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Sunday, 01.04.2012.

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KPS officers were kidnapped, Kosovo IM claims

The Kosovo government and President Atifete Jahjaga have strongly condemned the arrest of two Kosovo police (KPS) officers at the administrative line Saturday.

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robert1899

pre 12 godina

Prishtina should ask Brussels to issue an arrest warrant by Interpol for Ivica Dacic.
(Pejoni, 1 April 2012 14:34)

Pejoni, why doesn't pristina issue its own arrest warrant through Interpol. Oh yes, I forgot you have to be a real country in order to do that.

ben

pre 12 godina

The international community is already upset with this move. In their communicates they condemn both sides but principally the serbs.

(Italian annalist, 1 April 2012 20:24)

The international community's reaction is a SCANDAL.

When Serbia did the "reciprocal" arrests the international community should have condemned that shameful act with force and not saying ambiguous words. "Reciprocal arrests" was a total scandal, violation of international law, human right and all civilized norms of behavior for one democratic state moreover EU candidate member and of all last deals that were brokered by EU. It was EU and Fule's weak and shameful reaction that gave green light to this armed aggression of Serbia.

It was exactly their biased and shameful reaction that brought the things to escalate. And it is the international community that will bear the greats part of the responsibility for this.

I simply don't understand why Prishtina instead of exposing this shameful position of the international community is doing everything to proctect them. It doesn't say not even a single word of criticism. It was Dacic that was complaining on international community- even after his "reciprocal arrests". THIS IS SCANDAL. Stefan Fule's absence even to comment on "reciprocal arrests" will remain in the history as how weak and ambiguous position of EU allowed to escalate and destabilize the region.

a New Day

pre 12 godina

So if I understand correctly the Serbian police force strolled across the border, a border that is monitored by internationals and the kps. From there they snuck up upon two kps officer, who were dealing with serious landscaping concerns without a standard landscapers tool box. Perhaps there lies the problem. It is clearly a break on international law to landscape without proper landscaping equipment (or does that sound rather far fetched?)
(Joey, 1 April 2012 20:18
Well yes if you phrase it that way. But interject reality. Most Serbs in the north are still using alternate roads to cross back and forth from Kosovo to Serbia so how much of the actual border is guarded by KPS and internationals. Would you say 5% or less?

I really don't know who is right or wrong whether they were on the northern side or the southern side. What is apparent this was a political arrest.
My questions are
1. How can they say it was a violation of Kumanovo as KPS was not a part of Kumanovo nor even formed when it was written.
2. My impression is that there should not be any Gendarmarine encampments within 5 km of the border, is that not what the agreement says?

Leonardo de Texas

pre 12 godina

It is clear that this move of Serbian Gov is foolish, childish and will turn back as a boomerang politically speaking.
This move will make happy some nationalists and maybe will help Dacic and others in the upcoming elections.
What is clear is that the Albanian version looks the one more realistic (Officers had meetings with their parents and their version of story was told to these parents. They told also that are not mistreated in prison).
And now let's go to the facts:
1 - The officers had their uniforms on (it is crazy to go into Serbian territory with uniforms)
2 - The officers had their normal equipment with them pistol as any Police officer in the world and a rifle because bord officers. So, no heavy equipment as someone is saying.
3 - The 13 Serbian elite officers were patrolling the border?! And they were at this precise location with their professional equipments?! What a coincidence!

Conclusion: It is clear that this is more for internal use with photos, videos etc but the result is that they are humiliating the Albanian officers the Kosovo gouvernement and the Kosovo police. It is clear that soon the Albanians will make their move in the same way because they will not forget it. Revenge will be made for sure soon or late. Maybe showing some Serbian police officers that piss oneself. Albanian nationalists will be happy and some Serbian nationalists will be upset. Balkans.

Political conclusion: The international community is already upset with this move. In their communicates they condemn both sides but principally the serbs. This was stupid politically speaking. Whoever is the idiot that organised this, made a huge autogol.
(Italian annalist, 1 April 2012 20:24)


The word is out that it was Giuseppe here who organized the whole nine,but he ain't nobody's idiot, he's this here old geezer's and Snake's chief advisor on Human Resources and Internal Affairs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np4dddR_Is0

sj

pre 12 godina

If true, how can you arrest your own officer for jay walking???
(Agim Kelmendi, 1 April 2012 21:35)

The Serbian MUP recently arrested several police officers over some involvement in criminal activity so why can’t they arrest the so called Kosovo police? What are they appointed from heaven?

Denis Srb

pre 12 godina

"And last but not least, turn our officers back, Srbos! At once!"
(Berk., 1 April 2012 13:19)

ok please stop your gonna get me in trouble at work for laughing too much hahahahaaaa too funny berk. "AT ONCE!" lmfaooo
berk.. why dont you do something about it other then typing?


"If true, how can you arrest your own officer for jay walking???"
(Agim Kelmendi, 1 April 2012 21:35)

Simple.. they are not real cops. And they broke the law.

iliri

pre 12 godina

prison is for men. juridically it is impossible
to detain them for an extended time,
in few days the kosovars will be returned home,
these incidents are good for albania,
serbs don t realise that in such hard economical times, even albania,
which in the past was indiferent toward serbian kosovar conflict is becoming more aware
of patriotic feelings, now flags are becoming fashionable and displayed every where, contrary to what many might think, prior to kosovo war, serbs were notseen as enemies around here, serbs are very, very stuborn, if they go on like this , they might help in creating the so feared greater albania, and albania albanians might get enthusiastic about this as well, just for the sake of revolutions,

Kreshnik

pre 12 godina

Frankly, I am in awe of how well Serbia plays the 'game'. I mean, not even a fortnight has passed since they got EU candidate status and they pull this stunt. Not to mention Serbia is reaping all the benefits of 'owning' Kosovo (about EUR 500 million of annual trade) with none of the obligations (ie no money spent for economic development, pensions etc)

es_zet_pe

pre 12 godina

All so called "Kosovo Police" is a criminal organization of illegal para-state, with Ms. Jahjaga on first place. All members of "Kosovo Police" should be arrested and trialed by Serbian authorities.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Dooh! That's impossible, because there aren't two countries involved, only one country (Serbia) and an entity (called Kosovo*)


(J.Oker, 1 April 2012 18:02)

If true, how can you arrest your own officer for jay walking???

Italian annalist

pre 12 godina

It is clear that this move of Serbian Gov is foolish, childish and will turn back as a boomerang politically speaking.
This move will make happy some nationalists and maybe will help Dacic and others in the upcoming elections.
What is clear is that the Albanian version looks the one more realistic (Officers had meetings with their parents and their version of story was told to these parents. They told also that are not mistreated in prison).
And now let's go to the facts:
1 - The officers had their uniforms on (it is crazy to go into Serbian territory with uniforms)
2 - The officers had their normal equipment with them pistol as any Police officer in the world and a rifle because bord officers. So, no heavy equipment as someone is saying.
3 - The 13 Serbian elite officers were patrolling the border?! And they were at this precise location with their professional equipments?! What a coincidence!

Conclusion: It is clear that this is more for internal use with photos, videos etc but the result is that they are humiliating the Albanian officers the Kosovo gouvernement and the Kosovo police. It is clear that soon the Albanians will make their move in the same way because they will not forget it. Revenge will be made for sure soon or late. Maybe showing some Serbian police officers that piss oneself. Albanian nationalists will be happy and some Serbian nationalists will be upset. Balkans.

Political conclusion: The international community is already upset with this move. In their communicates they condemn both sides but principally the serbs. This was stupid politically speaking. Whoever is the idiot that organised this, made a huge autogol.

Joey

pre 12 godina

So if I understand correctly the Serbian police force strolled across the border, a border that is monitored by internationals and the kps. From there they snuck up upon two kps officer, who were dealing with serious landscaping concerns without a standard landscapers tool box. Perhaps there lies the problem. It is clearly a break on international law to landscape without proper landscaping equipment (or does that sound rather far fetched?)

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

This act questions relations between the two countries,” the Kosovo government said in a release.

Dooh! That's impossible, because there aren't two countries involved, only one country (Serbia) and an entity (called Kosovo*)

*=without prejudice to the status

EA

pre 12 godina

Do your cops always walk around so heavily armed as if they were going to war?

(Peggy, 1 April 2012 15:13)

Peggy,

Can you see what the Serbian gendarmerie/police are holding in their arms? They even have got their faces covered.....If you think they are holding toy guns they I would suggest you to see the optitian.

Let's wait for the true events....as far as I am aware KFOR has started an investigation. If the Kosovo policement have breached the rules of engagement that should be punished proportianately as it should any Serbian breaching the law in Kosovo.

"if they have been kidnapped it would be clear that Serbia is a gangster state."

Dacic might aim to score some political score on election "look how strong/tough we are". But he will be shooting himself in the foot or both feet if you like.

Let's wait what the investigation will say....

And regarding a question to me by one of the Serbian commentators quite new at B92 "how Bajram Rexhepi knows the event.

That was a very silly question. Is the same as asking how Dadic knows how the assumed kidnapping happened...

Of course Rexhepi is in a position te gather information through the chain of command. If two Kosovo policement have broken the rule of engagement I am preatty sure it would have been much easier for Rexhepi to aknowledge the fact and end of the story.

So the burden of probabilities is that the incident is provoked by Serbia thinking to humiliate the Kosovo police and institution kind of showing that "we are in charge" and "can do everything we like". Saying that I am still patient enough and not pre-judge any outcome.

really?

pre 12 godina

Removing tree trunks? Really? With what equipment were they removing tree trunks? Bare hands and AK-74s? REally? Taking it where? Seems like they were captured/arrested in the middle of a freaking forest...who needs to remove tree trunks in the middle of a forest, who cares? And if that's true, are you telling me two men with bare hands are wandering around a forest looking to move tree trunks from here to there without a chain saw, without an axe, or saw? The whole story is a lie per our albanian orcs..

Amusing still, these two criminals were armed...why not go down in glory as you die fighting for your albanian cause...killing serbs...isn't that what all our albo orc commentators preach and advocate? Yet when the rubber hits the road, your police/army whatever you call them choose to surrender without firing a shot.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Of course they were kidnapped. Just like those 5 Serb MUPs and Serb postal workers. What Albanians think is justified when it's done by them is a crime against humanity when it's done to them. Even if this entire stunt was for nothing else than to get an idiotic statement from Pristina, Dacic succeeded. Thaci, Rexhepi, or Jahijaga are known for their predictable simplicity. They either cry foul or call for war :)

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Who knows what the truth is anymore when anything involves the Kosovo Albanians and the US/EU. The Racak incident in Kosovo in 1999, preceding the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia, was a staged massacre by the above, in an attempt to gain world sympathy for Kosovo Albanians, and an excuse for NATO to start bombing. In October 2008, Helena Ranta, the Finnish pathologist who had conducted the forensic examination on the Račak casualties, stated that she had been pressured to modify the contents of her report, both by the Finnish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and by William Walker, the head of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) Kosovo Verification Mission, in order to make more explicit the role of Serb troops in the incident. She refused to do so. So as I said, anything is possible when it comes to the moral less West, and the Kosovo Albanians.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Sorry, Mendo, but I do not see Dacic as any worse than Thaci. In fact I see Thaci as worse, because he was directly involved in heinous crimes against kidnapped civilians. You, and other Albanians, may look at Thaci as some sort of hero, but in reality he is a mafia king pin in Kosovo, operating a criminal enterprise that would make the Gambino's look like pickpockets. Maybe once you replace this former terrorist, even listed by the US State Dept. as such, until they needed him, an Albanian Kosovo may begin to be looked at with some respect. Until then, the Newborn is a dirty black pit of crime and horror, drenched in swindles and lies.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Peggy, Zoran, Jovanovic, MikeC and all Serbian commentators here...

Are you ruling the above out? Very likely yes because of your fanatic views.
=================================

One Question for you. Do your cops always walk around so heavily armed as if they were going to war?
Perhaps it is you who is so desperate to rule any BS is because of your fanatic views.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

We know that the KLA deliberately proved the Serbian Authorities during the 1990s in order to give Serbia no alternative other than to respond with their Police.

They did to claim victim status with the story of bad Serbs and good Albanians, and the reason was to steal Serbian land.

We know that NATO and the Kosovo Albanians had to make the Kosovo Albanian People leave Kosovo, for the sake of the cameras, because the Conspiracy by NATO and the Kosovo Albanians was to steal Serbian land, and they needed International Sympathy.

The KLA and NATO were able to persuade the Kosovo Albanians to leave Kosovo, and the KLA promised to murder any Albanian that did not leave Kosovo, and NATO began bombing the Albanians to make them go along with this plan.

The Overwhelming majority of Kosovo Albanians wanted to steal Kosovo since their 1878 League of Prizren Declaration, but they were not prepared to leave Kosovo willingly to achieve this goal.

The America led NATO needed an excuse for why they Illegally and Immorally bombed Serbia, and the Kosovo Albanians were going to provide that after the events excuse, either willingly, or unwillingly by the KLA murderers and NATO murderers who made them leave Kosovo and destroyed their houses, and blamed it on Milosevic and the rest of Serbia.

It could be that a similar thing is happening here, with a situation being created with Anglo-America’s instruction, even as Anglo-America instructed the KLA in the 1990s.

The Albanians could have a recording of these KPS officers saying that they were clearing tree trunks, and this could have been recorded, and the areas claimed could have been photographs for tree trunks.

The alleged incident could have used 13 additional KPS officers who spoke the Serbian lines good enough to deceive the International Community.

The faked incident could even have been filmed from America satellites or the Albanian Police cars.

The Serbs were covered up and so this is very convenient if the incident was faked, and I am not saying what happened, because I do not know, and perhaps most of us will never know the ways of the devious.

This could have easily been faked with the approval of Tadic and the Kosovo Albanians in order to help the DS win the Election so that they can give away Kosovo, and Ivica Dacic may not be aware of any of this.

After this faked incident was recorded and filmed, the KPS officers went to Central Serbia illegally and were arrested by real Serbian Police, and Ivica Dacic may not know that this could be a possibly contrived incident by Tadic and Thaci to help each other.

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Ecoman

At least those people at the helm of Prishtina protected their doorstep when they fought Yugo/Serb Army. Look who is at the helm in Belgrad people like Mr Dacic who was Slobos right and left hand when all the mass killings/genocide, raping of womans and burning happened in 4 parts of Yugoslavia outside Serbia by the Serbs and the likes of Dacic.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Ben, maybe Albanian children know, but anyone with half a brain and an education, sees that your politicians are a seriously dishonest lot. For Christ's sake, look at who's at the helm in Pristina - there's nothing more to say.

ben

pre 12 godina

Rexhepi what you say even children’s know.

What you don't say is what worries me. Your border police control the border with Serbia as if it was bordering with Sweden or Norway. You should be more serious. Should I teach you about the Serbian hostility towards Kosova??? should I tell you that refusing of apologies for the 90s and 99 policies form Serbia what that means??? So why do you give equipment and engagement rules to your border police if they were patrolling border with Switzerland???

What Serbian MUP did yesterday is one more of their dirty cowards act. And KPS needs to take all measures not to fall in their trap. 13 of their elite units set trap to 2 border police and they have their HD cameras ready to film and take pictures and show the world how strong they are and that they can do to Kosova whatever they want but only because they are good they don't want to... but we can humiliate them and play with them...

So or KPS plays the same rules: when arrests Serbian MUP members as it did arrest 5 of them just few weeks ago and take the picture and humiliates them just as Serbian MUP is humiliating KPS or you should take all measures increase the number, equipment, rules of engagement of your border police and do not allow these cowards to do their show. Full stop. What are the counter measures you are taking??? Inform us about this?? EU/US are deafly silent in this case as they were for the “reciprocal” arrests of the 2 kosovar citizens. Have you contacted them?? Have you asked them to pronounce about these two cowards acts??? Stefan Fule refused to say even a word about the "reciprocal" arrest and give the green light to Serbia for the next show. What sanctions are they planning to undertake?? Tell us about this not about what we know.

P.S. no one should fall in the easy excuse it was Dacic'd plan. This is coming from Tadic and all highest Serbian offices. Firstly, you cannot do such repetitve actions alone as minister; secodnly not being even verbaly cirticized. It is planned and executed cowrd acts from highest offcials of Serbia.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Kidnapped (of course in Kosovo) and then abducted to Serbia? Things are getting more and more funny. Seems like Kosovo officials watch too much bad American movies to come up with a fabricated story like that. Do they really think anyone but some little kids might believe this absurd fairytale? :)

ecoman

pre 12 godina

The moment I read this story, I knew that the Albanians would say that their police were kidnapped. They are predictable, and do not have the dignity to say that maybe their police made a mistake, or God forbid, the truth. The Pristina authorities make themselves look even stupider, and more dishonest with these fabrications, because they were not at the scene, the event was not caught on video. What proof do they have of their absurd claim? In any case, let the internationals deal with their friends in Pristina - they made their beds, now sleep in them.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

“They got into a trap while they were removing tree trunks from the road they regularly patrol,” Rexhepi told Radio Television Kosova and added that “13 Serbian gendarmes surrounded and kidnapped them and then transferred them to Serbia”. Ah, how in the world would the Albanian minister know this? Was he/she there? Were they in contact with the Kosovo cops while they were being arrested? What total BS. The Albanian cops got caught doing something funny in central Serbia, where they shouldn't be, and Pristina does not have the honesty to say they got caught with their pants down. If these stories (from Pristina) were not so comical, they would be pathetic. Like all the suicides of key witnesses in Albanian war crimes cases.

EA

pre 12 godina

Kosovo Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi has said that the two KPS members were “kidnapped” while they were patrolling the area.

“They got into a trap while they were removing tree trunks from the road they regularly patrol,” Rexhepi told Radio Television Kosova and added that “13 Serbian gendarmes surrounded and kidnapped them and then transferred them to Serbia”.

Peggy, Zoran, Jovanovic, MikeC and all Serbian commentators here...

Are you ruling the above out? Very likely yes because of your fanatic views.

I would love the internationals including your beloved UNMIK to step in and contact the captured Kosovo Albanian policemen and get to the bottom of that issue.

If they have been kidnapped and I repeat IF THEY HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED...God save the Serbian interior minister....

Berk.

pre 12 godina

“They got into a trap while they were removing tree trunks from the road they regularly patrol,” Rexhepi told Radio Television Kosova and added that “13 Serbian gendarmes surrounded and kidnapped them and then transferred them to Serbia”.

The classic trap. KFOR must have been already notified that Serbs start with border incursions and abductions. Building barricades is already a new sport of them. It is time to play hardball.
Dacic promised that he will start an "arrest race" and yesterday he ignited it. Expect reciprocal echos! And last but not least, turn our officers back, Srbos! At once!

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"Are you ruling the above out? Very likely yes because of your fanatic views."

EA

I can only speak for myself and I'm not ruling anything out. However, you and other albanians are. You are taking for granted that these KPS officers are innocent. Perhaps they are innocent. Perhaps its all a missunderstanding. However, let the case take its course. And please don't give me all that crap about "they won't get a fair trail" etc etc.
Serbia is not run by Milosevic any more, even if you would like to think that that is the case. Besides, you and other albanians need to take a good and long look in the mirror. You ain't all that innocent. Deep down inside you know that too.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"This act questions relations between the two countries,” the Kosovo government said in a release."

I love that comment. What planet are these guys from? Kosovo is seen as a rebellious territory by Belgrade and not a country. These K-albanian politicians need help!

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"Are you ruling the above out? Very likely yes because of your fanatic views."

EA

I can only speak for myself and I'm not ruling anything out. However, you and other albanians are. You are taking for granted that these KPS officers are innocent. Perhaps they are innocent. Perhaps its all a missunderstanding. However, let the case take its course. And please don't give me all that crap about "they won't get a fair trail" etc etc.
Serbia is not run by Milosevic any more, even if you would like to think that that is the case. Besides, you and other albanians need to take a good and long look in the mirror. You ain't all that innocent. Deep down inside you know that too.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

“They got into a trap while they were removing tree trunks from the road they regularly patrol,” Rexhepi told Radio Television Kosova and added that “13 Serbian gendarmes surrounded and kidnapped them and then transferred them to Serbia”. Ah, how in the world would the Albanian minister know this? Was he/she there? Were they in contact with the Kosovo cops while they were being arrested? What total BS. The Albanian cops got caught doing something funny in central Serbia, where they shouldn't be, and Pristina does not have the honesty to say they got caught with their pants down. If these stories (from Pristina) were not so comical, they would be pathetic. Like all the suicides of key witnesses in Albanian war crimes cases.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"This act questions relations between the two countries,” the Kosovo government said in a release."

I love that comment. What planet are these guys from? Kosovo is seen as a rebellious territory by Belgrade and not a country. These K-albanian politicians need help!

ecoman

pre 12 godina

The moment I read this story, I knew that the Albanians would say that their police were kidnapped. They are predictable, and do not have the dignity to say that maybe their police made a mistake, or God forbid, the truth. The Pristina authorities make themselves look even stupider, and more dishonest with these fabrications, because they were not at the scene, the event was not caught on video. What proof do they have of their absurd claim? In any case, let the internationals deal with their friends in Pristina - they made their beds, now sleep in them.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Ben, maybe Albanian children know, but anyone with half a brain and an education, sees that your politicians are a seriously dishonest lot. For Christ's sake, look at who's at the helm in Pristina - there's nothing more to say.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Peggy, Zoran, Jovanovic, MikeC and all Serbian commentators here...

Are you ruling the above out? Very likely yes because of your fanatic views.
=================================

One Question for you. Do your cops always walk around so heavily armed as if they were going to war?
Perhaps it is you who is so desperate to rule any BS is because of your fanatic views.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Kidnapped (of course in Kosovo) and then abducted to Serbia? Things are getting more and more funny. Seems like Kosovo officials watch too much bad American movies to come up with a fabricated story like that. Do they really think anyone but some little kids might believe this absurd fairytale? :)

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Sorry, Mendo, but I do not see Dacic as any worse than Thaci. In fact I see Thaci as worse, because he was directly involved in heinous crimes against kidnapped civilians. You, and other Albanians, may look at Thaci as some sort of hero, but in reality he is a mafia king pin in Kosovo, operating a criminal enterprise that would make the Gambino's look like pickpockets. Maybe once you replace this former terrorist, even listed by the US State Dept. as such, until they needed him, an Albanian Kosovo may begin to be looked at with some respect. Until then, the Newborn is a dirty black pit of crime and horror, drenched in swindles and lies.

EA

pre 12 godina

Kosovo Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi has said that the two KPS members were “kidnapped” while they were patrolling the area.

“They got into a trap while they were removing tree trunks from the road they regularly patrol,” Rexhepi told Radio Television Kosova and added that “13 Serbian gendarmes surrounded and kidnapped them and then transferred them to Serbia”.

Peggy, Zoran, Jovanovic, MikeC and all Serbian commentators here...

Are you ruling the above out? Very likely yes because of your fanatic views.

I would love the internationals including your beloved UNMIK to step in and contact the captured Kosovo Albanian policemen and get to the bottom of that issue.

If they have been kidnapped and I repeat IF THEY HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED...God save the Serbian interior minister....

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Ecoman

At least those people at the helm of Prishtina protected their doorstep when they fought Yugo/Serb Army. Look who is at the helm in Belgrad people like Mr Dacic who was Slobos right and left hand when all the mass killings/genocide, raping of womans and burning happened in 4 parts of Yugoslavia outside Serbia by the Serbs and the likes of Dacic.

really?

pre 12 godina

Removing tree trunks? Really? With what equipment were they removing tree trunks? Bare hands and AK-74s? REally? Taking it where? Seems like they were captured/arrested in the middle of a freaking forest...who needs to remove tree trunks in the middle of a forest, who cares? And if that's true, are you telling me two men with bare hands are wandering around a forest looking to move tree trunks from here to there without a chain saw, without an axe, or saw? The whole story is a lie per our albanian orcs..

Amusing still, these two criminals were armed...why not go down in glory as you die fighting for your albanian cause...killing serbs...isn't that what all our albo orc commentators preach and advocate? Yet when the rubber hits the road, your police/army whatever you call them choose to surrender without firing a shot.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

“They got into a trap while they were removing tree trunks from the road they regularly patrol,” Rexhepi told Radio Television Kosova and added that “13 Serbian gendarmes surrounded and kidnapped them and then transferred them to Serbia”.

The classic trap. KFOR must have been already notified that Serbs start with border incursions and abductions. Building barricades is already a new sport of them. It is time to play hardball.
Dacic promised that he will start an "arrest race" and yesterday he ignited it. Expect reciprocal echos! And last but not least, turn our officers back, Srbos! At once!

ben

pre 12 godina

Rexhepi what you say even children’s know.

What you don't say is what worries me. Your border police control the border with Serbia as if it was bordering with Sweden or Norway. You should be more serious. Should I teach you about the Serbian hostility towards Kosova??? should I tell you that refusing of apologies for the 90s and 99 policies form Serbia what that means??? So why do you give equipment and engagement rules to your border police if they were patrolling border with Switzerland???

What Serbian MUP did yesterday is one more of their dirty cowards act. And KPS needs to take all measures not to fall in their trap. 13 of their elite units set trap to 2 border police and they have their HD cameras ready to film and take pictures and show the world how strong they are and that they can do to Kosova whatever they want but only because they are good they don't want to... but we can humiliate them and play with them...

So or KPS plays the same rules: when arrests Serbian MUP members as it did arrest 5 of them just few weeks ago and take the picture and humiliates them just as Serbian MUP is humiliating KPS or you should take all measures increase the number, equipment, rules of engagement of your border police and do not allow these cowards to do their show. Full stop. What are the counter measures you are taking??? Inform us about this?? EU/US are deafly silent in this case as they were for the “reciprocal” arrests of the 2 kosovar citizens. Have you contacted them?? Have you asked them to pronounce about these two cowards acts??? Stefan Fule refused to say even a word about the "reciprocal" arrest and give the green light to Serbia for the next show. What sanctions are they planning to undertake?? Tell us about this not about what we know.

P.S. no one should fall in the easy excuse it was Dacic'd plan. This is coming from Tadic and all highest Serbian offices. Firstly, you cannot do such repetitve actions alone as minister; secodnly not being even verbaly cirticized. It is planned and executed cowrd acts from highest offcials of Serbia.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

We know that the KLA deliberately proved the Serbian Authorities during the 1990s in order to give Serbia no alternative other than to respond with their Police.

They did to claim victim status with the story of bad Serbs and good Albanians, and the reason was to steal Serbian land.

We know that NATO and the Kosovo Albanians had to make the Kosovo Albanian People leave Kosovo, for the sake of the cameras, because the Conspiracy by NATO and the Kosovo Albanians was to steal Serbian land, and they needed International Sympathy.

The KLA and NATO were able to persuade the Kosovo Albanians to leave Kosovo, and the KLA promised to murder any Albanian that did not leave Kosovo, and NATO began bombing the Albanians to make them go along with this plan.

The Overwhelming majority of Kosovo Albanians wanted to steal Kosovo since their 1878 League of Prizren Declaration, but they were not prepared to leave Kosovo willingly to achieve this goal.

The America led NATO needed an excuse for why they Illegally and Immorally bombed Serbia, and the Kosovo Albanians were going to provide that after the events excuse, either willingly, or unwillingly by the KLA murderers and NATO murderers who made them leave Kosovo and destroyed their houses, and blamed it on Milosevic and the rest of Serbia.

It could be that a similar thing is happening here, with a situation being created with Anglo-America’s instruction, even as Anglo-America instructed the KLA in the 1990s.

The Albanians could have a recording of these KPS officers saying that they were clearing tree trunks, and this could have been recorded, and the areas claimed could have been photographs for tree trunks.

The alleged incident could have used 13 additional KPS officers who spoke the Serbian lines good enough to deceive the International Community.

The faked incident could even have been filmed from America satellites or the Albanian Police cars.

The Serbs were covered up and so this is very convenient if the incident was faked, and I am not saying what happened, because I do not know, and perhaps most of us will never know the ways of the devious.

This could have easily been faked with the approval of Tadic and the Kosovo Albanians in order to help the DS win the Election so that they can give away Kosovo, and Ivica Dacic may not be aware of any of this.

After this faked incident was recorded and filmed, the KPS officers went to Central Serbia illegally and were arrested by real Serbian Police, and Ivica Dacic may not know that this could be a possibly contrived incident by Tadic and Thaci to help each other.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Who knows what the truth is anymore when anything involves the Kosovo Albanians and the US/EU. The Racak incident in Kosovo in 1999, preceding the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia, was a staged massacre by the above, in an attempt to gain world sympathy for Kosovo Albanians, and an excuse for NATO to start bombing. In October 2008, Helena Ranta, the Finnish pathologist who had conducted the forensic examination on the Račak casualties, stated that she had been pressured to modify the contents of her report, both by the Finnish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and by William Walker, the head of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) Kosovo Verification Mission, in order to make more explicit the role of Serb troops in the incident. She refused to do so. So as I said, anything is possible when it comes to the moral less West, and the Kosovo Albanians.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

This act questions relations between the two countries,” the Kosovo government said in a release.

Dooh! That's impossible, because there aren't two countries involved, only one country (Serbia) and an entity (called Kosovo*)

*=without prejudice to the status

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Of course they were kidnapped. Just like those 5 Serb MUPs and Serb postal workers. What Albanians think is justified when it's done by them is a crime against humanity when it's done to them. Even if this entire stunt was for nothing else than to get an idiotic statement from Pristina, Dacic succeeded. Thaci, Rexhepi, or Jahijaga are known for their predictable simplicity. They either cry foul or call for war :)

EA

pre 12 godina

Do your cops always walk around so heavily armed as if they were going to war?

(Peggy, 1 April 2012 15:13)

Peggy,

Can you see what the Serbian gendarmerie/police are holding in their arms? They even have got their faces covered.....If you think they are holding toy guns they I would suggest you to see the optitian.

Let's wait for the true events....as far as I am aware KFOR has started an investigation. If the Kosovo policement have breached the rules of engagement that should be punished proportianately as it should any Serbian breaching the law in Kosovo.

"if they have been kidnapped it would be clear that Serbia is a gangster state."

Dacic might aim to score some political score on election "look how strong/tough we are". But he will be shooting himself in the foot or both feet if you like.

Let's wait what the investigation will say....

And regarding a question to me by one of the Serbian commentators quite new at B92 "how Bajram Rexhepi knows the event.

That was a very silly question. Is the same as asking how Dadic knows how the assumed kidnapping happened...

Of course Rexhepi is in a position te gather information through the chain of command. If two Kosovo policement have broken the rule of engagement I am preatty sure it would have been much easier for Rexhepi to aknowledge the fact and end of the story.

So the burden of probabilities is that the incident is provoked by Serbia thinking to humiliate the Kosovo police and institution kind of showing that "we are in charge" and "can do everything we like". Saying that I am still patient enough and not pre-judge any outcome.

Joey

pre 12 godina

So if I understand correctly the Serbian police force strolled across the border, a border that is monitored by internationals and the kps. From there they snuck up upon two kps officer, who were dealing with serious landscaping concerns without a standard landscapers tool box. Perhaps there lies the problem. It is clearly a break on international law to landscape without proper landscaping equipment (or does that sound rather far fetched?)

Italian annalist

pre 12 godina

It is clear that this move of Serbian Gov is foolish, childish and will turn back as a boomerang politically speaking.
This move will make happy some nationalists and maybe will help Dacic and others in the upcoming elections.
What is clear is that the Albanian version looks the one more realistic (Officers had meetings with their parents and their version of story was told to these parents. They told also that are not mistreated in prison).
And now let's go to the facts:
1 - The officers had their uniforms on (it is crazy to go into Serbian territory with uniforms)
2 - The officers had their normal equipment with them pistol as any Police officer in the world and a rifle because bord officers. So, no heavy equipment as someone is saying.
3 - The 13 Serbian elite officers were patrolling the border?! And they were at this precise location with their professional equipments?! What a coincidence!

Conclusion: It is clear that this is more for internal use with photos, videos etc but the result is that they are humiliating the Albanian officers the Kosovo gouvernement and the Kosovo police. It is clear that soon the Albanians will make their move in the same way because they will not forget it. Revenge will be made for sure soon or late. Maybe showing some Serbian police officers that piss oneself. Albanian nationalists will be happy and some Serbian nationalists will be upset. Balkans.

Political conclusion: The international community is already upset with this move. In their communicates they condemn both sides but principally the serbs. This was stupid politically speaking. Whoever is the idiot that organised this, made a huge autogol.

es_zet_pe

pre 12 godina

All so called "Kosovo Police" is a criminal organization of illegal para-state, with Ms. Jahjaga on first place. All members of "Kosovo Police" should be arrested and trialed by Serbian authorities.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Dooh! That's impossible, because there aren't two countries involved, only one country (Serbia) and an entity (called Kosovo*)


(J.Oker, 1 April 2012 18:02)

If true, how can you arrest your own officer for jay walking???

Kreshnik

pre 12 godina

Frankly, I am in awe of how well Serbia plays the 'game'. I mean, not even a fortnight has passed since they got EU candidate status and they pull this stunt. Not to mention Serbia is reaping all the benefits of 'owning' Kosovo (about EUR 500 million of annual trade) with none of the obligations (ie no money spent for economic development, pensions etc)

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Prishtina should ask Brussels to issue an arrest warrant by Interpol for Ivica Dacic.
(Pejoni, 1 April 2012 14:34)

Pejoni, why doesn't pristina issue its own arrest warrant through Interpol. Oh yes, I forgot you have to be a real country in order to do that.

Denis Srb

pre 12 godina

"And last but not least, turn our officers back, Srbos! At once!"
(Berk., 1 April 2012 13:19)

ok please stop your gonna get me in trouble at work for laughing too much hahahahaaaa too funny berk. "AT ONCE!" lmfaooo
berk.. why dont you do something about it other then typing?


"If true, how can you arrest your own officer for jay walking???"
(Agim Kelmendi, 1 April 2012 21:35)

Simple.. they are not real cops. And they broke the law.

iliri

pre 12 godina

prison is for men. juridically it is impossible
to detain them for an extended time,
in few days the kosovars will be returned home,
these incidents are good for albania,
serbs don t realise that in such hard economical times, even albania,
which in the past was indiferent toward serbian kosovar conflict is becoming more aware
of patriotic feelings, now flags are becoming fashionable and displayed every where, contrary to what many might think, prior to kosovo war, serbs were notseen as enemies around here, serbs are very, very stuborn, if they go on like this , they might help in creating the so feared greater albania, and albania albanians might get enthusiastic about this as well, just for the sake of revolutions,

Leonardo de Texas

pre 12 godina

It is clear that this move of Serbian Gov is foolish, childish and will turn back as a boomerang politically speaking.
This move will make happy some nationalists and maybe will help Dacic and others in the upcoming elections.
What is clear is that the Albanian version looks the one more realistic (Officers had meetings with their parents and their version of story was told to these parents. They told also that are not mistreated in prison).
And now let's go to the facts:
1 - The officers had their uniforms on (it is crazy to go into Serbian territory with uniforms)
2 - The officers had their normal equipment with them pistol as any Police officer in the world and a rifle because bord officers. So, no heavy equipment as someone is saying.
3 - The 13 Serbian elite officers were patrolling the border?! And they were at this precise location with their professional equipments?! What a coincidence!

Conclusion: It is clear that this is more for internal use with photos, videos etc but the result is that they are humiliating the Albanian officers the Kosovo gouvernement and the Kosovo police. It is clear that soon the Albanians will make their move in the same way because they will not forget it. Revenge will be made for sure soon or late. Maybe showing some Serbian police officers that piss oneself. Albanian nationalists will be happy and some Serbian nationalists will be upset. Balkans.

Political conclusion: The international community is already upset with this move. In their communicates they condemn both sides but principally the serbs. This was stupid politically speaking. Whoever is the idiot that organised this, made a huge autogol.
(Italian annalist, 1 April 2012 20:24)


The word is out that it was Giuseppe here who organized the whole nine,but he ain't nobody's idiot, he's this here old geezer's and Snake's chief advisor on Human Resources and Internal Affairs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np4dddR_Is0

a New Day

pre 12 godina

So if I understand correctly the Serbian police force strolled across the border, a border that is monitored by internationals and the kps. From there they snuck up upon two kps officer, who were dealing with serious landscaping concerns without a standard landscapers tool box. Perhaps there lies the problem. It is clearly a break on international law to landscape without proper landscaping equipment (or does that sound rather far fetched?)
(Joey, 1 April 2012 20:18
Well yes if you phrase it that way. But interject reality. Most Serbs in the north are still using alternate roads to cross back and forth from Kosovo to Serbia so how much of the actual border is guarded by KPS and internationals. Would you say 5% or less?

I really don't know who is right or wrong whether they were on the northern side or the southern side. What is apparent this was a political arrest.
My questions are
1. How can they say it was a violation of Kumanovo as KPS was not a part of Kumanovo nor even formed when it was written.
2. My impression is that there should not be any Gendarmarine encampments within 5 km of the border, is that not what the agreement says?

ben

pre 12 godina

The international community is already upset with this move. In their communicates they condemn both sides but principally the serbs.

(Italian annalist, 1 April 2012 20:24)

The international community's reaction is a SCANDAL.

When Serbia did the "reciprocal" arrests the international community should have condemned that shameful act with force and not saying ambiguous words. "Reciprocal arrests" was a total scandal, violation of international law, human right and all civilized norms of behavior for one democratic state moreover EU candidate member and of all last deals that were brokered by EU. It was EU and Fule's weak and shameful reaction that gave green light to this armed aggression of Serbia.

It was exactly their biased and shameful reaction that brought the things to escalate. And it is the international community that will bear the greats part of the responsibility for this.

I simply don't understand why Prishtina instead of exposing this shameful position of the international community is doing everything to proctect them. It doesn't say not even a single word of criticism. It was Dacic that was complaining on international community- even after his "reciprocal arrests". THIS IS SCANDAL. Stefan Fule's absence even to comment on "reciprocal arrests" will remain in the history as how weak and ambiguous position of EU allowed to escalate and destabilize the region.

sj

pre 12 godina

If true, how can you arrest your own officer for jay walking???
(Agim Kelmendi, 1 April 2012 21:35)

The Serbian MUP recently arrested several police officers over some involvement in criminal activity so why can’t they arrest the so called Kosovo police? What are they appointed from heaven?

Berk.

pre 12 godina

“They got into a trap while they were removing tree trunks from the road they regularly patrol,” Rexhepi told Radio Television Kosova and added that “13 Serbian gendarmes surrounded and kidnapped them and then transferred them to Serbia”.

The classic trap. KFOR must have been already notified that Serbs start with border incursions and abductions. Building barricades is already a new sport of them. It is time to play hardball.
Dacic promised that he will start an "arrest race" and yesterday he ignited it. Expect reciprocal echos! And last but not least, turn our officers back, Srbos! At once!

EA

pre 12 godina

Kosovo Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi has said that the two KPS members were “kidnapped” while they were patrolling the area.

“They got into a trap while they were removing tree trunks from the road they regularly patrol,” Rexhepi told Radio Television Kosova and added that “13 Serbian gendarmes surrounded and kidnapped them and then transferred them to Serbia”.

Peggy, Zoran, Jovanovic, MikeC and all Serbian commentators here...

Are you ruling the above out? Very likely yes because of your fanatic views.

I would love the internationals including your beloved UNMIK to step in and contact the captured Kosovo Albanian policemen and get to the bottom of that issue.

If they have been kidnapped and I repeat IF THEY HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED...God save the Serbian interior minister....

ben

pre 12 godina

Rexhepi what you say even children’s know.

What you don't say is what worries me. Your border police control the border with Serbia as if it was bordering with Sweden or Norway. You should be more serious. Should I teach you about the Serbian hostility towards Kosova??? should I tell you that refusing of apologies for the 90s and 99 policies form Serbia what that means??? So why do you give equipment and engagement rules to your border police if they were patrolling border with Switzerland???

What Serbian MUP did yesterday is one more of their dirty cowards act. And KPS needs to take all measures not to fall in their trap. 13 of their elite units set trap to 2 border police and they have their HD cameras ready to film and take pictures and show the world how strong they are and that they can do to Kosova whatever they want but only because they are good they don't want to... but we can humiliate them and play with them...

So or KPS plays the same rules: when arrests Serbian MUP members as it did arrest 5 of them just few weeks ago and take the picture and humiliates them just as Serbian MUP is humiliating KPS or you should take all measures increase the number, equipment, rules of engagement of your border police and do not allow these cowards to do their show. Full stop. What are the counter measures you are taking??? Inform us about this?? EU/US are deafly silent in this case as they were for the “reciprocal” arrests of the 2 kosovar citizens. Have you contacted them?? Have you asked them to pronounce about these two cowards acts??? Stefan Fule refused to say even a word about the "reciprocal" arrest and give the green light to Serbia for the next show. What sanctions are they planning to undertake?? Tell us about this not about what we know.

P.S. no one should fall in the easy excuse it was Dacic'd plan. This is coming from Tadic and all highest Serbian offices. Firstly, you cannot do such repetitve actions alone as minister; secodnly not being even verbaly cirticized. It is planned and executed cowrd acts from highest offcials of Serbia.

Mendo

pre 12 godina

@ Ecoman

At least those people at the helm of Prishtina protected their doorstep when they fought Yugo/Serb Army. Look who is at the helm in Belgrad people like Mr Dacic who was Slobos right and left hand when all the mass killings/genocide, raping of womans and burning happened in 4 parts of Yugoslavia outside Serbia by the Serbs and the likes of Dacic.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"This act questions relations between the two countries,” the Kosovo government said in a release."

I love that comment. What planet are these guys from? Kosovo is seen as a rebellious territory by Belgrade and not a country. These K-albanian politicians need help!

ecoman

pre 12 godina

“They got into a trap while they were removing tree trunks from the road they regularly patrol,” Rexhepi told Radio Television Kosova and added that “13 Serbian gendarmes surrounded and kidnapped them and then transferred them to Serbia”. Ah, how in the world would the Albanian minister know this? Was he/she there? Were they in contact with the Kosovo cops while they were being arrested? What total BS. The Albanian cops got caught doing something funny in central Serbia, where they shouldn't be, and Pristina does not have the honesty to say they got caught with their pants down. If these stories (from Pristina) were not so comical, they would be pathetic. Like all the suicides of key witnesses in Albanian war crimes cases.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Kidnapped (of course in Kosovo) and then abducted to Serbia? Things are getting more and more funny. Seems like Kosovo officials watch too much bad American movies to come up with a fabricated story like that. Do they really think anyone but some little kids might believe this absurd fairytale? :)

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Sorry, Mendo, but I do not see Dacic as any worse than Thaci. In fact I see Thaci as worse, because he was directly involved in heinous crimes against kidnapped civilians. You, and other Albanians, may look at Thaci as some sort of hero, but in reality he is a mafia king pin in Kosovo, operating a criminal enterprise that would make the Gambino's look like pickpockets. Maybe once you replace this former terrorist, even listed by the US State Dept. as such, until they needed him, an Albanian Kosovo may begin to be looked at with some respect. Until then, the Newborn is a dirty black pit of crime and horror, drenched in swindles and lies.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

The moment I read this story, I knew that the Albanians would say that their police were kidnapped. They are predictable, and do not have the dignity to say that maybe their police made a mistake, or God forbid, the truth. The Pristina authorities make themselves look even stupider, and more dishonest with these fabrications, because they were not at the scene, the event was not caught on video. What proof do they have of their absurd claim? In any case, let the internationals deal with their friends in Pristina - they made their beds, now sleep in them.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Peggy, Zoran, Jovanovic, MikeC and all Serbian commentators here...

Are you ruling the above out? Very likely yes because of your fanatic views.
=================================

One Question for you. Do your cops always walk around so heavily armed as if they were going to war?
Perhaps it is you who is so desperate to rule any BS is because of your fanatic views.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"Are you ruling the above out? Very likely yes because of your fanatic views."

EA

I can only speak for myself and I'm not ruling anything out. However, you and other albanians are. You are taking for granted that these KPS officers are innocent. Perhaps they are innocent. Perhaps its all a missunderstanding. However, let the case take its course. And please don't give me all that crap about "they won't get a fair trail" etc etc.
Serbia is not run by Milosevic any more, even if you would like to think that that is the case. Besides, you and other albanians need to take a good and long look in the mirror. You ain't all that innocent. Deep down inside you know that too.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Ben, maybe Albanian children know, but anyone with half a brain and an education, sees that your politicians are a seriously dishonest lot. For Christ's sake, look at who's at the helm in Pristina - there's nothing more to say.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

We know that the KLA deliberately proved the Serbian Authorities during the 1990s in order to give Serbia no alternative other than to respond with their Police.

They did to claim victim status with the story of bad Serbs and good Albanians, and the reason was to steal Serbian land.

We know that NATO and the Kosovo Albanians had to make the Kosovo Albanian People leave Kosovo, for the sake of the cameras, because the Conspiracy by NATO and the Kosovo Albanians was to steal Serbian land, and they needed International Sympathy.

The KLA and NATO were able to persuade the Kosovo Albanians to leave Kosovo, and the KLA promised to murder any Albanian that did not leave Kosovo, and NATO began bombing the Albanians to make them go along with this plan.

The Overwhelming majority of Kosovo Albanians wanted to steal Kosovo since their 1878 League of Prizren Declaration, but they were not prepared to leave Kosovo willingly to achieve this goal.

The America led NATO needed an excuse for why they Illegally and Immorally bombed Serbia, and the Kosovo Albanians were going to provide that after the events excuse, either willingly, or unwillingly by the KLA murderers and NATO murderers who made them leave Kosovo and destroyed their houses, and blamed it on Milosevic and the rest of Serbia.

It could be that a similar thing is happening here, with a situation being created with Anglo-America’s instruction, even as Anglo-America instructed the KLA in the 1990s.

The Albanians could have a recording of these KPS officers saying that they were clearing tree trunks, and this could have been recorded, and the areas claimed could have been photographs for tree trunks.

The alleged incident could have used 13 additional KPS officers who spoke the Serbian lines good enough to deceive the International Community.

The faked incident could even have been filmed from America satellites or the Albanian Police cars.

The Serbs were covered up and so this is very convenient if the incident was faked, and I am not saying what happened, because I do not know, and perhaps most of us will never know the ways of the devious.

This could have easily been faked with the approval of Tadic and the Kosovo Albanians in order to help the DS win the Election so that they can give away Kosovo, and Ivica Dacic may not be aware of any of this.

After this faked incident was recorded and filmed, the KPS officers went to Central Serbia illegally and were arrested by real Serbian Police, and Ivica Dacic may not know that this could be a possibly contrived incident by Tadic and Thaci to help each other.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Who knows what the truth is anymore when anything involves the Kosovo Albanians and the US/EU. The Racak incident in Kosovo in 1999, preceding the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia, was a staged massacre by the above, in an attempt to gain world sympathy for Kosovo Albanians, and an excuse for NATO to start bombing. In October 2008, Helena Ranta, the Finnish pathologist who had conducted the forensic examination on the Račak casualties, stated that she had been pressured to modify the contents of her report, both by the Finnish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and by William Walker, the head of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) Kosovo Verification Mission, in order to make more explicit the role of Serb troops in the incident. She refused to do so. So as I said, anything is possible when it comes to the moral less West, and the Kosovo Albanians.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Of course they were kidnapped. Just like those 5 Serb MUPs and Serb postal workers. What Albanians think is justified when it's done by them is a crime against humanity when it's done to them. Even if this entire stunt was for nothing else than to get an idiotic statement from Pristina, Dacic succeeded. Thaci, Rexhepi, or Jahijaga are known for their predictable simplicity. They either cry foul or call for war :)

really?

pre 12 godina

Removing tree trunks? Really? With what equipment were they removing tree trunks? Bare hands and AK-74s? REally? Taking it where? Seems like they were captured/arrested in the middle of a freaking forest...who needs to remove tree trunks in the middle of a forest, who cares? And if that's true, are you telling me two men with bare hands are wandering around a forest looking to move tree trunks from here to there without a chain saw, without an axe, or saw? The whole story is a lie per our albanian orcs..

Amusing still, these two criminals were armed...why not go down in glory as you die fighting for your albanian cause...killing serbs...isn't that what all our albo orc commentators preach and advocate? Yet when the rubber hits the road, your police/army whatever you call them choose to surrender without firing a shot.

EA

pre 12 godina

Do your cops always walk around so heavily armed as if they were going to war?

(Peggy, 1 April 2012 15:13)

Peggy,

Can you see what the Serbian gendarmerie/police are holding in their arms? They even have got their faces covered.....If you think they are holding toy guns they I would suggest you to see the optitian.

Let's wait for the true events....as far as I am aware KFOR has started an investigation. If the Kosovo policement have breached the rules of engagement that should be punished proportianately as it should any Serbian breaching the law in Kosovo.

"if they have been kidnapped it would be clear that Serbia is a gangster state."

Dacic might aim to score some political score on election "look how strong/tough we are". But he will be shooting himself in the foot or both feet if you like.

Let's wait what the investigation will say....

And regarding a question to me by one of the Serbian commentators quite new at B92 "how Bajram Rexhepi knows the event.

That was a very silly question. Is the same as asking how Dadic knows how the assumed kidnapping happened...

Of course Rexhepi is in a position te gather information through the chain of command. If two Kosovo policement have broken the rule of engagement I am preatty sure it would have been much easier for Rexhepi to aknowledge the fact and end of the story.

So the burden of probabilities is that the incident is provoked by Serbia thinking to humiliate the Kosovo police and institution kind of showing that "we are in charge" and "can do everything we like". Saying that I am still patient enough and not pre-judge any outcome.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

This act questions relations between the two countries,” the Kosovo government said in a release.

Dooh! That's impossible, because there aren't two countries involved, only one country (Serbia) and an entity (called Kosovo*)

*=without prejudice to the status

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Dooh! That's impossible, because there aren't two countries involved, only one country (Serbia) and an entity (called Kosovo*)


(J.Oker, 1 April 2012 18:02)

If true, how can you arrest your own officer for jay walking???

es_zet_pe

pre 12 godina

All so called "Kosovo Police" is a criminal organization of illegal para-state, with Ms. Jahjaga on first place. All members of "Kosovo Police" should be arrested and trialed by Serbian authorities.

Italian annalist

pre 12 godina

It is clear that this move of Serbian Gov is foolish, childish and will turn back as a boomerang politically speaking.
This move will make happy some nationalists and maybe will help Dacic and others in the upcoming elections.
What is clear is that the Albanian version looks the one more realistic (Officers had meetings with their parents and their version of story was told to these parents. They told also that are not mistreated in prison).
And now let's go to the facts:
1 - The officers had their uniforms on (it is crazy to go into Serbian territory with uniforms)
2 - The officers had their normal equipment with them pistol as any Police officer in the world and a rifle because bord officers. So, no heavy equipment as someone is saying.
3 - The 13 Serbian elite officers were patrolling the border?! And they were at this precise location with their professional equipments?! What a coincidence!

Conclusion: It is clear that this is more for internal use with photos, videos etc but the result is that they are humiliating the Albanian officers the Kosovo gouvernement and the Kosovo police. It is clear that soon the Albanians will make their move in the same way because they will not forget it. Revenge will be made for sure soon or late. Maybe showing some Serbian police officers that piss oneself. Albanian nationalists will be happy and some Serbian nationalists will be upset. Balkans.

Political conclusion: The international community is already upset with this move. In their communicates they condemn both sides but principally the serbs. This was stupid politically speaking. Whoever is the idiot that organised this, made a huge autogol.

Leonardo de Texas

pre 12 godina

It is clear that this move of Serbian Gov is foolish, childish and will turn back as a boomerang politically speaking.
This move will make happy some nationalists and maybe will help Dacic and others in the upcoming elections.
What is clear is that the Albanian version looks the one more realistic (Officers had meetings with their parents and their version of story was told to these parents. They told also that are not mistreated in prison).
And now let's go to the facts:
1 - The officers had their uniforms on (it is crazy to go into Serbian territory with uniforms)
2 - The officers had their normal equipment with them pistol as any Police officer in the world and a rifle because bord officers. So, no heavy equipment as someone is saying.
3 - The 13 Serbian elite officers were patrolling the border?! And they were at this precise location with their professional equipments?! What a coincidence!

Conclusion: It is clear that this is more for internal use with photos, videos etc but the result is that they are humiliating the Albanian officers the Kosovo gouvernement and the Kosovo police. It is clear that soon the Albanians will make their move in the same way because they will not forget it. Revenge will be made for sure soon or late. Maybe showing some Serbian police officers that piss oneself. Albanian nationalists will be happy and some Serbian nationalists will be upset. Balkans.

Political conclusion: The international community is already upset with this move. In their communicates they condemn both sides but principally the serbs. This was stupid politically speaking. Whoever is the idiot that organised this, made a huge autogol.
(Italian annalist, 1 April 2012 20:24)


The word is out that it was Giuseppe here who organized the whole nine,but he ain't nobody's idiot, he's this here old geezer's and Snake's chief advisor on Human Resources and Internal Affairs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np4dddR_Is0

ben

pre 12 godina

The international community is already upset with this move. In their communicates they condemn both sides but principally the serbs.

(Italian annalist, 1 April 2012 20:24)

The international community's reaction is a SCANDAL.

When Serbia did the "reciprocal" arrests the international community should have condemned that shameful act with force and not saying ambiguous words. "Reciprocal arrests" was a total scandal, violation of international law, human right and all civilized norms of behavior for one democratic state moreover EU candidate member and of all last deals that were brokered by EU. It was EU and Fule's weak and shameful reaction that gave green light to this armed aggression of Serbia.

It was exactly their biased and shameful reaction that brought the things to escalate. And it is the international community that will bear the greats part of the responsibility for this.

I simply don't understand why Prishtina instead of exposing this shameful position of the international community is doing everything to proctect them. It doesn't say not even a single word of criticism. It was Dacic that was complaining on international community- even after his "reciprocal arrests". THIS IS SCANDAL. Stefan Fule's absence even to comment on "reciprocal arrests" will remain in the history as how weak and ambiguous position of EU allowed to escalate and destabilize the region.

iliri

pre 12 godina

prison is for men. juridically it is impossible
to detain them for an extended time,
in few days the kosovars will be returned home,
these incidents are good for albania,
serbs don t realise that in such hard economical times, even albania,
which in the past was indiferent toward serbian kosovar conflict is becoming more aware
of patriotic feelings, now flags are becoming fashionable and displayed every where, contrary to what many might think, prior to kosovo war, serbs were notseen as enemies around here, serbs are very, very stuborn, if they go on like this , they might help in creating the so feared greater albania, and albania albanians might get enthusiastic about this as well, just for the sake of revolutions,

Denis Srb

pre 12 godina

"And last but not least, turn our officers back, Srbos! At once!"
(Berk., 1 April 2012 13:19)

ok please stop your gonna get me in trouble at work for laughing too much hahahahaaaa too funny berk. "AT ONCE!" lmfaooo
berk.. why dont you do something about it other then typing?


"If true, how can you arrest your own officer for jay walking???"
(Agim Kelmendi, 1 April 2012 21:35)

Simple.. they are not real cops. And they broke the law.

sj

pre 12 godina

If true, how can you arrest your own officer for jay walking???
(Agim Kelmendi, 1 April 2012 21:35)

The Serbian MUP recently arrested several police officers over some involvement in criminal activity so why can’t they arrest the so called Kosovo police? What are they appointed from heaven?

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Prishtina should ask Brussels to issue an arrest warrant by Interpol for Ivica Dacic.
(Pejoni, 1 April 2012 14:34)

Pejoni, why doesn't pristina issue its own arrest warrant through Interpol. Oh yes, I forgot you have to be a real country in order to do that.

Joey

pre 12 godina

So if I understand correctly the Serbian police force strolled across the border, a border that is monitored by internationals and the kps. From there they snuck up upon two kps officer, who were dealing with serious landscaping concerns without a standard landscapers tool box. Perhaps there lies the problem. It is clearly a break on international law to landscape without proper landscaping equipment (or does that sound rather far fetched?)

Kreshnik

pre 12 godina

Frankly, I am in awe of how well Serbia plays the 'game'. I mean, not even a fortnight has passed since they got EU candidate status and they pull this stunt. Not to mention Serbia is reaping all the benefits of 'owning' Kosovo (about EUR 500 million of annual trade) with none of the obligations (ie no money spent for economic development, pensions etc)

a New Day

pre 12 godina

So if I understand correctly the Serbian police force strolled across the border, a border that is monitored by internationals and the kps. From there they snuck up upon two kps officer, who were dealing with serious landscaping concerns without a standard landscapers tool box. Perhaps there lies the problem. It is clearly a break on international law to landscape without proper landscaping equipment (or does that sound rather far fetched?)
(Joey, 1 April 2012 20:18
Well yes if you phrase it that way. But interject reality. Most Serbs in the north are still using alternate roads to cross back and forth from Kosovo to Serbia so how much of the actual border is guarded by KPS and internationals. Would you say 5% or less?

I really don't know who is right or wrong whether they were on the northern side or the southern side. What is apparent this was a political arrest.
My questions are
1. How can they say it was a violation of Kumanovo as KPS was not a part of Kumanovo nor even formed when it was written.
2. My impression is that there should not be any Gendarmarine encampments within 5 km of the border, is that not what the agreement says?