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Saturday, 07.04.2012.

10:43

Minister, PM meet with DEA officials

Serbian Interior Minister Ivica Dačić said that Friday's visit of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Administrator Michele Leonhart was historic.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Engineer

pre 12 godina

Engineer, let's not be stupid, here. Serbians fought the Turks in 1389 on Kosovo soil. Yes, they lost to an overpowering Ottoman force, but did not mean that Serbs lost their land - they had it occupied by the Turks. As for Albanians, I have no idea where you guys came into the picture. All I know is that Albanians kept showing up, but instead of fighting for their beliefs and ways of life, they converted to Islam and being Ottoman subjects. There, is the root of most problems. Albanians are viewed as traitors, turncoats, converts, like Bosniaks in BiH. You gave up your religious beliefs for benefits, you converted for favors. What can one think of people like these? In any case, Albanians have historically sold out to the power of the moment - be it Ottoman, Nazi Germany, or now the Western powers. But, history will repeat itself, I guarantee it, and the Albanci will once again be left high and dry with no friends. And then what? Engineer, the League of Prizren was a modern day KLA, they tried to take land by force, but were slapped down. The Congress of Berlin put them in their place. Albanians trying to steal serbian land in KiM is nothing new - Albanians have been trying to steal it for 100's of years now. But, as always, you will fail.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 20:31)

Ok So you fought a battle that you lost so now you claim the land something you did not own for 500 years oki do.

You did not answer where did you get Vojvodina , tried in Croatia you got you kicked down, tried in Bosnia somwhat got something there ( through genocide) tried in Kosovo you have 150K Serbs there and dying.

Good luck for now we will keep it lets talk once you get it back if you can, for now we will keep doing our thing as we are both living in America hope you go back home and help as I am helping my birth country.

Just answer me About Vojvodina if you have an answer.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Engineer, let's not be stupid, here. Serbians fought the Turks in 1389 on Kosovo soil. Yes, they lost to an overpowering Ottoman force, but did not mean that Serbs lost their land - they had it occupied by the Turks. As for Albanians, I have no idea where you guys came into the picture. All I know is that Albanians kept showing up, but instead of fighting for their beliefs and ways of life, they converted to Islam and being Ottoman subjects. There, is the root of most problems. Albanians are viewed as traitors, turncoats, converts, like Bosniaks in BiH. You gave up your religious beliefs for benefits, you converted for favors. What can one think of people like these? In any case, Albanians have historically sold out to the power of the moment - be it Ottoman, Nazi Germany, or now the Western powers. But, history will repeat itself, I guarantee it, and the Albanci will once again be left high and dry with no friends. And then what? Engineer, the League of Prizren was a modern day KLA, they tried to take land by force, but were slapped down. The Congress of Berlin put them in their place. Albanians trying to steal serbian land in KiM is nothing new - Albanians have been trying to steal it for 100's of years now. But, as always, you will fail.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Engineer, I am not claiming that there is no drug trafficking going on in Serbia, and that it does not have its share of mafias. I am say that the drug route starting in Afghanistan goes through Turkey, Albania and Kosovo. It obviously has to go there first, before it can move North through Serbia. As for my hate for Albanians, it is not hate, just a dislike. Because I consider your people to be land thieves, that came in over the borders from Albania and stole Serbia soil. You have been trying to steal Serbian land since the League of Prizren, and before. And all your Illyrian mumbo jumbo is just that, Albanian folk tales.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 15:42)

First League of Prizeren was set to escape Othoman rule as there where no Serbian land at all so learn facts first. Land theft in your mind for us land protection, they where not under Serbian Rule for 500 years then. Also same logic then Serbian Land theft in Vojvodina so no reason for you to be talking about theft as both sides have their arguments.

Second about Dacic I dont need to change his nick name as its perfectly fitting and if you read B92 in Serbian you se what Serbs call him as well nick names you do not change by day.

I have invested in Kosovo and I am doing my part I have 22employes not and its growing, true Kosovo needs more investments and it wil get in time and hopefully we will clean hose and get rid of corrupt politicians.

As per people coming to this forum and worrying about Dacic its nothing wrong if you dont not understand and some right wing people from both camps do not see it, it does not mean all should listen to your hatfull view of situation. Regardless what happens we will live side by side for many years and have to continue to do so, do business etc.

I told you above today Vojvodina is 90% Serbs so it belongs to them and Kosovo is 95% K-Albanian so it belongs to them ( also Hungarians and Serbs as minorities) [DO you consider your self a thief as Vojvodina never belonged to you before WWI] I said it many times if Germans and French who have been fighting for longer than us can learn to coexist we sure can as well.

As per ancient history I do read about it but just as that history have red books from both camps but maybe because I am an Engineer and like to solve problems I concentrate in now I do not care if Serbs came in 7th Cent. or before I do not care who lived where during Roman empire .... I tend to concentrate in the now.

I wish we could meet one day and have a drink I promise you will see we are people just like you we do not eat children and we like whats best for our family just like you. I have never hated Serbs and never will even though during Milosevic time we were mistreated but also Serbs them selves did suffer under that monster, he is the worst thing ever to have happened to Serbia in last 50 years.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Engineer, can Albanians, including yourself, PLEASE get some new nicknames for Serbian politicians? Milosevic, Jr. is as old as the Nokia phrase that Albanians have been using for 13 years now. Come on, show a little originality, you can do it. We came up with Crime Minister for Thaci, you can do better than Milosevic, Jr., I am sure. And like you propose to me, why don't you work on your end, and help in improving the lives of Kosovo's Albanians, get them of out of poverty and their hideous unemployment numbers, instead of focusing on Dacic? Calling Dacic names will not feed your hungry, or give jobs to your unemployed masses.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

ust keep patrolling that administrative line with Albanian Kosovo, and you will keep most of the drugs out of Europe. Kosovo and Albania are primary routes for heroin coming from Afghanistan via Turkey. Good work Dacic in helping stop, or at least slow down, this evil criminal brotherhood.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 11:54)

Just ask Albanian government if they call the border between Kosova&Albania an "administrative line" , and please let us all know about it. I am glad you did not have the guts to say that , that is is the border between Albania and Serbia. You know the truth, so stick with it when you post your own comments!!!

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Engineer, I am not claiming that there is no drug trafficking going on in Serbia, and that it does not have its share of mafias. I am say that the drug route starting in Afghanistan goes through Turkey, Albania and Kosovo. It obviously has to go there first, before it can move North through Serbia. As for my hate for Albanians, it is not hate, just a dislike. Because I consider your people to be land thieves, that came in over the borders from Albania and stole Serbia soil. You have been trying to steal Serbian land since the League of Prizren, and before. And all your Illyrian mumbo jumbo is just that, Albanian folk tales.

pot, kettle, black

pre 12 godina

REF: 10 BELGRADE 29; 10 PODGORICA 25; 09 BELGRADE 212
09 BELGRADE 469

CLASSIFIED BY: Mary Warlick, Ambassador, State, EXEC; REASON: 1.4(B),
(D)

Summary

-------



1. (C) Serbian efforts to crack down on narcotics trafficking and
organized crime have led to several arrests, including in the
Operation Balkan Warrior case, which began with Serbian cooperation
in seizing two tons of cocaine in October 2009. Montenegrin-born
organized crime figure Darko Saric has been implicated in the case,
but cooperation between Montenegro and Serbia has faltered as both
sides have traded accusations that there is no will to see the case
through. The case became further complicated with press
allegations of high-level Serbian Interior Ministry links to Saric.
Our police contacts tell us there is some truth to the rumors and
they are seeing signs of political interference.(...)

7. (SBU) Meanwhile, the local media has speculated that there were
leaks in the investigation and possible ties between Interior
Minister Dacic's staff and Saric.(...)

http://leaks.hohesc.us/?view=10BELGRADE35

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

"Serbian Prime Minister Mirko Cvetković said during his meeting with Leonhart that Serbia and the U.S. had excellent cooperation in the fight against organized crime and drug trafficking."

While Kosovo and the US have good cooperation with supporting organized crime and drug trafficking (though Obama refused to shake hands with Thaci).

Wally

pre 12 godina

Maybe some in the us admin are coming around. We are open to friendship, even after everything they have done to us. We forgive but will not forget. Serbia is clearly a force for good in the world, and those in the west are starting to realise that. Still laughing that the snake was bounced by Obama.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Nothing wrong with my geography, whoever you are. Did I have to mention every border that drugs go through to get to Kosovo? To make you happy, Albanians in Bulgaria and Macedonia have their share in the game too. Happy now? Sorry to spoil your "gotcha moment", and attempt at sarcasm.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 13:11)

It's sad you have all this hate towards Albanians you know hate is very harmfull for you. All world knows that Srbian Mafia is active in drug trade just look bellow and you shall see and that with Tons. I posted some links bellow for you to read and inform your selfe!!!

And you know what is sad thing is that I can guarantee that Serbian and Albanin mafia work together but sadly our people just stop at nothing but hate I guess this cycle between us wil continue but I do see hope in people living back home.

Dacic will be more served to keep his house in order and then start looking for in cleaning neighborhood, especially Milosevic Jr, same time if you despise Thaqi you should Dacic. And I tell you most K-Albanians do not like Thaqi or any of leaders we have in power now but what keeps them there is the tension with Serbia, I hope the news about solution for north comes this year and then both can clean house and move together to a better neighborhood.

[http://dalje.com/en-world/serbias-drug-mafia-threatens-top-officials-daily/293673]

[http://hetq.am/eng/news/11832/us-state-department---corruption-slows-progress-on-organized-crime-in-caucasus.html]

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Nothing wrong with my geography, whoever you are. Did I have to mention every border that drugs go through to get to Kosovo? To make you happy, Albanians in Bulgaria and Macedonia have their share in the game too. Happy now? Sorry to spoil your "gotcha moment", and attempt at sarcasm.

the world according to ecoman

pre 12 godina

Kosovo and Albania are primary routes for heroin coming from Afghanistan via Turkey. Good work Dacic in helping stop, or at least slow down, this evil criminal brotherhood.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 11:54)

Since Turkey, Kosovo and Albania have a common border... You obviously skipped geography at school.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Just keep patrolling that administrative line with Albanian Kosovo, and you will keep most of the drugs out of Europe. Kosovo and Albania are primary routes for heroin coming from Afghanistan via Turkey. Good work Dacic in helping stop, or at least slow down, this evil criminal brotherhood.

the world according to ecoman

pre 12 godina

Kosovo and Albania are primary routes for heroin coming from Afghanistan via Turkey. Good work Dacic in helping stop, or at least slow down, this evil criminal brotherhood.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 11:54)

Since Turkey, Kosovo and Albania have a common border... You obviously skipped geography at school.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Nothing wrong with my geography, whoever you are. Did I have to mention every border that drugs go through to get to Kosovo? To make you happy, Albanians in Bulgaria and Macedonia have their share in the game too. Happy now? Sorry to spoil your "gotcha moment", and attempt at sarcasm.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Just keep patrolling that administrative line with Albanian Kosovo, and you will keep most of the drugs out of Europe. Kosovo and Albania are primary routes for heroin coming from Afghanistan via Turkey. Good work Dacic in helping stop, or at least slow down, this evil criminal brotherhood.

pot, kettle, black

pre 12 godina

REF: 10 BELGRADE 29; 10 PODGORICA 25; 09 BELGRADE 212
09 BELGRADE 469

CLASSIFIED BY: Mary Warlick, Ambassador, State, EXEC; REASON: 1.4(B),
(D)

Summary

-------



1. (C) Serbian efforts to crack down on narcotics trafficking and
organized crime have led to several arrests, including in the
Operation Balkan Warrior case, which began with Serbian cooperation
in seizing two tons of cocaine in October 2009. Montenegrin-born
organized crime figure Darko Saric has been implicated in the case,
but cooperation between Montenegro and Serbia has faltered as both
sides have traded accusations that there is no will to see the case
through. The case became further complicated with press
allegations of high-level Serbian Interior Ministry links to Saric.
Our police contacts tell us there is some truth to the rumors and
they are seeing signs of political interference.(...)

7. (SBU) Meanwhile, the local media has speculated that there were
leaks in the investigation and possible ties between Interior
Minister Dacic's staff and Saric.(...)

http://leaks.hohesc.us/?view=10BELGRADE35

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

ust keep patrolling that administrative line with Albanian Kosovo, and you will keep most of the drugs out of Europe. Kosovo and Albania are primary routes for heroin coming from Afghanistan via Turkey. Good work Dacic in helping stop, or at least slow down, this evil criminal brotherhood.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 11:54)

Just ask Albanian government if they call the border between Kosova&Albania an "administrative line" , and please let us all know about it. I am glad you did not have the guts to say that , that is is the border between Albania and Serbia. You know the truth, so stick with it when you post your own comments!!!

Wally

pre 12 godina

Maybe some in the us admin are coming around. We are open to friendship, even after everything they have done to us. We forgive but will not forget. Serbia is clearly a force for good in the world, and those in the west are starting to realise that. Still laughing that the snake was bounced by Obama.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Engineer, I am not claiming that there is no drug trafficking going on in Serbia, and that it does not have its share of mafias. I am say that the drug route starting in Afghanistan goes through Turkey, Albania and Kosovo. It obviously has to go there first, before it can move North through Serbia. As for my hate for Albanians, it is not hate, just a dislike. Because I consider your people to be land thieves, that came in over the borders from Albania and stole Serbia soil. You have been trying to steal Serbian land since the League of Prizren, and before. And all your Illyrian mumbo jumbo is just that, Albanian folk tales.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

"Serbian Prime Minister Mirko Cvetković said during his meeting with Leonhart that Serbia and the U.S. had excellent cooperation in the fight against organized crime and drug trafficking."

While Kosovo and the US have good cooperation with supporting organized crime and drug trafficking (though Obama refused to shake hands with Thaci).

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Engineer, can Albanians, including yourself, PLEASE get some new nicknames for Serbian politicians? Milosevic, Jr. is as old as the Nokia phrase that Albanians have been using for 13 years now. Come on, show a little originality, you can do it. We came up with Crime Minister for Thaci, you can do better than Milosevic, Jr., I am sure. And like you propose to me, why don't you work on your end, and help in improving the lives of Kosovo's Albanians, get them of out of poverty and their hideous unemployment numbers, instead of focusing on Dacic? Calling Dacic names will not feed your hungry, or give jobs to your unemployed masses.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Engineer, I am not claiming that there is no drug trafficking going on in Serbia, and that it does not have its share of mafias. I am say that the drug route starting in Afghanistan goes through Turkey, Albania and Kosovo. It obviously has to go there first, before it can move North through Serbia. As for my hate for Albanians, it is not hate, just a dislike. Because I consider your people to be land thieves, that came in over the borders from Albania and stole Serbia soil. You have been trying to steal Serbian land since the League of Prizren, and before. And all your Illyrian mumbo jumbo is just that, Albanian folk tales.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 15:42)

First League of Prizeren was set to escape Othoman rule as there where no Serbian land at all so learn facts first. Land theft in your mind for us land protection, they where not under Serbian Rule for 500 years then. Also same logic then Serbian Land theft in Vojvodina so no reason for you to be talking about theft as both sides have their arguments.

Second about Dacic I dont need to change his nick name as its perfectly fitting and if you read B92 in Serbian you se what Serbs call him as well nick names you do not change by day.

I have invested in Kosovo and I am doing my part I have 22employes not and its growing, true Kosovo needs more investments and it wil get in time and hopefully we will clean hose and get rid of corrupt politicians.

As per people coming to this forum and worrying about Dacic its nothing wrong if you dont not understand and some right wing people from both camps do not see it, it does not mean all should listen to your hatfull view of situation. Regardless what happens we will live side by side for many years and have to continue to do so, do business etc.

I told you above today Vojvodina is 90% Serbs so it belongs to them and Kosovo is 95% K-Albanian so it belongs to them ( also Hungarians and Serbs as minorities) [DO you consider your self a thief as Vojvodina never belonged to you before WWI] I said it many times if Germans and French who have been fighting for longer than us can learn to coexist we sure can as well.

As per ancient history I do read about it but just as that history have red books from both camps but maybe because I am an Engineer and like to solve problems I concentrate in now I do not care if Serbs came in 7th Cent. or before I do not care who lived where during Roman empire .... I tend to concentrate in the now.

I wish we could meet one day and have a drink I promise you will see we are people just like you we do not eat children and we like whats best for our family just like you. I have never hated Serbs and never will even though during Milosevic time we were mistreated but also Serbs them selves did suffer under that monster, he is the worst thing ever to have happened to Serbia in last 50 years.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Nothing wrong with my geography, whoever you are. Did I have to mention every border that drugs go through to get to Kosovo? To make you happy, Albanians in Bulgaria and Macedonia have their share in the game too. Happy now? Sorry to spoil your "gotcha moment", and attempt at sarcasm.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 13:11)

It's sad you have all this hate towards Albanians you know hate is very harmfull for you. All world knows that Srbian Mafia is active in drug trade just look bellow and you shall see and that with Tons. I posted some links bellow for you to read and inform your selfe!!!

And you know what is sad thing is that I can guarantee that Serbian and Albanin mafia work together but sadly our people just stop at nothing but hate I guess this cycle between us wil continue but I do see hope in people living back home.

Dacic will be more served to keep his house in order and then start looking for in cleaning neighborhood, especially Milosevic Jr, same time if you despise Thaqi you should Dacic. And I tell you most K-Albanians do not like Thaqi or any of leaders we have in power now but what keeps them there is the tension with Serbia, I hope the news about solution for north comes this year and then both can clean house and move together to a better neighborhood.

[http://dalje.com/en-world/serbias-drug-mafia-threatens-top-officials-daily/293673]

[http://hetq.am/eng/news/11832/us-state-department---corruption-slows-progress-on-organized-crime-in-caucasus.html]

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Engineer, let's not be stupid, here. Serbians fought the Turks in 1389 on Kosovo soil. Yes, they lost to an overpowering Ottoman force, but did not mean that Serbs lost their land - they had it occupied by the Turks. As for Albanians, I have no idea where you guys came into the picture. All I know is that Albanians kept showing up, but instead of fighting for their beliefs and ways of life, they converted to Islam and being Ottoman subjects. There, is the root of most problems. Albanians are viewed as traitors, turncoats, converts, like Bosniaks in BiH. You gave up your religious beliefs for benefits, you converted for favors. What can one think of people like these? In any case, Albanians have historically sold out to the power of the moment - be it Ottoman, Nazi Germany, or now the Western powers. But, history will repeat itself, I guarantee it, and the Albanci will once again be left high and dry with no friends. And then what? Engineer, the League of Prizren was a modern day KLA, they tried to take land by force, but were slapped down. The Congress of Berlin put them in their place. Albanians trying to steal serbian land in KiM is nothing new - Albanians have been trying to steal it for 100's of years now. But, as always, you will fail.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Engineer, let's not be stupid, here. Serbians fought the Turks in 1389 on Kosovo soil. Yes, they lost to an overpowering Ottoman force, but did not mean that Serbs lost their land - they had it occupied by the Turks. As for Albanians, I have no idea where you guys came into the picture. All I know is that Albanians kept showing up, but instead of fighting for their beliefs and ways of life, they converted to Islam and being Ottoman subjects. There, is the root of most problems. Albanians are viewed as traitors, turncoats, converts, like Bosniaks in BiH. You gave up your religious beliefs for benefits, you converted for favors. What can one think of people like these? In any case, Albanians have historically sold out to the power of the moment - be it Ottoman, Nazi Germany, or now the Western powers. But, history will repeat itself, I guarantee it, and the Albanci will once again be left high and dry with no friends. And then what? Engineer, the League of Prizren was a modern day KLA, they tried to take land by force, but were slapped down. The Congress of Berlin put them in their place. Albanians trying to steal serbian land in KiM is nothing new - Albanians have been trying to steal it for 100's of years now. But, as always, you will fail.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 20:31)

Ok So you fought a battle that you lost so now you claim the land something you did not own for 500 years oki do.

You did not answer where did you get Vojvodina , tried in Croatia you got you kicked down, tried in Bosnia somwhat got something there ( through genocide) tried in Kosovo you have 150K Serbs there and dying.

Good luck for now we will keep it lets talk once you get it back if you can, for now we will keep doing our thing as we are both living in America hope you go back home and help as I am helping my birth country.

Just answer me About Vojvodina if you have an answer.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Nothing wrong with my geography, whoever you are. Did I have to mention every border that drugs go through to get to Kosovo? To make you happy, Albanians in Bulgaria and Macedonia have their share in the game too. Happy now? Sorry to spoil your "gotcha moment", and attempt at sarcasm.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Just keep patrolling that administrative line with Albanian Kosovo, and you will keep most of the drugs out of Europe. Kosovo and Albania are primary routes for heroin coming from Afghanistan via Turkey. Good work Dacic in helping stop, or at least slow down, this evil criminal brotherhood.

Wally

pre 12 godina

Maybe some in the us admin are coming around. We are open to friendship, even after everything they have done to us. We forgive but will not forget. Serbia is clearly a force for good in the world, and those in the west are starting to realise that. Still laughing that the snake was bounced by Obama.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Engineer, can Albanians, including yourself, PLEASE get some new nicknames for Serbian politicians? Milosevic, Jr. is as old as the Nokia phrase that Albanians have been using for 13 years now. Come on, show a little originality, you can do it. We came up with Crime Minister for Thaci, you can do better than Milosevic, Jr., I am sure. And like you propose to me, why don't you work on your end, and help in improving the lives of Kosovo's Albanians, get them of out of poverty and their hideous unemployment numbers, instead of focusing on Dacic? Calling Dacic names will not feed your hungry, or give jobs to your unemployed masses.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

"Serbian Prime Minister Mirko Cvetković said during his meeting with Leonhart that Serbia and the U.S. had excellent cooperation in the fight against organized crime and drug trafficking."

While Kosovo and the US have good cooperation with supporting organized crime and drug trafficking (though Obama refused to shake hands with Thaci).

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

ust keep patrolling that administrative line with Albanian Kosovo, and you will keep most of the drugs out of Europe. Kosovo and Albania are primary routes for heroin coming from Afghanistan via Turkey. Good work Dacic in helping stop, or at least slow down, this evil criminal brotherhood.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 11:54)

Just ask Albanian government if they call the border between Kosova&Albania an "administrative line" , and please let us all know about it. I am glad you did not have the guts to say that , that is is the border between Albania and Serbia. You know the truth, so stick with it when you post your own comments!!!

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Nothing wrong with my geography, whoever you are. Did I have to mention every border that drugs go through to get to Kosovo? To make you happy, Albanians in Bulgaria and Macedonia have their share in the game too. Happy now? Sorry to spoil your "gotcha moment", and attempt at sarcasm.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 13:11)

It's sad you have all this hate towards Albanians you know hate is very harmfull for you. All world knows that Srbian Mafia is active in drug trade just look bellow and you shall see and that with Tons. I posted some links bellow for you to read and inform your selfe!!!

And you know what is sad thing is that I can guarantee that Serbian and Albanin mafia work together but sadly our people just stop at nothing but hate I guess this cycle between us wil continue but I do see hope in people living back home.

Dacic will be more served to keep his house in order and then start looking for in cleaning neighborhood, especially Milosevic Jr, same time if you despise Thaqi you should Dacic. And I tell you most K-Albanians do not like Thaqi or any of leaders we have in power now but what keeps them there is the tension with Serbia, I hope the news about solution for north comes this year and then both can clean house and move together to a better neighborhood.

[http://dalje.com/en-world/serbias-drug-mafia-threatens-top-officials-daily/293673]

[http://hetq.am/eng/news/11832/us-state-department---corruption-slows-progress-on-organized-crime-in-caucasus.html]

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Engineer, I am not claiming that there is no drug trafficking going on in Serbia, and that it does not have its share of mafias. I am say that the drug route starting in Afghanistan goes through Turkey, Albania and Kosovo. It obviously has to go there first, before it can move North through Serbia. As for my hate for Albanians, it is not hate, just a dislike. Because I consider your people to be land thieves, that came in over the borders from Albania and stole Serbia soil. You have been trying to steal Serbian land since the League of Prizren, and before. And all your Illyrian mumbo jumbo is just that, Albanian folk tales.

the world according to ecoman

pre 12 godina

Kosovo and Albania are primary routes for heroin coming from Afghanistan via Turkey. Good work Dacic in helping stop, or at least slow down, this evil criminal brotherhood.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 11:54)

Since Turkey, Kosovo and Albania have a common border... You obviously skipped geography at school.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Engineer, let's not be stupid, here. Serbians fought the Turks in 1389 on Kosovo soil. Yes, they lost to an overpowering Ottoman force, but did not mean that Serbs lost their land - they had it occupied by the Turks. As for Albanians, I have no idea where you guys came into the picture. All I know is that Albanians kept showing up, but instead of fighting for their beliefs and ways of life, they converted to Islam and being Ottoman subjects. There, is the root of most problems. Albanians are viewed as traitors, turncoats, converts, like Bosniaks in BiH. You gave up your religious beliefs for benefits, you converted for favors. What can one think of people like these? In any case, Albanians have historically sold out to the power of the moment - be it Ottoman, Nazi Germany, or now the Western powers. But, history will repeat itself, I guarantee it, and the Albanci will once again be left high and dry with no friends. And then what? Engineer, the League of Prizren was a modern day KLA, they tried to take land by force, but were slapped down. The Congress of Berlin put them in their place. Albanians trying to steal serbian land in KiM is nothing new - Albanians have been trying to steal it for 100's of years now. But, as always, you will fail.

pot, kettle, black

pre 12 godina

REF: 10 BELGRADE 29; 10 PODGORICA 25; 09 BELGRADE 212
09 BELGRADE 469

CLASSIFIED BY: Mary Warlick, Ambassador, State, EXEC; REASON: 1.4(B),
(D)

Summary

-------



1. (C) Serbian efforts to crack down on narcotics trafficking and
organized crime have led to several arrests, including in the
Operation Balkan Warrior case, which began with Serbian cooperation
in seizing two tons of cocaine in October 2009. Montenegrin-born
organized crime figure Darko Saric has been implicated in the case,
but cooperation between Montenegro and Serbia has faltered as both
sides have traded accusations that there is no will to see the case
through. The case became further complicated with press
allegations of high-level Serbian Interior Ministry links to Saric.
Our police contacts tell us there is some truth to the rumors and
they are seeing signs of political interference.(...)

7. (SBU) Meanwhile, the local media has speculated that there were
leaks in the investigation and possible ties between Interior
Minister Dacic's staff and Saric.(...)

http://leaks.hohesc.us/?view=10BELGRADE35

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Engineer, I am not claiming that there is no drug trafficking going on in Serbia, and that it does not have its share of mafias. I am say that the drug route starting in Afghanistan goes through Turkey, Albania and Kosovo. It obviously has to go there first, before it can move North through Serbia. As for my hate for Albanians, it is not hate, just a dislike. Because I consider your people to be land thieves, that came in over the borders from Albania and stole Serbia soil. You have been trying to steal Serbian land since the League of Prizren, and before. And all your Illyrian mumbo jumbo is just that, Albanian folk tales.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 15:42)

First League of Prizeren was set to escape Othoman rule as there where no Serbian land at all so learn facts first. Land theft in your mind for us land protection, they where not under Serbian Rule for 500 years then. Also same logic then Serbian Land theft in Vojvodina so no reason for you to be talking about theft as both sides have their arguments.

Second about Dacic I dont need to change his nick name as its perfectly fitting and if you read B92 in Serbian you se what Serbs call him as well nick names you do not change by day.

I have invested in Kosovo and I am doing my part I have 22employes not and its growing, true Kosovo needs more investments and it wil get in time and hopefully we will clean hose and get rid of corrupt politicians.

As per people coming to this forum and worrying about Dacic its nothing wrong if you dont not understand and some right wing people from both camps do not see it, it does not mean all should listen to your hatfull view of situation. Regardless what happens we will live side by side for many years and have to continue to do so, do business etc.

I told you above today Vojvodina is 90% Serbs so it belongs to them and Kosovo is 95% K-Albanian so it belongs to them ( also Hungarians and Serbs as minorities) [DO you consider your self a thief as Vojvodina never belonged to you before WWI] I said it many times if Germans and French who have been fighting for longer than us can learn to coexist we sure can as well.

As per ancient history I do read about it but just as that history have red books from both camps but maybe because I am an Engineer and like to solve problems I concentrate in now I do not care if Serbs came in 7th Cent. or before I do not care who lived where during Roman empire .... I tend to concentrate in the now.

I wish we could meet one day and have a drink I promise you will see we are people just like you we do not eat children and we like whats best for our family just like you. I have never hated Serbs and never will even though during Milosevic time we were mistreated but also Serbs them selves did suffer under that monster, he is the worst thing ever to have happened to Serbia in last 50 years.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Engineer, let's not be stupid, here. Serbians fought the Turks in 1389 on Kosovo soil. Yes, they lost to an overpowering Ottoman force, but did not mean that Serbs lost their land - they had it occupied by the Turks. As for Albanians, I have no idea where you guys came into the picture. All I know is that Albanians kept showing up, but instead of fighting for their beliefs and ways of life, they converted to Islam and being Ottoman subjects. There, is the root of most problems. Albanians are viewed as traitors, turncoats, converts, like Bosniaks in BiH. You gave up your religious beliefs for benefits, you converted for favors. What can one think of people like these? In any case, Albanians have historically sold out to the power of the moment - be it Ottoman, Nazi Germany, or now the Western powers. But, history will repeat itself, I guarantee it, and the Albanci will once again be left high and dry with no friends. And then what? Engineer, the League of Prizren was a modern day KLA, they tried to take land by force, but were slapped down. The Congress of Berlin put them in their place. Albanians trying to steal serbian land in KiM is nothing new - Albanians have been trying to steal it for 100's of years now. But, as always, you will fail.
(ecoman, 7 April 2012 20:31)

Ok So you fought a battle that you lost so now you claim the land something you did not own for 500 years oki do.

You did not answer where did you get Vojvodina , tried in Croatia you got you kicked down, tried in Bosnia somwhat got something there ( through genocide) tried in Kosovo you have 150K Serbs there and dying.

Good luck for now we will keep it lets talk once you get it back if you can, for now we will keep doing our thing as we are both living in America hope you go back home and help as I am helping my birth country.

Just answer me About Vojvodina if you have an answer.