Dutch oppose Romania, Bulgaria’s Schengen entry

Netherlands is very disturbed by corruption and many other bad things. But they are not disturbed by drugs and prostitution which flourished in their country.

This is not very European...but it's a clear signal of how things are going in Eu lately..

ako ako. Methinks the Dutch have been a little too abusive to the Balkans for over a decade, especially RS, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and even Croatia.

In a few years when everyone is on equal footing it'll be payback time, for the 4 million Dutch by the 40 million people wthat they were treating as a sub-human class.

@Observer

It is well know that prostitution and the use of drugs are not criminalized in Netherlands. the living standards do not stand in front of some principles. I am against these "practices" and against those who allow such horrors. They can use their wealth to educate and save women rather than push them in the hands of .... But no! Netherlands is interested to get more money from "sex" and "drugs" tourism. What a shame. And how high their morale standards are... And they want to teach us (Romanians) how to behave.
Now you may say anything bad about gipsies, "poor" and corrupt Romanians and so on. I don't care. I am a Romanian and I love my country. Yeah, I'm proud of that. I will never go to live in other country. I also respect the other countries and other nations. But I don't agree with the policy of the government from Haga.
The fact is this: Romanians are orthodox Christians who follow the way of God. I don't want to live under Haga's instructions.

I think that Romania and Bulgaria will join the Schengen Area in 2012.

Paul, just because you say or think that doesn't make it true. Do you really think if your assumptions were true, NL would be one of the very richest countries in the world? Check the Corruptions Perceptions Index, Drug abuse statistics or whatever. You will see that NL is one of the top performing countries in every aspect.
Those invented babla-assumptions are really bad for Serbia, because it lowers the ability for orientation and development.

Paul, you have a good balanced view. Dutchies tend to get ahead of themselves sometimes.

Keep it real ;)

to Paul: Only because you criminalise something does not mean that it is not happening. Think about the time of prohibition in the US. The result was a) people died because of self-made alcohol (methanol) b) mafia structures spread through the country c) people who were alcoholics (sickness) and those who wanted to enjoy their cultural haritage became criminalised. A by far higher percentage dies from alcohol than from weed, but nobody cares, because alcohol is something "traditional".
If you criminalise prostitution it simply goes underground: diseases spread faster and more, women are more often confronted with violent men, you get more criminal structures, human trafficking cannot be fought that easily and so on. An example for a huge, illegal prostitution sector, with many diseases, mafia structures and human trafficking is actually Romania. No offence, but that's a fact. Don't get me wrong, I like Romania, Bucharest is beautiful and so on. But prostitution comes with poverty, with inequality, unemployment, bad social systems and so on. As long as you have some extremly rich people and some who earn 2€ an hour you will have prositution. If you have no education, barely something to eat and you can get the same amount of money in one hour instead of a week or two, you will have prostitution. Sad but true. And the argument of "moral" is not valid in this case if you endanger those victims of the society even more. A way is maybe the Swedih model. They don't fine the prostitutes but the costumers....

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mobile-euthanasia-units-go-on-the-road-to-make-house-calls-20120302-1u7y3.html

I think that Romania and Bulgaria will join the Schengen Area in 2012.

Paul, just because you say or think that doesn't make it true. Do you really think if your assumptions were true, NL would be one of the very richest countries in the world? Check the Corruptions Perceptions Index, Drug abuse statistics or whatever. You will see that NL is one of the top performing countries in every aspect.
Those invented babla-assumptions are really bad for Serbia, because it lowers the ability for orientation and development.

This is not very European...but it's a clear signal of how things are going in Eu lately..

@Observer

It is well know that prostitution and the use of drugs are not criminalized in Netherlands. the living standards do not stand in front of some principles. I am against these "practices" and against those who allow such horrors. They can use their wealth to educate and save women rather than push them in the hands of .... But no! Netherlands is interested to get more money from "sex" and "drugs" tourism. What a shame. And how high their morale standards are... And they want to teach us (Romanians) how to behave.
Now you may say anything bad about gipsies, "poor" and corrupt Romanians and so on. I don't care. I am a Romanian and I love my country. Yeah, I'm proud of that. I will never go to live in other country. I also respect the other countries and other nations. But I don't agree with the policy of the government from Haga.
The fact is this: Romanians are orthodox Christians who follow the way of God. I don't want to live under Haga's instructions.

Netherlands is very disturbed by corruption and many other bad things. But they are not disturbed by drugs and prostitution which flourished in their country.

ako ako. Methinks the Dutch have been a little too abusive to the Balkans for over a decade, especially RS, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and even Croatia.

In a few years when everyone is on equal footing it'll be payback time, for the 4 million Dutch by the 40 million people wthat they were treating as a sub-human class.

Paul, you have a good balanced view. Dutchies tend to get ahead of themselves sometimes.

Keep it real ;)

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mobile-euthanasia-units-go-on-the-road-to-make-house-calls-20120302-1u7y3.html

to Paul: Only because you criminalise something does not mean that it is not happening. Think about the time of prohibition in the US. The result was a) people died because of self-made alcohol (methanol) b) mafia structures spread through the country c) people who were alcoholics (sickness) and those who wanted to enjoy their cultural haritage became criminalised. A by far higher percentage dies from alcohol than from weed, but nobody cares, because alcohol is something "traditional".
If you criminalise prostitution it simply goes underground: diseases spread faster and more, women are more often confronted with violent men, you get more criminal structures, human trafficking cannot be fought that easily and so on. An example for a huge, illegal prostitution sector, with many diseases, mafia structures and human trafficking is actually Romania. No offence, but that's a fact. Don't get me wrong, I like Romania, Bucharest is beautiful and so on. But prostitution comes with poverty, with inequality, unemployment, bad social systems and so on. As long as you have some extremly rich people and some who earn 2€ an hour you will have prositution. If you have no education, barely something to eat and you can get the same amount of money in one hour instead of a week or two, you will have prostitution. Sad but true. And the argument of "moral" is not valid in this case if you endanger those victims of the society even more. A way is maybe the Swedih model. They don't fine the prostitutes but the costumers....