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Wednesday, 14.03.2012.

14:25

Ethnic Albanians stone bus in Macedonia

After two peaceful days in Macedonia a group of men from the ethnic Albanian village of Velesta stoned a bus near the south-western town of Struga, police say.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Nikolle

pre 12 godina

oh dear the Christian Taliban is among us. clearly you do not believe in personal freedom if you would not allow any of your tribesmen the right to choose any path they wished to salvation (though you're all wasting your time). it must have been hard for you to apparently spend time in kosova with KFOR (of course you never did, but that is something else). it must have been hard to do what many serb posters here feel KFOR really did, bring independence to Kosova. after all it was you (by being part of KFOR) that kept the Serb army out. so yes, we owe you our gratitude for making independence possible. many cheers

rickyrick

pre 12 godina

"No proof, only allegations so far.
If setting up and taking down barricades is an Olympic sport then Serbs will win gold, hands down.
If systematic and mass rape ever becomes an Olympic sport then you know who will win.
If starting and loosing many wars in one decade than you know who will win gold.
If assassinating elected politicians becomes an Olympic sport then you should fare well also.
If kicking out ambassadors and then inviting them back in becomes an Olympic sport you will win gold.
Burning embassies, enticing hatred toward minorities and believing in myths puts you on par with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. You are not guaranteed a medal but you would fare well.

My fingers are tired and it's getting late. I better rest.
Peace."

This comment deserves an epic medal. ultra-nationalistic serb will deny all these.

to Nikolle from exKFOR

pre 12 godina

you might have been born into Catholic family but seems that mentally you have joined the jihadists lines - it means backwardess and threat to humanity. I would never accept any of my tribesmen converting Islam (nor I can stand Jehova witnesses), what I have seen not only in KiM but in the Middle-East as well. Neither I would accept Communist who have caused almost as much misery as muslims. but if you enjoy your dhimmi status then you are free to do so.Hope that once the Serbs will take their land from Muslim invaders, then you can accomodate all of your islamo-illyrian tribesmen , who at the moment illegaly inhabit Kosovo, at you place - or actually then they would return to their homeland Albania. Good luck!

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

to to BT

aww how cute, you think of yourself as a Western person. guess what sunshine, I am born into a Catholic Albanian family (though I myself am an atheist) and I am happy Kosova is independent. deal with this other bit of info, majority of Muslim countries support Serbia, majority of Western Christian nations (though Christian in name only) support Kosova. somewhere along the line the wires must have been crossed.

to BT

pre 12 godina

"If all people in this world loved eachother you and be would not be here and " fight " but we would sit at the bar and have Rakija."

I tried to have slivo or even a beer in Srbica/Skenderaj back in 2004 but the local muslim brotherhood was stumping their chest declaring they were muslims and did not drink alco...the only thing they offered was hasish and other drugs - but I do not like that, so no friendship with majority Kosovo Albanians..lol
somebody from Albo camp asked whether some other commentator slept with the Bible - I do not think he/she needs to do that -facts remain facts Islam has nothing in common with Western values and civilization, which essentially is the result of Bible based culture transformation (not alway been nice,thoguh ) - muslims even have their own human rights - see the Cairo Declaration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Having said that, why you guys care what happens in Macedonia, since Macedonia is another country and not part of Belgrade!?
(Agim Kelmendi, 14 March 2012 18:50)

I could ask you the same thing. Why do you care what happens in Macedonia, or Kosovo* for that matter, since neither is part of the United States, where you live?

Tiranausurus

pre 12 godina

"Bus stoning, too, has to be part of olymics, not only girl-beating and organ-snatching.
The three disciplines where Albanians can't be beaten.
Ataman"

No proof, only allegations so far.
If setting up and taking down barricades is an Olympic sport then Serbs will win gold, hands down.
If systematic and mass rape ever becomes an Olympic sport then you know who will win.
If starting and loosing many wars in one decade than you know who will win gold.
If assassinating elected politicians becomes an Olympic sport then you should fare well also.
If kicking out ambassadors and then inviting them back in becomes an Olympic sport you will win gold.
Burning embassies, enticing hatred toward minorities and believing in myths puts you on par with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. You are not guaranteed a medal but you would fare well.

My fingers are tired and it's getting late. I better rest.
Peace.

BT

pre 12 godina

(MikeC, 14 March 2012 23:27)

#1 Criminals Serbs robbed G4S depo in Sweden last year

#2 psyco mihajlo mihajlovic ( serb ) killed Anna Lindh 2003

#3 Serbia is not going to be part of europe

#4 one Month ago Swedish police found 10 kilos of pure cocain in Stockholm. 3 guys arrested ( All serbs )

#4 Serbia is corrupted as well

#5 Serbia commited genocide in Bosnia

#6 Serbian Organized crime are various criminal organizations based in Serbia or composed of ethnic Serbs in the Serbian Diaspora. Serbian mafiosos are very active in European Union (EU) countries. The organizations are primarily involved in smuggling, arms trafficking, drug trafficking, protection rackets, illegal gambling, jewellery and gems theft, bodyguarding, and contract killings. The Mafia is composed of several major organized groups, which in turn have wider networks throughout Europe.

Do you want be to continue?

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Albanians stoned the bus because Slobodan Milosevic was in it.
(MikeC, 14 March 2012 16:37)
I think you are right. Albanian will stone everywhere they see the phantasm of Milosevic* passing. And everyone that try to implement the same policy against us will have the same fate.
*Milosevic is state that sees its citizens as enemy.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"The whole world know about serbs and what they are about."

Demi

And still serbs have schengen and is a EU candidate country. Just that says everything about albanians. At least you have corruption, drugtrade, terrorists trying to blow up americans, human trafficing etc.
Real contribution to humanity.

BT

pre 12 godina

(EU_Candidate, 14 March 2012 21:34)

Yeah so the whole world LOVES SERBS?
You trying to " diss " albanians in a dumb way. The are people who love and hate each other in this world. If some people in brookly, US don't love albanians then you find people in Stockholm ( Sweden/ where i live ) that hate serbs and they are non albanians but swedish guys. So what you trying to say that " the whole don't like albanians " ?. If all people in this world loved eachother you and be would not be here and " fight " but we would sit at the bar and have Rakija.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

For Christ sakes some people are so uneducated they would anything to reach there objectives, the murder of the two Albanians in gostivar was not ethnically or politically motivated.. Obviously are trying to politicize something in order to start.. This goes beyond any normal logic.. Evil

heron

pre 12 godina

blah blah blah..... i am albanian ! lets find a reasonable solution and lets talk , rather than blaming each other! we the people of balkans lets get together & solve the problems with respect to each otherS, LANGUAGE RELIGION TRADITIONS AND SYMBOLS!

EU_Candidate

pre 12 godina

BT, it's not only Serbs that dislike Albanians. Ask anyone that resides in the EU, or Brooklyn, USA, what they think of Albanians. The answers may shock you, but maybe not?

to nikshala

pre 12 godina

"secondly the albanians there will stop looking at the police in negative ways when the Macedonian goverment respects the Ohrid agreement and the percentage of albanians in police starts reflecting the percentage of albanian population in Macedonia"

Macedonians cannot aford to have Illyrians to become the cops - they only know how to yell allahu akbar - like those freedom fighters in the Middle East. Secondly, they would become double-corrupted policemen with the only goal to enable albo mafia to blossom and expand.
and somebody from among muslim apologist in this thread complained about Serbs commiting the worst crime in Europe after WWII - for jihaidist it was just a payback for the crimes they committed during the war together with other nazis - and it was muslim jihadist lead by Izetbebovic who started the last war - you reap what you sow...firstly prove that those KIA muslims were executed - there is no chance as most of them were not but were combatants - but eurocrats can flush the law which they themselves do not respect anyway.
I read in some Balkans news that Macedonian policeman was defending his daughter( relative) aganist marauding jihadist gang harassing this girl - and that I think was the justified outcome for the fashists...

BT

pre 12 godina

Unbelievable. No one in the world likes Albanians and although they keep on fuelling their extreme bad reputation as cowards. I dont get it.
(Staff, 14 March 2012 20:27)

Yeah nobody likes albanians but everybody in this world loves serbs, THEY Love SERBS DAMM!!
You should get a life.

Denis

pre 12 godina

As an Albanian I dont give a crap about the Koran, they can burn it, and all the mosques in Albanian lands. I don't care. I do realize that the islamic identity of Albanians in Macedonia is out of control and in the absence of a state to accomodate them, islam has become an ideology where they rely on to distinguish themselves from the slavs and rally against them. This is very sad. Islam is by far the most sinister ideology in that region for Albanians and others for that matter.

Macedonians on the other hand are worse. Not only from a religion standpoint. A few days ago 2 ethnic albanians were killed by an off duty police officer and they let him out on bail, 15 Alb kids were beaten to death, Albanian flag burned in public etc. Always trying to act cocky when they can't even sustain the conflict. This is very stupid. If they want to have a stable country they have to accomodate 30%+ of the population, which is Albanians, or else they will have no future as a country.The most unstable,identity lacking and fragile nation in the Balkans, is completely invested in internal fights, instead of unifying itslef to resist foreign pressures, how dumb is that? This country has no future.

Staff

pre 12 godina

Unbelievable. No one in the world likes Albanians and although they keep on fuelling their extreme bad reputation as cowards. I dont get it.

delon

pre 12 godina

Hey, Demi

How can you compare Serb holigans of what they did to Croatian fans,with Alb. holigans?!
Serbs only thro soft,very soft stones,and only burned with soft and slouly fire Croatians cars.
On the other hand Alb. holigang ,are criminals because they thro very hard ,really stones.you see the difference between them now?

nikshala

pre 12 godina

""lets not forget that the ethnic tensions started after an off duty Macedonian / Slav policeman shot dead two ethnic albanians" Nikshala
Nikshala, when Albanians stop looking at policemen as Slavs, then real progress can be made in forging a true multi-ethnic nation. As long as we look at the ethnic background of individuals, no peace can exist in a society. Are your saying that if the policeman was Albanian, and the victims were Slavs, then public transportation would be safe from Muslim rock throwers? I don't get it. You cannot take law into your own hands.
(asterisk, 14 March 2012 16:08) "

asterisk,

Firstly, the policeman WAS macedonian slav (as opposed to macedonian albanian - both albanians and slav in Macedonia are macedonians) and secondly the albanians there will stop looking at the police in negative ways when the Macedonian goverment respects the Ohrid agreement and the percentage of albanians in police starts reflecting the percentage of albanian population in Macedonia.

If you read my comment again and try to understand it rather than making assumptions, you will realise that I am not condoning the rock throwing or taking law into someone hands...I was merely responding to the commentators that were solely blaming the albanians for the raising of ethnic tensions there.

winston

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is a long-term project for the EU, EUdude. They have poured so many billions into KiM so far, that they have to keep going. And what return did they get on their Euro, zilch. There is still unrest between the Albanians and Serbs, forget what Belgrade says, they don't live there. There is economy to speak of, besides cafes, and buildings from laundered money. The criminal empires are still alive and well there, starting from within the Pristina government, to every ethnic Albanian village. Their are no minority returnees to speak of, as you have mentioned, in fact the ethnic cleansing of minorities still goes on. Buses of non Albanian companies are stoned on a regular basis, as the destruction of Orthodox monasteries still goes on. Now why would the EU support this Newborn in the Balkans - I think it has no way out. They fell into it knee deep, and there is no escape. But hey, it keeps NGO's, the NATO, military suppliers, drug mafia, and an endless supply of EU bureaucrats in business. You gotta love these nation building projects that the USA starts, and then dumps on the host continent.

ALB_MCSE

pre 12 godina

WINSTON
Read my post: ” Macedonian police officer ACUSED of killing”
I’m not accusing anyone of anything….. I did not use any religious/ethnic insults like Asterisk.
Yet you ask me if the bus stoning help the case?
Well why don’t you ask Asterisk what does help the case more the bus stoning or him baptizing people on this site?
Think about it.
Ps: Actually the Greek riots were by far worse with burning store cars and many injuries.
Respect

asterisk

pre 12 godina

Demi, I believe that this story is about Macedonia, and the unrest in the Albanian neighborhoods. Why are you pulling Serbia into this? Are you obsessed with Serbs?

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

This should be the final straw. These animals need to be taught a lesson because only that way will they learn. They need to be dealt with by force, the areas in which they dominate should be militarily occupied so that criminals be dealt with immediately.
(SCP UK, 14 March 2012 14:44)


The scenario described above, is badly need to take place in northern Mitro.ASAP

Having said that, why you guys care what happens in Macedonia, since Macedonia is another country and not part of Belgrade!?

Berk.

pre 12 godina

A broken windows...

Did UNSC already called for an emergency session? I'm sure Vuk is already in the plane, though it is not his country.

szemi

pre 12 godina

Bus stoning, too, has to be part of olymics, not only girl-beating and organ-snatching.
The three disciplines where Albanians can't be beaten.
(Ataman, 14 March 2012 15:51)

Have forgotten about Munich-Tirana rally with stolen cars,Durres-Brindisi motorboat race with illigal immigrants,uphill donkey riding ,verbal karate (only serious rival Orbán Vica) and throwing at train windows from distance(see your pictures about albanian trains).THank you drive through .

albanian farmer

pre 12 godina

Albanian terrorists at it again. Pretty obvious that Albanian terrorism is a worldwide trend. Some people just need to be dealt with using force. I hope the Macedonians put these criminals back in their place.
(Steve B., 14 March 2012 15:16)


Steve B,

I like your sarcasm.

EU Dude

pre 12 godina

Please don't be harsh over these albanian actions. It is just a cry for help. They simply can't help themselves. How long will it be before Brussels suddenly finds some funds to promote 'ethnic peace'in FYROM, i.e. pay off the ringmasters.

In the Meantime, Brussels has just announced a 3mEuro fund to build housing for those minorities 'who fled' (as western powers call people they don't like who have been ethnically cleansed) Kosovo, at the hands of KLA and friends, in the Konik refugee camp in Montenegro for those who 'do not wish to return to Kosovo'.

Brussels has given up on getting Pristina to treat minorities in Kosovo with anything like the normal standards that are expected in a modern Europe and instead wants to brush the issue under the carpet. Brussels demands the full right of return for refugees in the rest of the ex-SFRY but refuses to enforce this in Kosovo where over 200,000 are still denied this right.

Demi

pre 12 godina

We all know what happend to croatian handball fans when tey were on their way home from Serbia. We all know what serbian gangs did to them... It was very civilizied....

Serbs are the last people to talk. The whole world know about serbs and what they are about.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Stoning buses? It's an old Albanian tradition, nothing to worry aboutl, it happens regularly in Kosovo. Nice to see these habits spilling over to other countries where ethnic Albanians are the minority.

And threating with violence when some criminals are arrested and the police doesn't release them is nothing new, neither.

Kenny

pre 12 godina

Hooligans, just like the article says. Too bad it fails to mention them in the headline, as its quite misleading. But we're used to it.
There certainly have been ethnic tensions in FYROM the last couple of weeks, sparked by the incident in Gostivar. Football hools from both sides just took the opportunity to riot and cause trouble.
I'm not surprised by the one-sided coverage in the ex-yugo media(i.e. Serbia/FYROM), as long as the rest of the world is fair enough and tells the WHOLE story from start to finish, without skipping what they dont like.

mick

pre 12 godina

What childish behaviour!!

These guys need a slap in the face. What's the point of stoning a bus in another town plus making those people's live hard who have nothing to do with the incident!

If these guys are angry because of that police man then they should go to Tetovo and confront that police man.

But if this continues then like SCP UK said: the Military needs to be present in these albo villages to stop this childish behaviour!

AlbMCSE

pre 12 godina

Asterisk
“More fundamentalist Muslim barbarianism.……”
Macedonian police officer is accused of killing 2 young ethnic Albanians last week over a parking lot…
Macedonian State at best protecting its own citizen…..The victims were Albanians and yet you baptize them with names?
This bus stoning has nothing to do with religion Asterisk.
Example Greece went through larger riots in Athens when young kid was shot from a Greek police officer.
Serbia if I’m not wrong has experience related riots in the past as well.
Do you have any posting on this site naming “Serbian or Greek fundamentalist Orthodox barbarianism”?
I think you don’t and we all know why.
Respect
ALB_MCSE

winston

pre 12 godina

Nicolle, you post the same crap day after day about "worse crimes since WWII". Get a new point please, it's boring - and still an open issue, BTW. And yes, read the story, religion is at the heart of this matter. Albanians got their panties in a bunch, because some guy wore a mask or something at some carnival. That sure sounds like good reason for an uprising - or an excuse to throw stones at buses. Can't remember ever reading a story about Albanian acts of kindness in the Balkans, can you?

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"As long as we look at the ethnic background of individuals, no peace can exist in a society."

What on Earth is this article doing then? Why not just write bus stoned in Macedonia? my previous comment got edited for pointing that out

asterisk

pre 12 godina

"lets not forget that the ethnic tensions started after an off duty Macedonian / Slav policeman shot dead two ethnic albanians" Nikshala
Nikshala, when Albanians stop looking at policemen as Slavs, then real progress can be made in forging a true multi-ethnic nation. As long as we look at the ethnic background of individuals, no peace can exist in a society. Are your saying that if the policeman was Albanian, and the victims were Slavs, then public transportation would be safe from Muslim rock throwers? I don't get it. You cannot take law into your own hands.

winston

pre 12 godina

Why don't you mention the killin of 2 young men by a Macedonian police over a parking spot? What about 15 Albanian children that were beaten 2 of them into a coma by Macedonian youth? The burning of the Albanian flag and the silence of the Macedonian government over the issue? Une
Une, if a policeman actually killed 2 people over a parking space, which I find extremely difficult to believe, then allow the authorities to do their job and investigate the matter. Again, if the incident on the bus happened, allow the authorities to investigate and arrest the perps. As for burning an Albanian flag in Macedonia, so what? Residents in Macedonia do not live in Albania. Flags are burned all over the world, none more than America's - should the USA retaliate in each incident? Throwing rocks at public buses is not the answer to resolving ethnic tensions - dialogue is. And am I right in assuming from you, that Albanians have never been the instigators in hate crimes? I do not see you mention any of that.

winston

pre 12 godina

AlbMCSE, yes, there have been riots in many countries, and the Greek incident was during a riot at their own government, but I do not recall there ver being rocks thrown at public transportation in any of those cases. Innocent people are in those buses, not the perpetrators of the events you mention. If Albanians were killed without reason by a policeman, allow the authorities to do their work. How in the world can throwing rocks at a city bus help?

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

How does this title look to people here: Ethnic Serbs responsible for the worst massacre on European soil since WW2. p.s. what is it with this Islamic comments? was this action connected to religion or something?

Une

pre 12 godina

Why don't you mention the killin of 2 young men by a Macedonian police over a parking spot? What about 15 Albanian children that were beaten 2 of them into a coma by Macedonian youth? The burning of the Albanian flag and the silence of the Macedonian government over the issue?

nikshala

pre 12 godina

To the commentators below - lets not forget that the ethnic tensions started after an off duty Macedonian / Slav policeman shot dead two ethnic albanians and then masked assilants attacked albanian school children in a bus. This does not justify any revenge attacks from albanian side, but pointing the finger at albanians, using comments verging on racism and bringing religion into it when it has nothing to do with it, just shows your hatred expressed in pathetic ways. Grow up.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Bus stoning, too, has to be part of olymics, not only girl-beating and organ-snatching.
The three disciplines where Albanians can't be beaten.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Albanian terrorists at it again. Pretty obvious that Albanian terrorism is a worldwide trend. Some people just need to be dealt with using force. I hope the Macedonians put these criminals back in their place.

exKFOR

pre 12 godina

muslim supremacists in action. another example how europeans should not flirt with deathly ideology - like it was with Russian communits during Cold War

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

This should be the final straw. These animals need to be taught a lesson because only that way will they learn. They need to be dealt with by force, the areas in which they dominate should be militarily occupied so that criminals be dealt with immediately.

asterisk

pre 12 godina

More fundamentalist Muslim barbarianism, this time coming from Albanians. They say they are offended by someone wearing a mask at some carnival that mocked Islam, and this coming from people that swear they are mostly not religious at all. I think that Albanians can't wait to find a reason to cause trouble, in their attempt to form a greater (unnatural) Albania.

asterisk

pre 12 godina

More fundamentalist Muslim barbarianism, this time coming from Albanians. They say they are offended by someone wearing a mask at some carnival that mocked Islam, and this coming from people that swear they are mostly not religious at all. I think that Albanians can't wait to find a reason to cause trouble, in their attempt to form a greater (unnatural) Albania.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

This should be the final straw. These animals need to be taught a lesson because only that way will they learn. They need to be dealt with by force, the areas in which they dominate should be militarily occupied so that criminals be dealt with immediately.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Albanian terrorists at it again. Pretty obvious that Albanian terrorism is a worldwide trend. Some people just need to be dealt with using force. I hope the Macedonians put these criminals back in their place.

exKFOR

pre 12 godina

muslim supremacists in action. another example how europeans should not flirt with deathly ideology - like it was with Russian communits during Cold War

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Bus stoning, too, has to be part of olymics, not only girl-beating and organ-snatching.
The three disciplines where Albanians can't be beaten.

nikshala

pre 12 godina

To the commentators below - lets not forget that the ethnic tensions started after an off duty Macedonian / Slav policeman shot dead two ethnic albanians and then masked assilants attacked albanian school children in a bus. This does not justify any revenge attacks from albanian side, but pointing the finger at albanians, using comments verging on racism and bringing religion into it when it has nothing to do with it, just shows your hatred expressed in pathetic ways. Grow up.

winston

pre 12 godina

Why don't you mention the killin of 2 young men by a Macedonian police over a parking spot? What about 15 Albanian children that were beaten 2 of them into a coma by Macedonian youth? The burning of the Albanian flag and the silence of the Macedonian government over the issue? Une
Une, if a policeman actually killed 2 people over a parking space, which I find extremely difficult to believe, then allow the authorities to do their job and investigate the matter. Again, if the incident on the bus happened, allow the authorities to investigate and arrest the perps. As for burning an Albanian flag in Macedonia, so what? Residents in Macedonia do not live in Albania. Flags are burned all over the world, none more than America's - should the USA retaliate in each incident? Throwing rocks at public buses is not the answer to resolving ethnic tensions - dialogue is. And am I right in assuming from you, that Albanians have never been the instigators in hate crimes? I do not see you mention any of that.

asterisk

pre 12 godina

"lets not forget that the ethnic tensions started after an off duty Macedonian / Slav policeman shot dead two ethnic albanians" Nikshala
Nikshala, when Albanians stop looking at policemen as Slavs, then real progress can be made in forging a true multi-ethnic nation. As long as we look at the ethnic background of individuals, no peace can exist in a society. Are your saying that if the policeman was Albanian, and the victims were Slavs, then public transportation would be safe from Muslim rock throwers? I don't get it. You cannot take law into your own hands.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Stoning buses? It's an old Albanian tradition, nothing to worry aboutl, it happens regularly in Kosovo. Nice to see these habits spilling over to other countries where ethnic Albanians are the minority.

And threating with violence when some criminals are arrested and the police doesn't release them is nothing new, neither.

winston

pre 12 godina

Nicolle, you post the same crap day after day about "worse crimes since WWII". Get a new point please, it's boring - and still an open issue, BTW. And yes, read the story, religion is at the heart of this matter. Albanians got their panties in a bunch, because some guy wore a mask or something at some carnival. That sure sounds like good reason for an uprising - or an excuse to throw stones at buses. Can't remember ever reading a story about Albanian acts of kindness in the Balkans, can you?

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"The whole world know about serbs and what they are about."

Demi

And still serbs have schengen and is a EU candidate country. Just that says everything about albanians. At least you have corruption, drugtrade, terrorists trying to blow up americans, human trafficing etc.
Real contribution to humanity.

asterisk

pre 12 godina

Demi, I believe that this story is about Macedonia, and the unrest in the Albanian neighborhoods. Why are you pulling Serbia into this? Are you obsessed with Serbs?

winston

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is a long-term project for the EU, EUdude. They have poured so many billions into KiM so far, that they have to keep going. And what return did they get on their Euro, zilch. There is still unrest between the Albanians and Serbs, forget what Belgrade says, they don't live there. There is economy to speak of, besides cafes, and buildings from laundered money. The criminal empires are still alive and well there, starting from within the Pristina government, to every ethnic Albanian village. Their are no minority returnees to speak of, as you have mentioned, in fact the ethnic cleansing of minorities still goes on. Buses of non Albanian companies are stoned on a regular basis, as the destruction of Orthodox monasteries still goes on. Now why would the EU support this Newborn in the Balkans - I think it has no way out. They fell into it knee deep, and there is no escape. But hey, it keeps NGO's, the NATO, military suppliers, drug mafia, and an endless supply of EU bureaucrats in business. You gotta love these nation building projects that the USA starts, and then dumps on the host continent.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

How does this title look to people here: Ethnic Serbs responsible for the worst massacre on European soil since WW2. p.s. what is it with this Islamic comments? was this action connected to religion or something?

Une

pre 12 godina

Why don't you mention the killin of 2 young men by a Macedonian police over a parking spot? What about 15 Albanian children that were beaten 2 of them into a coma by Macedonian youth? The burning of the Albanian flag and the silence of the Macedonian government over the issue?

mick

pre 12 godina

What childish behaviour!!

These guys need a slap in the face. What's the point of stoning a bus in another town plus making those people's live hard who have nothing to do with the incident!

If these guys are angry because of that police man then they should go to Tetovo and confront that police man.

But if this continues then like SCP UK said: the Military needs to be present in these albo villages to stop this childish behaviour!

Staff

pre 12 godina

Unbelievable. No one in the world likes Albanians and although they keep on fuelling their extreme bad reputation as cowards. I dont get it.

winston

pre 12 godina

AlbMCSE, yes, there have been riots in many countries, and the Greek incident was during a riot at their own government, but I do not recall there ver being rocks thrown at public transportation in any of those cases. Innocent people are in those buses, not the perpetrators of the events you mention. If Albanians were killed without reason by a policeman, allow the authorities to do their work. How in the world can throwing rocks at a city bus help?

nikshala

pre 12 godina

""lets not forget that the ethnic tensions started after an off duty Macedonian / Slav policeman shot dead two ethnic albanians" Nikshala
Nikshala, when Albanians stop looking at policemen as Slavs, then real progress can be made in forging a true multi-ethnic nation. As long as we look at the ethnic background of individuals, no peace can exist in a society. Are your saying that if the policeman was Albanian, and the victims were Slavs, then public transportation would be safe from Muslim rock throwers? I don't get it. You cannot take law into your own hands.
(asterisk, 14 March 2012 16:08) "

asterisk,

Firstly, the policeman WAS macedonian slav (as opposed to macedonian albanian - both albanians and slav in Macedonia are macedonians) and secondly the albanians there will stop looking at the police in negative ways when the Macedonian goverment respects the Ohrid agreement and the percentage of albanians in police starts reflecting the percentage of albanian population in Macedonia.

If you read my comment again and try to understand it rather than making assumptions, you will realise that I am not condoning the rock throwing or taking law into someone hands...I was merely responding to the commentators that were solely blaming the albanians for the raising of ethnic tensions there.

AlbMCSE

pre 12 godina

Asterisk
“More fundamentalist Muslim barbarianism.……”
Macedonian police officer is accused of killing 2 young ethnic Albanians last week over a parking lot…
Macedonian State at best protecting its own citizen…..The victims were Albanians and yet you baptize them with names?
This bus stoning has nothing to do with religion Asterisk.
Example Greece went through larger riots in Athens when young kid was shot from a Greek police officer.
Serbia if I’m not wrong has experience related riots in the past as well.
Do you have any posting on this site naming “Serbian or Greek fundamentalist Orthodox barbarianism”?
I think you don’t and we all know why.
Respect
ALB_MCSE

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"As long as we look at the ethnic background of individuals, no peace can exist in a society."

What on Earth is this article doing then? Why not just write bus stoned in Macedonia? my previous comment got edited for pointing that out

Kenny

pre 12 godina

Hooligans, just like the article says. Too bad it fails to mention them in the headline, as its quite misleading. But we're used to it.
There certainly have been ethnic tensions in FYROM the last couple of weeks, sparked by the incident in Gostivar. Football hools from both sides just took the opportunity to riot and cause trouble.
I'm not surprised by the one-sided coverage in the ex-yugo media(i.e. Serbia/FYROM), as long as the rest of the world is fair enough and tells the WHOLE story from start to finish, without skipping what they dont like.

EU Dude

pre 12 godina

Please don't be harsh over these albanian actions. It is just a cry for help. They simply can't help themselves. How long will it be before Brussels suddenly finds some funds to promote 'ethnic peace'in FYROM, i.e. pay off the ringmasters.

In the Meantime, Brussels has just announced a 3mEuro fund to build housing for those minorities 'who fled' (as western powers call people they don't like who have been ethnically cleansed) Kosovo, at the hands of KLA and friends, in the Konik refugee camp in Montenegro for those who 'do not wish to return to Kosovo'.

Brussels has given up on getting Pristina to treat minorities in Kosovo with anything like the normal standards that are expected in a modern Europe and instead wants to brush the issue under the carpet. Brussels demands the full right of return for refugees in the rest of the ex-SFRY but refuses to enforce this in Kosovo where over 200,000 are still denied this right.

szemi

pre 12 godina

Bus stoning, too, has to be part of olymics, not only girl-beating and organ-snatching.
The three disciplines where Albanians can't be beaten.
(Ataman, 14 March 2012 15:51)

Have forgotten about Munich-Tirana rally with stolen cars,Durres-Brindisi motorboat race with illigal immigrants,uphill donkey riding ,verbal karate (only serious rival Orbán Vica) and throwing at train windows from distance(see your pictures about albanian trains).THank you drive through .

delon

pre 12 godina

Hey, Demi

How can you compare Serb holigans of what they did to Croatian fans,with Alb. holigans?!
Serbs only thro soft,very soft stones,and only burned with soft and slouly fire Croatians cars.
On the other hand Alb. holigang ,are criminals because they thro very hard ,really stones.you see the difference between them now?

Denis

pre 12 godina

As an Albanian I dont give a crap about the Koran, they can burn it, and all the mosques in Albanian lands. I don't care. I do realize that the islamic identity of Albanians in Macedonia is out of control and in the absence of a state to accomodate them, islam has become an ideology where they rely on to distinguish themselves from the slavs and rally against them. This is very sad. Islam is by far the most sinister ideology in that region for Albanians and others for that matter.

Macedonians on the other hand are worse. Not only from a religion standpoint. A few days ago 2 ethnic albanians were killed by an off duty police officer and they let him out on bail, 15 Alb kids were beaten to death, Albanian flag burned in public etc. Always trying to act cocky when they can't even sustain the conflict. This is very stupid. If they want to have a stable country they have to accomodate 30%+ of the population, which is Albanians, or else they will have no future as a country.The most unstable,identity lacking and fragile nation in the Balkans, is completely invested in internal fights, instead of unifying itslef to resist foreign pressures, how dumb is that? This country has no future.

EU_Candidate

pre 12 godina

BT, it's not only Serbs that dislike Albanians. Ask anyone that resides in the EU, or Brooklyn, USA, what they think of Albanians. The answers may shock you, but maybe not?

BT

pre 12 godina

Unbelievable. No one in the world likes Albanians and although they keep on fuelling their extreme bad reputation as cowards. I dont get it.
(Staff, 14 March 2012 20:27)

Yeah nobody likes albanians but everybody in this world loves serbs, THEY Love SERBS DAMM!!
You should get a life.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

This should be the final straw. These animals need to be taught a lesson because only that way will they learn. They need to be dealt with by force, the areas in which they dominate should be militarily occupied so that criminals be dealt with immediately.
(SCP UK, 14 March 2012 14:44)


The scenario described above, is badly need to take place in northern Mitro.ASAP

Having said that, why you guys care what happens in Macedonia, since Macedonia is another country and not part of Belgrade!?

to nikshala

pre 12 godina

"secondly the albanians there will stop looking at the police in negative ways when the Macedonian goverment respects the Ohrid agreement and the percentage of albanians in police starts reflecting the percentage of albanian population in Macedonia"

Macedonians cannot aford to have Illyrians to become the cops - they only know how to yell allahu akbar - like those freedom fighters in the Middle East. Secondly, they would become double-corrupted policemen with the only goal to enable albo mafia to blossom and expand.
and somebody from among muslim apologist in this thread complained about Serbs commiting the worst crime in Europe after WWII - for jihaidist it was just a payback for the crimes they committed during the war together with other nazis - and it was muslim jihadist lead by Izetbebovic who started the last war - you reap what you sow...firstly prove that those KIA muslims were executed - there is no chance as most of them were not but were combatants - but eurocrats can flush the law which they themselves do not respect anyway.
I read in some Balkans news that Macedonian policeman was defending his daughter( relative) aganist marauding jihadist gang harassing this girl - and that I think was the justified outcome for the fashists...

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

For Christ sakes some people are so uneducated they would anything to reach there objectives, the murder of the two Albanians in gostivar was not ethnically or politically motivated.. Obviously are trying to politicize something in order to start.. This goes beyond any normal logic.. Evil

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Albanians stoned the bus because Slobodan Milosevic was in it.
(MikeC, 14 March 2012 16:37)
I think you are right. Albanian will stone everywhere they see the phantasm of Milosevic* passing. And everyone that try to implement the same policy against us will have the same fate.
*Milosevic is state that sees its citizens as enemy.

albanian farmer

pre 12 godina

Albanian terrorists at it again. Pretty obvious that Albanian terrorism is a worldwide trend. Some people just need to be dealt with using force. I hope the Macedonians put these criminals back in their place.
(Steve B., 14 March 2012 15:16)


Steve B,

I like your sarcasm.

Demi

pre 12 godina

We all know what happend to croatian handball fans when tey were on their way home from Serbia. We all know what serbian gangs did to them... It was very civilizied....

Serbs are the last people to talk. The whole world know about serbs and what they are about.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

A broken windows...

Did UNSC already called for an emergency session? I'm sure Vuk is already in the plane, though it is not his country.

BT

pre 12 godina

(EU_Candidate, 14 March 2012 21:34)

Yeah so the whole world LOVES SERBS?
You trying to " diss " albanians in a dumb way. The are people who love and hate each other in this world. If some people in brookly, US don't love albanians then you find people in Stockholm ( Sweden/ where i live ) that hate serbs and they are non albanians but swedish guys. So what you trying to say that " the whole don't like albanians " ?. If all people in this world loved eachother you and be would not be here and " fight " but we would sit at the bar and have Rakija.

ALB_MCSE

pre 12 godina

WINSTON
Read my post: ” Macedonian police officer ACUSED of killing”
I’m not accusing anyone of anything….. I did not use any religious/ethnic insults like Asterisk.
Yet you ask me if the bus stoning help the case?
Well why don’t you ask Asterisk what does help the case more the bus stoning or him baptizing people on this site?
Think about it.
Ps: Actually the Greek riots were by far worse with burning store cars and many injuries.
Respect

heron

pre 12 godina

blah blah blah..... i am albanian ! lets find a reasonable solution and lets talk , rather than blaming each other! we the people of balkans lets get together & solve the problems with respect to each otherS, LANGUAGE RELIGION TRADITIONS AND SYMBOLS!

BT

pre 12 godina

(MikeC, 14 March 2012 23:27)

#1 Criminals Serbs robbed G4S depo in Sweden last year

#2 psyco mihajlo mihajlovic ( serb ) killed Anna Lindh 2003

#3 Serbia is not going to be part of europe

#4 one Month ago Swedish police found 10 kilos of pure cocain in Stockholm. 3 guys arrested ( All serbs )

#4 Serbia is corrupted as well

#5 Serbia commited genocide in Bosnia

#6 Serbian Organized crime are various criminal organizations based in Serbia or composed of ethnic Serbs in the Serbian Diaspora. Serbian mafiosos are very active in European Union (EU) countries. The organizations are primarily involved in smuggling, arms trafficking, drug trafficking, protection rackets, illegal gambling, jewellery and gems theft, bodyguarding, and contract killings. The Mafia is composed of several major organized groups, which in turn have wider networks throughout Europe.

Do you want be to continue?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Having said that, why you guys care what happens in Macedonia, since Macedonia is another country and not part of Belgrade!?
(Agim Kelmendi, 14 March 2012 18:50)

I could ask you the same thing. Why do you care what happens in Macedonia, or Kosovo* for that matter, since neither is part of the United States, where you live?

Tiranausurus

pre 12 godina

"Bus stoning, too, has to be part of olymics, not only girl-beating and organ-snatching.
The three disciplines where Albanians can't be beaten.
Ataman"

No proof, only allegations so far.
If setting up and taking down barricades is an Olympic sport then Serbs will win gold, hands down.
If systematic and mass rape ever becomes an Olympic sport then you know who will win.
If starting and loosing many wars in one decade than you know who will win gold.
If assassinating elected politicians becomes an Olympic sport then you should fare well also.
If kicking out ambassadors and then inviting them back in becomes an Olympic sport you will win gold.
Burning embassies, enticing hatred toward minorities and believing in myths puts you on par with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. You are not guaranteed a medal but you would fare well.

My fingers are tired and it's getting late. I better rest.
Peace.

to BT

pre 12 godina

"If all people in this world loved eachother you and be would not be here and " fight " but we would sit at the bar and have Rakija."

I tried to have slivo or even a beer in Srbica/Skenderaj back in 2004 but the local muslim brotherhood was stumping their chest declaring they were muslims and did not drink alco...the only thing they offered was hasish and other drugs - but I do not like that, so no friendship with majority Kosovo Albanians..lol
somebody from Albo camp asked whether some other commentator slept with the Bible - I do not think he/she needs to do that -facts remain facts Islam has nothing in common with Western values and civilization, which essentially is the result of Bible based culture transformation (not alway been nice,thoguh ) - muslims even have their own human rights - see the Cairo Declaration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

to to BT

aww how cute, you think of yourself as a Western person. guess what sunshine, I am born into a Catholic Albanian family (though I myself am an atheist) and I am happy Kosova is independent. deal with this other bit of info, majority of Muslim countries support Serbia, majority of Western Christian nations (though Christian in name only) support Kosova. somewhere along the line the wires must have been crossed.

rickyrick

pre 12 godina

"No proof, only allegations so far.
If setting up and taking down barricades is an Olympic sport then Serbs will win gold, hands down.
If systematic and mass rape ever becomes an Olympic sport then you know who will win.
If starting and loosing many wars in one decade than you know who will win gold.
If assassinating elected politicians becomes an Olympic sport then you should fare well also.
If kicking out ambassadors and then inviting them back in becomes an Olympic sport you will win gold.
Burning embassies, enticing hatred toward minorities and believing in myths puts you on par with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. You are not guaranteed a medal but you would fare well.

My fingers are tired and it's getting late. I better rest.
Peace."

This comment deserves an epic medal. ultra-nationalistic serb will deny all these.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

oh dear the Christian Taliban is among us. clearly you do not believe in personal freedom if you would not allow any of your tribesmen the right to choose any path they wished to salvation (though you're all wasting your time). it must have been hard for you to apparently spend time in kosova with KFOR (of course you never did, but that is something else). it must have been hard to do what many serb posters here feel KFOR really did, bring independence to Kosova. after all it was you (by being part of KFOR) that kept the Serb army out. so yes, we owe you our gratitude for making independence possible. many cheers

to Nikolle from exKFOR

pre 12 godina

you might have been born into Catholic family but seems that mentally you have joined the jihadists lines - it means backwardess and threat to humanity. I would never accept any of my tribesmen converting Islam (nor I can stand Jehova witnesses), what I have seen not only in KiM but in the Middle-East as well. Neither I would accept Communist who have caused almost as much misery as muslims. but if you enjoy your dhimmi status then you are free to do so.Hope that once the Serbs will take their land from Muslim invaders, then you can accomodate all of your islamo-illyrian tribesmen , who at the moment illegaly inhabit Kosovo, at you place - or actually then they would return to their homeland Albania. Good luck!

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

How does this title look to people here: Ethnic Serbs responsible for the worst massacre on European soil since WW2. p.s. what is it with this Islamic comments? was this action connected to religion or something?

exKFOR

pre 12 godina

muslim supremacists in action. another example how europeans should not flirt with deathly ideology - like it was with Russian communits during Cold War

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

This should be the final straw. These animals need to be taught a lesson because only that way will they learn. They need to be dealt with by force, the areas in which they dominate should be militarily occupied so that criminals be dealt with immediately.

Une

pre 12 godina

Why don't you mention the killin of 2 young men by a Macedonian police over a parking spot? What about 15 Albanian children that were beaten 2 of them into a coma by Macedonian youth? The burning of the Albanian flag and the silence of the Macedonian government over the issue?

nikshala

pre 12 godina

To the commentators below - lets not forget that the ethnic tensions started after an off duty Macedonian / Slav policeman shot dead two ethnic albanians and then masked assilants attacked albanian school children in a bus. This does not justify any revenge attacks from albanian side, but pointing the finger at albanians, using comments verging on racism and bringing religion into it when it has nothing to do with it, just shows your hatred expressed in pathetic ways. Grow up.

asterisk

pre 12 godina

More fundamentalist Muslim barbarianism, this time coming from Albanians. They say they are offended by someone wearing a mask at some carnival that mocked Islam, and this coming from people that swear they are mostly not religious at all. I think that Albanians can't wait to find a reason to cause trouble, in their attempt to form a greater (unnatural) Albania.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Albanian terrorists at it again. Pretty obvious that Albanian terrorism is a worldwide trend. Some people just need to be dealt with using force. I hope the Macedonians put these criminals back in their place.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"As long as we look at the ethnic background of individuals, no peace can exist in a society."

What on Earth is this article doing then? Why not just write bus stoned in Macedonia? my previous comment got edited for pointing that out

AlbMCSE

pre 12 godina

Asterisk
“More fundamentalist Muslim barbarianism.……”
Macedonian police officer is accused of killing 2 young ethnic Albanians last week over a parking lot…
Macedonian State at best protecting its own citizen…..The victims were Albanians and yet you baptize them with names?
This bus stoning has nothing to do with religion Asterisk.
Example Greece went through larger riots in Athens when young kid was shot from a Greek police officer.
Serbia if I’m not wrong has experience related riots in the past as well.
Do you have any posting on this site naming “Serbian or Greek fundamentalist Orthodox barbarianism”?
I think you don’t and we all know why.
Respect
ALB_MCSE

Kenny

pre 12 godina

Hooligans, just like the article says. Too bad it fails to mention them in the headline, as its quite misleading. But we're used to it.
There certainly have been ethnic tensions in FYROM the last couple of weeks, sparked by the incident in Gostivar. Football hools from both sides just took the opportunity to riot and cause trouble.
I'm not surprised by the one-sided coverage in the ex-yugo media(i.e. Serbia/FYROM), as long as the rest of the world is fair enough and tells the WHOLE story from start to finish, without skipping what they dont like.

winston

pre 12 godina

Why don't you mention the killin of 2 young men by a Macedonian police over a parking spot? What about 15 Albanian children that were beaten 2 of them into a coma by Macedonian youth? The burning of the Albanian flag and the silence of the Macedonian government over the issue? Une
Une, if a policeman actually killed 2 people over a parking space, which I find extremely difficult to believe, then allow the authorities to do their job and investigate the matter. Again, if the incident on the bus happened, allow the authorities to investigate and arrest the perps. As for burning an Albanian flag in Macedonia, so what? Residents in Macedonia do not live in Albania. Flags are burned all over the world, none more than America's - should the USA retaliate in each incident? Throwing rocks at public buses is not the answer to resolving ethnic tensions - dialogue is. And am I right in assuming from you, that Albanians have never been the instigators in hate crimes? I do not see you mention any of that.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Stoning buses? It's an old Albanian tradition, nothing to worry aboutl, it happens regularly in Kosovo. Nice to see these habits spilling over to other countries where ethnic Albanians are the minority.

And threating with violence when some criminals are arrested and the police doesn't release them is nothing new, neither.

Demi

pre 12 godina

We all know what happend to croatian handball fans when tey were on their way home from Serbia. We all know what serbian gangs did to them... It was very civilizied....

Serbs are the last people to talk. The whole world know about serbs and what they are about.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Bus stoning, too, has to be part of olymics, not only girl-beating and organ-snatching.
The three disciplines where Albanians can't be beaten.

albanian farmer

pre 12 godina

Albanian terrorists at it again. Pretty obvious that Albanian terrorism is a worldwide trend. Some people just need to be dealt with using force. I hope the Macedonians put these criminals back in their place.
(Steve B., 14 March 2012 15:16)


Steve B,

I like your sarcasm.

delon

pre 12 godina

Hey, Demi

How can you compare Serb holigans of what they did to Croatian fans,with Alb. holigans?!
Serbs only thro soft,very soft stones,and only burned with soft and slouly fire Croatians cars.
On the other hand Alb. holigang ,are criminals because they thro very hard ,really stones.you see the difference between them now?

ALB_MCSE

pre 12 godina

WINSTON
Read my post: ” Macedonian police officer ACUSED of killing”
I’m not accusing anyone of anything….. I did not use any religious/ethnic insults like Asterisk.
Yet you ask me if the bus stoning help the case?
Well why don’t you ask Asterisk what does help the case more the bus stoning or him baptizing people on this site?
Think about it.
Ps: Actually the Greek riots were by far worse with burning store cars and many injuries.
Respect

EU_Candidate

pre 12 godina

BT, it's not only Serbs that dislike Albanians. Ask anyone that resides in the EU, or Brooklyn, USA, what they think of Albanians. The answers may shock you, but maybe not?

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"The whole world know about serbs and what they are about."

Demi

And still serbs have schengen and is a EU candidate country. Just that says everything about albanians. At least you have corruption, drugtrade, terrorists trying to blow up americans, human trafficing etc.
Real contribution to humanity.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

This should be the final straw. These animals need to be taught a lesson because only that way will they learn. They need to be dealt with by force, the areas in which they dominate should be militarily occupied so that criminals be dealt with immediately.
(SCP UK, 14 March 2012 14:44)


The scenario described above, is badly need to take place in northern Mitro.ASAP

Having said that, why you guys care what happens in Macedonia, since Macedonia is another country and not part of Belgrade!?

to nikshala

pre 12 godina

"secondly the albanians there will stop looking at the police in negative ways when the Macedonian goverment respects the Ohrid agreement and the percentage of albanians in police starts reflecting the percentage of albanian population in Macedonia"

Macedonians cannot aford to have Illyrians to become the cops - they only know how to yell allahu akbar - like those freedom fighters in the Middle East. Secondly, they would become double-corrupted policemen with the only goal to enable albo mafia to blossom and expand.
and somebody from among muslim apologist in this thread complained about Serbs commiting the worst crime in Europe after WWII - for jihaidist it was just a payback for the crimes they committed during the war together with other nazis - and it was muslim jihadist lead by Izetbebovic who started the last war - you reap what you sow...firstly prove that those KIA muslims were executed - there is no chance as most of them were not but were combatants - but eurocrats can flush the law which they themselves do not respect anyway.
I read in some Balkans news that Macedonian policeman was defending his daughter( relative) aganist marauding jihadist gang harassing this girl - and that I think was the justified outcome for the fashists...

asterisk

pre 12 godina

Demi, I believe that this story is about Macedonia, and the unrest in the Albanian neighborhoods. Why are you pulling Serbia into this? Are you obsessed with Serbs?

Denis

pre 12 godina

As an Albanian I dont give a crap about the Koran, they can burn it, and all the mosques in Albanian lands. I don't care. I do realize that the islamic identity of Albanians in Macedonia is out of control and in the absence of a state to accomodate them, islam has become an ideology where they rely on to distinguish themselves from the slavs and rally against them. This is very sad. Islam is by far the most sinister ideology in that region for Albanians and others for that matter.

Macedonians on the other hand are worse. Not only from a religion standpoint. A few days ago 2 ethnic albanians were killed by an off duty police officer and they let him out on bail, 15 Alb kids were beaten to death, Albanian flag burned in public etc. Always trying to act cocky when they can't even sustain the conflict. This is very stupid. If they want to have a stable country they have to accomodate 30%+ of the population, which is Albanians, or else they will have no future as a country.The most unstable,identity lacking and fragile nation in the Balkans, is completely invested in internal fights, instead of unifying itslef to resist foreign pressures, how dumb is that? This country has no future.

BT

pre 12 godina

Unbelievable. No one in the world likes Albanians and although they keep on fuelling their extreme bad reputation as cowards. I dont get it.
(Staff, 14 March 2012 20:27)

Yeah nobody likes albanians but everybody in this world loves serbs, THEY Love SERBS DAMM!!
You should get a life.

heron

pre 12 godina

blah blah blah..... i am albanian ! lets find a reasonable solution and lets talk , rather than blaming each other! we the people of balkans lets get together & solve the problems with respect to each otherS, LANGUAGE RELIGION TRADITIONS AND SYMBOLS!

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Albanians stoned the bus because Slobodan Milosevic was in it.
(MikeC, 14 March 2012 16:37)
I think you are right. Albanian will stone everywhere they see the phantasm of Milosevic* passing. And everyone that try to implement the same policy against us will have the same fate.
*Milosevic is state that sees its citizens as enemy.

mick

pre 12 godina

What childish behaviour!!

These guys need a slap in the face. What's the point of stoning a bus in another town plus making those people's live hard who have nothing to do with the incident!

If these guys are angry because of that police man then they should go to Tetovo and confront that police man.

But if this continues then like SCP UK said: the Military needs to be present in these albo villages to stop this childish behaviour!

asterisk

pre 12 godina

"lets not forget that the ethnic tensions started after an off duty Macedonian / Slav policeman shot dead two ethnic albanians" Nikshala
Nikshala, when Albanians stop looking at policemen as Slavs, then real progress can be made in forging a true multi-ethnic nation. As long as we look at the ethnic background of individuals, no peace can exist in a society. Are your saying that if the policeman was Albanian, and the victims were Slavs, then public transportation would be safe from Muslim rock throwers? I don't get it. You cannot take law into your own hands.

winston

pre 12 godina

Nicolle, you post the same crap day after day about "worse crimes since WWII". Get a new point please, it's boring - and still an open issue, BTW. And yes, read the story, religion is at the heart of this matter. Albanians got their panties in a bunch, because some guy wore a mask or something at some carnival. That sure sounds like good reason for an uprising - or an excuse to throw stones at buses. Can't remember ever reading a story about Albanian acts of kindness in the Balkans, can you?

nikshala

pre 12 godina

""lets not forget that the ethnic tensions started after an off duty Macedonian / Slav policeman shot dead two ethnic albanians" Nikshala
Nikshala, when Albanians stop looking at policemen as Slavs, then real progress can be made in forging a true multi-ethnic nation. As long as we look at the ethnic background of individuals, no peace can exist in a society. Are your saying that if the policeman was Albanian, and the victims were Slavs, then public transportation would be safe from Muslim rock throwers? I don't get it. You cannot take law into your own hands.
(asterisk, 14 March 2012 16:08) "

asterisk,

Firstly, the policeman WAS macedonian slav (as opposed to macedonian albanian - both albanians and slav in Macedonia are macedonians) and secondly the albanians there will stop looking at the police in negative ways when the Macedonian goverment respects the Ohrid agreement and the percentage of albanians in police starts reflecting the percentage of albanian population in Macedonia.

If you read my comment again and try to understand it rather than making assumptions, you will realise that I am not condoning the rock throwing or taking law into someone hands...I was merely responding to the commentators that were solely blaming the albanians for the raising of ethnic tensions there.

winston

pre 12 godina

Kosovo is a long-term project for the EU, EUdude. They have poured so many billions into KiM so far, that they have to keep going. And what return did they get on their Euro, zilch. There is still unrest between the Albanians and Serbs, forget what Belgrade says, they don't live there. There is economy to speak of, besides cafes, and buildings from laundered money. The criminal empires are still alive and well there, starting from within the Pristina government, to every ethnic Albanian village. Their are no minority returnees to speak of, as you have mentioned, in fact the ethnic cleansing of minorities still goes on. Buses of non Albanian companies are stoned on a regular basis, as the destruction of Orthodox monasteries still goes on. Now why would the EU support this Newborn in the Balkans - I think it has no way out. They fell into it knee deep, and there is no escape. But hey, it keeps NGO's, the NATO, military suppliers, drug mafia, and an endless supply of EU bureaucrats in business. You gotta love these nation building projects that the USA starts, and then dumps on the host continent.

Staff

pre 12 godina

Unbelievable. No one in the world likes Albanians and although they keep on fuelling their extreme bad reputation as cowards. I dont get it.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

For Christ sakes some people are so uneducated they would anything to reach there objectives, the murder of the two Albanians in gostivar was not ethnically or politically motivated.. Obviously are trying to politicize something in order to start.. This goes beyond any normal logic.. Evil

szemi

pre 12 godina

Bus stoning, too, has to be part of olymics, not only girl-beating and organ-snatching.
The three disciplines where Albanians can't be beaten.
(Ataman, 14 March 2012 15:51)

Have forgotten about Munich-Tirana rally with stolen cars,Durres-Brindisi motorboat race with illigal immigrants,uphill donkey riding ,verbal karate (only serious rival Orbán Vica) and throwing at train windows from distance(see your pictures about albanian trains).THank you drive through .

winston

pre 12 godina

AlbMCSE, yes, there have been riots in many countries, and the Greek incident was during a riot at their own government, but I do not recall there ver being rocks thrown at public transportation in any of those cases. Innocent people are in those buses, not the perpetrators of the events you mention. If Albanians were killed without reason by a policeman, allow the authorities to do their work. How in the world can throwing rocks at a city bus help?

EU Dude

pre 12 godina

Please don't be harsh over these albanian actions. It is just a cry for help. They simply can't help themselves. How long will it be before Brussels suddenly finds some funds to promote 'ethnic peace'in FYROM, i.e. pay off the ringmasters.

In the Meantime, Brussels has just announced a 3mEuro fund to build housing for those minorities 'who fled' (as western powers call people they don't like who have been ethnically cleansed) Kosovo, at the hands of KLA and friends, in the Konik refugee camp in Montenegro for those who 'do not wish to return to Kosovo'.

Brussels has given up on getting Pristina to treat minorities in Kosovo with anything like the normal standards that are expected in a modern Europe and instead wants to brush the issue under the carpet. Brussels demands the full right of return for refugees in the rest of the ex-SFRY but refuses to enforce this in Kosovo where over 200,000 are still denied this right.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

A broken windows...

Did UNSC already called for an emergency session? I'm sure Vuk is already in the plane, though it is not his country.

BT

pre 12 godina

(EU_Candidate, 14 March 2012 21:34)

Yeah so the whole world LOVES SERBS?
You trying to " diss " albanians in a dumb way. The are people who love and hate each other in this world. If some people in brookly, US don't love albanians then you find people in Stockholm ( Sweden/ where i live ) that hate serbs and they are non albanians but swedish guys. So what you trying to say that " the whole don't like albanians " ?. If all people in this world loved eachother you and be would not be here and " fight " but we would sit at the bar and have Rakija.

BT

pre 12 godina

(MikeC, 14 March 2012 23:27)

#1 Criminals Serbs robbed G4S depo in Sweden last year

#2 psyco mihajlo mihajlovic ( serb ) killed Anna Lindh 2003

#3 Serbia is not going to be part of europe

#4 one Month ago Swedish police found 10 kilos of pure cocain in Stockholm. 3 guys arrested ( All serbs )

#4 Serbia is corrupted as well

#5 Serbia commited genocide in Bosnia

#6 Serbian Organized crime are various criminal organizations based in Serbia or composed of ethnic Serbs in the Serbian Diaspora. Serbian mafiosos are very active in European Union (EU) countries. The organizations are primarily involved in smuggling, arms trafficking, drug trafficking, protection rackets, illegal gambling, jewellery and gems theft, bodyguarding, and contract killings. The Mafia is composed of several major organized groups, which in turn have wider networks throughout Europe.

Do you want be to continue?

Tiranausurus

pre 12 godina

"Bus stoning, too, has to be part of olymics, not only girl-beating and organ-snatching.
The three disciplines where Albanians can't be beaten.
Ataman"

No proof, only allegations so far.
If setting up and taking down barricades is an Olympic sport then Serbs will win gold, hands down.
If systematic and mass rape ever becomes an Olympic sport then you know who will win.
If starting and loosing many wars in one decade than you know who will win gold.
If assassinating elected politicians becomes an Olympic sport then you should fare well also.
If kicking out ambassadors and then inviting them back in becomes an Olympic sport you will win gold.
Burning embassies, enticing hatred toward minorities and believing in myths puts you on par with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. You are not guaranteed a medal but you would fare well.

My fingers are tired and it's getting late. I better rest.
Peace.

to BT

pre 12 godina

"If all people in this world loved eachother you and be would not be here and " fight " but we would sit at the bar and have Rakija."

I tried to have slivo or even a beer in Srbica/Skenderaj back in 2004 but the local muslim brotherhood was stumping their chest declaring they were muslims and did not drink alco...the only thing they offered was hasish and other drugs - but I do not like that, so no friendship with majority Kosovo Albanians..lol
somebody from Albo camp asked whether some other commentator slept with the Bible - I do not think he/she needs to do that -facts remain facts Islam has nothing in common with Western values and civilization, which essentially is the result of Bible based culture transformation (not alway been nice,thoguh ) - muslims even have their own human rights - see the Cairo Declaration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

to to BT

aww how cute, you think of yourself as a Western person. guess what sunshine, I am born into a Catholic Albanian family (though I myself am an atheist) and I am happy Kosova is independent. deal with this other bit of info, majority of Muslim countries support Serbia, majority of Western Christian nations (though Christian in name only) support Kosova. somewhere along the line the wires must have been crossed.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Having said that, why you guys care what happens in Macedonia, since Macedonia is another country and not part of Belgrade!?
(Agim Kelmendi, 14 March 2012 18:50)

I could ask you the same thing. Why do you care what happens in Macedonia, or Kosovo* for that matter, since neither is part of the United States, where you live?

to Nikolle from exKFOR

pre 12 godina

you might have been born into Catholic family but seems that mentally you have joined the jihadists lines - it means backwardess and threat to humanity. I would never accept any of my tribesmen converting Islam (nor I can stand Jehova witnesses), what I have seen not only in KiM but in the Middle-East as well. Neither I would accept Communist who have caused almost as much misery as muslims. but if you enjoy your dhimmi status then you are free to do so.Hope that once the Serbs will take their land from Muslim invaders, then you can accomodate all of your islamo-illyrian tribesmen , who at the moment illegaly inhabit Kosovo, at you place - or actually then they would return to their homeland Albania. Good luck!

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

oh dear the Christian Taliban is among us. clearly you do not believe in personal freedom if you would not allow any of your tribesmen the right to choose any path they wished to salvation (though you're all wasting your time). it must have been hard for you to apparently spend time in kosova with KFOR (of course you never did, but that is something else). it must have been hard to do what many serb posters here feel KFOR really did, bring independence to Kosova. after all it was you (by being part of KFOR) that kept the Serb army out. so yes, we owe you our gratitude for making independence possible. many cheers

rickyrick

pre 12 godina

"No proof, only allegations so far.
If setting up and taking down barricades is an Olympic sport then Serbs will win gold, hands down.
If systematic and mass rape ever becomes an Olympic sport then you know who will win.
If starting and loosing many wars in one decade than you know who will win gold.
If assassinating elected politicians becomes an Olympic sport then you should fare well also.
If kicking out ambassadors and then inviting them back in becomes an Olympic sport you will win gold.
Burning embassies, enticing hatred toward minorities and believing in myths puts you on par with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. You are not guaranteed a medal but you would fare well.

My fingers are tired and it's getting late. I better rest.
Peace."

This comment deserves an epic medal. ultra-nationalistic serb will deny all these.