“Kosovo would face isolation without agreements"

What an amazing change in tone from Tahini. The Big Boys in the EU must have told her and her Crime Minister to tone it down, because they were doing more harm to the future welfare of KiM, than good. Not to mention being an embarrassment to their EU backers.

"She pointed out that the Priština authorities were working hard in order to fully implement the agreements that have been reached so far."

Yes, and some Kosovo Albanians on the streets of Pristina were working even 'hard as rock' on the people who want to talk about the implementation of the agreement.

Once asks why has there been a 360 degree change in attitude? It’s bleeding obvious as the nose on a persons face and I have been stating it many times.
Firstly, the world is changing with power shifting away from where it rested for the last 400 years or so and consequently the first change in attitude towards Serbia.
Secondly, the EU has 1.2 million mouths to feed and there is an 80 to 85 per cent unemployment rate in Kosovo and after 13 years nothing has changed. It is now no longer a big secret that the EU has entered into another recession, as if they had got out of the last one, but that is for another time. The US is no longer a dependable partner and cannot share its burden of the Kosovo problem and with the EU in recession the situation in the US will really start to hot up and not for the better, as official figures today show another slow down and job losses for March.
Thirdly where are these Albanians going to find work? Yes it’s Serbia again.
What has finally sunk into those chronic morons in Brussels is that the one answer is REINTEGRATION of Kosovo with Serbia. You think I am joking? This is no joke as it’s a reality. It’s a slow reintegration process – otherwise Kosovo cannot exist by itself. That is what we are witnessing here.

Hahaha, good one, Oker, Albanians trying in Pristina to implement agreements with Serbia by throwing rocks. BTW, where do these guys get rocks in a city? I walk around Belgrade and Novi Sad, and I do not see rocks sitting on the ground. Do they bring them with them from the villages? And why not tomatoes, they are lighter and better for the ecology?

But EA, Albania does not want you guys back. Your relatives ran from Hoxha during Tito's time, and now you want to unite with the motherland again? You can't have it all, can you? Besides, Albania itself is dirt poor, what makes you think it can take on another 1.5 million needy mouths to feed? Get real!

The EU, and your "Big Friend America", will NEVER allow Kosovo Albanians to join their mother ship, Albania. The day you guys, Kosovo Albanci, declared your UDI in KiM, you threw away your opportunity to join your homeland, Albania. You can't have it all, sorry. Do you guys actually think that the EU would allow you to join Kosovo with Albania? If you do, you are dumber than I thought.

Loser weasel words

"Albania is there when it comes to integration....It is more realistic!"
(EA, 7 April 2012 15:21)

EA, you don´t know what you´re talking about. if only the K-albanian extremists made that mistake, I would be happy! ...because, THAT would be a major reason to take stronger and more direct measures against the greater albanian illusion amongst you dreamers.

by the way, why is it that I always have a donkey-sound in mind, when I read your nickname? =)

no, your wishfull thinking is leading nowhere, you can only hope that your "friends" do not let you down. but, to be serious, what the heck should the Albanians make different from all those other nations that have been let down by their american "friends" in the past?

I doubt that you really have thought about that, down there in your little room in front of an old computer-screen somewhere in southern Serbia.

don´t you worry, everything will be fine. except for those Albanians who have comitted crimes against their serb or albanian neighbours. and believe me, those who did so, will be identified! because there are also a lot of Albanians out there who would be pragmatic if the situation on the ground changes... and that means that YOU should be cautious, you cannot know who will be the one that will be denouncing you, once the time has come...

and that is only a question of time, my dear k-albanian friend...

"Kosovo would have faced a total international isolation if it had not accepted agreements with Belgrade, Priština team chief Edita Tahiri has stated."

Wow, someone finally sees things realistically in Pristina. Now Kosovo can stay partially isolated, or participate as Kosovo*.

"Besides, Albania itself is dirt poor, what makes you think it can take on another 1.5 million needy mouths to feed? Get real!"
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 19:10)

The more serious problem is that the corrupt Albanian politicians don't want some competition with the even more criminal and corrupt Kosovo politicians.

It’s a slow reintegration process – otherwise Kosovo cannot exist by itself. That is what we are witnessing here.
(sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)

Albania is there when it comes to integration....It is more realistic!

Ah there are five EU members missing to recognise Kosovo.
I am wondering what the price will be to bribe the five remaining states ?
Maybe these states are the only ones who know what albanians are all about.

@ ecoman I love reading your comments poz. iz cikago

"Thirdly where are these Albanians going to find work? Yes it’s Serbia again."
(sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)

Yes, sure, in Serbia, which itself has an unemployment rate of about 20% (on a similar level than the poorest EU countries)

"Secondly, the EU has 1.2 million mouths to feed and there is an 80 to 85 per cent unemployment rate "

where on earth have you read that Kosova has 85% unemployment rate? serioulsy get off the Orthodox Gazette and read ACTUAL news

you must have some reason or economic journal to have come up with such a figure. which one is it? go ahead, give me the sources you've been reading. spread your wisdom with those who seek it. where on io have you read that Kosova's unemployment rate is 85%? where? am i to take it, that Serbia's offical numbers regardings its unemplyed is also wrong? or is that to be trusted? latest published figures in ksovo asset a 40/45% unemployment, still high, but half of what you've written. source? the CIA fact book. now, which are your sources? let me educate myself.
(Nikolle, 8 April 2012 13:56)
The CIA fact book. Hello it’s the CIA – it’s their business to tell you CRAP. Spain confesses to 22% overall unemployment with levels reaching 60% for people between 16 and 30 and this is Spain and you think Kosovo has only 40/45%.
I work for an organization that does its own research into the financial status and employment levels in countries. It never did that prior to 2007, but since the GFC it no longer trusts western rating agencies nor information released by western governments as most of it is useless except for propaganda purposes. That is why I know.
The US official unemployment is 8.5%; now if you believe that one then you need mental help. Particularly considering that for the last 12 months alone the levels of unemployment has risen and not fallen but new criteria has been set so that certain categories do not receive social payments or these benefits are delayed. It called a cover up. You should get a job in government – it’s a real eye opener.
Governments lie to cover up a bad situation – they ALL DO IT. Serbia’s true unemployment is anywhere between 25 and 30% just like all the other Eastern European countries, but some westerns have caught up such as Ireland which has 27%.
But don’t believe me just sit down and ask yourself the question, what industry has relocated to Kosovo. You list all the industry that has opened up in Kosovo since 1999 to take up the unemployment that exists there. List them all please. Where is the work? Farms? No as that industry is very small so where then?
Is Ford there or perhaps GM or maybe Campbells foods or is Kosovo making parts for the Boeing factory?? What does it produce to earn income to sustain a society? When you answer this question then you will be honest with yourself.

is that what the EU is demanding of Serbia? that Albanians be allowed to work there? source please. i want to read from an actual source, reliable one. not sj.com. when you write garbage like this, without anything to back it up (i mean you even refute that Croatia's economy is bigger than Serbia's, very easy to verify) then i have reason to doubt the state of your mental health
(Nikolle, 8 April 2012 13:59)
That message came from Robert Cooper, the EU facilitator when he was in Belgrade a couple of days ago. He said that free movement must be given to the Albanians to not just cross Serbia proper but also to seek work there in the future. That is what the EU is demanding of Serbia. He gave a short press statement which was aired on RTS as well as other European news bulletins – I saw the RTS press clip and could clearly understand what was said as Cooper was speaking in English.
For the f…… 1000th time you stupid people of course Croatia’s economy is bigger than Serbia’s at the moment – yes, yes, yes. Serbia’s economy was destroyed by the west but they prop UP CROATIA, SLOVENIA and so on. In other words the EU gives money to the Croatian and Slovene Governments otherwise they would be poorer than Albania. Much like Montenegro - they all live mainly from tourism and since the GFC tourism worldwide has declined in big numbers and tourism only last 3 to four months of the year so where do you think these people get money to maintain the standard of living?
Now as B92 is a SERBIAN-based news organization and you don’t like reading these comment then p… o.. to your Albanian media. No one is holding a gun to your head to read my comments. But I don’t lie nor do I have to either because what disturbs people like you is there is a ringing of truth in my statements which you are not getting from your official sources.

sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)
All Albanians can take a sigh of relief now. Once you have predicted reintegration, everyone and I mean EVERYONE knows it is as likely to happen as Thaci becoming PM of Serbia.
I mean all the elements are there the EU says no local elections, Serbia says no local elections in Kosovo. EP vote resolution that all EU states should recognize Kosovo, EP says Serbia has to develop better relations with Kosovo. SErbia begs UNMIK to help with local elections in Kosovo, UNMIK says sorry we can't.
REintegration is right around the corner.
Elevator doesn't quite reach the top does it?

Get real!
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 19:10)

you should worry about serbia's further disintergration (Sandzak,Vojvodina,Preshevo etc.) you are powerless over the possibility of an Albanian union and it is none of your concern. Get real!

"Thirdly where are these Albanians going to find work? Yes it’s Serbia again."
(sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)

Yes, sure, in Serbia, which itself has an unemployment rate of about 20% (on a similar level than the poorest EU countries)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 April 2012 18:12)

Perhaps, but compared to Kosovo's 50%, Central Serbia is heaven

Problems within Serbia itself are far greater than Kosova's issues. Vojvodina has suggested or even requested they want their own police. That's a strong message for a possible future Independence. Secondly, there are no borders between Albania and Kosova. Uniting is the last step, everything else has already taken place. Serbs are unaware of this because they are still sleeping. If Kosova has to join a country to Survive, you better bet your asses it will be Albania for many reasons. Were one, we always wanted to be united. If Serbs complain about Kosova not being able to be independent that will only push Kosova towards Albania. 85% of unemployment? Haha, last time I saw a documentary about Serbia it wasn't like I was reading about Luxembourg lol. It doesn't take much to keep Serbia shut down. Preseva will join Kosova. No one ever thought some 90 Countries would recognize Kosova either. Guess what? They did. Serbs have been day-dreaming and never moved on from 1999. They are stuck there, and the chances are they will be there until they recognize Kosova.
PEACE

mrs tahiri is just forgetting one thing:kosovo is already for most of it population in an isolation state and has nothing to lose!So her need to surrender is only for her private trips(she will not be then invited free to travel!)...
To ecoman:you remind me a time when all around and especially in the media we read we will never allow the desintegration of yougoslavia!
and guess what happen?
So don't worry:albanians will unite one day,like it or not.It is just a question of time.You had you chance to kill us,you did not succed,so know try to learn with a comming great albania!
and please don't tell me your politicans do not want such an issue:we already know that,because just like this lady they are not free,but believe me that our people is ready for this union which is in our minds vivant as never in our History !
so just go on with your denial and your antialbanian comments:you always have done more for albanian nationalism than the more natonalist of us!just go on!

Yes, sure, in Serbia, which itself has an unemployment rate of about 20% (on a similar level than the poorest EU countries)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 April 2012 18:12)
Last week Robert Cooper arrived in Belgrade and for the first time revealed what the EU expects from Serbia and it is:
Free movement of the Albanians in Kosovo
Ability to seek work in Serbia, especially since industry is opening up there at a fast rate and especially since Serbia will start to feel the effects of a labour shortage by 2014. These are long-term planning issues mot just for today or tomorrow.
The ability for the Albanians to live in Serbia proper while they work there etc. – now this one is a real hoot, these Albanians claim to have suffered at the hands of the Serbs but are now more than happy to either work for them or work alongside them after all that has happened.
Serbia officially has 20% but it is anywhere between 25% and 30% just like all the eastern bloc countries including places like Poland, Chezcks, Hungary etc. In fact Spain has 22%, Portugal has 27%, Ireland has 27% and the best is the US which has only 8.5% when in fact it’s anywhere between 25 to 32%.
Like it or not, but Tahiri is being honest for a moment – the EU has run out of money and it needs to have Kosovo help itself rather than totally rely on EU handouts. So how do you think this is going to happen, well Cooper and Tahiri have given you an insight into the future, but if you see this as unrealistic then tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? And please no nonsense about Kosovo being rich with resources – that is pure BS. What little resource it does have will be exploited by the international corporations and your people will get nothing – that’s how they work.
It’s a slow reintegration process – otherwise Kosovo cannot exist by itself. That is what we are witnessing here.
(sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)

Albania is there when it comes to integration....It is more realistic!
(EA, 7 April 2012 15:21)
The EU will burn every Albania alive before they allow a union of Kosovo and Albania. The EU does not want a large Islamic nation in the midst. On top of that Albania cannot integrate Kosovo as it would collapse financially. You don’t think so, read up on the cost of integrating eastern Germany and Albania does not have a thousandth of Germany’s wealth.
All Albanians can take a sigh of relief now. Once you have predicted reintegration, everyone and I mean EVERYONE knows it is as likely to happen as Thaci becoming PM of Serbia.
I mean all the elements are there the EU says no local elections, Serbia says no local elections in Kosovo. EP vote resolution that all EU states should recognize Kosovo, EP says Serbia has to develop better relations with Kosovo. SErbia begs UNMIK to help with local elections in Kosovo, UNMIK says sorry we can't.
REintegration is right around the corner.
Elevator doesn't quite reach the top does it?
(What a joke, 7 April 2012 16:47)
What appears on the surface and what goes on behind closed doors are two different things, and you will learn that soon enough. Now Serbia held how many elections in Kosovo and there were no problems????? All of a sudden its 1224 – that is Tadic appealing to his western masters that is all. What has changed in Kosovo for the last 13 years???? NOTHING at ALL. What do you think is going to happen now that the EU is officially in recession? Unrest throughout Europe and in Kosovo. So why this elaborate game? Because these Brussels morons don’t know any other way. You notice that the Serbs do what they like where even NATO cannot touch them? What would be the effects of your lot announcing what I have just posted? There would be riots in the streets asking the question “why have we gone through all of this hardship only to be led to the same destination in the end? The answer is US politics.
But as you see it different, tell me how Kosovo is going to survive on its own with no industry, no resources (water, energy or minerals to speak off). Once you honestly answer this to yourself the rest becomes very clear.
"Secondly, the EU has 1.2 million mouths to feed and there is an 80 to 85 per cent unemployment rate "

where on earth have you read that Kosova has 85% unemployment rate? seriously get off the Orthodox Gazette and read ACTUAL news
(Nikolle, 7 April 2012 21:46)
That’s right there is only 12% unemployment as I can see the enormous amount of industry working there and manufacturing and exporting Albanian BS which is much sought after worldwide. Get real the only people employed are working for the government which is being funded by the EU. As I said the US claims it has 8.5% unemployment – now that is also a good laugh. Hey I could be wrong but do tell is Microsoft or Ford or GM or Boeing in Kosovo? Or perhaps in the last 13 years your lot has somehow circumvented the usual path of becoming a consumer society and are now even better that the EU or US? In your dreams only.

is that what the EU is demanding of Serbia? that Albanians be allowed to work there? source please. i want to read from an actual source, reliable one. not sj.com. when you write garbage like this, without anything to back it up (i mean you even refute that Croatia's economy is bigger than Serbia's, very easy to verify) then i have reason to doubt the state of your mental health
(Nikolle, 8 April 2012 13:59)
Nikolle, don't fall into his trap. He has a vivid imagination, he has no sources and if he mentions sources he cannot reveal them due to the secrecy. If you show him something that proves he is wrong, it was printed for the west to fool them.

Well said SJ

"Secondly, the EU has 1.2 million mouths to feed and there is an 80 to 85 per cent unemployment rate "

where on earth have you read that Kosova has 85% unemployment rate? serioulsy get off the Orthodox Gazette and read ACTUAL news
(Nikolle, 7 April 2012 21:46)

What is your understanding as to what the unemployment rate is in Kosova? That would be excluding the organ harvesters as I don't think that's a bonafide profession,although in Albania maybe it is. Is it?
BTW, where can I find that ACTUAL news you make mention of? Maybe roberto?

sj

you must have some reason or economic journal to have come up with such a figure. which one is it? go ahead, give me the sources you've been reading. spread your wisdom with those who seek it. where on io have you read that Kosova's unemployment rate is 85%? where? am i to take it, that Serbia's offical numbers regardings its unemplyed is also wrong? or is that to be trusted? latest published figures in ksovo asset a 40/45% unemployment, still high, but half of what you've written. source? the CIA fact book. now, which are your sources? let me educate myself.

sj

is that what the EU is demanding of Serbia? that Albanians be allowed to work there? source please. i want to read from an actual source, reliable one. not sj.com. when you write garbage like this, without anything to back it up (i mean you even refute that Croatia's economy is bigger than Serbia's, very easy to verify) then i have reason to doubt the state of your mental health

Nikolle, don't fall into his trap. He has a vivid imagination, he has no sources and if he mentions sources he cannot reveal them due to the secrecy. If you show him something that proves he is wrong, it was printed for the west to fool them.
(psych101, 8 April 2012 16:01)
Yes and my vivid imagination also brought about a second recession in the EU and my vivid imagination will cause the EU recession to have an even worse affect on the US economy. Yes Nikolle it’s all in my mind. The people who write what the west does not want to hear are ridiculed just like the people that wrote about the toxic loans and the problems, but they were ridiculed and ignored, but 2008 came like a bolt of lightning – overnight we had this mess. But it was known since 2000.
I see that what I have said so far is all wrong – the US job rate has improved and its back on top again. Keep on dreaming.

"where on earth have you read that Kosova has 85% unemployment rate? serioulsy get off the Orthodox Gazette and read ACTUAL news "
(Nikolle, 7 April 2012 21:46)

Indeed, 85% is nonsense, the real numbers are around 'only' 50% unemployment, maybe a bit higher amongst the young people. But it sounds worse than it is if you know that a good percentage of Kosovo Albanians have unofficial 'work' in their mafia clans.

sj don't get angry with some new contributors to these forums who are ignorant about the fact that you are the CE of B92 forums and that with your unparalled financial and economic expertise and news sources (like your knowledgable Malaysian friend) you have never been wrong in predicting economic, financial and political development in the world. If they knew that, they would ask about boring stuff like facts, evidence and bla, bla, bla... your word should be sufficient :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 9 April 2012 01:35)
Am I far more intelligent than your lot? yes and by miles far smarter? I have never read more drivel than what comes from Albanians posting crap. However, why not try and posting it on your ALBANIAN sites as I can guarantee you that I will never make a comment there. If I am dreaming or telling lies then I am doing that to my fellow Serbs so why worry? All you have to do is follow the money trail.
Unfortunate I can’t help ignorance amongst your lot. The facts that you are after are published, if you are lucky, a decade after these events. What are you waiting for? The US treasury to publish the actual indebtness of the US or perhaps do a computer model for you giving a picture of where the US is heading to? Yeah, icj you just hold your breath until they do that.
I am still waiting for someone, anyone to tell me “Is Ford there or perhaps GM or maybe Campbell’s foods, Microsoft, Apple etc. Is Kosovo making parts for the Boeing factory??”
Just as I suspected sj, not a SINGLE source given, but not a SINGLE one.
(Nikolle, 8 April 2012 23:57)
Then why make comments on my postings? My old Professor of Finance who is no longer with us would say “you have to do the work” so read up on an author called Satyajit Das on EU and US debt Google him. This guy is very good. This guy was screaming from the roof tops of an impending GFC as far back as 2005/2006 and ignored like most who did not play ball with the sharks.

Just as I suspected sj, not a SINGLE source given, but not a SINGLE one.

Comm. ParrissoN

Prove it. Prove that a HIGHT percentage of K. Albanians have unofficial work in mafia clans. go ahead, i am at your mercy

Indeed, 85% is nonsense, the real numbers are around 'only' 50% unemployment, maybe a bit higher amongst the young people. But it sounds worse than it is if you know that a good percentage of Kosovo Albanians have unofficial 'work' in their mafia clans.
(Comm. Parrisson, 8 April 2012 21:31)
And now we are counting criminal activities as employment. Wow, even the west did not think of that one.
However, the question still stands in that what industry has relocated to Kosovo?
Is Ford there or perhaps GM or maybe Campbell’s foods, Microsoft, Apple etc. Is Kosovo making parts for the Boeing factory??
The US has an official unemployment of 8.5% and anyone who believes that needs urgent psychiatric assistance. The Spanish government stated they have 22% unemployed with 60% between the ages of 16 and 30 and you claim the Kosovo is only 50%. Dream on mate.
As I said before truth is like a crystal glass, when you strike it with your finger it gives that clear sound of quality while with BS there is only a dull thud, and boy are you Albanians full of it. Although I must commend you for coming up with the idea of counting criminals as being employed. I suppose the Pristina administration has troops of thugs who rob people or does it have money trees planted everywhere or does income from customs duty provide enough to survive as an independent country?

"Prove it. Prove that a HIGHT percentage of K. Albanians have unofficial work in mafia clans. go ahead, i am at your mercy"
(Nikolle, 9 April 2012 00:08)

Well, a proof? You won't find those things in official statistics, not even in Kosovarian ones. Just a little quote from Wikipedia (Economy of Kosovo)

"The economy has been seriously weakened by Kosovo's still-unresolved international status, which has made it difficult to attract investment and loans.[18] The region's economic weakness has produced a thriving black market in which smuggled petrol, cigarettes and cement are major commodities. The prevalence of official corruption (and the pervasive influence of organised-crime gangs) has caused serious concern internationally."

I just found a websited called mafiatoday.com (I have no idea if this is a reliable website) containing a nice summary article about Kosovo (from Dec.2010, but I don't think much has changed in the meantime, and if, not to the better.

http://mafiatoday.com/other-mafia-orgs/kosovos-organized-crime-burden/

Now as B92 is a SERBIAN-based news organization and you don’t like reading these comment then p… o.. to your Albanian media. No one is holding a gun to your head to read my comments. But I don’t lie nor do I have to either because what disturbs people like you is there is a ringing of truth in my statements which you are not getting from your official sources.
(sj, 8 April 2012 15:59)

sj don't get angry with some new contributors to these forums who are ignorant about the fact that you are the CE of B92 forums and that with your unparalled financial and economic expertise and news sources (like your knowledgable Malaysian friend) you have never been wrong in predicting economic, financial and political development in the world. If they knew that, they would ask about boring stuff like facts, evidence and bla, bla, bla... your word should be sufficient :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

It’s a slow reintegration process – otherwise Kosovo cannot exist by itself. That is what we are witnessing here.
(sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)

Albania is there when it comes to integration....It is more realistic!

"Thirdly where are these Albanians going to find work? Yes it’s Serbia again."
(sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)

Yes, sure, in Serbia, which itself has an unemployment rate of about 20% (on a similar level than the poorest EU countries)

sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)
All Albanians can take a sigh of relief now. Once you have predicted reintegration, everyone and I mean EVERYONE knows it is as likely to happen as Thaci becoming PM of Serbia.
I mean all the elements are there the EU says no local elections, Serbia says no local elections in Kosovo. EP vote resolution that all EU states should recognize Kosovo, EP says Serbia has to develop better relations with Kosovo. SErbia begs UNMIK to help with local elections in Kosovo, UNMIK says sorry we can't.
REintegration is right around the corner.
Elevator doesn't quite reach the top does it?

What an amazing change in tone from Tahini. The Big Boys in the EU must have told her and her Crime Minister to tone it down, because they were doing more harm to the future welfare of KiM, than good. Not to mention being an embarrassment to their EU backers.

Once asks why has there been a 360 degree change in attitude? It’s bleeding obvious as the nose on a persons face and I have been stating it many times.
Firstly, the world is changing with power shifting away from where it rested for the last 400 years or so and consequently the first change in attitude towards Serbia.
Secondly, the EU has 1.2 million mouths to feed and there is an 80 to 85 per cent unemployment rate in Kosovo and after 13 years nothing has changed. It is now no longer a big secret that the EU has entered into another recession, as if they had got out of the last one, but that is for another time. The US is no longer a dependable partner and cannot share its burden of the Kosovo problem and with the EU in recession the situation in the US will really start to hot up and not for the better, as official figures today show another slow down and job losses for March.
Thirdly where are these Albanians going to find work? Yes it’s Serbia again.
What has finally sunk into those chronic morons in Brussels is that the one answer is REINTEGRATION of Kosovo with Serbia. You think I am joking? This is no joke as it’s a reality. It’s a slow reintegration process – otherwise Kosovo cannot exist by itself. That is what we are witnessing here.

Get real!
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 19:10)

you should worry about serbia's further disintergration (Sandzak,Vojvodina,Preshevo etc.) you are powerless over the possibility of an Albanian union and it is none of your concern. Get real!

"Secondly, the EU has 1.2 million mouths to feed and there is an 80 to 85 per cent unemployment rate "

where on earth have you read that Kosova has 85% unemployment rate? serioulsy get off the Orthodox Gazette and read ACTUAL news

Hahaha, good one, Oker, Albanians trying in Pristina to implement agreements with Serbia by throwing rocks. BTW, where do these guys get rocks in a city? I walk around Belgrade and Novi Sad, and I do not see rocks sitting on the ground. Do they bring them with them from the villages? And why not tomatoes, they are lighter and better for the ecology?

"Albania is there when it comes to integration....It is more realistic!"
(EA, 7 April 2012 15:21)

EA, you don´t know what you´re talking about. if only the K-albanian extremists made that mistake, I would be happy! ...because, THAT would be a major reason to take stronger and more direct measures against the greater albanian illusion amongst you dreamers.

by the way, why is it that I always have a donkey-sound in mind, when I read your nickname? =)

no, your wishfull thinking is leading nowhere, you can only hope that your "friends" do not let you down. but, to be serious, what the heck should the Albanians make different from all those other nations that have been let down by their american "friends" in the past?

I doubt that you really have thought about that, down there in your little room in front of an old computer-screen somewhere in southern Serbia.

don´t you worry, everything will be fine. except for those Albanians who have comitted crimes against their serb or albanian neighbours. and believe me, those who did so, will be identified! because there are also a lot of Albanians out there who would be pragmatic if the situation on the ground changes... and that means that YOU should be cautious, you cannot know who will be the one that will be denouncing you, once the time has come...

and that is only a question of time, my dear k-albanian friend...

But EA, Albania does not want you guys back. Your relatives ran from Hoxha during Tito's time, and now you want to unite with the motherland again? You can't have it all, can you? Besides, Albania itself is dirt poor, what makes you think it can take on another 1.5 million needy mouths to feed? Get real!

Problems within Serbia itself are far greater than Kosova's issues. Vojvodina has suggested or even requested they want their own police. That's a strong message for a possible future Independence. Secondly, there are no borders between Albania and Kosova. Uniting is the last step, everything else has already taken place. Serbs are unaware of this because they are still sleeping. If Kosova has to join a country to Survive, you better bet your asses it will be Albania for many reasons. Were one, we always wanted to be united. If Serbs complain about Kosova not being able to be independent that will only push Kosova towards Albania. 85% of unemployment? Haha, last time I saw a documentary about Serbia it wasn't like I was reading about Luxembourg lol. It doesn't take much to keep Serbia shut down. Preseva will join Kosova. No one ever thought some 90 Countries would recognize Kosova either. Guess what? They did. Serbs have been day-dreaming and never moved on from 1999. They are stuck there, and the chances are they will be there until they recognize Kosova.
PEACE

"She pointed out that the Priština authorities were working hard in order to fully implement the agreements that have been reached so far."

Yes, and some Kosovo Albanians on the streets of Pristina were working even 'hard as rock' on the people who want to talk about the implementation of the agreement.

Loser weasel words

Ah there are five EU members missing to recognise Kosovo.
I am wondering what the price will be to bribe the five remaining states ?
Maybe these states are the only ones who know what albanians are all about.

@ ecoman I love reading your comments poz. iz cikago

"Kosovo would have faced a total international isolation if it had not accepted agreements with Belgrade, Priština team chief Edita Tahiri has stated."

Wow, someone finally sees things realistically in Pristina. Now Kosovo can stay partially isolated, or participate as Kosovo*.

The EU, and your "Big Friend America", will NEVER allow Kosovo Albanians to join their mother ship, Albania. The day you guys, Kosovo Albanci, declared your UDI in KiM, you threw away your opportunity to join your homeland, Albania. You can't have it all, sorry. Do you guys actually think that the EU would allow you to join Kosovo with Albania? If you do, you are dumber than I thought.

"Besides, Albania itself is dirt poor, what makes you think it can take on another 1.5 million needy mouths to feed? Get real!"
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 19:10)

The more serious problem is that the corrupt Albanian politicians don't want some competition with the even more criminal and corrupt Kosovo politicians.

"Secondly, the EU has 1.2 million mouths to feed and there is an 80 to 85 per cent unemployment rate "

where on earth have you read that Kosova has 85% unemployment rate? serioulsy get off the Orthodox Gazette and read ACTUAL news
(Nikolle, 7 April 2012 21:46)

What is your understanding as to what the unemployment rate is in Kosova? That would be excluding the organ harvesters as I don't think that's a bonafide profession,although in Albania maybe it is. Is it?
BTW, where can I find that ACTUAL news you make mention of? Maybe roberto?

mrs tahiri is just forgetting one thing:kosovo is already for most of it population in an isolation state and has nothing to lose!So her need to surrender is only for her private trips(she will not be then invited free to travel!)...
To ecoman:you remind me a time when all around and especially in the media we read we will never allow the desintegration of yougoslavia!
and guess what happen?
So don't worry:albanians will unite one day,like it or not.It is just a question of time.You had you chance to kill us,you did not succed,so know try to learn with a comming great albania!
and please don't tell me your politicans do not want such an issue:we already know that,because just like this lady they are not free,but believe me that our people is ready for this union which is in our minds vivant as never in our History !
so just go on with your denial and your antialbanian comments:you always have done more for albanian nationalism than the more natonalist of us!just go on!

sj

you must have some reason or economic journal to have come up with such a figure. which one is it? go ahead, give me the sources you've been reading. spread your wisdom with those who seek it. where on io have you read that Kosova's unemployment rate is 85%? where? am i to take it, that Serbia's offical numbers regardings its unemplyed is also wrong? or is that to be trusted? latest published figures in ksovo asset a 40/45% unemployment, still high, but half of what you've written. source? the CIA fact book. now, which are your sources? let me educate myself.

sj

is that what the EU is demanding of Serbia? that Albanians be allowed to work there? source please. i want to read from an actual source, reliable one. not sj.com. when you write garbage like this, without anything to back it up (i mean you even refute that Croatia's economy is bigger than Serbia's, very easy to verify) then i have reason to doubt the state of your mental health

"Thirdly where are these Albanians going to find work? Yes it’s Serbia again."
(sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)

Yes, sure, in Serbia, which itself has an unemployment rate of about 20% (on a similar level than the poorest EU countries)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 April 2012 18:12)

Perhaps, but compared to Kosovo's 50%, Central Serbia is heaven

Yes, sure, in Serbia, which itself has an unemployment rate of about 20% (on a similar level than the poorest EU countries)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 April 2012 18:12)
Last week Robert Cooper arrived in Belgrade and for the first time revealed what the EU expects from Serbia and it is:
Free movement of the Albanians in Kosovo
Ability to seek work in Serbia, especially since industry is opening up there at a fast rate and especially since Serbia will start to feel the effects of a labour shortage by 2014. These are long-term planning issues mot just for today or tomorrow.
The ability for the Albanians to live in Serbia proper while they work there etc. – now this one is a real hoot, these Albanians claim to have suffered at the hands of the Serbs but are now more than happy to either work for them or work alongside them after all that has happened.
Serbia officially has 20% but it is anywhere between 25% and 30% just like all the eastern bloc countries including places like Poland, Chezcks, Hungary etc. In fact Spain has 22%, Portugal has 27%, Ireland has 27% and the best is the US which has only 8.5% when in fact it’s anywhere between 25 to 32%.
Like it or not, but Tahiri is being honest for a moment – the EU has run out of money and it needs to have Kosovo help itself rather than totally rely on EU handouts. So how do you think this is going to happen, well Cooper and Tahiri have given you an insight into the future, but if you see this as unrealistic then tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own? And please no nonsense about Kosovo being rich with resources – that is pure BS. What little resource it does have will be exploited by the international corporations and your people will get nothing – that’s how they work.
It’s a slow reintegration process – otherwise Kosovo cannot exist by itself. That is what we are witnessing here.
(sj, 7 April 2012 14:03)

Albania is there when it comes to integration....It is more realistic!
(EA, 7 April 2012 15:21)
The EU will burn every Albania alive before they allow a union of Kosovo and Albania. The EU does not want a large Islamic nation in the midst. On top of that Albania cannot integrate Kosovo as it would collapse financially. You don’t think so, read up on the cost of integrating eastern Germany and Albania does not have a thousandth of Germany’s wealth.
All Albanians can take a sigh of relief now. Once you have predicted reintegration, everyone and I mean EVERYONE knows it is as likely to happen as Thaci becoming PM of Serbia.
I mean all the elements are there the EU says no local elections, Serbia says no local elections in Kosovo. EP vote resolution that all EU states should recognize Kosovo, EP says Serbia has to develop better relations with Kosovo. SErbia begs UNMIK to help with local elections in Kosovo, UNMIK says sorry we can't.
REintegration is right around the corner.
Elevator doesn't quite reach the top does it?
(What a joke, 7 April 2012 16:47)
What appears on the surface and what goes on behind closed doors are two different things, and you will learn that soon enough. Now Serbia held how many elections in Kosovo and there were no problems????? All of a sudden its 1224 – that is Tadic appealing to his western masters that is all. What has changed in Kosovo for the last 13 years???? NOTHING at ALL. What do you think is going to happen now that the EU is officially in recession? Unrest throughout Europe and in Kosovo. So why this elaborate game? Because these Brussels morons don’t know any other way. You notice that the Serbs do what they like where even NATO cannot touch them? What would be the effects of your lot announcing what I have just posted? There would be riots in the streets asking the question “why have we gone through all of this hardship only to be led to the same destination in the end? The answer is US politics.
But as you see it different, tell me how Kosovo is going to survive on its own with no industry, no resources (water, energy or minerals to speak off). Once you honestly answer this to yourself the rest becomes very clear.
"Secondly, the EU has 1.2 million mouths to feed and there is an 80 to 85 per cent unemployment rate "

where on earth have you read that Kosova has 85% unemployment rate? seriously get off the Orthodox Gazette and read ACTUAL news
(Nikolle, 7 April 2012 21:46)
That’s right there is only 12% unemployment as I can see the enormous amount of industry working there and manufacturing and exporting Albanian BS which is much sought after worldwide. Get real the only people employed are working for the government which is being funded by the EU. As I said the US claims it has 8.5% unemployment – now that is also a good laugh. Hey I could be wrong but do tell is Microsoft or Ford or GM or Boeing in Kosovo? Or perhaps in the last 13 years your lot has somehow circumvented the usual path of becoming a consumer society and are now even better that the EU or US? In your dreams only.

you must have some reason or economic journal to have come up with such a figure. which one is it? go ahead, give me the sources you've been reading. spread your wisdom with those who seek it. where on io have you read that Kosova's unemployment rate is 85%? where? am i to take it, that Serbia's offical numbers regardings its unemplyed is also wrong? or is that to be trusted? latest published figures in ksovo asset a 40/45% unemployment, still high, but half of what you've written. source? the CIA fact book. now, which are your sources? let me educate myself.
(Nikolle, 8 April 2012 13:56)
The CIA fact book. Hello it’s the CIA – it’s their business to tell you CRAP. Spain confesses to 22% overall unemployment with levels reaching 60% for people between 16 and 30 and this is Spain and you think Kosovo has only 40/45%.
I work for an organization that does its own research into the financial status and employment levels in countries. It never did that prior to 2007, but since the GFC it no longer trusts western rating agencies nor information released by western governments as most of it is useless except for propaganda purposes. That is why I know.
The US official unemployment is 8.5%; now if you believe that one then you need mental help. Particularly considering that for the last 12 months alone the levels of unemployment has risen and not fallen but new criteria has been set so that certain categories do not receive social payments or these benefits are delayed. It called a cover up. You should get a job in government – it’s a real eye opener.
Governments lie to cover up a bad situation – they ALL DO IT. Serbia’s true unemployment is anywhere between 25 and 30% just like all the other Eastern European countries, but some westerns have caught up such as Ireland which has 27%.
But don’t believe me just sit down and ask yourself the question, what industry has relocated to Kosovo. You list all the industry that has opened up in Kosovo since 1999 to take up the unemployment that exists there. List them all please. Where is the work? Farms? No as that industry is very small so where then?
Is Ford there or perhaps GM or maybe Campbells foods or is Kosovo making parts for the Boeing factory?? What does it produce to earn income to sustain a society? When you answer this question then you will be honest with yourself.

is that what the EU is demanding of Serbia? that Albanians be allowed to work there? source please. i want to read from an actual source, reliable one. not sj.com. when you write garbage like this, without anything to back it up (i mean you even refute that Croatia's economy is bigger than Serbia's, very easy to verify) then i have reason to doubt the state of your mental health
(Nikolle, 8 April 2012 13:59)
That message came from Robert Cooper, the EU facilitator when he was in Belgrade a couple of days ago. He said that free movement must be given to the Albanians to not just cross Serbia proper but also to seek work there in the future. That is what the EU is demanding of Serbia. He gave a short press statement which was aired on RTS as well as other European news bulletins – I saw the RTS press clip and could clearly understand what was said as Cooper was speaking in English.
For the f…… 1000th time you stupid people of course Croatia’s economy is bigger than Serbia’s at the moment – yes, yes, yes. Serbia’s economy was destroyed by the west but they prop UP CROATIA, SLOVENIA and so on. In other words the EU gives money to the Croatian and Slovene Governments otherwise they would be poorer than Albania. Much like Montenegro - they all live mainly from tourism and since the GFC tourism worldwide has declined in big numbers and tourism only last 3 to four months of the year so where do you think these people get money to maintain the standard of living?
Now as B92 is a SERBIAN-based news organization and you don’t like reading these comment then p… o.. to your Albanian media. No one is holding a gun to your head to read my comments. But I don’t lie nor do I have to either because what disturbs people like you is there is a ringing of truth in my statements which you are not getting from your official sources.

Comm. ParrissoN

Prove it. Prove that a HIGHT percentage of K. Albanians have unofficial work in mafia clans. go ahead, i am at your mercy

Well said SJ

is that what the EU is demanding of Serbia? that Albanians be allowed to work there? source please. i want to read from an actual source, reliable one. not sj.com. when you write garbage like this, without anything to back it up (i mean you even refute that Croatia's economy is bigger than Serbia's, very easy to verify) then i have reason to doubt the state of your mental health
(Nikolle, 8 April 2012 13:59)
Nikolle, don't fall into his trap. He has a vivid imagination, he has no sources and if he mentions sources he cannot reveal them due to the secrecy. If you show him something that proves he is wrong, it was printed for the west to fool them.

Nikolle, don't fall into his trap. He has a vivid imagination, he has no sources and if he mentions sources he cannot reveal them due to the secrecy. If you show him something that proves he is wrong, it was printed for the west to fool them.
(psych101, 8 April 2012 16:01)
Yes and my vivid imagination also brought about a second recession in the EU and my vivid imagination will cause the EU recession to have an even worse affect on the US economy. Yes Nikolle it’s all in my mind. The people who write what the west does not want to hear are ridiculed just like the people that wrote about the toxic loans and the problems, but they were ridiculed and ignored, but 2008 came like a bolt of lightning – overnight we had this mess. But it was known since 2000.
I see that what I have said so far is all wrong – the US job rate has improved and its back on top again. Keep on dreaming.

"where on earth have you read that Kosova has 85% unemployment rate? serioulsy get off the Orthodox Gazette and read ACTUAL news "
(Nikolle, 7 April 2012 21:46)

Indeed, 85% is nonsense, the real numbers are around 'only' 50% unemployment, maybe a bit higher amongst the young people. But it sounds worse than it is if you know that a good percentage of Kosovo Albanians have unofficial 'work' in their mafia clans.

Just as I suspected sj, not a SINGLE source given, but not a SINGLE one.

Now as B92 is a SERBIAN-based news organization and you don’t like reading these comment then p… o.. to your Albanian media. No one is holding a gun to your head to read my comments. But I don’t lie nor do I have to either because what disturbs people like you is there is a ringing of truth in my statements which you are not getting from your official sources.
(sj, 8 April 2012 15:59)

sj don't get angry with some new contributors to these forums who are ignorant about the fact that you are the CE of B92 forums and that with your unparalled financial and economic expertise and news sources (like your knowledgable Malaysian friend) you have never been wrong in predicting economic, financial and political development in the world. If they knew that, they would ask about boring stuff like facts, evidence and bla, bla, bla... your word should be sufficient :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Indeed, 85% is nonsense, the real numbers are around 'only' 50% unemployment, maybe a bit higher amongst the young people. But it sounds worse than it is if you know that a good percentage of Kosovo Albanians have unofficial 'work' in their mafia clans.
(Comm. Parrisson, 8 April 2012 21:31)
And now we are counting criminal activities as employment. Wow, even the west did not think of that one.
However, the question still stands in that what industry has relocated to Kosovo?
Is Ford there or perhaps GM or maybe Campbell’s foods, Microsoft, Apple etc. Is Kosovo making parts for the Boeing factory??
The US has an official unemployment of 8.5% and anyone who believes that needs urgent psychiatric assistance. The Spanish government stated they have 22% unemployed with 60% between the ages of 16 and 30 and you claim the Kosovo is only 50%. Dream on mate.
As I said before truth is like a crystal glass, when you strike it with your finger it gives that clear sound of quality while with BS there is only a dull thud, and boy are you Albanians full of it. Although I must commend you for coming up with the idea of counting criminals as being employed. I suppose the Pristina administration has troops of thugs who rob people or does it have money trees planted everywhere or does income from customs duty provide enough to survive as an independent country?

sj don't get angry with some new contributors to these forums who are ignorant about the fact that you are the CE of B92 forums and that with your unparalled financial and economic expertise and news sources (like your knowledgable Malaysian friend) you have never been wrong in predicting economic, financial and political development in the world. If they knew that, they would ask about boring stuff like facts, evidence and bla, bla, bla... your word should be sufficient :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 9 April 2012 01:35)
Am I far more intelligent than your lot? yes and by miles far smarter? I have never read more drivel than what comes from Albanians posting crap. However, why not try and posting it on your ALBANIAN sites as I can guarantee you that I will never make a comment there. If I am dreaming or telling lies then I am doing that to my fellow Serbs so why worry? All you have to do is follow the money trail.
Unfortunate I can’t help ignorance amongst your lot. The facts that you are after are published, if you are lucky, a decade after these events. What are you waiting for? The US treasury to publish the actual indebtness of the US or perhaps do a computer model for you giving a picture of where the US is heading to? Yeah, icj you just hold your breath until they do that.
I am still waiting for someone, anyone to tell me “Is Ford there or perhaps GM or maybe Campbell’s foods, Microsoft, Apple etc. Is Kosovo making parts for the Boeing factory??”
Just as I suspected sj, not a SINGLE source given, but not a SINGLE one.
(Nikolle, 8 April 2012 23:57)
Then why make comments on my postings? My old Professor of Finance who is no longer with us would say “you have to do the work” so read up on an author called Satyajit Das on EU and US debt Google him. This guy is very good. This guy was screaming from the roof tops of an impending GFC as far back as 2005/2006 and ignored like most who did not play ball with the sharks.

"Prove it. Prove that a HIGHT percentage of K. Albanians have unofficial work in mafia clans. go ahead, i am at your mercy"
(Nikolle, 9 April 2012 00:08)

Well, a proof? You won't find those things in official statistics, not even in Kosovarian ones. Just a little quote from Wikipedia (Economy of Kosovo)

"The economy has been seriously weakened by Kosovo's still-unresolved international status, which has made it difficult to attract investment and loans.[18] The region's economic weakness has produced a thriving black market in which smuggled petrol, cigarettes and cement are major commodities. The prevalence of official corruption (and the pervasive influence of organised-crime gangs) has caused serious concern internationally."

I just found a websited called mafiatoday.com (I have no idea if this is a reliable website) containing a nice summary article about Kosovo (from Dec.2010, but I don't think much has changed in the meantime, and if, not to the better.

http://mafiatoday.com/other-mafia-orgs/kosovos-organized-crime-burden/