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Thursday, 05.04.2012.

14:45

Remains of Serbs murdered in Kosovo handed over

The remains of four Serbs, kidnapped and murdered in 1999 by ethnic Albanian terrorists, have been handed over to their families on Thursday.

Izvor: Tanjug

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ida

pre 12 godina

The didn't give the names or any information on these people - where in Kosovo were they from, were there any women, were they elderly...Because it is said that it was the younger ones which were more likely to get chopped up for their organs.
And why did it take almost 13 years to turn the bodies over.

The Illyrian Idiot

pre 12 godina

Everyone always considers Serbs Euro Trash anyway in most places.
(USA United States of Albania, 5 April 2012 22:34)

Then why are more people going to Serbia? When people think of Serbia they think of someone like Nole. Sadly when people think of Albanians they think of someone like Borat. Only less funny and likeable.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

You need to understand that we would not let that happen again.
(MikeC, 5 April 2012 21:09)

Perfect! I'm glad to hear that. Every country in this world is entitled to their security. The best way to defend yourselves is to keep your soldiers in Serbia protecting Serbian soil and not 150 meters into Kosova's territory kidnapping KPS policeman for show and tell so Ivica "watermelon head" Dacic can get re-elected. Trust me, Albanians would love to forget about Serbia and not think about another Serb ever again, but Serbia just can't stop meddling in the affairs of the independent country of Kosova. Serbia causes trouble in Republica Srpska. Serbia causes trouble in Montenegro.If you cant play nicely with the kids on your block then you have to go sit on the sidelines like you are now. KFOR already commented on the border incident and stated that Serbia made an incursion. The world NEVER forgets "Mike C". The world will ALWAYS remember Serbia for the rules they break rather than the propaganda that they pump out so readily. Serbs aren't fooling anybody. Everyone always considers Serbs Euro Trash anyway in most places.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

USA United States of Albania

Draza Mihajlovic was considered a cetnik warcriminal at first. However, Winston Churchill later said that one of the biggest misstakes he did during WW2 was to give his support for Tito and his communist partizans. You can read all about that in the book "Shadows of the mountain" by Marcia Christoff Kurapovna.

If you think Ratko Mladic is a warcriminal then so is Franjo Tudman, Mate Boban, Alija Izetbegovic, Ante Gotovina, Hasim Thaci, Ramush Haradinaj and all other albanians guilty of war crimes against serbs and even their own. To you all serbs are war criminals, to me those that fought for the freedom of serbs from muslim rule are heroes. It's always sad when people die, but war is war. I never hear croats or albanians complain about the 700 000 serbs who died in concentration camps during WW2. Albanians, croats and bosnjaks joinded the nazies and tried to exterminate the serbs. You need to understand that we would not let that happen again.

nv

pre 12 godina

glenn, good point. that being said, people like milosevic, karadzic and mladic have been convicted by the media, but not by the courts, as you like to point out. so for all those people who like to use media as proof please learn the ways of the western laws.
no need to point fingers as you've already written down your ignorance, and/or bias.
you may believe something, and an inditment may be speculative but it is not a conviction and that is when and only when one can be called criminal, killer, terrorist etc. (and even courts get things wrong sometimes, but alas this is the best imperfect system we have)

Engineer

pre 12 godina

And what happened to Mladic and Karadzic? Yes, they are in the Hague. What happened to the Albanian terrorists that killed innocent civilians? Nothing,...Yet. So, instead of laughing out loud like a teenage girl, maybe you should help arrest people whom murder other people.
(Daniel, 5 April 2012 16:21)

Daniel your statement is not quiet correct:

1. There are K-Albanians in Hague, so its not like no one is punished they are going through court proceedings.
2. Tell me of any K-Albanians that have warrant for arrest by Hague and they are still at large the Answer is 0 ZERO!!!

I am not saying others should not go to jail for crimes however they need to be asked for or bring some proof.

On the other hand -> Mladic and Karadic where hiding in Serbia ( some say Serbian Army and Church protected them) but thats just here say so this is a different story all together they awaited their arrest for 17 years so lets wait and see maybe Kosovo will arrest theirs in 15years if there is a request by Hague not just request by Serbia not to feel left out.

Glenn

pre 12 godina

All who committed atrocities before, during, or after the war should be tried, convicted, and punished. I hope that we can all agree on at least this. It is good that they are finally being properly buried, and hopefully this will bring at least some closure to their families and loved ones.

Having said that, I do think that the wording of this headline and article came across as being biased against Albanians. Obviously the people whose remains were transferred were dead, and undoubtedly they were victims of the conflict in 1999, but it should be courts (not the media) who decide whether they were "murdered" and if so, if it was the action of "terrorists," since both of these words have very specific meanings and using them improperly is merely inciting more violence.

mick

pre 12 godina

@BT
Mladic was a General! So a army officer
Karadzic was a politician!

In your eyes they maybe terrorist but for others they are heroes!

terrorism means:the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
Those two where protecting their people and not for the power like the other ethnic groups in former YU!!

Well in your Kosovo government are still some (former) terrorist, you should sweep them out!

Daniel

pre 12 godina

" Albanian terrorists " lol the biggest terrorist is Ratko Mladic and Radovan karadzic and the world knows that.
(BT, 5 April 2012 15:22)
And what happened to Mladic and Karadzic? Yes, they are in the Hague. What happened to the Albanian terrorists that killed innocent civilians? Nothing,...Yet. So, instead of laughing out loud like a teenage girl, maybe you should help arrest people whom murder other people.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

Bringing up Mladic, Karadzic, and Milosevic is deflecting the issue at hand. It's a known tactic of the weak at mind. Focus on the issue at hand. Those three Serbs are either in prison or dead. Others need to be brought to justice, including Albanians. That's a fact.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived. (MikeC, 5 April 2012 15:46)

Why "personally"? He IS definitely one of most prominent Serbs (well the civilized world would use the adjective "infamous"). Bosnia was a devastating defeat for Serbs and the RS genocide entity can be controlled. Worse for you that people like him were the primary reason why in Croatia and Kosovo it ended much more uglier for you

EA

pre 12 godina

"Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived.
(MikeC, 5 April 2012 15:46)

Thanks MikeC,

What does Peggy, Ratko, Zoran, Jovanovic think about the above....?

It will make our understanding better....)))

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived. Without people like Ratko Mladic, serbs in Bosnia would suffer the same hell as serbs in Kosovo. Long live Republika Srpska!
Imagine that more countries recognized the reality in Bosnia then the "reality" in Kosovo.
(MikeC, 5 April 2012 15:46)

MikeC - The fact that you support a war criminal being tried in an impartial international tribunal says a lot about you. There's not much more to say. Supporting him is much the same as people who cried for Hitler and the rest of his goons when they went on trial after WWII. However, Serbia as a nation can only hope that people that think like you never EVER fill any positions of public office in this lifetime. So go back to your Ratko Mladic hero's shrine that you pray at everyday and leave everyone else alone.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Oh but Albos say they are the victims. These people make me sick.

And BT, I'm glad you find this something to laugh about. Never anything better to do other than point the finger at someone else.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Albanian terrorists " lol the biggest terrorist is Ratko Mladic and Radovan karadzic and the world knows that.
(BT, 5 April 2012 15:22)
==================================
The world is a big place so don't make those kinds of statements.
You must be thinking of Albania only.
Looks like you are trying to deny again. That's all you are good for.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"Albanian terrorists " lol the biggest terrorist is Ratko Mladic and Radovan karadzic and the world knows that."

BT

This article is about albanian terrorists and not Ratko and Radovan.
Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived. Without people like Ratko Mladic, serbs in Bosnia would suffer the same hell as serbs in Kosovo. Long live Republika Srpska!
Imagine that more countries recognized the reality in Bosnia then the "reality" in Kosovo.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Oh but Albos say they are the victims. These people make me sick.

And BT, I'm glad you find this something to laugh about. Never anything better to do other than point the finger at someone else.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Albanian terrorists " lol the biggest terrorist is Ratko Mladic and Radovan karadzic and the world knows that.
(BT, 5 April 2012 15:22)
==================================
The world is a big place so don't make those kinds of statements.
You must be thinking of Albania only.
Looks like you are trying to deny again. That's all you are good for.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"Albanian terrorists " lol the biggest terrorist is Ratko Mladic and Radovan karadzic and the world knows that."

BT

This article is about albanian terrorists and not Ratko and Radovan.
Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived. Without people like Ratko Mladic, serbs in Bosnia would suffer the same hell as serbs in Kosovo. Long live Republika Srpska!
Imagine that more countries recognized the reality in Bosnia then the "reality" in Kosovo.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

" Albanian terrorists " lol the biggest terrorist is Ratko Mladic and Radovan karadzic and the world knows that.
(BT, 5 April 2012 15:22)
And what happened to Mladic and Karadzic? Yes, they are in the Hague. What happened to the Albanian terrorists that killed innocent civilians? Nothing,...Yet. So, instead of laughing out loud like a teenage girl, maybe you should help arrest people whom murder other people.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

Bringing up Mladic, Karadzic, and Milosevic is deflecting the issue at hand. It's a known tactic of the weak at mind. Focus on the issue at hand. Those three Serbs are either in prison or dead. Others need to be brought to justice, including Albanians. That's a fact.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

USA United States of Albania

Draza Mihajlovic was considered a cetnik warcriminal at first. However, Winston Churchill later said that one of the biggest misstakes he did during WW2 was to give his support for Tito and his communist partizans. You can read all about that in the book "Shadows of the mountain" by Marcia Christoff Kurapovna.

If you think Ratko Mladic is a warcriminal then so is Franjo Tudman, Mate Boban, Alija Izetbegovic, Ante Gotovina, Hasim Thaci, Ramush Haradinaj and all other albanians guilty of war crimes against serbs and even their own. To you all serbs are war criminals, to me those that fought for the freedom of serbs from muslim rule are heroes. It's always sad when people die, but war is war. I never hear croats or albanians complain about the 700 000 serbs who died in concentration camps during WW2. Albanians, croats and bosnjaks joinded the nazies and tried to exterminate the serbs. You need to understand that we would not let that happen again.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived. Without people like Ratko Mladic, serbs in Bosnia would suffer the same hell as serbs in Kosovo. Long live Republika Srpska!
Imagine that more countries recognized the reality in Bosnia then the "reality" in Kosovo.
(MikeC, 5 April 2012 15:46)

MikeC - The fact that you support a war criminal being tried in an impartial international tribunal says a lot about you. There's not much more to say. Supporting him is much the same as people who cried for Hitler and the rest of his goons when they went on trial after WWII. However, Serbia as a nation can only hope that people that think like you never EVER fill any positions of public office in this lifetime. So go back to your Ratko Mladic hero's shrine that you pray at everyday and leave everyone else alone.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived. (MikeC, 5 April 2012 15:46)

Why "personally"? He IS definitely one of most prominent Serbs (well the civilized world would use the adjective "infamous"). Bosnia was a devastating defeat for Serbs and the RS genocide entity can be controlled. Worse for you that people like him were the primary reason why in Croatia and Kosovo it ended much more uglier for you

nv

pre 12 godina

glenn, good point. that being said, people like milosevic, karadzic and mladic have been convicted by the media, but not by the courts, as you like to point out. so for all those people who like to use media as proof please learn the ways of the western laws.
no need to point fingers as you've already written down your ignorance, and/or bias.
you may believe something, and an inditment may be speculative but it is not a conviction and that is when and only when one can be called criminal, killer, terrorist etc. (and even courts get things wrong sometimes, but alas this is the best imperfect system we have)

EA

pre 12 godina

"Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived.
(MikeC, 5 April 2012 15:46)

Thanks MikeC,

What does Peggy, Ratko, Zoran, Jovanovic think about the above....?

It will make our understanding better....)))

Glenn

pre 12 godina

All who committed atrocities before, during, or after the war should be tried, convicted, and punished. I hope that we can all agree on at least this. It is good that they are finally being properly buried, and hopefully this will bring at least some closure to their families and loved ones.

Having said that, I do think that the wording of this headline and article came across as being biased against Albanians. Obviously the people whose remains were transferred were dead, and undoubtedly they were victims of the conflict in 1999, but it should be courts (not the media) who decide whether they were "murdered" and if so, if it was the action of "terrorists," since both of these words have very specific meanings and using them improperly is merely inciting more violence.

The Illyrian Idiot

pre 12 godina

Everyone always considers Serbs Euro Trash anyway in most places.
(USA United States of Albania, 5 April 2012 22:34)

Then why are more people going to Serbia? When people think of Serbia they think of someone like Nole. Sadly when people think of Albanians they think of someone like Borat. Only less funny and likeable.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

And what happened to Mladic and Karadzic? Yes, they are in the Hague. What happened to the Albanian terrorists that killed innocent civilians? Nothing,...Yet. So, instead of laughing out loud like a teenage girl, maybe you should help arrest people whom murder other people.
(Daniel, 5 April 2012 16:21)

Daniel your statement is not quiet correct:

1. There are K-Albanians in Hague, so its not like no one is punished they are going through court proceedings.
2. Tell me of any K-Albanians that have warrant for arrest by Hague and they are still at large the Answer is 0 ZERO!!!

I am not saying others should not go to jail for crimes however they need to be asked for or bring some proof.

On the other hand -> Mladic and Karadic where hiding in Serbia ( some say Serbian Army and Church protected them) but thats just here say so this is a different story all together they awaited their arrest for 17 years so lets wait and see maybe Kosovo will arrest theirs in 15years if there is a request by Hague not just request by Serbia not to feel left out.

mick

pre 12 godina

@BT
Mladic was a General! So a army officer
Karadzic was a politician!

In your eyes they maybe terrorist but for others they are heroes!

terrorism means:the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
Those two where protecting their people and not for the power like the other ethnic groups in former YU!!

Well in your Kosovo government are still some (former) terrorist, you should sweep them out!

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

You need to understand that we would not let that happen again.
(MikeC, 5 April 2012 21:09)

Perfect! I'm glad to hear that. Every country in this world is entitled to their security. The best way to defend yourselves is to keep your soldiers in Serbia protecting Serbian soil and not 150 meters into Kosova's territory kidnapping KPS policeman for show and tell so Ivica "watermelon head" Dacic can get re-elected. Trust me, Albanians would love to forget about Serbia and not think about another Serb ever again, but Serbia just can't stop meddling in the affairs of the independent country of Kosova. Serbia causes trouble in Republica Srpska. Serbia causes trouble in Montenegro.If you cant play nicely with the kids on your block then you have to go sit on the sidelines like you are now. KFOR already commented on the border incident and stated that Serbia made an incursion. The world NEVER forgets "Mike C". The world will ALWAYS remember Serbia for the rules they break rather than the propaganda that they pump out so readily. Serbs aren't fooling anybody. Everyone always considers Serbs Euro Trash anyway in most places.

ida

pre 12 godina

The didn't give the names or any information on these people - where in Kosovo were they from, were there any women, were they elderly...Because it is said that it was the younger ones which were more likely to get chopped up for their organs.
And why did it take almost 13 years to turn the bodies over.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived. Without people like Ratko Mladic, serbs in Bosnia would suffer the same hell as serbs in Kosovo. Long live Republika Srpska!
Imagine that more countries recognized the reality in Bosnia then the "reality" in Kosovo.
(MikeC, 5 April 2012 15:46)

MikeC - The fact that you support a war criminal being tried in an impartial international tribunal says a lot about you. There's not much more to say. Supporting him is much the same as people who cried for Hitler and the rest of his goons when they went on trial after WWII. However, Serbia as a nation can only hope that people that think like you never EVER fill any positions of public office in this lifetime. So go back to your Ratko Mladic hero's shrine that you pray at everyday and leave everyone else alone.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived. (MikeC, 5 April 2012 15:46)

Why "personally"? He IS definitely one of most prominent Serbs (well the civilized world would use the adjective "infamous"). Bosnia was a devastating defeat for Serbs and the RS genocide entity can be controlled. Worse for you that people like him were the primary reason why in Croatia and Kosovo it ended much more uglier for you

EA

pre 12 godina

"Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived.
(MikeC, 5 April 2012 15:46)

Thanks MikeC,

What does Peggy, Ratko, Zoran, Jovanovic think about the above....?

It will make our understanding better....)))

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Albanian terrorists " lol the biggest terrorist is Ratko Mladic and Radovan karadzic and the world knows that.
(BT, 5 April 2012 15:22)
==================================
The world is a big place so don't make those kinds of statements.
You must be thinking of Albania only.
Looks like you are trying to deny again. That's all you are good for.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"Albanian terrorists " lol the biggest terrorist is Ratko Mladic and Radovan karadzic and the world knows that."

BT

This article is about albanian terrorists and not Ratko and Radovan.
Personally Ratko Mladic is one of the most prominent serbs that ever lived. Without people like Ratko Mladic, serbs in Bosnia would suffer the same hell as serbs in Kosovo. Long live Republika Srpska!
Imagine that more countries recognized the reality in Bosnia then the "reality" in Kosovo.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Oh but Albos say they are the victims. These people make me sick.

And BT, I'm glad you find this something to laugh about. Never anything better to do other than point the finger at someone else.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

You need to understand that we would not let that happen again.
(MikeC, 5 April 2012 21:09)

Perfect! I'm glad to hear that. Every country in this world is entitled to their security. The best way to defend yourselves is to keep your soldiers in Serbia protecting Serbian soil and not 150 meters into Kosova's territory kidnapping KPS policeman for show and tell so Ivica "watermelon head" Dacic can get re-elected. Trust me, Albanians would love to forget about Serbia and not think about another Serb ever again, but Serbia just can't stop meddling in the affairs of the independent country of Kosova. Serbia causes trouble in Republica Srpska. Serbia causes trouble in Montenegro.If you cant play nicely with the kids on your block then you have to go sit on the sidelines like you are now. KFOR already commented on the border incident and stated that Serbia made an incursion. The world NEVER forgets "Mike C". The world will ALWAYS remember Serbia for the rules they break rather than the propaganda that they pump out so readily. Serbs aren't fooling anybody. Everyone always considers Serbs Euro Trash anyway in most places.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

" Albanian terrorists " lol the biggest terrorist is Ratko Mladic and Radovan karadzic and the world knows that.
(BT, 5 April 2012 15:22)
And what happened to Mladic and Karadzic? Yes, they are in the Hague. What happened to the Albanian terrorists that killed innocent civilians? Nothing,...Yet. So, instead of laughing out loud like a teenage girl, maybe you should help arrest people whom murder other people.

mick

pre 12 godina

@BT
Mladic was a General! So a army officer
Karadzic was a politician!

In your eyes they maybe terrorist but for others they are heroes!

terrorism means:the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
Those two where protecting their people and not for the power like the other ethnic groups in former YU!!

Well in your Kosovo government are still some (former) terrorist, you should sweep them out!

Daniel

pre 12 godina

Bringing up Mladic, Karadzic, and Milosevic is deflecting the issue at hand. It's a known tactic of the weak at mind. Focus on the issue at hand. Those three Serbs are either in prison or dead. Others need to be brought to justice, including Albanians. That's a fact.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

And what happened to Mladic and Karadzic? Yes, they are in the Hague. What happened to the Albanian terrorists that killed innocent civilians? Nothing,...Yet. So, instead of laughing out loud like a teenage girl, maybe you should help arrest people whom murder other people.
(Daniel, 5 April 2012 16:21)

Daniel your statement is not quiet correct:

1. There are K-Albanians in Hague, so its not like no one is punished they are going through court proceedings.
2. Tell me of any K-Albanians that have warrant for arrest by Hague and they are still at large the Answer is 0 ZERO!!!

I am not saying others should not go to jail for crimes however they need to be asked for or bring some proof.

On the other hand -> Mladic and Karadic where hiding in Serbia ( some say Serbian Army and Church protected them) but thats just here say so this is a different story all together they awaited their arrest for 17 years so lets wait and see maybe Kosovo will arrest theirs in 15years if there is a request by Hague not just request by Serbia not to feel left out.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

USA United States of Albania

Draza Mihajlovic was considered a cetnik warcriminal at first. However, Winston Churchill later said that one of the biggest misstakes he did during WW2 was to give his support for Tito and his communist partizans. You can read all about that in the book "Shadows of the mountain" by Marcia Christoff Kurapovna.

If you think Ratko Mladic is a warcriminal then so is Franjo Tudman, Mate Boban, Alija Izetbegovic, Ante Gotovina, Hasim Thaci, Ramush Haradinaj and all other albanians guilty of war crimes against serbs and even their own. To you all serbs are war criminals, to me those that fought for the freedom of serbs from muslim rule are heroes. It's always sad when people die, but war is war. I never hear croats or albanians complain about the 700 000 serbs who died in concentration camps during WW2. Albanians, croats and bosnjaks joinded the nazies and tried to exterminate the serbs. You need to understand that we would not let that happen again.

Glenn

pre 12 godina

All who committed atrocities before, during, or after the war should be tried, convicted, and punished. I hope that we can all agree on at least this. It is good that they are finally being properly buried, and hopefully this will bring at least some closure to their families and loved ones.

Having said that, I do think that the wording of this headline and article came across as being biased against Albanians. Obviously the people whose remains were transferred were dead, and undoubtedly they were victims of the conflict in 1999, but it should be courts (not the media) who decide whether they were "murdered" and if so, if it was the action of "terrorists," since both of these words have very specific meanings and using them improperly is merely inciting more violence.

The Illyrian Idiot

pre 12 godina

Everyone always considers Serbs Euro Trash anyway in most places.
(USA United States of Albania, 5 April 2012 22:34)

Then why are more people going to Serbia? When people think of Serbia they think of someone like Nole. Sadly when people think of Albanians they think of someone like Borat. Only less funny and likeable.

ida

pre 12 godina

The didn't give the names or any information on these people - where in Kosovo were they from, were there any women, were they elderly...Because it is said that it was the younger ones which were more likely to get chopped up for their organs.
And why did it take almost 13 years to turn the bodies over.

nv

pre 12 godina

glenn, good point. that being said, people like milosevic, karadzic and mladic have been convicted by the media, but not by the courts, as you like to point out. so for all those people who like to use media as proof please learn the ways of the western laws.
no need to point fingers as you've already written down your ignorance, and/or bias.
you may believe something, and an inditment may be speculative but it is not a conviction and that is when and only when one can be called criminal, killer, terrorist etc. (and even courts get things wrong sometimes, but alas this is the best imperfect system we have)