British government “prepares Orwellian law”

"... Russia Today (RT) writes." I had to stop reading the article after I saw the source... great news agency that Russia Today, nothing buy blatant lies!
(adrian kola, 9 March 2012 14:31)

Are you absolutely sure that the article is total tosh? As a brit living still in the 'Big Brother' society I would not be at all surprised!
New legislation being passed between the Houses of Lords and Commons regarding 'Secret trials' probably includes elements that the article is referring to.
Any act that is approved is usually done with the greater good in mind. However, loopholes are found that are used by Unscrupulous lawyers, councils and other such authorities.
If anything, emails, txts, fone calls etc have most probably been recorded and logged since 2001, this is GB, a master of deceit and deception for well on 300 years!
I love this country, including all the aches and pains, yet at times I despair.
Oh dear Albion, bulwark of democracy!

There are always those who seek to control. They need to be stamped on by clear thinking free citizens.

Interesting that Russia Today should seek to make something of this - it makes you wonder what form of self-justification is being exercised by the Putin/KGB association. Already there has been massive suppression of opposition and of the free-press in Russia. These kinds of suppression of the individual in Russia are a return to the practices of both the Tsars and the Communists.

I give good wishes to the Russian people - do defend your freedoms against suppression. Putin is not the only person capable of ruling Russia even though he does want you to believe that he is indispensable. I remember that Serbs thought that way about Milosevic - until they got too fed up with him.

As for the UK; I predict that it won't happen. If they do try this, expect a massive backlash against the government and a lot more use of encryption in standard email communication. It would certainly be against the traditions of freedom in the UK for this to be done - and a very dangerous action that would one-day backfire on the secret services when some misuse against an innocent citizen becomes a public scandal.

I also predict that the current extradition arrangements between the UK and the US will be up for review soon because of the asymmetric treatment of UK citizens. UK MPs are often slow to act, but they do wake up sometimes.

"... Russia Today (RT) writes." I had to stop reading the article after I saw the source... great news agency that Russia Today, nothing buy blatant lies!
(adrian kola, 9 March 2012 14:31)

Always killing the messenger eh adrian? It is not lies at all for anyone who actually bothers to keep an eye on western state surveillance on their own citizens which is widespread.

"... Russia Today (RT) writes." I had to stop reading the article after I saw the source... great news agency that Russia Today, nothing buy blatant lies!

Just another step in the deterioration of our civil liberties. Australia have had a similar law for years now and the Yanks have been trying for years to implement such a law.

Watch the Government dress it up and tell the masses that they're doing it for our own good to stop things such as "terrorism" and "riots".

Given the amount of Muslim extremists, rioters in hoods, organised crime and illegal immigrants in the UK, these laws make sense.The fact that the UK got into that state in the first place is another debate.

“This is the first step towards the government taking control of the internet,” insists Big Brother Watch Director Nick Pickles.

“The only place in the world that’s got that kind of regulation is China. And I’m sorry, but Britain is not China,” he added."

So Britain is not China .... but so the saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ....... all the more Scotland should bolt the union and not be subject to this law should it come to pass!

This is only a small picture of things to come in the UK. Call it terrorism or fascism or whatever you like, but its laws being passed to control the population under the disguise of fighting terror. As the standard of living falls and it’s being felt by the people tensions start and as the UK is now also populated by non Anglo Saxons in large numbers who have no allegiance to that country, when times get tough society starts to fall apart unless Governments can keep it together using force.
It’s going to get a lot worse than better.

So Britain is not China .... but so the saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ....... all the more Scotland should bolt the union and not be subject to this law should it come to pass!
(lowe, 10 March 2012 10:38)

What and have more Scots like Tony Blair and Gordon Browns take away civil liberties?

"What and have more Scots like Tony Blair and Gordon Browns take away civil liberties?
(Ian, UK, 10 March 2012 13:16)"

Well, whatever grouses or grudges that you hold about these men, do remember that you and your people voted them into office. You do know that old English saying about reaping what you sow, right?

It would probably help incarcerate paedophiles, terrorists, assassins & murderers, rapists..

Maybe it would be a good thing?

"... Russia Today (RT) writes." I had to stop reading the article after I saw the source... great news agency that Russia Today, nothing buy blatant lies!

There are always those who seek to control. They need to be stamped on by clear thinking free citizens.

Interesting that Russia Today should seek to make something of this - it makes you wonder what form of self-justification is being exercised by the Putin/KGB association. Already there has been massive suppression of opposition and of the free-press in Russia. These kinds of suppression of the individual in Russia are a return to the practices of both the Tsars and the Communists.

I give good wishes to the Russian people - do defend your freedoms against suppression. Putin is not the only person capable of ruling Russia even though he does want you to believe that he is indispensable. I remember that Serbs thought that way about Milosevic - until they got too fed up with him.

As for the UK; I predict that it won't happen. If they do try this, expect a massive backlash against the government and a lot more use of encryption in standard email communication. It would certainly be against the traditions of freedom in the UK for this to be done - and a very dangerous action that would one-day backfire on the secret services when some misuse against an innocent citizen becomes a public scandal.

I also predict that the current extradition arrangements between the UK and the US will be up for review soon because of the asymmetric treatment of UK citizens. UK MPs are often slow to act, but they do wake up sometimes.

"... Russia Today (RT) writes." I had to stop reading the article after I saw the source... great news agency that Russia Today, nothing buy blatant lies!
(adrian kola, 9 March 2012 14:31)

Always killing the messenger eh adrian? It is not lies at all for anyone who actually bothers to keep an eye on western state surveillance on their own citizens which is widespread.

"... Russia Today (RT) writes." I had to stop reading the article after I saw the source... great news agency that Russia Today, nothing buy blatant lies!
(adrian kola, 9 March 2012 14:31)

Are you absolutely sure that the article is total tosh? As a brit living still in the 'Big Brother' society I would not be at all surprised!
New legislation being passed between the Houses of Lords and Commons regarding 'Secret trials' probably includes elements that the article is referring to.
Any act that is approved is usually done with the greater good in mind. However, loopholes are found that are used by Unscrupulous lawyers, councils and other such authorities.
If anything, emails, txts, fone calls etc have most probably been recorded and logged since 2001, this is GB, a master of deceit and deception for well on 300 years!
I love this country, including all the aches and pains, yet at times I despair.
Oh dear Albion, bulwark of democracy!

Given the amount of Muslim extremists, rioters in hoods, organised crime and illegal immigrants in the UK, these laws make sense.The fact that the UK got into that state in the first place is another debate.

So Britain is not China .... but so the saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ....... all the more Scotland should bolt the union and not be subject to this law should it come to pass!
(lowe, 10 March 2012 10:38)

What and have more Scots like Tony Blair and Gordon Browns take away civil liberties?

Just another step in the deterioration of our civil liberties. Australia have had a similar law for years now and the Yanks have been trying for years to implement such a law.

Watch the Government dress it up and tell the masses that they're doing it for our own good to stop things such as "terrorism" and "riots".

“This is the first step towards the government taking control of the internet,” insists Big Brother Watch Director Nick Pickles.

“The only place in the world that’s got that kind of regulation is China. And I’m sorry, but Britain is not China,” he added."

So Britain is not China .... but so the saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ....... all the more Scotland should bolt the union and not be subject to this law should it come to pass!

It would probably help incarcerate paedophiles, terrorists, assassins & murderers, rapists..

Maybe it would be a good thing?

This is only a small picture of things to come in the UK. Call it terrorism or fascism or whatever you like, but its laws being passed to control the population under the disguise of fighting terror. As the standard of living falls and it’s being felt by the people tensions start and as the UK is now also populated by non Anglo Saxons in large numbers who have no allegiance to that country, when times get tough society starts to fall apart unless Governments can keep it together using force.
It’s going to get a lot worse than better.

"What and have more Scots like Tony Blair and Gordon Browns take away civil liberties?
(Ian, UK, 10 March 2012 13:16)"

Well, whatever grouses or grudges that you hold about these men, do remember that you and your people voted them into office. You do know that old English saying about reaping what you sow, right?