Kosovo PM expects agreement, "Serbia's recognition"

Is there any person in the world, that is more irritating than this man? I cannot believe that the US/EU allow this criminal, by their own admissions, represent a territory they are trying to build into an independent nation. God help us all from these modern day imperialists, that act with impunity around the world, changing governments and make ups of sovereign countries.

Never get High on your own supply Hashim.

To Hashim (nick your organs for a dollar) Thaci

You are no good as a comedian, I would say don't quit your job but you are no good at that either LOL!!

"It will accept Kosovo’s Declaration of Independence while (UN Security Council) Resolution 1244 is dead and it will remain dead,” he told Priština-based Albanian language daily Express. Thaci said after U.S. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns’ visit that an agreement was reached to represent Kosovo with a footnote that would contain the Declaration of Independence, opinion of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on the unilaterally declared independence and the UN Security Council Resolution 1244."

What a funny state, this Kosovo, to be represented with a footnote mentioning a 'dead resolution' . Maybe Thaci thought it suits well to the project of an independent and democratic Kosovo which is dead, too?

"You can shout bit of demagogy Thaci but the reality is that Kosova didn't need at all the talks let alone the "compromises". You fail to present Kosova as independent country, and that failure starts from not exerting full authority in your country and not having any authority in over 20% of your country."
(ben, 23 February 2012 14:56)

The reality is: Kosovo depends on its sponsors, the internationals. So they are forcing both parties (Pristina and Belgrade) into a dialogue. Kosovo with its non-economy and disputed limbo status is surely not a position of demanding anything, or to decide if talks and compromises are needed or not.
This "independence" only exists in wishful thinking of the Kosovo Albanians.

"Look at what the Kosovars have achieved despite being under the rule of Belgrade who had a powerful military and controlled Kosova with a tight fist. "
(USA United States of Albania, 23 February 2012 17:10)

The Kosovars achieved what? Better say thank you to NATO and, ironically, Milosevic and his politics, for what Kosovo is like today.

He is probably right - day by day his views and beliefs are becoming more aligned with serbian politics...anyday now he will be honoured by the serbian goverment with the suffix 'vic' with the additional benefit of being able to choose wether he wants to add it to his first name i.e. 'Hashimovic' or surname ' Thacovic'....first option sounds better i think

Sorry, Eugene, but when a thug acts as a statesman, it is grating to say the least. This guy belongs in a prison cell with the likes of Mladic, and not being quoted on B92.

USA United States of Albania

Why do you as an Albanian take credit for the USA's actions in Kosovo?

You Albos did nothing but cower from Serbia in Kosovo.

Anyways, thanks for being a troll!

So if it's dead why you agree to accept it???

Thaci it should be wise I reckon to list all the comprimises that Kosova has done. Start with:

- NO recognition and compensation for the innocent civilians killed
- NO unification with Albania. Why? if you are sovereign and independent, you can unify with Burundu if your people want that.
- Supervised independence
- NO Army
- NO contractual agreements with EU
- OK to 1244
- Total and peaceful loss of control over 20% of your territory and letting all the non-Serbs there living in terror (last case the Bosniak that was killed in north that was working for Kosova's institutions)
- Not even encouragement for the Albanian displaced people in north to go back at their homes for 12 years now
- Ban of Kosova's goods even to transit via Serbia
- Ban of the Serbia's air space for airplanes directed to Kosova
- Serbia insist oin 1244 saying Koosva is Serbian province you accept it but you are not able to impose "the relaity on the ground" that 1244is dead and Kosova is independent

You can shout bit of demagogy Thaci but the reality is that Kosova didn't need at all the talks let alone the "compromises". You fail to present Kosova as independent country, and that failure starts from not exerting full authority in your country and not having any authority in over 20% of your country.

To Hashim (stolen organs for sale) Thaci

If eventually all goes pear shaped for you in Prishtina,(and some day it will) you could always emigrate to the USA and become a janitor (toilet cleaner) you'd be much more suited to that job because you make one hell of a lousy politician!

Before you get too excited over nothing Serbs, just remember where Kosovar Albanians were 20 years ago and where they are now. Look at what the Kosovars have achieved despite being under the rule of Belgrade who had a powerful military and controlled Kosova with a tight fist. That strength is no longer apparent in Kosova. The Serbian military is long gone...they can't even step an inch into Kosova. Kosovar Albanians are actively being trained everyday for a new military. Kosova has a special police unit ROSU.

Don't think for one minute that all of that was accomplished by chance. The Kosovars had a plan and they followed through with it to expel Serbia from Kosova and to control the territory. Serbia plain and simple got beat. And with that said, I wouldn't be so confident that anything moving from today onward will benefit Serbia's positions or positions that they want. Just look at last summer for instance, where are the barricades? Serb politicians claimed that the barricades will not come down until things return back to the way that they were. Either they lied or they have no power to change the situation. Its one or the other. Either way... You can't look at where Kosovar's were with their struggle 30 years ago and where they are now and say "they didn't beat us".

Thaci you have said Serbia has recognized you many times already, so what is there to expect if you have it already?

You know its funny, people like Thaci and Djukanovic try to hard to separate from Serbia.......but Serbia is coming out of their mouths every 3 words...calm your obsession people..

we are pretty cool I know...but I wouldn't say that cool for our enemies to keep fantasizing about us :/

Is there any person in the world, that is more irritating than this man? I cannot believe that the US/EU allow this criminal, by their own admissions, represent a territory they are trying to build into an independent nation. God help us all from these modern day imperialists, that act with impunity around the world, changing governments and make ups of sovereign countries.
(PapaJohn, 23 February 2012 14:55)

Hold your horses PapaJohn.....take a deep breath...the spring is coming. I beg your pardon, but I see nothing irritating in Thaci's statement. Politics is a game after all....I don't agree with many of Serbian politicians' stand regarding Kosovo, but I'm cognizant of the fact that they have a job to do and their people and interest to defend. So does Thaci. What we are hearing as a possible solution for Kosovo's regional and international representation is realistic and a win-win situation.

According you to Serbs: if Kosovo, a province of Serbia, will send their own ministers to international meetings and organizations why can't Vojvodina do the same? I can't think of any person in Vojvodina being against represented as Republic of Vojvodina with a footnote: "Republic of Vojvodnia declared its independence in 2013 while Serbia adheres to Resolution 2092 which explicitly is status neutral taking no prejudgment on whether Vojvodina is a 'Serbian province' or an 'independent republic'".

Just food for thought.


Sincerely,

Yes Mustapha Belgrade will recognise you then open up its borders to allow your goat herders to move freely around Serbia looking for work so they can then support poverty Ville Kosovo.

Thaci is a beacon for the west; a thug, gangster and good all round criminal but he is supported by the freedom-loving democratic hugging west that pushed transparency and rule of law…..Gee even I start laughing now when I write this BS.

For the Albos that think this is true. No he is jerking your chain as every now and then out comes statements of this nature to sooth the locals. In fact you can actually set a timetable to these statements.

It usually starts off with the US, then one or two EU countries makes a statement then Thaci or one of his henchmen opens his mouth and so it goes on every couple of months. If you think I joking search B92’s archives.

Saying that allowing a footnote mentioning the UDI is not acceptable but allowing a footnote to the ICJ opinion that says the UDI neither violates international law nor 1244, makes no sense.

LOL this guy is so stupid I'm almost tempted to become a citizen of "Kosova" so I can continue to vote for him just to keep him in office. You can't call a resolution dead if it's part of footnote explaining what they're there.

And yeah, how many times has Serbia "recognized" Kosovo according to this guy? Nice try attempting to look good for the Self Determination people that are threatening to riot :)

Ok so Canadian Serb admits that K-Albanins where covering from Serbia do you need reason more than that to stop Serbia from prosecuting K_Albanin population.
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Yes we need more. The only reason you were cowering is because you were murdering Serbs there and you should be cowering for that.
For the Albanians who did not participate in KLA murders and terror there was no terror but once the war started there was terror everywhere. You would have to be mad not to feel terror when fighting is all around you. Serbs felt the terror also you know.

The reality is: Kosovo depends on its sponsors, the internationals. So they are forcing both parties (Pristina and Belgrade) into a dialogue. Kosovo with its non-economy and disputed limbo status is surely not a position of demanding anything, or to decide if talks and compromises are needed or not.
This "independence" only exists in wishful thinking of the Kosovo Albanians.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 February 2012 16:14)

You are almost completely correct.
- Kosovo does depend on its sponsors
- those sponsors are the internationals
- The internationals are holding all the cards and have forced both parties to negotiate (which they are able to do only because they have ultimate control over the situation).
- Kosovo is not in a position to demand anything

Where I disagree with you is in your statement that "this 'independence' only exists in wishful thinking of the Kosovo Albanians." Actually, this independence also exists in the recognitions of the international countries that you seem to agree have the power to make the decision.

Kosovo doesn't need to demand its independence, since the internationals have already made the choice. Now it is just a waiting game until everyone in Serbia knows the reality. Kosovo's leaders, Serbia's leaders, and all the international powers (including Russia) know that this will end with Kosovo being fully recognized and being part of the UN, EU, and other organizations in which it is handy to have membership. However, nobody can move too fast, or else it could destabilize Serbia, which is generally bad for Europe. So we all wait for everything to slowly play out...

USA United States of Albania

Why do you as an Albanian take credit for the USA's actions in Kosovo?

You Albos did nothing but cower from Serbia in Kosovo.

Anyways, thanks for being a troll!
(Another Canadian Serb, 23 February 2012 17:59)

Ok so Canadian Serb admits that K-Albanins where covering from Serbia do you need reason more than that to stop Serbia from prosecuting K_Albanin population.

There is you answer why Kosovo wont be going under Serbia they do not want people to be covering in Europe and have NATO slap you again.

@USA United States of Albania

True, while Serbia may not directly exert its power and sovereignty over Kosovo militarily anymore, I would not be so quick to discount the affects that political and economic strangulation will have on Kosovo. Best of all, this bullet-less approach does not cost Serbia even one tax dollar but it will cost the residents south of the Ibar everything. Enjoy the present netherworld known as "kosova" before emigration takes its toll decades and even centuries from know. The Turks know about Serbian resolve.

"Kosovo doesn't need to demand its independence, since the internationals have already made the choice. Now it is just a waiting game until everyone in Serbia knows the reality. Kosovo's leaders, Serbia's leaders, and all the international powers (including Russia) know that this will end with Kosovo being fully recognized and being part of the UN, EU, and other organizations in which it is handy to have membership. "
(Glenn, 23 February 2012 23:12)

Correct, some internationals have recognized Kosovo as independent, while some others did not. Yes, who knows, it would be natural if Kosovo ends like that, in some decades. Currently, I see Kosovo as a disputed territory, a frozen conflict, a self-proclaimed state. Like Cyprus (for more than 35 years), Taiwan/Republic of China (for more than 60 years), Palestine is another wannabe country for 60+ years, and so on. And I don't see why this should change in case of Kosovo, since both sides refuse to compromise and prefer to live in their illusions and wishful thinking (Kosovo is part/will always be part of Serbia/Kosovo is an independent, sovereign country with territorial integrity).

- Kosovo does depend on its sponsors

(Glenn, 23 February 2012 23:12)

Kosova does not depend on its sponsors. If it deos judged from the misry that is in Kosova then these sposors re the stingiest one can find.

In Baknans there is only 1 country fully dependent on its sponsors and 3 others partially. The fully depepdnet is Greece the other 3 in termas of yers and amount of donnations that they have received per capita are:
1. FYROM (22 years)
2. Serbia (12 years 6bn€)
3. Kosova (12 yars 1.5bn€)

it's time people start checking facts and not speak with prejudices.

Best of all, this bullet-less approach does not cost Serbia even one tax dollar
(nick, 24 February 2012 02:40)

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=08&dd=26&nav_id=76100

That money is only for the Serbian institutions in Kosovo. I fail to see your point.
(nick, 24 February 2012 12:31)

And that is your problem: That money is wasted on your brethren that are loyal only to their purse and that are holding both Kosovo and Serbia at ransom. "The affects that political and economic strangulation will have on Kosovo" are somehow constantly backfiring on Serbia and are costing you in many ways dearly.

"(not one but EUR 450mn, 24 February 2012 11:28)"

That money is only for the Serbian institutions in Kosovo. I fail to see your point.

- Kosovo does depend on its sponsors

(Glenn, 23 February 2012 23:12)

Kosova does not depend on its sponsors. If it deos judged from the misry that is in Kosova then these sposors re the stingiest one can find.

In Baknans there is only 1 country fully dependent on its sponsors and 3 others partially. The fully depepdnet is Greece the other 3 in termas of yers and amount of donnations that they have received per capita are:
1. FYROM (22 years)
2. Serbia (12 years 6bn€)
3. Kosova (12 yars 1.5bn€)

it's time people start checking facts and not speak with prejudices.
(ben, 24 February 2012 11:24)

Relax, Ben! If you read my posts, you will see that I am one of the most completely pro-Kosovo posters on this site. In fact, I love Kosovo and I have pretty much bet my life on Kosovo's future by moving everything (family, furniture, etc.) from the USA to live here. I started a non-profit technology/engineering training center here and have also started and am CEO of an electronics design and manufacturing company in Kosovo (which is half owned by me and half owned by a software company owned by Kosovo Albanians).

I was not saying that Kosovo was completely dependent upon its sponsors, nor was I necessarily referring to just financial support.

Kosovo does receive limited financial support from its sponsors, though not really all that much. In fact, when you think about how much it takes to rebuild a war-torn country, and how the funds have been spread over a number of years (and mostly wasted by internal spending on consultants and internationals' salaries within USAID, the EU, aid agencies and so on) a mere pittance has been spent on Kosovo.

Perhaps of more significance, Kosovo's international sponsors have been large supporters of independence. Kosovo is being given a chance to succeed on its own and to build a brighter future.

Relax, Ben! If you read my posts, you will see that I am one of the most completely pro-Kosovo posters on this site
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There you go Glen. It's proof positive that Albanians don't actually examine what is said but what is perceived and turn on you in a blink of an eye.
Continue being its biggest supporter. Don't forget to employ members of your family, oh yes, you already do by being in business with them.

Correct, some internationals have recognized Kosovo as independent, while some others did not. Yes, who knows, it would be natural if Kosovo ends like that, in some decades. Currently, I see Kosovo as a disputed territory, a frozen conflict, a self-proclaimed state. Like Cyprus (for more than 35 years), Taiwan/Republic of China (for more than 60 years), Palestine is another wannabe country for 60+ years, and so on. And I don't see why this should change in case of Kosovo, since both sides refuse to compromise and prefer to live in their illusions and wishful thinking (Kosovo is part/will always be part of Serbia/Kosovo is an independent, sovereign country with territorial integrity).
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 February 2012 10:30)

Kosovo does not need to compromise... It is independent from Serbia (disputed status or not is about formalities - does not change the fact that Serbia is not in charge in Kosovo), whereas Serbia will only accept something less than what Kosovo already has.

Is there any person in the world, that is more irritating than this man? I cannot believe that the US/EU allow this criminal, by their own admissions, represent a territory they are trying to build into an independent nation. God help us all from these modern day imperialists, that act with impunity around the world, changing governments and make ups of sovereign countries.

Before you get too excited over nothing Serbs, just remember where Kosovar Albanians were 20 years ago and where they are now. Look at what the Kosovars have achieved despite being under the rule of Belgrade who had a powerful military and controlled Kosova with a tight fist. That strength is no longer apparent in Kosova. The Serbian military is long gone...they can't even step an inch into Kosova. Kosovar Albanians are actively being trained everyday for a new military. Kosova has a special police unit ROSU.

Don't think for one minute that all of that was accomplished by chance. The Kosovars had a plan and they followed through with it to expel Serbia from Kosova and to control the territory. Serbia plain and simple got beat. And with that said, I wouldn't be so confident that anything moving from today onward will benefit Serbia's positions or positions that they want. Just look at last summer for instance, where are the barricades? Serb politicians claimed that the barricades will not come down until things return back to the way that they were. Either they lied or they have no power to change the situation. Its one or the other. Either way... You can't look at where Kosovar's were with their struggle 30 years ago and where they are now and say "they didn't beat us".

To Hashim (nick your organs for a dollar) Thaci

You are no good as a comedian, I would say don't quit your job but you are no good at that either LOL!!

According you to Serbs: if Kosovo, a province of Serbia, will send their own ministers to international meetings and organizations why can't Vojvodina do the same? I can't think of any person in Vojvodina being against represented as Republic of Vojvodina with a footnote: "Republic of Vojvodnia declared its independence in 2013 while Serbia adheres to Resolution 2092 which explicitly is status neutral taking no prejudgment on whether Vojvodina is a 'Serbian province' or an 'independent republic'".

Just food for thought.


Sincerely,

So if it's dead why you agree to accept it???

Thaci it should be wise I reckon to list all the comprimises that Kosova has done. Start with:

- NO recognition and compensation for the innocent civilians killed
- NO unification with Albania. Why? if you are sovereign and independent, you can unify with Burundu if your people want that.
- Supervised independence
- NO Army
- NO contractual agreements with EU
- OK to 1244
- Total and peaceful loss of control over 20% of your territory and letting all the non-Serbs there living in terror (last case the Bosniak that was killed in north that was working for Kosova's institutions)
- Not even encouragement for the Albanian displaced people in north to go back at their homes for 12 years now
- Ban of Kosova's goods even to transit via Serbia
- Ban of the Serbia's air space for airplanes directed to Kosova
- Serbia insist oin 1244 saying Koosva is Serbian province you accept it but you are not able to impose "the relaity on the ground" that 1244is dead and Kosova is independent

You can shout bit of demagogy Thaci but the reality is that Kosova didn't need at all the talks let alone the "compromises". You fail to present Kosova as independent country, and that failure starts from not exerting full authority in your country and not having any authority in over 20% of your country.

"It will accept Kosovo’s Declaration of Independence while (UN Security Council) Resolution 1244 is dead and it will remain dead,” he told Priština-based Albanian language daily Express. Thaci said after U.S. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns’ visit that an agreement was reached to represent Kosovo with a footnote that would contain the Declaration of Independence, opinion of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on the unilaterally declared independence and the UN Security Council Resolution 1244."

What a funny state, this Kosovo, to be represented with a footnote mentioning a 'dead resolution' . Maybe Thaci thought it suits well to the project of an independent and democratic Kosovo which is dead, too?

"You can shout bit of demagogy Thaci but the reality is that Kosova didn't need at all the talks let alone the "compromises". You fail to present Kosova as independent country, and that failure starts from not exerting full authority in your country and not having any authority in over 20% of your country."
(ben, 23 February 2012 14:56)

The reality is: Kosovo depends on its sponsors, the internationals. So they are forcing both parties (Pristina and Belgrade) into a dialogue. Kosovo with its non-economy and disputed limbo status is surely not a position of demanding anything, or to decide if talks and compromises are needed or not.
This "independence" only exists in wishful thinking of the Kosovo Albanians.

USA United States of Albania

Why do you as an Albanian take credit for the USA's actions in Kosovo?

You Albos did nothing but cower from Serbia in Kosovo.

Anyways, thanks for being a troll!

Is there any person in the world, that is more irritating than this man? I cannot believe that the US/EU allow this criminal, by their own admissions, represent a territory they are trying to build into an independent nation. God help us all from these modern day imperialists, that act with impunity around the world, changing governments and make ups of sovereign countries.
(PapaJohn, 23 February 2012 14:55)

Hold your horses PapaJohn.....take a deep breath...the spring is coming. I beg your pardon, but I see nothing irritating in Thaci's statement. Politics is a game after all....I don't agree with many of Serbian politicians' stand regarding Kosovo, but I'm cognizant of the fact that they have a job to do and their people and interest to defend. So does Thaci. What we are hearing as a possible solution for Kosovo's regional and international representation is realistic and a win-win situation.

Sorry, Eugene, but when a thug acts as a statesman, it is grating to say the least. This guy belongs in a prison cell with the likes of Mladic, and not being quoted on B92.

To Hashim (stolen organs for sale) Thaci

If eventually all goes pear shaped for you in Prishtina,(and some day it will) you could always emigrate to the USA and become a janitor (toilet cleaner) you'd be much more suited to that job because you make one hell of a lousy politician!

USA United States of Albania

Why do you as an Albanian take credit for the USA's actions in Kosovo?

You Albos did nothing but cower from Serbia in Kosovo.

Anyways, thanks for being a troll!
(Another Canadian Serb, 23 February 2012 17:59)

Ok so Canadian Serb admits that K-Albanins where covering from Serbia do you need reason more than that to stop Serbia from prosecuting K_Albanin population.

There is you answer why Kosovo wont be going under Serbia they do not want people to be covering in Europe and have NATO slap you again.

Never get High on your own supply Hashim.

"Look at what the Kosovars have achieved despite being under the rule of Belgrade who had a powerful military and controlled Kosova with a tight fist. "
(USA United States of Albania, 23 February 2012 17:10)

The Kosovars achieved what? Better say thank you to NATO and, ironically, Milosevic and his politics, for what Kosovo is like today.

Thaci you have said Serbia has recognized you many times already, so what is there to expect if you have it already?

You know its funny, people like Thaci and Djukanovic try to hard to separate from Serbia.......but Serbia is coming out of their mouths every 3 words...calm your obsession people..

we are pretty cool I know...but I wouldn't say that cool for our enemies to keep fantasizing about us :/

He is probably right - day by day his views and beliefs are becoming more aligned with serbian politics...anyday now he will be honoured by the serbian goverment with the suffix 'vic' with the additional benefit of being able to choose wether he wants to add it to his first name i.e. 'Hashimovic' or surname ' Thacovic'....first option sounds better i think

Saying that allowing a footnote mentioning the UDI is not acceptable but allowing a footnote to the ICJ opinion that says the UDI neither violates international law nor 1244, makes no sense.

The reality is: Kosovo depends on its sponsors, the internationals. So they are forcing both parties (Pristina and Belgrade) into a dialogue. Kosovo with its non-economy and disputed limbo status is surely not a position of demanding anything, or to decide if talks and compromises are needed or not.
This "independence" only exists in wishful thinking of the Kosovo Albanians.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 February 2012 16:14)

You are almost completely correct.
- Kosovo does depend on its sponsors
- those sponsors are the internationals
- The internationals are holding all the cards and have forced both parties to negotiate (which they are able to do only because they have ultimate control over the situation).
- Kosovo is not in a position to demand anything

Where I disagree with you is in your statement that "this 'independence' only exists in wishful thinking of the Kosovo Albanians." Actually, this independence also exists in the recognitions of the international countries that you seem to agree have the power to make the decision.

Kosovo doesn't need to demand its independence, since the internationals have already made the choice. Now it is just a waiting game until everyone in Serbia knows the reality. Kosovo's leaders, Serbia's leaders, and all the international powers (including Russia) know that this will end with Kosovo being fully recognized and being part of the UN, EU, and other organizations in which it is handy to have membership. However, nobody can move too fast, or else it could destabilize Serbia, which is generally bad for Europe. So we all wait for everything to slowly play out...

Ok so Canadian Serb admits that K-Albanins where covering from Serbia do you need reason more than that to stop Serbia from prosecuting K_Albanin population.
==================

Yes we need more. The only reason you were cowering is because you were murdering Serbs there and you should be cowering for that.
For the Albanians who did not participate in KLA murders and terror there was no terror but once the war started there was terror everywhere. You would have to be mad not to feel terror when fighting is all around you. Serbs felt the terror also you know.

LOL this guy is so stupid I'm almost tempted to become a citizen of "Kosova" so I can continue to vote for him just to keep him in office. You can't call a resolution dead if it's part of footnote explaining what they're there.

And yeah, how many times has Serbia "recognized" Kosovo according to this guy? Nice try attempting to look good for the Self Determination people that are threatening to riot :)

Yes Mustapha Belgrade will recognise you then open up its borders to allow your goat herders to move freely around Serbia looking for work so they can then support poverty Ville Kosovo.

Thaci is a beacon for the west; a thug, gangster and good all round criminal but he is supported by the freedom-loving democratic hugging west that pushed transparency and rule of law…..Gee even I start laughing now when I write this BS.

For the Albos that think this is true. No he is jerking your chain as every now and then out comes statements of this nature to sooth the locals. In fact you can actually set a timetable to these statements.

It usually starts off with the US, then one or two EU countries makes a statement then Thaci or one of his henchmen opens his mouth and so it goes on every couple of months. If you think I joking search B92’s archives.

@USA United States of Albania

True, while Serbia may not directly exert its power and sovereignty over Kosovo militarily anymore, I would not be so quick to discount the affects that political and economic strangulation will have on Kosovo. Best of all, this bullet-less approach does not cost Serbia even one tax dollar but it will cost the residents south of the Ibar everything. Enjoy the present netherworld known as "kosova" before emigration takes its toll decades and even centuries from know. The Turks know about Serbian resolve.

"Kosovo doesn't need to demand its independence, since the internationals have already made the choice. Now it is just a waiting game until everyone in Serbia knows the reality. Kosovo's leaders, Serbia's leaders, and all the international powers (including Russia) know that this will end with Kosovo being fully recognized and being part of the UN, EU, and other organizations in which it is handy to have membership. "
(Glenn, 23 February 2012 23:12)

Correct, some internationals have recognized Kosovo as independent, while some others did not. Yes, who knows, it would be natural if Kosovo ends like that, in some decades. Currently, I see Kosovo as a disputed territory, a frozen conflict, a self-proclaimed state. Like Cyprus (for more than 35 years), Taiwan/Republic of China (for more than 60 years), Palestine is another wannabe country for 60+ years, and so on. And I don't see why this should change in case of Kosovo, since both sides refuse to compromise and prefer to live in their illusions and wishful thinking (Kosovo is part/will always be part of Serbia/Kosovo is an independent, sovereign country with territorial integrity).

- Kosovo does depend on its sponsors

(Glenn, 23 February 2012 23:12)

Kosova does not depend on its sponsors. If it deos judged from the misry that is in Kosova then these sposors re the stingiest one can find.

In Baknans there is only 1 country fully dependent on its sponsors and 3 others partially. The fully depepdnet is Greece the other 3 in termas of yers and amount of donnations that they have received per capita are:
1. FYROM (22 years)
2. Serbia (12 years 6bn€)
3. Kosova (12 yars 1.5bn€)

it's time people start checking facts and not speak with prejudices.

Best of all, this bullet-less approach does not cost Serbia even one tax dollar
(nick, 24 February 2012 02:40)

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=08&dd=26&nav_id=76100

"(not one but EUR 450mn, 24 February 2012 11:28)"

That money is only for the Serbian institutions in Kosovo. I fail to see your point.

That money is only for the Serbian institutions in Kosovo. I fail to see your point.
(nick, 24 February 2012 12:31)

And that is your problem: That money is wasted on your brethren that are loyal only to their purse and that are holding both Kosovo and Serbia at ransom. "The affects that political and economic strangulation will have on Kosovo" are somehow constantly backfiring on Serbia and are costing you in many ways dearly.

- Kosovo does depend on its sponsors

(Glenn, 23 February 2012 23:12)

Kosova does not depend on its sponsors. If it deos judged from the misry that is in Kosova then these sposors re the stingiest one can find.

In Baknans there is only 1 country fully dependent on its sponsors and 3 others partially. The fully depepdnet is Greece the other 3 in termas of yers and amount of donnations that they have received per capita are:
1. FYROM (22 years)
2. Serbia (12 years 6bn€)
3. Kosova (12 yars 1.5bn€)

it's time people start checking facts and not speak with prejudices.
(ben, 24 February 2012 11:24)

Relax, Ben! If you read my posts, you will see that I am one of the most completely pro-Kosovo posters on this site. In fact, I love Kosovo and I have pretty much bet my life on Kosovo's future by moving everything (family, furniture, etc.) from the USA to live here. I started a non-profit technology/engineering training center here and have also started and am CEO of an electronics design and manufacturing company in Kosovo (which is half owned by me and half owned by a software company owned by Kosovo Albanians).

I was not saying that Kosovo was completely dependent upon its sponsors, nor was I necessarily referring to just financial support.

Kosovo does receive limited financial support from its sponsors, though not really all that much. In fact, when you think about how much it takes to rebuild a war-torn country, and how the funds have been spread over a number of years (and mostly wasted by internal spending on consultants and internationals' salaries within USAID, the EU, aid agencies and so on) a mere pittance has been spent on Kosovo.

Perhaps of more significance, Kosovo's international sponsors have been large supporters of independence. Kosovo is being given a chance to succeed on its own and to build a brighter future.

Relax, Ben! If you read my posts, you will see that I am one of the most completely pro-Kosovo posters on this site
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There you go Glen. It's proof positive that Albanians don't actually examine what is said but what is perceived and turn on you in a blink of an eye.
Continue being its biggest supporter. Don't forget to employ members of your family, oh yes, you already do by being in business with them.

Correct, some internationals have recognized Kosovo as independent, while some others did not. Yes, who knows, it would be natural if Kosovo ends like that, in some decades. Currently, I see Kosovo as a disputed territory, a frozen conflict, a self-proclaimed state. Like Cyprus (for more than 35 years), Taiwan/Republic of China (for more than 60 years), Palestine is another wannabe country for 60+ years, and so on. And I don't see why this should change in case of Kosovo, since both sides refuse to compromise and prefer to live in their illusions and wishful thinking (Kosovo is part/will always be part of Serbia/Kosovo is an independent, sovereign country with territorial integrity).
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 February 2012 10:30)

Kosovo does not need to compromise... It is independent from Serbia (disputed status or not is about formalities - does not change the fact that Serbia is not in charge in Kosovo), whereas Serbia will only accept something less than what Kosovo already has.