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Monday, 26.03.2012.

10:20

Proposal to give gay couples right to adopt rejected

According to unofficial results of a referendum in Slovenia, a proposal to give same-sex couples the right to adopt children has been rejected.

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Tom in Lazybrook

pre 12 godina

TP,

Gays in Serbia are de facto (by practice, regardless of Serbian Law says) banned from the freedom of association, expression, petition, protest, expression, speech, and protest.

They are banned from marching for their rights in their national capital.

The Serbian state has refused to take any concrete steps to protect them from terroristic threats and to appropriate prosecute violence against them by Serbian thugs.

When can Serbian Gays march through their national capital under banners of their choosing to protest their mistreatment by the state?

When will anyone go to jail for the terrorist threats made against the 2011 LGBT Parada Ponosa? Yes I know, the authorities keep arresting the same guy and sentencing him to a week or so in jail, but he'll be free in October and doing the same thing again this year. And the police won't do anything to protect the marchers. The marchers have a right to march in their national capital and to be VISIBLE. It isn't a protest if its' thrown into some closed off park. That isn't the point of a protest. A woman was seriously injured two weeks after the banning of protest rights for LGBT Serbians simply for wearing a rainbow colored shirt. No one went to jail for that. The Serbian foreign ministry helped a violent thug escape prosecution for a brutal unprovoked beating that a Serbian basketball player committed in the USA against a US citizen. That Serb criminal was not punished appropriately.

Serbia has laws. They just aren't enforced. And the proximate result of that non-enforcement is that LGBT Serbians have no right of protest, speech, association, expression, and petition.

Parada Ponosa 2012 is planned for October, on the streets of Central Serbia (on a weekend afternoon). Will it be cancelled again this year as a result of terroristic threats combined with police refusal to enforce the laws of Serbia?

TP

pre 12 godina

'I need to point out the following.

Serbia currently has a de facto ban on all freedom of speech, petition, assembly, association, expression, identity, protest, due process, and basic civil rights.'

Tom in Lazybrook

Where on earth do you get this impression?

Examples?

Mihai

pre 12 godina

Congratulations Slovenia. God made humans from a man and a woman. Period. If children are beeing abandoned, we should encourage normal couples to adopt them. Let's not forget that every HUMAN is different and has it's own path in life. Only God knows where the future lies...

I have seen the effects of gay parenting on children: girls who need a mother figure and don't have one, or boys who need a father figure, become withdrawn, not able to integrate into society...Only a woman can be a mother, and a man a father. To those who don't believe in God I ask: Have you ever seen a male wolf nurturing it's babies? Or a horse? Or a bull?...

trizo

pre 12 godina

Is it more important for the abandoned children to have someone to show them love & affection?

What happens to the kid if noone adopts them?

Although I believe as humans we are here to procreate and continue the life cycle I just don't know how the child might turn out if they never receive love growing up.

The more we put ourselves into the shoes of someone else the more we can understand about life. I believe gays do not choose their orientation, just like some people are born boys & growing up all they want is to change their sex to female (vice-versa with girls changing to boys).

I feel sorry for children who are born into misfortune (such as poverty, abusive parents, orphans etc) and I think it's very sad to know how hard life is for many gays simply because of how they were born (no choice).

It's sad to know how many gays commit suicide because they don't want to be gay but cannot help it.

As I've grown I have just learned to be more & more compassionate to humans & animals that suffer at the hands of others.

I care a lot about orphaned animals (especially dogs) and when you understand how many are killed every day in every country because people prefer to "buy" superior dogs, it really upsets me.

There are so many dogs out there that need adoption and deserve to love. Because people decide one day they can't keep their dog (for whatever reason) and they take it to the pound and noone adopts it, they take the dogs life.

Most of the paedophiles & rapists and violent humans in the world today have demented childhoods. Paedophiles were often molested as childs, rapists were often rejected by girls at school & bullied as children, and violent individuals usually did not receive a lot of love.

I just want people to ask what kind of kids these orphans may turn out to be if they do not find a loving Mother & Father?

I do believe in a family of a mother & father, but I believe more in not being a)violent & prejudice myself - so I will no longer judge these topics.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Roberto? Lenard? I'm looking somewhere for yooouuu!

What a surprise. No Roberto "the hypocrite" and Lenard "the big croat" when the rights of gays in Slovenia is being questioned. I wouldn't expect anything less from those two trolls.

köcsög robi

pre 12 godina

I expect anti-Slovenian outburst from some B92 regulars, condemning Slovenian pro-Putin Milosevic press which is obviously the root cause of that genocidical Stalinist decision.
(Ataman, 26 March 2012 17:06)

Shame on you wanna be hungarian ruski breznevist leninist blgd regime agent.This case is serious thing not ajoke and people like me or Tom from Lazybrook will fight for minority rights.

Tom in Lazybrook

pre 12 godina

Uh, while I'm disappointed on the vote in Slovenia (passed by less than 16% of the voters), as well as the implication for the children that find loving homes with same sex families after being abandoned by straight people (and not adopted by straight families), I need to point out the following.

Serbia currently has a de facto ban on all freedom of speech, petition, assembly, association, expression, identity, protest, due process, and basic civil rights. It tolerates terroristic threats against the LGBT community through non-prosecution/non-jailing of those commmitting physical violence and terrorist threats against its LGBT population.

Just curious B-92, how about an update on what actions the Serbian authorities have taken to prosecute those who made terroristic threats so severe that Serbia had to block all political speech by LGBT Serbians, even in their national capital. How about an update on what steps the Serbian authorities have taken to ensure that Parada Ponosa will take place on the streets of Central Belgrade on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon in October 2012.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I expect anti-Slovenian outburst from some B92 regulars, condemning Slovenian pro-Putin Milosevic press which is obviously the root cause of that genocidical Stalinist decision.

Bryan

pre 12 godina

God created Adam and Eve....NOT Adam and Steve. This is the right decision. No offense to anyones sexual orientation but children need to be brought up by a MOM and DAD.

Tristan@Canada

pre 12 godina

How unfortunate.

It is still very evident that some countries need to somehow "knock" some parts of themselves into the 21st Century.

Bryan

pre 12 godina

God created Adam and Eve....NOT Adam and Steve. This is the right decision. No offense to anyones sexual orientation but children need to be brought up by a MOM and DAD.

Tristan@Canada

pre 12 godina

How unfortunate.

It is still very evident that some countries need to somehow "knock" some parts of themselves into the 21st Century.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I expect anti-Slovenian outburst from some B92 regulars, condemning Slovenian pro-Putin Milosevic press which is obviously the root cause of that genocidical Stalinist decision.

Mihai

pre 12 godina

Congratulations Slovenia. God made humans from a man and a woman. Period. If children are beeing abandoned, we should encourage normal couples to adopt them. Let's not forget that every HUMAN is different and has it's own path in life. Only God knows where the future lies...

I have seen the effects of gay parenting on children: girls who need a mother figure and don't have one, or boys who need a father figure, become withdrawn, not able to integrate into society...Only a woman can be a mother, and a man a father. To those who don't believe in God I ask: Have you ever seen a male wolf nurturing it's babies? Or a horse? Or a bull?...

Tom in Lazybrook

pre 12 godina

Uh, while I'm disappointed on the vote in Slovenia (passed by less than 16% of the voters), as well as the implication for the children that find loving homes with same sex families after being abandoned by straight people (and not adopted by straight families), I need to point out the following.

Serbia currently has a de facto ban on all freedom of speech, petition, assembly, association, expression, identity, protest, due process, and basic civil rights. It tolerates terroristic threats against the LGBT community through non-prosecution/non-jailing of those commmitting physical violence and terrorist threats against its LGBT population.

Just curious B-92, how about an update on what actions the Serbian authorities have taken to prosecute those who made terroristic threats so severe that Serbia had to block all political speech by LGBT Serbians, even in their national capital. How about an update on what steps the Serbian authorities have taken to ensure that Parada Ponosa will take place on the streets of Central Belgrade on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon in October 2012.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Roberto? Lenard? I'm looking somewhere for yooouuu!

What a surprise. No Roberto "the hypocrite" and Lenard "the big croat" when the rights of gays in Slovenia is being questioned. I wouldn't expect anything less from those two trolls.

trizo

pre 12 godina

Is it more important for the abandoned children to have someone to show them love & affection?

What happens to the kid if noone adopts them?

Although I believe as humans we are here to procreate and continue the life cycle I just don't know how the child might turn out if they never receive love growing up.

The more we put ourselves into the shoes of someone else the more we can understand about life. I believe gays do not choose their orientation, just like some people are born boys & growing up all they want is to change their sex to female (vice-versa with girls changing to boys).

I feel sorry for children who are born into misfortune (such as poverty, abusive parents, orphans etc) and I think it's very sad to know how hard life is for many gays simply because of how they were born (no choice).

It's sad to know how many gays commit suicide because they don't want to be gay but cannot help it.

As I've grown I have just learned to be more & more compassionate to humans & animals that suffer at the hands of others.

I care a lot about orphaned animals (especially dogs) and when you understand how many are killed every day in every country because people prefer to "buy" superior dogs, it really upsets me.

There are so many dogs out there that need adoption and deserve to love. Because people decide one day they can't keep their dog (for whatever reason) and they take it to the pound and noone adopts it, they take the dogs life.

Most of the paedophiles & rapists and violent humans in the world today have demented childhoods. Paedophiles were often molested as childs, rapists were often rejected by girls at school & bullied as children, and violent individuals usually did not receive a lot of love.

I just want people to ask what kind of kids these orphans may turn out to be if they do not find a loving Mother & Father?

I do believe in a family of a mother & father, but I believe more in not being a)violent & prejudice myself - so I will no longer judge these topics.

TP

pre 12 godina

'I need to point out the following.

Serbia currently has a de facto ban on all freedom of speech, petition, assembly, association, expression, identity, protest, due process, and basic civil rights.'

Tom in Lazybrook

Where on earth do you get this impression?

Examples?

Tom in Lazybrook

pre 12 godina

TP,

Gays in Serbia are de facto (by practice, regardless of Serbian Law says) banned from the freedom of association, expression, petition, protest, expression, speech, and protest.

They are banned from marching for their rights in their national capital.

The Serbian state has refused to take any concrete steps to protect them from terroristic threats and to appropriate prosecute violence against them by Serbian thugs.

When can Serbian Gays march through their national capital under banners of their choosing to protest their mistreatment by the state?

When will anyone go to jail for the terrorist threats made against the 2011 LGBT Parada Ponosa? Yes I know, the authorities keep arresting the same guy and sentencing him to a week or so in jail, but he'll be free in October and doing the same thing again this year. And the police won't do anything to protect the marchers. The marchers have a right to march in their national capital and to be VISIBLE. It isn't a protest if its' thrown into some closed off park. That isn't the point of a protest. A woman was seriously injured two weeks after the banning of protest rights for LGBT Serbians simply for wearing a rainbow colored shirt. No one went to jail for that. The Serbian foreign ministry helped a violent thug escape prosecution for a brutal unprovoked beating that a Serbian basketball player committed in the USA against a US citizen. That Serb criminal was not punished appropriately.

Serbia has laws. They just aren't enforced. And the proximate result of that non-enforcement is that LGBT Serbians have no right of protest, speech, association, expression, and petition.

Parada Ponosa 2012 is planned for October, on the streets of Central Serbia (on a weekend afternoon). Will it be cancelled again this year as a result of terroristic threats combined with police refusal to enforce the laws of Serbia?

köcsög robi

pre 12 godina

I expect anti-Slovenian outburst from some B92 regulars, condemning Slovenian pro-Putin Milosevic press which is obviously the root cause of that genocidical Stalinist decision.
(Ataman, 26 March 2012 17:06)

Shame on you wanna be hungarian ruski breznevist leninist blgd regime agent.This case is serious thing not ajoke and people like me or Tom from Lazybrook will fight for minority rights.

Tristan@Canada

pre 12 godina

How unfortunate.

It is still very evident that some countries need to somehow "knock" some parts of themselves into the 21st Century.

Bryan

pre 12 godina

God created Adam and Eve....NOT Adam and Steve. This is the right decision. No offense to anyones sexual orientation but children need to be brought up by a MOM and DAD.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I expect anti-Slovenian outburst from some B92 regulars, condemning Slovenian pro-Putin Milosevic press which is obviously the root cause of that genocidical Stalinist decision.

trizo

pre 12 godina

Is it more important for the abandoned children to have someone to show them love & affection?

What happens to the kid if noone adopts them?

Although I believe as humans we are here to procreate and continue the life cycle I just don't know how the child might turn out if they never receive love growing up.

The more we put ourselves into the shoes of someone else the more we can understand about life. I believe gays do not choose their orientation, just like some people are born boys & growing up all they want is to change their sex to female (vice-versa with girls changing to boys).

I feel sorry for children who are born into misfortune (such as poverty, abusive parents, orphans etc) and I think it's very sad to know how hard life is for many gays simply because of how they were born (no choice).

It's sad to know how many gays commit suicide because they don't want to be gay but cannot help it.

As I've grown I have just learned to be more & more compassionate to humans & animals that suffer at the hands of others.

I care a lot about orphaned animals (especially dogs) and when you understand how many are killed every day in every country because people prefer to "buy" superior dogs, it really upsets me.

There are so many dogs out there that need adoption and deserve to love. Because people decide one day they can't keep their dog (for whatever reason) and they take it to the pound and noone adopts it, they take the dogs life.

Most of the paedophiles & rapists and violent humans in the world today have demented childhoods. Paedophiles were often molested as childs, rapists were often rejected by girls at school & bullied as children, and violent individuals usually did not receive a lot of love.

I just want people to ask what kind of kids these orphans may turn out to be if they do not find a loving Mother & Father?

I do believe in a family of a mother & father, but I believe more in not being a)violent & prejudice myself - so I will no longer judge these topics.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Roberto? Lenard? I'm looking somewhere for yooouuu!

What a surprise. No Roberto "the hypocrite" and Lenard "the big croat" when the rights of gays in Slovenia is being questioned. I wouldn't expect anything less from those two trolls.

Tom in Lazybrook

pre 12 godina

Uh, while I'm disappointed on the vote in Slovenia (passed by less than 16% of the voters), as well as the implication for the children that find loving homes with same sex families after being abandoned by straight people (and not adopted by straight families), I need to point out the following.

Serbia currently has a de facto ban on all freedom of speech, petition, assembly, association, expression, identity, protest, due process, and basic civil rights. It tolerates terroristic threats against the LGBT community through non-prosecution/non-jailing of those commmitting physical violence and terrorist threats against its LGBT population.

Just curious B-92, how about an update on what actions the Serbian authorities have taken to prosecute those who made terroristic threats so severe that Serbia had to block all political speech by LGBT Serbians, even in their national capital. How about an update on what steps the Serbian authorities have taken to ensure that Parada Ponosa will take place on the streets of Central Belgrade on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon in October 2012.

köcsög robi

pre 12 godina

I expect anti-Slovenian outburst from some B92 regulars, condemning Slovenian pro-Putin Milosevic press which is obviously the root cause of that genocidical Stalinist decision.
(Ataman, 26 March 2012 17:06)

Shame on you wanna be hungarian ruski breznevist leninist blgd regime agent.This case is serious thing not ajoke and people like me or Tom from Lazybrook will fight for minority rights.

Mihai

pre 12 godina

Congratulations Slovenia. God made humans from a man and a woman. Period. If children are beeing abandoned, we should encourage normal couples to adopt them. Let's not forget that every HUMAN is different and has it's own path in life. Only God knows where the future lies...

I have seen the effects of gay parenting on children: girls who need a mother figure and don't have one, or boys who need a father figure, become withdrawn, not able to integrate into society...Only a woman can be a mother, and a man a father. To those who don't believe in God I ask: Have you ever seen a male wolf nurturing it's babies? Or a horse? Or a bull?...

Tom in Lazybrook

pre 12 godina

TP,

Gays in Serbia are de facto (by practice, regardless of Serbian Law says) banned from the freedom of association, expression, petition, protest, expression, speech, and protest.

They are banned from marching for their rights in their national capital.

The Serbian state has refused to take any concrete steps to protect them from terroristic threats and to appropriate prosecute violence against them by Serbian thugs.

When can Serbian Gays march through their national capital under banners of their choosing to protest their mistreatment by the state?

When will anyone go to jail for the terrorist threats made against the 2011 LGBT Parada Ponosa? Yes I know, the authorities keep arresting the same guy and sentencing him to a week or so in jail, but he'll be free in October and doing the same thing again this year. And the police won't do anything to protect the marchers. The marchers have a right to march in their national capital and to be VISIBLE. It isn't a protest if its' thrown into some closed off park. That isn't the point of a protest. A woman was seriously injured two weeks after the banning of protest rights for LGBT Serbians simply for wearing a rainbow colored shirt. No one went to jail for that. The Serbian foreign ministry helped a violent thug escape prosecution for a brutal unprovoked beating that a Serbian basketball player committed in the USA against a US citizen. That Serb criminal was not punished appropriately.

Serbia has laws. They just aren't enforced. And the proximate result of that non-enforcement is that LGBT Serbians have no right of protest, speech, association, expression, and petition.

Parada Ponosa 2012 is planned for October, on the streets of Central Serbia (on a weekend afternoon). Will it be cancelled again this year as a result of terroristic threats combined with police refusal to enforce the laws of Serbia?

TP

pre 12 godina

'I need to point out the following.

Serbia currently has a de facto ban on all freedom of speech, petition, assembly, association, expression, identity, protest, due process, and basic civil rights.'

Tom in Lazybrook

Where on earth do you get this impression?

Examples?