We won’t use footnote forever, Kosovo official says

I have a question for you, Selami, Pristina had a delegation travel to, and attend a meeting in Belgrade yesterday, what would the reaction have been had a Serbian delegation come to a meeting in Pristina? How would the Albanian population have reacted to that? My guess, riots. In any case, temporary does not mean one meeting, it means until further agreement of BOTH sides. Enjoy your asterisk, and be happy you have that. I have always said, give the Albanians an inch, and right away they want a foot.

KEEP DREAMING..THE FOOTNOTE ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE...........Once again KOSOVO JE SRCE SRBIJE! KOSOVO IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE SRBIJA!!!!! If the Albanian leadership had any brains they would have accepted the autonomy that was offered to them over the years from Serbia. This way they will end up with nothing. The world is watching and the aggressive behaviour, rioting and squabbling that Albaninas are creating in Kosovo, Macedonia and now Montenegro will not go over well with world leaders. The balkans is a hot bed right now which can erupt any minute.

It wasn't easy to take Kosovo back from Serbia though.
(EA, 16 March 2012 13:12)

Well you sure as hell didn't take it back yourselves. Lets just conveniently forget NATO bombing Serbia's infrastructure for you people. Only thing is you haven't done them the service of being any civilized after they helped you.

Now its clear you wont have much other than words from your Western friends...I'd like to see you 'take back' Kosovo next time :)

winston

you are totally right. Albanians could not take on Serbia on their own. Serbia was heavily armed Albanians weren't. so to begin with, it wasn't a fair fight. however, what Albanians did do, according to Serbs here, is fool the rest of the world into thinking they were victims. i read it here, pretty much everyday, that Albanians lied and made the West feel sorry for them. do you know what this means however, Albanians are pretty smart. they have the capacity to FOOL the world for their own means, apparently, according to Serbs themselves. this is no small feat for a nation, who are dismissed here as nothing more than backwards, illiterate, unsophisticated and uncivilized simpletons who are ignorant of everything. guess what winston, it turns out, Albanians are actually a lot smarter than you give them credit for. I mean, it takes a smart person to fool NATO into bombing your enemies doesn't it?

I have always said, give the Albanians an inch, and right away they want a foot.
(winston, 16 March 2012 12:56)

winston,

You do not have to give Albanians anything, we take everything we believe is ours. It wasn't easy to take Kosovo back from Serbia though.

You do not have to give Albanians anything, we take everything we believe is ours. It wasn't easy to take Kosovo back from Serbia though. EA
You took back, tough guy/girl EA, or the NATO gave it to you? Let's be honest here. As far as believing Kosovo is yours (Albanian's), that's the problem in the South East Balkans, Albanians think that that entire area belongs to them, it does not. Never did, and never will. There simply isn't enough of you, to think that all that land is yours. So please, EA, you did not take anything from the Serbs, NATO did. Albanians could not take a you know what, without the US/EU/NATO.

B92 as well as other Serbian media should be fined for referring to the criminals in Pristina on a temporary basis as "Kosovo officials".

Grow up, Kosovo is no real country and its occupiers have no means of defending themselves from the inevitable re-integration with Serbia. Attacking senior citizens and raping 14 year old girls might catch peoples attention at your desperation, but it does not do nothing to strengthen your position on Serbia's land.

Instead of developing the institutions of the parts of Serbia you do occupy, you go for more and wants parts of Serbia which Albanians do not even live on. Mark my words, it is the stupidity and lack of self awareness by the Albanians in Kosovo, Macedonia and Montenegro that will ultimately lead to an end of separatist ambitions by criminal Albanians.

Let's see the West rationalize bombing 3 UN recognized countries to satisfy rabid Albanian ambitions..my guess is they wont because it is simply not worth it to them. You are not yet aware of this and are currently digging your own hole as we speak...lets hope it leads to a tunnel in Tirana :)

We got what we wanted(confirmation of UN1244 which says Kosovo is part of Serbia and EU candidate status) !
When it comes to electricity,economic issues,freedom of movement these Pristina gangsters WILL have to talk with Belgrade,if not,they will get even more isolated!
(CG, 16 March 2012 13:06)

Wonder why you forgot to mention ICJ opinion too? Serbia was the one asking ICJ, and got screwed big time.

@Ari Gold,
I suggest you wake from bad dreaming hat you been having for long time.

Correct they won't use the footnote for long. Because there is no footnote necessary when they are not at any of the events.

Enjoy trolls.

Than you wont participate in the regional sessions and you will get punished by the EU for ignoring "their" agreement ,for us Serbs that is fine ,too!
We got what we wanted(confirmation of UN1244 which says Kosovo is part of Serbia and EU candidate status) !
When it comes to electricity,economic issues,freedom of movement these Pristina gangsters WILL have to talk with Belgrade,if not,they will get even more isolated!

Albanians do not consider themselves to be Citizens of any Country, except a Greater Albania, yet if Serbia is foolish enough to let any Kosovo Albanians come to Serbia to look for work, then they will take advantage of the Hospitality of other Ethnicities, that some would consider this to be Stupidity, because Kosovo Albanians’ only Country is Greater Albania.

We see that President Sarkozy is considering that France should leave the Schengen Agreement unless action is taken to reduce the number of illegal immigrants.

A Country should take care of People who Acknowledge that they are Citizens of that Country, and for those who have the Papers to prove it, before they can provide jobs for foreigners.

The Overwhelming Majority of Albanians of Kosovo do not Acknowledge that they are Serbian Citizens, but that they say that they are foreigners, and that their Country is Greater Albania.

The Asterisks on the Kosovo Albanian name for their representation in Regional conferences does not mean anything to them, because their policy is to create a Reality on the Ground, and this policy has advanced their cause for an Ethnically pure Greater Albania.

The Albanians have already stated their Attitude on the Asterisk, by saying that it will melt away with the snow, and everyone should be certain that the Kosovo Albanians are working on that.

The Good, Proper, and Acceptable thing to do is for all Continent European Countries to stop their support for the unilateral declaration of independence by the Albanians of Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.

EA
You mean ... take Kosovo* away from Serbia don't you?
Did you take the footnote from Serbia?
By the way, does the name plate read Kosova* or Kosovo*?

Agim
Probably because te ICJ opinion has no impact on status. It ruled thy there is no international law that prohibits declarations of independence. So, the mitrovica Serbs could declare independence, and the declaration would not be in violation of any international law. Agim, based on the decision, you and your family can declare an independent Agimistan and the declaration would not violate any international law. That's the essence of it.
In any case, the Kosovo* footnote starts with the phrase, without any prejudice to status ... which only confirms that the ICJ opinion does not touch on the issue.

simply put, you and your nation will have a footnote by your name as long as Serbia says so.

“We have not changed our name. It says in the agreement that it is a temporary solution,” he told Austrian news agency APA.

Correct. Just like Kosovo current status in general is only temporary (UNSCR1244) until a mutual agreed solution is reached.

No, Nicolle, the Albanians did not fool or persuade anyone with their "victims" act. The USA was intent on establishing a long-term presence in the Balkans, that is why they built Bondsteel. Bondsteel, btw, must have been conceived, planned, constructed, years before a single NATO bomb fell on the former Yug. It was manned right after the bombing stopped in 1999. So you tell me, did the Americans have plans on being in the Balkans before the bombing? Please tell me also why they took the KLA off of their State Dept. Terrorist list? Is it because they needed them to do their ground work? So, please grow up, Nicolle, this entire Kosova nation building project is the work of America, and Albanians were used by them to achieve that end. Enjoy your Kosova*, American style.

Whatever, doria. Serbia does not consider Kosovo an Albanian state, especially the Serbs in the North of KiM. Fule can blab all the EU policy he wants, and you guys can suck it in till you croak. The Serbs in North KiM have been voting in elections all this time since NATO/USA stopped bombing us (Serbs and Albanians), so why should Serbs not have elections this year. It is just another push by the EU to complete their nation building. They think now that they gave Serbia the "Status Carrot", Serbs should buckle to every EU demand. Go fly a kite, Fule. It's a beautiful day and you should be outdoors. Instead you have to repeat this EU mumbo jumbo BS day in day out. Amazing what people will do for a good living. I would be embarrassed.

“We do not want to control the Serbs in the north. They can get their local self-governments just like other municipalities and we would not impose anything on them. They can continue to live they way they do now but they would have a voice in Priština,” he explained.

So in other words, they continue to be exactly as the are now, but have a voice in Pristina? Does he REALLY want them to have a voice in Pristina? That's like letting Vetenvedosije have a voice in Belgrade :)

(Nikolle, 17 March 2012 00:26)

Spare yourself the trouble of interacting with this Winston character. He is just a clueless kid who thinks he knows it all. His primary source of knowledge is a page called slobodan-milosevic.org. So what do you expect?

Petrit,

You care correct the footnote will be used until your current masters (EU & USA) revert authority of KiM back to Serbia.

Anthropologist, giving Serbs a voice in Pristina is EU policy, not that of the Albanians. If the Albanians could have their way, their would, let's see, ZERO Serbs and any other minority in KiM. Listening to this fecal matter that comes out of Pristina on a daily basis is painful. Even I take a day off from B92 often. The truth is, the EU is trying to nation build, a project the US started, and has now thrown into the EU's lap. Believe me, the EU would like nothing better than to distance itself from the Balkans completely. They consider all of us crude, unsophisticated, and barbaric. It pains them to even think of the Balkans in the EU, but they must go forward with this project now that they are knee deep into it. Pristina makes noise, because they know they have the EU's backing. The BG DS government acts tough, because they know that is what the consensus of voters want to hear. It's really an amazingly "nails on the chalkboard" agony what is going on between Pristina, EU, and BG. They are all full of it like a Christmas goose. I just feel sorry for all the citizens in Kosovo that are caught in the middle of all this politics. The West promotes hostility between the populace there, and now wants to promote a multi-ethnic state. You can't make this crap up. I am rambling, I know, but Jesus, when will the West, especially the USA, stop intervening in other nations' affairs? When will they stop these nation building projects? Take a look at every conflict in the world, the USA has/is involved in some manner or other, why? The Afghans want them out of their country, yet Washington arrogantly says, we will leave when we are ready. What is wrong with that scenario?

We won’t use footnote forever, Kosovo official says.

Oh, yes you will, yes you will !!

winston

Really interesting. I love history lessons here. allow me to tell you something that should be easy to follow even for extreme nationalists. the reason why the US is having such a hard time in Iraq and Afghanistan, is because people don't want them there, they see them as occupiers. The reason why in Kosova they face no such difficulties, is because people want them there, they seem them as liberators. Its not for nothing that people rushed from mountains and their hiding places to greet NATO with flowers in 1999. if you look at it like that, you may get onto something. you see, the more rational Serb, the one who can think logically sees without difficulty that Kosova is lost and its lost for a simple reason, those who live there want nothing to do with Serbia. Once you accept this very simple fact, its easy to get on with life. oh, and make up your minds, either Albanians lied about everytrhing, or they were in collusion with the US (which would still make them smarter than you think of them).

We won’t use footnote forever, Kosovo official says


Good for us. I like this can-do attitude.

"We won’t use footnote forever, Kosovo official says"

Fine, we will use our foot on your note. Enjoy the boots the foot is wearing.

The footnote is already dead. 2 meetings, zero effectiveness. Even the failing and undead UN Res.1244 had more life than this temporal product.

Hey people, if Albanians and Serbs don't agree there is an arbitr. Let see what does he say for election for example. http://kosovapress.com/?cid=2,92,144469
Let's wait what shall he say for regional meetings.

You would not be so angry if instead of a footnote in this case little star ,by the name of Kosovo stand one little svastika.I think that is the footnote that you would like to have !!!!

The truth It seems that some have forgotten how & why the albanians raised their voice! Kosovo was a vilayet of ottoman empire made up by albanians at 90% or more! Kosovo not the only what it is today but included half of fyrom was given as a chip to serbia because ottoman empire or to be more precise the young turks lost in the balkan wars & the great powers agreed cause they hoped that everything would be ok & the alb  population was not going to be persecuted but it turned out to be a great mistake cause serbs decided to cleanse kosovo ethnicly! Tito gave kosovo autonomy & kosovars lived quietly till 1981 when the autonomy was ripped off & everything went from bad to worse through the 90s till 1999 when it all came again to the great powers to undo the wrondoings of their former govts!  Why do albanians want kosovo??? Well thats their home and they  got nowhere to go?  How can you solve the problem?? Exchange territory! Give kosovo presheva valley & serbia gets  republica sprsca! As i said earlier kosovo was given to serbia by the great powers & was also taken by the great powers when they realized that serbs were not able to coexist with albanians! As far as numbers in the balkans ,albanians add up to around 7  million! 4 in albania including the seasonal immigrants in greece, 2 million in kosovo , 100 to 150 thousand in serbia, 100 thousand in montenegro,and around to 800 thousand to a 1 million in fyrom! So should we forget our language and who we are ???  No ! 

@Ari Gold,
I suggest you wake from bad dreaming hat you been having for long time.
(Agim Kelmendi, 16 March 2012 13:27)
--
Agim, Too good 2B true

""We won’t use footnote forever, Kosovo official says"

Fine, we will use our foot on your note. Enjoy the boots the foot is wearing.
Ataman"

If you could, you would.
But, you can't.
Now, go ahead and PROVE ME WRONG!!!!
The same goes for Srboljub (Winston), Peggy, and the list go on.

Whatever Serbia says, goes. Get it, K-Albs?

"Agim, based on the decision, you and your family can declare an independent Agimistan and the declaration would not violate any international law. That's the essence of it."
(mms, 16 March 2012 14:38)

But then he should be call himself a 'representive of the family of Agimestan' and not have any official position in the temporary institutions, otherwise he would violate UN1244. LOL

Probably because te ICJ opinion has no impact on status. It ruled thy there is no international law that prohibits declarations of independence.
(mms, 16 March 2012 14:38)

the ICJ wrote nowhere that "there is no international law that prohibits declarations of independence"... that is the myth that somebody built for consolation to Vuk's deafeat at the ICJ and you are just regurgitating it without even reading the ICJ Opinion to verify whether the ICJ really said that or not.

That myth is as true as the other myth of Kosovo's UDI being in violation of 1244. Serbs many times sound like a crowd of people who buy anything they are told to.

the icj opinion declared that "the declaration of independence of the 17 February 2008 did not violate general international law because international law contains no 'prohibition on declarations of independence'."
Read it yourself.
You must be reading the version translated into Albanian or Kosovaranian*
(mms, 17 March 2012 23:33)

Read it ?! Where ? At the Wikipedia article about the ICJ Opinion you are quoting from ? That article is wrong. That sentence you’ve put in quotes was never declared by the ICJ. I’m telling you for the second time; go and read the actual opinion at the ICJ website and you’ll find that you were wrong with your first citation at 16 March 2012 14:38 and the modified one above from Wikipedia.

The Court never said that “international law contains no prohibition on declarations of independence”. That is a myth for people like you who have never read the ICJ Opinion.

Actually if you read the copy of the agreement provided by B92 the Kosovo delegation is probably right. It is ambiguious and open for interpretation but it should not have been on the placard at the table. Up until reading it I was under the opinion that it was the placard that carried the footnote, but I was relying mainly on the Serbian press interpretation as I had not seen the actual elements of the agreement.
It says that Kosovo* is the only denomination to be used with the * represented by the footnote.
However it goes on to say that
"Hosts of meetings will be encouraged to avoid the display of national symbols except for their own and those of the EU, taking into account the statutes of relevant organizations"
Which would indicate the placards themselves should be void of any state symbols. Therefore Republic of Serbia would be Serbia and Kosovo* would simply be Kosovo. However any agreements signed would be signed by a representative of Kosovo with the Kosovo* designation and footnote at the bottom of the page.
Of course it is no surprise that it was not more concrete. It was a rushed agreement so that Serbia could get the candidate status before the elections coming up.

of course there will be reintegration, and it will also take time, that´s exactly what I was always saying, ..mr Selimi seems to understand how reintegrations take place... =)

the only thing is, it will be the other way around! Serbia will reintegrate the temporarily occupied southern serbian province. don´t ever make the mistake to believe that you will get away with our land, my dear k-albanian friends. you only live there, but it is not yours...

but, until you comprehend that, it will take time. just like one of your comrades said it.

and we Serbia has time, Serbia is nearby and will be ready.

"Agim, based on the decision, you and your family can declare an independent Agimistan and the declaration would not violate any international law. That's the essence of it."
(mms, 16 March 2012 14:38)

It depends; if Agim changes the name of Agimistan to Kosovo and backdates the declaration of independence to 17 Feb 2008, then it would not violate any international law

I hate doing other people's homework icj1:

Look at the opinion:

General international law contains no applicable prohibition of declarations of independence

Pls stop wasting our time. You must be reading the Albanian translation.
(mms, 19 March 2012 04:20)

But still did not show where the ICJ opinion said that "international law contains no applicable prohibition of declarations of independence". Don't search anymore - it did not say it anywhere.

"General international law" and "international law" are not the same thing, dear, even though they may sound the same thing to you. "General international law" is a subset of "international law".

So, even though any declaration of independence is in accordance with "general international law", it does not mean it is in accordance with "international law", otherwise the ICJ would have asnwered the legal question of the accordance of the UDI with international law in 2 pages and not in 14 LOL. Being in accordance with "general international law" is a necessary but not sufficient condition to be in accordance with "international law".

But, at least you finally understood that your initial statement was wrong, the Wikipedia article you were then quoting from is wrong and you finally got to read the actual ICJ Opinion.

Comm. Parrisson:
That was funny. Thx for the laugh.

icj1:

the icj opinion declared that "the declaration of independence of the 17 February 2008 did not violate general international law because international law contains no 'prohibition on declarations of independence'."

Read it yourself.

You must be reading the version translated into Albanian or Kosovaranian*

I hate doing other people's homework icj1:

Look at the opinion:

General international law contains no applicable prohibition of declarations of independence

Pls stop wasting our time. You must be reading the Albanian translation.

I have always said, give the Albanians an inch, and right away they want a foot.
(winston, 16 March 2012 12:56)

winston,

You do not have to give Albanians anything, we take everything we believe is ours. It wasn't easy to take Kosovo back from Serbia though.

winston

you are totally right. Albanians could not take on Serbia on their own. Serbia was heavily armed Albanians weren't. so to begin with, it wasn't a fair fight. however, what Albanians did do, according to Serbs here, is fool the rest of the world into thinking they were victims. i read it here, pretty much everyday, that Albanians lied and made the West feel sorry for them. do you know what this means however, Albanians are pretty smart. they have the capacity to FOOL the world for their own means, apparently, according to Serbs themselves. this is no small feat for a nation, who are dismissed here as nothing more than backwards, illiterate, unsophisticated and uncivilized simpletons who are ignorant of everything. guess what winston, it turns out, Albanians are actually a lot smarter than you give them credit for. I mean, it takes a smart person to fool NATO into bombing your enemies doesn't it?

I have a question for you, Selami, Pristina had a delegation travel to, and attend a meeting in Belgrade yesterday, what would the reaction have been had a Serbian delegation come to a meeting in Pristina? How would the Albanian population have reacted to that? My guess, riots. In any case, temporary does not mean one meeting, it means until further agreement of BOTH sides. Enjoy your asterisk, and be happy you have that. I have always said, give the Albanians an inch, and right away they want a foot.

B92 as well as other Serbian media should be fined for referring to the criminals in Pristina on a temporary basis as "Kosovo officials".

Grow up, Kosovo is no real country and its occupiers have no means of defending themselves from the inevitable re-integration with Serbia. Attacking senior citizens and raping 14 year old girls might catch peoples attention at your desperation, but it does not do nothing to strengthen your position on Serbia's land.

Instead of developing the institutions of the parts of Serbia you do occupy, you go for more and wants parts of Serbia which Albanians do not even live on. Mark my words, it is the stupidity and lack of self awareness by the Albanians in Kosovo, Macedonia and Montenegro that will ultimately lead to an end of separatist ambitions by criminal Albanians.

Let's see the West rationalize bombing 3 UN recognized countries to satisfy rabid Albanian ambitions..my guess is they wont because it is simply not worth it to them. You are not yet aware of this and are currently digging your own hole as we speak...lets hope it leads to a tunnel in Tirana :)

KEEP DREAMING..THE FOOTNOTE ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE...........Once again KOSOVO JE SRCE SRBIJE! KOSOVO IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE SRBIJA!!!!! If the Albanian leadership had any brains they would have accepted the autonomy that was offered to them over the years from Serbia. This way they will end up with nothing. The world is watching and the aggressive behaviour, rioting and squabbling that Albaninas are creating in Kosovo, Macedonia and now Montenegro will not go over well with world leaders. The balkans is a hot bed right now which can erupt any minute.

Than you wont participate in the regional sessions and you will get punished by the EU for ignoring "their" agreement ,for us Serbs that is fine ,too!
We got what we wanted(confirmation of UN1244 which says Kosovo is part of Serbia and EU candidate status) !
When it comes to electricity,economic issues,freedom of movement these Pristina gangsters WILL have to talk with Belgrade,if not,they will get even more isolated!

We got what we wanted(confirmation of UN1244 which says Kosovo is part of Serbia and EU candidate status) !
When it comes to electricity,economic issues,freedom of movement these Pristina gangsters WILL have to talk with Belgrade,if not,they will get even more isolated!
(CG, 16 March 2012 13:06)

Wonder why you forgot to mention ICJ opinion too? Serbia was the one asking ICJ, and got screwed big time.

@Ari Gold,
I suggest you wake from bad dreaming hat you been having for long time.

You do not have to give Albanians anything, we take everything we believe is ours. It wasn't easy to take Kosovo back from Serbia though. EA
You took back, tough guy/girl EA, or the NATO gave it to you? Let's be honest here. As far as believing Kosovo is yours (Albanian's), that's the problem in the South East Balkans, Albanians think that that entire area belongs to them, it does not. Never did, and never will. There simply isn't enough of you, to think that all that land is yours. So please, EA, you did not take anything from the Serbs, NATO did. Albanians could not take a you know what, without the US/EU/NATO.

Correct they won't use the footnote for long. Because there is no footnote necessary when they are not at any of the events.

Enjoy trolls.

Albanians do not consider themselves to be Citizens of any Country, except a Greater Albania, yet if Serbia is foolish enough to let any Kosovo Albanians come to Serbia to look for work, then they will take advantage of the Hospitality of other Ethnicities, that some would consider this to be Stupidity, because Kosovo Albanians’ only Country is Greater Albania.

We see that President Sarkozy is considering that France should leave the Schengen Agreement unless action is taken to reduce the number of illegal immigrants.

A Country should take care of People who Acknowledge that they are Citizens of that Country, and for those who have the Papers to prove it, before they can provide jobs for foreigners.

The Overwhelming Majority of Albanians of Kosovo do not Acknowledge that they are Serbian Citizens, but that they say that they are foreigners, and that their Country is Greater Albania.

The Asterisks on the Kosovo Albanian name for their representation in Regional conferences does not mean anything to them, because their policy is to create a Reality on the Ground, and this policy has advanced their cause for an Ethnically pure Greater Albania.

The Albanians have already stated their Attitude on the Asterisk, by saying that it will melt away with the snow, and everyone should be certain that the Kosovo Albanians are working on that.

The Good, Proper, and Acceptable thing to do is for all Continent European Countries to stop their support for the unilateral declaration of independence by the Albanians of Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.

It wasn't easy to take Kosovo back from Serbia though.
(EA, 16 March 2012 13:12)

Well you sure as hell didn't take it back yourselves. Lets just conveniently forget NATO bombing Serbia's infrastructure for you people. Only thing is you haven't done them the service of being any civilized after they helped you.

Now its clear you wont have much other than words from your Western friends...I'd like to see you 'take back' Kosovo next time :)

EA
You mean ... take Kosovo* away from Serbia don't you?
Did you take the footnote from Serbia?
By the way, does the name plate read Kosova* or Kosovo*?

No, Nicolle, the Albanians did not fool or persuade anyone with their "victims" act. The USA was intent on establishing a long-term presence in the Balkans, that is why they built Bondsteel. Bondsteel, btw, must have been conceived, planned, constructed, years before a single NATO bomb fell on the former Yug. It was manned right after the bombing stopped in 1999. So you tell me, did the Americans have plans on being in the Balkans before the bombing? Please tell me also why they took the KLA off of their State Dept. Terrorist list? Is it because they needed them to do their ground work? So, please grow up, Nicolle, this entire Kosova nation building project is the work of America, and Albanians were used by them to achieve that end. Enjoy your Kosova*, American style.

Agim
Probably because te ICJ opinion has no impact on status. It ruled thy there is no international law that prohibits declarations of independence. So, the mitrovica Serbs could declare independence, and the declaration would not be in violation of any international law. Agim, based on the decision, you and your family can declare an independent Agimistan and the declaration would not violate any international law. That's the essence of it.
In any case, the Kosovo* footnote starts with the phrase, without any prejudice to status ... which only confirms that the ICJ opinion does not touch on the issue.

simply put, you and your nation will have a footnote by your name as long as Serbia says so.

Hey people, if Albanians and Serbs don't agree there is an arbitr. Let see what does he say for election for example. http://kosovapress.com/?cid=2,92,144469
Let's wait what shall he say for regional meetings.

Whatever, doria. Serbia does not consider Kosovo an Albanian state, especially the Serbs in the North of KiM. Fule can blab all the EU policy he wants, and you guys can suck it in till you croak. The Serbs in North KiM have been voting in elections all this time since NATO/USA stopped bombing us (Serbs and Albanians), so why should Serbs not have elections this year. It is just another push by the EU to complete their nation building. They think now that they gave Serbia the "Status Carrot", Serbs should buckle to every EU demand. Go fly a kite, Fule. It's a beautiful day and you should be outdoors. Instead you have to repeat this EU mumbo jumbo BS day in day out. Amazing what people will do for a good living. I would be embarrassed.

Anthropologist, giving Serbs a voice in Pristina is EU policy, not that of the Albanians. If the Albanians could have their way, their would, let's see, ZERO Serbs and any other minority in KiM. Listening to this fecal matter that comes out of Pristina on a daily basis is painful. Even I take a day off from B92 often. The truth is, the EU is trying to nation build, a project the US started, and has now thrown into the EU's lap. Believe me, the EU would like nothing better than to distance itself from the Balkans completely. They consider all of us crude, unsophisticated, and barbaric. It pains them to even think of the Balkans in the EU, but they must go forward with this project now that they are knee deep into it. Pristina makes noise, because they know they have the EU's backing. The BG DS government acts tough, because they know that is what the consensus of voters want to hear. It's really an amazingly "nails on the chalkboard" agony what is going on between Pristina, EU, and BG. They are all full of it like a Christmas goose. I just feel sorry for all the citizens in Kosovo that are caught in the middle of all this politics. The West promotes hostility between the populace there, and now wants to promote a multi-ethnic state. You can't make this crap up. I am rambling, I know, but Jesus, when will the West, especially the USA, stop intervening in other nations' affairs? When will they stop these nation building projects? Take a look at every conflict in the world, the USA has/is involved in some manner or other, why? The Afghans want them out of their country, yet Washington arrogantly says, we will leave when we are ready. What is wrong with that scenario?

We won’t use footnote forever, Kosovo official says.

Oh, yes you will, yes you will !!

“We have not changed our name. It says in the agreement that it is a temporary solution,” he told Austrian news agency APA.

Correct. Just like Kosovo current status in general is only temporary (UNSCR1244) until a mutual agreed solution is reached.

Petrit,

You care correct the footnote will be used until your current masters (EU & USA) revert authority of KiM back to Serbia.

We won’t use footnote forever, Kosovo official says


Good for us. I like this can-do attitude.

The footnote is already dead. 2 meetings, zero effectiveness. Even the failing and undead UN Res.1244 had more life than this temporal product.

"We won’t use footnote forever, Kosovo official says"

Fine, we will use our foot on your note. Enjoy the boots the foot is wearing.

You would not be so angry if instead of a footnote in this case little star ,by the name of Kosovo stand one little svastika.I think that is the footnote that you would like to have !!!!

Whatever Serbia says, goes. Get it, K-Albs?

"Agim, based on the decision, you and your family can declare an independent Agimistan and the declaration would not violate any international law. That's the essence of it."
(mms, 16 March 2012 14:38)

But then he should be call himself a 'representive of the family of Agimestan' and not have any official position in the temporary institutions, otherwise he would violate UN1244. LOL

“We do not want to control the Serbs in the north. They can get their local self-governments just like other municipalities and we would not impose anything on them. They can continue to live they way they do now but they would have a voice in Priština,” he explained.

So in other words, they continue to be exactly as the are now, but have a voice in Pristina? Does he REALLY want them to have a voice in Pristina? That's like letting Vetenvedosije have a voice in Belgrade :)

winston

Really interesting. I love history lessons here. allow me to tell you something that should be easy to follow even for extreme nationalists. the reason why the US is having such a hard time in Iraq and Afghanistan, is because people don't want them there, they see them as occupiers. The reason why in Kosova they face no such difficulties, is because people want them there, they seem them as liberators. Its not for nothing that people rushed from mountains and their hiding places to greet NATO with flowers in 1999. if you look at it like that, you may get onto something. you see, the more rational Serb, the one who can think logically sees without difficulty that Kosova is lost and its lost for a simple reason, those who live there want nothing to do with Serbia. Once you accept this very simple fact, its easy to get on with life. oh, and make up your minds, either Albanians lied about everytrhing, or they were in collusion with the US (which would still make them smarter than you think of them).

The truth It seems that some have forgotten how & why the albanians raised their voice! Kosovo was a vilayet of ottoman empire made up by albanians at 90% or more! Kosovo not the only what it is today but included half of fyrom was given as a chip to serbia because ottoman empire or to be more precise the young turks lost in the balkan wars & the great powers agreed cause they hoped that everything would be ok & the alb  population was not going to be persecuted but it turned out to be a great mistake cause serbs decided to cleanse kosovo ethnicly! Tito gave kosovo autonomy & kosovars lived quietly till 1981 when the autonomy was ripped off & everything went from bad to worse through the 90s till 1999 when it all came again to the great powers to undo the wrondoings of their former govts!  Why do albanians want kosovo??? Well thats their home and they  got nowhere to go?  How can you solve the problem?? Exchange territory! Give kosovo presheva valley & serbia gets  republica sprsca! As i said earlier kosovo was given to serbia by the great powers & was also taken by the great powers when they realized that serbs were not able to coexist with albanians! As far as numbers in the balkans ,albanians add up to around 7  million! 4 in albania including the seasonal immigrants in greece, 2 million in kosovo , 100 to 150 thousand in serbia, 100 thousand in montenegro,and around to 800 thousand to a 1 million in fyrom! So should we forget our language and who we are ???  No ! 

(Nikolle, 17 March 2012 00:26)

Spare yourself the trouble of interacting with this Winston character. He is just a clueless kid who thinks he knows it all. His primary source of knowledge is a page called slobodan-milosevic.org. So what do you expect?

of course there will be reintegration, and it will also take time, that´s exactly what I was always saying, ..mr Selimi seems to understand how reintegrations take place... =)

the only thing is, it will be the other way around! Serbia will reintegrate the temporarily occupied southern serbian province. don´t ever make the mistake to believe that you will get away with our land, my dear k-albanian friends. you only live there, but it is not yours...

but, until you comprehend that, it will take time. just like one of your comrades said it.

and we Serbia has time, Serbia is nearby and will be ready.

@Ari Gold,
I suggest you wake from bad dreaming hat you been having for long time.
(Agim Kelmendi, 16 March 2012 13:27)
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Agim, Too good 2B true

""We won’t use footnote forever, Kosovo official says"

Fine, we will use our foot on your note. Enjoy the boots the foot is wearing.
Ataman"

If you could, you would.
But, you can't.
Now, go ahead and PROVE ME WRONG!!!!
The same goes for Srboljub (Winston), Peggy, and the list go on.

"Agim, based on the decision, you and your family can declare an independent Agimistan and the declaration would not violate any international law. That's the essence of it."
(mms, 16 March 2012 14:38)

It depends; if Agim changes the name of Agimistan to Kosovo and backdates the declaration of independence to 17 Feb 2008, then it would not violate any international law

Probably because te ICJ opinion has no impact on status. It ruled thy there is no international law that prohibits declarations of independence.
(mms, 16 March 2012 14:38)

the ICJ wrote nowhere that "there is no international law that prohibits declarations of independence"... that is the myth that somebody built for consolation to Vuk's deafeat at the ICJ and you are just regurgitating it without even reading the ICJ Opinion to verify whether the ICJ really said that or not.

That myth is as true as the other myth of Kosovo's UDI being in violation of 1244. Serbs many times sound like a crowd of people who buy anything they are told to.

icj1:

the icj opinion declared that "the declaration of independence of the 17 February 2008 did not violate general international law because international law contains no 'prohibition on declarations of independence'."

Read it yourself.

You must be reading the version translated into Albanian or Kosovaranian*

I hate doing other people's homework icj1:

Look at the opinion:

General international law contains no applicable prohibition of declarations of independence

Pls stop wasting our time. You must be reading the Albanian translation.

Comm. Parrisson:
That was funny. Thx for the laugh.

the icj opinion declared that "the declaration of independence of the 17 February 2008 did not violate general international law because international law contains no 'prohibition on declarations of independence'."
Read it yourself.
You must be reading the version translated into Albanian or Kosovaranian*
(mms, 17 March 2012 23:33)

Read it ?! Where ? At the Wikipedia article about the ICJ Opinion you are quoting from ? That article is wrong. That sentence you’ve put in quotes was never declared by the ICJ. I’m telling you for the second time; go and read the actual opinion at the ICJ website and you’ll find that you were wrong with your first citation at 16 March 2012 14:38 and the modified one above from Wikipedia.

The Court never said that “international law contains no prohibition on declarations of independence”. That is a myth for people like you who have never read the ICJ Opinion.

Actually if you read the copy of the agreement provided by B92 the Kosovo delegation is probably right. It is ambiguious and open for interpretation but it should not have been on the placard at the table. Up until reading it I was under the opinion that it was the placard that carried the footnote, but I was relying mainly on the Serbian press interpretation as I had not seen the actual elements of the agreement.
It says that Kosovo* is the only denomination to be used with the * represented by the footnote.
However it goes on to say that
"Hosts of meetings will be encouraged to avoid the display of national symbols except for their own and those of the EU, taking into account the statutes of relevant organizations"
Which would indicate the placards themselves should be void of any state symbols. Therefore Republic of Serbia would be Serbia and Kosovo* would simply be Kosovo. However any agreements signed would be signed by a representative of Kosovo with the Kosovo* designation and footnote at the bottom of the page.
Of course it is no surprise that it was not more concrete. It was a rushed agreement so that Serbia could get the candidate status before the elections coming up.

I hate doing other people's homework icj1:

Look at the opinion:

General international law contains no applicable prohibition of declarations of independence

Pls stop wasting our time. You must be reading the Albanian translation.
(mms, 19 March 2012 04:20)

But still did not show where the ICJ opinion said that "international law contains no applicable prohibition of declarations of independence". Don't search anymore - it did not say it anywhere.

"General international law" and "international law" are not the same thing, dear, even though they may sound the same thing to you. "General international law" is a subset of "international law".

So, even though any declaration of independence is in accordance with "general international law", it does not mean it is in accordance with "international law", otherwise the ICJ would have asnwered the legal question of the accordance of the UDI with international law in 2 pages and not in 14 LOL. Being in accordance with "general international law" is a necessary but not sufficient condition to be in accordance with "international law".

But, at least you finally understood that your initial statement was wrong, the Wikipedia article you were then quoting from is wrong and you finally got to read the actual ICJ Opinion.