Milorad Dodik says the recent commemoration of the 20th anniversary of the beginning of the war in Sarajevo was another attempt to assign guilt only to Serbs.
There is no such thing as "Serb Republic", which is the way you name in your first sentence. It is an entity named "Republika Srpska". Go back to the Dayton agreement (signed by Slobodan Milosevic) text.
Classick, where do I even begin? We can go all day with this, and I notice that the common argument amongst people defending their hatred of Serbs is "They raped, killed, and ate every single Muslim in Bosnia". Even though most of the claims have been proven to be exaggerated. First and foremost, your argument of "excusing the killing of 600 children" can be explained by two words: Collateral Damage. I served as a soldier here in the US, and believe me we have had much more than 600 in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's terrible, but if the mortars could be specifically targeted at only the bad guys, I'm sure the Serbs would have preferred that. The problem in Bosnia was, just like in Afghanistan and Iraq, the bad guys like to hide amongst the women and children. The reason is two fold, they feel protected, and if there is collateral damage they can use it for propaganda purposes. Wake up, the west never gave one shit about a single Bosnian, their goal was an establishment of INTERESTS and destruction of socialism. They had to claim "humanitarian aid" to justify to the American public why their tax dollars were going there.
The claim of "Greater Serbia" is one used by those who fought for separation, and disintegration of Yugoslavia. It's simply not true. The Serbs (Yugoslavs) fought to keep the country together, once they realized they were up against the rest of the world (who wanted to put their hands in the pot), it became a land grab for Bosnia, the territory that never belonged to one of the kingdoms (Serbia or Croatia). I know the idea of "good guys" vs. "bad guys" (Muslims obviously being the good ones) feels so nice a fuzzy to you, it's just not that cut and dry.
Now I just want to cover something really important with you, the truth. It really wasn't hard to rally the Serbs together once the Muslims decided to follow Izetbegovic. 500 years of Muslims oppression, the conversion of countless Christian Serbs and Croats (your true bloodline), didn't help the Muslim cause. The fact that those Serbs who fought in Bosnia had parents and grandparents who were alive at the time that were first hand witnesses to the atrocities committed by the Bosnian SS Handzar division. To your original argument, do you think they would sit back and let it happen again??? Need a link? here ya go! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)
The war in Bosnia was sad on all sides, ALL SIDES! That's the point of the article, but it's just one side that gets all the blame. Atrocities were committed by Serbs, Muslims, and Croats, but the worst atrocity of them all was being manipulated by outsiders to create and inflate the hatred that was the ultimate cause of the atrocities.
Wow", - Look how they all come out in protest. One after another you people always infiltrate the B92 website with systematic distortion of the real truth of the war. Why do you bother', why is it of your concern to always write in favour of the bosnian muslems as the only victims of the war. This is between the former citizens of yugoslavia to resolve, its personal, so let the healing takes its place.
"Classick, while you're right that there were casualties on all sides of the war, you're wrong in stating that the killings by the Bosnian Muslims and Croats was simply a reaction. The protest in Sarajevo was on April 5th, comprised of ALL ethnic groups who didn't support the war. But one month before, the first casualty of the war was Nikola Gardovic who was killed by a Muslim 2 days after the referendum, at his sons wedding."
So, that was a justification to kill 600 Bosnian children in the Siege of Sarajevo?
That's like saying "Serbs placed a bomb at the house of an Albanian, killed the husband, wounded the wife and the kids at the Tri Solitera neighborhood in Northern Mitrovica last weekend. So, the Albanians should send their ROSU and start killing Serbs indiscriminately?"
Someone said it earlier - This crimes of the 1990's were a result of the chauvinist dream of Greater Serbia (I will add - combined with sljivovica and other drugs used by the Serb soldiers). Some of the crimes committed were so horrendous that a human being would not be capable of such things, unless they were under some heavy drug influence.
Yes, but during Otoman rule Serbs changed their culture and their mentality. Today both Serbs and Bosniaks closely resemble Turkish culture. Lucky for Serbia, Turkey's economy's strong and large investments by Turkish businessmen will bring the countries very close to each other once again.
Serbs are victim of their own dream, you know how we say, (dreaming a big dream makes you wake up wet) and Dodik is already dreaming the same dream as Milosevic did.
So, I have a question: Is Serbian nation prepared for another nightmare.
Before the Seconf World War,
Bosnia-Herzegovina had 4 and 1/ million Inhabitants,
and the Serbian part of the Population Was some 50% according to Church Books.
When the Civil War started in the 1990-ies the Population was still only 4 and 1/2 Millions,
and the Serbian part of the Population was only 1/3 of it.
3/4 of an Million Serbs is Missing and,
this 1/3 of a Million Serbs in the 1990-ies,
how many where they in 1945 ?
One Million ?.
Seems as more than 1 Million Serbs where killed in different ways in Bosnia-Herzegovina,
by the Croatian-Muslim Federation during the Ustasja Regime 1941-45.
Whats new B92 again censors truth of the "Srpska" entity aka Serbia's involvement that I wrote and of Dodo's many lies. I said that Bosnia was a Kingdom and other truths with facts and links. Readily available on the world wide net from reputable news organization. That were on the ground in Bosnia and saw the truth and reported it at great peril to the reporters in the 1990s.
The real problem with serbs is they spend too much time seeking approval from the west in that they try and appease them.
The serbs have been painted as evil and lets leave it at that because the more you try and counteract that argument the more the west is convinced they have won.
This is the 21 century and it is only when you spit in their eye that they respect you otherwise all else is seen as buckling down. The west has a major weakness in that it wants to be loved and seen as the world’s saviour - it fears hatred of them.
Once the Serbs learn that all you have to say to the US et al go take a flying leap over the cliff it will run around trying to appease you otherwise it will treat you like a dog.
So who give a rats arse whether they see us as the perpetrators.
Serbs are the victims of the former Ottoman Islamic terrorist Empire,before 14 century all in Bosnia and Herzegovina were Serbian Orthodox,Croats and Bosnians are ex Serbs.Croats have been converted to Catholicism from the Vatican influence,Bosnians to Islam from Turkish invasion and aggression that lasted 500 years.About Kosovo Metohija and Albania there was not one Albanian before 14 century in Kosovo and Metohija and Albania ,Albanians are ex Slavic,Greeks,Macedonians and Romanians and Turks,Turks with Vatican have created the Fake Albanian nation in the Serbian-Greek Land against Orthodox Christians,the Albanian language is Caucasus in today's Azerbaijan was the real Albanian nation until the 11 century some of them had migrated to the Balkans the first Albanian book is written in the year 1555 by an Catholic priest,and then ex Slavic,Greeks,Macedonians and others have adopted by force the Albanian language and Islam that are today the Albanian people,then some of Albanian are returned to Christianity by missionaries,the war of Ottoman empire was against Orthodox lands not Catholics,Georgeos Kastriotis the Serbian-Greek hero was an Serbian-Greek Orthodox,he had a Serbian mother the princess Vojsava Tripalda and a Greek father Ioannis Kastriotis.The history is forged in damage to the Serbs and Greeks,the wife of Georgeos Kastriotis was Androniki Komnini the daughter of famous Greek Arianitos from Athens.
Ethnic groups in Kosovo
Year Albanians Serbs Others
1455 1 % 98 % 1 %
1871 32 % 64 % 4 %
1899 48 % 44 % 8 %
1921 69 % 26 % 5 %
1931 60 % 27 % 13 %
1939 60 % 34 % 5 %
1948 68 % 27 % 5 %
1953 65 % 27 % 8 %
1961 67 % 27 % 6 %
1971 74 % 21 % 5 %
1981 77 % 15 % 8 %
1991 82 % 11 % 7 %
2000 88 % 7 %
Western politics exploits the victimization of Bosnian and Albanian Muslims in the Yugoslav wars in order to legitimize their interventionist policies. This was the first major instance of NATO and UN taking preemptive military aggression against a sovereign nation which did not pose any direct threat to member countries.
The way this attack was sold to the general public here in the US, was that it was necessary in order to prevent a humanitarian crisis. However, this explanation is disingenuous, as at the time there were far more severe humanitarian crises occurring in the worlds which received virtually no attention; some of them directly caused by the very nations who attacked Serbia.
This continuing victimization of one side and assigning blame to the other may serve as a way for the west to pat themselves on the back, it also continues to enforce the ethnic distrust and intolerance between Serbs, Bosnians, Coats and Albanian-Kosovars that fueled the wars. One side may have taken more casualties than the other, however they both decided to go out and kill each other.
Classick, while you're right that there were casualties on all sides of the war, you're wrong in stating that the killings by the Bosnian Muslims and Croats was simply a reaction. The protest in Sarajevo was on April 5th, comprised of ALL ethnic groups who didn't support the war. But one month before, the first casualty of the war was Nikola Gardovic who was killed by a Muslim 2 days after the referendum, at his sons wedding. That single killing, and the Bosniak support of Izetbegovic (who clearly stated his plans in the Islamic Declaration) was what started the war (along with careful manipulation by the west). The snipers were fired when the roughly 100,000 people crowd moved towards the parliament building. The police here in the US do the same thing as a precaution! Take a look at this http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-08/news/31036430_1_sniper-twitter-follower-tripod
At the very begining of the war, the Sarajevo airoport was held by the SERBS, and they gave it to the UN so that the international community can bring in food and other supplies to the civilians. Instead they never helped the civilians like they said they would, but rather used that airport for flying the muslim politicians, and other world diplomats in and out of the city, whose sole purpose was manipulation of the global public. If majority of the people is blind, not all of us are!!!
"I honor each victim, but I must stress that Serb victims are being minimized. Such approach is driving the Serb Republic away from Sarajevo," Dodik added.
Pacifist, why do you ask the opinions of these two? They know little about what happened in BiH during the Balkan wars, they just take the opportunity to spew their hatred of certain ethnic groups here on B92. People like those two turn a blind eye to anything bad that was done in BiH, except for the Serbs, therefore, their opinions have no merit to me, as they are objective. In any case, good for Dodik for letting some of these "self-proclaimed" only victims in the Balkan wars, they certainly were not.
Dodik makes some fair points, but instead of whinging about it, he should get himself a decent PR man and arrange some commemorative events for Serb victims of the war, ensuring there is good coverage globally.
The commemorations in Sarajevo are fully justified, as would Serb commemorations be - neither is wrong. He keeps moaning about the Serbs getting the blame, but doesn't seem to try and make a decent case to the world as to why that opinion is wrong.
Alija Izetbegović's role in the Second World War, Dodik said that the content of the Islamic Declaration, put together by Alija Izetbegović, as well as his "engagement" was well-known.
"It was his father, not mine, who brought Mujahedin to Bosnia," Dodik said of Bakir Izetbegović.
Lenard? Roberto? Your views on this? is it also propaganda from Belgrade?
Alija Izetbegović's role in the Second World War, Dodik said that the content of the Islamic Declaration, put together by Alija Izetbegović, as well as his "engagement" was well-known.
"It was his father, not mine, who brought Mujahedin to Bosnia," Dodik said of Bakir Izetbegović.
Lenard? Roberto? Your views on this? is it also propaganda from Belgrade?
"I honor each victim, but I must stress that Serb victims are being minimized. Such approach is driving the Serb Republic away from Sarajevo," Dodik added.
Serbs are the victims of the former Ottoman Islamic terrorist Empire,before 14 century all in Bosnia and Herzegovina were Serbian Orthodox,Croats and Bosnians are ex Serbs.Croats have been converted to Catholicism from the Vatican influence,Bosnians to Islam from Turkish invasion and aggression that lasted 500 years.About Kosovo Metohija and Albania there was not one Albanian before 14 century in Kosovo and Metohija and Albania ,Albanians are ex Slavic,Greeks,Macedonians and Romanians and Turks,Turks with Vatican have created the Fake Albanian nation in the Serbian-Greek Land against Orthodox Christians,the Albanian language is Caucasus in today's Azerbaijan was the real Albanian nation until the 11 century some of them had migrated to the Balkans the first Albanian book is written in the year 1555 by an Catholic priest,and then ex Slavic,Greeks,Macedonians and others have adopted by force the Albanian language and Islam that are today the Albanian people,then some of Albanian are returned to Christianity by missionaries,the war of Ottoman empire was against Orthodox lands not Catholics,Georgeos Kastriotis the Serbian-Greek hero was an Serbian-Greek Orthodox,he had a Serbian mother the princess Vojsava Tripalda and a Greek father Ioannis Kastriotis.The history is forged in damage to the Serbs and Greeks,the wife of Georgeos Kastriotis was Androniki Komnini the daughter of famous Greek Arianitos from Athens.
Ethnic groups in Kosovo
Year Albanians Serbs Others
1455 1 % 98 % 1 %
1871 32 % 64 % 4 %
1899 48 % 44 % 8 %
1921 69 % 26 % 5 %
1931 60 % 27 % 13 %
1939 60 % 34 % 5 %
1948 68 % 27 % 5 %
1953 65 % 27 % 8 %
1961 67 % 27 % 6 %
1971 74 % 21 % 5 %
1981 77 % 15 % 8 %
1991 82 % 11 % 7 %
2000 88 % 7 %
At the very begining of the war, the Sarajevo airoport was held by the SERBS, and they gave it to the UN so that the international community can bring in food and other supplies to the civilians. Instead they never helped the civilians like they said they would, but rather used that airport for flying the muslim politicians, and other world diplomats in and out of the city, whose sole purpose was manipulation of the global public. If majority of the people is blind, not all of us are!!!
Classick, while you're right that there were casualties on all sides of the war, you're wrong in stating that the killings by the Bosnian Muslims and Croats was simply a reaction. The protest in Sarajevo was on April 5th, comprised of ALL ethnic groups who didn't support the war. But one month before, the first casualty of the war was Nikola Gardovic who was killed by a Muslim 2 days after the referendum, at his sons wedding. That single killing, and the Bosniak support of Izetbegovic (who clearly stated his plans in the Islamic Declaration) was what started the war (along with careful manipulation by the west). The snipers were fired when the roughly 100,000 people crowd moved towards the parliament building. The police here in the US do the same thing as a precaution! Take a look at this http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-08/news/31036430_1_sniper-twitter-follower-tripod
Dodik makes some fair points, but instead of whinging about it, he should get himself a decent PR man and arrange some commemorative events for Serb victims of the war, ensuring there is good coverage globally.
The commemorations in Sarajevo are fully justified, as would Serb commemorations be - neither is wrong. He keeps moaning about the Serbs getting the blame, but doesn't seem to try and make a decent case to the world as to why that opinion is wrong.
Pacifist, why do you ask the opinions of these two? They know little about what happened in BiH during the Balkan wars, they just take the opportunity to spew their hatred of certain ethnic groups here on B92. People like those two turn a blind eye to anything bad that was done in BiH, except for the Serbs, therefore, their opinions have no merit to me, as they are objective. In any case, good for Dodik for letting some of these "self-proclaimed" only victims in the Balkan wars, they certainly were not.
Western politics exploits the victimization of Bosnian and Albanian Muslims in the Yugoslav wars in order to legitimize their interventionist policies. This was the first major instance of NATO and UN taking preemptive military aggression against a sovereign nation which did not pose any direct threat to member countries.
The way this attack was sold to the general public here in the US, was that it was necessary in order to prevent a humanitarian crisis. However, this explanation is disingenuous, as at the time there were far more severe humanitarian crises occurring in the worlds which received virtually no attention; some of them directly caused by the very nations who attacked Serbia.
This continuing victimization of one side and assigning blame to the other may serve as a way for the west to pat themselves on the back, it also continues to enforce the ethnic distrust and intolerance between Serbs, Bosnians, Coats and Albanian-Kosovars that fueled the wars. One side may have taken more casualties than the other, however they both decided to go out and kill each other.
Serbs are victim of their own dream, you know how we say, (dreaming a big dream makes you wake up wet) and Dodik is already dreaming the same dream as Milosevic did.
So, I have a question: Is Serbian nation prepared for another nightmare.
"Classick, while you're right that there were casualties on all sides of the war, you're wrong in stating that the killings by the Bosnian Muslims and Croats was simply a reaction. The protest in Sarajevo was on April 5th, comprised of ALL ethnic groups who didn't support the war. But one month before, the first casualty of the war was Nikola Gardovic who was killed by a Muslim 2 days after the referendum, at his sons wedding."
So, that was a justification to kill 600 Bosnian children in the Siege of Sarajevo?
That's like saying "Serbs placed a bomb at the house of an Albanian, killed the husband, wounded the wife and the kids at the Tri Solitera neighborhood in Northern Mitrovica last weekend. So, the Albanians should send their ROSU and start killing Serbs indiscriminately?"
Someone said it earlier - This crimes of the 1990's were a result of the chauvinist dream of Greater Serbia (I will add - combined with sljivovica and other drugs used by the Serb soldiers). Some of the crimes committed were so horrendous that a human being would not be capable of such things, unless they were under some heavy drug influence.
The real problem with serbs is they spend too much time seeking approval from the west in that they try and appease them.
The serbs have been painted as evil and lets leave it at that because the more you try and counteract that argument the more the west is convinced they have won.
This is the 21 century and it is only when you spit in their eye that they respect you otherwise all else is seen as buckling down. The west has a major weakness in that it wants to be loved and seen as the world’s saviour - it fears hatred of them.
Once the Serbs learn that all you have to say to the US et al go take a flying leap over the cliff it will run around trying to appease you otherwise it will treat you like a dog.
So who give a rats arse whether they see us as the perpetrators.
Before the Seconf World War,
Bosnia-Herzegovina had 4 and 1/ million Inhabitants,
and the Serbian part of the Population Was some 50% according to Church Books.
When the Civil War started in the 1990-ies the Population was still only 4 and 1/2 Millions,
and the Serbian part of the Population was only 1/3 of it.
3/4 of an Million Serbs is Missing and,
this 1/3 of a Million Serbs in the 1990-ies,
how many where they in 1945 ?
One Million ?.
Seems as more than 1 Million Serbs where killed in different ways in Bosnia-Herzegovina,
by the Croatian-Muslim Federation during the Ustasja Regime 1941-45.
Classick, where do I even begin? We can go all day with this, and I notice that the common argument amongst people defending their hatred of Serbs is "They raped, killed, and ate every single Muslim in Bosnia". Even though most of the claims have been proven to be exaggerated. First and foremost, your argument of "excusing the killing of 600 children" can be explained by two words: Collateral Damage. I served as a soldier here in the US, and believe me we have had much more than 600 in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's terrible, but if the mortars could be specifically targeted at only the bad guys, I'm sure the Serbs would have preferred that. The problem in Bosnia was, just like in Afghanistan and Iraq, the bad guys like to hide amongst the women and children. The reason is two fold, they feel protected, and if there is collateral damage they can use it for propaganda purposes. Wake up, the west never gave one shit about a single Bosnian, their goal was an establishment of INTERESTS and destruction of socialism. They had to claim "humanitarian aid" to justify to the American public why their tax dollars were going there.
The claim of "Greater Serbia" is one used by those who fought for separation, and disintegration of Yugoslavia. It's simply not true. The Serbs (Yugoslavs) fought to keep the country together, once they realized they were up against the rest of the world (who wanted to put their hands in the pot), it became a land grab for Bosnia, the territory that never belonged to one of the kingdoms (Serbia or Croatia). I know the idea of "good guys" vs. "bad guys" (Muslims obviously being the good ones) feels so nice a fuzzy to you, it's just not that cut and dry.
Now I just want to cover something really important with you, the truth. It really wasn't hard to rally the Serbs together once the Muslims decided to follow Izetbegovic. 500 years of Muslims oppression, the conversion of countless Christian Serbs and Croats (your true bloodline), didn't help the Muslim cause. The fact that those Serbs who fought in Bosnia had parents and grandparents who were alive at the time that were first hand witnesses to the atrocities committed by the Bosnian SS Handzar division. To your original argument, do you think they would sit back and let it happen again??? Need a link? here ya go! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)
The war in Bosnia was sad on all sides, ALL SIDES! That's the point of the article, but it's just one side that gets all the blame. Atrocities were committed by Serbs, Muslims, and Croats, but the worst atrocity of them all was being manipulated by outsiders to create and inflate the hatred that was the ultimate cause of the atrocities.
Wow", - Look how they all come out in protest. One after another you people always infiltrate the B92 website with systematic distortion of the real truth of the war. Why do you bother', why is it of your concern to always write in favour of the bosnian muslems as the only victims of the war. This is between the former citizens of yugoslavia to resolve, its personal, so let the healing takes its place.
Yes, but during Otoman rule Serbs changed their culture and their mentality. Today both Serbs and Bosniaks closely resemble Turkish culture. Lucky for Serbia, Turkey's economy's strong and large investments by Turkish businessmen will bring the countries very close to each other once again.
Whats new B92 again censors truth of the "Srpska" entity aka Serbia's involvement that I wrote and of Dodo's many lies. I said that Bosnia was a Kingdom and other truths with facts and links. Readily available on the world wide net from reputable news organization. That were on the ground in Bosnia and saw the truth and reported it at great peril to the reporters in the 1990s.
There is no such thing as "Serb Republic", which is the way you name in your first sentence. It is an entity named "Republika Srpska". Go back to the Dayton agreement (signed by Slobodan Milosevic) text.
Serbs are the victims of the former Ottoman Islamic terrorist Empire,before 14 century all in Bosnia and Herzegovina were Serbian Orthodox,Croats and Bosnians are ex Serbs.Croats have been converted to Catholicism from the Vatican influence,Bosnians to Islam from Turkish invasion and aggression that lasted 500 years.About Kosovo Metohija and Albania there was not one Albanian before 14 century in Kosovo and Metohija and Albania ,Albanians are ex Slavic,Greeks,Macedonians and Romanians and Turks,Turks with Vatican have created the Fake Albanian nation in the Serbian-Greek Land against Orthodox Christians,the Albanian language is Caucasus in today's Azerbaijan was the real Albanian nation until the 11 century some of them had migrated to the Balkans the first Albanian book is written in the year 1555 by an Catholic priest,and then ex Slavic,Greeks,Macedonians and others have adopted by force the Albanian language and Islam that are today the Albanian people,then some of Albanian are returned to Christianity by missionaries,the war of Ottoman empire was against Orthodox lands not Catholics,Georgeos Kastriotis the Serbian-Greek hero was an Serbian-Greek Orthodox,he had a Serbian mother the princess Vojsava Tripalda and a Greek father Ioannis Kastriotis.The history is forged in damage to the Serbs and Greeks,the wife of Georgeos Kastriotis was Androniki Komnini the daughter of famous Greek Arianitos from Athens.
Ethnic groups in Kosovo
Year Albanians Serbs Others
1455 1 % 98 % 1 %
1871 32 % 64 % 4 %
1899 48 % 44 % 8 %
1921 69 % 26 % 5 %
1931 60 % 27 % 13 %
1939 60 % 34 % 5 %
1948 68 % 27 % 5 %
1953 65 % 27 % 8 %
1961 67 % 27 % 6 %
1971 74 % 21 % 5 %
1981 77 % 15 % 8 %
1991 82 % 11 % 7 %
2000 88 % 7 %
At the very begining of the war, the Sarajevo airoport was held by the SERBS, and they gave it to the UN so that the international community can bring in food and other supplies to the civilians. Instead they never helped the civilians like they said they would, but rather used that airport for flying the muslim politicians, and other world diplomats in and out of the city, whose sole purpose was manipulation of the global public. If majority of the people is blind, not all of us are!!!
Yes, but during Otoman rule Serbs changed their culture and their mentality. Today both Serbs and Bosniaks closely resemble Turkish culture. Lucky for Serbia, Turkey's economy's strong and large investments by Turkish businessmen will bring the countries very close to each other once again.
Dodik makes some fair points, but instead of whinging about it, he should get himself a decent PR man and arrange some commemorative events for Serb victims of the war, ensuring there is good coverage globally.
The commemorations in Sarajevo are fully justified, as would Serb commemorations be - neither is wrong. He keeps moaning about the Serbs getting the blame, but doesn't seem to try and make a decent case to the world as to why that opinion is wrong.
Classick, while you're right that there were casualties on all sides of the war, you're wrong in stating that the killings by the Bosnian Muslims and Croats was simply a reaction. The protest in Sarajevo was on April 5th, comprised of ALL ethnic groups who didn't support the war. But one month before, the first casualty of the war was Nikola Gardovic who was killed by a Muslim 2 days after the referendum, at his sons wedding. That single killing, and the Bosniak support of Izetbegovic (who clearly stated his plans in the Islamic Declaration) was what started the war (along with careful manipulation by the west). The snipers were fired when the roughly 100,000 people crowd moved towards the parliament building. The police here in the US do the same thing as a precaution! Take a look at this http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-08/news/31036430_1_sniper-twitter-follower-tripod
Serbs are victim of their own dream, you know how we say, (dreaming a big dream makes you wake up wet) and Dodik is already dreaming the same dream as Milosevic did.
So, I have a question: Is Serbian nation prepared for another nightmare.
Alija Izetbegović's role in the Second World War, Dodik said that the content of the Islamic Declaration, put together by Alija Izetbegović, as well as his "engagement" was well-known.
"It was his father, not mine, who brought Mujahedin to Bosnia," Dodik said of Bakir Izetbegović.
Lenard? Roberto? Your views on this? is it also propaganda from Belgrade?
Western politics exploits the victimization of Bosnian and Albanian Muslims in the Yugoslav wars in order to legitimize their interventionist policies. This was the first major instance of NATO and UN taking preemptive military aggression against a sovereign nation which did not pose any direct threat to member countries.
The way this attack was sold to the general public here in the US, was that it was necessary in order to prevent a humanitarian crisis. However, this explanation is disingenuous, as at the time there were far more severe humanitarian crises occurring in the worlds which received virtually no attention; some of them directly caused by the very nations who attacked Serbia.
This continuing victimization of one side and assigning blame to the other may serve as a way for the west to pat themselves on the back, it also continues to enforce the ethnic distrust and intolerance between Serbs, Bosnians, Coats and Albanian-Kosovars that fueled the wars. One side may have taken more casualties than the other, however they both decided to go out and kill each other.
"I honor each victim, but I must stress that Serb victims are being minimized. Such approach is driving the Serb Republic away from Sarajevo," Dodik added.
"Classick, while you're right that there were casualties on all sides of the war, you're wrong in stating that the killings by the Bosnian Muslims and Croats was simply a reaction. The protest in Sarajevo was on April 5th, comprised of ALL ethnic groups who didn't support the war. But one month before, the first casualty of the war was Nikola Gardovic who was killed by a Muslim 2 days after the referendum, at his sons wedding."
So, that was a justification to kill 600 Bosnian children in the Siege of Sarajevo?
That's like saying "Serbs placed a bomb at the house of an Albanian, killed the husband, wounded the wife and the kids at the Tri Solitera neighborhood in Northern Mitrovica last weekend. So, the Albanians should send their ROSU and start killing Serbs indiscriminately?"
Someone said it earlier - This crimes of the 1990's were a result of the chauvinist dream of Greater Serbia (I will add - combined with sljivovica and other drugs used by the Serb soldiers). Some of the crimes committed were so horrendous that a human being would not be capable of such things, unless they were under some heavy drug influence.
Pacifist, why do you ask the opinions of these two? They know little about what happened in BiH during the Balkan wars, they just take the opportunity to spew their hatred of certain ethnic groups here on B92. People like those two turn a blind eye to anything bad that was done in BiH, except for the Serbs, therefore, their opinions have no merit to me, as they are objective. In any case, good for Dodik for letting some of these "self-proclaimed" only victims in the Balkan wars, they certainly were not.
Whats new B92 again censors truth of the "Srpska" entity aka Serbia's involvement that I wrote and of Dodo's many lies. I said that Bosnia was a Kingdom and other truths with facts and links. Readily available on the world wide net from reputable news organization. That were on the ground in Bosnia and saw the truth and reported it at great peril to the reporters in the 1990s.
Before the Seconf World War,
Bosnia-Herzegovina had 4 and 1/ million Inhabitants,
and the Serbian part of the Population Was some 50% according to Church Books.
When the Civil War started in the 1990-ies the Population was still only 4 and 1/2 Millions,
and the Serbian part of the Population was only 1/3 of it.
3/4 of an Million Serbs is Missing and,
this 1/3 of a Million Serbs in the 1990-ies,
how many where they in 1945 ?
One Million ?.
Seems as more than 1 Million Serbs where killed in different ways in Bosnia-Herzegovina,
by the Croatian-Muslim Federation during the Ustasja Regime 1941-45.
Classick, where do I even begin? We can go all day with this, and I notice that the common argument amongst people defending their hatred of Serbs is "They raped, killed, and ate every single Muslim in Bosnia". Even though most of the claims have been proven to be exaggerated. First and foremost, your argument of "excusing the killing of 600 children" can be explained by two words: Collateral Damage. I served as a soldier here in the US, and believe me we have had much more than 600 in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's terrible, but if the mortars could be specifically targeted at only the bad guys, I'm sure the Serbs would have preferred that. The problem in Bosnia was, just like in Afghanistan and Iraq, the bad guys like to hide amongst the women and children. The reason is two fold, they feel protected, and if there is collateral damage they can use it for propaganda purposes. Wake up, the west never gave one shit about a single Bosnian, their goal was an establishment of INTERESTS and destruction of socialism. They had to claim "humanitarian aid" to justify to the American public why their tax dollars were going there.
The claim of "Greater Serbia" is one used by those who fought for separation, and disintegration of Yugoslavia. It's simply not true. The Serbs (Yugoslavs) fought to keep the country together, once they realized they were up against the rest of the world (who wanted to put their hands in the pot), it became a land grab for Bosnia, the territory that never belonged to one of the kingdoms (Serbia or Croatia). I know the idea of "good guys" vs. "bad guys" (Muslims obviously being the good ones) feels so nice a fuzzy to you, it's just not that cut and dry.
Now I just want to cover something really important with you, the truth. It really wasn't hard to rally the Serbs together once the Muslims decided to follow Izetbegovic. 500 years of Muslims oppression, the conversion of countless Christian Serbs and Croats (your true bloodline), didn't help the Muslim cause. The fact that those Serbs who fought in Bosnia had parents and grandparents who were alive at the time that were first hand witnesses to the atrocities committed by the Bosnian SS Handzar division. To your original argument, do you think they would sit back and let it happen again??? Need a link? here ya go! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)
The war in Bosnia was sad on all sides, ALL SIDES! That's the point of the article, but it's just one side that gets all the blame. Atrocities were committed by Serbs, Muslims, and Croats, but the worst atrocity of them all was being manipulated by outsiders to create and inflate the hatred that was the ultimate cause of the atrocities.
Wow", - Look how they all come out in protest. One after another you people always infiltrate the B92 website with systematic distortion of the real truth of the war. Why do you bother', why is it of your concern to always write in favour of the bosnian muslems as the only victims of the war. This is between the former citizens of yugoslavia to resolve, its personal, so let the healing takes its place.
The real problem with serbs is they spend too much time seeking approval from the west in that they try and appease them.
The serbs have been painted as evil and lets leave it at that because the more you try and counteract that argument the more the west is convinced they have won.
This is the 21 century and it is only when you spit in their eye that they respect you otherwise all else is seen as buckling down. The west has a major weakness in that it wants to be loved and seen as the world’s saviour - it fears hatred of them.
Once the Serbs learn that all you have to say to the US et al go take a flying leap over the cliff it will run around trying to appease you otherwise it will treat you like a dog.
So who give a rats arse whether they see us as the perpetrators.
There is no such thing as "Serb Republic", which is the way you name in your first sentence. It is an entity named "Republika Srpska". Go back to the Dayton agreement (signed by Slobodan Milosevic) text.
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