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Serbia should join NATO, party leader says

Alliance of Vojvodina Hungarians (SVM) Ištvan Pastor has assessed that Serbia should stop being military neutral and join NATO.

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Jovan

pre 12 godina

@this comedian who calls himself the count of ... disneyland?

...listen, boy.

there can be no talk about the US of America "allowing" Serbia to enter this criminal enterprize that they call "NATO"... they would give a lot for Serbia joining this NORTH ATLANTIC treaty organisation ( what have they lost in south-eastern europe, actually? )

so start using your brain and stop writing comments on that oh so funny level....

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Listen up Serbs! You are ALL pathetic! Look at how your loser politicians want to enter .. [blah blah blah blah]
(USA United States of Albania, 5 March 2012 22:17)

LOL what kind of loser Albanian trolls on a Serbian site writing this in hopes of trying to make a point? You really believe your childish ranting and raving is going to change people's minds? You're an angry little kid with far too much time on his hands. Go outside and play :)

The Count of Kosova

pre 12 godina

I doubt very much the USA would allow Serbia to Join NATO. Judging by what Serb nationalists on this site say about the USA, I can't blame the Americans for keeping Serbia out of NATO and hence out of the EU. Remember, all East European countries have had to join NATO in order to get into the EU.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

Listen up Serbs! You are ALL pathetic! Look at how your loser politicians want to enter into an alliance with the very same group that bombed you and beat you out of your "motherland" Kosova! I cannot stop laughing! Your politicians are a reflection of whats important to Serbians today which is "everyone for themselves as long as I make a buck". Your people have no boundries when it comes to sinking low. How can you people even look at yourselves in the mirror and be proud? Exactly what the Albanians have had since 1999 is exactly what Serbia is now begging for....NATO alliance and acceptance into Europe. Serbia will always be a tribe with many tribes....theres no such thing as "Serbian unity". Just look at history if you don't believe me. Serbs always sell their own out. Be proud Albanians. You've all been through so much, but you've persevered but you would NEVER sell your people out. Only communist Russians do that which is what Serbs are.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

This comment will help explain why the Serbian Constitution says that Serbia must not have any Military Alliance, and must not join NATO, and Serbia’s Politicians should obey the Constitution.

We all know that Britain and America made an arrangement with Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union on how to divide Continental Europe up between them after the Second World War.

History shows us the map of Continental Europe after the Second World War, but Britain and America could not let the Soviet Union include Yugoslavia, or any part of Yugoslavia that allowed land access the Adriatic Sea.

This is because that would have been considered by Britain and America as giving far too much advantage to the Soviet Union, and Stalin was in no position to change matters, because Britain and America did the clever thing as far as they were concerned and betrayed Draza Mihailovic and the Serbian People, and made Croat Tito a pretend Communist and Yugoslavia a Neutral Country.

Tito was able to be friendly with both East and West, and this made the People of Yugoslavia prosperous, and this prosperity enabled Tito to work against Serbian interests with a Weak Serbia Strong Yugoslavia Deception.

This is why Britain and America had to recreate Yugoslavia, and this was guaranteed by Tito, but was uncertain with Draza Mihailovic if he would have just created a country of the Serbian People that included Kosovo and Montenegro, and that had access to the Adriatic Sea, and that allowed Russian land access to the Adriatic Sea.

This is the main reason why the British and Americans who have never been the friends of the Serbian People, helped Tito to recreate Yugoslavia.

Of Course, this arrangement was only valid for as long as the Soviet Union existed, but after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Britain, America, France and Germany did not need Yugoslavia any longer, and so they engineered the break up of Yugoslavia, because Russia could not gain access to the Adriatic Sea, and probably does not need it, or even want it after the end of the Cold War.

Tito was in reality a Secret Puppet of Anglo-America, because they put Tito in charge of Yugoslavia, and Tito knew that they could remove him at any anytime he stopped being Anglo-America’s Puppet, regardless of any deceptive rhetoric.

The Fact that Tito was a Secret Puppet of Anglo-America, meant that Tito would have installed Secret Puppets of Anglo-America among the Serbs, while the other Ethnicities have always wanted to be Puppets of Anglo-America and Germany.

We now know that the Serbian Society of Influential People has been infiltrated during the Tito years, and this was replaced with the Anglo-America and European Union years after 1999.

The SPS did prevent Tadic and Company from making Vojvodina a State within a State that was ready for Independence from Serbia.

The SPS has made Vojvodina Independence more difficult and delayed any independence for Vojvodina, which is the Bread Basket of Serbia, but we know that Foreigners want Vojvodina to become an Independent Country.

The Serbian People must not be complacent with Vojvodina, because they only need to look at Montenegro, and if Vojvodina does become Independent, then Vojvodina will join NATO to further break up Serbia, because Anglo-America is the Master of the divide and rule tactic.

We know that the Third Reich Serbian Puppet Prime Minister Dragisa Cvetkovic created an Independent WW 2 Croatia, and that he left Serbia in September 1944 for Bulgaria, because of Tito and the Partisans, and he then went to Turkey.

On September 25, 2009, under the Prime Ministership of Cvetkovic, the regional court in Cvetkovic’s hometown of Nis rehabilitated the Third Reich Puppet Prime Minister Dragisa Cvetkovic from charges laid against him by the Tito Anti-Serb Puppet Government in 1945.

However, the current Puppet Cvetkovic Government have not cleared Draza Mihailovic of the obvious slander and against him, because they have not rehabilitated Draza Mihailovic, who was a genuine Serbian Hero and Patriot, and this speaks Volumes of them as Tito’s successors.

The Serbian People should demand that the good reputation of Draza Mihailovic, be restored before the next Election, because if the Puppets and Traitors win the next Election, then they will have to wait until the Patriots become the Government.

Many People should write to the Puppet Serbian Government that should be Cunning enough to make this grudging concession of rehabilitating Draza Mihailovic.

This is because the Gullible will think of them as Patriots, because the more Gullible People there are, the Gullible Voters there are, and that is what the is wanted and needed by the Puppets.

truthiness

pre 12 godina

This "politican" forgets the illegal acts committed against Serbia and the Serbian people, NAZI-like tactics were used by NATO (an organization that SHOULDN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE). Do you understand now, or is it too much to ask for you to take a peep outside your box?
(no non-sense, 5 March 2012 00:57)

yes..............and moving on now - back to the point - what exaclty did this man say that was so hateful and against his own people???

please answer the question without your exagerated misinterpretation of of said statements and facts.

Please quote the sentence or statement for us. Becuase we love to see how you hypernats make things up as you go along.

no non-sense

pre 12 godina

this guy should go and see a doctor...
(Jovan, 4 March 2012 23:26)
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Recommend (+4)Poor comment (0)What's thisThis man should be charged for treason and for preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples'.
(no non-sense, 4 March 2012 19:29)

I have just read the article - where exactly in that article was there "preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples" ?

All he did was express a differant point of view. No where did he vilify or make derogaroty or hateful remarks about anyone?

I suggest you hypernationalists actually read and think before go on and twist differant ideas into exagerated falsehoods and lies. But perhaps that is too much to ask.
(truthiness)
-

This "politican" forgets the illegal acts committed against Serbia and the Serbian people, NAZI-like tactics were used by NATO (an organization that SHOULDN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE). Do you understand now, or is it too much to ask for you to take a peep outside your box?

truthiness

pre 12 godina

This man should be charged for treason and for preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples'.
(no non-sense, 4 March 2012 19:29)

I have just read the article - where exactly in that article was there "preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples" ?

All he did was express a differant point of view. No where did he vilify or make derogaroty or hateful remarks about anyone?

I suggest you hypernationalists actually read and think before go on and twist differant ideas into exagerated falsehoods and lies. But perhaps that is too much to ask.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

"According to him, the step would greatly increase the country’s ability to attract capital since it was a well-known fact that investors are interested in stable and safe countries."

Austria and Switzerland - economically and politically stable and not in NATO

Albania and Montenegro - economically and politically unstable and in NATO

His point?

PEN

pre 12 godina

Yes why not complete independence Istvan, or perhaps union with Hungary. It always amazes me how these disgruntled nationalists are never satisfied with their lot. If you don't like living in Serbia, because that's what Vojvodina is a part of Serbia, then you can always re-locate to your beloved mother country. Nobody's stopping you. Whichever party forms the new government in Belgrade should make it a priority to impress upon the Hungarians or any other agitators, that they really need to shut up and get on with what they've got. The age of secession in the Balkans, violent or otherwise, is gone.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"According to him, the step would greatly increase the country’s ability to attract capital since it was a well-known fact that investors are interested in stable and safe countries."

Sure, but where's the connection to be a NATO member? A stable state is a state with reliable and reasonable political parties which are not extremists. Somehow funny that a member of the Hungarian minority talks about stability in the shade of the situation in the current Hungarian government.

I consider Serbia a stable state, more stable than Greece and Hungary, for example.

Robert1899

pre 12 godina

Mr. Pastor,Albania is a member of NATO, I don't see foreign investors pounding down their doors to invest in a "stable" Albania. Also Serbia was the only former socialist country to get bombed by NATO, so I believe Serbia is excused from manditory NATO membership in order to join the EU.

zman

pre 12 godina

curious.

he's not a SERB.. He is an ethnic hungarian and hungarians have been calling for indepedence in the most northern small part of Vojvodina for a long time.. He is a clueless idiot that needs to be dumped but the weaklings running belgrade are running the same type of appeasment policy that TITO ran that ultimately destroyed Serbs in Kosovo..

Now Vojvodina is 70% + percent Serbs and it will be almost 90% Serbs in a two decades or so meaning that the Hunagarian clowns will disapear..

moris

pre 12 godina

This guy is nuts.
Hungarians are not a majority there anymore !
Why are all these minorities talking non sense.
Bosniaks, roumanians, albanians now hungarians.
If they are not happy in serbia they just go back home where they ones belonged.

Predrag

pre 12 godina

This clown is blowing hot air!
The party (SVM)won 7% of votes in Vojvodina
And has 4 seats (out of 250) in the Serbian parliament.

In other words, they are totally irrelevant!
Just another minority group jumping up and down trying to get attention!

Perhaps Serbia should do what the albanians are doing and deny the existence of all ethnic minorities in its territory?

Curious

pre 12 godina

Are you serbs kidding joining NATO? for real the same guys who bombed you, the same people who are repressing serbs in Kosove, the same people who bombed the Bosnian Serbs, the same people who helped the croats kill and invict the serbs, the same people who watched the albanians kill and invict serbs.don't understand couldn't see any other nation accepting that what has happened to you guys?????

Predrag

pre 12 godina

This clown is blowing hot air!
The party (SVM)won 7% of votes in Vojvodina
And has 4 seats (out of 250) in the Serbian parliament.

In other words, they are totally irrelevant!
Just another minority group jumping up and down trying to get attention!

Perhaps Serbia should do what the albanians are doing and deny the existence of all ethnic minorities in its territory?

Curious

pre 12 godina

Are you serbs kidding joining NATO? for real the same guys who bombed you, the same people who are repressing serbs in Kosove, the same people who bombed the Bosnian Serbs, the same people who helped the croats kill and invict the serbs, the same people who watched the albanians kill and invict serbs.don't understand couldn't see any other nation accepting that what has happened to you guys?????

Robert1899

pre 12 godina

Mr. Pastor,Albania is a member of NATO, I don't see foreign investors pounding down their doors to invest in a "stable" Albania. Also Serbia was the only former socialist country to get bombed by NATO, so I believe Serbia is excused from manditory NATO membership in order to join the EU.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"According to him, the step would greatly increase the country’s ability to attract capital since it was a well-known fact that investors are interested in stable and safe countries."

Sure, but where's the connection to be a NATO member? A stable state is a state with reliable and reasonable political parties which are not extremists. Somehow funny that a member of the Hungarian minority talks about stability in the shade of the situation in the current Hungarian government.

I consider Serbia a stable state, more stable than Greece and Hungary, for example.

moris

pre 12 godina

This guy is nuts.
Hungarians are not a majority there anymore !
Why are all these minorities talking non sense.
Bosniaks, roumanians, albanians now hungarians.
If they are not happy in serbia they just go back home where they ones belonged.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

"According to him, the step would greatly increase the country’s ability to attract capital since it was a well-known fact that investors are interested in stable and safe countries."

Austria and Switzerland - economically and politically stable and not in NATO

Albania and Montenegro - economically and politically unstable and in NATO

His point?

zman

pre 12 godina

curious.

he's not a SERB.. He is an ethnic hungarian and hungarians have been calling for indepedence in the most northern small part of Vojvodina for a long time.. He is a clueless idiot that needs to be dumped but the weaklings running belgrade are running the same type of appeasment policy that TITO ran that ultimately destroyed Serbs in Kosovo..

Now Vojvodina is 70% + percent Serbs and it will be almost 90% Serbs in a two decades or so meaning that the Hunagarian clowns will disapear..

PEN

pre 12 godina

Yes why not complete independence Istvan, or perhaps union with Hungary. It always amazes me how these disgruntled nationalists are never satisfied with their lot. If you don't like living in Serbia, because that's what Vojvodina is a part of Serbia, then you can always re-locate to your beloved mother country. Nobody's stopping you. Whichever party forms the new government in Belgrade should make it a priority to impress upon the Hungarians or any other agitators, that they really need to shut up and get on with what they've got. The age of secession in the Balkans, violent or otherwise, is gone.

truthiness

pre 12 godina

This man should be charged for treason and for preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples'.
(no non-sense, 4 March 2012 19:29)

I have just read the article - where exactly in that article was there "preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples" ?

All he did was express a differant point of view. No where did he vilify or make derogaroty or hateful remarks about anyone?

I suggest you hypernationalists actually read and think before go on and twist differant ideas into exagerated falsehoods and lies. But perhaps that is too much to ask.

truthiness

pre 12 godina

This "politican" forgets the illegal acts committed against Serbia and the Serbian people, NAZI-like tactics were used by NATO (an organization that SHOULDN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE). Do you understand now, or is it too much to ask for you to take a peep outside your box?
(no non-sense, 5 March 2012 00:57)

yes..............and moving on now - back to the point - what exaclty did this man say that was so hateful and against his own people???

please answer the question without your exagerated misinterpretation of of said statements and facts.

Please quote the sentence or statement for us. Becuase we love to see how you hypernats make things up as you go along.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

Listen up Serbs! You are ALL pathetic! Look at how your loser politicians want to enter into an alliance with the very same group that bombed you and beat you out of your "motherland" Kosova! I cannot stop laughing! Your politicians are a reflection of whats important to Serbians today which is "everyone for themselves as long as I make a buck". Your people have no boundries when it comes to sinking low. How can you people even look at yourselves in the mirror and be proud? Exactly what the Albanians have had since 1999 is exactly what Serbia is now begging for....NATO alliance and acceptance into Europe. Serbia will always be a tribe with many tribes....theres no such thing as "Serbian unity". Just look at history if you don't believe me. Serbs always sell their own out. Be proud Albanians. You've all been through so much, but you've persevered but you would NEVER sell your people out. Only communist Russians do that which is what Serbs are.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

This comment will help explain why the Serbian Constitution says that Serbia must not have any Military Alliance, and must not join NATO, and Serbia’s Politicians should obey the Constitution.

We all know that Britain and America made an arrangement with Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union on how to divide Continental Europe up between them after the Second World War.

History shows us the map of Continental Europe after the Second World War, but Britain and America could not let the Soviet Union include Yugoslavia, or any part of Yugoslavia that allowed land access the Adriatic Sea.

This is because that would have been considered by Britain and America as giving far too much advantage to the Soviet Union, and Stalin was in no position to change matters, because Britain and America did the clever thing as far as they were concerned and betrayed Draza Mihailovic and the Serbian People, and made Croat Tito a pretend Communist and Yugoslavia a Neutral Country.

Tito was able to be friendly with both East and West, and this made the People of Yugoslavia prosperous, and this prosperity enabled Tito to work against Serbian interests with a Weak Serbia Strong Yugoslavia Deception.

This is why Britain and America had to recreate Yugoslavia, and this was guaranteed by Tito, but was uncertain with Draza Mihailovic if he would have just created a country of the Serbian People that included Kosovo and Montenegro, and that had access to the Adriatic Sea, and that allowed Russian land access to the Adriatic Sea.

This is the main reason why the British and Americans who have never been the friends of the Serbian People, helped Tito to recreate Yugoslavia.

Of Course, this arrangement was only valid for as long as the Soviet Union existed, but after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Britain, America, France and Germany did not need Yugoslavia any longer, and so they engineered the break up of Yugoslavia, because Russia could not gain access to the Adriatic Sea, and probably does not need it, or even want it after the end of the Cold War.

Tito was in reality a Secret Puppet of Anglo-America, because they put Tito in charge of Yugoslavia, and Tito knew that they could remove him at any anytime he stopped being Anglo-America’s Puppet, regardless of any deceptive rhetoric.

The Fact that Tito was a Secret Puppet of Anglo-America, meant that Tito would have installed Secret Puppets of Anglo-America among the Serbs, while the other Ethnicities have always wanted to be Puppets of Anglo-America and Germany.

We now know that the Serbian Society of Influential People has been infiltrated during the Tito years, and this was replaced with the Anglo-America and European Union years after 1999.

The SPS did prevent Tadic and Company from making Vojvodina a State within a State that was ready for Independence from Serbia.

The SPS has made Vojvodina Independence more difficult and delayed any independence for Vojvodina, which is the Bread Basket of Serbia, but we know that Foreigners want Vojvodina to become an Independent Country.

The Serbian People must not be complacent with Vojvodina, because they only need to look at Montenegro, and if Vojvodina does become Independent, then Vojvodina will join NATO to further break up Serbia, because Anglo-America is the Master of the divide and rule tactic.

We know that the Third Reich Serbian Puppet Prime Minister Dragisa Cvetkovic created an Independent WW 2 Croatia, and that he left Serbia in September 1944 for Bulgaria, because of Tito and the Partisans, and he then went to Turkey.

On September 25, 2009, under the Prime Ministership of Cvetkovic, the regional court in Cvetkovic’s hometown of Nis rehabilitated the Third Reich Puppet Prime Minister Dragisa Cvetkovic from charges laid against him by the Tito Anti-Serb Puppet Government in 1945.

However, the current Puppet Cvetkovic Government have not cleared Draza Mihailovic of the obvious slander and against him, because they have not rehabilitated Draza Mihailovic, who was a genuine Serbian Hero and Patriot, and this speaks Volumes of them as Tito’s successors.

The Serbian People should demand that the good reputation of Draza Mihailovic, be restored before the next Election, because if the Puppets and Traitors win the next Election, then they will have to wait until the Patriots become the Government.

Many People should write to the Puppet Serbian Government that should be Cunning enough to make this grudging concession of rehabilitating Draza Mihailovic.

This is because the Gullible will think of them as Patriots, because the more Gullible People there are, the Gullible Voters there are, and that is what the is wanted and needed by the Puppets.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

@this comedian who calls himself the count of ... disneyland?

...listen, boy.

there can be no talk about the US of America "allowing" Serbia to enter this criminal enterprize that they call "NATO"... they would give a lot for Serbia joining this NORTH ATLANTIC treaty organisation ( what have they lost in south-eastern europe, actually? )

so start using your brain and stop writing comments on that oh so funny level....

no non-sense

pre 12 godina

this guy should go and see a doctor...
(Jovan, 4 March 2012 23:26)
# Comment link

Recommend (+4)Poor comment (0)What's thisThis man should be charged for treason and for preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples'.
(no non-sense, 4 March 2012 19:29)

I have just read the article - where exactly in that article was there "preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples" ?

All he did was express a differant point of view. No where did he vilify or make derogaroty or hateful remarks about anyone?

I suggest you hypernationalists actually read and think before go on and twist differant ideas into exagerated falsehoods and lies. But perhaps that is too much to ask.
(truthiness)
-

This "politican" forgets the illegal acts committed against Serbia and the Serbian people, NAZI-like tactics were used by NATO (an organization that SHOULDN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE). Do you understand now, or is it too much to ask for you to take a peep outside your box?

The Count of Kosova

pre 12 godina

I doubt very much the USA would allow Serbia to Join NATO. Judging by what Serb nationalists on this site say about the USA, I can't blame the Americans for keeping Serbia out of NATO and hence out of the EU. Remember, all East European countries have had to join NATO in order to get into the EU.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Listen up Serbs! You are ALL pathetic! Look at how your loser politicians want to enter .. [blah blah blah blah]
(USA United States of Albania, 5 March 2012 22:17)

LOL what kind of loser Albanian trolls on a Serbian site writing this in hopes of trying to make a point? You really believe your childish ranting and raving is going to change people's minds? You're an angry little kid with far too much time on his hands. Go outside and play :)

truthiness

pre 12 godina

This man should be charged for treason and for preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples'.
(no non-sense, 4 March 2012 19:29)

I have just read the article - where exactly in that article was there "preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples" ?

All he did was express a differant point of view. No where did he vilify or make derogaroty or hateful remarks about anyone?

I suggest you hypernationalists actually read and think before go on and twist differant ideas into exagerated falsehoods and lies. But perhaps that is too much to ask.

Curious

pre 12 godina

Are you serbs kidding joining NATO? for real the same guys who bombed you, the same people who are repressing serbs in Kosove, the same people who bombed the Bosnian Serbs, the same people who helped the croats kill and invict the serbs, the same people who watched the albanians kill and invict serbs.don't understand couldn't see any other nation accepting that what has happened to you guys?????

Predrag

pre 12 godina

This clown is blowing hot air!
The party (SVM)won 7% of votes in Vojvodina
And has 4 seats (out of 250) in the Serbian parliament.

In other words, they are totally irrelevant!
Just another minority group jumping up and down trying to get attention!

Perhaps Serbia should do what the albanians are doing and deny the existence of all ethnic minorities in its territory?

zman

pre 12 godina

curious.

he's not a SERB.. He is an ethnic hungarian and hungarians have been calling for indepedence in the most northern small part of Vojvodina for a long time.. He is a clueless idiot that needs to be dumped but the weaklings running belgrade are running the same type of appeasment policy that TITO ran that ultimately destroyed Serbs in Kosovo..

Now Vojvodina is 70% + percent Serbs and it will be almost 90% Serbs in a two decades or so meaning that the Hunagarian clowns will disapear..

no non-sense

pre 12 godina

this guy should go and see a doctor...
(Jovan, 4 March 2012 23:26)
# Comment link

Recommend (+4)Poor comment (0)What's thisThis man should be charged for treason and for preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples'.
(no non-sense, 4 March 2012 19:29)

I have just read the article - where exactly in that article was there "preaching hate towards his nation and her peoples" ?

All he did was express a differant point of view. No where did he vilify or make derogaroty or hateful remarks about anyone?

I suggest you hypernationalists actually read and think before go on and twist differant ideas into exagerated falsehoods and lies. But perhaps that is too much to ask.
(truthiness)
-

This "politican" forgets the illegal acts committed against Serbia and the Serbian people, NAZI-like tactics were used by NATO (an organization that SHOULDN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE). Do you understand now, or is it too much to ask for you to take a peep outside your box?

moris

pre 12 godina

This guy is nuts.
Hungarians are not a majority there anymore !
Why are all these minorities talking non sense.
Bosniaks, roumanians, albanians now hungarians.
If they are not happy in serbia they just go back home where they ones belonged.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"According to him, the step would greatly increase the country’s ability to attract capital since it was a well-known fact that investors are interested in stable and safe countries."

Sure, but where's the connection to be a NATO member? A stable state is a state with reliable and reasonable political parties which are not extremists. Somehow funny that a member of the Hungarian minority talks about stability in the shade of the situation in the current Hungarian government.

I consider Serbia a stable state, more stable than Greece and Hungary, for example.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

This comment will help explain why the Serbian Constitution says that Serbia must not have any Military Alliance, and must not join NATO, and Serbia’s Politicians should obey the Constitution.

We all know that Britain and America made an arrangement with Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union on how to divide Continental Europe up between them after the Second World War.

History shows us the map of Continental Europe after the Second World War, but Britain and America could not let the Soviet Union include Yugoslavia, or any part of Yugoslavia that allowed land access the Adriatic Sea.

This is because that would have been considered by Britain and America as giving far too much advantage to the Soviet Union, and Stalin was in no position to change matters, because Britain and America did the clever thing as far as they were concerned and betrayed Draza Mihailovic and the Serbian People, and made Croat Tito a pretend Communist and Yugoslavia a Neutral Country.

Tito was able to be friendly with both East and West, and this made the People of Yugoslavia prosperous, and this prosperity enabled Tito to work against Serbian interests with a Weak Serbia Strong Yugoslavia Deception.

This is why Britain and America had to recreate Yugoslavia, and this was guaranteed by Tito, but was uncertain with Draza Mihailovic if he would have just created a country of the Serbian People that included Kosovo and Montenegro, and that had access to the Adriatic Sea, and that allowed Russian land access to the Adriatic Sea.

This is the main reason why the British and Americans who have never been the friends of the Serbian People, helped Tito to recreate Yugoslavia.

Of Course, this arrangement was only valid for as long as the Soviet Union existed, but after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Britain, America, France and Germany did not need Yugoslavia any longer, and so they engineered the break up of Yugoslavia, because Russia could not gain access to the Adriatic Sea, and probably does not need it, or even want it after the end of the Cold War.

Tito was in reality a Secret Puppet of Anglo-America, because they put Tito in charge of Yugoslavia, and Tito knew that they could remove him at any anytime he stopped being Anglo-America’s Puppet, regardless of any deceptive rhetoric.

The Fact that Tito was a Secret Puppet of Anglo-America, meant that Tito would have installed Secret Puppets of Anglo-America among the Serbs, while the other Ethnicities have always wanted to be Puppets of Anglo-America and Germany.

We now know that the Serbian Society of Influential People has been infiltrated during the Tito years, and this was replaced with the Anglo-America and European Union years after 1999.

The SPS did prevent Tadic and Company from making Vojvodina a State within a State that was ready for Independence from Serbia.

The SPS has made Vojvodina Independence more difficult and delayed any independence for Vojvodina, which is the Bread Basket of Serbia, but we know that Foreigners want Vojvodina to become an Independent Country.

The Serbian People must not be complacent with Vojvodina, because they only need to look at Montenegro, and if Vojvodina does become Independent, then Vojvodina will join NATO to further break up Serbia, because Anglo-America is the Master of the divide and rule tactic.

We know that the Third Reich Serbian Puppet Prime Minister Dragisa Cvetkovic created an Independent WW 2 Croatia, and that he left Serbia in September 1944 for Bulgaria, because of Tito and the Partisans, and he then went to Turkey.

On September 25, 2009, under the Prime Ministership of Cvetkovic, the regional court in Cvetkovic’s hometown of Nis rehabilitated the Third Reich Puppet Prime Minister Dragisa Cvetkovic from charges laid against him by the Tito Anti-Serb Puppet Government in 1945.

However, the current Puppet Cvetkovic Government have not cleared Draza Mihailovic of the obvious slander and against him, because they have not rehabilitated Draza Mihailovic, who was a genuine Serbian Hero and Patriot, and this speaks Volumes of them as Tito’s successors.

The Serbian People should demand that the good reputation of Draza Mihailovic, be restored before the next Election, because if the Puppets and Traitors win the next Election, then they will have to wait until the Patriots become the Government.

Many People should write to the Puppet Serbian Government that should be Cunning enough to make this grudging concession of rehabilitating Draza Mihailovic.

This is because the Gullible will think of them as Patriots, because the more Gullible People there are, the Gullible Voters there are, and that is what the is wanted and needed by the Puppets.

Robert1899

pre 12 godina

Mr. Pastor,Albania is a member of NATO, I don't see foreign investors pounding down their doors to invest in a "stable" Albania. Also Serbia was the only former socialist country to get bombed by NATO, so I believe Serbia is excused from manditory NATO membership in order to join the EU.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

Listen up Serbs! You are ALL pathetic! Look at how your loser politicians want to enter into an alliance with the very same group that bombed you and beat you out of your "motherland" Kosova! I cannot stop laughing! Your politicians are a reflection of whats important to Serbians today which is "everyone for themselves as long as I make a buck". Your people have no boundries when it comes to sinking low. How can you people even look at yourselves in the mirror and be proud? Exactly what the Albanians have had since 1999 is exactly what Serbia is now begging for....NATO alliance and acceptance into Europe. Serbia will always be a tribe with many tribes....theres no such thing as "Serbian unity". Just look at history if you don't believe me. Serbs always sell their own out. Be proud Albanians. You've all been through so much, but you've persevered but you would NEVER sell your people out. Only communist Russians do that which is what Serbs are.

PEN

pre 12 godina

Yes why not complete independence Istvan, or perhaps union with Hungary. It always amazes me how these disgruntled nationalists are never satisfied with their lot. If you don't like living in Serbia, because that's what Vojvodina is a part of Serbia, then you can always re-locate to your beloved mother country. Nobody's stopping you. Whichever party forms the new government in Belgrade should make it a priority to impress upon the Hungarians or any other agitators, that they really need to shut up and get on with what they've got. The age of secession in the Balkans, violent or otherwise, is gone.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

"According to him, the step would greatly increase the country’s ability to attract capital since it was a well-known fact that investors are interested in stable and safe countries."

Austria and Switzerland - economically and politically stable and not in NATO

Albania and Montenegro - economically and politically unstable and in NATO

His point?

The Count of Kosova

pre 12 godina

I doubt very much the USA would allow Serbia to Join NATO. Judging by what Serb nationalists on this site say about the USA, I can't blame the Americans for keeping Serbia out of NATO and hence out of the EU. Remember, all East European countries have had to join NATO in order to get into the EU.

truthiness

pre 12 godina

This "politican" forgets the illegal acts committed against Serbia and the Serbian people, NAZI-like tactics were used by NATO (an organization that SHOULDN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE). Do you understand now, or is it too much to ask for you to take a peep outside your box?
(no non-sense, 5 March 2012 00:57)

yes..............and moving on now - back to the point - what exaclty did this man say that was so hateful and against his own people???

please answer the question without your exagerated misinterpretation of of said statements and facts.

Please quote the sentence or statement for us. Becuase we love to see how you hypernats make things up as you go along.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Listen up Serbs! You are ALL pathetic! Look at how your loser politicians want to enter .. [blah blah blah blah]
(USA United States of Albania, 5 March 2012 22:17)

LOL what kind of loser Albanian trolls on a Serbian site writing this in hopes of trying to make a point? You really believe your childish ranting and raving is going to change people's minds? You're an angry little kid with far too much time on his hands. Go outside and play :)

Jovan

pre 12 godina

@this comedian who calls himself the count of ... disneyland?

...listen, boy.

there can be no talk about the US of America "allowing" Serbia to enter this criminal enterprize that they call "NATO"... they would give a lot for Serbia joining this NORTH ATLANTIC treaty organisation ( what have they lost in south-eastern europe, actually? )

so start using your brain and stop writing comments on that oh so funny level....