“Russia deploys missiles near Poland, Lithuania”

And with Washington's insistence on protecting Europe from Iran, what a joke, by placing their missile defense system in needy ex-USSR countries, the USA has started another cold war and weapons race of the 21st century. I cannot remember that Iran ever threatened Europe in any way, but the American military hawks will take any opportunity to advance their killing machine around the world. I cannot criticize Russia on this move. They have a right to protect themselves, since the NATO did not want to work in partnership from this supposed threat from Tehran.

I think sj is correct, this is a very good strategic move by Russia, since it will push the US of A to borrow even more money from China to spend on weapons and go even further in debt. The debt is now approaching 16 trillion folks, and growing by 4 billion per day. Keep the party going!
Cheers!!

Good move on Russia’s part as it puts a lot of pressure on Obama even though he did ask Medvedev for some room to move on the missile issue at the conference in South Korea.
Let us call a spade a spade, the US missile system has nothing to do with protecting Europe from Iran or the Martians as they are not a threat to Europe in the slightest. This missile system is two fold – first it is designed for the US to try and contain Russia and then move on to China and the second reason is that the US defence industries want the US taxpayer to pay for a very expensive system so they can make huge profits.
Once again good move Moscow.

Berk, give it a rest. The last thing the world needs is another escalation of weapons and a cold war between the Russians and America. What is it with you war-mongering types that only see solutions in guns? And Berk, why do you speak for America, you are Albanian, you guys have some knock off AK-47, and other dated junk that the that the KLA left behind - oh yes, I forgot the rocks.

Then it is necessary to deploy more troops and equipment around that enclave, targeting all Russian positions with cruise missiles, artillery and listening posts. The Polish army will most certainly deploy more of their tank units with the extraordinary and German-made Leopard II MBT. The Kaliningrad region can be monitored relatively easily. Not a problem. The missile shield will be build, whether the Ruskis like it or not.

The missile shield will be build, whether the Ruskis like it or not.
(Berk., 7 April 2012 14:04)

I will transmit this information to Putin.

And Berk, why do you speak for America, you are Albanian, you guys have some knock off AK-47, and other dated junk that the that the KLA left behind - oh yes, I forgot the rocks. - It's not yada, yada, but the truth. What do Albanians have to contribute to the safety of the Balkans, and with what force? All you do day in and day out is glorify the military might of the USA. I think everyone in the world is aware of its weapons might. Trying to leech onto them will not make Pristina's Albanians look any mightier, believe me.

Then it is necessary to deploy more troops and equipment around that enclave, targeting all Russian positions with cruise missiles, artillery and listening posts. The Polish army will most certainly deploy more of their tank units with the extraordinary and German-made Leopard II MBT. The Kaliningrad region can be monitored relatively easily. Not a problem. The missile shield will be build, whether the Ruskis like it or not.
(Berk., 7 April 2012 14:04)

You must be a senior instructor at West Point because its only military planning like what you have set out here that has led the US victories in Iraq and Afghanistan and more recent the complete withdrawal of the US form the South China Sea and relocated some of its forces to Darwin Australia.
Just for your information, the Leopard tanks are useless against nuclear missiles. But how do you monitor Kalingrad? I am curious to know.

And Berk, why do you speak for America, you are Albanian, you guys have some knock off AK-47, and other dated junk that the that the KLA left behind - oh yes, I forgot the rocks.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 14:27)

Sarcasm! Yada yada yada!

"I think sj is correct, this is a very good strategic move by Russia, since it will push the US of A to borrow even more money from China to spend on weapons and go even further in debt. The debt is now approaching 16 trillion folks, and growing by 4 billion per day. Keep the party going!
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 7 April 2012 15:23)"

Yeah, the irony. Reagan successfully bankrupted the soviets with the arms race, now it seems that the russkies are returning the favour. Who would have imagined? Perhaps Obama is being pragmatic and realizes that the nato initiative is not sustainable. Funny to see the CONS get mad at him in the US for not being enough of a hawk. Warmongers those yanks are.

And with Washington's insistence on protecting Europe from Iran, what a joke, by placing their missile defense system in needy ex-USSR countries, the USA has started another cold war and weapons race of the 21st century. I cannot remember that Iran ever threatened Europe in any way, but the American military hawks will take any opportunity to advance their killing machine around the world. I cannot criticize Russia on this move. They have a right to protect themselves, since the NATO did not want to work in partnership from this supposed threat from Tehran.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 13:37)

Mr or Ms. ecoman do you understand that ex USSR countries you are talking are nato members now? So as per NATO treaty US wants to protect them from Iran and Russia whats wrong with that. Look poland and Baltic countries are begging USA to even put Nuklear bombs publicly in their territory!!! The reason is they have been under Russian boot before (and this is why pols say where a russian bood steps gras does not grow) and just the thought of returning sends chills down their spine, many peopel are still alive who lived under Russian thumb till 1990.

Also what Russia did to Georgia, they see Putin is hard core and they want to be protected. As per Iran no one knows what they will do in no way I think USA should get involved in fighting Iran but I wish they put some system in Israel as well like this it would eliminate the threat so we do not go to another war we can not afford.

Let Russia start another arms race this is ridiculous as if you think for a minute that Russia is not updating their arsenal you must be really naive, they will do it regardless if US puts shield or not.

Have you ever been in Russia as I think it is very important to understand Russian rule.

This missile "shield" is in no way a strictly defensive weapon. It is also a weapon that allows an aggressor to launch their own missiles with impunity. They can launch their missiles knowing that a return strike will be deflected away by this "shield". It is a myth that these anti-missile missile systems are anything but a tactical resource and have anything to do with civilian protection. Look at how badly the "Iron Dome" currently deployed in Israel is working. If those were ICBMs instead of Grads, it would all be over.

The missile shield is a purely defensive weapon. The only one who must fear it is the one who plans to aggressively attack NATO and his Western allies. It speaks volumes that Russia gets angry about it. Moreover, it confirms that Russia is the enemy, otherwise they would not behave like that. The deployment of offensive weapons in the Kaliningrad region is another proof. But, it will be countered with offensive weapons of NATO.
(Berk., 7 April 2012 17:54)


So if the Russians were to go and set up missile sites like this all around America you would have no problem? After all it would be in defence of South America. They would even place those sites all around albania to protect you from the non-existent threat of Iran with its 20% enriched uranium (86% is deemed the smallest percentile for enriched uranium to be used in weapons though it is conceded that anything below 90% will in most likely circumstances be too weak to inflict any large scale damage)

I think sj is correct, this is a very good strategic move by Russia, since it will push the US of A to borrow even more money from China to spend on weapons and go even further in debt. The debt is now approaching 16 trillion folks, and growing by 4 billion per day. Keep the party going!
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 7 April 2012 15:23
You do realize that a third world war would cancel all debts don't you? So escalate it to the point that may happen, I guess that is one way to get Serbia off the fence.

This is NOT good for Serbia.

The missile shield is a purely defensive weapon. The only one who must fear it is the one who plans to aggressively attack NATO and his Western allies. It speaks volumes that Russia gets angry about it. Moreover, it confirms that Russia is the enemy, otherwise they would not behave like that. The deployment of offensive weapons in the Kaliningrad region is another proof. But, it will be countered with offensive weapons of NATO.

"... the complete withdrawal of the US form the South China Sea and relocated some of its forces to Darwin Australia.

(sj, 7 April 2012 14:27) "

It's the US Navy that maintains a presence in the South China Sea, and it has not "withdrawn." A couple of thousand Marines will be stationed in Australia on a rotating basis, but they're new additions, coming from the US.

The missile shield is a purely defensive weapon. The only one who must fear it is the one who plans to aggressively attack NATO and his Western allies. It speaks volumes that Russia gets angry about it. Moreover, it confirms that Russia is the enemy, otherwise they would not behave like that. The deployment of offensive weapons in the Kaliningrad region is another proof. But, it will be countered with offensive weapons of NATO.
(Jerk., 7 April 2012 17:54)

NATO days are numbered, so it will never be possibility for Kosovo to join.

Russia should just deploy its missiles in Cuba and say north pole lol then we can get this second cold war going the right way :)

"... the complete withdrawal of the US form the South China Sea and relocated some of its forces to Darwin Australia.

(sj, 7 April 2012 14:27) "
It's the US Navy that maintains a presence in the South China Sea, and it has not "withdrawn." A couple of thousand Marines will be stationed in Australia on a rotating basis, but they're new additions, coming from the US.
(Amer, 7 April 2012 17:45)
Hey, I live in the region and know what is what. The US is negotiating with the Australian Government to use the Cocos Islands as a base. The Us is not expanding but being pushed out. This is the usual BS propaganda to pacify their people – you know “we are expanding our forces to meet any new threats that might arise in the region and we are working closely with our partners in securing the straits of Malacca”. The Chinese have already told the Australians to be very careful and if you read up on politics there a little pain in the arse called Kevin Rudd lost a leadership challenge to Julia Gillard and I’ll give you one guess which country had the greater sway after it told the locals that Kevin was anti China. This “new” deployment is actually a pea and thimble trick. When you rotate troops you reduce the numbers being stationed and you relocated them to a new area so it will not be noticed – that is how its done.
You may recall the Cuban missile crises in 1962. It was portrayed as a great victory for the west when in fact it was Khrushchev out maneuvering John Kennedy . You see it was all about a missile system along the Turkish border with Russia the US had installed, so the Russians started something similar in Cuba so the US agreed to remove theirs quietly and sold its people the BS we all hear and enjoy today.

Its escalating Croatia just moved its missiles also its one and only SS 300 plus other ones as you can see in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwkSue24XTA&feature=fvwrel Don't worry U.S. Croatia has your back the Italians said mama just called them in for a good pasta diner so count them out . You know are weapons are good like the Croatian made gun Springfield armoury XD Heavy Duty extreme won twice as the gun of the year in the U.S. Ok ok I mite be a tad overboard just watched a good western should of gone sleep hours ago.

Then it is necessary to deploy more troops and equipment around that enclave, targeting all Russian positions with cruise missiles, artillery and listening posts. The Polish army will most certainly deploy more of their tank units with the extraordinary and German-made Leopard II MBT. The Kaliningrad region can be monitored relatively easily. Not a problem. The missile shield will be build, whether the Ruskis like it or not.

And with Washington's insistence on protecting Europe from Iran, what a joke, by placing their missile defense system in needy ex-USSR countries, the USA has started another cold war and weapons race of the 21st century. I cannot remember that Iran ever threatened Europe in any way, but the American military hawks will take any opportunity to advance their killing machine around the world. I cannot criticize Russia on this move. They have a right to protect themselves, since the NATO did not want to work in partnership from this supposed threat from Tehran.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 13:37)

Mr or Ms. ecoman do you understand that ex USSR countries you are talking are nato members now? So as per NATO treaty US wants to protect them from Iran and Russia whats wrong with that. Look poland and Baltic countries are begging USA to even put Nuklear bombs publicly in their territory!!! The reason is they have been under Russian boot before (and this is why pols say where a russian bood steps gras does not grow) and just the thought of returning sends chills down their spine, many peopel are still alive who lived under Russian thumb till 1990.

Also what Russia did to Georgia, they see Putin is hard core and they want to be protected. As per Iran no one knows what they will do in no way I think USA should get involved in fighting Iran but I wish they put some system in Israel as well like this it would eliminate the threat so we do not go to another war we can not afford.

Let Russia start another arms race this is ridiculous as if you think for a minute that Russia is not updating their arsenal you must be really naive, they will do it regardless if US puts shield or not.

Have you ever been in Russia as I think it is very important to understand Russian rule.

The missile shield is a purely defensive weapon. The only one who must fear it is the one who plans to aggressively attack NATO and his Western allies. It speaks volumes that Russia gets angry about it. Moreover, it confirms that Russia is the enemy, otherwise they would not behave like that. The deployment of offensive weapons in the Kaliningrad region is another proof. But, it will be countered with offensive weapons of NATO.

And with Washington's insistence on protecting Europe from Iran, what a joke, by placing their missile defense system in needy ex-USSR countries, the USA has started another cold war and weapons race of the 21st century. I cannot remember that Iran ever threatened Europe in any way, but the American military hawks will take any opportunity to advance their killing machine around the world. I cannot criticize Russia on this move. They have a right to protect themselves, since the NATO did not want to work in partnership from this supposed threat from Tehran.

The missile shield will be build, whether the Ruskis like it or not.
(Berk., 7 April 2012 14:04)

I will transmit this information to Putin.

And Berk, why do you speak for America, you are Albanian, you guys have some knock off AK-47, and other dated junk that the that the KLA left behind - oh yes, I forgot the rocks.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 14:27)

Sarcasm! Yada yada yada!

Then it is necessary to deploy more troops and equipment around that enclave, targeting all Russian positions with cruise missiles, artillery and listening posts. The Polish army will most certainly deploy more of their tank units with the extraordinary and German-made Leopard II MBT. The Kaliningrad region can be monitored relatively easily. Not a problem. The missile shield will be build, whether the Ruskis like it or not.
(Berk., 7 April 2012 14:04)

You must be a senior instructor at West Point because its only military planning like what you have set out here that has led the US victories in Iraq and Afghanistan and more recent the complete withdrawal of the US form the South China Sea and relocated some of its forces to Darwin Australia.
Just for your information, the Leopard tanks are useless against nuclear missiles. But how do you monitor Kalingrad? I am curious to know.

Berk, give it a rest. The last thing the world needs is another escalation of weapons and a cold war between the Russians and America. What is it with you war-mongering types that only see solutions in guns? And Berk, why do you speak for America, you are Albanian, you guys have some knock off AK-47, and other dated junk that the that the KLA left behind - oh yes, I forgot the rocks.

I think sj is correct, this is a very good strategic move by Russia, since it will push the US of A to borrow even more money from China to spend on weapons and go even further in debt. The debt is now approaching 16 trillion folks, and growing by 4 billion per day. Keep the party going!
Cheers!!

I think sj is correct, this is a very good strategic move by Russia, since it will push the US of A to borrow even more money from China to spend on weapons and go even further in debt. The debt is now approaching 16 trillion folks, and growing by 4 billion per day. Keep the party going!
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 7 April 2012 15:23
You do realize that a third world war would cancel all debts don't you? So escalate it to the point that may happen, I guess that is one way to get Serbia off the fence.

This is NOT good for Serbia.

"... the complete withdrawal of the US form the South China Sea and relocated some of its forces to Darwin Australia.

(sj, 7 April 2012 14:27) "

It's the US Navy that maintains a presence in the South China Sea, and it has not "withdrawn." A couple of thousand Marines will be stationed in Australia on a rotating basis, but they're new additions, coming from the US.

Good move on Russia’s part as it puts a lot of pressure on Obama even though he did ask Medvedev for some room to move on the missile issue at the conference in South Korea.
Let us call a spade a spade, the US missile system has nothing to do with protecting Europe from Iran or the Martians as they are not a threat to Europe in the slightest. This missile system is two fold – first it is designed for the US to try and contain Russia and then move on to China and the second reason is that the US defence industries want the US taxpayer to pay for a very expensive system so they can make huge profits.
Once again good move Moscow.

And Berk, why do you speak for America, you are Albanian, you guys have some knock off AK-47, and other dated junk that the that the KLA left behind - oh yes, I forgot the rocks. - It's not yada, yada, but the truth. What do Albanians have to contribute to the safety of the Balkans, and with what force? All you do day in and day out is glorify the military might of the USA. I think everyone in the world is aware of its weapons might. Trying to leech onto them will not make Pristina's Albanians look any mightier, believe me.

Its escalating Croatia just moved its missiles also its one and only SS 300 plus other ones as you can see in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwkSue24XTA&feature=fvwrel Don't worry U.S. Croatia has your back the Italians said mama just called them in for a good pasta diner so count them out . You know are weapons are good like the Croatian made gun Springfield armoury XD Heavy Duty extreme won twice as the gun of the year in the U.S. Ok ok I mite be a tad overboard just watched a good western should of gone sleep hours ago.

Russia should just deploy its missiles in Cuba and say north pole lol then we can get this second cold war going the right way :)

The missile shield is a purely defensive weapon. The only one who must fear it is the one who plans to aggressively attack NATO and his Western allies. It speaks volumes that Russia gets angry about it. Moreover, it confirms that Russia is the enemy, otherwise they would not behave like that. The deployment of offensive weapons in the Kaliningrad region is another proof. But, it will be countered with offensive weapons of NATO.
(Jerk., 7 April 2012 17:54)

NATO days are numbered, so it will never be possibility for Kosovo to join.

The missile shield is a purely defensive weapon. The only one who must fear it is the one who plans to aggressively attack NATO and his Western allies. It speaks volumes that Russia gets angry about it. Moreover, it confirms that Russia is the enemy, otherwise they would not behave like that. The deployment of offensive weapons in the Kaliningrad region is another proof. But, it will be countered with offensive weapons of NATO.
(Berk., 7 April 2012 17:54)


So if the Russians were to go and set up missile sites like this all around America you would have no problem? After all it would be in defence of South America. They would even place those sites all around albania to protect you from the non-existent threat of Iran with its 20% enriched uranium (86% is deemed the smallest percentile for enriched uranium to be used in weapons though it is conceded that anything below 90% will in most likely circumstances be too weak to inflict any large scale damage)

"I think sj is correct, this is a very good strategic move by Russia, since it will push the US of A to borrow even more money from China to spend on weapons and go even further in debt. The debt is now approaching 16 trillion folks, and growing by 4 billion per day. Keep the party going!
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 7 April 2012 15:23)"

Yeah, the irony. Reagan successfully bankrupted the soviets with the arms race, now it seems that the russkies are returning the favour. Who would have imagined? Perhaps Obama is being pragmatic and realizes that the nato initiative is not sustainable. Funny to see the CONS get mad at him in the US for not being enough of a hawk. Warmongers those yanks are.

"... the complete withdrawal of the US form the South China Sea and relocated some of its forces to Darwin Australia.

(sj, 7 April 2012 14:27) "
It's the US Navy that maintains a presence in the South China Sea, and it has not "withdrawn." A couple of thousand Marines will be stationed in Australia on a rotating basis, but they're new additions, coming from the US.
(Amer, 7 April 2012 17:45)
Hey, I live in the region and know what is what. The US is negotiating with the Australian Government to use the Cocos Islands as a base. The Us is not expanding but being pushed out. This is the usual BS propaganda to pacify their people – you know “we are expanding our forces to meet any new threats that might arise in the region and we are working closely with our partners in securing the straits of Malacca”. The Chinese have already told the Australians to be very careful and if you read up on politics there a little pain in the arse called Kevin Rudd lost a leadership challenge to Julia Gillard and I’ll give you one guess which country had the greater sway after it told the locals that Kevin was anti China. This “new” deployment is actually a pea and thimble trick. When you rotate troops you reduce the numbers being stationed and you relocated them to a new area so it will not be noticed – that is how its done.
You may recall the Cuban missile crises in 1962. It was portrayed as a great victory for the west when in fact it was Khrushchev out maneuvering John Kennedy . You see it was all about a missile system along the Turkish border with Russia the US had installed, so the Russians started something similar in Cuba so the US agreed to remove theirs quietly and sold its people the BS we all hear and enjoy today.

This missile "shield" is in no way a strictly defensive weapon. It is also a weapon that allows an aggressor to launch their own missiles with impunity. They can launch their missiles knowing that a return strike will be deflected away by this "shield". It is a myth that these anti-missile missile systems are anything but a tactical resource and have anything to do with civilian protection. Look at how badly the "Iron Dome" currently deployed in Israel is working. If those were ICBMs instead of Grads, it would all be over.