule in the north of Kosovo cannot stand given that there is a majority of Serbs whose lands are fully adjacent to the main body of their country of birth.

NATO New Albanian Treaty Organization

pre 12 godina

Just tell everyone that it was Pristina that told you there will be no elections. Its ok Bogdanovic, everyone already knows this.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

(NATO New Albanian Territorial Offensive, 15 April 2012 18:16)

Ahahaha, ya thats it, we listened to Pristina and what they had to say. If you think anyone other than the West runs the show in Kosovo you are just delusional but thats okay.

I love how you guys are now asking for parts of Macedonia, Greece and Montenegro...because this time the mighty West won't be able to help you.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Happy Easter to all chosen people of the Orthodox Church. The only religion that can say were founded directly by Jesus Christ.

Dogodine u Prizrenu!

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

The Serbian Government says that they are Committed to the Highest Standards of Democracy known to Mankind, and want to appoint Administrators rather than organize Elections.

This decision was made because the Parliament in Belgrade knows from History and the recent murders of Slavs from FYROM that wanting Democracy could endanger those Serbs and other Non Albanians who live in enclaves in South Kosovo.

The Serbian Government says that it does not want to violate United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, but that Resolution allows for up to 1,999 Serbian soldiers and policeman to enter Kosovo, and UNSCR 1244 can be changed by a better Resolution, because of changed circumstances, but only if it is in line with Serbia’s Constitution.

The Government has to say that they do not wish to violate United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 in any way, because it sounds better than saying that the International Community is being blackmailed to reject Democracy and Human Rights by mainly America, with France, Britain, and Germany being the other leading culprits.

The Minister for Kosovo Goran Bogdanovic said that it was up to the United Nations Mission in Serbia’s Province of Kosovo was in charge of organizing Local Elections.

Even though local elections were not held in Kosovo from 1999 until 2008, there has been a practice of Democracy and Elections in North Kosovo, for the last 4 years, and the People are not giving that up, because America says that Democracy is very good, and that it is worth making sacrifices for, and Many People in Europe agree with that.

If the Government in Belgrade were to appoint Administors, then it would be Democratic if they knew who would be most accepted if they were appointed.

This can be done by the People of North Kosovo holding an informal Election, and where the Government of Serbia picks the person that is most proffered to be the Administrator.

The Serb leaders from the municipalities in North Kosovo said last month that they would go ahead with organizing the Voting regardless of the decision made by the authorities in Belgrade.

This was criticized by Bogdanovic who said it was not good for Serbs to have their own Opinion in a DS American approved model of Pseudo Democracy, but this should not be approved, but rather Reproved.

I think that the People in North Kosovo should have two Referendums, and an Election to see which Party the appointed Administrators come from, in order to prevent possible AdminisTraitors.

One Referendum would be a repeat Referendum to reject the Authorities based in Pristina, and the other Referendum would to reject AdminsTraitors.

There are more than enough Albanians who want a Mono Ethnic Greater Albania, and if any Albanian in Authority does not go along with that, then they will certainly be dealt with, and this is only the Most Dedicated amongst the Albanians seeks positions of power in Albanian Society.

george

pre 12 godina

Tadic and his croonies claim Kosovo is Serbian,than how do you refuse the people of Kosovo the right to DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. I guess its only for the people that Tadic's masters THE AMERICANS say can live FREE!

VB

pre 12 godina

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 stipulates that customs officers of Republic of Serbia should be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo. That includes border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM.

Why has that not been implemented if we are to respect all provisions of UNSCR 1244!?

Double standards as usual.

icj1

pre 12 godina

The Serbian Government says that it does not want to violate United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, but that Resolution allows for up to 1,999 Serbian soldiers and policeman to enter Kosovo
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

I guess you meant Yet Another J S’s Resolution allows for up to 1,999 Serbian soldiers and policeman to enter Kosovo because UNSC’s Resolution says that “an agreed” number can do that and unfortunately the “agreed” number is 0 so far.
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and UNSCR 1244 can be changed by a better Resolution, because of changed circumstances, but only if it is in line with Serbia’s Constitution.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

Dear, nobody gives a hoot about Serbia’s Constitution. The UNSC is bound by the UN charter not Serbia, Kosovo, or anybody else’s Constitution.
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This can be done by the People of North Kosovo holding an informal Election, and where the Government of Serbia picks the person that is most proffered to be the Administrator.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

What is an “informal election” ?!
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The Serb leaders from the municipalities in North Kosovo said last month that they would go ahead with organizing the Voting regardless of the decision made by the authorities in Belgrade.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

That makes sense; every municipality can organize the elections whenever they want – that’s what Kosovo’s Constitution guarantees for Kosovo Serbs to manage their own local affairs.
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I think that the People in North Kosovo should have two Referendums, and an Election to see which Party the appointed Administrators come from, in order to prevent possible AdminisTraitors.
(Yet Another J S, 15 April 2012 15:00)

Of course, they can hold 3 referendums a day, if they wish… one for breakfast, one for lunch and another one for dinner…
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Let me remind Bogdanovic and the rest of his yellow traitors, it is written in the Serbian constitution that Kosovo is Serbia, and elections WILL be held there.
(Dragan, 15 April 2012 15:37)

Dear, UNSC Resolution 1244, which is the bible for Serbs, comes before Serbia’s Constitution in regards to Kosovo.

Jo

pre 12 godina

Go ahead and you better have your elections cause nobody can stop you to show your oppinion as self goverment North Kosovo people.You have your rights dont loose your chance!

MorinaB

pre 12 godina

You are an idiot bob (Bob, 15 April 2012 17:57).
You suggest that the north declare indipendence but you seem to either forget or be ignorant that there is Preshevo, and Bujanovac that are full of Albanians who are looking forward for a move such as that by the Serbs in the north of Mitrovica so they can do the same. Preshevo and Bujanovac are only two important examples I mention and the list is longer that needs no mention.
A move like it would flame fires that would be really unpredictable and near impossible to handle without wars in the ballkans again.
Please before you start making idiotic suggestions think of the north not only as a one piece puzzle.

Now on the topic of not holding elections in Kosovo, from the prespective of those who would like to join Europe, this decision is good for Serbia. It is good economically and socially. Yea the EU is struggling as is the world, some less some more, but nonetheless that is not the fault of European Union, it is souly the fault of the countries that got themselves in debt that they knew they can't handle.

From the view of nationalists, well we all know what happened last time they were in power and elected Milosevic. Serbian conservative nationalists were the reason why Kosovo was lost, they did not only loose Kosovo but they are the cause for Yugoslavias break up. Nationalists had their chance and they showed the world how they handle things, now because of their mess that Tadic tried to clean up and get Serbia to move forward the nationalists again got involved and prevented his government from doing their job. When Tadic couldn't clean their mess as always they (the nationalists) turned and called their own people traitors, and pointed fingers when in fact they, especially the SNS, should apologize to all former Yugoslavian countries and far most to Serbians for ruining everything.

Bob

pre 12 godina

MorinaB

Preshevo is and will remain part of Serbia. That is not a reason to insist that NKosovo should be ruled by Pristina. There is nothing stupid in the locals of NKosovo being ruled by the country they were born to.

You might like Presevo to be part of the jigsaw, but it is not, and it is not going to be.

icj1

pre 12 godina

"The minister once again urged respect of Resolution 1244, and asserted that Belgrade "expects negotiations on the status of Kosovo to commence very soon", and that those negotiations would be based on the UN Security Council document, adopted in 1999 to end the war over Kosovo"

Well, it appears the Minister has not read the news or spoken with his collegaue Vuk for a couple of years, otherwise he would know that a solution of Kosovo's status in accordance with Resolution 1244 has already been achieved thanks to Vuk's tireless efforts.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Bob that's an interesting post. On the one hand you are saying all is lost for the Serbs of Kosovo, on the other hand you are saying the north should declare independence?
Despite the propoganda from the west, all is not lost Bob. In fact, nothing is lost. NATO's complete failure to dislodge the brave Serbian army out of Kosovo led to UN Resolution 1244, which the NATO war criminals signed, and which guarantees that Kosovo is Serbia. On top of that, the west is in decline, huge decline. Look at the EU and the US of A, look at the uncontrollable debt they are under, and it's getting worse every day. Then look at Russia, a rising power with endless resources (resources which the world does not have, but needs badly), and a very educated population, which is Serbia's number one ally.
Time is on our side Bob, we can wait it out, and we will wait it out. We don't have to sign anything, we don't have to join any German run clubs such as the EU, we can trade with anyone and use the value of the Dinar to a trade advantage, and we can remain free and independent, unlike all our neighbours. The west needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the west, and that's a fact.
NATO has supported Bin Laden in both Bosnia and Kosovo, they supported neo-fascists in Croatia and inflicted a US sponsored genocide on the Serbian population there. The western leaders responsible for this, Bliar, Clinton, Genscher, Albright, Holbrooke...these are all war criminals, and history will write them this way. Facts are facts - and the truth is with the Serbs. So Bob, please tell your organ snatching terrorist friends who run that fictional creation to enjoy their reign of terror while they can, because we know what's ours is ours, and we'll be back.
Cheers!!

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

"In the meantime, the North should declare itself independent from Pristina"

Haven't they already practically done it in their referendum?

Bob

pre 12 godina

Dragan

You dream. The EU, US and the West will not collapse in the way you hope they will.

If you depend on that for your success you will never get what you want.

FlorentH

pre 12 godina

"The minister once again urged respect of Resolution 1244, and asserted that Belgrade "expects negotiations on the status of Kosovo to commence very soon", and that those negotiations would be based on the UN Security Council document, adopted in 1999 to end the war over Kosovo."

www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/141/15987.pdf

pss

pre 12 godina

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 stipulates that customs officers of Republic of Serbia should be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo. That includes border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM.

Why has that not been implemented if we are to respect all provisions of UNSCR 1244!?

Double standards as usual.
(VB, 15 April 2012 22:51)
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Maybe you should try reading 1244, I bet you have a hard time finding what you said in there. As it does not say anything even remotely close to that.

icj1

pre 12 godina

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 stipulates that customs officers of Republic of Serbia should be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo. That includes border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM.

Why has that not been implemented if we are to respect all provisions of UNSCR 1244!?

Double standards as usual.
(VB, 15 April 2012 22:51)

Of course, according to 1244 "an agreed" number of customs officers of Republic of Serbia can be positioned on all major border crossings of Kosovo, including border crossings of Kosovo with Albania, Montenegro, FYRoM as soon as the number is "agreed" :)

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Dragan

You dream. The EU, US and the West will not collapse in the way you hope they will.

If you depend on that for your success you will never get what you want.
(Bob, 16 April 2012 11:58)

I am not the one dreaming Bob:
http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Have a close look at the most indebted countries - yep, the US of A and western Europe leading the charge. Also, have a look at the unfunded liabilities of the US of A - 118.5 Trillion and counting. Are you good at math Bob? Or are you one of those artsy fartsy political types who don't have a clue with numbers?
Yeah, and I'm the one dreaming...LOL. I will spell it out for you Bob: The US of A is already bankrupt, they have to slash everything (and I mean everything), especially military spending and medicaire/medicaid, they have to raise taxes in a huge way, and even then they will still go bankrupt. The west has been living above its means for years and years, and it's time to chop up the credit cards come back to reality. Either that, or welcome to hyperinflation and the dollar turning into the peso. The first thing to get cut is unnecessary fiascos like troops in Kosovo - it's going to happen sooner than you think.
Cheers!!

icj1

pre 12 godina

"In the meantime, the North should declare itself independent from Pristina"

Haven't they already practically done it in their referendum?
(aaayyy, 16 April 2012 10:45)

That's not what they said in their referendum. In addition, as Dragan very clearly and convincigly explained Kosovo (and hence Pristina, as well) is Serbia and that is guaranteed by Resolution 1244 (the same resolution (i) the Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with, (ii) that guarantees that the Serbian army can't return to Kosovo, (iii) that guarantees that Serbia can't hold local elections in Kosovo).

So what's the North declaring independence from ? From Serbia ?!

icj1

pre 12 godina

I am not the one dreaming Bob:
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Have a close look at the most indebted countries - yep, the US of A and western Europe leading the charge. Also, have a look at the unfunded liabilities of the US of A - 118.5 Trillion and counting. Are you good at math Bob? Or are you one of those artsy fartsy political types who don't have a clue with numbers?
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 21:58)

Ok, you are right on this Dragan. We should immigrate to Mozambique since according to your criteria that should be a paradise on Earth with only USD 156 of debt per person. Happy life in Mozambique to everybody (assuming of course that you don’t starve within the next 12 months).
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Yeah, and I'm the one dreaming...LOL. I will spell it out for you Bob: The US of A is already bankrupt, they have to slash everything (and I mean everything), especially military spending and medicaire/medicaid, they have to raise taxes in a huge way, and even then they will still go bankrupt. The west has been living above its means for years and years, and it's time to chop up the credit cards come back to reality. Either that, or welcome to hyperinflation and the dollar turning into the peso. The first thing to get cut is unnecessary fiascos like troops in Kosovo - it's going to happen sooner than you think.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 21:58)

Of course, that’s why it is so important that Resolution 1244 continues to be in force, especially since it’s the Bible and Koran for Serbs.
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Despite the propoganda from the west, all is not lost Bob. In fact, nothing is lost. NATO's complete failure to dislodge the brave Serbian army out of Kosovo led to UN Resolution 1244, which the NATO war criminals signed, and which guarantees that Kosovo is Serbia.
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

Woow, that’s not what that great Serb patriot called Slobodan said… he thought that in adopting Resolution 1244, the UNSC wrote one of the darkest pages of its history by being instrumental in a de facto dismemberment of a sovereign European State. But if you think that Slobodan was wrong, there is certainly no problem with that; actually it’s welcome that there is something where you and Albanians in Kosovo converge.
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On top of that, the west is in decline, huge decline. Look at the EU and the US of A, look at the uncontrollable debt they are under, and it's getting worse every day. Then look at Russia, a rising power with endless resources (resources which the world does not have, but needs badly), and a very educated population, which is Serbia's number one ally.
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

That’s why Russia’s population is declining by the millions in the last decade and Russians are emigrating to the bankrupt US ?! Please Dragan educate the Russians to have them learn how much a paradise their country is LOL
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Time is on our side Bob, we can wait it out, and we will wait it out. We don't have to sign anything, we don't have to join any German run clubs such as the EU, we can trade with anyone and use the value of the Dinar to a trade advantage, and we can remain free and independent, unlike all our neighbours. The west needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the west, and that's a fact.
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

That’s fine… If you and Serb politicians think that the sun revolves around Serbia LOL That is the single most important factor that helped Kosovo become independent from Serbia.
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NATO has supported Bin Laden in both Bosnia and Kosovo, they supported neo-fascists in Croatia and inflicted a US sponsored genocide on the Serbian population there. The western leaders responsible for this, Bliar, Clinton, Genscher, Albright, Holbrooke...these are all war criminals, and history will write them this way. Facts are facts - and the truth is with the Serbs. So Bob, please tell your organ snatching terrorist friends who run that fictional creation to enjoy their reign of terror while they can, because we know what's ours is ours, and we'll be back.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 16 April 2012 01:43)

Sure, but that does not mean that they will collapse just because you hate them and you wish them to collapse LOL
Cheers!

Dragan

pre 12 godina

I wouldn't expect simpletons to understand the debt bubble in the west that is about to burst, so keep living the 'dream' and flipping those pizzas in Brooklyn icj! Your party is almost over and the hangover is about to start. Cheers!!

icj1

pre 12 godina

I wouldn't expect simpletons to understand the debt bubble in the west that is about to burst, so keep living the 'dream' and flipping those pizzas in Brooklyn icj! Your party is almost over and the hangover is about to start. Cheers!!
(Dragan, 17 April 2012 13:26)

Of course, that's why I invited all readers to follow your advice and emmigrate to the Mozambique paradise which does not suffer from the debt bubble problem. Good luck to everybody going there, hopefully you don't starve in the next few months :)