A map of Serbia that does not include Kosovo, published on the European Union portal, is "a technical error", a source from the European Commission has said.
Serbia needs to take a bigger stance on this whole Kosovo situation. If a country has not accepted a piece of land to be independent, that is something to go to war over. Its illegal and i do not under stand it.
Why Jovan, what is it that you're going to do, Carry on what Sloba couldn't finish? Funny what your ilk has been reduced to (p.s. I do not mean all Serbs, only the mad raving nationalists like Jovan), issuing threats on the internet.
to that albanian kid who´s displaying his inferiority complex with his nick-name: dear Tom King, sooner or later you will see that it is quite relevant what we Serbs think about it.
this is no threat, as I have written it before, it´s a promise. and you K-albanians should start thinking about what you will do, when Uncle Sam lets you down...
you know, others before you also thought they are smart, ...and ended with empty hands.
How do i claim Kosovo belongs to Albanians? I don't, it belongs to those who live there and since 9/10 of those who live there happen to be Albanian the argument is laid to bed. as for the Illyrian thing, even if either proposition is true (Albanian, not Albanian) it has no relevance today. it really isn't hard to grasp what i'm writing Peggy. if you want to bring history into this, Kosova doesn't belong to either Serbs or Albanians since neither had dominion over it longer than others
Peggy, I have not claimed Kosova is historically Albanian have I? Nor do I know Anglo-Saxons claiming that the US is Anglo-Saxon historically. Same for Australia. understand what you're reading next time you wish to take me to task. p.s. my point still stands and is proven HISTORICALLY.
(Nikolle, 8 March 2012 00:07)
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Really? What happened to the Illyrian myth of being the only humans in that part of the world?
Ok, let's say you don't claim it. Then how do you claim Kosovo to belong to Albanians?
Peggy, I have not claimed Kosova is historically Albanian have I? Nor do I know Anglo-Saxons claiming that the US is Anglo-Saxon historically. Same for Australia. understand what you're reading next time you wish to take me to task. p.s. my point still stands and is proven HISTORICALLY.
It doesn´t matter what some online-maps in the internet are showing, ...the one and only thing that really counts is international law. ...and taking this into account, the K-albanians have nothing to cheer about.
and that is good.
(Jovan, 7 March 2012 02:21)
Jovan,
The online map reflects the position of the EU, NATO, UN, USA, Japan, etc. If these international organizations and countries see Kosova as independent then your opinion is irrelevant. Why would Serbia wish to join the EU and NATO when they ignore the tantrums of your little Serbia. Serbia should get used to being marginalized if they wish to play with the big boys. Why has you big sister Russia been so quiet lately now that she got what she wanted from Serbia. Serbia sold their oil industry at Nish on the cheap to Russia with nothing to show for it. It must sting to be seduced and abandoned by your Slavic Orthodox brothers.
Somehow interesting that for Cyprus, the whole island is considered a member of the EU. But: "However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended. "
I wonder if it will this be valid for Kosovo, too? Kosovo, as the area in which government of Serbia doesn't exercise effective control?
this is no threat, but a forecast... ´cause, you know... I´m not an Albanian.
(Jovan, 7 March 2012 12:47)
Jovan - Milosevic, Karadzic, Seselj, Mladic and a whole bunch of other Serberian mental giants used to say the same things. And we see how things really worked out for them and their vision for Serbia's future. You are correct that Serbia didn't threaten the Albanians in 1999, they took action, they went in with their full military might.....and lost:) The Albanians too didn't make threats, but delivered on their promise to eject the Serbian army/police from Kosova which they did through many brilliant ways. Kosovar Albanians continue to carry on that tradition of kicking out Serbian police/military in Kosova with the recent capture of the MUP bandits!
Historically, Kosova has been a Roman province and an Ottoman province longer than it has been a part of Serbia.
(Nikolle, 7 March 2012 11:40)
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Historically America has been Indian country longer than the while anglo saxon and the same for Australia being loner an Aborigianl country so why don't you go and tell them that?
Historically Kosovo has been everyone's longer than Albanian so do consider that one too seeing how you are so clever.
good bye kosovo, good bye kosovo from in the map hahahahha technical error?????????hahahahahha???????
btw kosovo is NOT legally part of serbia because serbia has no control or sovereignty over kosovo thus its ilegall for serbs to enter kosovo, kosovo has borders, government, constitution and laws so stop saying "kosovo is legally part of serbia" IT IS NOT stop lying to yourselfs like B92 is lying to their citizens about the "technical error" the correct map is still up there and will be up there until the end of time
to all those albanian "experts": nothing was given up! you shouldn´t fall for your wishful thinking, boys.
and don´t you even dare to think that you will get away with that cheapish behaviour!
the US won´t be there for all times to protect your little freak creation on serbian territory. keep that in mind, when you start writing big-mouth-comments next time...
your time is limited. we are just waiting, and we will be ready when the time has come.
this is no threat, but a forecast... ´cause, you know... I´m not an Albanian.
1. Serbia is now a EU candidate country, once it becomes an EU member, it will be without Kosovo.
2. "Kosovo under UN Security Council Resolution 1244" is listed as a potential candidate.
Note: It's not Kosovo* here (only UNSCR1244 and not UDI/ICJ).
But that's the correct wording, too because the Kosovo* name agreement is only valid for regional conferences where Kosovo* participates, and not meant for international/European usage.
It's not an error but a provocation by some elements in the EU. Kosovo is legally and historically part of Serbia. only Serbia and the UNSC will determine the province's future.
I think and believe Kosova and Serbia should let go of each other. Kosova has done it but Serbia is not trying to do so.
One very important message to the Serb people.
You guys can't fight for something you've lost when you gave it up in 1999. You can't ask for Kosova when we all know how nice you have treated the people of Kosova. Back in 1989 you made the mistake that brought the facts we're having today.
Try to keep Serbia as it is now peacefuly or you could lost it all.
If the European Union is able to admit that they made an error with Serbia’s map regarding its Province of Kosovo, then they should be honest enough to say that this is the subliminal withdrawing of support by all European Union Countries for the unilateral declaration of independence by the Albanians of Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.
It is one thing to announce Status Neutral Policy, but actions speak louder than words, and Germany needs to prove its credentials by because of its Anti-European Past.
(Yet Another J S, 6 March 2012 13:18)
You finally got it, dear. Are actions that matter not cheap talk - but for Serbs it's usually the opposite.
even if you are only one poor little k-albanian boy, who is ineffectively trying to provoke anti-german comments here...
I will refer to your comment about Germany, though.
Germany started WW II , ...which was ended by the Soviets, who liberated Auschwitz while the Americans were still hopping from one island to another... so, to even only think of the comparison between Germany and Serbia lacks intelligence so massively that I could not but laugh about your comment, if it would not display this almost unbelievable level of misunderstanding...
but, wasn´t it the Albanians who sided with those Nazi-Germans in WW II? was it not the Albanians who sided with them too, in WW I? was it not the Albanians who lost both world wars?
...just as a sidenote, of course.
but don´t worry, I didn´t mention this to show my disrespect towards you, no... it was just to let you think it over, before you try to link Serbia and Serbia´s "past" in the slightes way with Germany and it´s unforgettable contribution to world history...
or in other words: don´t try to accuse Serbia in regard to past historical events when you as an Albanian shoud be ashamed and stay absolutely quiet in that regard!
I hope you got the message, boy.
as for the article:
it doesn´t matter what some online-maps in the internet are showing, ...the one and only thing that really counts is international law. ...and taking this into account, the K-albanians have nothing to cheer about.
Kosovo is gone, Tadic gave it up in negotiations with his German friends and they let him keep his job for a while longer by making it appear you're going to be allowed into the EU. Serbs had better face the fact that Kosovo has been taken from them by someone who can enforce the change. Of course it will end badly, as it always does in the Balkans, but never mind. The Germans (once again) think they have a solution. Soon you'll get loans you can't pay back and the EU will be overrun with Grateful Albanians spreading their "culture" far and wide. As an outsider I've assumed that Serbs wanted to survive. Lately I've had a look at your demographics. Since Serbs don't have children at a replacement rate it's obvious your fate it sealed. Time to integrate into more successful cultures, so maybe the EU isn't a bad deal for you after all. Time to learn German and English well and quit looking at the past which is the answer when you have no future.
(Frank, 6 March 2012 21:42)
Listen Frank,
You are by no means a modern day Nostradamus so stop speaking like one.
My Grandfather spent 11 years in Germany, 6 years in a concentration camp & 5 years in a displaced persons camp. He refused to learn German ;)
Time for us to integrate into more 'successful' cultures? Well I'm curious to know what success means for you? Most people think you measure success by finding happiness. Do you live in German? Do the robots look happy to you? Are the people friendly and cheery? They don't look to happy to me and they openly state at an official level that multiculturalism does NOT work. This makes it a little difficult to integrate wouldn't you say?
Sorry to burst your bubble but I think i'd prefer to remain happy and enjoy the life in Serbia & feel the friendliness and communal spirit in the air, than procreate in a robotic-like environment.
finally, and I checked, it is still on, and it will stay on, It is only B92 saying that is a 'technical error', other media outlets say something completly different.
And one more word, about I comment I read here. Not Germany has to learn something about it's past, BUT Serbia most certainly does.
Kosovo is gone, Tadic gave it up in negotiations with his German friends and they let him keep his job for a while longer by making it appear you're going to be allowed into the EU. Serbs had better face the fact that Kosovo has been taken from them by someone who can enforce the change. Of course it will end badly, as it always does in the Balkans, but never mind. The Germans (once again) think they have a solution. Soon you'll get loans you can't pay back and the EU will be overrun with Grateful Albanians spreading their "culture" far and wide. As an outsider I've assumed that Serbs wanted to survive. Lately I've had a look at your demographics. Since Serbs don't have children at a replacement rate it's obvious your fate it sealed. Time to integrate into more successful cultures, so maybe the EU isn't a bad deal for you after all. Time to learn German and English well and quit looking at the past which is the answer when you have no future.
Serbia said they will treat kosovo as an independent nation would be treated in meetings and conferences so it's no longer part of serbia and kosovo should not be a part of the serbia map because according to Serbia kosovo has all the rights of an independent nation.
Comming from the same place where you can actually smoke indoors in Europe, setting a great example fro the rest, and now also with this latest BS in making sure they maintain 'neutrality'! They dont even show Kosovo as a conuntry on the countries list (they do on the large euroean map!), although 22 out of 27 states recognise it as such ! They still have the area of Serbia shown 77.000 km sq, wchich is without Kosova ! although they have takne the map out !! Shambles, these non-bias PENCIL PUSHERS trying to make the serb radicals happy....uuuuuu!
Get used to the new map of Serbia. It's been the reality on the ground for years now.
(dani, 6 March 2012 18:40)
You missed the point. It's not a "new map of Serbia" or "Kosovo reality on the ground". It's a compromise made by idiots, read my comment below, why is that. Welcome to the E.U., the compromises made by idiots for what they assume are idiots. THIS is the sick reality on the ground, the rest are dreams never to materialize.
E.U. is a lame cart with 27 wheels in 54 directions, some people think that if they add few wheels more than the cart will go faster, you will see how it will turn out. The other bad feature is, everyone wants to be a driver and believes he is OK with Forma-1. In the reality not qualified for a Zastava. Just look at the map with better details and the recent E.U. promoting clip, what a shame.
Well done to the DSS for picking this up. It hasn't been taken off the site, as B92 claims. You can see it here -> [link] (on the second last page).
(Zoran, 6 March 2012 16:27)
I think, it's an updated version. If you enlarge - than you see a little "under 1244" writing beneath of "KOSOVO" and Pristina is written with "s", Neither "sh", not "š" is allowed. So it's obviously a compromise again, at the price being politically correct but not grammatically. Because it's either "Priština" or "Prishtinë" or "Prishtina" - never "Pristina". That's E.U. at it worst, prepare for that, in the future the name of the city is "Pristina", precisely as it is written, no "š", no "sh", just the way Mircea, the EU citizen does it envision.
BTW: looking at the other country names we can see "Poranešna Jugoslavenska Republika Makedonija" - so that "š" does exist, so does "Sh" (see "Shqipëria" nearby).
In Russian this kind of solution is called
"Ни в 3.14зду ни в Красную Армию".
I have four explanations for that, only one is IMO correct.
#1: E.U. hates Serbs, that's why the "under 1244" is so small and "s" is without the hat.
#2: E.U. hates Albanians, that's why "under 1244" is there and the "h" is missing from "Prishtina"
#3: There is world-wide free-masonic conspiring, led by Edita Telavivi and Baruch Tadiczewitz from a basement under the Dohány Street Synagogue
#4: No hate, no conspiring - they in E.U. are just merely IDIOTS. See the other proof
It was no mistake. The EU was hoping Serbia would keep quiet. These punks will do anything to force Serbia to give up Kosovo. What losers!
(Daniel Rodriguez, 6 March 2012 13:00)
People of Kosovo decide about Kosovo, and they did decide in 2008. I don't know if you heard.
Well done to the DSS for picking this up. It hasn't been taken off the site, as B92 claims. You can see it here -> http://ec.europa.eu/publications/booklets/eu_glance/79/en.pdf (on the second last page).
I also like this bit of spin in the document:
"The euro (€) is probably the EU’s most tangible achievement. The single currency is shared by 16 countries (2009), representing over two thirds of the EU population. Others will follow once their economies are ready."
Yep, others will follow once their economies are ready for bankruptcy.
If the European Union is able to admit that they made an error with Serbia’s map regarding its Province of Kosovo, then they should be honest enough to say that this is the subliminal withdrawing of support by all European Union Countries for the unilateral declaration of independence by the Albanians of Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.
It is one thing to announce Status Neutral Policy, but actions speak louder than words, and Germany needs to prove its credentials by because of its Anti-European Past.
“A map of Serbia that does not include Kosovo, published on the European Union portal, is "a technical error", a source from the European Commission has said.”…. you cant make error, tehnical or any other to make a map like this European commission !!!! That is is look of map that you want to see ,new order is come with Germany on top.
“A map of Serbia that does not include Kosovo, published on the European Union portal, is "a technical error", a source from the European Commission has said.”…. you cant make error, tehnical or any other to make a map like this European commission !!!! That is is look of map that you want to see ,new order is come with Germany on top.
If the European Union is able to admit that they made an error with Serbia’s map regarding its Province of Kosovo, then they should be honest enough to say that this is the subliminal withdrawing of support by all European Union Countries for the unilateral declaration of independence by the Albanians of Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.
It is one thing to announce Status Neutral Policy, but actions speak louder than words, and Germany needs to prove its credentials by because of its Anti-European Past.
It was no mistake. The EU was hoping Serbia would keep quiet. These punks will do anything to force Serbia to give up Kosovo. What losers!
(Daniel Rodriguez, 6 March 2012 13:00)
People of Kosovo decide about Kosovo, and they did decide in 2008. I don't know if you heard.
Well done to the DSS for picking this up. It hasn't been taken off the site, as B92 claims. You can see it here -> http://ec.europa.eu/publications/booklets/eu_glance/79/en.pdf (on the second last page).
I also like this bit of spin in the document:
"The euro (€) is probably the EU’s most tangible achievement. The single currency is shared by 16 countries (2009), representing over two thirds of the EU population. Others will follow once their economies are ready."
Yep, others will follow once their economies are ready for bankruptcy.
Serbia said they will treat kosovo as an independent nation would be treated in meetings and conferences so it's no longer part of serbia and kosovo should not be a part of the serbia map because according to Serbia kosovo has all the rights of an independent nation.
finally, and I checked, it is still on, and it will stay on, It is only B92 saying that is a 'technical error', other media outlets say something completly different.
And one more word, about I comment I read here. Not Germany has to learn something about it's past, BUT Serbia most certainly does.
Kosovo is gone, Tadic gave it up in negotiations with his German friends and they let him keep his job for a while longer by making it appear you're going to be allowed into the EU. Serbs had better face the fact that Kosovo has been taken from them by someone who can enforce the change. Of course it will end badly, as it always does in the Balkans, but never mind. The Germans (once again) think they have a solution. Soon you'll get loans you can't pay back and the EU will be overrun with Grateful Albanians spreading their "culture" far and wide. As an outsider I've assumed that Serbs wanted to survive. Lately I've had a look at your demographics. Since Serbs don't have children at a replacement rate it's obvious your fate it sealed. Time to integrate into more successful cultures, so maybe the EU isn't a bad deal for you after all. Time to learn German and English well and quit looking at the past which is the answer when you have no future.
Well done to the DSS for picking this up. It hasn't been taken off the site, as B92 claims. You can see it here -> [link] (on the second last page).
(Zoran, 6 March 2012 16:27)
I think, it's an updated version. If you enlarge - than you see a little "under 1244" writing beneath of "KOSOVO" and Pristina is written with "s", Neither "sh", not "š" is allowed. So it's obviously a compromise again, at the price being politically correct but not grammatically. Because it's either "Priština" or "Prishtinë" or "Prishtina" - never "Pristina". That's E.U. at it worst, prepare for that, in the future the name of the city is "Pristina", precisely as it is written, no "š", no "sh", just the way Mircea, the EU citizen does it envision.
BTW: looking at the other country names we can see "Poranešna Jugoslavenska Republika Makedonija" - so that "š" does exist, so does "Sh" (see "Shqipëria" nearby).
In Russian this kind of solution is called
"Ни в 3.14зду ни в Красную Армию".
I have four explanations for that, only one is IMO correct.
#1: E.U. hates Serbs, that's why the "under 1244" is so small and "s" is without the hat.
#2: E.U. hates Albanians, that's why "under 1244" is there and the "h" is missing from "Prishtina"
#3: There is world-wide free-masonic conspiring, led by Edita Telavivi and Baruch Tadiczewitz from a basement under the Dohány Street Synagogue
#4: No hate, no conspiring - they in E.U. are just merely IDIOTS. See the other proof
Get used to the new map of Serbia. It's been the reality on the ground for years now.
(dani, 6 March 2012 18:40)
You missed the point. It's not a "new map of Serbia" or "Kosovo reality on the ground". It's a compromise made by idiots, read my comment below, why is that. Welcome to the E.U., the compromises made by idiots for what they assume are idiots. THIS is the sick reality on the ground, the rest are dreams never to materialize.
E.U. is a lame cart with 27 wheels in 54 directions, some people think that if they add few wheels more than the cart will go faster, you will see how it will turn out. The other bad feature is, everyone wants to be a driver and believes he is OK with Forma-1. In the reality not qualified for a Zastava. Just look at the map with better details and the recent E.U. promoting clip, what a shame.
Comming from the same place where you can actually smoke indoors in Europe, setting a great example fro the rest, and now also with this latest BS in making sure they maintain 'neutrality'! They dont even show Kosovo as a conuntry on the countries list (they do on the large euroean map!), although 22 out of 27 states recognise it as such ! They still have the area of Serbia shown 77.000 km sq, wchich is without Kosova ! although they have takne the map out !! Shambles, these non-bias PENCIL PUSHERS trying to make the serb radicals happy....uuuuuu!
I think and believe Kosova and Serbia should let go of each other. Kosova has done it but Serbia is not trying to do so.
One very important message to the Serb people.
You guys can't fight for something you've lost when you gave it up in 1999. You can't ask for Kosova when we all know how nice you have treated the people of Kosova. Back in 1989 you made the mistake that brought the facts we're having today.
Try to keep Serbia as it is now peacefuly or you could lost it all.
1. Serbia is now a EU candidate country, once it becomes an EU member, it will be without Kosovo.
2. "Kosovo under UN Security Council Resolution 1244" is listed as a potential candidate.
Note: It's not Kosovo* here (only UNSCR1244 and not UDI/ICJ).
But that's the correct wording, too because the Kosovo* name agreement is only valid for regional conferences where Kosovo* participates, and not meant for international/European usage.
Kosovo is gone, Tadic gave it up in negotiations with his German friends and they let him keep his job for a while longer by making it appear you're going to be allowed into the EU. Serbs had better face the fact that Kosovo has been taken from them by someone who can enforce the change. Of course it will end badly, as it always does in the Balkans, but never mind. The Germans (once again) think they have a solution. Soon you'll get loans you can't pay back and the EU will be overrun with Grateful Albanians spreading their "culture" far and wide. As an outsider I've assumed that Serbs wanted to survive. Lately I've had a look at your demographics. Since Serbs don't have children at a replacement rate it's obvious your fate it sealed. Time to integrate into more successful cultures, so maybe the EU isn't a bad deal for you after all. Time to learn German and English well and quit looking at the past which is the answer when you have no future.
(Frank, 6 March 2012 21:42)
Listen Frank,
You are by no means a modern day Nostradamus so stop speaking like one.
My Grandfather spent 11 years in Germany, 6 years in a concentration camp & 5 years in a displaced persons camp. He refused to learn German ;)
Time for us to integrate into more 'successful' cultures? Well I'm curious to know what success means for you? Most people think you measure success by finding happiness. Do you live in German? Do the robots look happy to you? Are the people friendly and cheery? They don't look to happy to me and they openly state at an official level that multiculturalism does NOT work. This makes it a little difficult to integrate wouldn't you say?
Sorry to burst your bubble but I think i'd prefer to remain happy and enjoy the life in Serbia & feel the friendliness and communal spirit in the air, than procreate in a robotic-like environment.
even if you are only one poor little k-albanian boy, who is ineffectively trying to provoke anti-german comments here...
I will refer to your comment about Germany, though.
Germany started WW II , ...which was ended by the Soviets, who liberated Auschwitz while the Americans were still hopping from one island to another... so, to even only think of the comparison between Germany and Serbia lacks intelligence so massively that I could not but laugh about your comment, if it would not display this almost unbelievable level of misunderstanding...
but, wasn´t it the Albanians who sided with those Nazi-Germans in WW II? was it not the Albanians who sided with them too, in WW I? was it not the Albanians who lost both world wars?
...just as a sidenote, of course.
but don´t worry, I didn´t mention this to show my disrespect towards you, no... it was just to let you think it over, before you try to link Serbia and Serbia´s "past" in the slightes way with Germany and it´s unforgettable contribution to world history...
or in other words: don´t try to accuse Serbia in regard to past historical events when you as an Albanian shoud be ashamed and stay absolutely quiet in that regard!
I hope you got the message, boy.
as for the article:
it doesn´t matter what some online-maps in the internet are showing, ...the one and only thing that really counts is international law. ...and taking this into account, the K-albanians have nothing to cheer about.
to all those albanian "experts": nothing was given up! you shouldn´t fall for your wishful thinking, boys.
and don´t you even dare to think that you will get away with that cheapish behaviour!
the US won´t be there for all times to protect your little freak creation on serbian territory. keep that in mind, when you start writing big-mouth-comments next time...
your time is limited. we are just waiting, and we will be ready when the time has come.
this is no threat, but a forecast... ´cause, you know... I´m not an Albanian.
good bye kosovo, good bye kosovo from in the map hahahahha technical error?????????hahahahahha???????
btw kosovo is NOT legally part of serbia because serbia has no control or sovereignty over kosovo thus its ilegall for serbs to enter kosovo, kosovo has borders, government, constitution and laws so stop saying "kosovo is legally part of serbia" IT IS NOT stop lying to yourselfs like B92 is lying to their citizens about the "technical error" the correct map is still up there and will be up there until the end of time
this is no threat, but a forecast... ´cause, you know... I´m not an Albanian.
(Jovan, 7 March 2012 12:47)
Jovan - Milosevic, Karadzic, Seselj, Mladic and a whole bunch of other Serberian mental giants used to say the same things. And we see how things really worked out for them and their vision for Serbia's future. You are correct that Serbia didn't threaten the Albanians in 1999, they took action, they went in with their full military might.....and lost:) The Albanians too didn't make threats, but delivered on their promise to eject the Serbian army/police from Kosova which they did through many brilliant ways. Kosovar Albanians continue to carry on that tradition of kicking out Serbian police/military in Kosova with the recent capture of the MUP bandits!
It's not an error but a provocation by some elements in the EU. Kosovo is legally and historically part of Serbia. only Serbia and the UNSC will determine the province's future.
Historically, Kosova has been a Roman province and an Ottoman province longer than it has been a part of Serbia.
(Nikolle, 7 March 2012 11:40)
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Historically America has been Indian country longer than the while anglo saxon and the same for Australia being loner an Aborigianl country so why don't you go and tell them that?
Historically Kosovo has been everyone's longer than Albanian so do consider that one too seeing how you are so clever.
It doesn´t matter what some online-maps in the internet are showing, ...the one and only thing that really counts is international law. ...and taking this into account, the K-albanians have nothing to cheer about.
and that is good.
(Jovan, 7 March 2012 02:21)
Jovan,
The online map reflects the position of the EU, NATO, UN, USA, Japan, etc. If these international organizations and countries see Kosova as independent then your opinion is irrelevant. Why would Serbia wish to join the EU and NATO when they ignore the tantrums of your little Serbia. Serbia should get used to being marginalized if they wish to play with the big boys. Why has you big sister Russia been so quiet lately now that she got what she wanted from Serbia. Serbia sold their oil industry at Nish on the cheap to Russia with nothing to show for it. It must sting to be seduced and abandoned by your Slavic Orthodox brothers.
Somehow interesting that for Cyprus, the whole island is considered a member of the EU. But: "However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended. "
I wonder if it will this be valid for Kosovo, too? Kosovo, as the area in which government of Serbia doesn't exercise effective control?
Peggy, I have not claimed Kosova is historically Albanian have I? Nor do I know Anglo-Saxons claiming that the US is Anglo-Saxon historically. Same for Australia. understand what you're reading next time you wish to take me to task. p.s. my point still stands and is proven HISTORICALLY.
(Nikolle, 8 March 2012 00:07)
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Really? What happened to the Illyrian myth of being the only humans in that part of the world?
Ok, let's say you don't claim it. Then how do you claim Kosovo to belong to Albanians?
to that albanian kid who´s displaying his inferiority complex with his nick-name: dear Tom King, sooner or later you will see that it is quite relevant what we Serbs think about it.
this is no threat, as I have written it before, it´s a promise. and you K-albanians should start thinking about what you will do, when Uncle Sam lets you down...
you know, others before you also thought they are smart, ...and ended with empty hands.
Why Jovan, what is it that you're going to do, Carry on what Sloba couldn't finish? Funny what your ilk has been reduced to (p.s. I do not mean all Serbs, only the mad raving nationalists like Jovan), issuing threats on the internet.
If the European Union is able to admit that they made an error with Serbia’s map regarding its Province of Kosovo, then they should be honest enough to say that this is the subliminal withdrawing of support by all European Union Countries for the unilateral declaration of independence by the Albanians of Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.
It is one thing to announce Status Neutral Policy, but actions speak louder than words, and Germany needs to prove its credentials by because of its Anti-European Past.
(Yet Another J S, 6 March 2012 13:18)
You finally got it, dear. Are actions that matter not cheap talk - but for Serbs it's usually the opposite.
Peggy, I have not claimed Kosova is historically Albanian have I? Nor do I know Anglo-Saxons claiming that the US is Anglo-Saxon historically. Same for Australia. understand what you're reading next time you wish to take me to task. p.s. my point still stands and is proven HISTORICALLY.
How do i claim Kosovo belongs to Albanians? I don't, it belongs to those who live there and since 9/10 of those who live there happen to be Albanian the argument is laid to bed. as for the Illyrian thing, even if either proposition is true (Albanian, not Albanian) it has no relevance today. it really isn't hard to grasp what i'm writing Peggy. if you want to bring history into this, Kosova doesn't belong to either Serbs or Albanians since neither had dominion over it longer than others
Serbia needs to take a bigger stance on this whole Kosovo situation. If a country has not accepted a piece of land to be independent, that is something to go to war over. Its illegal and i do not under stand it.
If the European Union is able to admit that they made an error with Serbia’s map regarding its Province of Kosovo, then they should be honest enough to say that this is the subliminal withdrawing of support by all European Union Countries for the unilateral declaration of independence by the Albanians of Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.
It is one thing to announce Status Neutral Policy, but actions speak louder than words, and Germany needs to prove its credentials by because of its Anti-European Past.
It was no mistake. The EU was hoping Serbia would keep quiet. These punks will do anything to force Serbia to give up Kosovo. What losers!
(Daniel Rodriguez, 6 March 2012 13:00)
People of Kosovo decide about Kosovo, and they did decide in 2008. I don't know if you heard.
Serbia said they will treat kosovo as an independent nation would be treated in meetings and conferences so it's no longer part of serbia and kosovo should not be a part of the serbia map because according to Serbia kosovo has all the rights of an independent nation.
Well done to the DSS for picking this up. It hasn't been taken off the site, as B92 claims. You can see it here -> [link] (on the second last page).
(Zoran, 6 March 2012 16:27)
I think, it's an updated version. If you enlarge - than you see a little "under 1244" writing beneath of "KOSOVO" and Pristina is written with "s", Neither "sh", not "š" is allowed. So it's obviously a compromise again, at the price being politically correct but not grammatically. Because it's either "Priština" or "Prishtinë" or "Prishtina" - never "Pristina". That's E.U. at it worst, prepare for that, in the future the name of the city is "Pristina", precisely as it is written, no "š", no "sh", just the way Mircea, the EU citizen does it envision.
BTW: looking at the other country names we can see "Poranešna Jugoslavenska Republika Makedonija" - so that "š" does exist, so does "Sh" (see "Shqipëria" nearby).
In Russian this kind of solution is called
"Ни в 3.14зду ни в Красную Армию".
I have four explanations for that, only one is IMO correct.
#1: E.U. hates Serbs, that's why the "under 1244" is so small and "s" is without the hat.
#2: E.U. hates Albanians, that's why "under 1244" is there and the "h" is missing from "Prishtina"
#3: There is world-wide free-masonic conspiring, led by Edita Telavivi and Baruch Tadiczewitz from a basement under the Dohány Street Synagogue
#4: No hate, no conspiring - they in E.U. are just merely IDIOTS. See the other proof
Kosovo is gone, Tadic gave it up in negotiations with his German friends and they let him keep his job for a while longer by making it appear you're going to be allowed into the EU. Serbs had better face the fact that Kosovo has been taken from them by someone who can enforce the change. Of course it will end badly, as it always does in the Balkans, but never mind. The Germans (once again) think they have a solution. Soon you'll get loans you can't pay back and the EU will be overrun with Grateful Albanians spreading their "culture" far and wide. As an outsider I've assumed that Serbs wanted to survive. Lately I've had a look at your demographics. Since Serbs don't have children at a replacement rate it's obvious your fate it sealed. Time to integrate into more successful cultures, so maybe the EU isn't a bad deal for you after all. Time to learn German and English well and quit looking at the past which is the answer when you have no future.
Get used to the new map of Serbia. It's been the reality on the ground for years now.
(dani, 6 March 2012 18:40)
You missed the point. It's not a "new map of Serbia" or "Kosovo reality on the ground". It's a compromise made by idiots, read my comment below, why is that. Welcome to the E.U., the compromises made by idiots for what they assume are idiots. THIS is the sick reality on the ground, the rest are dreams never to materialize.
E.U. is a lame cart with 27 wheels in 54 directions, some people think that if they add few wheels more than the cart will go faster, you will see how it will turn out. The other bad feature is, everyone wants to be a driver and believes he is OK with Forma-1. In the reality not qualified for a Zastava. Just look at the map with better details and the recent E.U. promoting clip, what a shame.
“A map of Serbia that does not include Kosovo, published on the European Union portal, is "a technical error", a source from the European Commission has said.”…. you cant make error, tehnical or any other to make a map like this European commission !!!! That is is look of map that you want to see ,new order is come with Germany on top.
Well done to the DSS for picking this up. It hasn't been taken off the site, as B92 claims. You can see it here -> http://ec.europa.eu/publications/booklets/eu_glance/79/en.pdf (on the second last page).
I also like this bit of spin in the document:
"The euro (€) is probably the EU’s most tangible achievement. The single currency is shared by 16 countries (2009), representing over two thirds of the EU population. Others will follow once their economies are ready."
Yep, others will follow once their economies are ready for bankruptcy.
finally, and I checked, it is still on, and it will stay on, It is only B92 saying that is a 'technical error', other media outlets say something completly different.
And one more word, about I comment I read here. Not Germany has to learn something about it's past, BUT Serbia most certainly does.
Comming from the same place where you can actually smoke indoors in Europe, setting a great example fro the rest, and now also with this latest BS in making sure they maintain 'neutrality'! They dont even show Kosovo as a conuntry on the countries list (they do on the large euroean map!), although 22 out of 27 states recognise it as such ! They still have the area of Serbia shown 77.000 km sq, wchich is without Kosova ! although they have takne the map out !! Shambles, these non-bias PENCIL PUSHERS trying to make the serb radicals happy....uuuuuu!
It's not an error but a provocation by some elements in the EU. Kosovo is legally and historically part of Serbia. only Serbia and the UNSC will determine the province's future.
If the European Union is able to admit that they made an error with Serbia’s map regarding its Province of Kosovo, then they should be honest enough to say that this is the subliminal withdrawing of support by all European Union Countries for the unilateral declaration of independence by the Albanians of Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.
It is one thing to announce Status Neutral Policy, but actions speak louder than words, and Germany needs to prove its credentials by because of its Anti-European Past.
(Yet Another J S, 6 March 2012 13:18)
You finally got it, dear. Are actions that matter not cheap talk - but for Serbs it's usually the opposite.
I think and believe Kosova and Serbia should let go of each other. Kosova has done it but Serbia is not trying to do so.
One very important message to the Serb people.
You guys can't fight for something you've lost when you gave it up in 1999. You can't ask for Kosova when we all know how nice you have treated the people of Kosova. Back in 1989 you made the mistake that brought the facts we're having today.
Try to keep Serbia as it is now peacefuly or you could lost it all.
Historically, Kosova has been a Roman province and an Ottoman province longer than it has been a part of Serbia.
(Nikolle, 7 March 2012 11:40)
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Historically America has been Indian country longer than the while anglo saxon and the same for Australia being loner an Aborigianl country so why don't you go and tell them that?
Historically Kosovo has been everyone's longer than Albanian so do consider that one too seeing how you are so clever.
this is no threat, but a forecast... ´cause, you know... I´m not an Albanian.
(Jovan, 7 March 2012 12:47)
Jovan - Milosevic, Karadzic, Seselj, Mladic and a whole bunch of other Serberian mental giants used to say the same things. And we see how things really worked out for them and their vision for Serbia's future. You are correct that Serbia didn't threaten the Albanians in 1999, they took action, they went in with their full military might.....and lost:) The Albanians too didn't make threats, but delivered on their promise to eject the Serbian army/police from Kosova which they did through many brilliant ways. Kosovar Albanians continue to carry on that tradition of kicking out Serbian police/military in Kosova with the recent capture of the MUP bandits!
even if you are only one poor little k-albanian boy, who is ineffectively trying to provoke anti-german comments here...
I will refer to your comment about Germany, though.
Germany started WW II , ...which was ended by the Soviets, who liberated Auschwitz while the Americans were still hopping from one island to another... so, to even only think of the comparison between Germany and Serbia lacks intelligence so massively that I could not but laugh about your comment, if it would not display this almost unbelievable level of misunderstanding...
but, wasn´t it the Albanians who sided with those Nazi-Germans in WW II? was it not the Albanians who sided with them too, in WW I? was it not the Albanians who lost both world wars?
...just as a sidenote, of course.
but don´t worry, I didn´t mention this to show my disrespect towards you, no... it was just to let you think it over, before you try to link Serbia and Serbia´s "past" in the slightes way with Germany and it´s unforgettable contribution to world history...
or in other words: don´t try to accuse Serbia in regard to past historical events when you as an Albanian shoud be ashamed and stay absolutely quiet in that regard!
I hope you got the message, boy.
as for the article:
it doesn´t matter what some online-maps in the internet are showing, ...the one and only thing that really counts is international law. ...and taking this into account, the K-albanians have nothing to cheer about.
good bye kosovo, good bye kosovo from in the map hahahahha technical error?????????hahahahahha???????
btw kosovo is NOT legally part of serbia because serbia has no control or sovereignty over kosovo thus its ilegall for serbs to enter kosovo, kosovo has borders, government, constitution and laws so stop saying "kosovo is legally part of serbia" IT IS NOT stop lying to yourselfs like B92 is lying to their citizens about the "technical error" the correct map is still up there and will be up there until the end of time
Kosovo is gone, Tadic gave it up in negotiations with his German friends and they let him keep his job for a while longer by making it appear you're going to be allowed into the EU. Serbs had better face the fact that Kosovo has been taken from them by someone who can enforce the change. Of course it will end badly, as it always does in the Balkans, but never mind. The Germans (once again) think they have a solution. Soon you'll get loans you can't pay back and the EU will be overrun with Grateful Albanians spreading their "culture" far and wide. As an outsider I've assumed that Serbs wanted to survive. Lately I've had a look at your demographics. Since Serbs don't have children at a replacement rate it's obvious your fate it sealed. Time to integrate into more successful cultures, so maybe the EU isn't a bad deal for you after all. Time to learn German and English well and quit looking at the past which is the answer when you have no future.
(Frank, 6 March 2012 21:42)
Listen Frank,
You are by no means a modern day Nostradamus so stop speaking like one.
My Grandfather spent 11 years in Germany, 6 years in a concentration camp & 5 years in a displaced persons camp. He refused to learn German ;)
Time for us to integrate into more 'successful' cultures? Well I'm curious to know what success means for you? Most people think you measure success by finding happiness. Do you live in German? Do the robots look happy to you? Are the people friendly and cheery? They don't look to happy to me and they openly state at an official level that multiculturalism does NOT work. This makes it a little difficult to integrate wouldn't you say?
Sorry to burst your bubble but I think i'd prefer to remain happy and enjoy the life in Serbia & feel the friendliness and communal spirit in the air, than procreate in a robotic-like environment.
1. Serbia is now a EU candidate country, once it becomes an EU member, it will be without Kosovo.
2. "Kosovo under UN Security Council Resolution 1244" is listed as a potential candidate.
Note: It's not Kosovo* here (only UNSCR1244 and not UDI/ICJ).
But that's the correct wording, too because the Kosovo* name agreement is only valid for regional conferences where Kosovo* participates, and not meant for international/European usage.
to all those albanian "experts": nothing was given up! you shouldn´t fall for your wishful thinking, boys.
and don´t you even dare to think that you will get away with that cheapish behaviour!
the US won´t be there for all times to protect your little freak creation on serbian territory. keep that in mind, when you start writing big-mouth-comments next time...
your time is limited. we are just waiting, and we will be ready when the time has come.
this is no threat, but a forecast... ´cause, you know... I´m not an Albanian.
Somehow interesting that for Cyprus, the whole island is considered a member of the EU. But: "However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended. "
I wonder if it will this be valid for Kosovo, too? Kosovo, as the area in which government of Serbia doesn't exercise effective control?
Peggy, I have not claimed Kosova is historically Albanian have I? Nor do I know Anglo-Saxons claiming that the US is Anglo-Saxon historically. Same for Australia. understand what you're reading next time you wish to take me to task. p.s. my point still stands and is proven HISTORICALLY.
It doesn´t matter what some online-maps in the internet are showing, ...the one and only thing that really counts is international law. ...and taking this into account, the K-albanians have nothing to cheer about.
and that is good.
(Jovan, 7 March 2012 02:21)
Jovan,
The online map reflects the position of the EU, NATO, UN, USA, Japan, etc. If these international organizations and countries see Kosova as independent then your opinion is irrelevant. Why would Serbia wish to join the EU and NATO when they ignore the tantrums of your little Serbia. Serbia should get used to being marginalized if they wish to play with the big boys. Why has you big sister Russia been so quiet lately now that she got what she wanted from Serbia. Serbia sold their oil industry at Nish on the cheap to Russia with nothing to show for it. It must sting to be seduced and abandoned by your Slavic Orthodox brothers.
Peggy, I have not claimed Kosova is historically Albanian have I? Nor do I know Anglo-Saxons claiming that the US is Anglo-Saxon historically. Same for Australia. understand what you're reading next time you wish to take me to task. p.s. my point still stands and is proven HISTORICALLY.
(Nikolle, 8 March 2012 00:07)
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Really? What happened to the Illyrian myth of being the only humans in that part of the world?
Ok, let's say you don't claim it. Then how do you claim Kosovo to belong to Albanians?
to that albanian kid who´s displaying his inferiority complex with his nick-name: dear Tom King, sooner or later you will see that it is quite relevant what we Serbs think about it.
this is no threat, as I have written it before, it´s a promise. and you K-albanians should start thinking about what you will do, when Uncle Sam lets you down...
you know, others before you also thought they are smart, ...and ended with empty hands.
How do i claim Kosovo belongs to Albanians? I don't, it belongs to those who live there and since 9/10 of those who live there happen to be Albanian the argument is laid to bed. as for the Illyrian thing, even if either proposition is true (Albanian, not Albanian) it has no relevance today. it really isn't hard to grasp what i'm writing Peggy. if you want to bring history into this, Kosova doesn't belong to either Serbs or Albanians since neither had dominion over it longer than others
Why Jovan, what is it that you're going to do, Carry on what Sloba couldn't finish? Funny what your ilk has been reduced to (p.s. I do not mean all Serbs, only the mad raving nationalists like Jovan), issuing threats on the internet.
Serbia needs to take a bigger stance on this whole Kosovo situation. If a country has not accepted a piece of land to be independent, that is something to go to war over. Its illegal and i do not under stand it.
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