NIS to help preserve Orthodox temples

Irinej thanked “the Russian brothers”, who “have always been with Serbia and Serbia with them”, for their good will.

Yes of course! What political party they belong?
(EA, 11 April 2012 16:25)
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I have asked before why it's always the Albanians who comment here first and in greater numbers to which I received a reply that these matters are of concern to Albanians.
So EA how is this of any of your concern?
The truth is that Albanians cannot help themselves. They think they are so clever in coming up with smart arse remarks and just have to show it.
No you're not. You are just showing your primitive urges to cause trouble, irritate and feel better by trying to make the other side look silly.
So do let us know what has this got to do with you.

Russians and Serbs are brothers and need to stay this way forever. Unfortunately Serbia has too many sellouts and this will put this brotherhood to the test.

Irinej thanked “the Russian brothers”, who “have always been with Serbia and Serbia with them”, for their good will.

Yes of course! What political party they belong?

Tell me Peggy should the church have guns in their premises? Should the church make political speeches? Do you know what a political speech is?
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What guns on their premisses are you talking about?
The church is only concerned with welfare of their flock and yes they can make political speeches if the politics of the day harm their flock.
What is your Muslim Mufti doing going for a political office? Concern yourself with that instead of what our church is doing.
Now be a good boy and mind your own business instead of what we are doing.

I don't have a Mufti...I don't need one. For me all religious leaders are a waste of space and money of couse.

I just don't want them to get involved in politics....because it is not nice to see a burned down church or mosque....You get my point this time?
(EA, 12 April 2012 19:47)

Now I understand what you saying and disagree.

Reasons:

#1: "all religious leaders are a waste of space and money of couse". Incorrect because in many countries they provide a pretty much respected backbone to the politics. Neutal example: Bhutan, Thailand, etc. Their role is not necessary progressive that is true but the coin has two sides.

#2: Under normal circumstances religious leaders being involved in politics SHOULD NOT result in burned down church or mosque (or temple). If that happens it is a sign of barbarism. See destroyed temples / monasteries in Tibet (intentionally staying on the neutral ground).

If you condemn what Chinese Red Guards did in Tibet during "cultural revolution" than you have to condemn 2004 of course. Regardless, is Dalai Lama (or SPC) spearheading the progress or not (probably not, religious institutions are conservative).

#3: At certain times being progressive is "in", at certain times being conservative is "in". We can agree, both Golden Horde and Ottoman Empire did bring a lot of suffering. Both RPC and SPC were crucial to resistance. Without the resistance and crucial role of RPC the Golden Horde would spread all over and probably the last you want would be the territory of Balkans occupied by Mongols. That it did not happen - say thanks to RPC.

What kind of loss of blood and life did happen between 1239 and mid-16th century is up to your imagination.

The role of RPC can be seen on icons which represent a style unknown in Serbia.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/ChurchMilitant.jpg

BTW: the fate of captured Mongol / Kipchak -s was often better than of the captured Christians.

Example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yadegar_Moxammat

Kosovo Albanians and we Albanians from Albania are brothers more than as you put it

"Russians and Serbs are brothers and need to stay this way forever."

Do you understand now why we are concerned about the activity of the Serbian "church" in Kosovo?
(EA, 12 April 2012 00:26)
The difference is that neither the Albanians in Kosovo or in Albania have a copper nickel between them, but our brother Russia has lots of money and you give it some thought who will come out of this a winner – just alittle we don’t want you pulling a muscle.

Yes of course! What political party they belong?
(EA, 11 April 2012 16:25)

Dunno. Maybe the Donkey Donna party or Donkey Hoxha, not sure. Or maybe Magarac Joe Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Magarac

Last time Magaraqi Hoxha was seen riding a donkey uphill, holding a screeming Macedonian girl in his right hand, her left kidney in his left hand, her golden necklace stolen in his pocket and chasing a car with Serbian license plates.

Now you are satisfied, you got the answer you did crave for - and hope your computer time did not run out, if it did, ask your mom to extend it.

The donkey ride of Magaraqi Hoxha is not Olympic discipline yet - but you may ask Lunatic Ulrike, maybe (s)he can help you.

So EA how is this of any of your concern?

My concern is you Peggy

because my comment does NOT "urges to cause trouble, irritate and feel better by trying to make the other side look silly." as you accept it.

I just do not think that the church should be dealing with politics because people who do on behalf of "church" will get themselves in trouble.

Tell me Peggy should the church have guns in their premises? Should the church make political speeches? Do you know what a political speech is?

Coming to your second question

"So do let us know what has this got to do with you."

With me personally nothing at all. I am originally from Tirana and visited Kosovo only in one day trip (nice motorway )))).

Kosovo Albanians and we Albanians from Albania are brothers more than as you put it

"Russians and Serbs are brothers and need to stay this way forever."

Do you understand now why we are concerned about the activity of the Serbian "church" in Kosovo?

(Joe Magarac, 12 April 2012 02:52)

You think you are really funny...but in fact I think you haven't had a good sleep last night...or too much Russian vodka...

You think you are really funny...but in fact I think you haven't had a good sleep last night...or too much Russian vodka...
(EA, 12 April 2012 10:39)

#1: not a big fan of vodka. Skenderbeg is my weakness but I run out of it. I know qute some Albanians who love vodka tough. Speak about stereotypes.

#2: idiotic and provoking question = idiotic and provoking answer. That's fair so and in the spirit of your own traditions.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=04&dd=11&nav_id=79730

That guy killed and he was killed. You said some quite silly thing, so you got the same back. No one was killed but the answer was pretty much at the level of the question, I tried hard to be as idiotic as possible just showing you the mirror. Obviously you did not like what you did see. Good, that was the purpose: to be annoying + nasty and not to be funny.

What is your Muslim Mufti doing going for a political office?
(Peggy, 12 April 2012 15:56)

I don't have a Mufti...I don't need one. For me all religious leaders are a waste of space and money of couse.

I just don't want them to get involved in politics....because it is not nice to see a burned down church or mosque....You get my point this time?

Irinej thanked “the Russian brothers”, who “have always been with Serbia and Serbia with them”, for their good will.

Yes of course! What political party they belong?

What is your Muslim Mufti doing going for a political office?
(Peggy, 12 April 2012 15:56)

I don't have a Mufti...I don't need one. For me all religious leaders are a waste of space and money of couse.

I just don't want them to get involved in politics....because it is not nice to see a burned down church or mosque....You get my point this time?

So EA how is this of any of your concern?

My concern is you Peggy

because my comment does NOT "urges to cause trouble, irritate and feel better by trying to make the other side look silly." as you accept it.

I just do not think that the church should be dealing with politics because people who do on behalf of "church" will get themselves in trouble.

Tell me Peggy should the church have guns in their premises? Should the church make political speeches? Do you know what a political speech is?

Coming to your second question

"So do let us know what has this got to do with you."

With me personally nothing at all. I am originally from Tirana and visited Kosovo only in one day trip (nice motorway )))).

Kosovo Albanians and we Albanians from Albania are brothers more than as you put it

"Russians and Serbs are brothers and need to stay this way forever."

Do you understand now why we are concerned about the activity of the Serbian "church" in Kosovo?

Irinej thanked “the Russian brothers”, who “have always been with Serbia and Serbia with them”, for their good will.

Yes of course! What political party they belong?
(EA, 11 April 2012 16:25)
===================================

I have asked before why it's always the Albanians who comment here first and in greater numbers to which I received a reply that these matters are of concern to Albanians.
So EA how is this of any of your concern?
The truth is that Albanians cannot help themselves. They think they are so clever in coming up with smart arse remarks and just have to show it.
No you're not. You are just showing your primitive urges to cause trouble, irritate and feel better by trying to make the other side look silly.
So do let us know what has this got to do with you.

Russians and Serbs are brothers and need to stay this way forever. Unfortunately Serbia has too many sellouts and this will put this brotherhood to the test.

(Joe Magarac, 12 April 2012 02:52)

You think you are really funny...but in fact I think you haven't had a good sleep last night...or too much Russian vodka...

Yes of course! What political party they belong?
(EA, 11 April 2012 16:25)

Dunno. Maybe the Donkey Donna party or Donkey Hoxha, not sure. Or maybe Magarac Joe Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Magarac

Last time Magaraqi Hoxha was seen riding a donkey uphill, holding a screeming Macedonian girl in his right hand, her left kidney in his left hand, her golden necklace stolen in his pocket and chasing a car with Serbian license plates.

Now you are satisfied, you got the answer you did crave for - and hope your computer time did not run out, if it did, ask your mom to extend it.

The donkey ride of Magaraqi Hoxha is not Olympic discipline yet - but you may ask Lunatic Ulrike, maybe (s)he can help you.

You think you are really funny...but in fact I think you haven't had a good sleep last night...or too much Russian vodka...
(EA, 12 April 2012 10:39)

#1: not a big fan of vodka. Skenderbeg is my weakness but I run out of it. I know qute some Albanians who love vodka tough. Speak about stereotypes.

#2: idiotic and provoking question = idiotic and provoking answer. That's fair so and in the spirit of your own traditions.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=04&dd=11&nav_id=79730

That guy killed and he was killed. You said some quite silly thing, so you got the same back. No one was killed but the answer was pretty much at the level of the question, I tried hard to be as idiotic as possible just showing you the mirror. Obviously you did not like what you did see. Good, that was the purpose: to be annoying + nasty and not to be funny.

Kosovo Albanians and we Albanians from Albania are brothers more than as you put it

"Russians and Serbs are brothers and need to stay this way forever."

Do you understand now why we are concerned about the activity of the Serbian "church" in Kosovo?
(EA, 12 April 2012 00:26)
The difference is that neither the Albanians in Kosovo or in Albania have a copper nickel between them, but our brother Russia has lots of money and you give it some thought who will come out of this a winner – just alittle we don’t want you pulling a muscle.

Tell me Peggy should the church have guns in their premises? Should the church make political speeches? Do you know what a political speech is?
======================================

What guns on their premisses are you talking about?
The church is only concerned with welfare of their flock and yes they can make political speeches if the politics of the day harm their flock.
What is your Muslim Mufti doing going for a political office? Concern yourself with that instead of what our church is doing.
Now be a good boy and mind your own business instead of what we are doing.

I don't have a Mufti...I don't need one. For me all religious leaders are a waste of space and money of couse.

I just don't want them to get involved in politics....because it is not nice to see a burned down church or mosque....You get my point this time?
(EA, 12 April 2012 19:47)

Now I understand what you saying and disagree.

Reasons:

#1: "all religious leaders are a waste of space and money of couse". Incorrect because in many countries they provide a pretty much respected backbone to the politics. Neutal example: Bhutan, Thailand, etc. Their role is not necessary progressive that is true but the coin has two sides.

#2: Under normal circumstances religious leaders being involved in politics SHOULD NOT result in burned down church or mosque (or temple). If that happens it is a sign of barbarism. See destroyed temples / monasteries in Tibet (intentionally staying on the neutral ground).

If you condemn what Chinese Red Guards did in Tibet during "cultural revolution" than you have to condemn 2004 of course. Regardless, is Dalai Lama (or SPC) spearheading the progress or not (probably not, religious institutions are conservative).

#3: At certain times being progressive is "in", at certain times being conservative is "in". We can agree, both Golden Horde and Ottoman Empire did bring a lot of suffering. Both RPC and SPC were crucial to resistance. Without the resistance and crucial role of RPC the Golden Horde would spread all over and probably the last you want would be the territory of Balkans occupied by Mongols. That it did not happen - say thanks to RPC.

What kind of loss of blood and life did happen between 1239 and mid-16th century is up to your imagination.

The role of RPC can be seen on icons which represent a style unknown in Serbia.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/ChurchMilitant.jpg

BTW: the fate of captured Mongol / Kipchak -s was often better than of the captured Christians.

Example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yadegar_Moxammat