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Tuesday, 28.02.2012.

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Visas to be abolished for Kosovo - "if conditions are met"

Austrian Foreign Minister Michael Spindelegger said on Tuesday that his country backs the abolishment of visas for the people of Kosovo.

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robert1899

pre 12 godina

No Danilo believe me, THEY HATE ALBANIANS! I have been all over Europe and North America and have rarely heard any positive comments regarding albanians.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"Germany and other E.U. countries are trying to justify an independent "kosovo" in order to have somewhere to deport their illegal and criminal albanian residence"

Always interesting to see the kind of mental gymnastics Serbs engage in order to deflect from the basic truth that Albanians in what was formerly the south of Serbia, for good reason, want nothing to do with Serbia and that most of the world either doesn't care or supports Kosovar Albanians in their understandable endeavor.

I mean, it CAN'T POSSIBLY be that Germany supports the self-determination of a population because that's the right thing to do.

no. surely it MUST be BECAUSE THEY HATE ALBANIANS!

amazing. Once again, we learn that the whole world revolves around Serbia and its issues.

Astounding narcissism.

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

The 5 countries that don't bend over for NATO/EU bullying will problably some time in the coming 5 years be armtwisted into accepctping Kosovo on the Schengen white list, but signing SAA agreement?? never, to do that one has to recognize Kosovo, and that as WE all know is a totally different thing.

However I suspect that IF Kosovo joins white schengen list (wich they won't do anytime soon) it will be revoked very fast, 10s of thousands of asylum seekers that wants to escape "kosova prison black hole" is going to flood Germany, Sweden, Holland and other countries known for their generous wellfare to asylum seekers.

Look at candidate country Turkey, they are in Nato, they are praised by the US (same as albanians) and they are nowere near having visa free travel to EU.

Robert1899

pre 12 godina

Visa free, are you kidding? Germany and other E.U. countries are trying to justify an independent "kosovo" in order to have somewhere to deport their illegal and criminal albanian residence. Why would they establish a visa free regime?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

To KAlbanians - don't deny Serbia's statehood over Kosovo - and will get visa-free EU-access immediately as Serbian citizens do.
(aaayyy, 28 February 2012 18:18)

They already do. They usually carry around 3 or 4 passports with them in case one of them isn't recognized in customs. Lots of Albanians go embassies in Belgrade to get Serbian passports. They're not stupid enough to take their chances with a "Kosova" passport if their intended destination comes with a one-way ticket :)

Johnny

pre 12 godina

"He pointed out, however, that some other preconditions still remain to be fulfilled..."


Some preconditions! Yeah right! How about an entire phonebook of preconditions. Poor Kosovo. A state to albanians but legaly Kosovo is anything but a state. know of no other "country" that is dependent entirely on aid like Kosovo. When it comes to corruption Kosovo is in a league of its own. The only way K-albs will improve their standard of living is if they move to Somalia or Afghanistan.
(MikeC, 28 February 2012 17:58)
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I don't know man but judging from the articles on B92 and blic you have perfectly described Serbia.

Jimbo

pre 12 godina

"How can be given visa free status if not all the Shengen countries have recognized Kosovo ?!!?? or something is going to happen sooner ???"

Fewer countries (only 23) recognize Taiwan as a separate country than Kosovo. Yet every country in the world accepts a Taiwanese passport.
(Danilo, 28 February 2012 19:52)

You are right Danilo. 155 countries recognize RKS passport, including China which is a UNSC permanent member.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"It is a paradox that town-countries like Cyprus think they can dictate EU."
===============================

This is exactly what I read from your own people. So many times I have read a comment from an Albanian here saying that once in EU "Kosova" is going to be able to demand this or that of Serbia.
How about all the threats of NATO assault on Serbia because Albania is in NATO?
Now you think one country cannot do anything. You're a clown.

Amer

pre 12 godina

The Five have a choice: either find some way to sign off on the feasibility study and then the SAA, then candidacy, or refuse and leave Kosovo to go its own way. But when the time comes (5-10 years?) for Serbia to apply for membership, the Five + Serbia will be faced with 18-20 vetoes because one "province" of Serbia does not meet the requirements. The non-prejudicial-to-status" formulation seems to be their best way forward, for the time being. (If Serbia hadn't insisted on that asterisk, this solution wouldn't be so readily available: Prishtina may want another monument, to Boris and Borislav. Not right away, probably.)

miri

pre 12 godina

As for Priština's wish to sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU, Spindelegger underlined that "a legal opinion is required for something like that, given that five EU member states have not recognized Kosovo's independence".

This is ridiculous. There are 22 countries that do not recognize Serbia in the shape and form that those 5 do, and there are 22 countries that recognize Kosova in the shape and form that those 5 do not.

Kosova will get schengen visa soon. I does make no sense that the recognition by those 5 countries will be an obstacle for schengen visa for Kosova. Serbia considers Kosova within its own borders but Serb citizens living in Kosova don't have the privilege of visa-free travel. From the other hand K-passport is accepted in all EU countries including those 5 that do not recognize K.

These are just empty words, there is much more that just saying these 5 will stop the train running.

exKFOR

pre 12 godina

Austrian leftists must have gone bananas? those genocidal islamists failed miserably already earlier - UN set "Standards before the status" quest - do not expect they will even be able to come to terms with the most lenient conditions set up for them. unless it is not living off european taxpayers money or, drug, prostitution, internal organs business...be sure that with that they would be fulfilling those plans 100 times...lol

Kosovoexpat

pre 12 godina

EA, you immediatley start to Blame Serbia. Whats up with that? You sound childish "force Serbia to recognize Kosovo" Listen brother it will never happen, they are an independent country, how are you planning on making Serbia recognize Kosovo? Invade and start having children so that Albanians will be the majority in 20 years? You sound like a little child in the neighborhood that takes his ball back because none of the other kids want to play with him.....Grow the hell up.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"How can be given visa free status if not all the Shengen countries have recognized Kosovo ?!!?? or something is going to happen sooner ???"

Fewer countries (only 23) recognize Taiwan as a separate country than Kosovo. Yet every country in the world accepts a Taiwanese passport.

luigi

pre 12 godina

How can be given visa free status if not all the Shengen countries have recognized Kosovo ?!!?? or something is going to happen sooner ???

robert1899

pre 12 godina

As for Priština's wish to sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU, Spindelegger underlined that "a legal opinion is required for something like that, given that five EU member states have not recognized Kosovo's independence".

No EU for you!

EA

pre 12 godina

"a legal opinion is required for something like that, given that five EU member states have not recognized Kosovo's independence".

We all know which are these countries. These are the weakest links of EU. Serbia needs to be taken accountable and there should be no EU for Serbia until it is forced to recognise officially Kosovo independence.

It is a paradox that town-countries like Cyprus think they can dictate EU.

If Kosovo is not allowed to follow the democratic processes because of these weakest links then there no option but officially Albanians wherewever they are take ownership of their joint future....

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"This is why it is difficult to conclude the agreement between the EU and Kosovo," the Austrian foreign minister said, announcing that the European Commission would be requested to draft a feasibility study.

Why difficult? Why not simply make agreements between EU and Kosovo*

*=without prejudice to status blabla..

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"He pointed out, however, that some other preconditions still remain to be fulfilled..."


Some preconditions! Yeah right! How about an entire phonebook of preconditions. Poor Kosovo. A state to albanians but legaly Kosovo is anything but a state. know of no other "country" that is dependent entirely on aid like Kosovo. When it comes to corruption Kosovo is in a league of its own. The only way K-albs will improve their standard of living is if they move to Somalia or Afghanistan.

Kosovoexpat

pre 12 godina

EA, you immediatley start to Blame Serbia. Whats up with that? You sound childish "force Serbia to recognize Kosovo" Listen brother it will never happen, they are an independent country, how are you planning on making Serbia recognize Kosovo? Invade and start having children so that Albanians will be the majority in 20 years? You sound like a little child in the neighborhood that takes his ball back because none of the other kids want to play with him.....Grow the hell up.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"He pointed out, however, that some other preconditions still remain to be fulfilled..."


Some preconditions! Yeah right! How about an entire phonebook of preconditions. Poor Kosovo. A state to albanians but legaly Kosovo is anything but a state. know of no other "country" that is dependent entirely on aid like Kosovo. When it comes to corruption Kosovo is in a league of its own. The only way K-albs will improve their standard of living is if they move to Somalia or Afghanistan.

luigi

pre 12 godina

How can be given visa free status if not all the Shengen countries have recognized Kosovo ?!!?? or something is going to happen sooner ???

robert1899

pre 12 godina

As for Priština's wish to sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU, Spindelegger underlined that "a legal opinion is required for something like that, given that five EU member states have not recognized Kosovo's independence".

No EU for you!

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"It is a paradox that town-countries like Cyprus think they can dictate EU."
===============================

This is exactly what I read from your own people. So many times I have read a comment from an Albanian here saying that once in EU "Kosova" is going to be able to demand this or that of Serbia.
How about all the threats of NATO assault on Serbia because Albania is in NATO?
Now you think one country cannot do anything. You're a clown.

exKFOR

pre 12 godina

Austrian leftists must have gone bananas? those genocidal islamists failed miserably already earlier - UN set "Standards before the status" quest - do not expect they will even be able to come to terms with the most lenient conditions set up for them. unless it is not living off european taxpayers money or, drug, prostitution, internal organs business...be sure that with that they would be fulfilling those plans 100 times...lol

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"How can be given visa free status if not all the Shengen countries have recognized Kosovo ?!!?? or something is going to happen sooner ???"

Fewer countries (only 23) recognize Taiwan as a separate country than Kosovo. Yet every country in the world accepts a Taiwanese passport.

EA

pre 12 godina

"a legal opinion is required for something like that, given that five EU member states have not recognized Kosovo's independence".

We all know which are these countries. These are the weakest links of EU. Serbia needs to be taken accountable and there should be no EU for Serbia until it is forced to recognise officially Kosovo independence.

It is a paradox that town-countries like Cyprus think they can dictate EU.

If Kosovo is not allowed to follow the democratic processes because of these weakest links then there no option but officially Albanians wherewever they are take ownership of their joint future....

miri

pre 12 godina

As for Priština's wish to sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU, Spindelegger underlined that "a legal opinion is required for something like that, given that five EU member states have not recognized Kosovo's independence".

This is ridiculous. There are 22 countries that do not recognize Serbia in the shape and form that those 5 do, and there are 22 countries that recognize Kosova in the shape and form that those 5 do not.

Kosova will get schengen visa soon. I does make no sense that the recognition by those 5 countries will be an obstacle for schengen visa for Kosova. Serbia considers Kosova within its own borders but Serb citizens living in Kosova don't have the privilege of visa-free travel. From the other hand K-passport is accepted in all EU countries including those 5 that do not recognize K.

These are just empty words, there is much more that just saying these 5 will stop the train running.

Amer

pre 12 godina

The Five have a choice: either find some way to sign off on the feasibility study and then the SAA, then candidacy, or refuse and leave Kosovo to go its own way. But when the time comes (5-10 years?) for Serbia to apply for membership, the Five + Serbia will be faced with 18-20 vetoes because one "province" of Serbia does not meet the requirements. The non-prejudicial-to-status" formulation seems to be their best way forward, for the time being. (If Serbia hadn't insisted on that asterisk, this solution wouldn't be so readily available: Prishtina may want another monument, to Boris and Borislav. Not right away, probably.)

Jimbo

pre 12 godina

"How can be given visa free status if not all the Shengen countries have recognized Kosovo ?!!?? or something is going to happen sooner ???"

Fewer countries (only 23) recognize Taiwan as a separate country than Kosovo. Yet every country in the world accepts a Taiwanese passport.
(Danilo, 28 February 2012 19:52)

You are right Danilo. 155 countries recognize RKS passport, including China which is a UNSC permanent member.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"This is why it is difficult to conclude the agreement between the EU and Kosovo," the Austrian foreign minister said, announcing that the European Commission would be requested to draft a feasibility study.

Why difficult? Why not simply make agreements between EU and Kosovo*

*=without prejudice to status blabla..

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

The 5 countries that don't bend over for NATO/EU bullying will problably some time in the coming 5 years be armtwisted into accepctping Kosovo on the Schengen white list, but signing SAA agreement?? never, to do that one has to recognize Kosovo, and that as WE all know is a totally different thing.

However I suspect that IF Kosovo joins white schengen list (wich they won't do anytime soon) it will be revoked very fast, 10s of thousands of asylum seekers that wants to escape "kosova prison black hole" is going to flood Germany, Sweden, Holland and other countries known for their generous wellfare to asylum seekers.

Look at candidate country Turkey, they are in Nato, they are praised by the US (same as albanians) and they are nowere near having visa free travel to EU.

Johnny

pre 12 godina

"He pointed out, however, that some other preconditions still remain to be fulfilled..."


Some preconditions! Yeah right! How about an entire phonebook of preconditions. Poor Kosovo. A state to albanians but legaly Kosovo is anything but a state. know of no other "country" that is dependent entirely on aid like Kosovo. When it comes to corruption Kosovo is in a league of its own. The only way K-albs will improve their standard of living is if they move to Somalia or Afghanistan.
(MikeC, 28 February 2012 17:58)
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I don't know man but judging from the articles on B92 and blic you have perfectly described Serbia.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

To KAlbanians - don't deny Serbia's statehood over Kosovo - and will get visa-free EU-access immediately as Serbian citizens do.
(aaayyy, 28 February 2012 18:18)

They already do. They usually carry around 3 or 4 passports with them in case one of them isn't recognized in customs. Lots of Albanians go embassies in Belgrade to get Serbian passports. They're not stupid enough to take their chances with a "Kosova" passport if their intended destination comes with a one-way ticket :)

Robert1899

pre 12 godina

Visa free, are you kidding? Germany and other E.U. countries are trying to justify an independent "kosovo" in order to have somewhere to deport their illegal and criminal albanian residence. Why would they establish a visa free regime?

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"Germany and other E.U. countries are trying to justify an independent "kosovo" in order to have somewhere to deport their illegal and criminal albanian residence"

Always interesting to see the kind of mental gymnastics Serbs engage in order to deflect from the basic truth that Albanians in what was formerly the south of Serbia, for good reason, want nothing to do with Serbia and that most of the world either doesn't care or supports Kosovar Albanians in their understandable endeavor.

I mean, it CAN'T POSSIBLY be that Germany supports the self-determination of a population because that's the right thing to do.

no. surely it MUST be BECAUSE THEY HATE ALBANIANS!

amazing. Once again, we learn that the whole world revolves around Serbia and its issues.

Astounding narcissism.

robert1899

pre 12 godina

No Danilo believe me, THEY HATE ALBANIANS! I have been all over Europe and North America and have rarely heard any positive comments regarding albanians.

EA

pre 12 godina

"a legal opinion is required for something like that, given that five EU member states have not recognized Kosovo's independence".

We all know which are these countries. These are the weakest links of EU. Serbia needs to be taken accountable and there should be no EU for Serbia until it is forced to recognise officially Kosovo independence.

It is a paradox that town-countries like Cyprus think they can dictate EU.

If Kosovo is not allowed to follow the democratic processes because of these weakest links then there no option but officially Albanians wherewever they are take ownership of their joint future....

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"He pointed out, however, that some other preconditions still remain to be fulfilled..."


Some preconditions! Yeah right! How about an entire phonebook of preconditions. Poor Kosovo. A state to albanians but legaly Kosovo is anything but a state. know of no other "country" that is dependent entirely on aid like Kosovo. When it comes to corruption Kosovo is in a league of its own. The only way K-albs will improve their standard of living is if they move to Somalia or Afghanistan.

robert1899

pre 12 godina

As for Priština's wish to sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU, Spindelegger underlined that "a legal opinion is required for something like that, given that five EU member states have not recognized Kosovo's independence".

No EU for you!

miri

pre 12 godina

As for Priština's wish to sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU, Spindelegger underlined that "a legal opinion is required for something like that, given that five EU member states have not recognized Kosovo's independence".

This is ridiculous. There are 22 countries that do not recognize Serbia in the shape and form that those 5 do, and there are 22 countries that recognize Kosova in the shape and form that those 5 do not.

Kosova will get schengen visa soon. I does make no sense that the recognition by those 5 countries will be an obstacle for schengen visa for Kosova. Serbia considers Kosova within its own borders but Serb citizens living in Kosova don't have the privilege of visa-free travel. From the other hand K-passport is accepted in all EU countries including those 5 that do not recognize K.

These are just empty words, there is much more that just saying these 5 will stop the train running.

Kosovoexpat

pre 12 godina

EA, you immediatley start to Blame Serbia. Whats up with that? You sound childish "force Serbia to recognize Kosovo" Listen brother it will never happen, they are an independent country, how are you planning on making Serbia recognize Kosovo? Invade and start having children so that Albanians will be the majority in 20 years? You sound like a little child in the neighborhood that takes his ball back because none of the other kids want to play with him.....Grow the hell up.

exKFOR

pre 12 godina

Austrian leftists must have gone bananas? those genocidal islamists failed miserably already earlier - UN set "Standards before the status" quest - do not expect they will even be able to come to terms with the most lenient conditions set up for them. unless it is not living off european taxpayers money or, drug, prostitution, internal organs business...be sure that with that they would be fulfilling those plans 100 times...lol

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"This is why it is difficult to conclude the agreement between the EU and Kosovo," the Austrian foreign minister said, announcing that the European Commission would be requested to draft a feasibility study.

Why difficult? Why not simply make agreements between EU and Kosovo*

*=without prejudice to status blabla..

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"It is a paradox that town-countries like Cyprus think they can dictate EU."
===============================

This is exactly what I read from your own people. So many times I have read a comment from an Albanian here saying that once in EU "Kosova" is going to be able to demand this or that of Serbia.
How about all the threats of NATO assault on Serbia because Albania is in NATO?
Now you think one country cannot do anything. You're a clown.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"How can be given visa free status if not all the Shengen countries have recognized Kosovo ?!!?? or something is going to happen sooner ???"

Fewer countries (only 23) recognize Taiwan as a separate country than Kosovo. Yet every country in the world accepts a Taiwanese passport.

Amer

pre 12 godina

The Five have a choice: either find some way to sign off on the feasibility study and then the SAA, then candidacy, or refuse and leave Kosovo to go its own way. But when the time comes (5-10 years?) for Serbia to apply for membership, the Five + Serbia will be faced with 18-20 vetoes because one "province" of Serbia does not meet the requirements. The non-prejudicial-to-status" formulation seems to be their best way forward, for the time being. (If Serbia hadn't insisted on that asterisk, this solution wouldn't be so readily available: Prishtina may want another monument, to Boris and Borislav. Not right away, probably.)

Jimbo

pre 12 godina

"How can be given visa free status if not all the Shengen countries have recognized Kosovo ?!!?? or something is going to happen sooner ???"

Fewer countries (only 23) recognize Taiwan as a separate country than Kosovo. Yet every country in the world accepts a Taiwanese passport.
(Danilo, 28 February 2012 19:52)

You are right Danilo. 155 countries recognize RKS passport, including China which is a UNSC permanent member.

luigi

pre 12 godina

How can be given visa free status if not all the Shengen countries have recognized Kosovo ?!!?? or something is going to happen sooner ???

Johnny

pre 12 godina

"He pointed out, however, that some other preconditions still remain to be fulfilled..."


Some preconditions! Yeah right! How about an entire phonebook of preconditions. Poor Kosovo. A state to albanians but legaly Kosovo is anything but a state. know of no other "country" that is dependent entirely on aid like Kosovo. When it comes to corruption Kosovo is in a league of its own. The only way K-albs will improve their standard of living is if they move to Somalia or Afghanistan.
(MikeC, 28 February 2012 17:58)
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I don't know man but judging from the articles on B92 and blic you have perfectly described Serbia.

Robert1899

pre 12 godina

Visa free, are you kidding? Germany and other E.U. countries are trying to justify an independent "kosovo" in order to have somewhere to deport their illegal and criminal albanian residence. Why would they establish a visa free regime?

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

The 5 countries that don't bend over for NATO/EU bullying will problably some time in the coming 5 years be armtwisted into accepctping Kosovo on the Schengen white list, but signing SAA agreement?? never, to do that one has to recognize Kosovo, and that as WE all know is a totally different thing.

However I suspect that IF Kosovo joins white schengen list (wich they won't do anytime soon) it will be revoked very fast, 10s of thousands of asylum seekers that wants to escape "kosova prison black hole" is going to flood Germany, Sweden, Holland and other countries known for their generous wellfare to asylum seekers.

Look at candidate country Turkey, they are in Nato, they are praised by the US (same as albanians) and they are nowere near having visa free travel to EU.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

To KAlbanians - don't deny Serbia's statehood over Kosovo - and will get visa-free EU-access immediately as Serbian citizens do.
(aaayyy, 28 February 2012 18:18)

They already do. They usually carry around 3 or 4 passports with them in case one of them isn't recognized in customs. Lots of Albanians go embassies in Belgrade to get Serbian passports. They're not stupid enough to take their chances with a "Kosova" passport if their intended destination comes with a one-way ticket :)

robert1899

pre 12 godina

No Danilo believe me, THEY HATE ALBANIANS! I have been all over Europe and North America and have rarely heard any positive comments regarding albanians.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"Germany and other E.U. countries are trying to justify an independent "kosovo" in order to have somewhere to deport their illegal and criminal albanian residence"

Always interesting to see the kind of mental gymnastics Serbs engage in order to deflect from the basic truth that Albanians in what was formerly the south of Serbia, for good reason, want nothing to do with Serbia and that most of the world either doesn't care or supports Kosovar Albanians in their understandable endeavor.

I mean, it CAN'T POSSIBLY be that Germany supports the self-determination of a population because that's the right thing to do.

no. surely it MUST be BECAUSE THEY HATE ALBANIANS!

amazing. Once again, we learn that the whole world revolves around Serbia and its issues.

Astounding narcissism.