Latvians honor Waffen SS fighters

Ahh, yes, Latvians demonstrating their European values annually.

“Yes , Batista is a SOB but he is our SOB with no questions asked” – this is the original of the well known phrase by Allen Dales. Same is the Western attitude for the 3 out of mind Baltic states. They close eyes at everything they do only because of the hatred they feel for Russia. The Latvian Waffen SS defended Reichstag , Estonia was the only state where Holocaust had 100% “success” (nobody has escaped) and Lithuania was nothing better. But if the Americans already believe it was them who defeated Hitler then Baltic scoundrels are nothing worse with their manipulations. Thank you B92 for paying attention to it !

Aaaah yes, those 'European Values' at their best, shared by the Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians as well. Wunderbar!!

reports from Latvia suggested that albanians and croats also took part in the celebrations of their shared nazi past, but it was the albanians that demanded a separate site that was for albanians only, autonomous from Latvians. Furthermore, they threatened civil unrest and violence if they didn't' get what they wanted, reminding Latvians that Illiyrians were the native peoples to these lands as well. They concluded that if they were successful in lying to the world about Serbs and getting away with it, why not test the waters again and ask for NATO intervention on their behalf again. The saga continues.

Should they rather celebrate the 60 years of Russian occupation?

Ahh, yes, Latvians demonstrating their European values annually.
(Zoran, 16 March 2012 14:04)

Why do some still see Ratko Mladic as a hero?

The number one Nazi supporter Robert Leonard Rope must be very satisfied now.

"RIGA -- Hundreds of Latvians gathered in Riga on Friday to pay tribute to soldiers who fought on the side of Nazi Germany in Waffen SS detachments in World War II."

Hopefully B92 is correct and hope in Latvia there are no more just several HUNDRED of people who openly support Nazis. If you look at the picture - all they in the age soon to face the Creator. Latvia's population is roughly two million, same about as of Kosovo.

With quite a lot of disrespect to Latvia's post-Soviet era - here they are far ahead. I wish for Kosovo to have no more, than few hundred nazis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbP2EyF8d34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuhGN8r6nW8

Looking at the hate the nazi Albanians spread here, I am not very optimistic. And yes, Robert Leonard Rope is either a major nazi or a major idiot or both. Probably both because one just can't be a major nazi and not to be a major idiot.

Why do some still see Ratko Mladic as a hero?
(Avni, 16 March 2012 16:17)
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Staying on topic, if you are a Nazi lover then just go ahead and admit it. Why hide it? Albanians were Nazi supporters along with Bosnian Muslims and Croatians. You guys got your reward from Germany so you will likely start celebrating it like the Latvians, right?

(really, 16 March 2012 15:59)

You skipped the part about the Serbian participants, the Srpski dobrovoljački korpus also deserves its rightful place in history.

This is too funny. This article has nothing to do with Albanians, not even a comment from one to react to. Yet you people drift away from the topic.
But hey, its okay. Just remember that nowadays you'll find more neo-nazi serbs in Belgrade, than in Kosovo, Albania and west FYROM combined. Fact is that theres a huge nazi scene in Serbia. You're quite fast when it comes to blame others for their past, but your people still follow that ideology to this day..

Hitlerism was certainly evil. But one could not honestly divide the historical figures of the time on “good” and “bad” solely on the ground of whether one fought against Hitler, or sought co-operation with him. Millions of people in Eastern Europe co-operated with the Nazis naively hoping to correct the evils of the Versailles system or to forestall the looming communist treat. On the other hand the struggle against Hitler could not be used as an excuse for the horrendous communist crimes committed before, during and especially after the war!

Sorry, Kenny, go and sell your peanuts somewhere else. Serbs are the most anti-Nazi people I know. You are confusing todays soccer hooligans with Nazis, common mistake with mental midgets like yourself. Your people, Albanians, have a direct historic link with Hitler's and Mussolini's Nazi machine. Your grand daddies were proud of that, so don't be ashamed now. Serbs were on the winning side of WWII, the Albanians, as usual, sided with the losers. Wonder if history will repeat itself again, probably.

really, 16 March 2012 15:59)

You skipped the part about the Serbian participants, the Srpski dobrovoljački korpus also deserves its rightful place in history.
(?, 16 March 2012 16:14)

Let's not forget Pavle Djurisic and his Iron Cross medal that he got from Hitler.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pavle_%C4%90uri%C5%A1i%C4%87_Iron_Cross.jpg

Great isn't it,this NAZI filth crawls from the sewer in a country thats in the EU and NATO,the new REICH.

They honor the men who were fighting to prevent the situation that eventually happened in Kosovo, what became overflooded by inturders from Albania.
(from the Baltics, 16 March 2012 18:11)

When did this happen? Cite sources please.In case you don't know the only intruders in the Balkans are the slavs.This serbs that you try to support while they are trying to trash your people, are invaders in the Balkans. They did not bring any land with them when they left the mountains of Iran. Everything they claim as theirs now, they stole it.

Why do some still see Ratko Mladic as a hero?
(Avni, 16 March 2012 16:17)

Since you crave coming back here again and again - they just want to satisfy your needs.
If we would briefly comment something not very good about Ratko Mladc and continue to talk with Zoran about real problems of Serbia (H., R., A.) like government not keeping it's contract obligations, corruption, small busines problems and so on you will be bored and feel you did not get your time and money worth on B92.

Therefore we satisfy your needs to hear about Ratko Mladic's "Very Violent Russian Bears of Medvedja Fed By Body Parts Of Killed Albanians™" and you are happy.

You just given a superb customer support, that is. If you looking for veggies with fish, you can get sushi

http://tinyurl.com/6rkkhwo

If you come here as a scavenger Tiranasaurus, you get some rotten meat, but than don't complain, that meat is stinky. Serbs just assume, Tiranasaurus does not like veggies + rice + seaweed.

Everything they claim as theirs now, they stole it.
(Mark, 16 March 2012 21:56)

You did read way to much fan fiction and Harry Potter. But the reality is even more serious. Slavs are preparing to steal even more land. We have Latvian mercenaries who in this moment sharpen their knives and learn from Serbs how to use old, rusty spoons properly. The Latvian spoon-commando is steered secretly by Shlomo Miloshewitz from the basement of the Dohány Street synagogue. The ultimate goal is no more and no less, than to liquidate the Greatest Enemy of Waldemar Puqine, Robert Leonard Rope.

This is a dark, evil secret of the neo-masonic Legend Of Ancient Slavic Zoroastrism (LOFASZ) sect.

Your comments show how simplistic and ignorant most people are. WWII was NOT a simple affair, between good and evil, black and white. Especially for the small countries.

Any small country in the East had to choose between two EVILS: soviet or nazi. Neither was perfect, but you have to choose. What do you do? If you're Christian, traditional european country, you choose the internationalist, atheist soviets? Or do you choose the jew haters from Germany? There's no easy choice. And the "beautifull"west has it's own HUGE FAULT for that.

For instance, my country, Romania. We had a security guarantee from France and England. When Germany attacked Polland, what did they do? Nothing. Along with our stupid politicians, they alowed Hitler and Stalin to carve the East. That's how the Soviet Union came to steal a province from us, Hungary and Bulgary another. When Germany came and said: "look, we cannot guarantee that you'll get everything back, but at least you'll have what the soviets took and leave you and you beliefs alone", what should we have done?

It wasn't perfect, but it was the best thing at the time. Sure, it's so easy NOW, when you're sitting in your couch, drinking a coca-cola or a starbucks coffee to point the finger...Anyone who survived the SOVIET GULAG can testify that ANYTHING was better than soviet rule. So, yes, my foreparents fought against the SOVIET UNION, against bolshevism, against atheism and i respect their memory. And besides: fighting alongside the nazis doesn't always mean that you were a "jew eater".

When in the Soviet Unions, thousands of liberated people came to the Romanian Army priest for BAPTISM. There are pictures of imense relief and joy when a parent could baptise it's child or even himself. There's nothing wrong with that.

I'm sorry, but

This is too funny. This article has nothing to do with Albanians, not even a comment from one to react to. Yet you people drift away from the topic.
(Kenny, 16 March 2012 19:30)

It's dead-on because 30000 years ago Latvia was part of Dardania. It just waits to become part of Natural Albania. Dardania IS the mythical Atlantis, the only what remains from the highly developed Atlantide civilization are the Albanian Railways.

Stolen Mercedes cars all over Durres station

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/misc/017_15.jpg

and sheep all over Tirana station.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/misc/tir_staz.jpg

Riga sux horribly in comparison

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/station/Riga/Riga.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/station/Riga/LV_442.jpg

And the Latvian trains... yuck, how can people live like that?

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/car/20060913_131.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/car/010.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/car/LV_144.jpg

Most disgusting is the Latvian train in Russia - disgusting train in disgusting country. Yuck.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/car/001.jpg

This is the way to go! That's for Szemi again, he seem to enjoy Albanian trains.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/car/014_12.jpg

Full air-conditioned cars:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/car/HSH_07.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/car/HSH_16.jpg

Safety installation, very-very safe:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/misc/Vora_20060318_dominopult.jpg

This is North Korean, by the way, just for comparison

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ne/North_Korea/car/20061225_009.jpg


Looks like the Dardanian Atlantide civilization was a very-very advanced one.

Looks like the Dardanian Atlantide civilization was a very-very advanced one.
(Ataman, 17 March 2012 00:49)

It looks like You Jahudi still have that cronic running diarrhea from your mouth against Albanians. That sindrom comes from Identity Crises that people like you have.
Shalom

In an April 13, 1950 message from the U.S. High Commission in Germany (HICOG), signed by General Frank McCloy to the Secretary of State, clarified the US position on the "Baltic Legions": they were not to be seen as "movements", "volunteer", or "SS". In short, they were not given the training, indoctrination, and induction normally given to SS members. Subsequently the US Displaced Persons Commission in September 1950 declared that:
The Baltic Waffen-SS Units (Baltic Legions) are to be considered as separate and distinct in purpose, ideology, activities, and qualifications for membership from the German SS, and therefore the Commission holds them not to be a movement hostile to the Government of the United States.

They honor the men who were fighting to prevent the situation that eventually happened in Kosovo, what became overflooded by inturders from Albania. Russians were deporting the baltics to Siberia and bringing immigrants instead in order to change population ratio - similar thing happened in Kosovo - and those very russians who only promised to help Serbs...
Russians and Germans are good, but only from distance. NO ONE LIKED Germans as they got kicked during liberation wars in 1918-20(after being rulers for 700 yrs from which 300 in Russian Empire with official German language in the Baltic governorates), as well got kicked Red Russians, who kind of liberated us...BUT FORGOT TO GO HOME.

I know Latvians, they are not Nazi backers, for sure. It's true that they despise the Russians, but they certainly are not fascists. Although I do remember one of them saying that black people have smaller brains, medically proven, of course. One thing for sure though, the bastards can drink.

Excellent that in spite of the desinformation and ignorance, some countries pay tribute to the Waffen SS.

Why isn't my link being shown?
(Avni, 16 March 2012 22:20)

Why are you still here?

Why isn't my link being shown?

Should they rather celebrate the 60 years of Russian occupation?
(?, 16 March 2012 14:42)

Latvia had a movement that fought both Soviets and Nazis, why not support them, your question and those marching sum up whats wrong with US and Western policy. This is how the chaos begins again, we as humans have learnt s*&t. Either way were it not for the Soviet sacrifices (no they were not perfect no-one was) we might have all been looking into blue eyes and blond hair clones, offcourse only if we possesed blue eyes and blond hair.

@(AN/C/C, 18 March 2012 13:54)

I'm not saying Romania is celebrating Germany, i'm just saying that it's all right that the latvian( romanian, whatever) people to celebrate those who fought and died for their country. I think it's our right to honour their sacrifice.Regardless who's ally they were at the time.

Americans were allied with the raping, stealing soviets and I'm not seeing anyone regreting it.

I still haven't met one Romanian that lived in the days of the war who says something bad against the german army...Ask those same people about the behaviour of the soviet "liberating" army...

Quick question to the know-all self-proclaimed "anti-nazis" of this site: who would you rather have, Hitler or Stalin. That was the choice left to the Baltic countries. A mass murderer or a mass murderer?

Let's not forget to add to Pavle Djuresic and his services those of Milan Nedic and his three year long government made up of ministers, vice-ministers, directors, whole departments, police, etc etc. A lot of people, that is.

Today that hard choice is no longer necessary is my point, there is no necessity to have a parade or to recognise those who wished to make your country a fifth column that also tainted those original spiritual beliefs. Many countries and groups made painful third choices because they believed neither group reflected their beliefs. Read about the Nazi racial policies regarding the Slavs for instance and how much some could have gained but rejected,
http://www.enotes.com/topic/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany

Armia Krajowa one such group resisted both and I understand the complexities to the point that some resistance groups had to sit out or manoeuvre sometimes using one against the other on the battlefield at times. Essentially those actions were not an endorsement of their will to either, but, to defeat both which does not diminish their achievements or their contribution to freedom, right to a parade. But why today would anyone of fit conscious would want recognition of Latvia’s axis actions, why parade embracing an evil that tainted/contradicted their spiritual beliefs? Or in Romania to support those that signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact that divided Romania along the same lines in the first place? Or parade association of the systematic slaughter of people in the absence of violent provacations, but soley on race? I agree with you though on your point regarding guarantees, those were weak.

On Baptism, yes most say it is a most joyful experience, a wonderful undertaking of the Christian right of admission, the clauses the SS/Wehrmacht and it’s legacy put on practising Christians was soulless. I understand a lot of regretful WW2 complexities, I just can’t get my head around celebrating or parading those regrets as in Latvia. Romania has a lot more going for it in my eyes then to celebrate or parade an SS past and so should Latvia.

(Mihai, 18 March 2012 15:06

IMHO, those who served the Latvian Central Council, in Romania those under the King that fought both enemies were the only ones fighting for Romania. The rest were fighting for false ideology at the sacrifice of their nation, their faith and their minorities.

But you must ask yourself a question how many souls did the views such as the Iron guard push into the faithless society. In newly conquered areas of Russia many viewed the Germans as liberators until their ideology was brutally forced upon them, Stalin’s job recruiting was made easy, those peasants who joined took with them the behaviour of vengeance. It’s about understanding the complexities as you say.

Putin and Iliescu (the former President you haven’t met) condemned both the Nazi proxies and Stalin so I’m glad those parades aren’t happening in Romania.

Riga,


As I have understanding for some regretful happenings I do not celebrate them. Many Serbs chose war against the Nazis and Communists many Serbs celebrate Mihalovic. Nedic had to do what he had to, this is no cause for celebration just understanding and seeking of forgiveness.

Regret is no cause for celebration.

Should they rather celebrate the 60 years of Russian occupation?

Ahh, yes, Latvians demonstrating their European values annually.
(Zoran, 16 March 2012 14:04)

Why do some still see Ratko Mladic as a hero?

This is too funny. This article has nothing to do with Albanians, not even a comment from one to react to. Yet you people drift away from the topic.
But hey, its okay. Just remember that nowadays you'll find more neo-nazi serbs in Belgrade, than in Kosovo, Albania and west FYROM combined. Fact is that theres a huge nazi scene in Serbia. You're quite fast when it comes to blame others for their past, but your people still follow that ideology to this day..

Ahh, yes, Latvians demonstrating their European values annually.

In an April 13, 1950 message from the U.S. High Commission in Germany (HICOG), signed by General Frank McCloy to the Secretary of State, clarified the US position on the "Baltic Legions": they were not to be seen as "movements", "volunteer", or "SS". In short, they were not given the training, indoctrination, and induction normally given to SS members. Subsequently the US Displaced Persons Commission in September 1950 declared that:
The Baltic Waffen-SS Units (Baltic Legions) are to be considered as separate and distinct in purpose, ideology, activities, and qualifications for membership from the German SS, and therefore the Commission holds them not to be a movement hostile to the Government of the United States.

They honor the men who were fighting to prevent the situation that eventually happened in Kosovo, what became overflooded by inturders from Albania. Russians were deporting the baltics to Siberia and bringing immigrants instead in order to change population ratio - similar thing happened in Kosovo - and those very russians who only promised to help Serbs...
Russians and Germans are good, but only from distance. NO ONE LIKED Germans as they got kicked during liberation wars in 1918-20(after being rulers for 700 yrs from which 300 in Russian Empire with official German language in the Baltic governorates), as well got kicked Red Russians, who kind of liberated us...BUT FORGOT TO GO HOME.

They honor the men who were fighting to prevent the situation that eventually happened in Kosovo, what became overflooded by inturders from Albania.
(from the Baltics, 16 March 2012 18:11)

When did this happen? Cite sources please.In case you don't know the only intruders in the Balkans are the slavs.This serbs that you try to support while they are trying to trash your people, are invaders in the Balkans. They did not bring any land with them when they left the mountains of Iran. Everything they claim as theirs now, they stole it.

(really, 16 March 2012 15:59)

You skipped the part about the Serbian participants, the Srpski dobrovoljački korpus also deserves its rightful place in history.

I know Latvians, they are not Nazi backers, for sure. It's true that they despise the Russians, but they certainly are not fascists. Although I do remember one of them saying that black people have smaller brains, medically proven, of course. One thing for sure though, the bastards can drink.

Why do some still see Ratko Mladic as a hero?
(Avni, 16 March 2012 16:17)

Since you crave coming back here again and again - they just want to satisfy your needs.
If we would briefly comment something not very good about Ratko Mladc and continue to talk with Zoran about real problems of Serbia (H., R., A.) like government not keeping it's contract obligations, corruption, small busines problems and so on you will be bored and feel you did not get your time and money worth on B92.

Therefore we satisfy your needs to hear about Ratko Mladic's "Very Violent Russian Bears of Medvedja Fed By Body Parts Of Killed Albanians™" and you are happy.

You just given a superb customer support, that is. If you looking for veggies with fish, you can get sushi

http://tinyurl.com/6rkkhwo

If you come here as a scavenger Tiranasaurus, you get some rotten meat, but than don't complain, that meat is stinky. Serbs just assume, Tiranasaurus does not like veggies + rice + seaweed.

Great isn't it,this NAZI filth crawls from the sewer in a country thats in the EU and NATO,the new REICH.

“Yes , Batista is a SOB but he is our SOB with no questions asked” – this is the original of the well known phrase by Allen Dales. Same is the Western attitude for the 3 out of mind Baltic states. They close eyes at everything they do only because of the hatred they feel for Russia. The Latvian Waffen SS defended Reichstag , Estonia was the only state where Holocaust had 100% “success” (nobody has escaped) and Lithuania was nothing better. But if the Americans already believe it was them who defeated Hitler then Baltic scoundrels are nothing worse with their manipulations. Thank you B92 for paying attention to it !

The number one Nazi supporter Robert Leonard Rope must be very satisfied now.

reports from Latvia suggested that albanians and croats also took part in the celebrations of their shared nazi past, but it was the albanians that demanded a separate site that was for albanians only, autonomous from Latvians. Furthermore, they threatened civil unrest and violence if they didn't' get what they wanted, reminding Latvians that Illiyrians were the native peoples to these lands as well. They concluded that if they were successful in lying to the world about Serbs and getting away with it, why not test the waters again and ask for NATO intervention on their behalf again. The saga continues.

Why do some still see Ratko Mladic as a hero?
(Avni, 16 March 2012 16:17)
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Staying on topic, if you are a Nazi lover then just go ahead and admit it. Why hide it? Albanians were Nazi supporters along with Bosnian Muslims and Croatians. You guys got your reward from Germany so you will likely start celebrating it like the Latvians, right?

Why isn't my link being shown?

"RIGA -- Hundreds of Latvians gathered in Riga on Friday to pay tribute to soldiers who fought on the side of Nazi Germany in Waffen SS detachments in World War II."

Hopefully B92 is correct and hope in Latvia there are no more just several HUNDRED of people who openly support Nazis. If you look at the picture - all they in the age soon to face the Creator. Latvia's population is roughly two million, same about as of Kosovo.

With quite a lot of disrespect to Latvia's post-Soviet era - here they are far ahead. I wish for Kosovo to have no more, than few hundred nazis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbP2EyF8d34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuhGN8r6nW8

Looking at the hate the nazi Albanians spread here, I am not very optimistic. And yes, Robert Leonard Rope is either a major nazi or a major idiot or both. Probably both because one just can't be a major nazi and not to be a major idiot.

Sorry, Kenny, go and sell your peanuts somewhere else. Serbs are the most anti-Nazi people I know. You are confusing todays soccer hooligans with Nazis, common mistake with mental midgets like yourself. Your people, Albanians, have a direct historic link with Hitler's and Mussolini's Nazi machine. Your grand daddies were proud of that, so don't be ashamed now. Serbs were on the winning side of WWII, the Albanians, as usual, sided with the losers. Wonder if history will repeat itself again, probably.

Aaaah yes, those 'European Values' at their best, shared by the Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians as well. Wunderbar!!

Everything they claim as theirs now, they stole it.
(Mark, 16 March 2012 21:56)

You did read way to much fan fiction and Harry Potter. But the reality is even more serious. Slavs are preparing to steal even more land. We have Latvian mercenaries who in this moment sharpen their knives and learn from Serbs how to use old, rusty spoons properly. The Latvian spoon-commando is steered secretly by Shlomo Miloshewitz from the basement of the Dohány Street synagogue. The ultimate goal is no more and no less, than to liquidate the Greatest Enemy of Waldemar Puqine, Robert Leonard Rope.

This is a dark, evil secret of the neo-masonic Legend Of Ancient Slavic Zoroastrism (LOFASZ) sect.

really, 16 March 2012 15:59)

You skipped the part about the Serbian participants, the Srpski dobrovoljački korpus also deserves its rightful place in history.
(?, 16 March 2012 16:14)

Let's not forget Pavle Djurisic and his Iron Cross medal that he got from Hitler.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pavle_%C4%90uri%C5%A1i%C4%87_Iron_Cross.jpg

This is too funny. This article has nothing to do with Albanians, not even a comment from one to react to. Yet you people drift away from the topic.
(Kenny, 16 March 2012 19:30)

It's dead-on because 30000 years ago Latvia was part of Dardania. It just waits to become part of Natural Albania. Dardania IS the mythical Atlantis, the only what remains from the highly developed Atlantide civilization are the Albanian Railways.

Stolen Mercedes cars all over Durres station

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/misc/017_15.jpg

and sheep all over Tirana station.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/misc/tir_staz.jpg

Riga sux horribly in comparison

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/station/Riga/Riga.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/station/Riga/LV_442.jpg

And the Latvian trains... yuck, how can people live like that?

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/car/20060913_131.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/car/010.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/car/LV_144.jpg

Most disgusting is the Latvian train in Russia - disgusting train in disgusting country. Yuck.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/lv/car/001.jpg

This is the way to go! That's for Szemi again, he seem to enjoy Albanian trains.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/car/014_12.jpg

Full air-conditioned cars:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/car/HSH_07.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/car/HSH_16.jpg

Safety installation, very-very safe:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/al/misc/Vora_20060318_dominopult.jpg

This is North Korean, by the way, just for comparison

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ne/North_Korea/car/20061225_009.jpg


Looks like the Dardanian Atlantide civilization was a very-very advanced one.

Hitlerism was certainly evil. But one could not honestly divide the historical figures of the time on “good” and “bad” solely on the ground of whether one fought against Hitler, or sought co-operation with him. Millions of people in Eastern Europe co-operated with the Nazis naively hoping to correct the evils of the Versailles system or to forestall the looming communist treat. On the other hand the struggle against Hitler could not be used as an excuse for the horrendous communist crimes committed before, during and especially after the war!

Why isn't my link being shown?
(Avni, 16 March 2012 22:20)

Why are you still here?

Should they rather celebrate the 60 years of Russian occupation?
(?, 16 March 2012 14:42)

Latvia had a movement that fought both Soviets and Nazis, why not support them, your question and those marching sum up whats wrong with US and Western policy. This is how the chaos begins again, we as humans have learnt s*&t. Either way were it not for the Soviet sacrifices (no they were not perfect no-one was) we might have all been looking into blue eyes and blond hair clones, offcourse only if we possesed blue eyes and blond hair.

@(AN/C/C, 18 March 2012 13:54)

I'm not saying Romania is celebrating Germany, i'm just saying that it's all right that the latvian( romanian, whatever) people to celebrate those who fought and died for their country. I think it's our right to honour their sacrifice.Regardless who's ally they were at the time.

Americans were allied with the raping, stealing soviets and I'm not seeing anyone regreting it.

I still haven't met one Romanian that lived in the days of the war who says something bad against the german army...Ask those same people about the behaviour of the soviet "liberating" army...

(Mihai, 18 March 2012 15:06

IMHO, those who served the Latvian Central Council, in Romania those under the King that fought both enemies were the only ones fighting for Romania. The rest were fighting for false ideology at the sacrifice of their nation, their faith and their minorities.

But you must ask yourself a question how many souls did the views such as the Iron guard push into the faithless society. In newly conquered areas of Russia many viewed the Germans as liberators until their ideology was brutally forced upon them, Stalin’s job recruiting was made easy, those peasants who joined took with them the behaviour of vengeance. It’s about understanding the complexities as you say.

Putin and Iliescu (the former President you haven’t met) condemned both the Nazi proxies and Stalin so I’m glad those parades aren’t happening in Romania.

Riga,


As I have understanding for some regretful happenings I do not celebrate them. Many Serbs chose war against the Nazis and Communists many Serbs celebrate Mihalovic. Nedic had to do what he had to, this is no cause for celebration just understanding and seeking of forgiveness.

Regret is no cause for celebration.

Excellent that in spite of the desinformation and ignorance, some countries pay tribute to the Waffen SS.

Your comments show how simplistic and ignorant most people are. WWII was NOT a simple affair, between good and evil, black and white. Especially for the small countries.

Any small country in the East had to choose between two EVILS: soviet or nazi. Neither was perfect, but you have to choose. What do you do? If you're Christian, traditional european country, you choose the internationalist, atheist soviets? Or do you choose the jew haters from Germany? There's no easy choice. And the "beautifull"west has it's own HUGE FAULT for that.

For instance, my country, Romania. We had a security guarantee from France and England. When Germany attacked Polland, what did they do? Nothing. Along with our stupid politicians, they alowed Hitler and Stalin to carve the East. That's how the Soviet Union came to steal a province from us, Hungary and Bulgary another. When Germany came and said: "look, we cannot guarantee that you'll get everything back, but at least you'll have what the soviets took and leave you and you beliefs alone", what should we have done?

It wasn't perfect, but it was the best thing at the time. Sure, it's so easy NOW, when you're sitting in your couch, drinking a coca-cola or a starbucks coffee to point the finger...Anyone who survived the SOVIET GULAG can testify that ANYTHING was better than soviet rule. So, yes, my foreparents fought against the SOVIET UNION, against bolshevism, against atheism and i respect their memory. And besides: fighting alongside the nazis doesn't always mean that you were a "jew eater".

When in the Soviet Unions, thousands of liberated people came to the Romanian Army priest for BAPTISM. There are pictures of imense relief and joy when a parent could baptise it's child or even himself. There's nothing wrong with that.

I'm sorry, but

Looks like the Dardanian Atlantide civilization was a very-very advanced one.
(Ataman, 17 March 2012 00:49)

It looks like You Jahudi still have that cronic running diarrhea from your mouth against Albanians. That sindrom comes from Identity Crises that people like you have.
Shalom

Today that hard choice is no longer necessary is my point, there is no necessity to have a parade or to recognise those who wished to make your country a fifth column that also tainted those original spiritual beliefs. Many countries and groups made painful third choices because they believed neither group reflected their beliefs. Read about the Nazi racial policies regarding the Slavs for instance and how much some could have gained but rejected,
http://www.enotes.com/topic/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany

Armia Krajowa one such group resisted both and I understand the complexities to the point that some resistance groups had to sit out or manoeuvre sometimes using one against the other on the battlefield at times. Essentially those actions were not an endorsement of their will to either, but, to defeat both which does not diminish their achievements or their contribution to freedom, right to a parade. But why today would anyone of fit conscious would want recognition of Latvia’s axis actions, why parade embracing an evil that tainted/contradicted their spiritual beliefs? Or in Romania to support those that signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact that divided Romania along the same lines in the first place? Or parade association of the systematic slaughter of people in the absence of violent provacations, but soley on race? I agree with you though on your point regarding guarantees, those were weak.

On Baptism, yes most say it is a most joyful experience, a wonderful undertaking of the Christian right of admission, the clauses the SS/Wehrmacht and it’s legacy put on practising Christians was soulless. I understand a lot of regretful WW2 complexities, I just can’t get my head around celebrating or parading those regrets as in Latvia. Romania has a lot more going for it in my eyes then to celebrate or parade an SS past and so should Latvia.

Quick question to the know-all self-proclaimed "anti-nazis" of this site: who would you rather have, Hitler or Stalin. That was the choice left to the Baltic countries. A mass murderer or a mass murderer?

Let's not forget to add to Pavle Djuresic and his services those of Milan Nedic and his three year long government made up of ministers, vice-ministers, directors, whole departments, police, etc etc. A lot of people, that is.