"Vojvodina should have its own police"

And so it begins...

there is simply no need for "internal autonomy". end of discussion.

since Serbia is a free country and allows it´s citizens freedom of movement.. Mr.Egeresi is free move to Hungary if he doesn´t like to live in Serbia!

Vojvodina should have its own police AND MILITARY.

this guy is talking from the 80s lol and if he dont know the serbs are over 75% of the province and hungarians are a minority there is 1,500,000 serbs and 220,000 hungarians lol
(tom, 12 March 2012 15:36)

The serbs keep talking from 1389. Kosovo's population is more than 95% albanian and serbs are a minority.But you serbs can use whatever numbers suit you.

Jovan, Mr. Egresi would like to see Vojvodina a part of Hungary, instead of move there. Simply amazing how some politicians can never just concentrate on making ALL the citizens of the country they live in better, but must instead focus on one group, or ethnicity, or territory, or province. I guess that's what they're paid to do.

this guy is talking from the 80s lol and if he dont know the serbs are over 75% of the province and hungarians are a minority there is 1,500,000 serbs and 220,000 hungarians lol

Mark


Yes, albanians are over 95 percent of Kosovos population. That is because you use your women as babyfactories. Give birth to as many children as possible so that you may one day become a majority. Its nothing unusual for albanian families in Kosovo have up to 14 children. A majority populations doesn't entitle you to someone elses terrirory.

The hungarian wind bags strike again.

Look, I understand that Vojvodina needs to make some of it's own administrative rules, in order to simplify the process of permits, local construction, education..so on so forth. However, when you have some majar fist pounding with huffing and puffing, well that stinks more like a call for autonomy which I'm against. No other former Yugoslav nation offers autonomy for anyone. Is there Autonomy in Croatia? Macedonia? Slovenia?
Heck, is there a mosque in Slovenia come to think of it?
So why do Serbs need to offer and agree to autonomy for some hungarian blow holes? Besides, the police would be made of mostly Serbs anyway...whats the difference? none?

A majority populations doesn't entitle you to someone elses terrirory.
(MikeC, 12 March 2012 17:53)

Than why does it entitle serbs in Vojvodina,R.Srpska,N.Kosovo,Krajina?

No, no...Vojvodina is Serbia, why the hell would we establish a different police force. Last time i was there It felt like Serbia...guess what it was Serbia

Mr.Egeresi you are a liar. I write from Italy. Province of Alto Adige/Sud Tirol, a great example of autonomy that was btw suggested for Kosovo, hasn't "its own police". It has everything the german population needs, if - as italian - I want to work there I must be able to speak german but there isn't its own police that, I bet, would be the first step to "its own army"... and german speaking people are majority there, not as hungarians in Vojvodina...

Bravo, MikeC, you hit the nail on the head. Albanians do use their women to reproduce, and nothing else. I have heard from people that know, that if an Albanian woman's husband dies, then the husband's brother, or father, takes over. Can anything be more disgusting? How in the world can the EU even consider making them an ally, more or less a possible EU candidate? I think this says a lot about what the EU is about.

It is always funny to hear these palinka nationalist turned former goulash comunists.They always manage to come out with some idiocy.

MikeC, you hit the nail on the head. Albanians do use their women to reproduce, and nothing else. I have heard from people that know, that if an Albanian woman's husband dies, then the husband's brother, or father, takes over. Can anything be more disgusting?
(asterisk, 12 March 2012 19:51)


You heard from "people who know". You should stop listening to gypsy palm readers and their disgusting rumors.

Maybe if serbia did not throw away 400 of every 1000 babies it would not have a declining population. What a sin!

@(MikeC, 12 March 2012 17:53) -

What is this preoccupation with the Albanian growth rate? Take a lot at the population pyramid for Kosovo - http://www.d-transition.info/countries-glance-3/kosovo-194/. The lifetime births-per-woman figure is now 2.3. When Albanian women were having large families, so were Serbian women. As they moved to the city, the number dropped off rapidly, for both nationalities. It's a pretty common pattern, worldwide.

"Vojvodina is another bad example. It has a slim Serbian majority while the North."

Serbs are 65-70% of Vojvodina - that is not a slim majority. A slim majority would be more like 51-60%.

"in all democratic countries regions and local self-governments have a police of their own."
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Then Australia certainly isn't democratic. We don't have regional police here. State yes, but since when is Vojvodina a state?
So do tell us which democratic countries allow regions to have their own police. We are all waiting.

None of these things would be at issue if it weren't for foreign meddling and chicanery!

" A majority populations doesn't entitle you to someone elses terrirory"
It doesn;t matter if that entitles one, or not. A change of the majority surely changes the character of the country. That is why when you have a high birth minority like the Albanians it is so much wiser to separate, even if that means loss of territory. If Kosovo remain a part of Serbia, in a generation or two the very Serbian character of the state will be in jeopardy.
Vojvodina is another bad example. It has a slim Serbian majority while the North. A partition might have been a wise move. Now the drive towards the silly idea of "more than authonomy, less then independence" designed for Kosovo might affect the entire Vojvodina.

I know milosevic striped Kosova's autonomy becuase the Albanians were rebelling, but why did he striped Vojvodina's aoutonomy? Were the serbs or perhaps the hugarian minority rebelling?

"If Kosovo remain a part of Serbia, in a generation or two the very Serbian character of the state will be in jeopardy. "

No kidding.

If Kosovo were an fully-integrated part of Serbia, you couldn't change a street-light in Belgrade without Albanians using it for leverage for more money to Kosovo.

With Kosovo, Serbia would not be (or in a few generations not be) a Serbian state. Either that, or not a democratic one.

there is simply no need for "internal autonomy". end of discussion.

since Serbia is a free country and allows it´s citizens freedom of movement.. Mr.Egeresi is free move to Hungary if he doesn´t like to live in Serbia!

Vojvodina should have its own police AND MILITARY.

this guy is talking from the 80s lol and if he dont know the serbs are over 75% of the province and hungarians are a minority there is 1,500,000 serbs and 220,000 hungarians lol
(tom, 12 March 2012 15:36)

The serbs keep talking from 1389. Kosovo's population is more than 95% albanian and serbs are a minority.But you serbs can use whatever numbers suit you.

And so it begins...

this guy is talking from the 80s lol and if he dont know the serbs are over 75% of the province and hungarians are a minority there is 1,500,000 serbs and 220,000 hungarians lol

Mark


Yes, albanians are over 95 percent of Kosovos population. That is because you use your women as babyfactories. Give birth to as many children as possible so that you may one day become a majority. Its nothing unusual for albanian families in Kosovo have up to 14 children. A majority populations doesn't entitle you to someone elses terrirory.

Bravo, MikeC, you hit the nail on the head. Albanians do use their women to reproduce, and nothing else. I have heard from people that know, that if an Albanian woman's husband dies, then the husband's brother, or father, takes over. Can anything be more disgusting? How in the world can the EU even consider making them an ally, more or less a possible EU candidate? I think this says a lot about what the EU is about.

Jovan, Mr. Egresi would like to see Vojvodina a part of Hungary, instead of move there. Simply amazing how some politicians can never just concentrate on making ALL the citizens of the country they live in better, but must instead focus on one group, or ethnicity, or territory, or province. I guess that's what they're paid to do.

No, no...Vojvodina is Serbia, why the hell would we establish a different police force. Last time i was there It felt like Serbia...guess what it was Serbia

It is always funny to hear these palinka nationalist turned former goulash comunists.They always manage to come out with some idiocy.

Mr.Egeresi you are a liar. I write from Italy. Province of Alto Adige/Sud Tirol, a great example of autonomy that was btw suggested for Kosovo, hasn't "its own police". It has everything the german population needs, if - as italian - I want to work there I must be able to speak german but there isn't its own police that, I bet, would be the first step to "its own army"... and german speaking people are majority there, not as hungarians in Vojvodina...

The hungarian wind bags strike again.

Look, I understand that Vojvodina needs to make some of it's own administrative rules, in order to simplify the process of permits, local construction, education..so on so forth. However, when you have some majar fist pounding with huffing and puffing, well that stinks more like a call for autonomy which I'm against. No other former Yugoslav nation offers autonomy for anyone. Is there Autonomy in Croatia? Macedonia? Slovenia?
Heck, is there a mosque in Slovenia come to think of it?
So why do Serbs need to offer and agree to autonomy for some hungarian blow holes? Besides, the police would be made of mostly Serbs anyway...whats the difference? none?

" A majority populations doesn't entitle you to someone elses terrirory"
It doesn;t matter if that entitles one, or not. A change of the majority surely changes the character of the country. That is why when you have a high birth minority like the Albanians it is so much wiser to separate, even if that means loss of territory. If Kosovo remain a part of Serbia, in a generation or two the very Serbian character of the state will be in jeopardy.
Vojvodina is another bad example. It has a slim Serbian majority while the North. A partition might have been a wise move. Now the drive towards the silly idea of "more than authonomy, less then independence" designed for Kosovo might affect the entire Vojvodina.

None of these things would be at issue if it weren't for foreign meddling and chicanery!

"in all democratic countries regions and local self-governments have a police of their own."
==============================

Then Australia certainly isn't democratic. We don't have regional police here. State yes, but since when is Vojvodina a state?
So do tell us which democratic countries allow regions to have their own police. We are all waiting.

A majority populations doesn't entitle you to someone elses terrirory.
(MikeC, 12 March 2012 17:53)

Than why does it entitle serbs in Vojvodina,R.Srpska,N.Kosovo,Krajina?

"Vojvodina is another bad example. It has a slim Serbian majority while the North."

Serbs are 65-70% of Vojvodina - that is not a slim majority. A slim majority would be more like 51-60%.

MikeC, you hit the nail on the head. Albanians do use their women to reproduce, and nothing else. I have heard from people that know, that if an Albanian woman's husband dies, then the husband's brother, or father, takes over. Can anything be more disgusting?
(asterisk, 12 March 2012 19:51)


You heard from "people who know". You should stop listening to gypsy palm readers and their disgusting rumors.

Maybe if serbia did not throw away 400 of every 1000 babies it would not have a declining population. What a sin!

@(MikeC, 12 March 2012 17:53) -

What is this preoccupation with the Albanian growth rate? Take a lot at the population pyramid for Kosovo - http://www.d-transition.info/countries-glance-3/kosovo-194/. The lifetime births-per-woman figure is now 2.3. When Albanian women were having large families, so were Serbian women. As they moved to the city, the number dropped off rapidly, for both nationalities. It's a pretty common pattern, worldwide.

I know milosevic striped Kosova's autonomy becuase the Albanians were rebelling, but why did he striped Vojvodina's aoutonomy? Were the serbs or perhaps the hugarian minority rebelling?

"If Kosovo remain a part of Serbia, in a generation or two the very Serbian character of the state will be in jeopardy. "

No kidding.

If Kosovo were an fully-integrated part of Serbia, you couldn't change a street-light in Belgrade without Albanians using it for leverage for more money to Kosovo.

With Kosovo, Serbia would not be (or in a few generations not be) a Serbian state. Either that, or not a democratic one.